Mystery Diagnosis


Posted by Nech (Kimball, Sd) on 03/03/2013

My husband is having an unknown pain. It starts in the middle/lower part of his diaphragm and radiates around to his left shoulder blade where it hurts the most when it happens. It's been sporatic, but he feels it gets a little better after he eats a meal. It's improved a little since he got a massage a few days ago, but is still experiencing it. The massage therapist said it could be a stomach ulcer, but by reading this website, those symptoms don't seem to line up. What could it be and could there be a natural remedy to help? Possibly more baking soda or apple cider vinegar?

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

Nech from Kimball, Pains that occur in or near the heart that also result in pain radiating anywhere on the left arm [ especially the shouler area ] should be examined by a qualified MD. Such pains can and often do result from some sort of heart problem. You need to have this checked out by a qualified MD....Oscar

Replied by Nech
Kimball, Sd

Thanks for you input Oscar... However, my husband has seen the cardiologist more than once due to other issues similar to this one in the past. He's done more than one stress test on the treadmill, done the heart monitor more than once and he's always gotten a clean bill of health. The doc told him to stop worrying and that he was just so healthy. So where do we go from here?

Replied by Art.
Vancouver Bc., Canada.

To Nech from Kimball SD.

I have to say I can relate to your husband's chest pain. I as well had to have my heart checked and it was good. It was reference pain from my Gall Bladder and it was bad. What cured it for me was a big mouth full of Olive Oil, I noticed a calming effect within 20 minutes. I did this until the pain left and never returned until last week. I used the same method again and this time it only took the one gulp. I rinse with mouth wash right after because I can't stand the taste. Some times the simplest remedies baffle others.

I hope it works for your husband. Let us know.


Replied by Suzzie
Portland, Oregon

I had the same symptoms and went to the ER over a dozen times because I thought I was having a heart attack. After many doctors and specialists it turned out I had asthma. It was affecting my shoulder because I had a previous injury to it from a car accident. It may not be the cause of his pain, but it is something to look into. Who would think asthma could cause chest and shoulder pain? Not me.


Posted by Neguarin-dubeibe (Raleigh, NC) on 04/09/2014

This is a question for Ted. It is about my daughter 22yo. Healthy until the last four months when she started with a headache and tingling sensation for about three weeks, then that sensation move to her knees and sometimes to her feet. Take her to the doctor. Head MRI done nothing wrong. Only thing low was Vitamin D (12). Started taking almost 7 thousand units everyday. She felt bad. Then pain on her chest. EKG done, nothing wrong. She complains every day from a different thing. Numbness on her right leg has been the last problem. Every single pain comes and goes. She cries because she said she wants to feel fine at least one day. I don't know what to do. Any ideas? Please respond to me. Thank you and congratulations for a wonderful and useful website, God bless you.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Neguarian,

I'm not Ted but just a question relative to your daughter's condition. You do not give any of her history...medical, physical or anything else that might help Ted figure out what is going on...or for that matter anyone else who would want to help her. For instance, has she been on medication of any kind? Statins in the last year? Any history of A Fib? Any history of serious infection (mono, strep etc)? If an infection (a memorable and serious infection...what was it and where in the body)...Any accidents in the past year?

And...When was onset of the headaches? Does she think the headaches are related to the rest of the problems? Is she depleted of energy? If so, did the energy depletion coincide with the onset of the other symptoms?

You said she had an MRI of the head...nothing of the spine that might be showing lesions?

There are two parts to good analysis: First an accurate diagnosis and Second a possible array of either cures for the problem or "helps" to alleviate symptoms.

The more clues you can give Ted, the better he (or others) can give you good suggestions.


Posted by Nkk34 (New York, Ny) on 03/27/2010

Severe pain at ankle with bulge, but no diagnosis

Hello! Hope someone can help me as Dr's can't!

I have developed a very strange bump just above my ankle and it aches and my running days are over due to this constant pain and bulge. Went to the Dr and told me its inflamation, but then another Dr told me it has something to due about my muscles. I have don the ACV, the oil pulling, the epson salt and even took anti-inflammatory drugs to assist and nothing has helped. My Chiropractor massaged the hell out of it one day and it helped, but its been 5 months now and I am still in sever pain. Can anyone understand this or help?



Posted by Orcasun (Victoria, Bc) on 02/15/2014

Hi, I am a late 30's Female from BC, Canada. I am average height/weight/build and have been suffering with varying degrees of pain since August 2013, but it keeps getting worse. Doctors can't detect a thing (despite my having gone to every kind of specialist under the sun) so I am constantly being dismissed as being a stress case or as having emotional problems leading to imaginary pain... enough of that noise, though- I am hoping that somebody on this site can help me figure out what is going on with me!!

My head has been feeling as though it is filled with liquid or something, sort of a menthol burning sensation. My sinuses feel all clogged up, but nothing ever comes out my nose! My nose isn't plugged per se, like I can still breathe and everything, but I feel so stuffed up and like there's so much pressure built up in my head. It hurts so bad! My eyes get very painful and I have increased photosensitivity. My pain can often become a total 10 out of 10. I can lay on one side and it feels like the liquid runs down to the side closest to the ground, then I can turn over and the liquid will move to the other side. But none of the liquid ever comes out for some reason. It feels like the bones in my face could just crumble or explode! There's a certain tugging feeling I've been experiencing with the bones or nerves in my face, but it's really hard to explain. My eyes have been really puffy upon waking, dark lines below the eye and a puffy upper eyelid. Laying down hurts a lot and really causes my head around the cerebellum to hurt, plus my neck and by my ears. My teeth get really sore sometimes, and my mouth can get the sensation of having a bunch of paper cuts or canker sores.

I am so frustrated! Pain meds do NOTHING. I've started to neti with collodial silver but the liquid doesn't come out like it used to before August. the neti drains through my eyes and mouth, and some stays in there for a long time and causes me even more pain. So far no positive results. I got dust mite covers for my bedding and such, but I've noticed no changes.

To make matters even more complicated, I recently found out I was pregnant, and I will not take anything to compromise the health of the baby (as tempting as it is to try and relieve some of this pain!!! )

Can anybody help me?!? orcasun(at)hotmail(dot)com

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2114 posts

Orcasun: Your list of symptoms is synonymous w/ typical environmental related illness. First suggestion is to remove your current air filter (probably fiberglass and you are showing signs of exposure to the fibers) and replace w/ HEPA or HEPA Type filter. Also purchase a negative ion air purifier or ozone/negative ion combo purifyer so as to greatly improve your indoor air.

Now I would suggest a visit to the "Detoxification" section here on E.C. and take notes on a "top five" list of what you can get started with. Two suggestions off the bat: One, try a warm bath w/ 1/4 cup Epsom Salts and 1/4 cup Baking Soda for at least 30 min at least 2x wk. Second, Oil Pulling should help you; there is also a page for O.P. here on E.C.

This is starters but you will need to begin soon as possible these suggestions and check back and report any findings or ask more questions.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Orcasun, it might be safest to start with looking at what you are eating.

Replied by Nanowriter
Hotspot, Texas

Something probably happened in August of 2013. A viral infection? Dental surgery? It sounds like an infection deep within your sinuses, probably viral or fungal since antibacterials are usually the first thing used. You can keep attacking it topically with the neti and cs and/or internally with strong anti microbials like oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, garlic, vitamin C, etc.

Also investigate ways to replete your trace minerals, which are probably depleted.


Posted by Pact12345 (State College, Pa) on 07/14/2014

For 2 months, my hair is falling out by the clumps, it's thinning at an alarming rate. My scalp is also itching and burning. I am also experiencing extreme thirst and no matter how much I drink, it doesn't go away. I was put on Kentocornizole (so) tablets because the doctor thought it was a yeast over growth, the medication did not work. I switched to an over the counter gentle T-Gel shampoo, that hasn't helped. I was checked for diabetes about 3 months ago because I was dealing with sever daily chronic migraines (had them for 1 1/2 years)...I finally found out myself that I was not having migraines but severe sinus infections (how numerous doctors and neurologists couldn't figure that out is beyond me). Since I am extremely thirsty I am thinking this is an internal issue rather than external...but I just don't know. Any advice on what I may have or what I should do is appreciated. Thank you.

Replied by Mama To Many

Dear Pact12345,

I have a couple of thoughts. I imagine other posters here will have more thoughts and hopefully among them all you will be able to figure out what to do.

My first thought when you said that you had hair falling out was "infection." I have heard a couple of times of ladies who had a sickness and following it they had major hair fall out. Do you still have sinus infection symptoms? You could try Dave's colloidal silver irrigation of the sinuses and ears, or other ideas on the sinus infection page here at Earth Clinic.

You can also see the page on hair loss to try to encourage regrowth.

In the fall I was possibly exposed to lice so treated myself as if I had it. I used castor oil and coconut oil with tea tree essential oil on my scalp. I did have new hair growing in after a time. This may also help with an itchy scalp. I mixed a jar up with 1/2 cup castor and extra virgin coconut oils and added a teaspoon or two of tea tree essential oil. It is super duper messy. I would I carefully massaged it into the scalp and left it on a couple of hours (I wrapped my head in plastic and then a towel). It took a couple of washings to get it all out. I repeated a few times in a month on myself and daughters. Do this gently, though if you are losing hair.

My other thought, as soon as you said, ""Thirst, " was "Thyroid." I was having severe unquenchable thirst and found out it was because my thyroid was low. I have been using Lugol's iodine and companion nutrients for years. If I run out of iodine, my symptoms return after a while. There is a lot about it on Earth Clinic.

While you are trying to figure out what is going on, some extra vitamin C would be good. Also, a teaspoon or two of Raw Apple Cider Vinegar in a tall glass of water once or twice a day has helped so many with such a variety of problems, it would be an easy thing to try.

I would look for hidden sources of MSG in your diet as that can cause thirst.

Please let us know what you find out! I hope you are feeling better soon.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Pact 12345,

Re the scalp condition et al...

To figure this out...if hormonal or a disturbed endocrine system or a fungal invasion, it would be helpful if you told us how this all started. Have you been on meds ... what and why....

I note the infection issue is present too. That is an indicator that maybe the heart of the problem is viral/fungal. If you just want to start up with attacking that aspect, it's easy enough...just get a bottle of colloidal silver and start topically applying to scalp as well as irrigating the sinus, ears and gargling. Drink two tablespoons twice daily. If this thing attacking you is viral, you'll start getting relief in a few days. You might have to be on the CS for six months to kill the virus...if the cause is a virus. I'm not convinced that the cause of your problem is viral/fungal.

Of course, that could be PART of the issue. So nothing lost in making sure no viruses are doing damage to an already damaged situation. I'm thinking endocrine system. Now it is totally possible to have an infection in one of those glands that compose the endocrine system. I presume your doctors have taken saliva samples to see what your endocrine is doing...correct?

But back to some basics...please tell us how this whole thing started...if with some sinus infection and then you started having scalp and headache issues (sinus)...then if the inception of symptoms was close to a bad infection, then I'd be blaming virus/fungus. Only one thing might indicate virus as the culprit...that sinus infection you mentioned. The CS will knock out the sinus infection. If it's quality CS. I use an ear syringe to squirt the CS deep into sinus cavity. That gets it into Eustachian tubes too where LOTS of bacteria/fungus/virus hide.

Please report back and give a detailed description of inception...back to before the bad symptoms you describe began. Was there a prior infection? Describe. HOW did symptoms first start?

Replied by Kt

Dear Pact12345: Since you are in college you are probably getting a lot of hidden sources of MSG which explains the sinus infection. Mama to Many's suggestion of extra vitamin C, especially before you go to bed would be beneficial.

I had read a vitamin B-6 deficiency could result in hair loss and fluid retention. Because it is important to take all the B's together, so you don't cause a deficiency in any of the others, you might get a high potency B-Complex supplement.

I would suggest taking Blackstrap Molasses because it is an excellent source BUT with what has happened to our food supply you have to be so careful not to get too much sugar from other sources.

Replied by Dj
Cleveland, Oh

Sounds crazy simple, but wean off the meds and bathe in natural Borax in as hot as water as you can stand, about 1-1/2 to 2 cups, once in the morning and once in the evening, dunk your head back in too, but not your eyes (a few drops of room temp black tea in the eyes will help treat that area - stings for a moment but harmless). Boron is naturally part of your cells so you won't have an allergic reaction to it, but your skin will likely turn red or rashy briefly initially from the heat and the die-off as you likely are dealing with parasites similar to scabies with mange-like symptoms and difficult to detect and treat.

These are a new emerging health problem, especially affecting people who have spent a lot of time hiking, on farms, in gardens, around animals or dirt. Drink a couple glasses of cold water afterwards to rehydrate yourself and cool down. Do the Borax baths twice a day for 2 weeks and then a few times a week for maintenance - it may take a very long time to get rid of it entirely, but I have no doubt you will see quick improvement right after you start. Borax is cheap at the Dollar store. I have done this and know of others who have and it works every time.

You could also at the same time do other things that are helpful if you're able to such as alternating drinking different anti-parasitic teas (sweet annie/Chinese wormwood, rosemary, cilantro, etc.), use neem or tea tree soaps, pine tar shampoos, make an oil to spray on your skin mixing mineral oil or deep tanning oil (without any sun block) with 5-10 drops of clove oil and/or tea tree oil to apply to everywhere on your body, and avoid foods that feed bacteria or parasites and help them grow or create an acidic environment they thrive in - avoid coffee (instead drink black tea or lemon water with no sugar or herb teas), no soda, sugared drinks, no fruit juices (eat real organic or non-chemical-treated fruit and vegetables instead), no artificial sweeteners/chemicals, dyes, no white processed foods like white bread, white rice, pasta except 100% whole-grain, preferably rye, brown rice, sprouted or gluten-free.

Eat plenty of protein to build your cells like beans, seeds, nuts in salads, eggs, fish and lean meats, and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine - the UV kills the parasites too so don't wear sunscreen for at least a couple hours (and if you do make it natural/100% organic). Probiotics are also very helpful to add good immune-supporting bacteria to your system, and the best all-natural vitamin/nutrient product I've found that is potent and easy to take is the Alive powder shake with pea protein which comes in chocolate, vanilla, and green apple. It comes in a large canister and lasts a long time, can be expensive, but if you get it online it can be found on sale for about $20-25. Hope this helps & best wishes! :-)

Replied by Cda
Tucson, Az.

Another poster said that the anti-fungal medication her doctor put her on, caused her hair to fall out, so I'd check the side-effect list on your medication if I were you. A lot of Folic Acid (a B vitamin) can help bring in new thick hair if one takes it for a few months, although new sprouting incoming hair should be seen within one month. Perhaps you do have an overgrowth of yeast the way you describe the sensations, maybe the medication just wasn't effective. How about a natural shampoo with Tea Tree Oil? ( And an anti-fungal diet? Or using Virgin Coconut Oil in your diet and on your scalp?) There are pharmaceuticals that can cause chronic thirst, but a marked deficiency of Potassium can also cause a thirst that cannot be satisfied.

Replied by Kt

A nutrition almanac reported that there is more potassium in a TBSP of BSM than any food.


Posted by Pamm (Birmingham, Alabama) on 02/23/2014

Chronic Burping, White Tongue, Trapped Gas in Upper Stomach: I have had these symptoms for 3 months & its driving me crazy please anyone have any suggestions? It started out with the Stomach Tightness in Upper Intestines that goes all the way through to my back. Then the Chronic Burping started. The tightness feels like trapped gas. My stomach in upper is very tight. I burp all day. Then my tongue turned white & its cracked & very dry. I did the spit test for Yeast & failed it, However the doctors said the white tongue is not thrush. So what else could it be from? Yeast in Gut? I am trying nystatin & diflucan but so far no relief. It just appeared out of nowhere & won't go away. Doctors keep trying to give me Acid Inhibitors but I know this isn't good for our stomach. I don't know what to do I am desperate for answers. I don't have heartburn, just symptoms mentioned. My blood sugar also has been lower since this started. Thank you in advance.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hey Pamm,

From your description .... stomach and intestinal distress... not an acid reflux problem (not mainly) but more likely an infection.

For either, reflux or lower track infection, try, to start with a tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar in a glass of water and sip over an hour or two. Repeat two hours later and again after another two hours.

Lots about ACV on Earth Clinic.

Next, if that doesn't bring relief, I'd be taking a good anti viral; my favorite is Colloidal Silver and a close second is the herb Echinacea. On the CS, I'd take a tablespoon every hour for four hours and determine if the pain has let up. Echinacea is also a good anti viral. In liquid form, I'd put five to ten drops in glass of water and drink and then repeat every hours...again for four hours. I'd consider using both in fact given the degree of infection.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

To Pamm,

By the way.... the white tongue could be coating from virus. So if me, I also gargle with the Colloidal Silver for a week, twice daily.

I gargle with CS a few times weekly. Never have any whitish coating on tongue. I believe the CS is keeping me clear of viruses.

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

There is this whole new issue about food and water safety. The cause is virulent new strains of E.Coli that is infecting our food and water supplies. The USDA is not only not helping but is purposesly suppressing information about just how common and dangerous this pandemic is becoming. What you can do is make sure you drink sterilized water and cook all foods a lot. You can sterilize water by boiling it for about 5 minutes. Cook all meats to well done. Eat NO salami or hamburger or other ground meats. Here is page 1 of 57 pages of recent outbreaks. Each page contains 10 to 12 stories = 570 or more E.Coli outbreaks. Just click " earlier reports " to cruise on through those 570 or more reports. Earlier reports is located at the very bottom of each page. Vegetables are every bit as likely to have these bacteria on their surfaces. So you need to clean them with sterile water or cook them thoroughly. A lot of doctors are woefully ignorant about all this. Link here:

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Pamm, read up on "too little stomach acid" (acv/lemon can help) and "too much stomach acid" (baking soda can help).

Replied by Misty
5 out of 5 stars

I read somewhere not to take too much baking soda, it may not mix with everyone's stomach fluids, sometimes it's best to do a few more web searches before trying anything. Most times we were born with what used to be a joke; our systems were like self cleaning ovens, we can clean it or slightly alter it, but please be careful of what you try. These are only general experiments!! Thanks, Misty


Posted by Pete (Los Angeles) on 08/15/2013

Hello Ted, I developed a painful spasm in the chest radiating into my jaw up to my ear and having a panic attack at same time, no fever or swelling but fatigued. I have brain fog as well. I checked and it's no heart attack. Most always a taste in my mouth. I have developed a kind of stiff neck. This happened just coming back from overseas. I would like your opinion of diagnosis and any possible regimine I can try. I have had this a long time. Thank you, Pete

Replied by Steve
Las Vegas

The tightness and the pain can very well be related to the symtoms of panic/anxiety attacks. I suggest going on youtube and watch some EFT or energy healing demo videos for panic/anxiety first. Supplements may help but are often a bandaid if this is caused by the panic attacks. Try it a few times and see if it helps. It worked for me when I was having symptoms almost identical to yours. Peace, Steve

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
384 posts

Well most of the pain can be relieved with endorphin frequencies of 111.11 hertz, both sound and electricity square wave function - the effects are long lasting. The bacteria that is common in this type of pain is in the same family as the acne and diphtheria, so the easiest way is to get your immune system up with zinc chloride or zinc acetate, lysine and taurine. The lysine is commonly taken at 1000 mg x 4 and taurine is added to help some zinc absorption. Also, some mannitol may help at 4000 mg at average of one time a day, taken at the same time with lysine, zinc, and taurine. The lysine, zinc and taurine is what our body needs for the immune system to fight off this pain in the?chest area. The bacteria is hidden in the fat cells of epidermis near the nerves, and that causes pain. So this is why topical DMSO sometimes helps and additionally a zinc chloride saturated solution of one drop is added to 30 cc of DMSO solution. This is used to help reduce the bacteria that is hidden in that area, that is causing the pain.



Posted by Phil (Rio Dell, Ca Usa) on 07/08/2012

Let me present my symptoms and signs. First felt the effects one week ago today. It feels like the flu but, then again, it feels different. Intermittent fevers, minor stomach upset, occasional muscle pain that travels, persistent cough. Last night it appeared to be going away but this morning it's back again strong. Very little appetite. I feel hunger but cannot think of anything I want to eat. Malaise. I generally prefer to treat myself naturally and am not the type to dash to the doc. Passing no sort of infected or bloody discharge. Ideas? Treatments? Oh, also, I am married and do not engage in an at risk lifestyle. 57, been in great health for years, 190 lbs., non-smoker

Posted by Phil (Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom) on 11/02/2010

Can anyone help or advise, I get hot flushes on average twice a day, usally at about 1pm -2pm and it lasts about a half an hour and then the next one would occur at about 7pm and lasts about the same amount of time, I have had this now for near enough ten years. I get red across my nose and cheeks when I have these hot flushes but now after years it is staying red. The redness isn't blotchy and I have no pustules. I have done a bit of reading and it is hard to pinpoint what I have, could it be, rosacea, hot stomach, thin skin on my face, circulatory issues, hormones.. Please help, what can I do to get rid of this as it is affecting me pshychologically now...

Replied by Coregon
Medford, Or

For hot flash relief I've found the following to be very helpful:

- eat an avocado daily (don't know why.. But it works! )
- reduce sugar and alcohol
- eat small frequent meals (don't let yourself get too hungry or too thirsty.. This seems to bring on hot flashes)
- eat oatmeal
- take 400 mg of chromium picolinate daily (200 in a. M. And 200 in p. M. )
- take flaxseed oil capsules 3x day (these really work! )
- take Vitamin E complex 2 x day
- drink lots of water
- wear all cotton fiber clothing (avoid polyesters)
- sleep with 100% cotton sheets and pillow cases
- spray your bedroom with lavender oil and water at bedtime (calming cooling effect)

For the emotional part of hot flashes (we expect them and get tense when it starts happening), try saying to yourself "I am cool, this will pass in a moment" and take deep breaths. Stressing about it only makes the hot flashes worse. If I had to pick 2 things out of the list above that worked the best, I'd say the avocados and the flaxseed oil :)

Replied by Phil
Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom

Thank you so much for your advice, I am going to do this right away and hope for some good results. Kind regards, Phil

Replied by Jabeth59
Port Hardy, Bc, Canada

1/3 cup Aloe Vera juice works WONDERS! Good luck!

Pinkie Pie

Posted by Pinky Pie (San Diego, Ca) on 09/27/2013

I am 17 year old female, this is a lloonngg story so please take your time reading haha. First off I've had "systemic lupus" for 5 years. Well docs dont know if it is lupus or not because my organs are fine and my body doesn't respond to the regular lupus meds, unless they end up putting me in the ER for a severe allergic reaction to the steriods. So im no longer taking any meds for the "lupus". So on August the 15 I caught the flu and my body went into shock and I fainted because having a low immune system and all it hit me pretty hard. So I was taken to the ER, where they then gave me two IVs along with Reglan and Zofran Ondansetron, the reglan caused me to shake very much. So I was sent home... Two days after I was home, still dehydrated and very weak, dizzy as well, I started juicing with a recipe that involved Kale which I never had before, so go figure I got an allergic reaction to that. I didnt know what was wrong with me so for a good 12 hours I was having an allergic reaction that was getting worse and worse each hour, went to the ER. They gave me benadryl and sent me home. I woke up, it being august 21st by this day, very tired and confused thats all I remember... Now also on the night of either the 21st or 22nd I started taking protein shakes to get my weight up, having two a day... My mind was very off, very dizzy, and hyper-reflexive. I continued to take two shakes a day, eating regular processed foods, my body continued to get heavier and heavier, my mind was soooo crazy that is the only way I can describe it. I also couldnt walk hardly and in car rides my brain turned to mush and my body went dead with no strength, I couldnt carry myself. So I eventually got paralysis from my neck down. I went to the ER, they didnt know what was wrong with me so they blammed it on my "lupus" and gave me Zofran since I was still having my nausea and gagging problems during all this and they sent me home. I did my own research and cut out the protien shakes, started making organic shakes using organic fruits and veggies, except for kale, and I put a scoop of Miracle Reds in each shake. This helped me be able to walk again and helped my mind heal some and I recall one day when I was feeling absolutely fine :) I just dont remember what I ate that day...

So heres where I NEED HELP all though I have improved I still cant seem to find whats going to help me get 100% better. I feel confused most often and dizzy here and there, off balance, and nauseous. So I started my menstural cycle a couple days ago and it drained me... I was taking ibuprophen for then pain but I think that may have caused a ulcer because then I started having a feeling of air in my stomach and it felt very hot and I kept burping and gagging severely. I ate some melon and it soothed me but along with this too, my mind is now fogging and my legs ache, my bones feel rattly and im off balance and really tired even when I just woke from an 8 hour sleep. oh, and when I woke I had a hot fuzzy feeling in the back of my head/brain. im thinking maybe im developing MS???.... Or maybe it is CFS?... Not sure. I also have this pain on my left side of my neck feels like its an artery thats aching... Not sure but its been hurting off and on since ive caught the flu back in August. Please help, I refuse to go to the Doc until I have tried as much as I can to better myself naturally. My knees also hurt, not too much as to where I want to cry but just uncomfortable. Any advice is much appreciated. Thank you for your time. -Jes

Replied by Mike
Denver, Colorado

Pinky Pie: I was at where you are except I wasn't taking any meds. I fully recovered and you can too. You have to get all the carbs, oils, proteins, vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, and special substances your body requires. These have to come from raw, organic, grassfed, wildharvested, soaked, sprouted, and fermented whole foods. You were on the right track juicing raw organic produce. That is why you got better. That is not the complete program. Look at my reply to the post father with lymphoma earlier in the day. That gives you everything. Watch raw food and superfood videos. Follow David Wolfe's ideas.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Pinky Pie:

Your story sounds like a number of other cases I am familiar with; first this question... You said that the onset was five years ago when you would have been twelve years old (you now being 17). Right? OK. Do you recall if you had a severe infection when you were 12 years old, a few months before the onset of your current symptoms? Maybe a bad sore throat? A bad cold? Ear infections? A sinus infection that just stayed and stayed. Occasionally, the sickness isn't so very intense, but rather long lasting; like an ear infection that lasts for a month and then it comes again six months later and stays for another month.

Next question... If you were sick with something before the real onset when you were 12 or maybe even 11, did you feel like after you got over the sickness but you never really got your energy totally back... maybe you felt very tired or tired out easily even months after you were first sick?

Or if none of that sounds like what you experienced, do you recall if you had some significant dental work done; maybe even a root canal, although you were probably too young for that or maybe you had a tooth pulled to prepare you for braces.

What I'm getting around to is this: You have ALL the symptoms of a system wide (systemic infection) of a virus or fungus.

Easy to kill.

If what I asked you rings a bell and you think, yes I can remember I did have a really bad case of the flu/chest cold/ etc. any of the things I listed and especially if your energy never came back full strength, then those are two signs that this is a virus you're facing.

In any of that is true, and if I were you, I'd be ready to take an anti viral. It takes a while for the anti viral to kill a system wide infection. You need to ask your parents about taking this if you think what I described could lead you to conclude that perhaps you have a virus. I have been taking an anti viral for twenty years and it is called colloidal silver. It's water with a tiny bit of silver in it... but tastes just like water.

If you think what I ask might ring a bell you need to talk to your parents about this. Your are legally a minor and you have to discuss this with your mom and dad. If you want me to discuss this with them to find out more about the anti viral idea, just post me back. But we really need the parents on board if you think/ and they think that perhaps they want more information since your age limits what you can do. But I'm ready to help if you will get them to post if you all are interested.

Best to you young lady. Don't be afraid: there IS a cure for you. Keep looking, even if the virus/fungus is not the cause. There is a cause and if you look diligently you'll find the cure. (Knock and it will be opened unto you, seek and you shall find.)

Your friend,


Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Addition to last post to Pinky Pie:

You mentioned the possibility of MS; possible but simple scans by the Docs should have found the lesions. They readily show up. Apparently not there so probably not MS; but if it is MS... There is a definite link between MS and a specialty virus (similar to the viral family of polio). So my suggested "cure" or at least "help" would still be a valid thesis. MS involves a virus along with a heavy metal eg mercury. (Typically mercury poisoning is from dental fillings with mercury or eating fish from a contaminated lake. ) And then the tear to the lining around the nerve (spinal cord and/ or brain) is called a lesion. The nerve is exposed because the "sheath" the "myelin sheath" is damaged by the combo of mercury and virus and the nerve is destroyed by exposure.

As in the other post I wrote, please, because you are a minor you need to show this post to your parents.


Replied by Anonymous

Blimey Jess, sorry to hear you feel so poorly. I am thinking you need to take vitamin d3 to support your immune system. You also should try and bathe in magnesium salts every night for a while. Please try not to eat too much processed food and no food with vegetable oil in it. If you can it would help to see if you are intolerant to some foods- for example wheat, milk as this would lead to all kinds of weird symptoms as when we can't digest stuff we exhaust our vitamins and minerals. Drinks with caffeine in them deplete our vitamin and mineral stores as does alcohol. Also sugar. I hope that gives you a bit of guidance-

Replied by Pinky Pie
San Diego, Ca

Not sure what I have or if my symptoms are possibly mini strokes... I've been having trouble walking for a good while ever since I got ill with the flu that hit me very hard (I fainted and went into shock) this was last month, the 15th of august 2013. I then had a severe allergic reaction to Kale (turns out I'm allergic to vitamin K) two days later. So after then I started making raw shakes with organic veggies and fruits and putting a scoop of Miricale Reds in each shake, two shakes a day.

Well this helped regain a lot of senses back I still have trouble with feeling confused most of the time, walking with bad balance and cant walk for very long without feeling like im about to faint. Also get blurry vision when averting eyes occasionally, and back pain, sweaty feet that get hot and cold on and off. I could go on... I also get this heavy numb feeling on my entire body, brain and all... My senses are VERY sensitive, example, smells are strong and so are noises, and I absolutely can not go to sleep if there is any noise what so ever... I get hot flashes and a pain on the right side of my neck. I'm going to my Doc tomorrow, well lets just say the insurance I have is the worst one... So please I would like some help as to what I can do naturally first before telling my Doc any of my sympotoms, I know it won't be in effect by tomorrow, but ya never know... Thanks, any advice is much appreciated!!!

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2114 posts

Pinky Pie: Such a broad spectrum of symptoms suggest toxicity which could be heavy metal (most likely Mercury) poisoning or possibly environmental chemical. Prescription meds could also aggravate the issue.

Have you Mercury dental fillings (and recent dental work)? Have you been receiving recommended vaccines like flu vaccine? The high toxicity of Mercury has damaging effects on detox, immune, and hormonal body systems which you seem to be suffering.

I could be wrong, but do read the E.C. pages for heavy metal toxicity and go from there.

Report your conclusions and additional findings so we can help you get better.

Replied by Debbie

Your body sounds as though it is toxic. Any time you try to juice natural raw foods you may experience an initial reaction as your body is try to purge the toxins out.

Stay away from processed foods. Buy a juicer and begin to juice raw (organic) green foods. You can add in some fruit to make it a bit palatable at the start. Protein shakes have MSG added into them (sometimes).. MSG and aspartame are toxic to the brain.

Cayenne pepper will protect you against strokes if that is what is happening.

Do you drink any energy drinks? They have toxic additives in them.. Some have bromide added which deplete iodine from the body.

Replied by Andrea C

Hi were you given Antibiotics when you had the Flu? I am asking because I nearly died after taking 1 tablet for an infection, and the after effects affected me for ages after that, it was only mind over matter and God as far as I'm concerned that saved me. My symptoms were very similar to yours. All antibiotics are Mold, and veg is rampant with Mold seen and unseen if not well washed and soaked in vinegar or lemon juice added to the water and rinsed well after. Also you state your making shakes with veg and fruit, are you aware a lot of veg, especially certain greens and fruit is high in Vitamin K? Look on the web for list's containing it, and also make sure anything you use veg and fruit in is also well cleaned after use, as this will cause mold build up rapidly as well. A lot of people use chlorine bleach on juicers, blenders, food processors, etc for this same reason, but I wouldn't do that, I use 3 percent hydrogen peroxide which I dilute with distilled water from food grade. And you'll contact mold by touching the veg and fruit, so I would wear a pair of gloves, rubber, pvc, leather, even gardening gloves to cover your hand's when around them. This will help you try to eliminate certain causes out of the picture, I know when I go to any one's home that has mold in, it effect's me to a degree, but not so badly now as it did before, Also some people can't tolerate sulphur food's which Kale is and the cabbage family, which has a lot of relation's besides sprouts and cauliflower, so research that as well. And try and be aware of where you were and what you do when these attacks occur, you may find a link somewhere. Even down to what soap tooth paste, house hold products. Keep a journal this will be a great help, I have reactions to other peoples perfume, and once went in to shock after my friend splashed a hair dye she was using on me. Don't let it make you be afraid to get on with living, I know it's scary, but you can't let fear of what may or may not happen rule your life. Let us know how you get on. Love Andrea C xxxxxx

P. S I have bought Ammonia, white vinegar, and bicarb (baking soda) to wash all my clothing, bedding, curtains, and anything else I possibly can to eliminate mold in my home. You have to use Ammonia carefully, and the vinegar is white spirit vinegar. I am following instuctions I got off another web site, and will be wearing rubber gloves, goggles, an a face mask to protect my skin, eye's, and avoid breathing it in. A woman in England became very ill to the point she could not live in her home, and slept in her car with the Air Conditioner on to breathe. After a long investigation, a tiny speck of mold was found in her home, and made her really ill. All we can do is what ever is possible to route out any causes, the stuff I bought cost me twelve pounds for the 3 on Amazon.


Posted by Ramona (Gauteng) on 12/13/2012

I am 34 year old female. In dec 2009 I was stung by something at the beach on my left arm, whatever it was had a tail. It think it was a jelly fish. Anyway I forgot all about it and was fine. In mar 2010 I was watching TV and felt a cold sensation on my left side of my head, which progressed into tingling on my left side. I was immediately admitted to hospital and was seen by a neurologist. No official diagnosis given, just that it was a TIA.

Since then I have never been okay, I have had on and off pins and needles, weakness, pain all on my left side. The symtoms dont happen together. it will be either one or the other. Been for 2 MRI's and many neurologist and they found nothing.

I also had psoriasis since I was 9 and in 2010 I started getting symtoms of the arthritis. I have been to a rhemotogist about 2 months ago, who put me on methotrexate. But I am still not well. I still have those weird symtoms on my left side.

I have also been to many homeopaths, but no one has helped me. This is driving me insane, suffereing for alomost 2 years and NO one can help me. Please help me!!!!

Replied by Lisa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa

Hi Ramona, since you don't seem to have been helped by western medicine nor can they give you an explanation, I would highly recommend you find a Traditional Chinese medicine Dr. It sounds as if your body was already out of balance since you'd had psoriasis since you were 9 and this just furthered the issue. I am certain TCM would be able to understand why these symptoms are occurring. You also have not seen relief from homeopathy as well. In Chinese medicine, they see the body as a whole and the various organs, sides of the body, upward/ downward movement, all have meaning. They would check your tongue and take your pulses and palpate your organs and then treat you accordingly. Every person is unique so, symptoms could all be the same in various people but have different reasons for their manifestation. I.E. : 5 people could be experiencing migraines but all 5 people could have them for different reasons.

Anyway, I encourage you to research this as this system is over a thousand years old and works. Modern medicine is often just taking stabs in the dark. I hope this information helps you in finding answers. Best to you, Lisa

Replied by Anon

Hi, It would help if you had a hair analysis test to see what deficiencies you have and then treat those. It could be that you have a magnesium deficiency among others. If it is magnesium an Epsom salt bath would help. The jellyfish sting and your body's immune reaction could have depleted some vital vitamins and minerals. Pls check and report back, thanks


Posted by Regulator555 (Grand Rapids, Mi, Usa) on 06/03/2010

So, I'm glad I found this site. Anyway, my husband has been suffering with an unknown illness for months and months. Here is the chronology: Early November 2009, a lymph node behind his ear swelled - huge. Warm compresses fixed it within 24 hours. Right after Thanksgiving, he was having chest pains and went to the ER. They told him that he had an acid reflux problem - probably GERD. He took antacids, etc. February 2010, right after Valentine's, things really started to go down hill. He was feeling horrible - headache, body aches, dizziness, chest pain, stomach ache. They said he had a virus. He kept going to the ER, they kept running tests, and he was given a bazillion diagnoses. He was told he had viral meningitis. They did heavy metal testing, CAT scans, blood tests, urine tests, an endoscopy. He has not gotten better. Since then, he has been diagnosed with viral meningitis, GERD, gastritis, kidney stones, prostatitis, diverticulitis, ulcers, and IBS. He's been on various meds - RX and OTC. Nothing has helped. He thinks he has cancer, but they haven't found anything. He's a mess. As it stands, he has generalized aches and pains all over, his chest muscles hurt, his testicles hurt, the base of his neck hurts, he has heartburn, abdominal pain, loose/yellowish stool, dizziness, fatigue, depression, anxiety, and difficulty sleeping. Today, he thinks he has Lyme Disease. Over the fall, he was cutting deer. Right around the time the lymph node swelled, we found a tick crawling on the couch. He never developed a rash or anything, but that's where we are now. Anyone have a clue as to what may be going on? He has a colonoscopy scheduled in August.

Replied by Melb
Hickory, Nc

The initial symptoms you describe match a case of Lyme Disease my boss is recovering from. She went to the doctor complaining of swollen lymph nodes in her neck, headache, stomach ache, dizziness, and body aches. Even though she had no rash or bullseye pattern, the doctor tested her for Lyme and it was positive. I would suggest having the test performed. If, however, it comes back negative, find a good holistic practioner in your area. I was having a series of bizarre symptoms two years ago at the age of 37. Two doctors told me I was just getting old, one told me it was impossible for me to be having the problems I was having, and another diagnosed me with atypical Interstitial Cystitis which meant that I had a reaction to the test, but it didn't explain all my symptoms nor was it a typical response.

As it turns out, I had parasites and food allergies. And all the antibiotics prescribed by the doctors who were trying to do something--anything--to help me depleted two forms of beneficial bacteria in my colon which wreaked havoc on my system. Had I not gone to the holistic practioner, I would have been put on a medication that would have treated the pain, but eventually I would have ended up on disability and later institutionalized because of the dementia that was quickly progressing.

I thought I had every blood and urine test known to man performed on me by the doctors in my area, but the holistic dr. performed two simple tests that immediately clued us in to the major issues.

Replied by Karen
Nuevo, Causa

Sounds like Cryptococcus Patti Menengitis. Air fungus
That you breath in gives a mild cough easy to miss then moves on to digestive system causing nausea, etc. Then to heart causing chest pain then to brain causing confusion, dementia, parkinsons, memory loss even shizophrenia in last days. Come and goes. Very difficult to get diagnosed because it requires a spinal tap with alot of other test. I believe I have this myself. I also believe each of my cats dogs and horses had this before they died. I cannot say if it was the final thing that took their lives. But they all showed signs of this along the way about a year before they died. Google it. It is now in southern california. Never used to be. European newspapers report that this is killing hundreds of thousands in our country and is an epidemic. Yet I have not read that here. Each of us makes our own decision on what we chose to believe as truth. Search for yourself. Study the facts and good luck. As I am still looking for something that cures it. Antifungal such as fluconazole suppresses but does not kill it. They can give it in IV but still does not kill it. H202 at 30 drops a day did not kill it or essiac. My mom also showed signs of this as well before she died too. Next I will try MethyleneBlue. The rate in this country in deaths has increased in the last few years. Telling me there is an extremely high rate of death here in the Us.

Replied by Wendy
Parksville, Bc. Canada
2 posts

My neighbour has the fungus that you are talking about. The cure for it is to take expensive pills 3x a day. A specialist in Victoria, BC figured out what he had, He is much better now. He has it in his lungs. You have to take the medication for 10 months. Contact me at my email and I can get the name of medicine if you are interested. But doctor prescription only.

Replied by Jay
Toronto, Ontario Canada

Re: fungal infections.... Please look up information on olive leaf oil extract. It is antifungal, antviral, and antibacterial. The liquid extract is better than the tablets or capsules.


Posted by Rhonda (Ga) on 10/20/2013

Mystery illness: I am 5'7 and weigh 148. I have been having excruciating pain in my hips, mostly the right whenever I wake up from lying down or get up from a sitting position. This has been going on for the last year and a half undiagnosed. I also have extreme weight gain in my stomach although I am thin and of normal weight everywhere else. I have healthy thick head of long dark hair but a very dry scaly scalp. I have seen dozens of doctors including a rheumatologist. They have suspected fibromyalgia and lupus as well as everything in between. My ANA tests were a high positive but all the sub tests were negative. I have occasional extreme blood pressure surges whenever I become stressed or upset even though it is usually low. Some recent labs indicate a vitamin D deficiency and the presence of candida. Can you please help me?

Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado

Rhonda: The instantaneous way to go from being sick and suffering to being awash with euphoria would be a complete raw whole food program. Google raw food for candida videos. The organic 80/10/10 vegans can further enumerate the admirable qualities of God's Goodies.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2114 posts

@Rhonda: Many of the conditions which you spoke of including RA have a viral, bacterial, or fungal origin. These pathogens live in our bodies for many yrs and cause all sorts of multifaceted symptoms like you noted.

You will need to first alkalize your body as acidosis must be neutralized before starting an herbal regimen. Herbs you will need would include Oregano, Grapefruitseed, Olive Leaf, Pau De Arco, Garlic. Digestive Enzymes will help as well as Glutamine and Colostrum or IgG (Immunoglobulin). Colloidal Silver will help. Zapping will help.

Replied by Sam
Miami, US

Rhonda, I recommend you find a reputable integrative medicine (holistic) practitioner. To address the pain, while you are in search of the cause of your body malfunction, find a reputable, experienced acupuncturist. Someone have to take a look at your whole body. Prepare a summary of your lifestyle. Your chronic health issues since childhood;your exercise regime; what you usually eat;supplements you take, water you drink; summary of your medical tests and medications you take. Take it with you for your first appointment with both (holistic doctor and acupuncturist), which should last not less than an hour. Good luck!


Posted by Robbie (Tampa, Fl, Usa) on 02/06/2011

My wife has been ill for about 7 years. We have tried all conventional methods. She takes all the major supplements. Very low carb and no sugar diet. She developed thrush along with all the other symptoms so reading through your site we decided to try taking ACV along with a garlic supplement, oregeno oil, Lugols Iodine 50mg daily. We have tried many combinations of supplements to help with what has been diagnosed as "Fibromyalgia" The thrush is gone!! But she still suffers from everything else.

I should list the symptoms although it pains me to do so. She has headaches, pain all over her body, aches in joints and muscles, stabbing in head. Dizzyness when standing for short periods of time, nausia, weekness. She has times of clammyness, sweating, constant sensations in her legs, itching all over (usually in the evening) She grinds her teeth at night when sleeping and sometimes when awake she has the sensation to do so. She has problems sleeping and falling asleep. She can't focus or concentrate on more than one thing (sometimes anything) She gets anxious and nervous. Shaky all over (she describes it as internal shaking) She says she sometimes she just can't turn her head off. There are a few days in between that she can somewhat function, but for the most part she is down. All traditional blood work is normal, slightly elevated white blood cell count, high Aldolase at 11.6. All hormone levels are good. She is still on one medication wich is effexor 75 mgs. (It is impossible to get off of). She has also recently had to take xanax for her episodes of anxiety. Been drug free otherwise for at least 5 years. And we intend to keep it that way! Sorry for the list, I thought it would be important to include. So, she does have fillings in her teeth. Her next thing is to be metal tested. I think it could be parasites, fungus, metal poisoning?? I read one of Ted's post's regarding these things and went and aquired the things he mentioned. Ted, could I get more specific info on implementing them. H202, Selenium, Echinacea, Sodium Ascorbate, Seasalt, Garlic, Magnesium, Apple Cidar Vinegar. Thank you for your heart to help people Ted and all!! " A man with many burdens needs many prayers"!!

Replied by Marilyn
Oswego, Il

God bless her. She is going thru what I have been for 14 years but now I know what is causing it. I also was on a benzo. When you take that it goes into tolerance withdrawel and causes all of these problems. Believe me it is hell. If you dont keep uping it, it causes tolerance w/d. I have also had many test and all say fibromyalgia. After doing all kinds of research I found it was the medication. Xanax is a benzo also. It is hell getting off and today I sit here w/d and crying cause of all the w/d symptoms. Good luck and God bless.

Replied by Robbie
Tampa, Fl

Thank you for your advise! It has been years since she has taken Xanax. She just recently started using them prn. There actually was a time when addiction and withdrawal were an issue with much more than Xanax. That was years ago when she had to go through detox. We have both been delivered from more than one thing in our lives. God Bless You Too!


Posted by Thepatientone (Hanceville, Al, Usa) on 04/02/2011

I think this started almost two years ago when I started getting really tired after 5 or 6 hours into the day, as time went on it was about 3 or 4 hours into the day, I past it off as getting older, 59 now, then I started getting sick (listed below) last May of 09 I started going my Dr. about this, about Oct. 09 it started really getting bad, I had so many test done I can't remember them all, Doctors still don't know what it is or what kind of Dr. to send me to.

I'll try and rate them from 1 to 10 with 10 being the sickest

here's what happens when I really get sick, at level 5 and up, I'm so lethargic I can barely walk, eat, shower or function mentally or physically and my muscles turn to jelly, it feels like a toxic poison running though my system, my breathing is labored and my heart rate is up for about 48 hours before I start feeling better, several time a day (only when I'm sick) for about 5 mins my breath smells like poop, at about level 8 I have a unbelievable chill like I'm freezing my insides jerk, I have some pain in the lower abdominal area.
the backs of my legs hurt something awful, my hamstrings from top to bottom hurt so bad I can barely sit, it's a burning stinging pain

level 5 to 8: lemon, BBQ sauce, steak sauce, chili and anything tomato base the more tomato the sicker I get

level 3 to 5: any kind of gravy, sausage, chocolate, onions

level 1 to 3
: beef, pork, chicken, cinnamon, paprika, any kind of salad dressing, tuna fish, vinegar orange juice and anything with vitamin C

I can get rid of the toxic poison feeling, the chills and lower ab pain if I drink a few beers and/or a small glass of red wine then I'm left feeling tired for a few days.

After doing trial and error for about five months finding out what foods made me sick I was fine for about six months, the last couple months I feel a little sick all the time

In Dec. Of 09 I had my Gall Bladder removed the only change was it would take 7 to 8 hours to get sick instead of 3 to 4

Note: I don't eat any of the foods I listed above.

Thanks for listening hope you can help.

Replied by Just Chillin
Vannes, France

Just a thought. Have you been checked for vitamin deficiencies? Doctors dont always do this, they usually just give out another pill!! You can look up all the vitamins on the internet, and they will give you deficiency symptoms. I recently have been feeling awful, and it turns out I have a B1 deficiency, and probably had it for some time. Hope you soon feel better, and just finding out what it is will help tremendously

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Thepatientone... You seem to have a lot wrong with you, but you should be able to cure disorders such as yours over time. The reason that doctors cannot cure this sort of problem, which generally relates to auto-immune diseases like Fibromyalgia, CFS. GWS etc, which are difficult to successfully pinpoint and treat let alone diagnose by the medical route, is because of their thinking which is all based on... One germ-->one disease-->one cure.... This thinking is all wrong. It seems to me that you have a multiplicity of problems including low thyroid, adrenal insufficiency as well as liver problems with possibly intestinal problems as well. Insufficiency in these organs/glands always causes loss of energy, lethargy, heart problems because these organs are the major pathways for proper nutrient absorbtion, hormonal control, blood purity and homeostasis. And all this is aside from any pathogenic infection or disease that you may also have contracted so the cause permutations of these kinds of illnesses are enormous. But the root cause of these problems is always the same -- it is always the toxins and poisons that we eat, drink and accumulate everyday(including medical drugs), which primarily seems to cause major systems such as the immune system to first become weakened and depressed, allowing in all manner of diseases via toxins resulting in organ/gland insufficiency.

The first thing to do would be to get a hair mineral analysis done. This will tell you and gve you a clearer idea of the minerals that are lacking in your diet. This should also tell you what excessive amounts heavy metals, if any, you have in your body as toxins. When you know what minerals you are lacking, then you should supplement them. If you're worried about infections in your intestines, you could also arrange a stool analysis with your doctor. Doing this should give you more peace of mind and will also help in cure recommendations on EC.

Almost certainly, from your gallbladder, blood and energy problems, you seem to have an insufficient or damaged liver. The best way to heal the liver is using the specific multi-anti-oxidant therapy below. This therapy will repair the liver, get it functioning properly again by providing many beneficial anti-oxidants to help remove toxins from your liver and body as well. Combined with this protocol is iodine and magnesium supplementation, which will help to improve the thyroid, which will, in turn, help your hormone balance and should improve your energy.

Healing the Liver and Thyroid

* Chanca Piedra tea or herb capsules --- 1000 mgs twice day a day at mealtimes. Or you can drink the tea form 3 times a day.

* Milk Thistle capsules -- 1000 mgs twice a day at mealtimes.

* Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day at mealtimes.

* Selenium -- 200 micrograms twice a day at mealtimes. The following should be taken outside mealtimes

The following should be taken outside mealtimes:

* Ted's lemon and lime body alkalizing remedy -- This will help to cure your blood acidity as well as acid problems in your tissue cells and will also help the liver. It also creates a bad environment for pathogens in your body.

* Iodine --as kelp capsules or as 5% lugol's iodine solution. Lugol's Iodine dose is two drops once or twice a day. Iodine also helps to remove fluorine and bromine toxins from the body.

* Magnesium -- as magnesium chloride, mag citrate or mag gluconate -- 250 mgs twice a day, morning and evening. This will help further support your thyroid and should give you more energy. Magnesium, together with tyrosine, also helps to convert iodide to iodine for storage in the thyroid.

* Vitamin C -- As ascorbate(alkaline form) not as ascorbic acid. Ascorbate C is an antioxidant which also aids thyroid transport and cellular absorbtion. This alkaline form should not cause you problems (Ascorbic acid is actually a pro-oxidant and is the acid form of Vitamin C).

Detox heavy metals from the body.

Eat cilantro in salads 3 times a week

Drink green tea every day.

Supplement everyday with chlorella/spirulina.

We have addressed your liver and thyroid issues which both have such a major effect on the control of the other glands and metabolism of your body. You could also supplement sea salt, Holy Basil and Olive leaf for adrenal insufficiency(energy) as recommended on EC if you wish but generally, when you heal the liver and the thyroid both at once, the adrenals seems to heal as well.

The herbal part of you liver remedy as well as the iodine should also help to address your intestinal problems as well. I know the Chanca piedra herb particularly well, as it helped to cure my own systemic candida problems and is a well known liver/kidney protective.

I would also advise that you look at the Borax remedies on EC since your problem seems to bear a close relationship and likeness to Fibromyalgia. Borax will remove fluoride toxins from the body, it balances the hormones and also kills specific mycoplasma and fungi pathogens in the body including candida.

When you know more from the hair mineral analysis and stool analysis or if you are unsure about something, you can always just ask at EC.

Replied by Debbie
Melbourne, Australia

Robert, re your symptoms it sounds like you have a digestive issue. The fact that your breath "smells like poop" I would think indicates that you have a problem in your stomach. Do you have constipation/digestive issues?

Also you say your problems are relieved by beer or having a small red wine. These foods are fermented food and good for your digestion by putting good bacteria into your gut.

There is a lot of information available on the internet re the fact that we destroy the good bacteria in the gut (which helps us digest the food properly) by many things, antibiotics, chlorine in the water, pasteurised milk, quick rising bread and many others. This makes our system toxic because we can't get the toxins out of our body. This toxicity can cause food allergies, candida, excema, headaches,

I would say you need therapeutic doses of probiotics, also digestive enzymes, fermented foods (kifir in coconut milk, home made yoghurt, fermented vegetables etc. To get your gut back in shape. ACV is also a fermented food. One glass of lemon juice a day is also meant to be great for you and will help getting your body into an alkaline state. Also an apple a day is also good for your body.

There are some great youtube videos on food fermentation, also google the GAPS diet which helps your body back to a proper state.

Replied by Che
Roxas City, Philippines

I wish to address this to Bill since he is from the Philippines. Two weeks ago I posted regarding myasthenia gravis which the doctor of my niece suspected because of the symptoms manifested were symptoms of that disease. I once again thank Laura and Tommy for responding to my post. However I could'nt find the supplements they were suggesting. Bill might be of help for me to find these supplements here in our country. I would be glad also if you could share your knowledge regarding this auto immune disease. You have mentioned several natural supplements here but I dont know where to find them here in our country. Please help me. I will be going to Manila this April for another opinion and also to hopefully look for a naturopathist who could be of help. We've gone to ICU for 4x this year. And I'm afraid we can no longer bring my niece to the hospital because of financial constraint. I just can't watch her suffer or watch her lost her last breath which I'm praying it will not happen to her. We are financially drained. I hope you could share your opinion.

Thank you so much and may God will continue to shower his blessings for this wonderful site. My prayers for Ted that God will touch the hearts of people who are kind and generous. I will be praying for his fast recovery. May God preserve Ted's life so he could continue to magnify his mission.

Replied by Michelle
Cambridge, Cambs / Uk

Dear Robert, your awful symptoms sound like the same ones I had. I would advise you to get your cortisol levels checked. Overproduction of cortisol for years, from the Adrenals, causes these symptoms. Good luck.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, San Fernando, Philippines

Hi Che... You can buy all the above vitamins, minerals etc from the Healthy Options stores in most SM malls in Manila and Cebu.

Chanca Piedra (Phyllanthus niruri) is called Sampa-sampalukan in Filipino. It is a weed that is about 30 - 50 cms high and grows all over the lowlands of the Philippines. I use it as a fresh decoction(the best form) all the time. It is a unique plant where all the flowers and seeds are produced directly along the leaf stem or petiole -- that is why some also refer to this plant as "Seed-Under-Leaf". So this one might even be growing in your garden and it is free. Here is a picture of it:

Make a tea or a decoction of this plant and take it 3 times a day. It is very bitter tasting -- you can add orange juice to ths mixture if you like. You should also be able to buy Chanca piedra as capsules in Healthy Options.

The only nutrients you wont be able to buy at Healthy Options are Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate), lugols iodine (use kelp capsules instead -- from Healthy Options) and borax.

Baking soda (Arm & Hammer brand) can be found in most SMs or CSI malls in the baking section.

I've never found borax anywhere in the Philippines -- I purchase some from a welding shop once -- it is used as a flux -- but I was unsure of any additives or impurities. My own source of chemical grade borax was purchased from Thailand. But you should be able to purchase Boron(same as borax -- Sodium Tetraborate) in Healthy Options stores as a supplement.

More specifically, myasthenia gravis is defined as a paralysing nerve disease due to a lack of acetylcholine production in the associated nerve cells. There could be multiple causes for this -- a lack of choline for its manufacture or some inhibition of either the Acetlcholinesterase enzyme or Thiolase enzyme involved in formation of acetylcholine in the nerve cell. The cause, which may give rise to this problem, could be either because of free-radical damage to these nerve cells or due to pathogen or viral damage in these nerve cells. There is also current research that suggests that there could be signalling problems -- as an indication of immuno-deficiency -- within the immune system which could give rise to these auto-immune problems.

Therefore extra options are that you might also want to try are clove oil, methylene blue low dose naltrexone.

Clove oil(5% clove oil mixed with 95% vodka), another one of Ted from Bangkok's therapies, can be used as a spray or wipe and must be applied to all joints -- especially the backbone. Clove oil is an anti-viral and when used like this acts to chase out any viruses hiding in the bone fluids. Thus clove oil can penetrate the blood/bone barrier to remove these viruses -- which is why clove oil is useful against viruses like Epstein Barr, Herpes and even cancer which also hide in the bone fluids -- as is the case with cancer, which is able to suddenly metastase and re-attack the body years later after remission. But when these viruses are forced out into the blood system, they will be attacked and removed by any strong and healthy immune system.

Rub the clove oil on and around every major joint -- elbows, shoulder, knees and ankles. Most important, rub this oil all the way up the backbone and neck. Apply the clove oil twice a day like this. It feels hot. This will drive out any existing viruses hiding in the bone fluids and the anti-oxidant therapy for the liver will boost and help the immune system to fight and remove the virus in the blood.

Methylene blue(MB) -- widely used in Ted's therapies for cancer, coma problems and Alzheimer's -- is a super-mitochondrial anti-oxidant that improves the cells energy production by more efficiently removing/neutralizing the free radicals formed inside the cell from the Krebs Cycle. This greatly boosts energy production efficiency and energy levels of cells. As well, methylene blue is anti-bacterial and anti-spirochete -- it has been used for over 100 years as a malaria cure. These days MB has been relegated for use as an anti-bacterial and anti-fungal for fish in fishtanks. So you can buy this at any aquatics shop (I found my MB in a hardware shop). This MB form has to be pure because fish are extremely sensitive to any additives and toxins. MB is normally sold as a 10% solution of MB. Dilute this down to 0. 1% and the dosage is 6 - 8 drops in a glass of water twice a day(take the last dose no later than 3 pm). This should significantly raise energy levels too. Always ensure you take methylene blue with daily Vitamin C(which is in the my protocol anyway)

I still take all the above remedies mentioned for different reasons. I'm over sixty now, with very little wrong with me. But it wasn't always like this.

Another method I have not tried, but one that seems to be having great success is taking low dose naltrexone(LDN) which seems to have remarkably beneficial effects for huge number of auto-immune diseases -- including MS, Alzheimer's, Parkinson, neuropathies and possibly even myasthenia gravis. See these links:

The dose -- which must be exact -- is only a single daily dose of between 3 mgs to 4. 5 mgs LDN with a glass of water in the evenings before bed. LDN works best in the sleep period between 11 pm and 3 am and is involved in both aiding homeostasis as well as hugely boosting the immune system against, specifically, most auto-immune problems. LDNS works by simply boosting the body's endorphin levels, which can strengthen the immune system by doubling or even trebling the levels of NK immune cells in the blood. You can probably buy generic naltrexone in the Philippines -- but you will have to get a pharmacist to formulate the low dose pills very accurately. Too much or too little naltrexone dose and it will not work. And I have no idea whether naltrexone must be prescribed by doctors in the Philippines or whether it is widely available. This is just another option for you if you wish. Speak to your doctor about using LDN, maybe he can prescribe it for you -- it is very cheap. In the past, naltrexone was used in much higher 300 mg doses to help alcoholics and heroin users get over there withdrawal problems. It is an older well known drug. The patent has also run out on this drug, so it should be cheap.

I would also like to add my own concern and deepest good wishes for Ted's rapid recovery. I hope he heals very quickly. I have also sent him a donation and my best for a speedy recovery by email.

Replied by Robert
Hanceville, Al

Thanks for the replies, some I have tried and the rest I'll try, lemon is out and some of the probiotics I can't do but the rest I'll start right away, I've search the net for two years with no results, there's just not a name for it and the Doc's give me that "don't belive you look" or never heard of such thing.

Replied by Che
Roxas City, Philippines

Sorry Bill its only now that I got the chance to read your post. Thanks an awful lot for your post. I will surely visit the healthy shop in Manila to purchase the suggested supplements. God bless and may the Almighty God continue to bless you with knowledge that you could share to the rest of the world who wants to be healed naturally. I appreciate so much your kindness and generosity to Ted. My prayers for him since I can't at the moment donate an amount for his medication and hospitalization but I know other's will. GOD WILL PROVIDE HE STILL HAS A MISSION.

Replied by C0nfused2
Woodbridge, Nj, Usa

Hello, I was wondering if anyone has tried or if there is any feedback for Ted from Bangkok's therapies remedy of the below:

..."Therefore extra options are that you might also want to try are clove oil, methylene blue low dose naltrexone.

Clove oil (5% clove oil mixed with 95% vodka), another one of Ted from Bangkok's therapies, can be used as a spray or wipe and must be applied to all joints -- especially the backbone. Clove oil is an anti-viral and when used like this acts to chase out any viruses hiding in the bone fluids. Thus clove oil can penetrate the blood/bone barrier to remove these viruses -- which is why clove oil is useful against viruses like Epstein Barr, Herpes and even cancer which also hide in the bone fluids -- as is the case with cancer, which is able to suddenly metastase and re-attack the body years later after remission. But when these viruses are forced out into the blood system, they will be attacked and removed by any strong and healthy immune system.
Rub the clove oil on and around every major joint -- elbows, shoulder, knees and ankles. Most important, rub this oil all the way up the backbone and neck. Apply the clove oil twice a day like this. It feels hot. This will drive out any existing viruses hiding in the bone fluids and the anti-oxidant therapy for the liver will boost and help the immune system to fight and remove the virus in the blood.

Thank you.