Bill, I have been using the turpentine for only 1.5 weeks and it is great for the candida, I even saw white rope like fungus pass the day after my first turp dose. No herxing either. I am on a vegan high raw diet, but eat fruit (juciy not sweet fruits like bananas and dates) with some cooked low fat vegan for dinner. It's what I can sustain. My main concern now is helping my 75 year old mom onto the turp for her candida/allergies, etc. She is currently taking Atenolol 25mg which is a beta blocker for irregular heart beat. Even though she remembers turp sugar being around her house as a kid and her grand dad using it, she is terrified to swallow it, which I understand!! I was too and am still having a hard time getting past the gasoline like taste, but it does work better than anything I've ever tried, so I am on it 2x week for now. I want to see if I can work up to more but just need to take it slow as I have had CFS for 8 years and am sick and tired of being sick and tired. God bless you for your help!
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Caladesi...I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.
Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms -- especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.
First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it's advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn't bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I've been on it ever since.
Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body's detox and immune systems.
Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.
Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.
See the full symptom lists here:
Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.
Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.
Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:
You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.
It's also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That's why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.
Other nutrients that should help your mother's heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.
Hi all. I'm new to an infectious dkin disease with Candida issues as well. So rearched online natural remedies for my condition. Found a lot of natural remedies. I decided to go to the local Natural Roots store and I purchased some Turmeric and Echinacea to take orally. Also, bought some essential oils and bar soap. JoJoba Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Oregano Oil and Eucalyptus Oil for topical use and for baths mixed with Epsom Salt and Munuka Honey-Tea Tree Oil bar soap. The essential oils and soap has almost completely healed my skin after 2 weeks of use.
However, I found online many sites stating Turpentine kills Candida and many other internal issues aswell. So, I purchased some 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine by Strip Clean at the Hardware store. I started taking it orally as suggested by what I found from online sites researched. The first day mixed half a teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of honey. Not bad at all. Two days later I took the same dosage. In to my second week I upped the dosage to a full teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of sugar. I liked it much better and I was feeling great, more energy than I 've had in many many years. Two days Iater I took that same dosage and was loving the way I was feeling. Passed some type worms. But, my chest hurts, the upper GI. And my stomach is cramping. Is this part of Candida die of or do I need to go to E. R. ? Thanks for your help.
Hi William...Your upper GI pain might simply be due to symptoms caused by candida die-off or Herx reactions. And if you are, at the same time, detoxing heavy metals with other protocols then this can give very similar symptoms as well as, in some cases, strange skin problems. Initially, when you start the turpentine protocol, these die-off and detox symptoms should be expected, since you will initially be killing huge amounts of candida and other pathogens with the turpentine and other protocols and the same goes for the heavy metal detox.
Further on down the timeline, when you eventually get the candida and detox numbers down significantly, your immune system will then start to become healthy again and act dominate your body as it should and eventually you health should be much improved.
What I'm saying here, as an ex-systemic candida sufferer myself, is that when you start any successful protocol against candida then you will always feel worse before you begin to feel better and heal. Indeed, if this were not initially the case, then I would seriously question whether the anti-candida protocol you are using is working properly or not.
I also use turpentine in my own anti-candida protocols, which is a bigger protocol that is shown here in some detail. This protocol has also been quite successful for other candida sufferers who have used it.
(San Antonio, TX)
Every time I see "irregular heartbeat", I think of my severe Right Side Bundle Branch Block, google it. It's a heart problem that's similar, roughly, to your mom. I cured it in 8 months by slowing my breathing down. My former heart problem totally went away.
It's not easy. Especially sleeping. Wearing a construction mask helps the O2 CO2 exchange. When away, breathe through nose exclusively, and if possible, have her close one nostril, I used an earplug up one nostril .
I was shocked it worked. An old doctor friend told me about it. The young doctor I went to had absolutely no clue.
Good luck! Please try it.
I am not a fan of eating sugar by itself. Can I take the Turpentine with BSM (blackstrap molasses) instead? If so, how many drops of turp for each tea or tablespoon full of BSM? Thank you!
Yes, you can take Turpentine with most foods or liquids as it is a natural solvent and actually doesn't taste too bad; kinda like a Gin tonic. I used to take with sugar cubes but needed to reduce sugars so now I simply get a swig of my Coffee/Tea/Water and add two small droppers and down the hatch. I do this once daily.
(Ucluelet, Bc, Canada)
Use only turpentine that is 100% "spirit gum". You want to make sure it is not petroleum-based turp.
I've read through all of the posts here for candida/turpentine therapy but didn't come across anything about a protocol diet. This blog is Best Type of Turpentine, but I couldn't find anything else regarding it.
The reason I bring this up is that I've had severe, chronic candida/parasites/intestinal bacteria for 30+ years and spent thousand of dollars and suffered through numerous programs with absolutely no benefit until I tried Turp with which I started to feel better the next day.
Back to the diet. I followed Dr. Daniels protocol to the letter for six weeks. Dr. D says that 3-4 eliminations daily are required along with super hydrating...and no meat or dairy. Her recommended diet is very carb based with grains in particular. After six weeks I decided to come off of it to see how I would feel and the first thing that happened is that I got very constipated immediately and has remained that way for two months now which has freaked me out a bit since I wasn't pre-protocol. My symptoms also started to return soon afterwards.
I tried to get some advice about the constipation from Dr. D, but she kept trying to sell me her book and sessions which I can't afford. I got ahold of Tony Pantalleresco as I had nowhere else to turn for advice and although he is quite a character, he was very generous with his time and advice...as in free. I explained to him what was going on and even sent him Dr. D's protocol. Tony was emphatic that the constipation problem was due to all of the grains and that they were terrible for candida. He didn't say anything about 3-4 eliminations a day or super hydrating, etc.
So although the turpentine part is the same, they are two very different protocols. Dr. D says the treatment won't be effective or can even be harmful if not followed precisely and Tony says otherwise. True, Dr. D has an MD, but she also has a business degree from Wharton.
I've been afraid to resume turpentine therapy since I was afraid that I might have damaged my system resulting in constipation, but Tony has assured my that isn't the case. I'm staring again with Tony's recommendation tomorrow. I'd like to hear what anyone else has to offer on this. There aren't many people who are familiar with Turp therapy and this is the only Turp forum I've found.
Rishicash: There is just one word that describes the super hero who comes to everybody's rescue: enzymes. Enzymes are a mixture of nutrients that have more electrons than protons. They make high energy water. Activated barley has the most enzymes. Home grown sprouts and live ferments are second. Raw organic produce and raw grass fed animal products are third.
Constipation is a sign of dehydration start drinking more water preferably alkaline water to balance the bodys ph an 8 or higher and take you some probiotics or eat greek yogurt, at least once a day.Raw vege juice always jumpstarts a constipated colon carrot celery apple is a nice combination. Fishoil omega 3 also helps a stressed colon. Hopefully you will find relief with these solutions, good luck.
Hi I would like to hear from anyone who has/is trying the kerosene treatment for candida. how is it working for you, how much do you use etc. Thank you
I want to share a video that I found from a Google search on the usage of turpentine. It's pretty detailed & will benefit the ones wanting to know more on how to use turpentine as well as the health conditions treated by it. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtzHyl1GRA
I have been taking turpentine bath every single day for the last several month. When I start turpentine bath soon around waist area started to have a breakout. A lot of Fibrin structure. looks like scab. at the end what determins human death is the number of fibrin. The more fibrin coms out, the skin become half transparent and softer.when the kidney was cleansed I had major change in inner ears. As kidney and ear are related. I was producing a lot of ear wax. I often wondered when I was a child, I regularly produce ear wax. when I got sick, actually it stopped at a considerable speed. I believe my system started to get clogged. that is why. As the kidney started detox, my ear follows up.
After I started turpentine bath I reduced the number of herbs and supplements. Because turpentine itself is a powerful therapy. And I also rotate putting these into bath. For example, methylene blue, Magnesium, povidone iodine, MSM, Borax, Aquarium salt, BHT, DMSO. The beauty if turpentine bath is there is absolutely no extra effort. Because we all wash everyday, I take bath everyday.. Nothing added..!
(Amman, Jordan, Jordan)
Hi Fiona from Tustin: which kind of Turpentine you mean? The kind distilled from pine tree resin or petroleum distillate? Thank you
Hi Faeqa. What you need to look for in turpentine is "100% gum turpentine" or "pure gum turpentine" on the label. Check out Walter Last's site with more information about turpentine/kerosene: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm. God Bless!
Kerosene is derived from petroleum and turpentine is derived from the healing sap of spruce or pine trees. It is very important to use only "100% pure gum spirits". Look up turpentine videos NOT ON YOU TOOB OR GOOGLE as it is censored!!! Use bitchute to see real doctors and scientists and their real uncensored opinions!
Thanks for the tip on checking out bitchutes. I have candida and I am on a protocol for MTHFR double mutation. I have just started the turpentine protocol that Dr. D. recommends(1 tsp of turpentine on heaping tsp of sugar). I am also looking at Bills Protocol. I have air bubbles at night that disturb my sleep. I don't get the acid reflux, just air bubbles. The doctor said it is food sensitivities. I get pressure in my chest that wakes me up and then I burp. I make myself burp, because the air bubbles get trapped in the upper left chest area. I went on the turpentine for 4 days now, and I am off 2 days. The 4 days on the turpentine, I had less burping especially the 4th night. The burping has started to come back again, since I have been off of it for the second night. I just took a test for food sensitivities. I am taking an enzyme and staying away from the foods I have a sensitivity to. Maybe I should stay on the turpentine longer than 4 days. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks for all the information on this website.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Rachael...In order for Kerosene to be effective you must use it in the right way. I'm working with an autism group at the moment. All the autistic children are infected with candida as well as parasites. I know this because they must post pictures of their stools every day on this site. Their stools always show parasites as well as biofilms coming out of the children's intestines.
The way to use kerosene or turpentine is to take one teaspoon mixed together with at least one tablespoon of castor oil. You can add molasses too for a better taste if you like. The purpose of the castor oil is to help spread the turpentine throughout the intestines more thoroughly -- don't forget that the intestines is 28 ft long so the kerosene has to be used efficiently.
If you are just supplementing kerosene on its own with water outside mealtimes, then the kerosene will be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach -- with not much kerosene left to go into the intestines to fight the candida and remove biofilms there. Taking kerosene with water is OK for blood born diseases but not OK for candida -- because the throne and fortress of candida is always in the intestines which has the biofilms.
So take the kerosene mixed with castor oil and take this at mealtime just before you eat. That will ensure that the majority of the kerosene goes where it should -- into the intestines to both kill the candida and remove the biofilms as well.
(East Coast, Usa)
Dear Bill and Ted, I have been reading and appreciating all your info so much. What an incredible service! I am writing in regards to my 2 1/2 year old son. I would like to try some of these remedies for him: colostrum and turpentine/castor, also perhaps the iodine protocol and transdermal magnesium oil. He's struggled with digestion, candida related symptoms since birth, with weakened immunity, and most recently a case of lyme (we think) and re-occuring pinworms.
We have always chosen to treat naturally and gently, but I am concerned that he is not thriving and that I must find a way to treat the root issue. I had chronic yeast throughout the pregnancy and then antibiotics for Typhoid Fever one month before his birth. He's always struggled with constipation and currently is on probiotics, prunes, chia, etc. and is still only having a BM every other day. Any extra help in figuring this all out would be deeply appreciated. I am planning to do castor/turp and iodine protocol for my own candida issues, and hopefully get my husband to do it with me for depression. I will let you know how that goes. I don't seem to understand the length of time to continue all these protocols? Thanks again, all my best* ~Miquela
Miquela from East Coast, Usa 02/04/2015
Writing about your 2 1/2 yr old son. My daughter had a huge problem with pin worms & nothing worked..not even the Dr. prescriptions. This was about 38 yrs ago! An elderly grandmother told us give her 100% pure Turpentine. She said that every fall & spring all the people used to use 10 drops of turpentine FOR ADULTS (on sugar..only for taste so do as you need on the sugar..maybe honey or just water).. For kids less depending on size. I gave my daughter 5 drops & you do this for 3 days on empty stomach. I was AMAZED. She was free of the pin worms right away. Since that experience I use it for parasites of different kinds. You can try it & see how the little one does with it..I wish the precious little one well.. God Bless..
When I read about your son having constipation it has compelled me to tell you a story of my daughter. About the age of five she started having constipation problems and before she was 20 doctors wanted to cut out a large section of here colon and have her start using a colostomy bag from then on. Through her own wisdom she declined. She continued having problems bloating after eating small amounts of food to the point she would look 6 months pregnant.
She is now 33 years old and about 6 months ago she went on a diet some water with a different ph level, lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. I do not know the quantities but I am sure this diet is online. Anyway this is all she consumed for 10 days. I saw her on the 5th day and she said Dad this has been so hard, but the first few days was really the hardest. I asked her about a month later how the diet went, she said Dad I have been having regular bowel movements 3 times a day. I was astonished honest to god she would not have a bowel movement for up to 2 weeks on a regular basis. I always feared she would die before she was 21 and now she just glows full of energy for the first time ever.
Sorry off the subject of turpentine, which I have been taking for the past few months, not religiously though, just when I feel the need and yes it did give me chest pains at first, but that could be partially from a resting heart rate between 115 and 122. I have started a healthier diet also now eat fruits and vegetables (yuck). now my resting heart rate is between 80 and 93. Still not great but highly improved and oh yes no more chest pains...
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Well, I began my turpentine treatment this morning by injesting 1/2 tsp soaked in sugar cubes. Dr Daniels' protocol calls for 1 tsp, but I'm kinda chicken and will go slow. I do appreciate your earlier input and will let you know how this wild and strange adventure comes out. I opted to go this way because candida is one tough thing to get into control. A few hours later I took a pslyllium fiber shake containing bentonite clay, diatatamisious earth, cayenne and flax seed meal. Hopefully, as this passes through, it will drag out some of the affected yeast in my intestines. Wed. I will get a Hydrogen Peroxide I.V. to work on those in my blood stream.
Some posters have said they have done battle with these little critters for years. At 76, I need a PDQ treatment. ======RH========
Candida, Biofilm and Parasites
Turpentine for Candida, biofilm, and parasites
I started with a hardware store brand of pure gum spirits of turpentine and it made me feel crappy. Couldn't function kind of crappy. The lady on the information line said it was not food grade. I'm guessing pulp industry by product with residual chemicals contaminating it. I took one teaspoon once or twice and said no more. I researched the stuff and looked for the absolute best I could find. I read reviews here claiming taking Diamond G brand was like a night and day experience compared to hardware stuff. I researched that. They shouldn't be marketing it as pure gum spirits. It may not have residual chemicals in it but it's made from slash and stumps left over from logging.
Real pine gum spirits come from tapped and/or wounded pine trees. There are different compounds at different ratios from tapping vs regular bark and wood. The trees' response to heal produces something special. I found a high-quality true pure gum spirits source. The trees are sacred and traditionally tapped. It has a faint pine smell and that's it. It didn't taste as bold or harsh if that makes sense and there was no chemical taste.
All that being said I still had roughly the same reaction to it. I took a teaspoon a day for 3-4 days before giving up on it. My head was very foggy, I had something akin to a headache, my body felt crappy (I don't know how else to explain it) and I could barely function.
The testimonies here and doctor Daniel's endorsement obviously gave me a ton of confidence but it didn't work for me. My delicate premature organs might have something to do with that. I may have better luck with much smaller doses if I ever get the confidence to try this again.
Very sorry to hear you had these side effects. Most people start off the turpentine protocol with just a few drops so I am wondering why you went to the full dosage right off the bat? I did the turpentine protocol a couple of summers ago and started with just 3 drops on a sugar cube to see if I had any reactions. I felt great - lots of energy! But only after a few days of just 3 drops did I slowly increase to more drops.
The slow, low dose method is what people on EC generally advise when it comes to potent remedies like turpentine and I agree!
Great advice! My first drop lit me up. Especially since I took it by itself without sugar. The sugar slowed down the effects much better. This is the only substance I've taken that has given me such great results!! Highly recommend
Replying to Michael - if U were taking it for a parasite infestation then it's highly likely you are experiencing die off symptoms which I experience exactly what U describe no matter what I take for them so I believe it's not the product but the formaldehyde and heavy metals being released by parasites as they die - it's the most hideous experience and I've been dealing with it for ten years - best way is to not go too hard and take some charcoal to help absorb the waste and get some colonics to flush it all out good luck
Pre WWII tonic:
My dad says he took kerosene and molasses for colds before 1935. Is that possible?
Comparison of Turpentine Brands
Several years ago I purchased some of the Diamond G Turpentine. I love it! It does not smell like a chemical, but like fresh pine. I love it! I have used it medicinally here and there.
Not long ago I decided to use my turpentine to do some cleaning. I had some dust build up on some wood trim in my bathroom. The turpentine cleaned it beautifully and left a pleasant lingering pine scent.
I decided I should get some less expensive turpentine for cleaning. Yesterday I found 100% pure turpentine (Klean Strip) at the hardware store, so I purchased that. I expected it to smell as nice as the Diamond G. Wrong!
It smells like a chemical. I don't know if the processing or source of trees or something else is the cause of the great difference in smell between those two brands.
I may use the Klean Strip for cleaning. However, I would not use it medicinally. :(
And that is my 2 cents on those two turpentine brands.
~Mama to Many~
Since I started turpentine, (up to 8 drops, 2x/week) I have problems with constipation. I have constipation issues, but I was doing enemas for that, and since the turpentine that is less effective. Does anyone have problems with this and how do you address it? Thanks
Take 200 mgs magnesium malate 4-5 times a day or more until you have relief...Then reduce that amount.. You should get down to 400-600 mgs find out that will be sufficient, but everybody's diffferent....Swanson sells magnesium malate at 200 mgs/capsule...Don't buy hard pills and they have a tendency to not dissolve...
When I first got copd, I landed in the hospital, the er doctors, didn't have the right medication for me, I found out that it was inflammation in the lungs that caused the whole problem.
Well, I had gotten rid of a lot of inflammation in Skin cancer. So I threw the medication the doctor gave me in the trash. It was horrible stuff. They weakened my heart with it.
Started drinking 1 teaspoon of Kerosene at wee hrs in the morning, 3hrs before or after a meal.
I got rid of all the inflammation in no time. I take a maintenance dose every day for the rest of my life. I still get phlegm that I have to get rid of.
Turpentine - Proceed With Caution
Ingesting gum spirits of turpentine induces leukocytosis: A proliferation of white blood cells. More specifically, Polymorphonuclear Leukocytosis. These leukocytes include the white blood cells that have a strange-shaped nucleus: Basophils, Eosinophils, and Neutrophils, and probably Mast Cells and Macrophages.
The practice of ingesting turpentine prior to cold and flu season is to activate the immune system to clean out your body of cellular debris, toxins, and other harmful material. Accumulation of these toxins is what causes you to become sick. As well as a poor diet, deficient in vitamins and minerals. From my experience, I think that it works.
I started taking turpentine in March 2020 because of Covid-19. I started with 10 drops of turpentine on sugar. (I used a plastic disposable pipette as the dropper). The next day I had 15 drops on sugar. Three days later I had 20 drops on sugar. I slowly worked my way up to a teaspoon (80 drops) by May. I limited my intake of turpentine to once a week.
CAUTION. Taking too much turpentine too frequently will over sensitize the immune system so that you can have a serious allergic reaction to common things. I found that out one afternoon after having a teaspoon of turpentine in the morning, and later, in the afternoon, I ate about 30 pistachios. My throat swelled up within 15 minutes. I had a hard time swallowing. I could no longer breathe through my nose. My nose wasn't stuffed up. No, my soft palate and nasopharynx had swelled up. The swelling took over 24 hours to subside. That really scared me. In the past, I could eat a thousand pistachios without a problem. My immune system was over active. Be careful.
I now take turpentine about every two to four weeks: 30 drops on sugar.
Stick to small doses for detoxing. If you're trying to flush out parasites or destroy Candida albicans, one teaspoon is the most you should take. Be sure that you are having normal bowel movements before taking so much turpentine. I would like to copy and paste my entire Turpentine Diary here, but it would take too much editing.
For the record, I used "Klean Strip" pure gum spirits of turpentine. You can buy the more expensive brand if you want. Don't buy odorless turpentine. That stuff is mineral spirits, not turpentine. Good luck.
Maybe you could put parts of your diary. I would love to read it.
Have you thought of starting a blog?
This comment is for Bill from Philippines:
Hi Bill thanks for all your wonderful research and the answer to some questions I have asked. I wanted to know if you have ever heard of anyone using turpentine to get rid of tape worm? the reference you have given has people using 15-30 millilitres followed by castor oil a half hour later. Also I see here using it in a soapy enema? Any thoughts?
Here is the text:
As a remedy against the tapeworm, the dose is from one-half to one fluid ounce (15-30 mils), followed in half an hour by castor oil; the safety of these large doses is dependent upon the catharsis sweeping out 'the bowel before the turpentine can be absorbed. It is best administered in the form of an emulsion, although it is frequently given by dropping into a teaspoonful of sugar. (J. P. C., Sept., 1873, p. 223.)
In the form of an enema the oil of turpentine is highly useful in obstinate constipation, tympanitis, and seat-worms. From one-half to two fluidounces (15-60 mils) may be added to a pint of warm soapsuds.
Hi : I just wanted to post about my recent experience of taking Turpentine in the morning and an MMS enema in the evening to expel worms. It has worked. I got the idea from the work Kari rivera and Andreas Klacker are doing to recover kids from autism.
They are finding that the removal of worms is doing wonders for the health and cognition of these kids and have developed a protocol. they use metbednezol (sp?) to kill the worms as well as MMS they call it chlorine dioxide and the MMS enemas.
I have way to many little maybe big health issues and spend way too much on my health with little to show for it. I decided to take matters into my own hands and see if some version of this protocol would make me feel better. I have more energy, have lost my horrid food sensitivities and get out lots of gross worms on the days I do this.
My question is am I the only one who has tried this? I feel down right now as I tried to describe this to my doctor who just basically ignored my discovery telling me it might not be worms and I should get a test. Thanks for reading. Mary
I am about to try the Turp therapy - just ordered a bottle from Georgia. However I wanted to comment specifically on the subject of MMS and parasites.
I have had good success with Borax for candida, and we have done some "cycles" of MMS with the family just for overall health. I am always up for the next level of personal bio-hack.
I found in December that one of my sheep had a tapeworm. Perfect time to test the MMS. (She was very ill and had lost a lot of weight. I was out of town and found out she had the runs for weeks)
I suspected that the MMS would not work alone, so I started the MMS with DMSO, AM and PM.
After 5 days I added Standard process Zymex II (a parasite specific enzyme formula). 3 days later I added a few papaya seeds to the oats. after 3 doses of papaya seeds (PM, AM, PM) I went into the barn to find about 2 feet of tapeworm.
Within 3 days her poops were pretty normal, and she has doubled in size since then.
Her sister started with runny poops about 2 months later. I did the same protocol and she passed the tapeworm exactly the same. Hers was at least 4 feet.
I've also done the Kalcker MMS protocol. Best parasite protocol. I had severe issues with parasite infestation for many years, caught them on my multiple Indonesia surf trips. Tried everything but only this worked. Was crazy to see the parasites expelling out. Had some measure greater than 20cms. Had multiple different species. Highly recommend..
No, you are absolutely on the right track I experienced the same situation. Use it periodically and keep an eye on what comes out. Use for a couple weeks after just to make sure it kills everything, yeast, fungi, parasites and who knows whatever else. Good luck
Irma, you can order the right turpentine @ this website
Does anyone know the protocol used for the mms and turpentine please?
I have previously done the MMS and have now been doing turps/sugar on and off for a few weeks with many helpful outcomes which reverse if I stop. I have wondered about somehow combining the Turps & MMS and would be extremely happy to hear more about how you have faired on the turps in a.m. and MMS in the p.m. protocol you have been using please... How are you?
Hello all thank God I found you!!!! I am having a horrible time dealing with this and none of these Wisconsin Dr.'s care. Telling me I'm delusional smh.. I feel so lost because I know what I'm going through and how my life has been interrupted because I'm dealing with these parasites daily. I used Turpentine because the assistant at the drugstore told me about it. I emptied out a lot and was disgusted. I am going to do 4 days on /off and hopefully it get the electrical feeling parasites out. Any suggestions for me please share. Thanks to u all and these DR's suck.
Every spring and every fall my grandmother would line my brothers and cousins up and each of us got our twice yearly dose of worming ---- a tablespoon of milk with two drops of gum turpentine. And the next few days we kept tabs on our stool passings and sure enough, out came the worms. Hey, we lived on a farm will all kinds of critters and my gram was well versed on how to get rid of most of the nasty ones.
(New York, Ny,)
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
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Not speaking as an authority, but when I started turpentine a year or so ago I researched awhile and bought my gum spirits from a professional Art Supplier on the internet. Artist use the highest quality Gum Spirits Turpentine there is. I would mention the name, but don't think that's allowed. It's not dirt cheap, but I had rather pay a little more than get tainted stuff.
Have not taken it in a while, but took it on on sugar cubes and it stayed with me for the rest of the day. Followed the directions of Dr Jennifer Daniels on the internet. She's one smart lady and was trying to help poor people until Big Pharma ran her off to Panama. I won't get into my Dante's Inferno routine.
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EC: Robert Henry ... folks like yourself who have been posting on EC for a while can mention brand names.
(Hope Bc Canada)
Hi Sparrow from New York -- from Om
We used to get it in kindergarden in Europe. A few drops on sugar cube or molasses. Start with one drop and increase to, say, four. Up to one quarter tsp. or a little more. I found mine at a hardware store and phoned the company to make sure it was pure. It was pure. it is great stuff once you get used to it. Google "Experiences with Kerosene and Turpentine". Or read Walter Last on these. Namaste, Om
(Ten Mile , Tn.)
HI U TEXAS, , , , , , , , , , Started up a mill in Sheldon in '67. Great state, great people. Just hope this is not violating any rules, but what you are looking for is on this site.
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Om, how often did you receive the turpentine when you were in kindergarten? Thanks
(Hope Bc Canada)
Mary, sorry for late reply: the nurses who ran the kindergarten would treat us with the stuff on sugar cube whenever they saw we were developing a cold.
Let me share with you good people my adventure with turp a coupe of days ago. It has a good outcome though. My mite problem in my face, scalp and eyes after tedious treatments would not abate but become worse. So, after much subduing my chicken out feelings I stripped and dipping my face cloth into the turp proceeded to cover myself from top to bottom as per a link on line somewhere suggested from european sources. Midway, the stuff started to spread by itself a good deal which reminded me of oil spills in the ocean with an ominous feeling that I was in for an unknown experience of an intimidating nature. By the time I had reached the top I stated burning with all my skin vibrating violently, the turp wandering into mouth and eyes so I could not see. The fumes were overwhelming, reaching lungs and brain. I was mortified, felt like swooning off and on, ran to open the window and showering with cold water without stopping the vibrating and burning effects which were very strong. I grabbed a blanket and finally thought it best to call the ambulance which arrived with two very helpful men who took some initial tesst which turned out o.k. I only told them I had inhaled turp from an open container, not more because I do not lie. At the hospital all tests turned fine except they wanted me to shower because of the smell but the nurses forgot to give me soap and towels but that is another story.
The ambulance men said I was sensitive to turp odour and it should not have any repercussions. After some useless hours freezing in a flimsy gown I got dressed not having got the promised soup as I was weak from not eating for hours, I took a taxi home.
About two days later please note the outcome: My skin is good, the mites not noted again except I have to use application in the nose with tee tree oil. No itchy head. A long standing fungal infection that resisted all attempts to clear it: Gone! My eyes are clear, so is my brain, in fact better, and my intermittent cough gone which makes me think if I ever had predators in my lungs, they are gone.
I had taken before oral turp w sugar without trouble and will do so again. I m having trouble with finding the right turp even though I questioned the manufacturer, their product saying"pure" and "bio option". May be I will end up finding it eventually.
Please take this account for your entertainment only. Regards, Om
(San Fernando Philippines)
Hi Om...I've also been experimenting with gum turpentine. I'm still using turp drops daily for oral hygiene. I tend to always mix a few drops of gum turps with other oils such as coconut oil or castor oil if I use it on externally on the skin. And I'm still supplementing the turpentine(1 tspn) + CO(1 tspn) + honey/molasses(1 tspn) once or twice a week. It's definitely powerful stuff.
I was also thinking that a much easier way to take a turpentine bath would be to have a pine bubble bath and simply add one or two whisky shot glasses of gum turpentine to the water as well. The pleasant pine oil soap in the water would make the turps smell unnoticeable and would also function to more efficiently emulsify the turps into tiny droplets for better distribution in the bath water. Then all you need to do is clean yourself and just relax in the hot bath for about 20 mins in order to allow the turpentine to act and do its magic on the body.
(Hope Bc Canada)
Thanks for your remarks. Trouble is when I bought this house, I had no idea how useless a "water saving" bath tub is. It is just good for showers. I will use your information and hope to get somewhere with the mite problem. I am now going to use neem to improve the immune system as well as alkalizing. Those buggers are in my eye sockets and ears/nose. I thought also of using a mister with colloidal silver for the face. If you have comment or suggestions I would appreciate those. Namaste Om
(Hope, Bc, Canada)
Do not use turpentine gum oil in the bath! It's a nerve existed and has batch non stop tingle on wet skin, much like tea tree oil but twice as so.
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Om...I'm in the same situation as you -- no-one takes baths in the Philippines, its always showers. Some more suggestions for you.
If you regard your mite problem as just topical and not internal, then you can try the following remedies:
* Use the topical remedy that Ted uses for Lyme/Morgellon's Disease shown here on EC. His remedy is also geared to kill a wide range of pathogens including insects, worms, fungus, bacteria, viruses, parasites etc. I would simply use this hydrogen peroxide/borax remedy topically after showering, applying it to all your mite infected areas(including hair and scalp) and leave it to dry and soak in properly without washing it off. Later, after an hour or two, you can wash it off. It might also be advised to hydrate the skin afterwards using aloe vera oil or coconut oil.
Ted has also used a stronger modified form of this remedy in the past to get rid of his more serious Morgellon's problem(also a tick problem) when he was working in America -- using 2% - 3% DMSO(Dimethylsulfoxide), 5% borax in a 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution as a topical remedy. He also suggested using neem. See this link. This creates sodium perborate in solution which is carried into the sub-epidermal regions by DMSO to more effectively kill all the mites and pathogens lurking deep inside the skin. This remedy is very efficient and doesn't just act on top of the skin but works its magic deeper in the sub-epidermal layers to kill the mites and larva there as well.
My own favourite all-round topical remedy, which might also help you, is to simply apply DMSO mixed with a few drops of lugols iodine to the offending areas. Works on the same principals as Ted's Morgellon's remedy(iodine is carried deep into the skin by the DMSO). I now use a 50-50 mix of DMSO with lugols iodine but I would not advise other people to try this because some people might get a reaction in the thyroid caused by lack of certain anti-oxidants in their diet. For more on this aspect see here and here.
* For your nasal problems which are most likely a fungal/bacterial problem, I would recommend the product shown here. I know this product works well because my daughter-in-law uses it for her rhinitis, allergy and blocked nose problems and it works like magic. It is an all herbal nasal product made in an organic way without the use of chemicals, steroids, anti-histamines etc. Another option is just to regularly rinse your nose using a neti pot, water and sea salt. Or you can use a dilute solution of lugols iodine with a dropper which will also help to kill pathogens and clear the nose.
If none of the above remedies work for you or you get some improvement but you cannot fully cure your own mite problem with topical remedies alone then, logically, there must be an internal problem in association with the mite problem.
* Take Ted's borax water remedy as shown on EC. Borax acts to dry up and kill the mites from the inside. Add 1/8 tspn borax to a liter of water and drink a liter a day using this remedy on a five days on, two days off cycle like that.
* One of the better remedies against Lyme(and mites) is Dr Lee Cowden's internal all-herbal remedy which is fully described here with all nutrients, dosages and sourcing of ingredients used in his protocol:
Also remember that you will have to disinfect bedding, furniture and clothes to be absolutely sure of mite riddance. Wash all you clothes with borax. Spray a mite disinfectant on bedding and furniture or you can simply sprinkle and use diatomacious earth just as well to kill them in the house.
(Hope, Bc Canada)
Hi Bill, again many thanks for your kindness in providing valuable info. It may well be that I may have them internally, too, do you think that turpentine w. BSM three times a week would deal with that?
I had planned to use neem caps. with basil caps for my sugar which may deal with the problem. But after three months' usage I would have to use something else as neem is very astringent and causes weight loss. I will look into all your suggestions. I was familiar with Ted's info. Actually I can't wait for the time when there will be public confessions - it is going to happen in the near future.
Meanwhile thanks again - where can I buy Lugol's ? All the best, Om
Om from Hope Bc Canada: Hey thanks for the reply Om! I use turpentine as well.
I have the mites too and also did the turpentine thing even my hair. I didn't get rid of them however. Glsd you had such a positive experience. besides the nasty hospital stay I mean. But you lowered the mites load on your body.
I took turpentine, this am and am going to start MMS in a few hours to keep them separate. I am now coated in neem mineral oil and borax mix, with an undercoat of 90 % alcohol including flushing my nose and filling each ear for 15 minutes. Never done so much laundry in my life. I think the neem is going to be the one that tips the tide as it stops them from reproducing.
Did you read the post of the woman who sprayed and left on Kerosene and had wonderful results? Keep you posts going I like to read your thoughts! Mary
(Hope Bc Canada)
Mary from Saskatchewan -- hi Mary! This is also a follow up on my experimentation. Quite frankly, it made no difference in the end. However, it is better to experiment than to be experimented on. My next course of action is to drink 1/8 tsp borax in 1 l water daily, spread over the day.
MMS had worked very well, using it three times in succession in one session. But as with Borax the skin takes a beating. Around the eyes like thin paper! I did always the moisturizing but still, if I did not use the urine therapy, my skin would be almost ruined, having a very fair complexion.
Next I will use neem inside and out as it raises the immune system and has a considerable fame in Ayurveda. With it I will alkalize. That will be for about 12 weeks. If that does not do , there is Bill's suggestion to use Ted's remedy for morgellons.
Originally I contracted this by using someone else's pillow ten years back. I was more than busy with animal rescue and I observed the effects were creeping up eventually. If it can be remedied, time will tell. After using MMS with very good results, they did indeed come back! At any time I use my own saliver which has been very successful for some people. This is why I think urine therapy, the blue print of your body, will be a workable option. I am using it daily on a wash cloth, fresh, and it has a wonderful effect on the skin. Because I am vegan, it is quite pleasant. Those buggers had caused a red passage way on my cheekbone, that is why I thought it was time to try turpentine. It was not worth it.
I did not read of the lady who used kerosene - can you fill me in on this? I could not find it here. I wish you well in your endeavours. Actually, one night I stayed up and copied all the success posts for my perusal. Regards, Om
(San Diego, California)
I have been seeing links to these Artist Turpentine. I don't know if I would use that stuff as the bottle doesn't say 100% pure gum spirits. According to Dr. Jennifer Daniels you want to use 100% pure Gum Spirits which is different then the Synthetic Turpentine. I ordered mine from a company in Georgia who sells 100% Pure Gum Spirits. I have been using the Soap too which is pretty cool but haven't actually tried the Turpentine just yet as I had picked up a slight head cold yesterday. It's gone now but I am wondering since I couldn't smell too much I decided to smell the Turpentine that I ordered knowing it's somewhat similar to Aromatherapy that the things we breath in has an effect on us somehow. Anyways I was sniffing it a bit and I think it might have stirred some stuff up inside me possibly. Anyone know of smelling Turpentine and it basically doing anything for you internally etc? I know that I have Candida from all the Symptoms etc and will be knocking it out here real soon with this Turpentine. I also don't have the sugar on hand to start it either. But as Dr. Daniels states you must be well hydrated when doing this.
Thanks and I welcome your comments.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
HI U SCOTT, , , , , , , when Dr Daniels first wrote about the benefits of Turpentine, I too had no clue where to buy it. No way was I going to buy stuff from Home Depot or Lowe's. This is low grade stuff so I did as you reported, I bought Artist turpentine.
Since then, the firm down in South Georgia has become known. I think that is the way to go. South Georgia and North Fla. was where the naval stores were concentrated way back when. Folks cut the pine trees such that they bled sap and it was collected and made into many products. Soon folks would not do this hard work so it went away. I worked for Brunswick Pulp in the early '60's and these cat faces would not cook up to make paper pulp. They were full of pine resin . They had to be cut out of the pine logs prior to cooking the chips.
Wow, why go around the watermelon as I do? That's because I've been around the watermelon. Do you want to hear from a snot nose KID that has not done sheet in their life, but talk the walk?
When I buy more turpentine , it will be from these folks in South Georgia that walk the talk .
Can someone tell me what they mean by pulling oils?
EC: Please see Earth Clinic's page on Oil Pulling here.
I get mine from Diamond G Forrest Products directly. The owners are terrific. I contracted a worm from sushi that caused a host of ailments. Naturopath ordered an in-depth blood test that found a type of trichonomis spiriruls. She ordered a different blood test to verify if it was dead or alive. By this time I had been taking turpentine for 3 months and knew it was dead (was feeling alive again). So yes, it kills it! Natoropath had never heard of turpentine for deworming but was impressed after reading about it. Start slow and use amount for your weight.
Don't use Klean-Strip. Check your local art supply store to find pure turpentine. It is more expensive but higher quality and taste pretty good with sugar. I use the brand GRUMBACHER. 1 teaspoon turpentine mixed with 1 teaspoon sugar. When taken right before meals, the turpentine is pushed down in to your small intestines by your food. If taken on an empty stomach the turpentine goes straight into your bloodstream which is okay for blood born diseases but does not do much for Candida issues.
I checked the Klean Strip version of turpentine and as I recall the ASTM D4236 I labeled on the packaging as well as it being 100% pure (Max VOC 100%). it should be the same as other brands.
I was just wondering about the duration of the 1 tsp dosage before going to the preventative dose. Consecutively, how long (how many weeks) is it safe to take before reducing to the once or twice a week preventive dose? Thank you so much for all your info!! Lisa
Hi Lisa...In older times and in the satellite countries of Europe and in Germany, they would take turpentine/kerosene for 6 weeks a year for general health. Paula Ganner always maintained that kerosene was a blood purifier -- it would act to kill any pathogen in the blood. Dr J Daniels uses sugar + 1 tspn turps for candida problems. But I prefer castor oil + turps because the castor oil both restricts the absorption of turps into the blood and keeps it in the intestines to kill candda there. The castor oil also helps to spread the turps throughout the intestines with its laxative action. Later on you could perhaps switch to the turps + sugar or turps + molasses protocols to more efficiently kill the candida and other pathogens that are still in the blood.
The preventative dose is on a one day on and one day off basis and is meant to help those who have massive initial Herx die-off reactions by having a day off after you take the turps-- this makes for a gentler ride for the user when you initially kill all that candida.
If you want to take consecutive turps doses for a particular problem then I would take turps for five days and then have two days off turps and do it like this for about 6 weeks only. This protocol will help to get rid of most pathogens and parasites from your body.