I am 32 male and have been diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis two years ago, although I have negative rheumatoid factors.
Symptoms: Swelling and stiffness in multiple joints on both sides of the body
First sign of symptoms: December 2009 - No swelling, however was getting sore wrists
March 2009: Symptoms were getting really bad and had first appointment with Rheumatologist.
I have tried and persisted on all the natual remedies with no luck (ACV, wheatgrass, raw juicing, exercise, baking sode with lemon, fish oil, msm, tumeric, flaxseed oil etc.).
I have been researching Stem Cell therapy using the adipose stromal vascular fraction method. Basically taking fat via lipo from your own body then a process of separation of stem cells takes place and are reinjected into either the problem joint and or via IV back into your blood stream.
Pricing ranges from $8k - $20k AUD around the world for the procedure and you can also freeze or you need another session later.
Please let me know any of your comments around a durable long term drug free remission for this procedure. You may know someone or tried it yourself. Apparently they are claiming the stem cells give immunotherapy benefits by being able to re-regulate the immune response and shut down the overactive auto immune state.
I am thinking of getting it done, as Methotrexate is my next option (take sulfasalazine only) which we know has its own issues, or although with natural remedies will give me my life back and protect the longer term damage.
I hope if you are facing something similar that you keep your chin up, as I know what you are going through.
Regards, Cekm
Sounds like you got Lyme disease/fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue syndrome. Apparently caused by some kind of poison, like fluoride or mercury, in your tissues. Poly-Arthritis is a symptom, not a cause. Treat for the cause.
I gave this information to Margaret recently; see if it fits you:
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"Margaret;
Poly-myalgia is sometimes a result of fluoride poisoning. Did she by any chance take a prescribed anti-biotic, like cipro, etc, etc, just before getting the symptoms ? [contains fluoride]
Some anti-depressants also contain fluoride. , I think. Many other drugs do contain it also, a long list. Pesticides contain it. Rat poisons contain it. City water supplies contain it.
........... check all her medications to see if they are made/contain from fluoride, in any form.
If so, she must detox from it.
Research fibromylgia, lyme disease, CFS, treatment protocols."
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read the earthclinic. com article on fluoride as cause of lyme disease.
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Wow you are right, I was given antibiotics two years ago and then after this for some reason BANG life has been a misery. I am going to ring the doctor to find out what he gave me, but life has been a disaster even since. How do I get the fluoride out of my body?
Cheers, Cekm
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I have been caring for a family member who also has been plagued with the "poly-arthralgia" [= roving joint pains], tendon soreness, mucle soreness, joint soreness, CFS = chronic fatigue syndrome, and for awhile, colitis, or IBS, connected to wheat gluten sensitivity, which was also brought on by the fluoride poisoning process. Also developed rickets of the bones, or osteomalacia. And no doubt osteo-penia and osteo-porosis. Sudden onset about 3 years ago. Probable cause of fluoride poisoning, possibly from a fluoride based rat poison, or insecticide; from a suspicious source.
We stumbled around in the wilderness of the germ theory of disease for about 6 months while the disease symptoms got worse and worse, and the rickets/osteo-malacia set in, as the fluoride caused the calcium to be ravaged from the bones, as the body attempted to save the poisoned one's life by sacrificing the bones calcium stores to keep the blood's pH within the narrow pH range of the living.
After failing to get any relief by playing the germ-theory game, I eventually stumbled upon the fluoride theory of arthritis, poly-arthritis, LYMES disease, CFS, FMS, osteo-malacia, rickets, osteo-porosis, IBS, alzheimers, etc., etc.
One of the chief sources of information on this was from a article by a JASON UTLEY. https://www.earthclinic.com/CAUSE_OF_FIBROMYALGIA.pdf ..... , or: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/fibromyalgia.html#cause ....... and then many other new sources I found on the internet, by search engine searches using "fluoride", fluoride poisoning" , "fluoride arthritis" etc.
As to how to detox from fluoride, I would get calcium and magnesium and sodium minerals, and others, into my blood to try to quench the fluoride atoms from acid-ifying the blood. Choose the ionic forms of these minerals, that dissove in water, and are capable of donating their electrons to the blood chemistry, for use in quenching and neutralizing the fluoride ions. Go to this page, and read Bangkok Ted's ideas on using borax, baking soda, and lemon juice to neutralize the fluoride ions in the blood : Earth Clinic remedies to Remove Fluoride Poisoning and Buildup.
www.earthclinic.com/cures/fluoride.html
......... Do a search on earthClinic.com for "fluoride" and one on "fibromyalgia" also. Read up on all these ideas.
This should get you started on learning what to do.
The things I am told that can help remove fluoride from the body are: iodine, borax, cilantro herb as food, blood alkalyzing minerals, sea salt minerals.
The best symptom relief method I have seen work is the taking of hot water soaks in a bathtub, for about 30 minutes per treatment. using 1 quart of EPSOM SALTS and 1 tablespoon of BORAX, in the soak water..... For relief of arthritis & fibromyalgia symptoms. At least temporarily.
After the fluoride ions are removed: To undo the damage caused by the fluoride poison on the bones & cartilidges & muscles might take months & years of nutritional type supplementation, or special diets; I think.
I hope this helps you some.
Above all, learn all the possible sources of this poison.
note: bromide is a close cousin to fluoride, and is capable of causing most or all of the same damages. So you could also be suffering from bromide toxicity symptoms also. It is in the food supply also.
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If you are having trouble believing that hidden toxins can cause degenerative diseases; note that the powers that be teach that the disease of polio is caused by a germ, a biotic, a virus. They teach it so you will believe it. The historical evidence is that it is caused by a toxin called DDT. Polio never existed before DDT existed. [ circa 1890's] When DDT was banned as a insecticide in the USA, new cases of polio began fading away there.
the powers that be claimed that some injected monkey pus [or something similar] caused it to go away. No giant corporations that sold DDT were ever held liable in the courts for giving anyone polio. No profits were lost. Brain-washing successful. Thank you, scientists;... Here is some money.... We will just call it "research" money. [wink, wink]
Fluoride is similar. The carnage it creates is similar. Go on some of the LYME disease message boards on the w.w.w. and read some of these people's stories. Some of them choose to commit suicide rather than go on.
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I've had RA for over 40yrs and have tried so many "new" programs I sometimes feel like a lab rat I received your name from one of the many people who trust you and shared the methylene blue I would like it if you'd look over my program and give me your opinion I am not asking you for medical advise just your opinion please I really could use the help.Methylene blue 1% 6 drops 2Xday
Jarrow Bone-up
C-1000 2Xday
Turmeric 500 2Xday
just stared yesterday: ACV 1tbps & baking soda 1/2 tsp 2Xday
Thank you and looking with hope for your opinion
namaste~
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EC: Hi Tina,
Working on it, thanks for the suggestion!
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A friend of mine has Rheumatoid Arthritis believed to be genetic in nature. Would you please send one of your amazing cures for this disease. Thank you for all of your wonderful posts, they give us so much help and hope.
Good Luck and God Bless,
Carolyn
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This doctor believes a virus is at the root of RA... He is helping people with Lysine and B Vitamins. Of course, you must actually be absorbing the B vitamins and if you're stomach acid is too low, you will end up with terrible deficiencies.
Betaine HCL solves this - take after meals.
Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
I'm 60 and been in great health all my life and only since last year has this pain started.
Looking for the right combination of herbs etc to fight this thing.
Thanks, Bill
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EC: Hi Ru, can you please tell us exactly what supplements and special diets you tried?
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Sorry to hear about your RA pain. I watched "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" and it teaches how the body can heal itself if we stop poisoning it with sugar, processed junk and avoid dairy, grains and nightshades. My labs improve and my swollen joints improve when I stay on a raw food diet, not raw meat, raw fruits and vegetables.Try eating just raw fruits and vegetables for two weeks and you will see and feel an improvement. I like high dose of vitamin c for my choice of supplements. Hope you feel better.
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Garlic
Just wanted to note that the above part is untrue. It is actually best to let chopped or minced garlic sit for 10 minutes or so before eating or cooking with it. Garlic does not actually contain allicin as such - it is formed when the garlic is cut or crushed and it takes time to maximize. Google for many references to this. Here's just one (this one recommends 5-10 minutes sit time; others say 10 minutes minimum):
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EC: Probably using 3% peroxide. Please see EC's ear wax and h2o2 page for more info..
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And the iodine supplement should be a combination of elemental iodine and iodide compound such as potassium iodide. Lugol's liquid and iThroid capsules are good examples. Lugol's is cheaper, obviously because it's just a bottle of liquid, without all the capsules.
What brand of iodine are you taking to relieve your pain? How many milligrams of iodine does that equal?
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I really need help because at the moment 1 am always in pain.
Thank you
Yuneti
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Check out Honkanen V, Konttinen YT, Sorsa T, Hukkanen M, Kemppinen P, Santavirta S, Saari H, Westermarck T: Serum zinc, copper and selenium in rheumatoid arthritis. J Trace Elem Electrolytes Health Dis 1991, 5:261-263.
Also, there has been some success in treating RA with drugs that LOWER copper in the blood. Look at, for example, http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/510818
So giving copper to a RA patient who is already above normal in copper, is maybe worse than giving them calcium. I would say it is asking for trouble. Two months later the swelling in my wife's hand caused by a copper bracelet still hasn't come down.
Plus, if you really want to experiment with the possibility of destroying your health then just go to some hardware store and get some copper wire and wrap it around your wrists. It will only cost a dollar, instead of the 30 dollars or so for an expensive ornament. But I'd say, don't do that. Resist the temptation to look elegant. Take care of your health instead and don't even think of supplementing copper if you have RA. (Maybe osteo arthritis is different?)
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EC: 1 star for the remedy, not for the post.
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I will attempt to reply to both here on the RA disease portion, since any immune imbalance that can be corrected will also likely help the other problems. First, RA is classed as an autoimmune disease, where the body's own antibodies are found to be attacking "self" cells and tissues.
Here is an overall basic diagram of the entire human immune system, showing the TH1 and TH2 sub-branches over on the left:
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309057973/xhtml/images/p20007cc6g432001.jpg
First question is when does the immune system not perform at good efficiency and balance, and the answer is 'when the terrain (body and all tissues) are ACIDIC'! So the very condition that allows diseases to invade prevents proper optimal functioning of immunity. That must be made right, back to an alkaline state, otherwise many remedies just won't take.
Best, simplest and cheapest remedy by far for restoring a high= alkaline pH is given by Ted here, under BICARBONATE FORMULA:
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/lemons.html#bicarbomateformula
On to some RA remedies, French Maritime Pine bark extract aka Pycnogenol, or GSE instead:
http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/arthritis/pycnogenol-help-sufferers-knee-osteoarthritis-01022.html
When I asked him to elaborate, he told me that he'd never used grape seed extract (GSE) to treat arthritis because he'd never heard of using either GSE or Pycnogenol for arthritis symptoms. Dr. Spreen: 'My comment was due to the fact that, 1) Pycnogenol is expensive, and 2) grape seed extract (much cheaper and more ubiquitous) has been found to supply the same active ingredients. Both are famous for their antioxidant properties. '
Both contain about 40 similar compounds classed as OPCs, by the way as the active ingredients. Dr. Spreen noted that he would recommend 200mg per day of GSE, ...
Next possible nutrient to try for the RA is "ORGANIC GERMANIUM, aka Ge-132":
http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1987/pdf/1987-v02n02-p083.pdf
Note this article is from 1987! It's been quite well researched in Japan. It is very widely available on the net health stores and locally.
Third possibility is plant sterols/sterolins, available generically. Based on the biological activities described above, most studies to date have investigated the ability of plant sterols to control inflammation or induce a shift from a predominantly humoral immune response to a more protective cellular response (i. E. TH2 to TH1 shift)
These supplements take time, 1 to 3 months, and as shown may give only a percentage improvement. There's also possibility #4 niacinamide, widely available and cheap. There is a post under 'Trigger Finger' from OCT 5 on it for arthritis. Dosage is in there, too:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/trigger_finger.html#gf_47032
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Juicing will greatly help RA pain, especially if you can do it for a week, just drink fresh juices.
Shilajit
Thanks, Rain
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