AFIB.............. HI U OLE PATOOTS,,,,,,,,,,,,,, let me tell you a story about treating AFIB with only natural supplements. I did that for a few years because my natural doctor was treating his AFIB wife with Nattokinase. Now this it a good product, but may not be the total answer. Today I went in for a Vit C IV in prep for my heart ablation procedure in a few weeks. I want to be in the best shape for this invasive procedure. I made this decision and could care less if my heart doctor knows. I call these shots. Plan to do 3 IV's before he address' my heart ablation. What has shaken me up us that my natural doctor's wife in now in a wheel chair following a stroke and many TIA's. What I also know is that she was head strong and would not take his advice ...ever. They are Baptist, but she undoubtably never understood that the man had 51% control. For you Feminist, you need to understand the load this 51% puts you under, is nothing but hard times, you are ultimately responsible for everything that goes wrong in the family. So here is where I am. Sometimes you have to listen and do what the traditional doctor say to do. My AFIB is now under better control with Rx, but the pills keep me feeling badly. I want to do this ablation to get off one Rx that is the culprit. I will still have to keep my blood thinned, and accept that. The Lone Ranger is long gone and he took his silver bullet with him. There are few simple solutions for life's health problems. Now to my garden stuff. Got a new neighbors that are as country as me. We are trying to out give one another. Took them some fresh corn this morning and told the wife that I need to be the winner and keep them obligated to me. Don't like being obligated to others. She just laughed and said ....... we'll see. ATS,,,,,,,,,,, ====ORH====
HEART PROCEDURE SCHEDULED HI U OLE PATOOTS,,,,,,,,,,,,,, who said I can't be charming. Met with my electrical cardiologist yesterday and he agreed to go with my heart ablation if I get through the rigors of a few tests. He agreed to this after I have given him a pint of my Tractor Driver's Blackberry Jelly. The Louisiana Cajuns call it Lagniappe. It is a gift for someone when you visit. The thing about garden stuff is that most folks know it's value is in the toil it took to give it to you. I have done this my entire life and the treat comes back ten fold. The bible tells us that. The Rxs have my AFIB under control, but I feel like I've been run over by a Mac truck since taking all these pills. My dad had AFIB because he had destroyed his lungs smoking and he could not get enough oxygen. Back in those days when he went into AFIB and could not get out, then old doc Ranier came to our house and took a handkerchief and tried to pull his tongue out. Sometimes that worked. If not, then he took his thumbs and pushed on his eyeballs. Sometimes that worked. If not , then he stood him up in front of a bed and hit him in the heart as hard as he could with his fist. That always worked. Dad never went to the ER for AFIB because there was no ER in those days.. Ole Doc Ranier just came to the house. Dad's demise was a stroke following an AFIB. I told my doctor that I had done a lot of research before selecting him. He wanted to know what I had found. You got A+ on skills, but do not have good bedside manners. He laughed and said that applied to most all doctors. I did not tell him that is the reason most of my doctors are women. They listen. As all know I have tried to solve my ails naturally over the years. But sometimes you need to see a doctor. This was my time to do so. ====ORH====
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nothing is working on my AFIB problem, so I have a plan. My main guy tells me now that I need an arterial gram. I see him in two weeks and will agree with that even though I tested zero 7 years ago and have continued my EDTA CHELATIONS. This is all BS, but what you have to go through to solve your problem. If I have no pluggage then , I want an electrical MD involved. My problem is electrical . This is a a heck of a note when you have to solve you own medical problem. I have been down this trail for some 10 years. It has been one helluva pissin contest. My guy says he can solve the problem with drugs. He may can, but an electrical solution may solve the problem permanently and over night. I go Monday and talk to my Nurse RATCHET. I have found the women listen and men don't. My Tractor Driver is going with me because my life is getting about as interesting as I can stand. Hey, I have lived a full life and me and the Lord gee haw. If i go out............ then I go to a better place. ====ORH=====
(TEN MILE, TN)
(West of Hawaii, South of Japan.)
AFIB,,,,,,,,,,, too vain to tell you birds how I ended up a day in ER and two days in ICU. I got a problem far more serious than I once thought. On Tues my blood pressure and pulse went out the roof and my cayenne extract trick would not work. Finally, I capitulated and went to the ER in Athens, Tn. For about 5 hours neither, I nor the medically folks, could make it move. My pulse had has a mind of its own. It stayed at 180 full time for about 5 hours. I thought I was a goner. The rest would end up all on my ATS', but still no conclusion, so I won't go into that. What is so amazing to me is that anything now sends my pulse to 180, but it comes right back down. It does not stay up. If any of you ole patoots have a clue, I'd appreciate the knowledge. I got a feeling that I am a stressed out old geezer and just needs to turn off the TV, computer, EC and go fishing. ====ORH====
(Ten Mile, TN)
I suffer from A-Fib. I have it 24/7 but I have cut it down to a smooth rhythm with just a salt tablet, plain sodium chloride tablet you can but OTC or online at Amazon. I got the idea from taking liquid hydration for muscle cramps and running to the bathroom hoping I would not leave a trail. I think it was due to high potassium levels & not enough sodium in pure form in controlled amount but it did what no MD could do in a day, no less, it started to smooth out, it`s not perfect but vast improvement.
A foot note, US Soldiers in areas of high temperature in SE Asia had to take a salt pill every day to keep from dehydration & an anti malaria pill hydroxychloroquinee daily to prevent malaria. No reported side effects either.
(St Joseph, MI)
Slullcap tincture definitely helps with A Fib symptoms - I don't take it every day because it makes me hungry for some reason, I just take it when my symptoms flare up and it helps - Skullcap and also magnesium chloride liquid.
At last I can finally say I have cured my a fib. I had tried every thing there was to cure it in the past and nothing worked. I had all day everyday 24 hour a fib. It was worse at night when I would wake up with my heart racing, or when I laid down to sleep I heard the thumping in my ear drum. For all that are serious about a cure, the vitamins, are useless, the juicing helps, all other supplements do not make a dent in the problem. The cure I found was to remove toxic acids from the body, mostly from the colon. The best way to do that is with sodium bentonite clay. I try to take 5 tablespoons each day but it is not easy to do at at times it can be contipating but the body rids itself of acids and toxins with good healthy large bowel movements. It will take time, mine was 6 months before noticeable improvement, and for some 6 months to 2 years and it should be continued for as long you want to keep the body clean and toxin free. Also with the bentonite it is vital to take probiotics. Healing begins in the colon and healing is a longer process than what many want but we did not get Afib overnight and will not cure it overnight. I have suggested this to others on other websites but they say I did not cure myself and that I am wrong yet they still suffer. I suspect there may be others that say the same here, but for those that want relief, do it and you will be cured as I am.
Here is my latest information. [older posts under Alkaline Diet in the A-Fib section]
I have suggested previously that my afib was caused by toxic blood and that my PH was off. I have since put it all together even more and have cured my afib with a simply effective therapy. Since it is my belief AFIB is an over acid condition caused by poor gut function, poor adrenal function, poor diet, etc I have addressed those issues. Anyone can see the things I have tried over the years and believe me no one supplement will do it, but a long term therapy will. My final solution to this problem is unique and maybe a bit unusual for those not as familiar with this monster as I am. I take bentonite clay and probiotics as my major therapy. The bentonite pulls the toxins and acids from the body and the probiotics creates healing conditions in the colon. None of this comes in a short time this takes over a year of work. The bentonite is the best thing to draw acids from the body, and those acids create conditIons when the heart surface tissue becomes inflamed and irritated resulting in what we know as afib. I take sodium bentonite in a liquid bentonite from a well known company that supplies the product. First use of bentonite can cause constipation so use should be for 3 days on 4 days off until one gets used to it.Probiotics should be a good brand like Key or dr Ohhiras. If one wants to speed the process a bit diet change can come to play, maybe not a radical as mine since I have become mostly vegetarian. It takes time to heal the monster give yourself a year at least. For more information on this and to get products one can look up unique healing on youtube or simply buy your own wherever you like. It works for me and should work for you.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
AFib: I had the most success when I began using Dr.Carolyn Dean's "ReMag" & "ReMyte" which you can find on her website which helped with the magnesium deficiency and mineral deficiency as per Dr. Dean. But the other supplement to absolutely try is Taurine! I take 1500-2000mg a day in 2 doses A.M. and P.M. It was a life saver!
Off the meds now except for a very small dose of metapropol (12.5). I also take Hawthorn, Fish oil, and "Heart Calm" from "Vitabiologics"(2 capsules a day) and a few other basic supplements(Vit c, etc) that I always took! I would advise anyone to get on these and see the results!
Good luck to all and a big "Thank You" to"Earth Clinic" because that is where I found it all!!!!!
EC: Pat, thank you for sharing with us with the names of the supplements that have helped you. Congratulations on finally getting results! We know how hard you, Hwkmn05 and Bee have been working to figure out a cure for a-fib for a long time now!
(North Little Rock, Arkansas)
(Ten Mile , Tn)
Afib - I was reading the posts from everyone and thought I would try the taurine and l arginine, magnesium etc. and I really think it is helping. I have tried other supplements but these seem to help. I will let you know if it is long lasting! Also taking something called serrinisol for adrenal fatigue which is also a possibility since this all began around menopause for me. They say it lowers my cortisol count. Whatever it is hope it keeps on working! Thanks to all of you.you know more than the doctors!
I am on a regimen of supplements to control my AF I am going into my 5th year with. I had never gotten back to NSR without cardioversion, one time in AF for 14 days and scoped for clots before CV'd. Not something I wanted to depend on for life not to mention a large co pay. Of course after my last episode in March, cardios wanted me on a high dosage of flecainide daily. I wouldnt mind a PIP of it, but their words were, "Indefinitely" set me searching for alternatives. At that point I sought out a Naturopathic doctor. Asked, can you keep me in NSR or get me back to it with supplements. He was confident he could. I weaned off the meds in 2months and got on Mg, CoQ10, Hawthorne, Taurine, DHA, Zinc, Rib rose, B12, Iodine, and L-carnitine.
I got the test a few weeks ago waking up at 430am in AF. Heart rate was lower than usual episodes I think in part to being on the MG and Hawth, 80-100. I did five times my usual daily amount along with a tincture of cayenne for 4 hours. I was determined not to go to ER or try the PIP flec. At hour 5, I returned to NSR for the first time ever without doctor or cardiaoversion. Called ND and he was ecstatic wanting to know the exact dosage and what I took. He thought it was all good, but believed it was more the Mg and Hawthorne berry that did the trick.
My mother has atrial fib and is 87 years old and is doing well on taking a magnesium supplement 100mg, CO enzyme 10 - 100 mg and Calcium tables twice a day. She is on a low dose beta blocker and a blood thinner as well. Her sister is 88 years old and on the same medications and vitamins listed above with atrial fib and still uses a bicycle to get around in Germany. In addition, I found a yoga exercise used for cardiac problems that is supposed to help reverse atrial fib. The exercise is to cover your left nostril of your nose with a finger of your left hand and slowly release any air in your lungs. Then switch to close the right nostril with the same left finger and breath in slowly with your left nostril for a count of 5-7 secs, then alternate and let the air out of the right nostril - continue to do this for about 10 tries. And try to do this on a daily basis or when stressed.
(Los Angeles, CA)
(Beech Bluff, Tn)
I had Atrial Fibrillation and whenever my heart got going real fast, I would take a teaspoon of tobasco sauce. I was taking the hydrogen peroxide in the morning and the tobasco sauce killed the taste. I did get the procedure but I still wonder if I could have got by without it. The tobasco sauce was because it was the only source of Cayene pepper I had.
LASALOCID, veterinary antibiotic residues of the IONOPHORE class found in all meat and dairy, eggs and poultry. See http://www.freewebs.com/lasalocid
Also I found that porridge oats caused the exact same effect as the lasalocid - I thought it could have become cross contaminated with some animal feed so I abandoned the porridge and no more AF. Wheat may be causing ectopics too. Not sure if it's pesticide related or gluten or something else but ectopics are much reduced since going wheat free.
(Los Alamos, New Mexico)
I was able to reduce my afib with a drop of clear potassium iodide and more protein (red meat). However, if I get it, 100 or sometimes 200 mgs of tryptophan completely eradicates it. This answer came to me through a dream. Strange, I know!
I have started taking about 50 mg of tryptophan before bed and I sleep great. I don't know why it works so well in my case for afib!!!! Might be worth a try. I am using a pretty low dose. I've had afib since I was 3 years old. I agree that taurine is good too. But that didn't actually stop my afib. Tryptophan completely stops it within an hour!!!!
Hope this helps someone!