Natural Rheumatoid Arthritis Treatment

| Modified on Sep 13, 2021

Lemon Peel and Olive Oil
Posted by Rob (Kentucky) on 11/18/2020
5 out of 5 stars

Lemon Peel/Olive oil (This has worked for me every time I use it. I currently use this formula for hip pain (RA), knees and toes. It works great)

This recipe can be found on the internet in various forms but the ratio's are wrong and it take 2 weeks to complete. Well, I don't have 2 weeks to wait so here is the method I use to speed the process up.

Lemon peel and Olive oil ointment can be used topically to massage into painful joints anywhere on the body, arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis (RA), gout, frozen shoulder, varicose veins/poor circulation of the arms and legs, skin fungal, viral and bacterial issues, ringworm (fungal), shingles (viral), skin burns, cellulite, chickpox sores (viral), chiliblains, cold sores, mouth ulcers and fever blisters (viral) of the mouth, diabetic neuropathy, eczema/psoriasis, foot and hand care, rubbed on forehead for headache/migraine/fever, inflammation, insect bites, nail health, phlebitis/thrombosis for the legs (together with internal use), respiratory problems, and many others.

The phenols in the olive oil will coat and fight inflammation, while the other ingredients go to work on pain and inflammation and the root cause of the problem.

To use lemon peels to fight the pain of inflammation. Inflammation in the body is the cause of much pain and illness. Inflammation means that the body's blood vessels are dilated and swollen. This swelling leads to redness, pressure, stiffness and pain. Although pain can be felt anywhere in the body, most commonly the pain of inflammation is felt in the joints. Joint pain can occur in any part of the body that has bone to tissue connection. That means that any one of the 360 joints in your body could be experiencing the pain of inflammation. Lemon peel can be taken internally and eaten, however, the benefits from the pain-relieving properties of the peel are believed to be best absorbed externally through the skin. Some compounds found in lemon peel cannot be passed to the bloodstream through digestion.

Nutritional Value Of Lemon Peel

Lemon peel contains 5 to 10 times more nutrients and minerals than does the juice. It contains Calcium. Iron. Magnesium. Phosphorus. Potassium. Sodium. Zinc. Copper. Selenium. vitamin C. Thiamin. Riboflavin. Niacin, Pantothenic acid. vitamin B6. Folate. vitamin A and vitamin E.

Lemon peel and Olive oil for joint pain relief

When you apply this remedy made with olive oil and lemon peel topically to the affected area, it will help improve your circulation in order to provide joint pain relief. One of the most overlooked benefits of lemons is that they can help prevent joint pain.

*The ingredients are chock-full of nutrients that reduce inflammation, pain, and stiffness.

*Also, the lemon peel contains substances like limonene, citronella and phellandrene, 3 essential oils that help relax muscles and joints, helping with any difficulty moving.

*The extra virgin olive oil contains antioxidants oleocanthal acid and omega 3 fatty acids, well-known for their ability to help painful, inflamed tissues.

*Together, these ingredients improve cellular oxygenation processes while optimizing the transportation of nutrients to your joints, a determining factor in preventing the breakdown of cartilage.

*However, it's also worth mentioning that the remedy helps stimulate your lymphatic system, a key factor in removing toxins that play a role in the pain.

*Additionally, applying it using massaging motions helps flush out retained fluids, and as if that weren't enough, prevents the accumulation of uric acid.

Rob's Quick and Dirty Recipe


*Extra virgin olive oil

*6 - 7 lemons

*Eucalyptus oil (try your mixture with or without eucalyptus to see which works better for you)

*One quart mason jar with lid


*Clean gauze



*Using a potato peeler, peel all the yellow/white (the pith) parts off the lemons. Then, place the lemon peels in a blender and add enough olive oil to cover them completely. 1:4 lemon peels to olive oil ratio is what I use. Blend the lemon peels/olive oil together. I use the pulse setting on my blender. You will want to blender it to the texture of apple sauce.

*Next, pour the mixture into the mason jar. Top off the mason jar with olive oil to about 2 inches from the rim.

*Place the mason jar into a pot filled with water on the stove. Add a mason jar ring or rolled up pieces for aluminum foil underneath the mason jar so it dose not make contact with the metal pot. Slow simmer the jar in a warm/hot bath for about 6 hours. Stir mixture with a butter knife every hour. Keep a check on the water level and add more water as needed. After 6 hours, turn off stove and allow to cool to room temperature.

*Stir mason jar and pour out one tablespoon into a small bowl then add the eucalyptus oil (10 drops per tablespoon of oil added to the finished ointment).

*Soak some gauze and place it over the painful area. Ideally you should apply this treatment at night, so that the ointment can soak into the skin while you sleep. Use it just like a Castor oil Pack.

Warning: Lemon contain natural molecules that react with UV light and cause a sensitivity reaction and a special type of sunburn. Essential oil companies often label their products that contain these compounds with a warning to avoid direct sun/UV light to the area for 12–48 hours after applying.

How to apply

*First, submerge a gauze bandage into the mixture and then apply it to the affected joint.

*Next, cover the gauze with plastic wrap, and then, if possible, with a wool scarf.

*Then, let the oil work overnight for best results.

*Next, apply every night until you get relief from the pain.

*As a preventative remedy, apply at least 3 times a week.

If you would like an even more relaxing effect for joint pain relief, heat the oil by putting the jar in a bowl of hot water before applying it. But remember to check the temperature to make sure it won't burn your skin. Additionally, you can use it to massage your joints, especially if the pain is due to fatigue or fluid retention.

Supplements, Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Idit (Israel) on 08/17/2020

Can you provide an update?

Sesame Oil Massage
Posted by Lori (Johnstown Pa) on 12/20/2018

What you are looking for is the Tetracycline cure. Go to a site called "The Road " and it will direct you to what you need. Amazon carries the original book and then there is a new updated RA arthritis book where they use minocycline which is more effective. You can seek out Drs in your area that use this protocol. I have not tried not myself but it is a low dose long term treatment to kill the infection they believe causes it. Good Luck

Dietary Changes
Posted by Sharon (Tennessee) on 12/06/2018
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I have had RA for about 12 years and I've found that if I don't eat wheat or sugar, I have no pain at all. Also, everything I read about RA says to drink green tea, that it's so good for healing, but I find if I drink green tea, my feet start hurting within 10 minutes. Sugar seems to be the culprit in arthritis pain, at least for me....

Posted by Denise (Us) on 11/17/2018 56 posts

Hi Melanie,

Ted's remedies are at this link. I am fairly new here so I can't tell you much other than he has given tons of information for us to study. Others than know him better can tell you much more than I. Here's the link;) I've already used several of his suggestions myself:

Posted by Melanie (Ireland) on 11/16/2018

HI, just wondering who the TED you referred to is please?!! would be interested to read about his dosage recommendations and any accompanying research, many thanks in advance!

Rheumatoid Arthritis and UTI Connection
Posted by Anne (Laguna Niguel) on 10/01/2018

I have had about 8 UTIs since my RA diagnosis. What is interesting is I used the Sea Salt remedy from EC for my UTI and my arthritis felt so much better the next morning. My RA has deformed some of my joints so it's pretty bad. I also can not eat sweets, dairy, grains, corn, nightshades or beef. The one teaspoon of sea salt in a glass of water with a squeeze of lemon seemed to help both UTI and RA. I did eat 70% raw yesterday which always helps me. Eat your Greens!!!

Dietary Changes
Posted by Sharon (Tn) on 09/13/2018
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I have had RA for 12 years, and I've found that if I don't eat sugar and/or wheat, I have NO pain. No kiddin....

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Steve (Uk) on 08/30/2018

Arthritis is usually a missing nutrient ...Boron, you need to supplement that 3mg per day! Auto immune can be whats called Leaky Gut Syndrome ... damage to the walls of the gut allowing undigested matter straight into the blood system! You would need to consider parasite infection, toxic substances, acidic processed foods etc! However you might find that the Boron will give massive relief on its own though everyone and their conditions are different ... what works well for one might not work so well for another!!!!

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Stacey (British Columbia) on 08/12/2018

What HP mixture was used for his ears?

EC: Probably using 3% peroxide. Please see EC's ear wax and h2o2 page for more info..

ACV and Baking Soda, MSM, Mag Citrate
Posted by Marilyn H. (Lakewood, Ca) on 05/01/2018

Could be the fungus that grows on the grains could be causing the arthritis?

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Robert (Texas) on 04/19/2018

To the lady with HCV, I would recommend you try MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement)

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Conchita (Orlando, Florida ) on 04/12/2018

Are you drinking the ACV and water or using it topically on the ankle? You should be taking approx 2 teaspoons of ACV per day, by mouth, water is optional.

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Shannon (Williston, North Dakota) on 03/03/2018

Are you still doing this.. post is pretty old, I have Psoriatic arthritis.. Shannon

Rheumatoid Arthritis and UTI Connection
Posted by Jacki (Foley, Al) on 02/04/2018

I am a 49yr old female who has naturally combated RA without pharmaceuticals for 8+ years, while also having UTI's a few times each year.
My most recent RA flare-up has been the worse and I'm now seeing minor deformaty in fingers of both hands. Otherwise, very healthy and good weight/hight ratio.

If additional information is known about the connection between these two conditions or have treatment/natural remedy recommendations, will you please advise?

Dietary Changes
Posted by Annie (Orange, Ca) on 12/10/2017
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I responded to dietary changes too. My frozen elbow (over a year not straightening it) has full range of motion now! My RA is painful but much improved with diet change. I do best eating greens, such as salads. I avoid most grains and dairy like the plague. No joke. Juicing fruit and veggies or going to Nektar every other day is helping me A LOT!! I am not taking those creepy biologics anymore, too many scary side effects. If you have Rheumatoid try this :green salads every day with a little chicken and rice, eat this for a week, then add in foods slowly and see how your body responds. & Ask God for a healing.

Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Valerie (New Zealand) on 10/28/2017

I suspect with excess calcium in the body that a simple solution is getting Vitamin D levels checked or 25OHD, as too little vitamin D will cause the parathyroid to be one hyperactive which causes calcium to be taken from bone into the blood increasing the chances of excess calcium in joints, kidney stones etc. Solution: get out in the sun more and take D3 during winter.

Posted by Dennis (Colorado, Usa) on 10/19/2017

Been wearing copper bracelets for years on both wrists, and yes they help, but I still have pain, in fact lately a lot of pain. so I am going to try Hydrogen peroxide and other dietary regimes, any suggestions?? thanks, Professor Sprouts

Dietary Changes
Posted by Martha (Florida) on 10/17/2017
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I was diagnosed with RA 10 years ago, and the Doctor wanted me to go on a Steroid and a drug that would cause me to have my kidney, liver and bone marrow checked often. SO after much research I found your website, while reading, I discovered that "some" people can come down with an allergy to nightshade vegetables, which mimics RA. So I quit tomatoes, peppers and eggplant immediately, and started ACV and honey mixed with water 3 times a day and after a week all my symptoms disappeared. I now only have to take it occasionally if I eat something with peppers or tomatoes, I never eat eggplant, it's easy to avoid. But I don't see any posts or information about this allergy to nightshades on your site anymore?

Posted by Veronica (Tilbury, Ontario, Canada) on 09/29/2017
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My husband and myself have started drinking one 500 ml of borax water a day. My husband uses 1/4 teaspoon mixed into 1 500 ml of bottled water. I take 1/8 teaspoon mixed into 1 500 ml of bottled water and have been doing so for a little over a week and the results already are amazing. We drank this for 5 days in a row and go off 2 days. I suffer from RA (autoimmune disease) OA, fibro and a small list of other ailments. To make a long story short we are both feeling amazing and not only the swelling but the pain has subsiding immensely. We will both continue on this regium for life!

Apple Cider Vinegar, Dietary Changes
Posted by Dona (San Kose, Ca) on 09/20/2017
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I have RA, and I tried everything. Out of all what I've tried these what have helped me: Low Dose Naltrexone (this drug has hardly any side effects, and a cheap drug. It helps the body to heal itself). I started taking Raw organic apple cider vinegar with honey & water a few days ago. I can see the swelling & pain on my fingers & wrists improved a lot. I believe it has to do with ACV. If it is that, taking ACV would be the biggest thing that helped me so far; I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

The other things have helped me were not eating gluten, following sort of ketogenic diet (eating very less carbs), and getting 8 hour sleep, taking early dinner, and doing regular mild to moderate exercise. Hope this would help for all out there looking for help. All the best for a quick remission!

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
Posted by Chicaria (Montana) on 07/22/2017
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I have a question regarding the ACV, honey and baking soda tonic. I started drinking it last week and began with just ACV and honey. I couple days later I added in the baking soda and it neutralized the tartness/tang of the vinegar making the tonic very palatable. My question is does the baking soda also neutralize the effects of the ACV as I have not had any relief from my RA... but then again I have only been taking it for about 5 days. Any thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Posted by Art (California ) on 07/03/2017 928 posts

In reply to Shaz (Nsw Australia),

I have a friend who tried borax for his arthritis and it had no effect at all in terms of reduction of symptoms, but he did get other health benefits from it so he has continued to take it everyday. People here on EC have reported as much in the past. Apparently arthritis can have more than one cause and I imagine it is possible to have two different causes at the same time or in close proximity to each other and borax does not seem to be able to deal with all causes even though many people report benefit, as you already know.

Many people believe that a mycoplasma organism may be one cause, but if this is correct, there are at least 17 of these that have been isolated through research and I doubt that borax could be effective against all and this may be a contributing factor as to why borax does not offer any help for some people with arthritis.

There is not much research in terms of borax and arthritis other than the original work done by Dr. Rex Newnham and of course Ted who advocated a higher dose than Dr. Newnham. You didn't say what dose you are taking. Are you taking Ted's recommended dose or Dr. Newnhams?

Dr. Newnham's dose was not fully effective for me over time, but Ted's dose has been effective for me for years.


Posted by Shaz (Nsw Australia) on 07/02/2017
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RA: Used borax drink for 6 months, was in remission. Now it's not working, any ideas as to why? Plz and thank you.

Posted by Milton (Miami, Florida) on 04/26/2017
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I cured my rheumatoid arthritis in 4 weeks with borax. It had no effect for 19 days then on day 20 I could feel it working. I put 1/4 tsp in glass luke warm water and drink it in morning. Borax, is low risk. Lot of people have taken it. Research it. To be on safe side just know what boron overdose symptoms are.

Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 04/08/2017

Dear Marion,

We make smoothies all the time at my house and turmeric is easy to disguise in them.

We buy a case of frozen organic bananas and let them ripen and then freeze them so we always have them on hand for our smoothies.

  • 1 frozen banana
  • 1 cup milk kefir (or yogurt)
  • 1 teaspoon turmeric
  • 1/16 teaspoon black pepper (to potentate the turmeric)
  • 1 Tablespoon cacao powder
  • 1/4 teaspoon vanilla
  • Blend in a blender

My kids like to add a tablespoon of peanut butter to theirs.

If you use unsweetened kefir or yogurt you will need a sweetener - honey or blackstrap are ideal. Otherwise raw sugar, but not artificial sweetener.

Aldi and Trader Joe's have strawberry or blueberry milk kefir that is good. Milk kefir or a high quality yogurt will have benefits to add to the turmeric.

If you could add a tablespoon of organic coconut oil that would be great, too. RA may have a viral component and the coconut oil would be good for that.

Also if he could take lots of vitamin c (sodium ascorbate) that would be great and Epsom salt baths if possible.

I hope this is helpful to him!

~Mama to Many~

Posted by Marion (Egg Harbor City , Nj) on 04/08/2017

Hello, my 35 year old son was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis recently and doing research turmeric helps, I saw your statement about a "shake" you make and drink could you possibly send me your recipe? He does not want to take some of the medications that are out there, some side effects worry us. If you could do this for him I would be extremely grateful.



Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Cora (Fl) on 02/27/2017

I have RA amongst several other illnesses, to read your article was just overwhelming, I am in so much pain right now; an i would love to have a menu of what to and not to eat, to read about the different teas you use, the celery an cucumber drink, need to do a thorough cleansing of my body, please write me back, along with a menu and please pray that I can or will overcome using salt an eating so much meat...and I do want to come off of all of this medication, my dr now wants to put me on humira for the tired of taking all of this medication..

Posted by Bob (Us) on 12/06/2016

According to the internet (which never lies) Iodine supplementation must be accompanied by Selenium supplementation. 200 micrograms per day. Thyroid function suppression begins at 750 mg (milligrams) of iodine, therapeutic doses run around 100 mg, and maintenance runs around a few mg, and more isn't a problem.

And the iodine supplement should be a combination of elemental iodine and iodide compound such as potassium iodide. Lugol's liquid and iThroid capsules are good examples. Lugol's is cheaper, obviously because it's just a bottle of liquid, without all the capsules.

What brand of iodine are you taking to relieve your pain? How many milligrams of iodine does that equal?

Rheumatoid Arthritis and UTI Connection
Posted by Art (California ) on 11/05/2016 928 posts

Pat (Merseyside),

Tetracycline, like many other drugs, comes with a fairly lengthy list of potential side effects which should definitely be considered given the proposed length of treatment (years). The longer duration of use probably increases a persons chances of running into one of those side effects at some point during the treatment, but this has to be weighed in relation to the possible benefit of eliminantion arthritis. As a person who used to have severe arthritis that is now in remission by usings Ted's borax remedy, I can certainly understand the desire to take that risk though. Here is a couple of links to the potential adverse events associated with use of Tetracycline of which some would be considered severe. Even borax is not compatible with everyone as mentioned on this forum.

This article discusses ways to help mitigate some of those potential side effects associated with antibiotic use:

Best of health going forward.


Rheumatoid Arthritis and UTI Connection
Posted by Pat (Merseyside) on 11/04/2016

Hi Ray,

RA is a bacterial infection of the connective tissues which become invaded by a microplasma which is difficult to ID bc it hides within the connective tissue. The treatment is tetracycline antibiotics long term. It can take up to 3 years to reach maximum benefit or remission.

The doctor who championed the AP ("Antibiotic Protocol") was Dr Thomas Macpherson Brown as mentioned by a few others. This man treated over 10,000 patients before his death and most of em got better in fact 80%/ He helped many many people regain their life that his friends and patients set up the "The Road Back foundation" his book is here on amazon, published in 1988

and the other book is here: for anyone with autoimmune disease this book is the answer

I've had RA for 25 years and have tried every remedy, diet and vit's and Min's associated with RA to no avail I am about to try the AP after finding these books I'm given hope again and feel so confident this is the solution it provides answers and evidence of it's effectiveness and the scientific trials plus there are now more recent publications confirming this is the case from Iran, Mexico, America and London check it on pubmed. They will have to revise the treatment but that's to come. The more I read the better it gets makes so much sense.

ACV and Baking Soda, MSM, Mag Citrate
Posted by Mary (California) on 10/05/2016

I drank three cans of tonic water with quinine. The next day way less inflammation. I then drank two cans daily for a week. Inflammation gone. I continue to take the apple cider vinegar daily tho. If you don't get relief then you are eating things that cause you inflammation. I did the ALCAT blood test and it told me what foods cause inflammation in my system and I avoid them. I also drink Kombucha tea which has probotics to heal my stomach. I wish you health and to be pain free.

Sesame Oil Massage
Posted by Bea (Arkansas) on 09/30/2016

I am one of those who is doing Dr. Brown's antibiotic protocol with Minocycline. I have been on it since 2007. I was dx'd with RA in 2003. It has worked well for me. I do not take the antibiotic every day. Currently I only take 100mg on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. It is an option. I have tried to discontinue the antibiotics, but regressed quickly to the point of not being able to function. There are a few books out there about therapy and also the Rhuematic Support board. That may help you get more info.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Zack (La) on 09/08/2016

That can't be good for your blood pH taking baking soda and ACV. They both alkaline the body. One or the other. Too high of a pH isn't good. Balance is key. I use only ACV and have RA. Just an opinion.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Zack (La) on 09/08/2016

Vit C is a water soluble vitamin. The body will only absorb about 500 mg +/- at a time and the rest is excreted in urine. It is best to take it several times a day to maximize absorption. Think smart don't throw away money. I have RA also and it is under control. I am going into research for RA. I am 27 yrs old. NOT MEDICAL ADVICE.

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by John (Athens, Greece) on 06/22/2016

This is my suggestion to help with Reumatoid arthritis, having to do with leaky gut

  • Juicing once a week
  • Avoid proinflammatory foods, milk, white sugar, white flour made food stuff
  • Serrapeptase (80,000i.u) in the morning on empty stomach
  • One hour after serrapeptase Glutamine with water
  • oil of oregano with the food 6 weeks ΟΝ 2 weeks off (mid - day)
  • Omega 3 capsule plus probiotics - 8 o'clock in the evening
  • Between the two main meals – 6 o clock in the evening – One capsule mastic 6 weeks ΟΝ 2 weeks off
  • When you are on two weeks OFF from previous, get garlic oil capsules instead
  • Before food 10- 20 minutes, take digestive enzymes

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Erin (Bat Cave, North Carolina) on 05/31/2016

Thank you, for all of the good information. This gives me hope.

Calcium and Coconut Oil
Posted by Bill (Boston, Ma) on 05/20/2016
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Amazingly Coconut oil!

I have had pain all over for 7 months. Started with knees, feet, spread to hips arms and shoulders and really all over. My left arm at the elbow very painful. I just turned 60 in great health never smoked drank really took care of myself all my life eating very healthy with occasional indulgences.

I believe what I have it Rheumatoid Arthritis which really comes and goes but now has been with me constant for 2 months and painful.

2 weeks ago I started on Calcium 1 teaspoon a day and also 7 days ago I started on coconut oil extra virgin natural.

I eat 3-4 tablespoons a day 2 in morning 2 in evening. I heat up the oil (because it is paste) and then drink it but take water immediately after because of the taste is a little hard to swallow.

Well it's been 7 days and the coconut oil and my pain has reduced significantly, maybe 75%.

I don't really know what has caused the pain to reduce so much but it had to be one of those 2 things Coconut and/or the Calcium.

I take Calcium Carbonate (NOW) and Coconut oil (Natures way).

Something is working and I am very happy about it. I also have a good diet you must do both or one bad will cancel one good.

I also juice. Spinich, carrots, ginger and maybe an apple.

But I have to give the credit to Calcium and Coconut oil. I also took a bath in the oil this morning, felt good because what you put on your skin goes in your body.

I also oil pull. Using Coconut oil with water and a little Baking soda for 5-10 minutes cleaning my mouth esp before bed. The mouth can hide and breed many diseases.

That's my story.


Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Isabel (Tampa) on 05/05/2016

I also have rheumatoid arthritis. For the last 2 months I had taken golden milk, it has changed my life completely. You can look at you tube and there is a lot of information on how to do it. I use 1 cup of milk (almond milk) 1/2 a teaspoon of turmeric 1 teaspoon of oil (sesame, but it can be any kind) and little bit of black pepper. Just warm it up, not boiling, and drink it before going to bed, Just try for 2 weeks and it will change your life.

Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 05/04/2016

Dear Bill (Brockton, MA)

Wow, you are doing a lot of great things. It would be discouraging to not see progress with so many things you are doing.

I would consider trying milk kefir and nettle. Those are the two things that seemed to turn my daughter around when she was dealing with possible RA and asthma. She has neither now.

You say you were in great health until last year...what happened last year? Did you move or have some illness? I am just wondering if there was a trigger to this for you.

I am hoping others here will have some ideas for you.

Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Bill (Brockton, Ma) on 05/04/2016

Interesting. I have had pain in feet, shoulders, now legs and knees and some arm pain and hands on an off. I just can't figure what it is. I'm juicing now carrots, canteloupe, ginger, apples and orange. I also take turmeric, d3, ACV pills still not much change. I could use some answers.

I'm 60 and been in great health all my life and only since last year has this pain started.

Looking for the right combination of herbs etc to fight this thing.

Thanks, Bill

Dietary Changes, Colloidal Silver
Posted by Telefingers (Chicago) on 04/30/2016

Hi fellow Chicago RA person! Any chance you have a Dr. that follows the Antibiotic protocol method to treat RA? If so, can you please share the info! My user name is the same as gmail!

Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Ben (Bremerton) on 03/22/2016

TimH, It is best to talk to George about technical details. Have you read his articles and visited his site? george eby his phone number is 512-263-0805

Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Timh (Ky) on 03/22/2016 2084 posts

Ben: Perhaps you would enlighten us as how to properly administer G.N., proper amounts and such, as this is very important.

Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Ben (Bremerton, Wa ) on 03/20/2016

About rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroid: I studies this one a few years ago, both conditions are linked to mycoplasma fermentans infection so one treatment should fix you up in a hurry - Gallium nitrate.

Supplements, Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Ra Not Getting Me (Michigan) on 03/20/2016

Is the NSC 24 Beta Glucan the one found on Amazon or Swansons Vitamins? Do you prefer any specific brand or company? Thank you.

Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Ra Not Getting Me (Michigan) on 03/20/2016

I am beginning to realize after eliminating most grains but specifically gluten, if gluten is my cause too. I've had very little as I stayed home most the winter and home cooked all my meals. I ate out a few times recently and have had 2 bouts of attacks. I read a few years ago that gluten is the culprit. I'm trying to cure my Hashimoto's thyroid issue naturally, and was told to get off all grains as this causes inflammation. Maybe there truly is a cure for this awful pain. I'm any case, I tried the vinegar and my pain subsided. This vinegar has been my staple since I found this website a few years ago!!

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Karen (Usa) on 02/18/2016
4 out of 5 stars

I knew people with RA and one want to just jump a cliff. The other did too but had elderly parents to care for. He was on weekly chemo to kill the pain.

I, however, refuse to be killed off with toxic medicines and decided since all if Earthclinic's cures work for me, why not see if the cure for RA would help me too. One dose gave me less pain and mobility. I need to make this my daily routine.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Karen (Usa) on 02/16/2016

Famous fitness guru Jack LaLane drank it daily and swore by it. He lived to be about 94 years old and caught pneumonia or would have still been lifting weights.

Rheumatoid Arthritis and UTI Connection
Posted by Anne (Austin, Texas) on 01/31/2016

I flare up when I take antibiotics so I stay away and let my immune system take care of the UTI or any other infection. I have rushed and taken antibiotics when my body could have handled the infection. I was diagnosed with RA and bedridden six weeks after giving birth to my child. Maybe it is what they give us at the hospital that triggers RA and not an infection...too much antibiotics in the IV is my opinion. I am open to the infection theory too, but since I flare up so BADLY every time I have been given antibiotics, I still think antibiotics can cause RA or make it worse for sure. Try the Budwig diet for your RA, no sugar, no processed food, no meat and for me no grains. Juicing vegetable juice is key!!!

Dietary Changes
Posted by Monica (Ny) on 01/25/2016
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Hi Nadine I understand what you are going through, I also suffer from RA for the past 8 years I try all type of medication and nothing seem to work, I am a diabetic with Bata Thalassemia the last medication that my doctor have me on it send my blood pressure very high I just stop taking it. thanks for the information I am looking forward trying natural herbs to help with the swelling and pain. stay healthy. p/s my doctor also give up on me.

Supplements, Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Pat (Japan) on 01/21/2016
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Would like to share my experience with all that have been battling RA. My first symptoms appeared about 9 years ago. I would get flare ups in jaw, fingers, wrist, knees, toes, feet, shoulders, ankles. Almost all joints except elbows. Doctors did not sort this out at first. But was confirmed with an Anti Nuclear test of some sort. Experienced frozen shoulder twice. Went through alot of xrays, MRI's and painkillers. I started looking online for help and changed my diet first. Fish, seeds, nuts, beans, vegetarian protein powder, fruits, vegetables, and lots of water. Cut out gluten, dairy, meat, sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and soda. Also began a routine in the morning of stretching, light weight lifting, and calisthenics, finishing with a bike run.

To this day I experimented with supplements. I am down to five now:
NSC-24 Joint and Tissue formula
NSC-24 beta glucan
NSC-24 Multi Vitamin
Krill Oil
and Apple Cider Vinegar. (ACV)

It did not happen immediately. However, it was a slow noticeable change. To the point where for the past over 3 years I have had little to no pain. The few times mild pain has occured I believe it because I was of my protocol. Ate beef and or ran out of Dr. Mercola Krill Oil. I believe this to be the best and the most important supplement that I take. Also firm believer in ACV as it helps regulate the pH in your system so that bad bacteria does not get out of control.

I would be glad to share my experiences with any and all who need assistance. v/r Pat

Gluten-Free Diet
Posted by Happy & Painfree (Canada) on 01/19/2016
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I had rheumatoid arthritis quite badly. Tremendous amount of pain, however my joints were not yet deformed. I was told by someone to stop eating all forms of wheat due to the amount of gluten contained in it. There are other grains as well, not sure what they are. Well, it was one of the most frustrating and also rewarding things I have had to do. I was told to stop totally, for at least three weeks. At the end of about two weeks, I realized I was no longer in pain!!!

I had suffered severe heartburn for 20+ years. A doctor told me to use antacids for the heartburn. I believe this is actually what caused the arthritis as it forced my body to digest and used something it did not recognized as food (GMO). When I stopped using the antacids. Now, I will get heartburn from eating anything with gluten in it, then throw-up, usually within a short time. When I do accidentally ingest gluten, (a small amount) the first place I notice it, is my big toe joint on my right foot. It gets swollen and red, but the damage is not permanent. There are some very good gluten free products out there now, for which I am very thankful!

You can also find a list of common allergens, sometimes it can be milk, mushrooms, etc. I think the elimination process works for most of this type of thing! Happy and painfree!

Dietary Changes, Apple Cider Vinegar, Herbs
Posted by Roger (Planet Earth) on 01/13/2016

Brought tears to my eyes, thank you and god bless!

Posted by Roger (Planet Earth) on 01/13/2016

Copper is very conductive to electrical energy. The body is a walking bio-electrical transmitter and receiver. The copper will facilitate the flow of these electrical fields, focus or disperse them. Copper is also a mineral needed in cell biochemistry. Taste your blood, lick some copper note the similarity.

Juice Fasts
Posted by T (Oh) on 01/01/2016

How much did it cost to remove your amalgams and how many did you have removed? Thanks. I would have to pay out of pocket as it is not covered under my insurance.

Organic Juice and Coffee Fast
Posted by Felicia (Fl) on 11/26/2015
5 out of 5 stars

When I was diagnosed with RA I couldn't walk right, sleep or even use the restroom without tears. After tons of pills and shots the doctor prescribed to me and a fever that about killed me I decided to take matters into my own hands. I started a organic juice and organic coffee enema fast to rid my body of the toxins and poisons that I was filling my body on a regular basis with. I got the idea from The Gerson Therapy and diet. Look up any of those words and do research on the subject. For me it all just clicked and I understood how the body gets hurt and heals. I went all out and got the books and didn't do anything half way.

I am now drug free and best of all pain free and live a normal active healthy life..I keep my powerful juicer on hand and use it when I am not feeling like I should. Good luck.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Shifalika (Chandigarh) on 10/24/2015

I was diagnosed with RA few years back when I was 24 years of was going well n it didnt flareup but after my pregnancy it flaredup suddenly....n affected all my joints badly including my hip joints, knees, ankle bones, wrists n fingers was a worse condition....ya its right we ourselves have to keep on check that which diet triggers your black beans, curd, citrus fruits, spinach, egg plant all these seems ro be poison for RA...then I started taking tulsi organic green really helped n then my sister sent 100 percent fish oil capsules....after searching on internet that fish oil contains omega 3, DHA, EPA n all these three convert the inflamatory substances into resolvins n inhibits RA n stiffness too....but I will start taking cider too but I m in doubt its also sour n can it increase my pains.

Posted by D. (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) on 10/10/2015

Butterfly in MI - I have experienced the same, but only with one acupuncturist. Pain is definitely NOT a component of acupuncture. Find someone who knows what they are doing, i.e. has more knowledge, sensitivity and experience. Good intentions and a diploma do not a professional healer make.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Vanessa (Beautiful Hawaii) on 10/07/2015

In response to so desperate. I was diagnosed with RA at 33. My experience with it is extensive. Besides all the suggestions here alkaline diet will make you feel much better. I first went the drug route. 19 years of steroids, 1 or 2 AT a TIME of Immunosuppressants, and anti inflammatory drugs. Had a hip replacement 1997 then 1st knee replacement in 2000.Almost died from a severe staph infection, septic in my blood. In a matter of hours I was deathly sick.

After this I decided NEVER to take immunosuppresant drugs again.

I started doing Remicade which is an IV infusion that I get every 2 months. It is actually a good western drug and works on the root cause of the arthritis.

I have been able to get off the steroids, and even the anti inflammatory drugs.

I became pre diabetic due to long term steroid use.

I have tried MANY natural and alternate therapies. Astaxanthin ( the product I use is Bio Astin), has helped my joints tremendously. I have introduced many others to

I also take wild fish oil, krill oil, spirulina, probiotics a good multi vitamin and a few other things daily.

My main foods I eat are salmon, spinach and blueberries.

Exercising in water is the best! There is a fine line between doing nothing and too much with RA. I also do a 1.2 mile trail walk with my German Shepherds daily.

Upon waking if your joints are sore best thing is hot water to increase blood supply and make your joints more mobile.

I rarely have pain in my joints.

I hope this helps.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Patricia (Merseyside) on 10/07/2015

Chevieman, Thank you, great post.

Posted by Butterfly (Albion, Mi) on 10/06/2015

Hi, I have tried acupuncture 4 times but very painful for me. I was so bummed, but I balled like a baby, he was trying to help the pain in my feet so I could take my long walks, he stuck needles between my toes and I literally balled and he stopped. Now we are doing Lidocane injections. I was wondering if anyone on here has had Breast Augmentation? I had it done in 2001 and I have researched this that it will cause Rheumatoid Arthritis. I have changed all my eating habits, I cut out gluten, I drink Apple Cider Vinegar, I make green smoothies and fruit smoothies, cut out sugar. so now I know my Acupunture may be right that it's the augmentation. Anyone else go thru this?

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Patsy (Liverpool) on 09/30/2015

Thank you all so much for responding to my post there are some great snippets of advice from you all I do appreciate it.

I will look into that book "Overcoming Arthritis" as for Tramadol, I can't take them they make me so dreadfully sick. I take the LDN at night before bed bc I read it's between 2am and 4am that our body produces endorphins. thanks tho :-)

I do have the magnesium spray and I have a foot soak with epsom salts which takes the pain away for a short while. I also take gluco/chond/msm magnesium, ptssum, gluten free I was dreading bc I know I will struggle and I weigh 7 and half stone my diet is very limited. Anyways will be taking up some of your advice for sure thank you all again.

Chevieman, thank you so much for that information it is invaluable and I will print this thread, what you say has restored some hope and as well as a few other things I'll go at the boron again bc that was the most disheartening I believed it would work and I did have a mega herx. It made me mad when it never did what it said on the label kinda thing.

I'll include vit K, some reishi mshrm, the probiotic deffo ordering these things right now so thankyou your posts have restored my faith and lifted the heavy cloud.



I love this site it's awesome and I tell everyone who'll listen to check it out :-)

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Susan (California) on 09/28/2015

Try castor oil packs. I don't know if they cure the RA, but they are very soothing.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Alan (Hudson) on 09/28/2015

Patsy, as a fellow RA sufferer I pray you find the blessed relief that has given me my life back. My RA had progressed to the point where most of life's physical needs hurt more than they were worth. I was near hopeless and imagining a life dependent on my wife and family at 60 yrs. old. After trying many things without success I tried Turmeric on the advice of an Indian grocer and the tide that had been rolling unchecked turned!! For me, 5 grams turmeric powder with 1 tbsp. walnut oil and 1/2 tsp. Rose hip seed powder in milk (I use cashew milk)...2x a day. I also eliminated most all wheat products. I buy the turmeric in 5lb. lots and it lasts quite a while...walnut oil is pricey but is high in Omega 3 and turmeric is best absorbed with fats and pepper. I still get stiff and sore when I rest but am able to handle the many physical demands of my farm. I hope this helps you find some relief.

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Posted by Sp (New Jersey) on 09/28/2015 30 posts

Hi Patsy, I had full body arthritis. I went 100% gluten free, (checking all food labels and websites and celiac sites), for a different health problem. Going gluten free didn't do a thing for that problem, but it cleared up the full body arthritis. It was miraculous for me. It's hard to go gluten free, but it was so worth it for me.

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Posted by Rsw (Oh) on 09/27/2015


I am so sorry you are suffering so terribly. Please know that LDN can take up to a year or more to achieve the full effect. Since it can be taken with anything EXCEPT opiate based drugs and it does seem to be working to a certain degree for you, perhaps you could continue taking it and use your pain meds at night if LDN is taken in the morning? (It can be taken at any time of day) Have you tried adjusting your dosage either up or down? Maybe add some Apres flex bosweilla? Some people take tramadol (sp?) for pain at a different time from the LDN with success.

Best wishes and I hope you find some relief soon.

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Posted by Anon (Usa) on 09/27/2015

Perhaps the following would help but please google and read first before committing:

D3/K deficiency isn't this a major problem in the UK? Did you take K with the d3? Jeff Bowles wrote a book on this and did his own study taking very high doses of D3 along with vitamin K. His book might be helpful to read or you could just read the reviews on


Garlic would large doses of garlic perhaps in capsule form to rid the body of the bacteria that may cause RA?

Hydrogen Peroxide Food Grade

From Road Back Foundation Discussion Forum a reader suggests drinking small drops of HP in water or actually spraying food grade HP directly on the area of pain.



Have you had a chance to read Overcoming Arthritis by Dr. Brownstein? Perhaps there might some nuggets of wisdom waiting for you to find that might be helpful.


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Posted by Myway (Usa) on 09/27/2015

Calming down the inflammation is key (as you know) so, here are my suggestions. My neighbor, who took methotrexate for a couple years, has RA but it is improving tremendously with the following regimen:

1. Turmeric capsules 2X a day

2. Black seed oil (nigella sativa) 1 tsp 2x a day

3. Spraying magnesium oil on joints nightly and in morning

4. 1 Tablespoon of unrefined, organic, virgin coconut oil 2X a day (put it in food)

5. No sweets, no grains

6. Lugols iodine (I don't know the amount)

7. 4 mg astaxanthin, 2x a day

8. 8 glasses of filtered water a day

It has taken her about 3 months to get about 80% improvement with this regimen. She was taking boatloads of meds but was tired all the time. The meds were taking it's toll.

I hope this information gives you hope, Patsy....

:D MyWay