Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- Acid Reflux
- Adrenal Fatigue
- Alzheimer's and Parkinson's
- Antibacterial, Antifungal
- Athlete's Foot
- Back Pain
- Bathing: Caution on Slippery Oil
- Belch, Smelly
- Bladder Infections
- Blood Pressure
- Body Temperature, Menstruation
- Canker Sores
- Cheap Coconut Oil Sources
- Chronic Fatigue
- Chronic Sinusitis
- Coconut Oil
- Coconut Oil Alternatives
- Coconut Oil and Hair Dye
- Coconut Oil and the Liver
- Coconut Oil Application Tips
- Coconut Oil Caveats
- Coconut Oil Ointment
- Coconut Oil Recipes
- Coconut Sugar
- Digestive Issues
- Dry Skin
- Energy Booster
- Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
- Fat Stripper
- Gallbladder Pain
- General Feedback
- Genital Warts
- Gum Disease
- Gum in Hair
- Hair Loss
- Head Congestion
- Heart Health
- How to Take Internally
- Ingrown Toenail
- Itchy Skin
- Make Your Own Coconut Oil
- Meningitis, Encephalitis
- Mite Infestation
- Mouth Issues
- Multiple Cures
- Oil Pulling
- Organic Vs. Regular
- Perioral Dermatitis
- Primary Complex (Tb of the Lungs)
- Rancid Coconut Oil
- Refined Vs. Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
- Saturated Fat in Coconut Oil
- Shelf Life
- Side Effects
- Sinus, Allergy and Asthma Issues
- Skin Issues
- Smelly Scalp
- Sore Throat Infections, Chronic
- Storing Coconut Oil
- Stretch Marks
- Sweet Cravings
- Ted's Coconut Oil Feedback
- The Elderly and Children
- Virgin Coconut Oil
- Weight Loss
- Where to Buy: India
Last Modified on Mar 02, 2014<< Continued from page 23
Refined Vs. Extra Virgin Coconut Oil
08/12/2009: Connie from Manitowoc, Wisconsin: "Before educating myself I began using refined coconut oil and experienced chest pain, probably from the oil. When I switched to unrefined virgin coconut oil the pain disappeared."
[YEA] 11/19/2007: Stacey King from Gold Coast, Australia: "After reading a lot of the different comments here I think it is really important for people to understand the difference between virgin, extra virgin and the general term of coconut oil and why they give such different results.
WHAT IS COPRA OR COCONUT OIL?
My husband is a Banaban islander from Rabi Island, Fiji and was not only raised on coconut and coconut oil as part of daily life but also cut copra to make a living on his small impoverished island. Copra or dried coconut flesh is what is made into basic COCONUT OIL. It is a completely different form of oil compared to Virgin or Extra Virgin Coconut Oil now on the market.
When he cuts copra he first gathers coconuts that have fallen on the ground, cuts the nut in half and removes the white coconut meat. The coconut meat is then usually dried on a rack over a fire (they call them copra smokers) which helps to dry out the coconut meat and it turns a grey colour and has a rancid smell. The biggest and most abundant amount of wild coconuts are found in remote villages scattered across the Pacific and Asia. Sometime it can take up to 3-4 months before the villagers can get their bags of smoked copra to the big copra mills in town. The mills are usually situated 100's of miles away from these villagers. The copra mills resemble a smaller version of a sugar crushing mill and processing of the copra is similar to that found in the sugar mills. The copra is pressed and because the coconut is very smoky or rancid they use chemicals to bleach and clean the oil. This happens in all the basic edible food oils today in the market place. This is also the reason why this style of COCONUT OIL (Copra) processing became known in the old days as poor man's oil or dirty oil.
But for people in the village they only used freshly processed coconut oil and the premium or special oils that their grandmother's made from freshly squeezed coconuts were put aside and bottled for the special ceremonies in the village. Today this special oil is known as Extra or Virgin Coconut Oil and any comparisons to the processing of olive oil should not be used. The term for Extra Virgin Coconut Oil in the Coconut oil industry today means that this form of coconut oil processing is the most unrefined and most natural form and no artificial filtering or expeller pressing (centrifuge spinning -also known as oil polishing) is used. The oil remains in its most natural form and retains a rich smell and sweet taste of coconut.
Today because of the high demand for Virgin Coconut Oil many unscrupulous manufacturers are getting cheap copra oils and running them through centrifuge spinning machines to clean up the oils and also state they are ORGANIC. While the centrifuges remove the smell and all flavour from the oils the Copra COCONUT OIL is a much thicker oil that will NOT quickly absorb into the skin and does contain TRANS FAT. Accept for a higher level of lauric acid it is very similar to all other trans fat food oils on the market due to the processing. If you put this type of oil on your skin it is just that OIL and will clog the pores of your skin.
WHAT IS EXTRA VIRGIN OR VIRGIN COCONUT OIL
Good quality Extra Virgin or Virgin Coconut Oil should taste and smell like coconut. It should be a very fine oil and will quickly melt in the palm of your hand with body heat. If it does not solidify or melt quickly you know it is a much thicker and inferior oil. Extra Virgin Coconut Oil should be in a natural form and gravity or natural filtering of the oil is used. This type of Virgin Coconut Oil will still retain a level of fine coconut particles and usually a very high level of lauric acid. This type or premium VCO should not contain any microbe activity or foreign matter. If wild forest coconuts are used and are very mature trees they retain a very high lauric acid level and the oil can retain a slight golden colour.
While some of the Virgin Coconut Oils currently on the market are crystal clear in appearance they usually are made from the soft immature coconut flesh before the nut hardens. This type of coconut processing usually makes it easy to remove the coconut flesh and extract the oil with fermentation or boiling off the liquid. Because the coconut is not as mature it usually has lower lauric acid levels and the smell and flavour of the oil is not as strong.
It must be remembered that all coconuts when opened will quickly ferment and unless the moisture is removed properly during processing the oil will sour. Good quality Virgin Coconut Oils should have a shelf life of at lease 2 years without any deteriorate of the oil at all. When cooking with Virgin Coconut Oil the oil will fry at very high temperatures. Good quality Virgin Coconut Oil can be mixed in both hot and cold drinks.
To reap the great benefits of Virgin Coconut Oil make sure you know the difference between VIRGIN COCONUT OIL and Copra (basic COCONUT OIL) found in today's market place and why they should not be confused."Replies
08/12/2009: Connie from Manitowoc, Wisconsin replies: "Then you would say that coconut oil that is not of the highest quality will solidify in cold water, while high quality oil will remain liquid? And also that a slight yellow/tan color in the oil indicates it is of superior quality, as well."
[YEA] 11/07/2007: Cary from Phoenix, Arizona: "Most commercial grade coconut oils are made from copra. Copra is basically the dried kernel (meat) of the coconut. It can be made by: smoke drying, sun drying, or kiln drying , or derivatives or a combination of these three. If standard copra is used as a starting material, the unrefined coconut oil extracted from copra is not suitable for consumption and must be purified, that is refined. This is because the way most copra is dried is not sanitary. The standard end product made from copra is RBD coconut oil. RBD stands for refined, bleached, and deodorized. High heat is used to deodorize the oil, and the oil is typically filtered through (bleaching) clays to remove impurities. Sodium hydroxide is generally used to remove free fatty acids and prolong shelf life. This is the most common way to mass-produce coconut oil. The older way of producing refined coconut oil was through physical/mechanical refining (see Tropical Traditions Expeller Pressed Coconut Oil.). More modern methods also use chemical solvents to extract all the oil from the copra for higher yields.
RBD oil is also sometimes hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated. This happens mostly in tropical climates, since the natural melting point of coconut oil is about 76 degrees F, and already naturally a solid in most colder climates. Since coconut oil is mostly saturated, there is little unsaturated oil left to hydrogenate. Hydrogenated oils contain trans fatty acids.
Virgin Coconut Oil
Virgin Coconut Oil can only be achieved by using fresh coconut meat or what is called non-copra. Chemicals and high heating are not used in further refining, since the natural, pure coconut oil is very stable with a shelf life of several years. There are currently two main processes of manufacturing Virgin Coconut Oil:
1. Quick drying of fresh coconut meat which is then used to press out the oil. Using this method, the coconut meat is quick dried, and the oil is then pressed out via mechanical means. (see our Green Label Virgin Coconut Oil)
2. Wet-milling. With this method the oil is extracted from fresh coconut meat without drying first. "Coconut milk" is expressed first by pressing. The oil is then further separated from the water. Methods which can be used to separate the oil from the water include boiling, fermentation, refrigeration, enzymes and mechanical centrifuge. (see our Traditional Virgin Coconut Oil)
If you would like so see how they process the extra virgin oil, then go to youtube and you'll find it under.
The Cocovida virgin coconut oil production process...Take 11"
03/16/2013: Suzeeq from Port Saint Lucie, Florida: "Noticed a rash that looked like ringworm, found this site and decided to go with the coconut oil, can anyone tell me how long it takes to go away if I'm applying twice daily?"
Saturated Fat in Coconut Oil
07/25/2010: Tish from North York, Ontario, Canada: "Hello everyone at EC. This website has taught me so much regarding my health. For the past week I've after reading so much good abt EVCO started taking it, however I came across this article which has me worried: http://www.healthcastle.com/coconut-saturated-heart.shtml
I need some help here. Any insight will be appreciated. Take care all."Replies
07/28/2010: Tish from North York, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hey Francisca, thank you for the reply. You are right one should read all articles available to be sure. I have been on VCO for the past two weeks :) and have also started cooking with VCO, so far I feel great. Earth clinic was a blessing for me and I would like to thank everyone for taking the time and posting their progress on this website."
07/28/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Hi, maybe you should consider reading some books on the subject. . . . . That is what I did after getting some great information from Bill from the Philippines. I have recently posted a review on a book called Cholesterol and Fats are good for you but there are others specifically on coconut oil and coconut products. There is a lot of misinformation out there. . . . . I have started cooking with coconut oil, doing oil pulling with it too and using it as sun cream. So far, so good. . . . . . . We were in England last week and I got a magazine offered by the chemists (mainstream ones) where they had an article about how good coconut oil is for the health. I am going to read a few more books soon."
07/30/2010: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France replies: "Hi Tish, I have started reading a book today which I think is very interesting and which gives a lot of information: Trick and Treat. It is not only about fats but about health in general and how we are all getting more and more ill. Maybe I will post here a review at the end although I haven't understood yet whether people are interested in reading books."
02/08/2010: Robert from Moreno Valley, Ca: "Ive just started trying the Organic Virgin Coconut Oil and have read quite a bit here on your website and have read almost every single letter/email or comment. But Ive also read on another site that the oil is pretty high in saturated fat which is normally very bad for you and can cause heart disease and high cholesterol so how is it that so many people have claimed that it does the exact opposite? Is there a difference between the fat is from a fruit versus from an animal? Thanks and Im looking forward on seeing in the next few days how it will affect me."Replies
06/29/2010: Graham from Englewood, Florida, Usa replies: "The saturated fats in coconut oil are medium chain rather than the long chain version in meats. Saturated medium chain fats are very healthy."
06/29/2010: Tom from Regina, Sk replies: "Graham: Not true!
You are confusing terms, and also propagating another myth as bad as the cholesterol myth, and one that goes back even farther.
A glycerol or glycerine 'backbone' can attach one (mono), two (di), or three (tri) fatty acids, and each of those can be any degree (short, medium or long; un-, mono-, poly-)of unsaturation. Saturated fats are NOT bad for you in any amount or way or shape or form, and there are zero properly conducted scientific studies ever done that show them to be bad! If they were bad, then there would have been no 'primitives' living on the tropical islands for Dr. Weston Price to study in the 1920's for their superior health! They used coconuts almost exclusively for their dietary fat.
Coconut has MCTs, medium chain triglycerides, which are shorter than 'long chain', and MCTs are burned preferentially by the cells for energy. The reason is that the body uses the saturated fats as an essential building block in such things as cell membranes. But note that in the table in the link, coconut oil is very predominately composed of saturated fatty acids (over 90 %)!
Yet the tropical residents whom Dr. Price studied were among the very healthiest he'd ever seen,and especially compared to the First World people in the USA, Britain, etc. Of course since then the average First Worlder diet has gone way downhill, and there are almost no peoples extant still living the simple unprocessed food life that Price found quite common in the 1920's."
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 06/17/2009: Holli from Kansas City, MO: "When I found out the long list of benefits for coconut oil, i bought some. Primarily for my 5 yr olds seizures, but figured we'd use here n there. My acne is clearing up- by moisturizing with it. My hair looks better-hot coconut oil treatment. And best yet, my 5 yr old has had noticibly fewer/calmer seizures this week! I'm just a geek on the net, not trying to sell anything, but wow. read up on it's versatility."Replies
03/01/2010: Faithinhealing from Forest Park, Ohio, Usa replies: "Three years ago I started using raw coconut oil for my seizures after reading about the ketogenic diet which has helped people control their seizures. I kept my seizures away for three years until one day I stopped to detox with smoothies. That day I had a seizure and have since then gone back on a high fat diet to control them! I use coconut oil, olive oil, and real butter."
05/12/2011: Evelyn from Denver, Co: "Hi. I just read a whole lot about 'oil pulling' here on your site, what a strange idea... But with lots of valid uses! So, while considering giving this a try, I remembered that I still have a whole gallon of virgin coconut oil that my Dad bought, after much research on it's benefits, he never used it at all. You know, he was "old school". I believe he likely opened it, saw it as a gallon of really pricey fat, not quite remembering all the good claims it had made to it's use... Felt rather ashamed he'd probably been ripped off... Through no one's fault but his own, and closed it back up thinking... "~no way! ~"
The thing is... This was a few years ago. He has since passed, & adding that my daughter is highly allergic to coconut, I just felt it was better left alone, for the time being. (to rot?) OK, my daughter has now moved out. This gallon of fine virgin fat has been with me this whole time. I have been storing this gallon of (quite expensive) coconut oil, .. And yes, still I have it, sitting on the floor of my pantry.
OK, so I just now finally opened it up... yes, in the middle of writing this... But thought if it were rancid, I could save the trouble of asking/posting, here... But to my surprise, it was just as fine as could be. The surface hadn't even been touched! (I'm SO thankful that little furry green coconut babies didn't come oozing out..!! & I'll bet I've just stirred my dear old Dad's soul when I too, noticed that it looks just like a tub o' lard! ) Sorry, I don't mean to delay my point, or question, rather. I'm just in one of those writing modes, I guess...
So my question is: No harm in trying it out... Is there? Even being "aged", as it is? It doesn't smell like anything at all, but when I dipped some out into a smaller container & rubbed it into my hands and arms it got a light coconutty sweet smell to it, but not strong at all... Quite pleasing, really. Not at all rancid, sour or otherwise spoiled. I almost feel silly even asking, now that I've tested it out topically... & I suppose, if nothing else, I could make some kind of skin preparation from it! But since I've gone and typed all this out .... Maybe it will save someone else from having to ask. Or... Otherwise let the world know that it is probably ok to use even "aged" for... Ok, 2007, is when he floated on outta here, so... I'd give a likely guess at probably 6 or 7 years old, now. That's quite a long shelf life! Only due to its appearance, am I almost already comfortable with its future use, but, really, I know nothing about any kind of longivity for its health benefits to remain... I still value the opinion of an expert or knowledge of experience... Whichever...
So, please, do let me know if you see any adverse reasons for using this product!!! While I can't yet see myself spreading it on my toast, I don't forsee any harm if I were to swish it and spit it! I must say, it feels good to have that feeling of, "I just KNEW I'd find a use for ~that~.. someday! " I Thank you so much in advance for your consideration, and subsequent opinion/advice."Replies
05/13/2011: Anon. from Uk, Europe replies: "It would be a real shame to use the coconut oil for pulling (use sesame or sunflower oil instead) - you should use the coconut oil neat on your skin like moisturizer or better still as you would vegetable oil. It melts at 75 degrees F and, unlike many other oils, it can withstand the high temperatures undamaged. If you like the taste, you can eat it any way you like."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 09/13/2013: Sunny from Ca, Usa: "I have been talking coconut oil for about a month I take Virgin Cocout oil, ( good brand)( Organic) cold pressed, unrefined, 1000 mgs per 3 softgels. Softgels, started w 3 w meals, then stayed at 5 for a month 2 morn., 1 midday, 2 dinner. I took this for an infection I have been having. I have had a strange side effect of like cloudy eyes. I get these clouds on my eyes, where I see blurry and I have to blink my eyes a lot till it takes off. ( maybe my eye mucus got thick???? dry??) I was wondering if this has been a side effect for any of you?
I am only taking this so it cannot be other things.. Have been eating the same, and my infection is not on my eyes ok.
The positive that I did notice is not much constipation. But not much difference with my infection either :(
I plan on decreasing the dose, to see how I feel. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks!!!"
06/23/2013: Dee from Mel, Australia: "Hi am a big fan of this amazing site. Recently I came up with a strep throat and I was in pain. Tried apple cider vinegar and cayenne pepper but no relief this time. So I thought it must be bacterial then. Went to the doctor and she said it bacterial infection so had no choice but to take antibiotics which I hate taking them.. Am on pencillin for 12 days. Hate it but now I have already started so have it finish the whole course..
My question is that I had just started taking two teaspoon of coconut oil everyday and after a week I got sick with this throat infection.. Can it be related? And can I continue taking coconut oil while on antibiotic or is not safe to take it together??? Please help me am confused."Replies
06/25/2013: Art. from Vancouver Bc., Canada replies: "Dear Dee, I don't know about your condition but I do know that Coconut Oil can cause a plaque build up in your arteries causing a heart attack.
06/25/2013: Sara from The Beach, Canada replies: "Coconut oil is among the few plant-based foods that contains saturated fat, yet unlike the saturated fat found in meat and dairy that increases your LDL cholesterol and builds up plaque, the saturated fat found in coconut oil differs in chemical composition and protects against cardiovascular disease. Consult your doctor about the benefits of including coconut oil in your diet."
06/26/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Art, it seems that specifically Coconut Oil, does the opposite. Other saturated fats, like animal fats do build up plaque if taken in excess."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 03/28/2013: Natali from Moncton, Nb: "I am trying to put coconut oil in daily cooking. But as soon as I made tortilla with coconut oil instead of crisco, my husband complains of having heartburn. Will this heartburn go away or should I look for other alternatives beside coconut oil? Thanks."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 02/21/2013: Nicole from Melbourne, Australia: "Hi everyone, I have been taking 1 tsp of extra virgin coconut oil organic cold pressed about 3 days before my menses and I also drank coconut water on those days as well.
On the first day of my menses I drank 2 bottles of coconut water and about 4 tsp of VCO it was really light and the pan wasn't so severe, I was happy because nothing else seemed to work for me, not the ACV with mother, not the unsulphured BSM or the cayenne pepper, they all just made my period heavier for some strange reason.
I had hope for once but then that night I started to bleed like crazy and clotting more than usual, I don't understand why this keeps happening to me. Please if Ted or anyone could help me, did I take too much VCO? Is the VCO and coconut water making my menses worse?
I'm on my second day now and it's still heavy I'm lying in bed trying not to move, I'm drinking some coconut water but I haven't had anything else for today please help me I would like some answers. Thank you."Replies
02/21/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Nicole, you can try sage tea twice a day. Yep, sage the spice. Just put a teaspoon or less in boiling water and let steep a bit."
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 10/07/2012: Brezilda from Cebu, Philippines: "Hi! My husband has been taking 2 tablespoon of VCO and oil pulling with VCO for about 3 weeks. I have just been oil pulling with VCO for 3 weeks. We both seem to have lost weight, teeth seem whiter. However, the side effcets have kicked in. I started with excrutiating headaches for 2 days and then loose bowel movements. My husband felt tired, then had very runny bowel movement over 2 days, fever, and exhaustion. As of now, we are experiencing loose bowel movement still.
Question : is this the die-off effect?
Do we continue after this diahrea calms down?
Do we lower the dosage of VCO taken and number of oil pulling?"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 09/25/2010: Vacoffee Drinker from Fairfax, Va, Usa: "Started taking coconut oil about a week ago, 3tbs each day with meals. Not much gain on the energy level, definitely diarrhea/loose stool which I've read about on multiple sites. What about the weight? I'm going up, is this normal in the beginning? Would appreciate some insight."Replies
09/26/2010: Lisa from Lafayette, La replies: "You are taking in an additional 300 calories per day. If you are not cutting out the same amount of calories, you are going to gain weight, to the tune of about 1 pound every 12 days."
09/27/2010: Jules from Denver, Colorado replies: "Coconut oil has 120 calories per tablespoon. Your taking in an extra 360 calories daily which is like eating an extra meal. One pound is equal to 3500 calories. Every 10 to 12 days you will gain a pound if you don't work the extra 360 off. The oil is beneficial, just x out your morning bagel or evening dessert, or run for 20 minutes daily. Best of luck"
[SIDE EFFECTS] 08/22/2010: Juan from Houston, Tx: "The other day I took 1 teaspoon of Organic Coconut Oil and a day later this red "C" shaped thing appeared on my arm. It itches and has a burning sensation and I also have the sudden urge to scratch my body, mostly on my legs. I went out and bought anti-fungal cream but it didn't do any good. I then tried ACV, tea tree oil, ginger on the "C" shaped thing but it's still there. Does anyone know what this is and how to get rid of it? It has tiny red bumps, if that makes any difference. Thanks"Replies
08/24/2010: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "As with any living organisms, they tend to run away from the source trying to kill them. This happens even in cancer. My favorite solution is to get a magnesium chloride solution and apply to the red unknown area and apply that as many times as possible. However, there is other possibilities, such as applying vinegar, or lugol's solution to the area. You need at least apply this 6 to 8 times a day for it to begin working. However magnesium tends to work almost immediately in some cases. Vinegar tends to work against virus and some fungus, but you need to keep getting vinegar long enough, or with the solution such as 20 minutes at least. The lugol's works best against virus, but also the fungus.
If I am dealing with the fungus issue, it is best to keep the body alkalized as the best approach in general, as fungus can't exist in more alkaline condition. At the very least the simplest of all solution, is 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda taken 30 minutes after meal, preferably three times a day. If it is taken for about two weeks, the fungus will begin to subside, not in every case, because yeast and fungus may still persist in certain areas of the body. The reason why they won't completely die off is that they will survive on one more thing: sugar either from fruits, sweet drinks and any sugar. Thereafter they may persist on wheat, white bread and flour. A person with a mineral deficiencies, such as chromium, selenium, molybdenum, copper and manganese tend to be low in people with this condition. A simple vitamin to reduce some candida that I know is niacinamide vitamin B3. If the red thing on the arm is indeed a fungus, a strong solution, say 50% vitamin B3 niacinamide apply to the skin should kill them. The same is true if 250 mg of niacinamide is taken 4 times a day, for about a week or so. The chemical properties of niacinamide seems to prevent the fungus from attaching to healthy cells, hence kill it off that way, technically it kills by disturbing the fungus metabolism. However, I do find people with fungus issue are also low on B1 thiamine, and B2 riboflavin.
04/25/2012: K from Mobile, Al replies: "The "C" shape is usually indicative of hives, which means your body is treating the coconut as an allergen, and releases histamine which form in little raised formations. The hives can go away in one spot, then come back in another spot. Try taking an antihistamine for symptoms and get an allergy test done before further use."