This is my experience with the epsom salt flush.
A brief health history first:
I suffer from R. Arthritis for about 10 years. The first 9 years I've been able to manage pretty well with exercise strict diet and herbs. The last year, I seemed to have gotten worse to a point that I couldn't get out of bed. Everything I ate caused me severe joint pain that I just would starve myself and sleep all day. I also noticed that I wasn't hungry anymore and lost about 15 lbs in less than 6 months. I'm petite 110lb and went down to 95 lbs where my bones in my shoulders and ribs were showing. I tried my own natural remedies: turmeric, acv, etc. and still severe pain
Finally after 6 months of nothing working, I saw a local ND but she was no help. All she did was suggest detox supplements that she sold and although I had a little bit more energy, my joint pain was unbearable, like 9 to 10 unbearable and barely getting any sleep at night. I spent about $1000 on her and I was still suffering. She also was a devout believer in muscle testing, so she would tell me I couldn't eat this food or that food which left me barely eating and starving myself further.
I tried elimination diet while in her care and I was starving myself figuring out what foods to eat. I think she made me worse. Then I broke down and decided to spend money on a functional practitioner and he ordered a thorough panel of tests: blood, stool, urine, etc. I found out that I was severely deficient in vitamins, iron, calcium, etc. So I had several bacteria in my stool (h.pylori), had methylation, and high ammomia, high cholesterol, etc. So instead of tackling my bacteria issues which were causing me digestive issues, he sold me expensive herbal supplements to focus on reducing inflammation which cost another 200. Then after 2 weeks he started adding b vitamins and vitamin d but no probiotics or anything to focus on my digestion. I drank Ted's antibacterial tea (1 tsp of each: thyme, cumin, oregano, ceylon cinnamon, and 1/2tsp of clove (everything was grounded) and drank that 2 to 3 times a day and that really helped my joint and my digestion but was still feeling nauseous and having very loose stools..
Finally I decided to let him go and found an amazing ND from N. Mexico. I left a message to the front desk about my issues and he told her to call me back told me to take 4 drops of Lugols first thing AM and Afternoon on empty stomach wait an hour and then take enteric probiotic then wait an hour to eat. He said in about 4 days you should start feeling better. In 2 days, I was pain free and was able to eat way better. Not perfect but 80 to 85% improvement. I decided to drive 6 hours to go see him the next week. I told him about my lab test and all my issues. He didn't even look at them. He knew exactly what I needed. I forgot to add that I also have a very painful right shoulder that is frozen. An xray showed demineralization and osteoporosis (he said vitamin c will cure this).
So he gave me this regimen: no gluten or dairy, eat chicken, eggs, legumes, and lots of fruits and veggies, 4000 mg of vit c, a mutivitamin which includes probiotics and digestive enzymes, fulvic and humic acid drink, plant based iron supplement, and said to sit in sun for 30 minutes everyday for vitamin D. He also told me about earthing which I try to do everyday but now I'm looking into making an earthling mat for my bed. He also said, do an epsom salt flush. I waited a few days to do this flush but in the meantime, everything he gave me, my pain went from 9 to 10 to 2 to 4 just in a few days.
So here is my experience with epsom salt flush. It was a horrible experience. It tasted terrible and although I had lots of chaff and green stones, I was nauseous and had diarrhea and pounding headache for a week rendering me not being able to take supplements or eat anything losing 5 lbs and my weight going down to 90lbs.. A few days later, I suffered severe pain heart palpitations that I thought I was having a heart attack that would not stop after a half hour. I almost went to the emergency room but was scared about the covid. I tried everything to calm it down: breathing exercises, meditation, thinking happy thoughts, but my heart kept pumping hard. Finally I decided to take cbd and it helped me fall asleep peacefully with no problems. I woke up in the morning and my heart started pounding again but not as badly as the night before. I decided to do some research on epsom salt and read that it has high magnesium and figured out on my own that you need potassium to balance it. So I ate banana and freshly squeezed pink grapefruit (from my tree) every day and I haven't had any problems with my heart ever again. It's been 2 weeks since I did the flush. I think the reason my body reacted so badly to it is because I was already sick from the h. Pylori and nutritionally deficient, and so underweight that my body couldn't handle that much magnesium. I want to try the flush again bc I think it will help my digestion but I'm doing extensive research before I engage. I also want to gain more weight before I put my body through that again.
Sorry such a long story but I am feeling way better. My body has been through so much for the past year that now I'm just getting my strength back and am slowly introducing my body to different foods, almost like a baby. My pain has subsided to level 1 to 2 maybe 4 on bad days. My right shoulder is better but I found out I pinched a nerve in my neck causing my shoulder pain which I can barely move. I'm just going to start pt and go from there. That Lugol's saved my life and now I can sleep eat and exercise. And what's amazing, it only cost $ 12 for 2 bottles of 2%. I spent over 4k on the the 2 doctors and got nowhere. Shows that even ND's don't know what they're doing. Finding a good one very rare.
Hope my story helps. Stay safe and healthy!
I started doing gallbladder flushes in 2000. I usually do one every 3 months. One thing I noticed is that to be really successful I needed to do a parasite cleanse first. I like black walnut hull, cloves, and wormwood seem to be the most effective. Amazingly parasites will clog the bile duct and prevent stones from passing, even when dilated by Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom salts). I like the Hulda Clark flush, a tablespoon of Epsom salt at 6 pm, 8 pm then at 10pm take olive oil in grapefruit juice, though others on here have other juices they like. I have found that taking Chanca Piedra helps remove more stones.
Dark green stones are the older ones, light green to tan are newer. Cholesterol, the main component of stones, is light and floats. You are always making new stones, I noticed when I need more sleep it is time for a cleanse. Cholesterol will bond with calcium making them really difficult to dissolve (these stones show up on x-ray, newer stones will not), so the Flush is the effective way for people new to liver maintenance to proceed. Epsom salts are rather hard to swallow after several flushes, so I found that a swallow of pop after downing each dose helps reduce the aftertaste.
Also, this may sound silly, keep your tongue on the floor of your mouth, taste buds on the bottom of your tongue strongly taste Epsom salt.
I just did my first gallbladder flush, and to my surprise I passed 3 fairly large green stones (1 - 2 cm), about 5 medium stones (.5 - 1 cm), and some smaller ones! Also, I passed a LOT of small white pieces of "chaff".
Instead of stopping the flush in the morning according to the protocol, I extended it the rest of the day because I did not start passing the green stones until the end. I thought I should keep it going to see if more would come out - and they did!
I added Grapefruit Seed Extract to the Epsom Salt drink on day 2 because I am pretty sure GSE is good for killing parasites.
In the weeks prior to the flush, I did 6 weeks of coffee enemas, drank ACV, drank beet juice, and ate lots and lots of spinach. Also, I purchased a mini-trampoline, jumping about 3 times a week, which is excellent for the digestive system and probably helped stimulate the stones to pass.
I am grateful to the good Lord for giving me wisdom to heal my liver. Thanks to Earth Clinic for this helpful site! It's great to know I can easily do this again in the future. And ya know - the process really was not all that unpleasant!!
Hi! I have done gallstone flushes two times now this last 3 months. The first one did not work, the second one worked *even though I am still not sure if I should lay on may right side or left side.
But I did an ultrasound check and it shows still a 15 mm gallstone! So my question is, is there a way to dissolve this big gallstone with chanca piedra (have already been taking it for a month)
And how much time would it take me. Have you had any succesfull experience dissolving big gallstones?
I do not eat meat anymore, nor milk or cheese. Only fish and eggs. I do not eat sugar anymore nor bread. My liver exams shows my liver is in perfect condition now, also my pancreas.
What more can I do?
Thanks in advance!
For gallstones, here is your answer, and I have done it personally. Works unless you have a serious infection or if your gallstones are too big and calcified to pass.
1) plan an evening and the next day when you can take it easy and not have responsibilities.
2) on day of cleanse EAT ABSOLUTELY NO FAT WHATSOEVER! It's only one day and yes this includes creamer in your coffee!
3) fast and limit water intake after noon on day of cleanse.
4) have the following on hand: 60 capsules of Epsom salts (Hulda Clark store online has them, maybe your health food store) two fresh grapefruits, organic olive oil.
5) at 5pm take 15 capsules and enough water to swallow.
6) prep your bedtime, do hygiene, arrange bed so you can sleep on back.
7) prep 3/4 C squeezed grapefruit juice and 1/2C olive oil.
8) at 9:00 take 15 more capsules
9) At 10:00 sharp, drink ALL OF THE MIXTURE AND LAY DOWN ON YOUR BACK. Don't get up until am.
10)when you wake take 15 more caps. You are going to have diarrhea! Look for little plugs floating in the toilet, these are the stones (google pic search “gallstones” to see what you're looking for).
10) four hours later take your fourth and last dose of 15 caps. You can re introduce food slowly, start with some fruit or rice, something mild.
WHY DOES THIS WORK?
Not eating fat causes bile to build up; (if you cheat and don't fast you will get nauseous) epson salts dilate sphincter of gall bladder; drinking oil stimulates GB to contract expelling stones; the stones float because they are made of cholesterol. This is VERY safe to do, and is best done before a bad attack, but if you are in an attack, taking epson salts will ease the pain (because it dilates the sphincter and eases pressure). I have done both during an attack and when I wasn't having an attack to prevent one. The first time I did it one of my stones was calcified! You can also get just a bunch of cholesterol “chaff” that is clogging up your GB but hasn't formed stones yet.
IF YOUR PAIN DOES NOT SUBSIDE OR YOU HAVE A FEVER GO TO THE DOCTOR!
Good luck! ðŸ˜‰
Was diagnose of multiple gallstones 2006.
As at that time had no idea how to deal with it, doctor suggested surgery but didn't opted to that till early last year with several attacks I spent more time to researched online other alternatives to deal with the problem. So lucky I came across liver flush. A lot mores stones came out .
Presently I have been having frequent attacks, I tried the flush few greenish stones came out. I had my gallbladder check and is left with 1.20cm stone left. Can this still cause attacks since I have been having attacks lately?
Whoa, not as easy and painless as everyone says. This flush was the equivalent of having a 24 hr stomach virus. Had to hold back the puke all night, spent night on cold bathroom floor, stomach hurt constantly with no relief and had maybe 6 or 7 straight water bm within a 2 hr period. However, the last poo of the morning following the night from hell produced hundreds of green floating balls and 2 large ones maybe an inch across. Not a total fail but you couldn't pay me to do it again.
Over The Moon
I'm very thankful for all the almost countless helpful and at times life saving remedies provided hear on Earth Clinic. The Earth Clinic contributors and reader's success stories have been my guiding light in helping to heal me as well as many friends and family members, so I would like to start by saying....Thank you!
I have been visiting this site for years now and have always just spent my time reading and learning and have never posted, until now.
The reason I have finally posted is due to the fact that I simply want to warn people about one simple yet potentially very dangerous thing regarding the "Gall Bladder Cleanse" protocol.
I would highly recommend using lemon juice and NOT Grapefruit Juice if you are on certain medications. The list of medications that interact with Grapefruit juice is staggering and some of the interactions can be very severe, so if you are on a medication and still want to use it then please be sure to check that any medications you are on are actualy safe to take with the Grapefruit juice before starting.
Here is one of many links available showing medications that interact with Grapefruit juice:
Much love and light to all.
I did several gall bladder/liver cleanses for their health benefits prior to ever having a gall bladder issue. About 6 years ago, after going several years without doing a cleanse, I had a severe attack that had me writhing in agony before I finally went to the local ER. They gave me bad advice, pumped me full of pain killers, and advised me to have my gall bladder removed. I thanked them for their advice then ignored it.
I did a cleanse the next day and another one a few days after that. I drank about a gallon of unsweetened apple juice, some distilled water, and a tbs or so of apple cider vinegar, and ate nothing but a can of beets mixed with flax seed oil. At night I drank a bottle of Magnesium Citrate (epsom salts might be a bit better, but tastes terrible) followed an hour later by a half and half mixture of olive oil and lemon juice, then went straight to bed. In the morning I drank a second bottle of Magnesium Citrate and another a few hours later. I passed a large number of stones, a few hundred, and still have my gall bladder.
I did another one a few days later (although, some naturopaths advise against one so soon) and another a few weeks later. It is better to fast on the juices for 3 days before doing the olive oil and lemon juice, but after my serious attack I wasn't going to put it off that long.
Preventative measures that I've used include drinking a tbs or more of flax seed oil a half hour before meals, and mixing the oil with beets when I feel discomfort. I've been warned against coffee, but I read a study that states that those who drink 4 or more cups of coffee per day are far less likely to have a gall bladder attack. I can't verify that study, but I do not restrict my coffee drinking.
I started having some pains again while climbing Mt. Aconcagua in Argentina, but they were only enough to make me nervous. I was on the highest mountain in the world outside of Asia, and having a full blown attack was something to fear. For this reason, I'm going through a cleanse right now as a preventive measure before my wife and I go on a Mekong River cruise in Vietnam and Cambodia. The temporary discomfort and trouble involved with cleanses is nothing compared with the pain and danger of a serious gall bladder attack.
Ten Mile, Tn.
Park City, Usa
I have completed four gallbladder flushes in the last three months and am excited to report that they work! I have been hesitant. I have been skeptical. But when desperation came along, I had to give it a go and I am so glad I did!
At least 12 years ago I started to have pain in the gallbladder area. A sonogram of the area concluded that I did NOT have stones, but I have since learned from Timh that the scans can miss the stones. The gallbladder pain and trouble came and went through the years. It tended to be worse in pregnancy. Somewhere along the line I found Earth Clinic and started using Apple Cider Vinegar for gallbladder attacks and other things and it helped me for years.
In the last year, it seems that things were getting worse and worse. More and more foods were on my "that doesn't agree with me list, " and I mean healthy foods. The supplement Betaine Hcl helped for a while and then it stopped helping. I was afraid to eat pretty much anything. I did finally see a doctor who sent me for an ultrasound. The report was that I had one large stone (1.5 cm) and that my gallbladder was "full of stones." Meanwhile, I started taking digestive enzymes and at least I could eat if I was careful and didn't eat too late in the day. Bloodwork indicated that my liver function was fine. So, after hearing about gallbladder flushes for a dozen years, I finally got up the courage to try it. I figured, the worst thing that could happen would be that I would get a stone stuck and need surgery. I was headed there anyway, so I had little to lose and a lot to gain.
I followed the protocol outlined on the gallbladder cleanse page. I was careful to follow it closely at that seemed important. In brief here is what I did:
No fat breakfast and lunch. No food after 2pm.
7 pm - 1 T. epsom salt in 3/4 cup water. NOT delicious, but tolerable with a straw.
9 pm - 1 T. epsom salt in 3/4 cup water. (Still NOT delicious! )
The epsom salt was doing its job of purging my system, but I didn't feel too awful and was able to play card games with my kids until their bedtime.
11pm - 1/2 cup organic olive oil, 1/2 cup fresh squeezed grapefruit juice. I added 1/4 t. salt and 20 drops black walnut tincture and 6 digestive enzyme capsules. (I put it all in the blender, except for the enzymes.) I drank my drink, which was actually pretty tasty. It was like salad dressing. I lay down on my right side with my right leg bend and up. I was afraid it might make me sick but it did not. I was afraid I would need to get up and have more purging from the epsom salt, but I did not.
7 am - 1 T. epsom salt in 3/4 cup water. (STILL NOT delicious! )
9 am - 1 T. epsom salt in 3/4 cup water. (Okay, I really don't like this.)
11 am - I resumed juice and later light soup etc. But dinnertime I felt pretty good though ate lightly.
I probably passed around a dozen "stones" during the day. Small pea sized and colored. Not too exciting. Obviously NOT the large stone seen on the sonogram. But I had read that you may need to do several to get all of the stones out. A little discouraging, but at least the first flush was behind me and it wasn't awful at all. Just kind of inconvenient. You basically can't do much and need to be near a rest room for close to 24 hours.
A few weeks later I repeated the flush (2nd flush). I used 1 T. epsom salt in 2/3 cup water (instead of 3/4 cup), which is recommended if you don't get many stones the first time. I also added 1/2 teaspoon citric acid to my olive oil drink. I kept every thing else the same.
I did pass more stones - the green kind. Probably 100 or so. Plus "chaff."
A few weeks later I repeated the flush (3rd). The only change was that I think I layed on my back and not my right side. I had almost no stones and just some chaff. I was getting discouraged, but at least after each flush I did feel better for a week or two.
Somewhere around the time of the second flush I started to take dandelion/burdock root/alfalfa tincture (home made) because these are good herbs for stones and for liver/gall health.
After the third flush I started using castor oil packs several nights a week over the liver area. So before my fourth flush, I had been doing castor oil packs and herbs.
Fourth flush. I repeated the protocol with the tweaks from before (2/3 cup water with the epsom salt, citric acid.) I also laid on my left side instead of right. (That is what Timh says he does. It makes more sense to me to do that, too.)
I had dozens of green stones and some chaff around the time of the morning epsom salt drinks. And the day after that, lo and behold, I passed two rocks, each about 2 cm in length. I was so excited!!! These were light in color, irregularly shaped and hard. Wow, wow, wow! I couldn't quite believe it. Aside from paying for another ultrasound, I had worried that I would not know if the stones were out. What if they came out and I missed them? What if the herbs dissolved them?
Why did the fourth flush work the best?
Maybe it took that long to get things moving.
Maybe the herbs and castor oil helped.
Maybe laying on the left side is better.
Interestingly, I felt bad for a couple of days after the flush. Usually I am back to normal quickly but I took a longer time to recover. It makes me wonder if the whole thing caused some detox type reaction.
Another thing to note is that I have consumed apple cider vinegar regularly for years. As in - I have bought and used gallons over the years. I love it for many things. For some, apple cider vinegar seems to dissolve stones. But maybe my type of stone doesn't dissolve with acv.
I did try taking Malic acid for days up to the flushes and it didn't seem to make a difference for me.
After the first flush I read that you could have a taste of honey at the end of the epsom salt drinks to get rid of the bitter taste, so I did this and found it helpful.
There are many "nay sayers" to the gall bladder flush. Certainly it does not behoove certain people if people can do this at home and avoid surgery....there has been the assertion that the small pea green soft stones are a result of saponification and that they are just the olive oil and I can't recall what else and not real stones. If this assertion were true, it would not make sense that each time I have done a flush I get a dramatically different amount of those green stones. One time I had almost none. Another time at least one hundred. I would expect if this were saponification and I always followed the same recipe, the amount of green stones would be about the same.
I will probably do a few more flushes. I am a little bit addicted now. :) I am pretty amazed that for under $10 I have cleaned out my gallbladder, been spared surgery, and get to keep this little organ that has caused me a good bit of trouble, though I am sure I am better off with it than without it!
I hope this will be helpful to others. I have found reading the stories of others' experiences very helpful to me in this whole process, so I decided to write out the details.
~Mama to Many~
I have confirmed gallstones but was also diagnosed with diverticular disease many years ago. Due to many years of over prescribed antibiotics I have permanent chronic abdomen pain ( like eating brillo pads for most meals ) and is very difficult to differentiate between this and the real thing. What I would like to know is, would it be dangerous for me to do a gallbladder flush because the stones might get lodged in one of the pockets. I have no idea what size these are and also, I was advised many years ago not to have colonic irrigation. Can they be safely dissolved and pass out naturally which would be better for me?
Ten Mile , Tn
After having a few, random but severe pains in my stomach, I thought that maybe I just had an issue with milk. I stopped drinking it entirely (which was very hard to do) in hopes that these pains would stop. They didn't. I knew something was going on & didn't even think anything of my gall bladder. A few months went by & it was becoming worse. I was getting attacks 2-3 times a week, when it used to be maybe 1 a week. After the last one, the most severe of it all, I decided to Google.
Every single symptom I was suffering from was in conjunction with gall bladder issues & stones. It made sense, the pains where right where it suggested. I initially went through my health insurance's website to find someone to go get a check up. But when I used the cost estimation tool, it was going to cost me at the very, very least $7,000. That was just for the procedure to remove my gall bladder, let alone recovery & anything else. My brother had his removed a few months ago & ended up paying $28k. No way, not for me.
So I found a lot of sites listing the natural approach. I was a bit skeptical, but after reading so many positive reviews, I decided for less than $20, I'd give it a try. What's one more week if it doesn't work..then I will contact a doctor. I am so happy to say that it won't be necessary.
I followed the cleansing instructions very closely. I knew I had two days off in a row coming up so I decided to start the process the night of my last attack. It was really late at night & I first ended up running to the store to get some Apple Cider Vinegar...what a lifesaver. It cut the pain out within 20 minutes for me. While I still felt some pressure, I was actually able to sleep thanks to this stuff.
Then, for the next 4 days, I ate 2-3 apples a day and drank as much 100% apple juice as I could. I ate pretty clean during that time, too. I also normally drink a gallon of water a day, so I stuck with that so I kept myself well hydrated. On the day of the flush, I was a bit excited to see if it was going to work for me. I drank apple juice with the epsom salt, because the water route was just not working for me. It was horrible, I won't lie. I cringed knowing I'd have to repeat the drink but in the end, it is so worth it.
For the final step, I drank a 1/2 cup extra virgin olive oil, with a 1/4 cup sugarfree grapefruit juice. I would have preferred to freshly squeeze the juice but I just simply did not have that option. I laid on my right hand side for 2 hours straight. Then I got some water (big mistake) and ended up throwing up a bit of the evoo. Not fun, it was the weirdest feeling to throw up oil. I had read after the fact to not do anything else after the last drink, but I was a bit thirsty & kind of a night owl.
The next morning, I drank another serving of the salt. No movement. Then it was time for the final serving & thank god for that. I ended up chasing it down with some honey because I was afraid I was going to throw up again. Luckily, it stayed down & just about an hour later...well, out came the stones. I was basically on & off the toilet for a few hours & was amazed at what was coming out. It makes you feel kinda weird to get up & look at what has come out, but it was also kind of fascinating.
This has saved me thousands of dollars & those little devils are just right there. I ended up eating some low-sodium soup two hours after the last salt drink...I was starving. But I eased myself back into it & didn't have the mentality of "Oh, well they're out now so I can go back to eating like crap." I feel like after this cleanse, I need to stick to a cleaner diet to prevent this from happening again. While the flush was very successful for me, no side effects at all, it's not something I would want to do again. You definitely need two consecutive days, because you will basically live in your bathroom for a while. But I would recommend this to anyone & everyone. It is much better than paying way too much money to get your organs removed.
7 Day GALLSTONE Flush.
I forgot where I got this from, my family has used it for years with success. My daughter was told she needed gallstone surgery some years back but used this flush instead. She passed the stones, and didn't need the gallstone surgery.
I don't know about you, but I believe my gallbladder has a purpose for being there and I'd like to keep it. -------------------------------------
. Apple juice
. Grapefruit juice (canned is OK).
. lemon juice, fresh squeezed is better
. Epsom salts
. Extra virgin olive oil (The green colored oil)
Monday through Saturday drink all the apple juice you can with your regular diet.
On Saturday, 3 hours after lunch, dissolve 2 teaspoons Epsom salts in a small glass of hot water and drink it, followed by a glass of grapefruit juice.
Repeat the Epsom salt, hot water procedure in 2 hours.
Eat nothing for dinner except a half a grapefruit and a glass of grapefruit juice.
Just before going to bed, mix 1/2 cup of warm olive oil with 1/2 cup of grapefruit juice and drink it.
Follow that with 1/2 cup olive oil mixed with 1/2 cup of lemon juice.
Then go straight to bed lying on your right side with your right knee pulled up as close to your chest as possible for a half hour.
On Sunday morning take 2 more teaspoons of Epsom salts in a small amount of hot water, at least an hour before eating breakfast.
That mornings bowel movement will contains small green irregular shaped cholesterol stones, some just smaller than the size of cherries.
I know this is tough but it has worked really well for my family. hope it works well for you.
I would like you to take an old family recipe that seems to work for my family and friends. The follow is natural and reasonable:
1. Squeeze two grapefruits and add juice to glass
2. Immediately after drinking the grapefruit juice, take a tablespoon of olive oil (or coconut oil) and you should get some relief in the restroom
Caveat: Sometimes stones have increased over a long period of time and you might have to repeat the process. God Bless Andy
Doing the gallbladder cleanse from Hulda Clarke's Cure for all Cancer book is the most liberating and empowering thing you can do for your body! No longer will you be held hostage by the medical community and be advised to have your gallbladder removed, which never solves the problem!
When you get to the point of gallbladder pain, the stones have accumulated to the point of literally choking off the bile that should flow to assist in the digestive process.
The stones are often hiding in the liver and only enter the gallbladder when the liver is so full they have no where else to go.
Personally I have done over a dozen gallbladder flushes, some more successful than others, but every time a feeling of enlightenment and empowerment has come over me that 'I did this myself' and took control of my own body and repaired an out of balance condition that could have ended me up in the hospital and cost literally thousands of dollars!
Don't give up and let the doctors cut on you and prescribe their poisons! Learn everything you can and you will amaze yourself with what you can do!