I have a large gallstone and when I have apple or apple juice it causes me to have a gallbladder attack with pain and severe vomiting. Now I'm guessing it's because the apple softened the stone and mine is too big to pass so it instead makes me sick. ACV does seem to help some of the time but my attacks are severe and I'm getting my gallbladder removed, just waiting for the call for surgery....
A few years ago I was diagnosed with Gall Stones and was having to sleep upright on the couch due to the reflux. My doctor said well all we can do is schedule you in for an operation to remove your Gall Bladder as if we just remove the stones they will eventually come back. I argued that I didn't want a part of my body removed for no real good reason but doctor knows best, right? There was a waiting list at the hospital so I suffered for about 4 weeks until my operation date and in the meantime a colleague at work noticed I wasn't in the best health and asked me what was wrong and I told her. The next day she came to me and said she had mentioned me to her Chilean Grandmother who passed on this old folk cure for me to try.
You need to eat a minimum of 8 big apples in a 24 hour period (green are the best as they are the most acidic but you can mix it up).
Starting at breakfast on day one, eat nothing but raw apples for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Day two repeat as per day one. On day two before you go to bed drink 2/3 cup of virgin olive oil, follow this with a 1/3 cup of lemon juice (to get the oil out of your mouth). Then go to sleep on your right side for the night. Freshly squeezed apple juice and herbal teas are ok for these 2 days but don't skimp on the apples, the more the better.
The acid in the apples will break down the gallstones naturally and the olive oil will help with the elimination of the broken down stones. This is amazing and worked for me so well that my awful symptoms immediately passed and I could lie down in my bed again to sleep that 2nd night.
I went to my pre-op appointment and when the nurse asked how I am I said I'm fine now, the stones are gone. She didn't believe me until another ultrasound showed I was all clear! She then asked me how I did it and said she would tell a relative of hers about it.
Unsurprisingly the doctor didn't believe a word of my story and just said there must have been a mistake in my original ultrasound to which I replied "I've not mistaken the pain I've been in the past few weeks, it was real and now it's completely gone". I still have both ultrasounds and my whole body is intact. I do the apple diet every year as a preventative although my diet has also changed for the better so therefore I don't expect to have Gall Stones ever again.
Do you mean cooking apples or granny smith apples?
I managed to eat just over 2 apples in the morning and my stomach kept trying to tell me to stop. Did that happen for you? I have been on drips in A & E so those kind of signs scare me a bit. There was no way I could have eaten more apples when I got home for lunch it felt.
I was trying with the granny smith apples and it hurt my gums and teeth quite a bit.
I really hope you can reply and I can get this to work. Thank you so much
If you cannot take the apples, then use cloudy apple juice fresh in cartoons, and take a glass morning and night for two weeks before you do the actual cleanse. if you are in pain take a tablespoon of ACV with 8 ounces of Cloudy Apple juice sip slowly over 20 mins, and that will take away the pain. This worked for me.
I ate 1-2 apples every 2-3hrs or whenever I felt hungry. I ate a variety of types of apples so I wouldn't get too bored. I even baked some green apples whole at dinner with a raw one for desert. Optimally is to have nothing but raw apples go through your system for minimum of 24hrs as it is the natural acids in the apples that break the stones down. Best of luck
What size of stone did you flush? Do I need to care what size of stone it is inside? What did you feel during the 2nd night? Did you go to toilet too often? Did you take any epsom salt? Many Thanks.
I had several smaller size stones 1mm-2mm from memory. I suggest for bigger stones to extend the cleanse to 3 or 4 days perhaps. After 5 years I'm happy to report I have not had a recurrence of gallstones.
It is challenging to eat only apples but the results are worth it. As the old saying goes - an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
I also changed to a healthy diet (Namely the Eat Right 4 Your Type - Blood Type Diet), regular exercise and meditation in the last 5 years, taking a holistic approach to my health and well-being.
Health and happiness to you all :)
Wow, I have one stone as far as I know, I really am desperate to get rid of it. It causes me too much pain. Especially when I consume fatty foods,, it kills me. The next day. Thank you for sharing this!
Apples, Epsom Salt, Olive Oil, Lemon
This curement with apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil and lemon really excellent curement, to save you from operation. However I suggest you find a practitioner who does this method, so to supervise this process. It is better not to attempt it alone.
Remember this information, since is of absolute importance. This I discovered it myself and then after some months I have read it also in another article. Probably someone else discovered it also, before I discovered have discovered it.
REMEMBER THIS INFORMATION, SINCE YOU WILL RARELY SEE THIS INFORMATION, IN ANY WEBSITE AND THIS INFORMATION CAN SAVE YOU FROM VERY SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES, IN CASE A STONE IS STUCKED IN THE GALLBLADER DUCT.
HERE IS THE INFORMATION:
THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN DURING THIS FLASHING, IS THAT A STONE CAN STUCK IN THE GALLBLADDER DUCT. YOU WILL FILL A DULL CONTINUOUS PAIN BELOW YOUR RIGHT RIB. IF THIS STONE IS NOT MOVED OUT, THEN IT CAN CAUSE ICTERUS, WHICH IS A VERY SERIOUS CONDITION.
THUS IN CASE A STONE IS BEING STUCKED IN GALLBLADDER DURING A CLEANSING, SIMPLY IN FEW HOURS AFTER THE CLEANSING (ABOUT 2 TO 3 HOURS AFTER THE CLEANSING), DRINK ONE TABLE SPOON OF EPSOM SALTS AND THEN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR AFTER YOU DRINK EPSOM SALTS DRINK ONCE MORE OLIVE OIL WITH LEMON MIXTURE (SAME QUANTITY AS YOU USED BEFORE, ABOUT 4/5 OF A GLASS WITH OLIVE OIL AND 1/5 OF A GLASS WITH LEMON).
THIS METHOD OF USING AGAIN IN SOME HOURS EPSOM SALTS, OLIVE OIL AND LEMON IS NOT KNOWN FROM MANY PRACTITIONERS IN CASE A STONE GETS STUCK DURING CLEANSING, THUS HAVE IT IN MIND SINCE IT CAN REMOVE STONES THAT MAY BE STUCK IN GALLBLADDER DURING CLEANSING. LEARN WELL THIS METHOD. IT CAN SAVE YOU FROM AN OPERATION.
Also in case you would like to avoid the olive Oil, Lemon, etc. protocol, whether you have small or large stones in the gallbladder, you can use directly Chanca Piedra capsules, without any Olive oil, Lemon etc. protocol.
I just want to thank everyone who posted here because it gave me the courage to try the natural route rather than have surgery.
I started having a strange pain on my right side that I basically ignored for months until one day after eating lunch and having an alcoholic beverage, within 20-30 minutes I had pain under my rib cage that was a little more alarming. I immediately related it to the food. I finally went to the doc, he sent me for an u/s and confirmed multiple stones, one being as big as 2cm. He then referred me to a surgeon which I never went to because I started researching all I could about gallstones. I'm a big believer in natural remedies and before going the surgical route I like to try other things. I wasn't completely against it just seemed so definitive and I don't do well with being told to do things without good reason. Anyway long story short I never got the surgery, I am eating like I used to and I no longer have pain. I should add after finding out I had stones the pain did get worst at night and I couldn't sleep well. So here's everything I did asap and nothing is in particular order. I just threw everything I could at this.
- I stated drinking Chanca Piedra 1600mg 2 pills 2x's a day for up to 6 months.
- I changed my diet immediately! No greasy food, no fried food, no sugar, no alcohol, no rice, etc. I instead ate lean meat with raw salad. My salad consisted of kale, radishes, carrots, cucumber, tomato, red/yellow pepper. Radishes are good for this so I made sure to always eat that.
- I started drinking papaya juice and aloe juice mixed together with every meal. 1/2 cup of each 2-3's a day. I found this on this site, under pancreas ailments because I was also getting pain on the side of my pancreas so I wanted to fortify that. This also helps with digestion which your pancreas, liver and gallbladder all work together to do so I wanted to make digestion easy as possible.
- I started drinking a lot of ginger/turmeric tea and I would add 1 tbsp ACV to it. ACV is great if you start having pain. It settles it.
- I took a liver support supplement I found on amazon called Natures Craft Liver Support.
- Okay and lastly I did about 4 liver flushes using the Andreas Moritz method. I could have done more but my pain finally went away after the 4th one and I got lazy.
I should add that though I ate so many apples and apple juice before the flushes, and I would get temporary relief it wasn't until I used Malic Acid (500mg, 3x's a day=1500mg for 6 days before flush) instead for the 4th flush that one *large* stone came out and after that the pain finally was all gone.
Its been more than a year and I still have my gallbladder, no pain, I sleep well, and I am able to enjoy some of the yummy things I used to like doughnuts, chips, fried foods, alcohol. I do this in moderation now but before I couldn't eat any at all or I'd have pain. I still eat my salads consistently and occasionally take some Chanca Piedra. I continue to eat as healthy as possible.
I hope this helps you to not give up!
I'm almost crying here. Thank you very much for your article /cures/gallstones. Here goes... And I'll be sure to let you know how it does.. Again, THANK YOU
Banana Stem (available in Indian stores) is a great remedy for gallstones. Can be eaten raw or cooked. If eating raw, slice it thin and eat it. Remove the fibery stuff that comes when you slice.
Calamansi (Citrus Fruit)
I've tried gallbladder flushing before and yes it was effective. now I've discovered something easier, faster & cheaper. take one glass of hot water with 1 spoon of calamansi (small citrus fruit) which is abundant in my country or lemon, whatever is available in your country before going to sleep. the following day you will pass it melted. You will see it semi-liquid and dark green in color. Do it once or every other week. Keep healthy everyone :)
Castor Oil Packs
I followed the SAD diet guide lines for most of my life. NO SALT, no fats. BOY did I live to regret it. FOR ME, I am one who loves drinking LOTS OF water. COME to find out, I was flushing out my sodium and electrolytes daily. TOOK ME years to figure that out.
Eating no to low fat diet, my gallbladder became very, very sluggish and wouldn't work properly. So in 2005 Dr recommend me schedule a gallbladder removal. Scan showed me having 6 stones. I know 6 stones back then was NOTHING!! THEY love to yank out body parts on a whim with out any trying to save it. BOTH MOM and sister got out theirs and never the same since, always having diarrhea. I didn't want that life.
Feeling I caught it in time, I did save my gallbladder with 2 weeks of hour nightly HEATED CASTOR OIL packs and months of weekly use to maintain. Changed my diet to more grass fed butter grass fed beef and beef fat, and LOWER CARBS no gluten, no sugars or potatoes, PERIOD.
Here is is 2022 and still have my gallbladder. I do have some issues few times a year, but I have found Im pretty sure its histamine issues, happens with aged foods or shellfish. I now eat GLUTEN FREE, sugar free (use keto sugars instead) Low oxalate food and low histamine food.
Older I got the worse I felt eating those foods. Yeah, I mess up few times a year, but only proves to me, I am doing the right thing other wise.
Castor Oil Packs
My husband was rushed to the ER with extreme pain and said it was as severe a pain as a kidney stone he passed eight years earlier. A CT scan showed many gallstones, some too large to ever pass, and much inflammation. While existing on pain meds while waiting until Monday ( on a week-end of course) to see his doctor we remembered hearing about castor oil packs especially for gallbladder attacks. We got online and got instructions. He had three in two days and the pain had begun to fade by the end of the first treatment. No more pain and he followed up with another remedy: a daily glass of natural apple juice (the kind you can't see through) and a spoonful of virgin olive oil for a month. This happened in July 2009 and two physical exams since then have shown no problem at all. Hurray!
Castor Oil Packs, Pineapple Juice and Gallbladder Flushes
Recently I had an episode of bad heartburn, which, for me means I must need to do a gallbladder flush. (I used to have chronic heartburn/reflux which stopped completely after I completed a round of gallbladder flushes. Now I do them a few times a year as indicated by a return of heartburn.
I picked Wednesday of this past week to do the flush, but realized I didn't have a grapefruit in the house. Once I did lemon juice and olive oil for the flush but thought it tasted awful and not nearly as easy to get down as the grapefruit juice and olive oil.
I did have pineapple juice in the house and decided I would try that. I keep tweaking my gallbladder flush procedure to make it as tolerable as possible.
I think juices only on the day of the fast are ideal, but I needed more energy to function so I did have cream of wheat with blueberries for breakfast and a home-made non-fat pita for lunch. I drank carrot juice and pineapple juice.
I used the Epsom salt water at 7 and 9 pm.
At 11 pm I used 1/3 cup olive oil and 1/3 cup pineapple juice. VERY easy to get down and not bad tasting at all.
I used a castor oil pack over the liver overnight during the flush since that seemed to help a lot one other time.
Thursday I used Natural Calm to keep the flush going instead of Epsom salt. Epsom salt in the morning is nearly intolerable to me.
I had a very successful flush and got out a lot of stones. Seemed like more than a gallbladder's worth, so maybe some came from the liver?
Conclusions: Pineapple juice did not hinder and may have benefited the flush.
Castor oil packs overnight on the night of the flush do seem to benefit. Plus I sleep great with a castor oil pack. I didn't wake up until 5:30 in the morning. No discomfort.
~Mama to Many~
Hi Mama, did you use a heating pad with the castor oil pack? My understanding of a pack is simply castor oil soaked cotton or flannel placed on the body and secured with plastic wrap. Is that right? I've never tried it. Thanks :)
Yes - I use a heating pad with my castor oil packs. You aren't supposed use a heating pad overnight, but I do since mine only has a low setting.
Sometimes if I use a pack during the day I will just leave it in place and go about my normal activities without the heat. But the heat really helps.
~Mama to Many~
Hello my fellow suffers, I was experience pain at the same time night every few weeks a dull ache and pain nausea and low fever that lasted several hours but in the morning nothing like it was a bad dream. when to the doc who couldn't work out what it was after seeing 3 different ones who kept saying it as acid and prescribed me proton pump inhibitors which reduce acid and bile production, which I never took as I told them I did not suffer from indigestion or acid reflux, im not overweight generally eat healthy and exercise regularly male mid 40 so may be they didn't suspect anything? Then 3 months later had a gallstone attack freighting experience I thought I was going to meet my creator went to A&E did all the usual checks next day felt better so was being discharged when a senior indian nurse said do you have gallstones? didn't know anything about them so did research on line and as soon as read the symptom's BANG in knew it was gallstones, Doc arrange a scan which confirmed I had one 11mm stone and several others. Since the attack taking the apple cider vinegar apple juice and lemon milk thistle turmeric with a bit more healthy fresh fruit and veg no pain at night and 1 or 2 small attack's months apart felling 90% better and a lot fitter but have a slight soreness on my right side and gallbladder that wont completely go away, no matter what I take. After the docs found out they where gallstones they effectively would not offer me any treatment or medication other than removal of the gallbladder which im trying my very best to avoid, iv had a discussion with a particular doc twice and he says gallbladder is not needed and its a great operation to remove it and they will just keep coming back I keep saying to him why would I have this organ if was never needed in the first place? So I was getting a despondent with the situation of constant soreness and interment low pain after 5 months of ACV and lemon grapefruit ect the gallstones where still there presumable as docs wont do a second scan said the soreness is due to gallstone inflamtion I have NOT tried a the lemon and olive oil flush as it doesn't make sense to me as people have reported passing hundreds of stones some 1 to 3 inches in there stools how when the cystic duct is only 5 to 9 mm in diameter on average? Then I took CHANCA PIEDRA non alcoholic Tincture they recommend 5 to 10 drops twice a day in warm water I took 2 drops to test it, that night had a gallstone attack not a bad one but I passed a stone which I felt, I increased the dosage gradually increased to 5/7 drops over the next few days and when sleeping at night on my back felt what could only described as a train of stones or sludge moving down the cystic duct I am still passing them every now and again but the soreness hasten completely gone but do feel better. The CHANCA PIEDRA TEA is better for kidney stones and has the effect of lowering you blood pressure more than the Tincture dose.
Conclusion CHANCA PIEDRA REALY WORKS, however I would cleanse your body for at least a month before you take it. No alcohol which is probably the biggest cause of gallstones plenty of AVC lemon apple ect as you need to be in a position where your gallbladder and internals are healthy and can take the stones passing. Chanca Piedra works by increasing your bile flow and opening your ducts nobody really knows how it works it just dose God knows best, I don't know how many stones I've passed until I have a scan which I'm working on as the doc won't do it and is waiting for me with a scalpel in his hand so will update you. Be Gentle and Patient with your body it takes years sometimes to form gallstones so I can take time to heal Good Luck.
Question please? I have been expelling large and small gallstones for about a year.. I used the apple cider vinegar and apple juice and chanca piedra tea and some healing tea.. I feel like there were hundreds of stones .. only thing I'm wondering so many and so long coming out does my body just keep making them?? Thank you if anyone knows??
I will be interested to hear any other replies! Do you expel the stones during a gall bladder flush or are yours just passing with the Apple Cider Vinegar and Chanca piedra?
I used Apple Cider Vinegar daily for years for my digestion but they never got stones out.
I got many stones over the course of a few months during flushes. Now whenever I have a slight gall bladder twinge, I schedule another flush (about every 6 months.) Recently I was surprised to see a couple of the larger type stones. I too wondered, are these newly formed or old? I think I have read that once you empty the gall bladder of stones, stones from the liver can travel in to the gall bladder. Maybe it takes a while to get all of them from the liver and the gall bladder? But I have also wondered if I am just still making stones.
~Mama to Many~
Yes, your body keeps making stones. Most people have thousands of stones stored in the liver. The problems come when they are a little larger than the ducts they have to pass through, that's when the gall bladder/liver pain comes and GB/liver flushes are needed. Many people go through the life with no issues at all because the stones are small enough that they can pass through unnoticed. So keep going. I find for myself maintence cleanses are needed every other month in order to have normal liver/GB function.
No I only used the apple cidar vinegar and the tea.. I did not do any flushes at all. I also do lemons and water.... I still have some discomfort but not pain like I had.. funny you should say liver because at times I feel like I see liver stones too...thanks.
Bee: I once had the same problem and mostly resolved by taking Milk Thistle Seed. MTS is best taken with Turmeric Root and Artichoke Leaf.
Consider some Liver building nutrition like Raw or Cooked Chicken or Calf Liver. If you haven't any Mycoplasma infection, take an amino acid supplement of Arginine/Ornithine/Lysine. Since I got the myco I must drop the Arginine but don't function well at all without the Ornithine & Lysine. My Liver function goes flat without the formentioned.
Menthol Cough Drops, which also contain Eucalyptus, are my regular remedy for melting gallstones but if they get too many or too large the flush will be needed.
Not only mycoplasma but fungal infections in general cause increases in LDL Cholesterol and Gallstones so be sure to eliminate these pathogens as much as possible.
Thank you for the recommendations.. I am eating a lot of raw foods and its helping so I cant do chicken livers.. I am trying to always detox and it helps but it seems to be taking awhile or my body keeps making the stones.. the pain is almost gone now but I do feel stones at times.
I will do the MT as I am already doing the turmeric.. then I read turmeric causes stones. so much confusion.I will try the cough drops.. sounds easy enough.
Next I will work on the liver.. as far as fungus not sure since I eat organic raw fruits and veggies.. but I will def. check into it.
Thank you so much
The herbal combination of Milk Thistle/Turmeric/Artichoke is best, but for Liver/Gall, Artichoke alone is the best of the three. Dr Christopher's "Liver/Gallbladder" formula is excellent.
One of the side effects of low protein diet is the weak liver, so many vegetarians or vegans take Raw Bovine or Calf Liver Tablets. They are sold in most health food stores and have long been a favorite in those seeking strength or longevity as they are one of the superfoods. You must also consider the amino acid Ornithine; it helps me so much in the liver dept. Dr Balk says it is very important for metabolizing lipids in the liver.
A supplement of Choline/Inositol would also help.
Bee, too much estrogen can cause gallstones, bioidentical hormones. Increasing fiber removes excess estrogen as well as increasing progesterone. Exercise keeps things flowing to prevent the stagnation that causes the stones. Reduce stress - major difference, better sleep reduces stress, lack of sleep causes stones, too.
Thanks fmg and Mama and Tim for your kind responses and anyone else I missed.
Thanks for the info.. I will look into the bio identical hormones..
I do exercise as much as I can...sleeping is on and off and I do tai chi and meditate for stress but yes I do have stress..
Gallstones are caused by your liver. Attend to your liver.
All I can say is Thank you!!! Because it worked! But I also was taking 2T vinegar diluted in water three times a day, Chanca Piedra three times a day and lemon essential oil in a capsule twice a day during my apple fast diet. In-between apples I drank lots of apple juice. 10 hrs after the olive oil-grapefruit juice mixture I passed over 12 stones!
Those things you see "stones" that are floating are not gallstones. That is the olive oil that has solidified. Gallstones will only sink. So be sure, okay! I'm dealing with this problem now. So I understand what you're going through.
Hi, this may be a silly question but, how do you know if you've passed any stones?
I have one 6mm stone which causes me a lot of discomfort. I'm desperately trying to avoid surgery and want to know how to do it naturally. Many Thanks for any advice x
If you use the olive oil/lemon juice/garlic w/ magnesium sulfate cleanse, the stones appear as bright green pebbles floating in the toilet with your bowel movement the next day.
Google hulda clark liver cleanse. It's basically olive oil/lemon juice and epsom salts to relax the ducts and let the stones pass through. Works great.
Wow, I am happy you did not let that doctor operate on you. I would of DONE the same. Thanks for sharing this! God bless!
(Old Glory, Tx)
Good day everybody. I want to ask are there any herbs beside chanca piedra which has the ability to dissolve large gallstone?? I am very fortunate that there are many CP plant here in my place but the problem is, I have a low blood pressure & that is the reason why I cannot take CP decoction any further because CP is known to lower blood pressure. after 4 days of taking chanca piedra decoction, I can really feel that the stones are moving inside my liver but the problem is, I'm starting to feel nausea, difficulty in breathing, feeling loss of balance when I'm standing for a few minutes etc etc all which is a sign of extreme low blood pressure so I decided to stop taking CP tea. but my other problem now is, I'm not feeling good in my right chest area as if there's a blockage that needs to be released. maybe that stones that is being moved by CP is causing the blockage and maybe if I could only take CP, it will push the stones maybe outside the liver but I just can't take CP anymore because my blood pressure is 90/60. so please help me and give me advice on what to do next. is it true that holy basil has also the ability to dissolve gallstone because I've read somewhere in this website that it is also effective in dissolving gallstone and I have a holy basil in my garden.
I have seen Holy Basil mentioned in treating kidney stones. And some herbs will treat both. It seems worth a try since you have it in your garden!
Herbalist Philip Fritchie lists Butcher's Broom and Cascara Sagrada as being lithotriptic (stone dissolving) specifically for gallstones.
Cascara Sagrada can have quite the laxative effect, though. When I have taken it, I have taken it with ginger and and fennel. But still, start small with this herb.
Butcher's Broom I have taken alone for varicose veins and it never gave me any trouble.
~Mama to Many~
I just bought some chanca piedra since I am feeling some pain under my right breastbone.. it's 500 mg per capsule. I am currently taking 3 caps a day.. do you think that's enough to dissolve the stones?? how many a day is recommended? Please advise. thanks
This is excellent !!!
also...A-F betafood, by standard process is amazing for gallbladder health, sold mostly through chiro and N.D.s, helps digestion immensely, I have used it daily since 2010. Amazon sells it, read reviews, kinda spendy
I am eating lots of beets. I shred them and put Lemon juice and Olive Oil on them. When I think I am ready for a cleanse, I will take Apple Pectin, as that opens up the gallbladder duct. Beets and Lemon Oil is what many people have told me. Standard Process has a supp for Gallbladder and it contains beets! Also, I am told Sauerkraut juice. I am also taking B6 of 100mg and Magnesium Citrate, I think 400mg or so. I also have cut out almost ALL oils except Avocado Oil which bypasses the Gallbladder. Apple Juice/Apple cider is supposed to be good also. I was told today that the big Olive Oil and Lemon Juice flush doesn't really work. I respect this chiro doc as he is very informed. Mostly, need to support the Liver. The gallbladder doesn't make the stones, the Liver does.
This is for those with low blood pressure who would like to take chanca piedra: take 1 mg of licorice root with some warm water that has 1/2 to 1 tsp sea or Himalayan salt added. If planning to take the chanca piedra herb for length of period, please monitor blood pressure regularly to look for hypertension as licorice root will increase body salt retention. Adjust as neccessary.
An update on my situation. I have just had another scan which shows that the only change in my gallstone is that it has got bigger! It is now measuring 3.1cms. For the past three months I have been on an intensive protocol to help dissolve? break up the stone? However.... There has been no indication that the herbs have done anything! I have been using Gold Coin Grass as a tea and also a tincture. I have also been using Chanca Piedra as a tincture and also a tea and have just started a herbal supplement. Other things to help the situation.... Drinking lots of chamomile tea/lemon juice (helps to dissolve gallstones); dandelion coffee/beetroot (helps improve bile flow). Tamarind for gallbladder support.
Has anybody actually had any success with dissolving large gallstones using herbs? And how much of anything does one need to take for it to be effective. The Chanca Piedra (for instance) suggests just one 500mg capsule per day.
I did do one gb/liver flush a few weeks' ago and it was fine and the discomfort was better for a little while. However, I keep being advised not to attempt any flushes with such a large stone. Surgery would seem to be my only option.... which is sad when I have put so much effort into trying to keep the gb.
I'd appreciate any help.
(Rustenburg, North West, South Africa)
Hi Carole, I know that the liver flush removes g/stones, because I have done it numeruos times & it is quick & no fuss, just 2 days, Hulda Clarks method is simple & it works.
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
Carole: Is your GS a Calcium, Cholesterol, or mixed??? I have done several gb flushes over the yrs with many small and medium sized, but it was only about a yr ago I did a flush and passed a few small stones and one as large or larger than your 3cm. I was somewhat shocked at the size and that I had successfully passed it. It appeared to be mostly cholesterol but could have had some calcium, although I didn't closely examine. I don't do the passive method of simply laying down on the left side. I take a roll of toilet tissue (a few minutes fallowing the oil/lemon drink) place it directly over the gb, pull my thigh over the tissue, and squeeze quite hard (with help from hands n arms); wait a few minutes and repeat a few times. This active method literally "forces" the stone to pass.
Try this method in the early morning, and if in a rare occasion the stone gets stuck in the bile duct, you can make a quick dash to the emergency medical clinic for removal.
(Bury Village, West Sussex,, England)
Blimey Timh - you're brave! However, this is just the sort of support I need! People who have actually passed large stones. I am told mine is calcified. I am sure if it was cholesterol - then with the protocol I have been on - it would have changed.
I have been using beetroot; dandelion coffee; lecithin granules; tamarind; milk thistle; lemon juice; peppermint oil; chanca piedra; gold coin grass; chamomile..... All can dissolve calcified gallstones!
I just wonder if I need to be on higher doses? My CP capsules says one 50mg a day. However, an earlier post from Bill suggests 100mg x 3 times a day! A big difference. I'll have a talk through options with the herbalist/acupuncturist tomorrow. However, it is this lady who is cautioning me against flushing with such a large stone!
I won't give up yet. Thanks for your input.
I know your post is old, however what was your outcome? Did you have surgery? I've been doing everything you're doing since January 2015, I haven't had a cleanse yet to remove stones but taking all the same as you listed plus more to increase liver bile. I have a large stone over 2 cm plus smaller. I see a Alternative Health Dr as well. She wanted prepare my body before attempting a flush. I'm worried for stone to get stuck. Bile duct is normal no issues, gallbladder inflammation was .06 in January last week down to .02. Now I'm worried all the expenses to go natural vs surgery. I hate thought surgery but what point do people just do it? I cannot drink a lot of apple juice it gave me full body over load of yeast, so Malic Acid tablet plus eat pears and apples. So any other great cleanses without drinking Apple juice week before or day of would be appreciated. Thanks Everyone
I'm in the same boat as you. Scanned proof of a 2.5 cm stone in my gall bladder. I have been searching for ways to remove it and have also been advise not to do a flush, as the stone is too big. I'm now basically vegan and taking liberal amounts of apple cider vinegar and apple juice. also been told fragrant herbs in cooking is good along with tea's such as peppermint and dandelion. My search about chanca piedra brought me here. I am very interested to hear your experience and others also.
Hi Jeanette. Gallstones
I will share a story with you..I was having really bad pain in my gallbladder so assuming they were stones.. I like you did not want to do a whole flush so instead I did the apple juice in the ACV and also lemons.. Then I drank two or three cups of the chanca piedra tea maybe every two days.. Well I have been eliminating stones; a lot of stones.. large ones that I couldn't believe and small ones.. I must have had over 100 stones;maybe more.. The pain now is down to a one from over a ten ... I believe the stone breaker tea (chanca piedra) really does break up the stones and the ACV and apple juice loosens up the stones.. I am shocked myself that this really works.. I got the tea from Amazon or Sunfoods sells it also..
Could you please tell me which brand you bought?
Just wanted to say that I have been using Chanca Piedra for 2 years and it should be the first option in my opinion. I have used high doses of vit C as well as Chanca Piedra, lethicin, and magnesium for gallstones. I tried many things but Chanca and vit C would be my first move as well as lethicin and magnesium. Also I started to lessen the chanca after some time and added biotin and fenugreek which is good for diabetes as well. Of course a healthy diet and lower fat intake is a must. Having gone through the attacks and what I call the heats, I wouldn't be without the Chanca and C. It took me 6 months to find out about these supplements and I hate to see someone else suffer needlessly. I used the 400 mg of Chanca 3x's a day till relief then cut back to once a day, maybe 2 if I had any fatty meal or snacks, I love walnuts. And I started out at 1000 mg of C 3x's a day, probably could take more. Somebody advised me on the C and I believe that to be a huge help too. Taurine is something to look into as well. Hope this helps someone as well, the cleansing did not help me so this was a blessing when I got this info.
Hi. I have heard about chanca piedra being quite effective for gallstones. However, no one tells you what type of gallstone it will dissolve. Do they mean the calcified kind, or the cholesterol kind of gallstone? Thanks.
Hi Wyandatte. (Canada)
I had tons of gallstones.. I have no idea which kind they were but they were very painful.. I first did the apple cidar vinegar and apple juice to loosen them up and then drank a few cups of the chanca piedra tea most days.. I expelled some huge stones .. I couldn't believe how big they were.. I expelled lots of broken up stones..and small stones.. all kinds of stones and some other weird stuff lol...Anyway; its been three months and my pain as of today is either a one or not here at all.... I don't know if calcified stones pass through but at that point I didn't care. I was willing to take the chance and get these painful stones out...
Kidney stones will be in your urine. Gallstones will be in your stool.
Just an update. I have changed up things a bit over the past two years and ox bile has really helped. I believe it helps with sludge. I take a 5000 iu with fattier meals and a 1000 with less fatty meals. Taking without fat will give you diarrhea. I still take C and occasionally use chanca piedra as a cleanout. I was taking the AF supplement but this works better. If I feel pain I take more, less when I don't. I can eat regular meals again, dessert etc. But I try to eat healthy with good fats. Someone did a study that I can't find, showing highest percentages of food causing attacks, I believe they were eggs, pork and full fat dairy. Fried foods are bad as well. I know, eggs, pork, butter, cheese and fried foods are the worst for me, I rarely ever eat eggs now. I can eat butter and cheese now with the bile supplement. Hope that helps someone, wish I knew about ox bile 10 years ago.
Several years ago I had an ultrsound done and they found that I have four large gallstones about 2cm in size. Of course my doctor wanted me to have my gallbladder taken out but I would not consent. Over the years I have done numerous liver/gallbladder flushes but these gallstones are to big to flush. I would like to dissolve them and I want to find out what the best formula for doing this is. I am not only interested in the formula/substance but also want to know the science behind how it works.
A friend of mine who is into natural remidies recomended a South American herb called Chanca Piedra which he said translates as "break stone. " I can't find any dosage information or instructions on the most effective way to use it. I have made tea with it but am considering putting it into capsules. If you have information regarding this herb and the most effective way to take it I would be interested. I am also interested if you know of any other substance that would dissolve these monster stones I have.
(Toronto, On, Canada)
L. M. I have been using the Chanca Piedra from AOR for about 2 weeks now and about 90% of the symptoms are gone. I take one capsule 3 times a day on an empty stomach.
Chanca Piedra, is Phylanthus Niruri. It is the stonebreaker.
The annual herb Phyllanthus niruri is best known by the common names Stonebreaker(Eng. ), Chanca Piedra(Sp. ) and Quebra Pedra(Port. ), Seed-Under-Leaf(Eng. ) but has many other common names in assorted languages, including dukong anak, dukong-dukong anak, amin buah, rami buah, turi hutan, bhuiaonla, Meniran (Indonesia), (Malayalam) and / Keela Nelli (Tamil). The herb is known as Nela Nelli in Kannada and "Nela Usiri" in Telugu. It is a widespread tropical plant commonly found in coastal areas. It is a relative of the spurges, belonging to the leafflower genus of Family Phyllanthaceae.
I should say about this herb. Phylanthus Niruri, used to grow in abundance around my house in India. I used to pluck and eat it just like that during my childhood.
This is the top most potent herb for liver than Milk Thistle or any other herb. It is used in Unani, Ayurvedha, Siddha herbal medical system for more than 5000 years. If possible, you can contact any Indian herbal practitioner for accurate dosage.
Himalaya company also sells P. Niruri capsules. You can follow their dosage.
You can start with 2 capsules per day. If you want to be very safe then eat 2 tsp of chywanprash which contains Phylanthus Niruri (chanca piedra) and many other herb for your whole body.
One more info, Phylanthus Niruri is extremely potent and Heat(in ayurvedic and Siddha theory)Producing herb, so don't over use it. EC, pls don't mention this as a side effect because there will be no side effect by using this herb other than it is heat producing.
*Heat is the body's fire - Pitta (fire/water)
Even I am going to start eating this herb occassionaly for general health.
Hope this helps someone.
It works. Softens stones to pass them .
Chanca Piedra, ACV
On April 23,2017 I first went to the Emergency Room with significant pain in my upper back about at the level of my shoulder blades. The initial diagnosis was a bladder infection that later proved to be incorrect. I spent the next week in bed taking pain killers which exceeded the dosage I was used to taking and only lasted barely 3 hours before the pain resumed. The following Sunday, April 30th I again went to the Emergency Room and had 2 MRIs and an untrasound. The diagnosis was gall stones. The stones were not blocking any tubes so emergency surgery was not necessary.
I went to my primary care doctor the following Tuesday with the diagnosis. The recommended treatment plan was surgery. A good friend referred me to Earthclinic.com where I familiarized myself with the recommendations for non-surgical alternatives.I started immediately with Stone Breaker capsules 3 times a day. I drank copious amounts of organic, unfiltered apple juice. I also took unfiltered apple cider vinegar and then switched to apple cider vinegar pills also 3 times a day. Within a few days I had no more pain. I did the flush recommended on Earthclinic and other sites twice one month apart. Apart from a good cleansing, I noticed no 'stones' being eliminated. By the end of May, I was taking the Stone Breaker caps and apple cider vinegar pills twice a day. I had added Chanca Piedra extract along with essential oils of cinnamon, ginger, and clove in juice once a day.Last Tuesday October 10th, I had a CT scan of the abdomen for another reason. The results came back with no issues with the liver, pancreas, spleen or other abdominal organs. No mention was made of any kind regarding gall stones.
Therefore I am a believer. Happy to have my gall bladder intact and happy to be living pain free with no significant change in diet.