Periodontitis Remedies

Hello -

Please post this as applicable. I would suggest it be added to the Gum Disease category.

I went to my dentist about my a painful spot on my gums. He said I had some inflammation there, and he prescribed me to apply a bit of ozonated olive oil to that spot using a dental stick. It worked very well! The ozone kills any bacteria and the pain was gone within days.

Hi ya debbie,

Thank you so much for the article, very interesting, I have noted down the name niacin. I received my perio mouth wash today, After waiting for a week to be delivered. Full of organic herbs such as Green tea, Echinacea, olive leaf, Oregano, plus a lot more. thankyou.

Diamond I came across this the other day.

This an excerpt, from Dr. Abram Hoffer the full article in the link below:

Niacin, Coronary Disease and Longevity
by Abram Hoffer, M. D. , Ph.D.

Background
In 1954, it was impossible to predict or even to think that my bleeding gums would one day, 31 years later, lead to additional useful life to people with coronary disease related to cholesterol and lipid metabolism. That year, malocclusion of my teeth had broken down the ability of my gum tissue to repair itself quickly enough. Because my bite was not correct there was too much wear and tear on tooth sockets and my gums began to bleed. No amount of vitamin C and no amount of dental repair helped. Eventually I reconciled myself to the idea I would soon have all my teeth extracted.

But at this time I had been treating schizophrenics and seniles and a few other diseases with niacin, and I began also to take this vitamin, 1 gram after each meal, I. E. three grams per day. I did so because I wanted to experience the flush which comes when one first takes niacin and its gradual waning with continuing use so I could discuss this reaction more knowledgeably with my patients. There was also a legal issue - most doctors' defence against malpractice suits is that they were doing what any other similar physician would do it like circumstances. If I were sued (I have never been sued) because of unusual discomfort or because of adverse effects from niacin, I would not be able to use that defence since only a handful of physicians had ever used these large quantities of niacin. I had concluded that if the unlikely did occur and I was charged with malpractice, one of my defences would be that I had tried it myself for at least three months without suffering any serious consequences. I must admit I had not discussed this with any litigation lawyer. My reasons were therefore both practical and paranoid. I had no intention of treating myself or my bleeding gums.

hi , im reporting back my feedback

Went to the dentist yesterday, I was oil pulling with coconut oil from 21st may, not good, gums were pinker, but gaps no change, plus another tooth was receding, I was also taking coenzyme q 10 30mg 3 x daily, also vitamin c and zinc lozenges. 600mg 1 a day. Brushing with aloe vera tooth paste, 2x daily, and chlorhexidine gluconate mouthwash. Fed up. Went back to health shop, they told me to increase to 6 a day with the coenzyme q 10 30 mg. That seems alot to me, I will increase it to 4 a day, plus still to take vitamin c and zinc lozenges, take 2 a day, I walked out of the health shop with pure vitamin c powder it says 2500mg per serving. I'll just rub a small bit on my gums, plus I got vitamin e-400 I.U. To take internally, and to rub on my gums, thats only 1 a day. ill let u know my feedback, my dentist wants me back 2nd august, I really do not want to go, cause I know whats next to happen, I honestly hope what I am going to take will cure my problems, bye for now.x

Sounds to be me like you need to use a remineralizing toothpaste. There is a natural one available at retail; you can find it by looking up "remineralisation of teeth" at Wikipedia and clicking on the fourth choice under "See Also".

hi debbie,

i got a bottle of vitamin c and zinc lozenges 600 mg, I take one every morning. Before breakfast been taking these for over 2 weeks now. Also I managed to get hydrogen peroxide 3%. Which I have started today. Swilling round my mouth. thanks.

I have used MMS for about 5 years. I don't use it continuously but as the need arises. I can say that by mixing 3 drops with 15 drops of citric acid and then adding some distilled water, that I have a very good dental pain reliever. You may pass on this item if you wish, but I can say with certainty that swishing this has brought me pain relieve and kept me out of the oral surgeons and dentist's office. I use it as part of my oral care regimen. If I am experiencing any symptoms at all, I use this concoction to brush my teeth. I have also rid myself of body chills injesting for about 2 or 3 weeks. I believe that I rid myself of a low grade infection by doing so. Lastly I reduced arthitic symptoms by injesting. I use very sparingly and have had good success.

hi debbie,

I went to my local health shop two weeks ago, and got vitamin c and zinc lozenges, 600mg I take 1 in the morning. thank you.

Hi Diamond, please note also that gingivitis can also be a symptom of a vitamin c deficiency. Taking vitamin c supplements will also be beneficial for your gums.

Thanks jennifer,

The company hasnt got back to me yet, I just hope they get my email on time, before they send the 35% peroxide. If its to late ill have to order the 3%, I cant believe ive done that, im back at the dentist approx 4 to 5 weeks, which gives me at least a month use of peroxide. I have wrote down the amount I have to take. thank you, bye for now.

Hi Diamond, Yes, only use the 3%. Hydrogen peroxide can be tough on your enamel. Never use it straight because it's too strong - I fill 1/4 of the glass with hydrogen peroxide and 3/4 with water, but you can experiment to find a level that works for you. As an added bonus it will whiten your teeth (and so will the oil pulling). You can skip the sea salt, to be honest I don't think it's the most effective part of the routine for me, but for some people it really helps. Stick with the routine for at least a month to see results. Good luck!

ah dear, I think I have only ordered the the wrong strenght, in hydrogen peroxide ive ordered 35% instead of 3%, I have emailed the company to see if it has been released, I did explain what it was for, to treat ginivitus, hope they can sort this out, wah a mess, my gums are really sore at the minute, im gonna leave oil pulling for a few days, when I look at my gums now, they do look pinkish, but my gums look like they are receeding more, one tooth at the front of my my mouth wasnt receding but it is now, my heads in bits.x

hi ya, i ordered of the internet last night, food grade hydrogen peroxide h202 35% in a 250ml bottle. I dont think there is a dropper with it, ill have to go to local chemist for one. How do I use this as a Mouth Wash? Is it one drop in a large glass of water? Then swilling for a minute. please advise thank you.

hi jennifer,

Thanks for getting back to me, I will continue the coconut oil awhile longer, I probably aint given it enough time, it has only been 12 days and counting. But like us all, we do worry. I have got some extra virgin olive oil at home, i'll get some wild of oregano oil, putting one drop on my toothbrush mixed with olive oil, also I will purchase a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and pepermint oil.

As for the sea salt, I think i'll give that a miss as I have never had palpitations before. I'll stick to table salt for now, only for swishing before I go to bed. Thank you so much. and thanks to everyone else whom have got back to me quickly with great feedbacks. bye for now.

Hi Diamond,

EarthClinic won't let me post the name of the particular brand, but I use a generic brand from a very famous natural foods grocery store in the US. It's an untoasted, organic, expeller pressed sesame oil that is unrefined (I have heard though that it's better to oil pull with refined than unrefined oil). You can also try experimenting with other oils if you find that one is not agreeable with you - go to the oil pulling page on this website and see what other people have tried, the options are endless! Sesame oil has been the traditional oil used in Ayurveda, but some people have had success with using coconut, olive, avocado, and other oils. If the sea salt gives you palpitations, it's probably best not to use it. Here in the US, hydrogen peroxide can be found at almost any major drugstore in the first aid section and a bottle costs under $1. Make sure you dilute the HP, because it can be tough on your enamel (but as a great side effect, hydrogen peroxide is a great teeth whitener! ). Give the oregano oil a try too, I had great results after incorporating it into my routine. Be patient and give yourself at least a month to see results. I wish you luck and good health :)

Swmich, it is called oil "pulling" because theoretically, you are "pulling" toxins from your saliva (and your body) by swishing the oil around in your mouth. These 'toxins' are supposedly expelled with the oil when you spit the oil out. I don't know if I really believe that. What seems more logical to me is that oil saponifies when agitated and acts as a good cleansing agent, attaching to plaque, bacteria and food debris on your teeth and gums more easily than with standard toothpaste. Scientific studies have shown a reduction of strep bacteria in the mouth after oil pulling - whether this is due to the "pulling" or the antibacterial nature of the sesame oil, who knows... but oil pulling does seem to work! Hope this answers your question.

I have a hard time believing that swishing a bit of water with salt in your mouth can lead to health problems. Maybe the mixture you used was the wrong one or maybe the palpitations had another reason. I think that people connect too much of what happen to them to something new they are trying out, no matter how harmless! If you drink a glass of water, for example, and have a headache later on should you connect it to the glass of water you drank earlier on? No.... Exactly my point! If I were you I would try again and see what happens, most probably nothing at all!

hi ya jennifer,

Thank you for your feedback, that all sounds very good, with really positive results, could you tell me what sesame oil you are using, I used sea salt from a health shop, but felt terrible after 2 days, I diluted a teaspoon in a cup of water, then swilled round my mouth at night, then I spat it out. I had really bad palpitations, that really scared me, didnt use again ended up in my bin, I will get some oregano oil this week, and hydrogen peroxide, ill check the health shops to see if they ave it. Thank you

Where did the term "oil pulling" come from. What do they mean by "pulling"?

I'm a former skeptic become oil pulling convert! Before oil pulling, I had advanced gum disease, and I'm only 29. My mother and I are something of a legend in dentist's offices - every dentist we have gone to has commented that me and my mother's plaque problems are the worst they have ever seen. I curse genetics for that - we have good oral hygeine habits, but unfortunately people who are genetically predisposed are 6 times more likely to develop gum disease than those who aren't - even with aggressive oral hygeine habits. I tried all different kinds of mouthwashes, toothpastes, even the Sonic toothbrush, nothing helped. The last time I went to my dentist, my dentist commented that my gum disease has progressed to the verge of periodontal disease. She said that it is really sad to see a person my age have such serious gum disease and told me, "You know, you still have time to turn the health of your gums around, but if you don't do it soon, you are going to spend a lifetime of pain and expensive procedures". What she said really stuck with me, and I knew I had to try something different.

Even though I am a faithful follower of Ayurveda, I was always hesitant to try oil pulling, because honestly, it sounded a little ridiculous. As a law student, I'm a little bit of a trained skeptic - and the idea of swishing oil in my mouth curing a host of diseases sounded completely illogical. But after reading the testimonials on this page, I figured, what do I have to lose? Sesame oil is very inexpensive and it doesn't require a lot of effort to incorporate oil pulling into my routine - I could just swish it in my mouth for 20 minutes while I take a shower or do my makeup. So I figured what the heck and I gave it a try. At first it was a little difficult and it made me gag, but after a few tries I got the hang of it. I just take about a tablespoon full in my mouth and spit it out once I'm done with my makeup routine.

From the first day, I noticed a huge difference in the feeling of cleanliness in my mouth, the freshness of my breath, and even my teeth seemed whiter! The freshness lasts all day, and I even wake up in the morning with fresh breath! No more funky breath at mid-day. After a few weeks I noticed that some of my front teeth that were becoming a little bit loose had anchored into my gums firmly. My gums that were beginning to recede are slowly starting to grow back, and my gums stopped bleeding during normal brushing.

After oil pulling for a few weeks, I decided to ramp up the results by following the oil pulling with a hydrogen peroxide rinse (half hydrogen peroxide, half water, a big pinch of sea salt and 1 or 2 drops of peppermint oil for taste). Now, I also put one drop of oregano oil (diluted with olive oil) on my toothbrush. After using the oregano oil for a week or two, my gums started turning a healthy pink color. The oregano oil is really strong - so go easy on it. Only one drop is really all you need.

The results have really been something of a miracle. Not only has it appeared that I have almost completely reversed my advanced gum disease that I've had for almost a decade (I will confirm that when I see my dentist), but like many other oil pullers, I have much more energy in the morning and I just feel really energetic and healthy overall. Not only that, but my acne that I've had since I was 13 has completely disappeared, and my skin looks really healthy and glowing. Like my dentist told me, the health of your mouth is connected to the health of your entire body - as scientific studies are proving (gum disease is already been proven to be linked to strokes and heart disease - do the research yourself! ). Science is beginning to prove what Ayurvedic teachers have been saying for thousands of years - "disease begins in the mouth". So, if we want to cure our body of disease - the mouth might be a good place to start.

If you are reading this and are skeptical like I was, ask yourself, what do you have to lose? It's a remedy that costs pennies a day, has no health risks, and it can potentially save you thousands of dollars in painful and expensive dental work. On top of that, it can save your health - and it goes without saying that good health doesn't have a price.

I wanted to pass along my story to help another person like me. Thank you everyone at Earth Clinic for all of your wisdom, and best wishes to all of you for happiness and good health! :)

hi ya,

ive been oil pulling now for 1 week, to treat gintivitus, my friend asked me how I was doing. I showed her my gums, she then said they look light pink now, but no change with the gaps from my gum to my teeth, I think the pure coconut oil must be doing something, as it is working on my gums, my gums have been really sore the past 2 days only were the gum has come away from my teeth, and really sore when I swallow, been swishing with salt and water, to settle this, I will continue to do oil pulling, just hope its good news at the end, bye for now.

to mysticgardener: would you please share where you found online information about dentist and using salt. Thank you

Weleda has a toothpaste with sea salt but there are others. When I started using it I never had a coated tongue again. My teeth are not whiter though which is a pity. As I drink a lot of tea they get very brown.

A few years back I had a terrible problem with gum disease and had to have 3 teeth pulled. After that I had to go back for four sessions of root planing. (cleaning around the root and under the gumline). After I had the first two sessions done, I heard a retired dentist online say that the best thing for your dental health is salt! He also said he would never have dared say this while still practicing!

So I started brushing with sea salt and when I went back for the third session, the hygienist was just barely scraping, doing more talking than anything. She started to talk about how much my mouth had improved and that she had never seen anything like it! THEN she said I would NOT HAVE TO COME BACK for the fourth session!

Six months passed and I went back for a routine cleaning. AGAIN, she exclaimed about how much my dental health had improved since the first time she had seen me. I still didn't tell her what I was doing. I just said I was brushing longer like she had told me to do.

Six months after that I went back and had the same results. At that point, I told her my secret! She truly acted like she had never heard of it. This retired dentist I listened to online said salt kills the bacteria that causes gum disease. I now use an herbal toothpaste with no fluoride, and from time to time I will run my tongue around my teeth, and if I feel any plaque on the teeth, I will brush them with salt and it comes right off.

I now brush with salt about once a week, just for good maintenance. I believe this will save the rest of my teeth and thousands of dollars! My teeth have also gradually gotten whiter, and I no longer worry about bad breath. At first I worried the salt might take off the enamel but this has obviously not happened! I was so grateful to learn of this because my dentist told me they could not guarantee I would not lose the rest of my teeth, even with the root planing. That was the 3rd time I had root planing done and it is very expensive, and it obviously wasn't fixing the problem since I had to keep having it done every 7 or 8 years!

They tried to insinuate that I had gum disease because I was not brushing and flossing on a regular basis which was absolutely not true! I was extremely vigilant about both and had been my whole life! Let's continue to get the truth out there folks and keep our money where it belongs!

I've been using turmeric powder for a year and my gums no longer bleed during washing. Ocassionally I get lazy and do not brush my teeth before bedtime as I get too tired. This happened for a couple of times and immediately after when I brush my teeth, there will be bleeding along the gumlines. Luckily I have turmeric with me and after 2 days, the bleeding will stop. Must remember that we need to brush and floss our teeth on a morning and night basis to ensure that plaque material is broken up on a daily basis.

what type of oil were you using? I noticed on your improvement chart the following results:

5 mm. Pockets: went from 9 to 4

4 mm. Pockets: went from 6 to 7

Do you mean 5 went from 9-4

4 went from 6-7?

Thanks for info I'm trying oil pulling I have some major pockets and severe bone loss. Will this help rebuild bone?

hello I was just reading all of this wonderful information of bee propolis and I was just wondering, since I can't seem to find any 30% anywhere is it safe to use the 50%? and also they have either alcohol free or water based and I was wondering which one I should get. Thanks

I had my gum pockets measured in Jan. 2010 and again in April 2011. According to my dentist, pockets don't improve on their own - they just get deeper. Except for a 6 week break, I've been oil pulling in the time between the examinations. I haven't had any other gum treatment. I think the facts are pretty clear. The number of deep pockets has significantly reduced.

7 mm. Pockets: went from 2 to 0

6 mm. Pockets: went from 2 to 0

5 mm. Pockets: went from 9 to 4

4 mm. Pockets: went from 6 to 7

I no longer need expensive, unpleasant gum scaling. Big thumbs up!

Did you ingest it or swish it in your mouth. How long did you use it and what dose?

thanks, karl

Hi Jane. I too do the oil-pulling, peroxide and baking soda for mouth health. But I also add salt (using kosher presently)to the mix. Using this method keeps the teeth, tongue, gums and everything in the mouth in great shape. It also aids in fighting the bacteria that causes bad-breath. I do this routine at least once a day. I am thinking about doing this maybe twice, once in the morning and again before bed.

Hi Jean, do you use undiluted HP to rinse your teeth with? Which strength?

Jane, I don't think that you need to find liquid coconut oil which you won't find if it is pure as it solidifies in colder temperatures. When you put it in your mouth it will liquidify in a few seconds anyway!

I Totally agree!! My gums and crowns are being cleared of the bacteria that lodges under the crowns. NO ROOT CANAL!! Sorry Doc LOL. Love it. Also one receding gum is coming down tighter and it was said it would never happen. I have been using organic food grade sesame oil (not oil that flavors food dishes)but I am looking for coconut in liquid form. Spit oil in the commode. It has virus's, bacteria, parasites and only God knows what. Helps whiten teeth as well.

This is a follow-up to my last post. It's been three months and I am on my third bottle of 50ml of liquid Olive Leaf Extract as suggested by Jay. I take it daily in water. I visited the dentist last week and was told that I still have bleeding when they poke the gum at a specific tooth. It was disappointing to hear to say the least but I will continue taking Olive Leaf Extract for a while yet. I do notice that I feel like I have the beginning of a sore throat sometimes. It is very mild. I hope it is doing something. I have not given up yet. Maureen

Nay! I use the 1/2 peroxide 1/2 water solution (brush then rinse well)on a daily basis for halitosis which has worked WONDERS!! However, it's done absolutely nothing for my swollen bleeding gums right behind my 2 front teeth. I've been using this solution for about a year. Going to try baking soda from now on and will post my results!

Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but I found this after a google search.

Dynamite Milkshake (I found the orig book!)

2 C skim milk (or equiv in powder form)
1 TBL safflower oil
2 pks sugar sub
1 teas vanilla
Start blender on low, then add:
**4 heap TBL powder yeast
4 Heap TBL gran. Lecithin

** start w/ 1/2 teas yeast & every few days increase the amount. Blend all & refridge overnight (improves the taste) then re-blend & drink in the AM. It's a meal substitute, but you can add fruit. Brewers yeast is best to use, If it's been de-bittered, it looses nutrition. Do NOT use bakers yeast.