Mystery Diagnosis


Posted by Donna (Campbellsburg, Indiana, Us) on 09/15/2012

I have had back/muscle problems for 13 yrs now. Tightness and pain come without warning mostly on right side. Feels like an invisable string is pulling together from neck to hip. I'm sure this is mostly a muscle problem because the tightness comes, then the pain. I have knoted muscles up and down my back (I call these flare ups). Massage helps, chiro helps. I have been to many drs. and have found no answers. They know there is a problem but no diagnosis. For the last 2 yrs I have found that core exercises, swimming, and diet play an important roll, and I am 80 percent better. Still have flare up but not as severe. I know what I can and cant do, but I would like to know what this is and whats causing the problem. It seems I'm holding it at bay, but not totally getting rid of the source of illness. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sincerely, Donna

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Donna, have you tried magnesium (transdermal)?

Replied by Mvo
(Jhb, Rsa)

Hi Donna, perhaps someone who can do trigger point therapy massage would be able to help you. You can also find and massage your own trigger points - there is a very good self-help book called "The trigger point therapy workbook" - check on Amazon, there are 100s of very positive reviews. The drawings in the book show you exactly where to find the trigger points that relate you your pain. Hope this helps. Good luck.


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Posted by E.m.d. (Recluse, Wy Usa) on 01/16/2011

Hello, everyone. After perusing this site for a few months, I've finally decided to post something in the hopes that you might have some good ideas for me.

I'm a twenty-nine year old female with an undiagnosed health condition. I've had this condition to varying degrees for as long as I can remember. It worsened around the time I was twelve, backed off a bit for about thirteen years, and got very bad after I had our beautiful daughter two years ago.

In terms of symptoms, mine can rapidly become extreme. They start as a "brain fog" and the loss of fine-motor skills. I become irritable (which is not my usual demeanor), and my ability to reason logically is greatly impaired. Next, I usually start to hyperventilate, and then my breath catches and I am not able to breathe in. That's the really scary bit, but I think it only lasts for a few seconds. Then I collapse, curl up into a ball, start crying (if I haven't already), lose all basic control of my muscles, and on occasion have mild hallucinations. The odd thing is that I have never passed out. However, I have short-term memory loss during that time. I will remember one thing very clearly though; it's usually the color of the ceiling, a couch, etc. to pull me out, we have to give me about a quarter of a diabetic sugar tab and a couple of large spoonfuls of peanut butter. It will take me a few of hours to recover fully, but on occasion I have not been back to normal for a couple of days.

Now, I start to have symptoms every two hours. That means I have to eat about every two hours. Nuts, meat, and eggs usually help to keep it under control. However, there are times when I will "crash" no matter what I eat. For a long time, I thought that protein was the key. Unfortunately, beans, soy, lentils, quinoa, buckwheat, and milk products (cheese, yogurt, etc. ) do not help at all. Sugar and glycine will pull me out of a "crash" quickly, but, as I said above, I have to counter them with nut butter.

I understand that my symptoms are very similar to a blood-sugar imbalance. Yet, I've been tested three different ways for that, and they all came back saying that my insulin levels were, not only okay but, very healthy. I have had a basic heavy metals test, and a food allergy test: They both came back with nothing very unusual. I had a brain chemistry test done through a company called Neurogistics (they're a great company who treat brain imbalances with over the counter supplements). My test came back that I'd been under high stress for a long time, but there wasn't anything terribly off. I went followed their recommendations on supplements, and it helped my brain to relax and cured my insomnia. However, I did not help my pre-existing condition.

My symptoms can also be triggered by stress. Yet, I do not think it is psycho-somatic, because my Mother and my Sister also have similar symptoms. I do have a slightly under-active thyroid, but, even when I was taking a prescription, it did not help.

I am currently taking two tsp. of ACV twice a day, and a glyconutritional supplement. I have not noticed any long-term differences with the vinegar, but the glyconutrients do help me to recover faster. I know glyconutrients are a bit iffy for some people, and I am not sure exactly what it is in it that helps. I have wondered if it is the aloe? I would love to know, so that I wouldn't have to spend so much on the supplement I am currently buying! Also, sports drinks tend to help clear up my head, and I can only assume it is the potassium. I exercise six days a week, and am in every other respect a very healthy person.

I've seen a slew of Dr.s and people who practice natural medicine. However, I keep just getting more puzzled looks.

I am sorry for the long post. If you have any ideas I would be very grateful. Plus, you would probably help my whole family! Thank you so much for reading this and for your help!

EC: Dear E.m.d.

Please read our Remedy Side Effects page. A few of the symptoms you are reporting can be found in the apple cider vinegar section.

Replied by Kay
(In The Valley, Ca)

Wow, this is a stumper. Because you mentioned the age of 12 and the birth of your daughter, I'm really suspicious of hormonal imbalances. I would hope that a doctor has already checked these, but it would almost have to be done during an attack to get an accurate reading. Is there any way to get to an emergency room and have blood work done while you are suffering an episode? My heart goes out to you, raising a todler is hard enough when you are in perfect health. Good luck to you and your family.

Replied by Deb
(Melbourne, Australia)

E. M. D. Sorry to hear of your problem. I am not saying this is a solution but here is a link to "Niacin Therapy" (Vitamin B3) and studies done some 50 years ago. Some things B3 helped were depression, anxiety attacks, fatigue, senility, memory loss, and learning difficulties in children. Anyway read the article it may be of some help to you. Good luck in your search.


Replied by Mother Earth
(Ks, Us)

Have you considered Adrenal Insufficiency? You can have a saliva test done to determine this. At times with adrenal insufficiency your blood sugar tests may appear normal when they are not. There's a great book called Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome by James L. Wilson that may help you in your quest for information. Hope you are feeling 100 percent very soon. Wishing you all the best!

Replied by Laura
(Redondo Beach, Ca, Usa)

From reading all your symptoms, it seems more like a nutrition issue to me. Without knowing your regular diet I cannot be sure, but it is hard to get all the nutrients we actually need sometimes even on a very good clean diet. I would suggest a green supplement, Amazing Meal. I would suggest making a blended drink with this and adding 2tblspoons chia seeds (soaked in 1 cup water), 1 or 2 pieces of organic fruit and some non filtered apple juice. I would drink this everyday for breakfast. It will give you much needed nutrients, the chia will sustain you for awhile and provide you with omega 3s and antioxidents, and the barley grass in the amazing meal and the chia will cleanse you daily.

You could also add 1 teaspoon of Maca powder. It is known for regulating hormones and is great for overall vitality. You can order all these products at or get them at a good healthfood store. The symptoms you have are very mysterious and confusing. I wouldn't be suprised if this took care of it completely, but even if it doesn't, I think you will benefit from the extra added nutrition you will be getting. I wish you well!

Replied by Lemarque
(Melbourne, Victoria, Australia)

Hi E.M.D.

I found your post regarding your unexplained symptoms very interesting. It seems as though you have thoroughly examined the blood sugar aspect and as yet have found nothing to explain your symptoms. I read also that you have had neuro-testing which has shown high level stress but otherwise nothing predominantly physiological. I note that you feel that your symptoms are not psycho-somatic, and strictly speaking, I would have to agree.

However, I think you may have to consider that your symptoms in the absence of a physiological cause could be a rather severe form of "anxiety-attack". I have seen and treated several people with anxiety that presents with very acute physical symptoms. For one person it was almost as if she was having a grand mal epileptic seizure, for another it was like a severe asthma attack. Interestingly you say that your mother and sister have similar symptoms and I assume they too have not been able to find an underlying cause. "anxiety attacks" can have a strong familial trend especially in the female lineage. Since this has been an issue since a very young age with yourself, it is important that you sit with your family and try to figure out if there was any traumatic or upsetting event that occurred in your childhood or theirs that may have been a trigger to your current situation. It may be worth while seeking the help of a counsellor to do this, as often what seems like an insignificant event turns out to be the causative agent.

In the meantime you could try a 2 week course of Rescue Remedy (Bach) or Emergency Essence (ABFE) and follow that up with a more specific essence for anxiety such as a combination of Aspen, Cherry Plum, Olive and Star of Bethlehem (Bach) or Calm and Clear Essence from ABFE. I hope you find your answer Best Wishes

Replied by Granny Laura
(Waco, Tx)

Have you tried chromium? My late husband would get really ill if he was late for a meal. That is, until I insisted that he take 200 mcg of chromium each day. After that, if he was late for a meal he would be really hungry but he never got sick from low blood sugar again.

Replied by E.m.d.
(Recluse, Wy Usa)

Thanks everyone for your replies! I'm sorry it took me awhile to write back. I've been out of state helping some friends, and I've just made it back to a very snowy WY. It's exciting to have some more ideas, and I'll let you know what I come up with!

To Kay from CA: I've also wondered if it was a hormonal imbalance for the exact some reasons. To be honest, I can't remember everything I've had tested. However, I've been meaning to get a copy of my files from my Dr. I'll have to let you know when I get the paperwork. Thanks for your empathy and encouragement!

To Deb from AU: For an extended period of time, I did take a very good B-complex. It kept me from having any lows after I ate, but it did not do anything for my overall symptoms. Thanks for your idea and the link though! P. S. : I spent three months in AU and really liked your country! I hope your enjoying the sunshine!

To Mother Earth from KS: I haven't looked into Adrenal Insufficiency, so I'll have to read up on it. Thanks for the tip!

To Laura from CA: My diet is overall a very healthy one. I also saw a nutritionalist a few years back. Unfortunately, she was as puzzled as everyone else. I have debated taking a green supplement, or something with kelp, so I will look into the one you suggested. I take some very good vitamins, but I know supplements are not as good as fresh healthy food. I'll also check out Maca powder; it sounds intriguing. Thank you, and I'll let you know what I find out!

To Lemarque from AU: Thank you for sharing some of your expertise. I did glance through some info. on anxiety attacks, but I'll have to take some time to look more thoroughly. When we were trying to determine if my symptoms were simply psychosomatic, I did see a counsellor for a short time. She said specifically that I did not need to be treated for trauma, and my mother had her symptoms long before I was born. I can have a very fun and relaxing day, and still suddenly crash. Yet, I appreciate your feedback, and I'll spend some time looking into anxiety attacks. I've recently looked into some of the Bach's Flower Remedies, and I'll go over to their page to check up on what you suggested. Thanks!

Replied by Sunnyside
(St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada)

Have you tried a practitioner who uses Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)? This is my profession and your symptoms do make sense to me. However, I cannot diagnose or make recommendations without getiing answers to many particular questions. Go see a TCM practitioner.... He/she will recommend food to eat/avoid, other practices and implemrnt modalities such as acupuncture, cupping, etc. I highly encourage you to go this route.

Replied by Saliza
(San Jose, Ca, Usa)

Your symptoms of hyperventilation, collapsing, lost control of muscles, hallucinations and short memory lost are very much similar to the condition of my niece who was diagnosed with lupus. To recover from this episode, someone has to sprinkle her face with water and then she has to drink lots of water. It usually lasts a few minutes and can attack her at any time, any place. Did you check this condition with your doctor? Hope you are better now.

Replied by E.m.d.
(Recluse, Wy Usa)


Hello, everyone! I thought I would write again and give you a few updates. I'm sorry I haven't written back sooner, but I was looking into your wonderful suggestions.

I did switch from the glyconutritional supplement I was taking to pure inner leaf aloe vera juice. Surprisingly, the aloe gave me the same effects with a fraction of the cost. The only thing you have to be careful of with aloe is that it can cause stomach pains, gas, etc. I found that if I took it with something very acidic, such as grapefruit juice or ACV, I usually did not have a problem. Then one day, out of curiosity, I made up some dandelion coffee (roasted dandelion root tea). I was amazed. Not only was it tasty, but my brain started to clear up part way through my first cup. I did some research, and apparently you need to take dandelion root for a few months before you receive the full benefits. So, I've been drinking three cups (one after every main meal) for quite some time. Dandelion is wonderful, guys! The root helps with sluggish livers, resets your internal ph level, helps to kill yeast, and, although it is a diaretic, it does not deplete potassium from your body. Although I loved all of this, I had to stop taking ACV because too much gave me heartburn. Therefore, I also stopped drinking aloe juice (without the extra acid, my stomach was upset all day). However, with just dandelion alone, my body still retained the extra stability that I had felt with the aloe. So, I don't regret switching over.

I have also started taking some of the Bach's Flower Essences to see if they would help with the stress that can aggravate my condition. I cannot say enough good things about them. They have helped to focus my brain so that I can really see what is causing the stress instead of just dealing with the symptoms. When I started looking into them, I was VERY skeptical. However, I went ahead and ordered some. I made the mistake of taking a few drops directly from the bottle, and it was so strong my head spun. So, if you order/make any, please be sure to dilute them first. They can also be applied directly to your skin. If I have a sore muscle, I'll rub a few drops into it, and, within seconds, there is relief. It doesn't last very long, but there are no side effects and I'd rather do that then take lots of pain killers. When I had a cold, I rubbed some across my sinuses, and it caused them to drain. There are a lot of applications, and I am pleased to see that my skepticism was proved wrong.

Wow, so that's what I've been doing the past couple of months. I did spend some time in China several years back, and I would love to see a TCM practitioner. Unfortunately, I live in the least populated state in America, and there is no one who does complete TCM. We did find some acupuncturists in the nearest town though. I am planning on seeing one of them in the next month or so. I'll let you all know how that goes.

In the meantime, I appreciate all your ideas and your patience. If you think of anything else that might help, let me know. Thank you all so much!

Replied by Connie
(Slc, Ut)

Hi EMD: I remember reading your case in January, and seeing that I was having many of the same unusual symptoms. The strong craving for peanut butter was one of them. I thought it was probably because I needed the niacin, but at that time, I was taking extra niacinamide day and night. In fact, I began reaching for more supplements that had helped in the past, for other symptoms that were recurring. For myself, It turned out to be a B12 malabsorption problem. My guess is that maybe this condition could be a possibility with you and your family. It can be difficult to diagnose because testing is still inaccurate, and some people may only have some of the symptoms from the large constellation. The symptoms you listed : Dizzyness, Hyperventilation, Brain Fog, Crying, Irritability, Memory loss (even temporary), and even Hallucinations are included with B12 deficiency. Even those of us who get plenty of it in our diets, and supplement with an oral B-Complex, can still end up deficient. It is so difficult to absorb and transport, and it is so easily destroyed, that it's no wonder that I'm seeing this possibility with so many of us here. ( I must also account for my own bias. Pardon) I have found that taking a sublingual lozenge of methylcobalamin daily has helped me with all of these symptoms, and has helped increase availabilty of the other B's, which are also crucial. It may be worth a trial for 6 months.


Posted by Lisa (Longmont, Colorado) on 01/15/2011

Hi. I hope someone could shed some light. My father-in-law started radiation treatment for prostate cancer in September. They had to recalibrate the radiation machine during his treatment and they shut down for a week. Shortly after starting the treatment, he became ill and the doctors said it was the flu. After 3 weeks, he could no longer move and checked in to the hospital where they ran every test on him. They found nothing except a bladder infection. After 3 weeks in the hospital, they sent him to a rehab nursing home to learn to walk again.

He was weak and had no appetite, but tried to do what he could in the rehab hospital. Three months later, his legs and ankles are still swollen, red, and hot to the touch and he can't move about without a lot of pain. After a brief increase in appetite due to appetite stimulants, he's back to no appetite and is getting very depressed and weak. He still can't move and lays in bed all day.

Does anyone have any possible causes or treatment? The doctors are stumped, but continue to run what seems to be the exact same tests again and again. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you. -Lisa

Replied by Dreamerbob
(San Diego, California)

You might want to check into radiation poisoning, under the circumstances.


Posted by Gean (Salina, Ks) on 05/18/2011

I am wondering what would cause a 17 year old to have weakness on the left side of the body after fainting. Left hand was ice cold and loss of control of left side, which got gradually better. Doctors do not know, as the CT scan and blood tests were normal. She had a concussion 5 months ago.

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

If she had a concussion 5 months ago I would be getting her to drink cayenne tea (about 1/2 to 1 tspsn of cayenne pepper or capsules [organic] in boiled water cooled enough to drink) daily. She may have some sort of blood clot which is not showing up.

"The New England Journal of Medicine reported that residents of Thailand have virtually no blood clot problems because of their frequent consumption of cayenne pepper. If you use capsaicin on a regular basis it is an almost guarantee to keep your blood pretty thin and moving fairly good as a rule. About 2 capsules a day is good for general health maintenance".

Research cayenne pepper


Posted by George (Athens, Il, Us) on 03/31/2013

I have gone to 2 neurologists, had spinal taps, cat scans, barium swallows, mri's. I use to sing, but not anymore. I have been singing professionally all of my life. My processing is slower. For example when asked to do something I have to think for a couple of seconds before response. Along with that my rythym is a half beat behind. It's reversed from what it should be, I follow the band the band doesn't follow me. I am 51. When singing it comes out monotone, even though I know what it should sound like, I can't reach it. My speech is nasally at times and slurred. The Dr's have no explanation and no diagnosis. Is there a protocol for these symptoms?

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)

I met a man once and told him right away that he had broken speech patterns, later I met his wife, and she had an accent, so I wrote it off.

Turned out he had an egg size tumor is his sinus cavity breaking his speech but had seen doctors numerous times with no answers.

He was having interrupted sleep because of apnea and it was affecting every aspect of his life.

Finally they found it and removed it and his speech isn't breaking up anymore.

Replied by John
(Boston, Ma)

George, what else can you tell us besides your medical tests? Did you ever have a car accident, a head trauma or a sports injury? What is your diet like? What supplements do you take on a daily basis? It is helpful to have more information. Have you been tested for heavy metal poisoning? Aluminum, Lead, etc. How about candida? Have you tried a change of diet, supplements, etc.

Replied by Brad

I'm 50 yrs old and I also sing every weekend and although my speech and processing havent changed, my inflammation problems were increasing. So much so, that I could hardly bend my arms at all. Now this was affecting my singing on the weekends. I called a good friend that is an ND. and he gave me a recommendation. He told me I needed a specific Bovine Colostrom in therapeutic doses to modulate my autoimmune response. He recommended this for 30 days. So I did 5 capsules 3x daily. On day 10 I could very slowly bend my arms all the way. By day 30 I was free of it completely. So now I just take 2 caps once or twice daily. The research on this is incredibly amazing and it far reaches to all diseases. Its safe for all ages and no contraindications with meds. Even Autistic conditions have shown much improvement... Hope this helps...


Posted by Getncake (Las Vegas, Nv, Us) on 03/15/2011

About 4 months ago I went to my parents house for thanksgiving and stayed the night. I woke up with a red spot on the back of my head (right about the left side of my neck) that I didnt notice until somebody told me. Couple days later it started to get bigger and hurt and it was stiff. I thought it was a spider bite but Im not sure. I know I started getting really itchy everywhere but I thought it was just the cold weather. It took about 1 week to heal but then about 2 weeks later it was completely bald where that bump was. This size of a nickel. The hair grew back within about a month but then I started scratching a lot and I think I scratched that area in my sleep and irritated it because I got another bump in the same exact spot but this one was a little bigger and more painful. It went down in about a week and left another bald spot... It was a little bigger this time... Between a nickel and a quarter... and my neck was stiff.

Did some research to see what this was and Im thinking maybe its either a: spider bite, boil, scabies, or a scalp infection. I dont know what it is. I just really want help.Can anybody help me?

Replied by Pauli
(Fresno, Ca)

Redness and itching, o.k., but a stiff neck is not something to mess around with. You could have had a tick bite, and if so, time is of the essence to see a doctor and check for lyme disease. Good luck.


Posted by Gillian (Andalusa ) on 12/13/2013

I have terrible pain in my neck and shoulders, right side is worse. Under my skin it is gravelly and stringy ropey. It hurts alot, feels electric, like fiery needles or knives, have similar pain aroung hip. I have tried lots of things including castor oil packs which made it worse, mag oil, made it worse, supplements etc. I am utterly exhausted, sometimes I even nod off, but cannot sleep, at night I sleep very poorly, from pain, stress, worry and gastro discomfort. I also have bad stomache colon diges problems, bloating, belching distension, ibs etc. Supplements do almost nothing for me. Any ideas. I cannot take the pain and sickness. joysongoflove(at)aol(dotc)com. Thanks gillian

Replied by Nila
(Franklin, Nc)

Do some research on " Upper cervical Health care" I had chronic neck & shoulder pain for two years. Then found out my atlis C-1 was out which can effect not only your neck but your whole body. It changed my life!

They have Utubes on Upper cervical Health care that explains it really week.

Replied by Mike 62
(Denver, Colorado)

Gillian: The cells require nutrients. Low levels of nutrients increase the diseased state. Without nutrients the tissues cannot be repaired. Supplements do not contain enough nutrients. Because of the digestive problems the cells are not getting enough nutrients. You are going to have to eat very carefully and I am going to teach you to do so. You are going to have to eat raw organic produce and raw grassfed animal products that are low in insoluable fiber. You are going to have to make home made water kefir in order to improve digestion. Put 30g sprouted oat flour and 30g organic whole cane sugar in 1 quart spring water and brew with some water kefir grains. Make 4 quarts per day. Drink before too tart. You can add 1tbsp bee pollen to make bee bread. You can eat avacados. They have soluable fiber. Some fruits are high in soluable fiber. You can eat raw grassfed hamburger and raw pastured eggs, raw cocoa powder, raw honey, activated barley, and colostrum. You can eat ferments like non gmo red miso and kimchi. You can make green smoothies from organic baby leaves.

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)

Gillian, maybe try a diet of only lightly cooked or raw veggies with a bit of fruit for a few days.

Replied by Dave
(Fountain Inn, Sc)

Hello Gillian from Andalusa;

I think there are two problems going on with you. And I've experienced both. So, (brother) here's what's going on;

Your neck/shoulder problem has nothing to do with the gastro problem, most likely. Deal with them separately.

Your pain is coming from curved spine in cervical...atlas, axis and c-1, c-2, c-3 following some kind of accident or even more than one accident. Your pain is likely very tender on the base of the skull on bottom right (the occiput and I might misspelling that...but the base of the skull). Nerves are being pinched and that pain is radiating down the right shoulder and right arm. If the occiput is closed off, then blood flow is reduced to the brain and you'll start having dull headaches with lots of blanking out going on...sudden loss of where you are in the middle of sentences.

First, sleep as much as you can on your left side so gravity will help pull the curvature which is out to the right back to center. Next have a friend GENTLY sit to your LEFT and with the tips of his fingers, pull the right side of the neck while with your left hand you hold your head in place. What he is doing is manually pulling the out of place vertebra back to neutral. I have found this technique really helps the chronic out of place vertebra. After holding for ten seconds he does it again, letting up SLOWLY so that the vertebra/muscle/ligaments will not spring back to out of place. My wife has performed this manual adjustment on me dozens of times. I'm out on my left side. So I have the same problem you have but on the opposite side of the neck.

Do not get into the habit of twisting your own head. That is counter productive. And learn to sit up straight without leaning back; awkward but you get used to it. And never lie on the couch on your back with your head pressed forward looking at a TV, (chin on chest will kill a bad neck).

Now, a good chiropractor that will not twist your neck is helpful. One who will adjust you with you face down on what is called a drop table, and adjusts in your case, from the RIGHT side, adjusting the vertebra back to neutral.

Your other problem is solved with getting off acid foods; coffee, tomato products and no ice cream. Use the ACV plus baking soda formula at night to help digestion. Really...get off coffee, red meats, chili, at night especially.

Replied by Ilovebeets

When is the last time you had a dental examine? You could be clenching or grinding your teeth in a serious way that can cause a lot of head and neck and shoulder issues. Including nerve issues from all the inflammation.

Replied by Happy
(Up The Creek In Wv, Usa)

Jillian [Gillian ?]

My wild guess is that you have been poisoned.

electric shooting pains + sciatic nerve in legs numbness; ccould be Vit B6 overdose.

gravel under neck skin- + neck pains -- scrofula of the lymph glands. perhaps brot on by some poison in the lymph system

yellow cast to the skin - liver failure, perhaps brot on by some poison.

chalky white skin color - failure of the blood making organs to make blood; and, or; destruction of the blood , perhaps brot on by some poison affecting bone marrow, liver.

digestion failure -- failure of the liver, again.... indicates poisoning

exhaustion, neuropathy of nerves to legs - suspect poison.


secure, guard your food, water supply.

make sure you are not taking more than 200mg of Vitamin B6 per day. That can cause the electric shooting pains and the leg nerve numbness symptoms. they put it in multi-vitamins.

Do all the protocols for emergency poisoning antidotes;

bentonite clay internally,

charcoal internally,

and anything else you can find out about.

Take milk thistle extract 1, 200 mg per day, divided doses, during acute stage.

alpha lipoic acid capsules., 900 mg per day, divided doses., then reduce dosage after acute stage ends

echinacea extract; 1/2 tsp X 3t/d X 6 days. then re-assess dosage.

Thioctic acid [sp?] as Bangkok Ted suggests, a sulfur compound, that removes certain types of poisons, get it at a fish aquarium supply store, is sold to remove chlorine from tap water. do 6 drops of 10% solution in 4 oz. water , once per day, before bed.; for 6 days.

good luck

Replied by Thehandyman1947
(Ohio, U S A)

Gillian from Andalusa, Spain, seems like you have a lot of problems, if no ideas, not much to loose. I have no idea what gravelly stuff is, or what kind of arthriais you have. Mood swings are usually a hormone imbalance, a yellow complexion may indicate liver problems, for sleep try 3mg melatonin, if over 45 years old, if under 45 use a 1 mg or 2 mg. You should feel good in the morning, if you feel groggy, then use 1 or 2 mg melatonin, also very important, MELATONIN MUST BE TAKEN AS IT GETS DARK OR AFTER DARK ONLY, NEVER TAKE MELATONIN IN THE MORNING OR DAYLIGHT, digestive problems are best dealt with fermented foods, Google to learn to make it yourself. If rheumatory arthritis, vit c, calcium, msm, chicken collagen type 2, 1000 mg of each 2x a day, every 12 hours, may take up to 6 months to work, depends on the person, it took me 2 months, IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. Allopathic doctors are usualy good at diagnosis.


Posted by Hema (New York) on 07/01/2012

Hi this is Hema again from new york. I am having lots of health issue right now. My doctor did all the blood test, cat-scan, allergies test. Everything came out ok. I am having chronic constipation, pain in my muscle and back pain. First time I developed eczema on my breast. One of my friend suggested me to stop eating wheat. I stop eating wheat and everything start to improve. Next week my doctor is going to do endoscopy and colonyscopy to see do have celiac disease. Personally I don't think I am allergic to wheat, something else is causing this all problems and I could not figure it out what it is. I also have ovarian cyst. Please help me to figure out my problems.

Posted by Hema (New York) on 07/01/2012

I sent my question before but forgot to add something. I am taking baking soda with lemon in empty stomach. This is the only thing is helping me out. I heard taking baking soda everyday is not good. Please help me.

J. From Singapore

Posted by J. (Singapore) on 12/18/2010

Hi Ted

Am a member of earthclinic, where you contribute a lot. Please advise what supplements can help my conditions..

Symptoms of ENT problems :-
Ear - tinnitus buzzing/ringing, sore ear canals
Nose - very dry nasal passages (had a lot of mucus in my twenties, now in my forties all mucus has dried up), bleeding from my nasopharynx, nose canals bleed easily, gnawing pains from my nasopharynx area.
Throat - sore throat, blood in sputum
Headaches - weird head pains seem to be connected to my nasopharynx area also

I am worried as symptoms seem to be worsening. what can I take to stop the unnatural bleedings and cause the inflamed tissues to heal and restored to normal?

e.g. will taking bloodroot internally help? I have been using saline nasal rinse, but tissues seem to be still dry. please advise urgently. will provide more info as needed, thanks.

Replied by Ted
(Bangkok, Thailand)
391 posts

Dear J:

Often dryness of the nasal is connected to metabolic acidosis, low vitamin A, low potassium, and low glutathione. This may be helped perhaps by taking potassium citrate or potassium carbonate roughly 1/4 teaspoon after meals 30 minutes twice a day. Vitamin A 25000 iu a day may also support so moisture a little. A good glutathione supplement is best taken as N acetyl cysteine form at 1000 mg a day. To allow reduce bleeding vitamin k I might use between 100 to 300 mcg a day. Smelling perfumes for some reason reduces or stop nose bleed. Taking supplements such as aloe vera oil 1 teaspoon or 1/8 teaspoon of beta sitosterol and helps healing. Ringing of ears maybe due to dryness of ear or taking too much pain killers or restricted circulation to the ears. Stopping pain killers, taking 400 mg vitamin B1, taking 1/ 2 teaspoon of baking soda 30 minutes after meal and taking magnesium chloride, magnesium glycinate might be helpful at 100 to 200 mg a day. Often if nerve transmission is weak you can get tinnitus bought on by dryness of nasal area. In most cases it is helpful to take vitamin c 500 mg 4 times a day for a 2 or 3 months to help healing. It is also helpful for healing if 1000 mg of lysine and 1000 to 2000 mg of glutamine. This supplement is used for me in healing of damage tissues.


James Loh

Posted by James Loh (Tutong, Brunei) on 04/03/2014

The skin on my left face and neck is pulling in lately. I have to always touch it or move to loose that sensation.

My current conditions:
- have hot and cold fever long
- stuffy nose if hot / warm
- sleep sitting / slanting a lot
- stomach ache when hungry
- splashed water everytime overheated
- easily cold


Replied by Ladymars
(Florida, Us)

Hi James, you really need to get a diagnosis before trying to treat your problem. Best wishes.

Replied by James Loh
(Tutong, Brunei)

Luckily, thank GOD, for some reason after a long while the pulling sensation is gone. My wildest guess is that I am weak and cannot fight or adapt to the daily environmental conditions of an equatorial climate - hot, dry, humid and cold aircon. Persistent eating no matter how hard I guess help somewhat.


Posted by Janice (Pensacola, Fl, United States) on 07/09/2012

Please help me! A friend of mine is severely ill for about 3 years now. The problem they think it is his colon. He has chronic pain in his right side, sometimes vomits, some weight loss, is always tired and is weak. Also he has chronic infections. The last time he was in the hospital his major organs started to shut down. The doctors had to put him in a coma for 3 or 4 days to save his life. He left the hospital free of infection. He told me he has had infection in 45% of his body and has died 3 times. His infection is back hes in a lot more pain now, tired and weak. He is now considering getting a wheelchair. He is 35 years old with the body of a 65 year old now.

The first week of July he spent a week at his parents house which is a few hours away from his house and he did amazingly well. I am wondering if something in his home environment is causing this. The doctors have no clue what this is and he has spent years on antibiotics, pain pills and other meds. He says his immune system sometimes gets low. I am in florida and he is in utah so I cant be there to help him. Please can you help us remove the infection at least? No it is not diverticulitis. I am afraid he is dying.

Replied by Oxygenman
(Jackson, Mi)

Your friend is being bombarded by toxins and anaerobic microbes!!! I had colon cancer (which I cured with the drip therapy from hydrogen peroxide) and it doesn't sound like that but it doesn't matter because he is being over run by bad bugs which means his body is being deprived of active oxygen in the blood!! And you can only get this healing effect by 35% foodgrade hydrogen peroxide or ozone. Anti-biotics has burnt out his immune system and the bad thing about this is that it kills the good bugs (aerobic) also. I'm on fb and I have a health site called "better health by undrstanding the cause" if you want to learn more.

Replied by Julie
(Queensbury, New York)

He should have his home checked for mold. I was very ill in a new home. It had two types of toxic black mold! I had to sell the house!

Replied by Cp
(Fort Ierce, Fl/united States)

Mold in his home.

Replied by Vivi
(Atlanta, Ga)

Right side pain around waist and vomits can come from gallstones. Check if he was tested with ultrasound or CT scan for the gallstones.

In clinic they can help him to boost the immune system with large dose of liquid vit C and/or large dose of colloidal silver. They treat all patients, not cancer only. There are other places too where they may use colloidal silver or other type of antifungal treatment.

If his case if fungus - he may get some help from GSE (grapefruit seed extract) and H2O2. How to use both products is described in other places on EarthClinic. Very strict anti-fungus diet is essential. I recommend to read The Body Ecology Diet, which is very good start to get familiar with anti-yeast products. There is a lot of places on the web taking about anti-yeast diet, however the book sums up all that. GSE and H2O2 alone without diet want work. If he decides to use GSE and/or H2O2 please start slowly, from 2, 3 drops per day. Use ONLY food grade H2O2 from a health food store, 35%. He will also need strong probiotic supplements, for example saccharomyces boulardii with MOS.

Often I use EarthClinc search engine to quickly find out what I am looking for.

Replied by Lisa
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)

Hi Janice, I know you said your friend is in Utah. Can he find out if there are any far infrared saunas that he can use in the area. You say he has chronic infections and improved when he left his home so something there most likely poisoned him. Some are mentioning molds but it could be any number of things if he is very sensitive. Far infrared saunas can detox heavy metals, chemicals, molds- a whole host of toxic substances. I am not going to go blow by blow but instead will give you a link that is very well written on how much this type of sauna can do for us.

I know that the article only endorses a certain far infrared sauna but I know the one I use once to twice a week is an amazing far infrared sauna that also has the wonderful benefit of no EMF's another type of toxicity! The name of the company is called Clearlight Saunas. You can read about those at Many of the top doctors use them to heal patients including Dr. Brian Clements who has Hippocrates Health Institute in Florida. Hope this information helps. I wish him the best, Lisa

Replied by Jennifer
(Sunrise, Fl, Usa)

Janice, Has he been checked for chronic appendicitis? Pain on the right side, vomiting, weakness, malaise, lethargy (especially if coupled with a lack of appetite) all are symptoms of chronic appendicitis, with the pain in the right side being the biggest red flag (usually people feel it just to the right of the belly button, but when I had my appendicitis mine was on the very lower right quadrant of my abdomen). Two tests that doctors do to test for appendicitis is to press gently into his right side where the pain is located to see if he "guards" (reflexively tenses up) or, you can tap his abdomen on his left side to see if he feels any pain in his right. Also, if he feels more uncomfortable when he moves or walks then when he's staying still then that's a very strong sign it might be the appendix.

As opposed to acute appendicitis (the medical emergency kind), chronic appendicitis (also called "rumbling" or "grumbling" appendicitis) is more low-grade and comes and goes over a period of time. Chronic appendicitis is a condition that often goes undiagnosed but causes real problems for people. He may have to insist on getting a CT scan so they can check to see if his appendix is inflamed.

Has he tried using ACV daily? Depending on whether his gastric system can handle it or not, it might be helpful because it keeps the body in an alkaline state, warding off infections. I took some ACV when I had appendicitis and it seemed to help until I could get to the ER.

I hope this helps. Good luck to you, Jennifer

Replied by Carly
(Seattle, Wa - Usa)

Or.... He could have none of those specific symptoms mentioned in another post - and just have a horrid stomach ache, back pain, with a fever with chills. I had my appendix rupture, with sepsis. Almost died. All I could remember was all of the medical personel asking me if I had thrown up. (I had not). Apparently if you do not throw up it is not presenting as appendix. Whatever. The ER decided to keep me as my white blood cells were "a bit high".

My 70 year old doctor said it was the worst case he had ever seen. Drainage tubes and morphine and a week stay in the hospital...

Just to say - not everything presents in a "classic" or "textbook" manner. Keep pushing if you are not comfortable with what you are being told. The sick person is worn down, and needs an advocate.... a strong one who won't take no answer for an answer.

Good luck.

Replied by Rebel
(Somewhere Usa)

Hey Oxygenman. I was just checking to see if you still visit here. I went on Facebook and tried to look up better health by understanding the cause, but came up empty. I am interested in the page if it still up.


Posted by Jarc59 (Affton, Missouri, United States) on 01/05/2012

My son has been going through a lot. He has been vomiting every few nights for almost 3 months now, having lots of diarrhea, and weird stools, but during the day is 100% happy and healthy and eats normally (for a 2 year old). The other day, his stool was black mucous like and had things that looked exactly like red kidney beans in it. I have been going through so much with him, that I decided to mush the bean looking things and they mushed just like an uncooked bean. He has not eaten anything that looks remotely like them. The pediatrician just wants me to wait and see if it happens again and we do have a g.i. specialist appointment later this month, but I would LOVE to know what is going on with my baby!

Replied by Debbie
(Melbourne, Australia)

What is his diet like?


Posted by Jennifer (Venice, California) on 04/12/2011

The past few days I have had a weird cell-phone like vibration on the left side of my pelvic area. It feels like a cell phone is vibrating there! It doesn't happen all the time, just on and off mostly when I am standing or walking. I put my symptoms into google and it turns out that many women experience the same thing! Funny that they all describe it as a phantom cell phone vibration! The closest thing I can find out about this mystery vibration is that it may be fasiculations of the pelvic floor muscles or a problem with the psoas muscle. The most successful treatment appears to be a chiropractic maniuplation. I have had some sciatica issues off and on over the past few years, but nothing too serious. Besides visiting a chiropractor which I will do if this doesn't stop, does anyone have any remedy suggestions that might help? Thank you very much. Oh there it goes again. I guess it happens sitting down too! 1 second, then stops. Ovary region. Help!

Replied by Sand
(Atlanta, Ga)

Had a fluttering feeling in my left pubic area(maybe this is what you're describing as a "cell phone vibration") Don't think mine was that strong but definitely felt something. Found out later through ultrasound that a fibroid was found in that area on the uterus and on the cervix. Your situation could be totally different but you may want to check into it.


Posted by Jmh (North Pole, Ak) on 11/15/2010

Several years ago I had a case of what I think was athletes foot. I was able to get rid of it, but then I developed a skin problem on my feet which includes burning, tingling, a "crawling" feeling on my soles, shiny redness, and extreme sensitivity to pressure - if I kick something, it hurts many times more than it should! Has anyone ever seen or heard of this and if so, have you found something that works to get rid of it?

Replied by Kelly
(Cinti, Ohio)

Hi JMH, I can tell you what I used to treat a big toe that had athletes foot fungus so bad that squeezing the toenail caused a brown pus to come out from under the toenail (sorry to be so graphic) and the toenail itself was black. Believe it or not, from advise of a poster on EC, I took about a tbsp. of vapo-rub (brand no-matter) and mixed it with a crushed clove of garlic (fresh). Wait 10 min after crushing garlic before mixing to get full benefit of enzyme. I kid you not, there was a dramatic change in just 24 hrs. Totally gone in 1.5 to 2 days. I forgot to mention, I also wrapped the toe in a loose but secure bandage. If you suspect fungus as the culprit try this. It is harmless to you but, great to kill fungus. Make up a bit of it (about 3 tbsp. vapo rub w/a clove or 2 of garlic crushed and layer on foot w/a sock on ovenight.

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