Turpentine Side Effects
Hi all! Love the abundance of information I'm getting from this website. I just wanted to go ahead and put in my little two cents. I followed Dr. Daniel's protocol strictly so that included restricting my diet for five days BEFORE and during the turpentine. Also making sure I have 100 percent PURE gum of spirits because she said the one at home depot may not be pure. (I bought mine off of amazon.) Also above all making sure to have three bowel movements every day before and during the turpentine regimen because all the parasites and candida need to EXIT the body when you are killing them off or else things can get worse. SO I made sure of all these things. I personally remember staying hungry on the restricted diet so I was pretty much getting a high dose to my blood stream when I first took it. That took it to my brain, and that fact leads me to believe that may have been the reason I felt homicidal the next couple of days. LIKE I literally wanted to kill people who pissed me off and I also had one or two thoughts that I, myself, wanted to die. HOW'S THAT for side effects? I BELIEVE it may have been the chemicals being released from my dying enemies that resided in my body influencing those thoughts. Just as they've been influencing my choice of food consumption for the past decade or more. We already know they can do that, why not this too? Cheers
Hi Enjera! I do believe the homicidal/suicidal feelings were indeed caused by die-off chemicals, as I too, experienced this when taking food-grade DE (diatomaceous earth) to try and rid my body of parasites. I couldn't even tolerate 1/8-1/4 of a tsp when most people start with 1 tsp, at least. However, I didn't prep with any detoxing or diet back then.
Thanks so much for your comment, so I know this may happen again when I try the turpentine. It's on order and I will really start out slow on the turp to try and not feel so horrible. I was more in danger of hurting myself, and having graphic visions of many different ways to do it! It was terrible, and I'm sorry you had similar side effects. It's good to be aware that this kind of thing can happen with any major die-off of parasites/pathogens in the body.
I loved your your two cents and I'm going to consider this. I remember grandma putting turpentine on her finger and would rub a circle around the belly button and then rub another dose down the front of our throat but I can't remember which one she did first because she would say and you don't want them to rise. I can't remember if she had it on our throat first and then around the belly button or vice versa but she always said if you do it wrong it will cause them to come up in your throat. Parasites is what I'm speaking about. I'm 46 years old and here in the past couple of days I have had those childhood symptoms at night, feeling the wiggle right at the exit and I've been without energy. I've had all the symptoms and I just don't know how well I do know how person can contract this me and my husband would you eat out a lot so thank you so very much for your time encouraged me to go ahead
Hello Enjera, 90% of our nervous system are in our intestines, only 10% is in our brain. Parasites are connected to are nervous system and they control our emotions, eating habits even our thinking. It is very normal to feel death at the time of parasite cleansing because you feel what they feel.
Hi Enjera, you said you felt like you wanted to kill someone after you took the turpentine. have you ever taken medication in the past? I am wondering if those feelings were a cleaning out of some meds, just a thought. thanks.
Hi! Thank you for your comments Enjera.
I am not feeling homicidal, but it may be because I have chosen to take the 2 sugar cubes with 1 teaspoon Turpentine before I go to bed. When I started the regime in the morning before breakfast it made me very tired with a hang over type headache which prevented me from having a full day. Being self employed I found it not conducive; therefore, I switched my daily consumption time. I too am following Dr. D's protocols as set forth by my naturopath. I purchased the brand suggested through Amazon as well. I am experiencing being very thirsty which I have read is normal. My insatiable desire for sweets has finally stopped. I am on day 4 of a 7 day treatment period following the advice of my naturopath. This morning I woke very hungry. I ate slowly and have continued to consume water throughout my day. I normally drink half my body weight in ounces but since starting the Turpentine protocol, my water consumption has increased. The bloating of my upper stomach has diminished noticeably. I am told by my naturopath that is due to the candida die off.
Today, in the early afternoon, my mind and thinking was so clear and sharp. I felt incredible and it lasted throughout my day. My eye sight has changed. I am seeing better. Has anyone else experienced that?
What a wonderful account.
I'm on day 4 of my turpentine cure hopefully that my 10 year Candida sickness is leaving. Feeling good today not having those feelings that U experienced but can certainly say have experienced them in the past.
Turpentine Side Effects
In response to people asking for side effects on turpentine info...I am a 46-year-old female who started Diamond G Forest turpentine treatment last Wednesday for Candida, and I guess without enough guidance because I didn't realize you weren't supposed to just keep dosing every day until the Candida was cured. So, I started with 1/2 tsp on 1 tsp organic sugar (and it tastes yummy by the way, like a shot of pine flavoring on sugar) last Wednesday, increased to 3/4 tsp turp on the sugar Saturday, then increased again to a full tsp of turp on the sugar I think Tuesday. So I had a full tsp both this Tuesday and Wednesday, then for whatever reason decided to look up more info about this protocol last night, found this forum, and realized maybe 8 days in a row was not a good idea. :-) However, I feel fine, so apparently 8 days taking it every day didn't kill me. I will now take a break, probably for about a week, and then do the twice-a-week dosing I'm seeing recommended on here.
OK, so side effects: first day was the most noticeable dizziness, started about 30 min after that first 1/2 tsp of turp, lasted about 20 min max. I had slight dizziness a couple of other days, following that same pattern, sets in about 30 min after dosing and lasts 10-20 minutes. For me, not a biggie, kind of amusing actually, but if it were much worse you'd probably need to go lie down for awhile until it subsided.
Nausea, I only noticed very slightly, first day I took turp and then maybe again the first day I did a full teaspoon. Definitely not a big problem.
Gut cramping/urgent bowel movements, daily at least twice after dosing. For me it would happen after eating something, and from what I've been reading on this forum it sounds like that's what's supposed to happen to clean out whatever was killed by the turp. The gut cramping was not a huge deal, much more tolerable than what Candida overgrowth/IBS cause just in general, and I would say overall I'm feeling much better in the gut department after 8 days on turp. As my family would say, it "cleans you out" in a good way.
Diarrhea, I only experienced one day out of the 8. I think about day 5. No biggie. I like getting cleaned out.
Ok, here's a side effect I haven't seen anyone mention - adrenaline surges, as if you had a strong cup of coffee. In fact, I had to back way off of caffeine this past week while taking turp (and my only caffeine these days is green tea and mate; I quit coffee last summer due to bladder pain that at the time I didn't realize was Candida-related) because I was getting anxious/jittery. Turpentine gave me energy, and then some days I crashed later and had to take a nap, just like coffee does to your system.
I should mention as a caveat to this report of side effects that I've been on a Candida-elimination diet as well as doing some over-the-counter cleanses by RenewLife for the past 2.5 months and prior to that have been vegetarian for the past 12 years (but eating pasta, bread, sugar, coffee, alcohol, etc. over those years.) I take no prescription drugs of any kind on a regular basis, take a lot of supplements like barley powder, fiber supplements, etc. and juice vegetables almost every day, and consider myself to be fairly healthy. (I have had several rounds of antibiotics for annual bladder infections since my 20's though so I think that's where the Candida came in.) So for the past 2.5 months I've had no refined sugar, no dairy, no gluten, almost no fruit, limited grains (and only gluten-free, ) maybe 8 oz total of alcohol for the whole 2.5 months, and of course no meat because I'm vegetarian. I've actually felt so much better on this diet that I've decided to go vegan and avoid refined sugar, white flour, and gluten long-term as well, even after the Candida is gone.
And last but not least, improvements or changes after my week and a day of turpentine dosing: the nagging sinus-scratchy cough I get in the back of my throat at least once a day has greatly reduced and maybe disappeared; I have a long-standing benign cyst of some sort on my left forearm under the skin that has reduced in size (wow! ); my IBS (if that's what it was) seems to be changing, getting better, less bloating and constipation; maybe a slight improvement in sinus cloggage; heel pain greatly reduced to gone; energy levels increased somewhat.
So that's it for my turpentine report, hope this helps someone who is thinking about trying it!
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Hi all, I've been reading all the posts with great interest... and have been trying turpentine treatment to help address alopecia totals (an autoimmune issue), which I have had since around this time last year. Having read about the connection between parasites etc, and being able to relate to many of the symptoms, I thought it would be worth a try.
I was taking just less than 1 tsp in 1 tsp of raw sugar daily for about a week. I had to stop about a week ago as I got a little concerned with the ongoing the multiple bowel movements - even though I have not taken any turps for one week I am still getting them although they have now subsided quite a bit. Is this to be expected?
C: Looks like a strong possibility of dirty colon, as per your symptoms. In this event, all sorts of bad stuff penetrates the compromised colon walls and enters the bloodstream where many autoimmune disorders can manifest.
Here is the E.C. page for https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/colon-cleansing.html.
And yes, parasites can cause the colon disorder which causes the ... so multiple disease states can be present and also severe or debilitating. In this case do para cleansing one week then rotate to colon cleansing the next and so on until you make big progress.
Let us know how this works for you.
Turpentine Side Effects
I want to make a point of turpentine. It is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR THE KIDNEYS. I think Bill who is promoting it should tell people about why it was abandoned by the medical industry. It was abandoned because of kidney failures it can cause.
O: I think you are very much overreacting by a chain of mis or dis information.
I have been using Turpentine for about 2 yrs about one dose every other day in a case of extreme parasites & pathogens w/ mostly good results. As for bad results, a strong odor in the urine as well as occasional stress on the kidneys. This is called "die-off" or "herx reaction" as the kidneys take the brunt of the load (millions or billions) of dead pathogens seeking elimination.
To remedy this problem one should fallow the T maybe 4hrs by Dr. Christopher's herbal "Kidney/Bladder Formula". I also use the herb Chaparral w/ good results for clearing the kidneys of waste, as well as the liver. Increasing liquids and natural diuretics like parsley, tea, or coffee would also help.
I don't understand, how can the medical field not promote turpentine bcuz of kidney issues & at the same time prescribe all types of mess that destroy the kidneys, liver etc, such as something called contrast they push in ur veins to cause a CT scan give the dr more info on ur condition, I kno cuz I hve kidney damage from so much that the dr has prescribed for me that was supposed to be helping me.
Then why are you even on this site if not thinking about taking Turpentine??
Hi Martha. I am sorry that you are suffering because of your doctor's "treatment plan." Will your kidneys heal? I pray that they will. I have been sick since July 20,1998. For the most part, my medical care has been substandard, and I have been severely damaged as a result. I appreciate what you are going through. There is a lot of anger involved, and a flood of tears. Good luck to you. I will pray for you, and put you on my prayer chain, if that is okay with you. Get well, Martha.
Turpentine Side Effects
Hi Bill: I have been using turpentine successfully for some time. Now when I take it my teeth turn a black tinge and my tongue turns the same in the middle. Also its like the cells on my tongue get a little longer. its weird and disturbing. Also, it takes about a week without Turpentine for it to go away. I don't want to stop as the results were spectacular.
thanks in advance for any thoughts you have, Mary
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Mary...In my own continued use of turpentine, in all the research and articles I've seen and read, in the autism group that are also using the turpentine protocol, I have never come across those symptoms that you describe when supplementing turpentine.
I have no idea what turpentine dose you are taking so here are some reminders and caveats:
* You should only ever take Turpentine at a maximum frequency of twice a week. The adult dose is 1 teaspoon. Work up to the one teaspoon dose slowly.
* You should also take castor oil with the turps dose. The castor oil dose can vary from 1 tablespoon(mild laxative) to 4 tablespoons(strong laxative). You can mix in a little honey or BSM for taste.
* Under no circumstances should you be taking turpentine continually on a daily basis for extended periods. For serious problems, the maximum number of consecutive days allowed for supplementing turps is 7 days only.
Dr Jennifer Daniels does report that in one case she had a woman who initially ignored her advice and who took too high a dose of turpentine to start with and she had black areas on her skin andface as a result due to excessive detox through the skin. These black areas all disappeared when she reduced her dose. Dr Daniels article is here.
Thank you Bill: you could be right and maybe I took too much. I have since stopped and will be very methodical when I resume. I got mine at home Depot which is where Tony Pantelleresco gets his. He is the Healing With Turpentine Man on You Tube (Canada). Oddly enough I had this same reaction to a product formulated to "Solvent Remove", so somehow I believe this is related to my liver, as the product was full of sulfer type amino acids like NAC, Methionine etc. When I asked my naturopath what happened he had no answer.
Next time I try I will have the Diamond G Forest Products one.
I will report on my progress.
Thank you so much for your time Bill. I always like reading your posts and learn sooo much.
I actually think the main reason the lady's skin turned black was because she had not prepared properly beforehand with a good raw diet, but had not ensured her gut was clear so the toxins had a clear 'escape route'....
Just an additional note to Bill's post:
Dr Daniels also explained that her patient that got the back skin reaction did a coffee enema, and that it cleared up after that.
So having your exit channels cleared open before trying turpentine is recommended. Options for this is doing a liver cleanse / gall bladder flush, or using magnesium oxide for a few days to clear the small intestine (which is what Dr. D: recommends in her article).
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I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why every time I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable
(San Fernando, Philippines)
A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water (and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.
Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.
Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid, and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research.
Turpentine Side Effects
Hello Bill, You mentioned above that it is best to take turpentine before a meal, I am assuming on an empty stomach, for intestinal issues such as candida. I have tried it on an empty stomach, about 5 drops on a sugar cube. Within a couple of minutes I've experienced a feeling of dizziness. Have you or anyone ever had this reaction or a similar one? The 2nd time I tried it with food and did not get that reaction.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi June...The symptoms of dizziness or drowsiness or wooziness are well known when you take turpentine. Turpentine kills all manner of pathogens in the blood and intestines very quickly, including candida. When a large amount of candida is suddenly destroyed by turpentine, then all the poisons from inside the candida(and from other killed pathogens) will suddenly be released into the body. The result is a Herx or die off reaction because of these poisons in the blood which tend to affect the mind. This is what is termed a healing crisis(caused, not by the turpentine, but from the release of poisonous toxins from the killed candida).
From my own recent experience while being involved with a private group trying to cure their young children of autism using turpentine, these die-off or Herx symptoms are commonplace -- wooziness, drowziness, dizziness. When this happens as a reaction, the parents usually always allow at least one day off from the turpentine protocol as a break for the child involved.
I've also been taking turpentine regularly as a preventative and immune booster for over a year now and I can report that I have had no side-effects from taking this dosage -- no dizziness or wooziness. I take it about twice a week -- one teaspoonful with castor oil and molasses (or honey) usually at mealtime. And since I get no die-ff or Herx reaction, this therefore tells me that my intestines and blood are reasonably healthy and fit. If I suddenly did have a side-effect reaction like dizziness after taking turpentine, then I would immediately and reasonably assume that I might be infected with candida, parasites or other pathogens.
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I just started pure gum turpentine. This is my second day. Today I took just 4 drops and several hours later I am very very depressed..Don't understand why...Maybe the turpentine...Anybody know? Thanks...
I was advised to take a 1/4 teaspoon of Turpentine...I have hep-c and neuropathy...The first day I just took 2 drops...The second day I took 4 drops...I always take things very slowly to see the reaction..The second day at dinner I became very VERY VERY depressed....So much that I would not leave the house...I have never had a bout with depression in my life...Today is the day after the 4 drops...I had a horrific night laxt night with calf cramps coming back on both calves horrendously at 3:00AM...I was up all night and can hardly walk today...Stairs are almost imposssible...
(La Crescenta, Ca)
Dear Denise, it sounds to me like the turpentine altered your brain chemistry and pulled out essential minerals like magnesium and potassium. Perhaps it even depleted your serotonin levels. I would take potassium and mag asap and also an electrolyte drink. If that doesn't help, try omega 3 oils. Of course, don't take any more turpentine. What as the brand you were taking? That might be helpful to know too. Hope you feel better soon!
From my experience, the negative effects are mostly die-off from herx effets and chage significantly with time. I am 10 months in with avg-. 14+ net grams of VitC in ascorpbic acid/soy lecithin /water mix 40/60/1000 grams aa/lec/water - I take a water bottle full to work each day, and drink it out of the fridge while at home.
My cleansing program is augmented by essential oils - oregano/lavendar/eucolyptus and occasional tbsp of turpentine.
The symptomas continue to change with time. And last week it was open sores with yellow scabs on my eyel lids as stuff leaches from the eye area. I suspect I had systemic candida and a healthy latent herpes, but the full bloom of crap comes out. For a few days last August, my TB Scrub mark on my right shoulder bloomed, then receded, and that must go back to 3rd grade or so in 1967....
My sense of urgency for finding a solution came from early 50's return to long distance sports, aqnd a resultant problem with recurrring attacks of stuff after 5 hours of biking coupled with triathalon gels (high sugar intake) and occasional wierd stuff like a salad triggering 3 days of skin hives. Having suffered off and on from eczema all my life, but ditchig the cortizone in my 20's, and coping well 30-48 ba avoiding certain foods, my decline seemed rto come from travellig in Africa in 2010 - or more precisely the batch of shorts that I had to get. Eversince - a sence of fatigue, exhaustion, one triathlon I did I could hardly keep my head lifted up on the vbike from muscle aoureness and fatigue- as if my body was just saturated with lactic acid.
Fancy Nutritrionists and other allergist tests found nothing conclusive; the head of dermatology told me that they just don't know, but only know how to suppress the symtoms so peopole can cope.
SO I said to myself, after seeing the speel on High Dose VIt C and reearching Dr Klemmmer etc, that I would do vit C high dose for a while, which has now become a commitment for one year----- Inititially I lost my voice for 2 weeks and watched crap climb out my throat, 2 months in it was the jaw dental area, and for months now it seems to be a never ending story with the CSF zone (brain salid). Further desperation leads to new things..... with TURP taken orally, oe of the furst times, I had a sensation of a school of stuff rapidly migrating down my inner left crotch ind ito my thigh... alll in the sub skin fat tissue..... Other things are seemingly residual continuation of stuff leacing out of the joint areas (biofilms in the joints) and now with turpentine the sensation that nerve ends come alive with crawlies when I antagonize the system with lavendar oil or turp taken orally or under the tongue....
All col stuff...... and so far my health has no serious problems from attacking the pasasitick world from within..... force the demons out I presume is better than driving them deep with superficial symptom supression.
Keep on keepin on. Fight the fight and grow stronger. I always have to go back and remind myself that in the beginning the status quo was no longer surcivable and I had to do something. Today I sleep better and have a whole slew of tools to find relief ( hot salt baths, hot showers, topical coconut oil with oregano oil. topical turpentine on crazy itch symtpms works like a charm)
Go for it. After months of severe plaque head psoriasis, my head scratching continues, but the plaque is completely gone. I think my one year of cleaning 54 years of life out of the system will indeed pay off.
Hi IM Trying, I'm not yet on the turpentine but have lots of experience with dealing with die-off and toxicity. I imagine the depression was caused by die-off. I experience this also when I have die-off or other toxicity as I have liver problems and don't produce my own glutathione or antioxidants (because of genetic mutations). I use Glutathione Formula or Liposomal Glutathione, Resveratrol, Extract of Bitter Melon, (all strong antioxidants that help deal with toxins) St Mary's Thistle, Vit C, and I always feel a thousand times better both emotionally and physically/mentally after taking these. I have very longterm CFS and am looking forward to trying the turpentine.....tho also a bit scared as my kidneys are so easily affected by a lot of things......
I find that Turpentine is easier on the stomach if you don't take it first thing in the morning. But I would make sure you take it at least 5 hours after your meal otherwise you may end up getting severely nauseous and vomiting. This happened to me unfortunately.
YOUR PAIN IS CALLED DETOX PAIN /HERXHIEMER EFFECT.. caused by rapid detoxing what to do...this ....>> cut your amount in half ..if the pain persists then do it 1 day 1 day off till the pain stops then increase dosage to every day...if pain comes back reduce dosage again till the detox pain goes away...then n gradually increase dosage you will be ok...if you have to stop the dosage for a few days..I had the same thing then as the detox progressed and removed the toxins the pain decreased till it vanished
If I am not mistaken, Jennifer Daniels said to drink 32 oz. of water per 60 pounds of body weight PRIOR to taking the turpentine.
C: Turpentine is a powerful parasite & pathogen killer so folks that have a high number of these critters will experience "die-off" or "Herx reaction" as the toxins released from the dying bad bugs. This in turn can cause leaky gut syndrome or dirty colon.
To remedy this it would help by taking Activated Charcoal or Bentonite Clay prior to meals to capture the waste. One spoon of Milled Flax Seed with breakfast (goes good with cereal or fruit smoothies etc) will clean the colon. Aloe Vera compliments the MFS very well.
My own way is to put one teaspoon of honey or molasses in my mouth, then put the turpentine dose (usually one teaspoon for me) in my mouth next. Then I hold it in my mouth and mix it with my saliva and then I swallow this mix and just chase it down with some water.
If you've never taken turpentine like this before, then you should start with just a 1/4 tspn of turps, with increasing drop dosages over about a week until you are taking one teaspoon. If at any time while taking this protocol you have a Herx or die off reaction or if you feel woozy, drowsy or lethargic -- then take a day off the next day and resume, at a lesser dose, thereafter.
Walter Last also seems to prefer taking the turps or kerosene with a teaspoon of castor oil. The castor oil is a useful idea because it also kills candida and beneficially tends to gently accelerate excretion -- thus removing toxins more quickly from the body. Coconut oil or olive oil can also be taken as the carrier with the turps remedy as well.
Diamond G Forest brand "pure gum spirit of Turpentine." Never use a brand of Turpentine you buy from a home improvement store, wood working shop or art supply shop. Please see link below for dosage and use protocols. Personally, I have never taken more than 5 drops at one time dropped into a coffee pack or two of brown sugar. Always start with only one drop to test your reaction and to see how you feel. I've read that taking castor oil along with the Turpentine can minimize some of the unpleasantness however I have never tried the Caster oil myself.
I have a question about using turpentine. Have obtained some from Diamond Forest Products. I have been doing 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks. Want to use turp to get rid of microbes and possible parasites in blood and body. Hoping it will help with fatigue and also cancer: Multiple Myeloma. Fatigue is a long standing problem. Have problems with constipation and am using enemas.
Have been using turp at 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks (with ground up sugar cubes and about 1 Tbs of olive oil), and seemed to be able to tolerate it with moderate discomfort: concentration, spacey feeling, irritable, some nausea. Last night I took the turp (1 tsp) only with olive oil. I don't know if this was coincidence, but it hit me a lot harder with symptoms.
Would appreciate any advice about this and how I should continue with treatment. Also was thinking about the caution about kidneys and nervous system how much of a concern is this?
Thanks for help
I have read through the posts and would appreciate having clarification on some issues.
Thanks Bill for the Anti-candida protocol, will be looking at that and the link to the page on dealing with fungus.
Would like to know if enemas are enough to unblock the colon for parasites/microbes to exit.
How much of a dose of turpentine is needed to be effective (can I use less than a tsp)? I have read some posts that say to use turp for only 2x/week and others that say to use for 5days/week. I have been using a tsp 2x/week and have felt a lot of reaction (irritability, fatigue, crappy feeling), but have not passed anything noticeable. Not sure if candida is widespread. I have taken a break for a week now and plan to get back probably in another week.
Has anyone more info on using Turp as an enema, would it be as effective as oral consumption? Would like to give it a try.
Also planning to add more vit/min supplements. I have always wondered if the supplements in health food stores are good. Are they natural or synthetic. I would imagine natural would be better, but where to get a good source? Thanks for any help.
Trying to figure out what to do next.
I have candida & parasite problems. Instead of starting at 1/4 tsp of turp could I start at an amount of DROPS & take it each day? Or is twice a week the only recommendation? Thank you for this site.
I've tried turp before, taking only about 7 drops each day. It seemed my heart rate and blood pressure would go crazy! Any ideas on that? Thank you
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Lorik...If you have serious systemic candida and other pathogenic infections in your body and if you take turpentine for the first time, you will usually always get a Herx reaction which is caused by heavy die-off of pathogens with release of poisons.
Turpentine also removes biofilms with consequent large release of stored heavy metals into the body also causing other strange symptoms. When candida in particular is killed in large numbers by the turps, there is an even heavier release of candida poisons into the body. So, for a little while, you will feel worse -- with heart palpitations, higher BP and other strange symptoms, until your body has had time to clear these poisons from the body.
So the least you should do is to incorporate additional protocols like molybdenum to neutralize the candida poisons as well as use chlorella or kelp or spirulina to help detox and transport the heavy metals out of you body safely.
I don't really think that you will get very far in you candida remedy if you just use candida-kill remedies on their own. Not enough. You will need to do much more than that and use a much wider and more focused protocol to cure serious systemic candida issues which is why I always favour a multi-protocol approach. My full anti-candida protocol is shown about a quarter way down on this EC page:
The strategy I use against candida is shown here:
Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols
Essential Detox Protocols
Liver Support Protocols(Liver, Kidney and Blood Support)
Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)
The Health Defence Diet
You seem to be the expert in this group, so I will address this email to you.
I have candida and parasite (and lyme w/ co-infections) and I would like to use turpentine to address these. I have read Dr. Daniels' protocol but I don't like the idea to ingesting all that sugar. I have hyperinsulinemia and Diabetes type 2 from the lyme, so a lot of sugar consumption is not good.
I started my first dose of turpentine this AM -source from Georgia- and only took 1/4 tsp with 1 tsp coconut syrup (lower glycemic index) and 1 tsp avocado oil, chased it down with some liquid. I did not eat any food. I immediately became dizzy.
According to Dr. Daniels, becoming dizzy means that the turpentine went into the system too quickly and that not enough stayed in the gut. This defeats the very purpose that I'm trying to accomplish, namely keeping it in the gut to kill candida/parasites. I bought your book the other day so I can't use it as a resource for the moment. What am I doing wrong and what would you recommend?
Hi Emma...The reason you become drunk or dizzy when you took the turpentine is not directly because of the turpentine itself but because of its rapid-kill effect on large numbers of parasites, candida, viruses and bacteria in your body. And when killed in such large numbers, candida releases aldehydes and alcohol poisons into the blood that will mentally and physically affect you.
I've been working with autistic children who are also taking turpentine and this has more extreme behavioural effects on a child's mind and body like stimming, aggression, repetitive behaviours, not speaking, wild behaviour etc. This is due to the effects of these alcohols and aldehydes on their developing brains. By the way, these children get exactly the same mental symptoms if they take MMS -- so these mental effects are actually caused by the pathogen die-off(Herx effect). This Herx or die-off effect is fairly prominent and should always be expected when you are initially killing such a wide range of pathogens as occurs in Lyme disease.
The effect of supplementing turpentine(or MMS) is necessarily different in an adult because adult brains are fully developed whereas a young child's brain is still developing. So, in an adult, the symptoms will manifest as feeling dizzy or drunk because of the aldehydes and alcohols released by the dead candida. Mood(depression) may also be affected.
If you wish to keep most of the turps to act in the gut then take the turps with castor oil. All the reasons for this are given in detail here.
The Turpentine Protocol is shown here. Take turpentine/CO three times a week(on a day on, day off basis) -- take it twice at the maintainance dose(1 tspn turps + 1 tablespoon CO) and once at the full laxative dose(1 tspn turps + 3 to 4 tablespoons CO) every week.
CO is a laxative and helps to disperse the turps rapidly throughout the whole intestines. The CO also inhibits the turpentine being absorbed into the blood -- so the turps mainly acts throughout the intestines.
So perhaps you should try taking the turpentine/CO protocol as advised above.
I have candida overgrowth, and have been having it for years. My symptoms are hair loss, tiredness, stomach pain, weight gain, sinus problems, bad breath, bloating, skin problems, white coated tongue etc.
Over the years I have tried everything with no result. I have tried HP which helped a little bit, coloidal silver, mastic gum, oregano oil, grapefruit seed extract, borax, iodine, graviola, pao d'arco tea, haritaki churna, baking soda, apple sider vinegar, turpentine... I was taking the HP for about 8 months and it helped a little bit with the tiredness, but my tongue didn't clear up. I also scrape and clean my tongue twice a day.
I went to see holistic doctors and regular primary care physicians -nothing, they didn't help. I have been on a diet for 2 years. I do not eat sugar, fruits, no coffee, no alcohol, keep low carb , no gluten, no bread, no processed food, I occasionally cheat with honey on gluten free crackers.
I've been taking turpentine ( 1 tsp turp with one sugar cube, once a day) for about three weeks now. It does not seem to work too.
I'm desperate and tired. I'm reading all these comments and articles and the turp and HP seem to work for most of the people. I have no idea what to do anymore. I appreciate any help and suggestions.