I boarded my Maltese and Yorkie at the Vet's office for a week and was told I had to get the Bordetella Vaccine for my Yorkie and Maltese. A week later, when I picked them up they were both wheezing and coughing. It seems the vaccine caused this instead of preventing it.
Our LhasaApso was given a bordetella vaccination to prevent. One week later she developed a severe dog cough and scared us a great deal. Our neighbor commented that her dog also had the same type of cough after the same vaccination. Children's cough syrup helps keep the cough under control. We were not informed when the vaccination was administered that this would happen. In effect, the vaccination for "dog cough" creates "dog cough.
I have an American Eskimo that is 9 years old and recently went in for a bordatella vacination. This was his 9th year of the vacination but first in Canada. Within minutes of getting the vaccine he had his first seizure. It scared me to death and the doctor told me it was because my dog was over excited. This breed is always excited and not once have I ever had a problem with seizure before. The only difference from this vaccine and the others is that the doctor put on a muzzle so he was not allowed to sneeze. My other dog, whom got the same vaccine the same day, was allowed to sneeze as normal and nothing happened to him (same breed). I don't know if this has anything to do with this but it is a difference. Also the manufacturer of the medication could be different.
My girl is a 4 & 1/2yr old white german shepherd. She's had one puppy shot before I got her, and 3 rabies vaccinations because of City Ordinence, next one will be forced on us in April. For the last year and a half I've been giving her, 1Tbsp ACV, 1Tbsp Lemon Juice, and 1 Small Clove of Garlic, (cut into small slivers) mixed with 1 Cup of Beef or Chicken Broth, per day, 5 days out of 7. Her dog food is not top of the line, but rates 4 out of 5 stars on several trusted sites. She's a very Healthy Happy Girl, but I am very concerned about over vaccination issues. I've also read that adding a good organic Coconut Oil to her diet would also help pull the toxins of the shot out of her, and I figure it wouldn't hurt to make that a regular part of her diet any way. BTW I take the same mixture, minus the dog food of course. (LOL) Anyway any feedback on how to lessen the effects of the vaccine would be appreciated.
My heart goes out to everyone who has lost a beloved pet to Corporate Greed. My last white GSD died at 1&1/2 yrs from uncontrollable seizures. I believed the lie and thought I was protecting her from all those horrible health problems. Before that my once in a lifetime greatest dog ever, black & tan GSD died at 10yrs of throat cancer. Thank You in advance for any feedback.
Johnny & Hope in Missouri
Hi, Johnny: Globuli is just a form of medicine in which homeopathic remedies are sold. You can get 3 forms: Tablets, globuli (which are very very small little balls) and liquid. I prefer the globuli but you can also just as well take tablets whatever your druggist lady has available. 5 globuli is the equivilant to 1 tablet. Some dogs don't take them, then you can dilute them in water or even put them in a little meatball. Maybe you can get yourself a book on homoeopathy for animals (I only know German ones but I am sure they have them in English). You can really do so much yourself without going to a vet. So just check into this subject on the internet. There is a wealth of information.
Glad that I could help you, good luck and take care.
My very healthy Zoe 8.5 years old went in for a blood panel & well check up, to give vet a basis for any future problems. Her blood count was 58 within the high normal range. Everything on panel was excellent. The vet at the time gave her a DA2PP vaccine. Two days later, she became listless, feverish and quit eating! She urinated outside I got a paper towel to see if she really peed, as she hadn't drank anything for two days. The paper towel was full of bright red blood! Omg! Brought her back to vet. He took her blood again and it was 18! She turned yellow in her mouth and ears. He gave her antibiotics and steroids suggested we feed her baby food with a syringe. This was a perfectly healthy dog before these vaccines. Took her to another vet in morning as she couldn't even walk by this time. She had her admitted to a VCA Emergency Hospital for a blood transfusion. But her body continued to destroy her own blood cells along with new blood. She passed away at 4am. Diagnosis was IMHA; which is common especially for the female cocker spaniel I find out now, after the fact. No one ever told me that. I would never have allowed the administration of a vaccine that would kill my baby girl. A law needs to be passed, vets should inform cocker owners of the possible threat, at least give the option to the owners. We ended paying approximately $5,000 in attempt to save her life, to no avail. We r so upset! She was a precious girl. I would rather deal with any disease than put her through that. She literally bled to death. She has a brother from her litter and never have been separated; he received same vaccines and had no reaction. But vet medical books are aware of this danger in all cockers, but especially a female. Be aware parents of cockers, this was deadly. Her brother is grieving with us. So sad. Hope this post will save someone else's baby.
I begrudgingly get my fur babies vaccinated. I see how sensitive they are afterwards and the lumps they develop in their necks and think the worst. My family vet had always used the Virbac Canigen brand. It was 3 vaccinations at 8,12 and 16 weeks. I did some research and discovered vets using the Ingleheim Boehringer Protech brand only administered 2 needles. All this paranoia because some idiot says you can't take your dog out until they've had all their shots. I chose to swap to the Protech vaccine for my newest pup. It's been an unmitigated disaster. She's riddled with allergy. And I know it's all my fault â˜¹ï¸
Spread vaccines out as much as as possible. I had always been on the late side of getting my other pooches vaccinated and never had such long term issues.
I cant express my regret enough.
Hi, our cavoodle puppy was given a kennel cough vaccine intra nasal at the age of 10 weeks. She developed Kennel cough from this vaccine, we notified the Vet and took her back to see her. The Vet decided against giving her anti biotics as she sad the pup needed to build up her own immunity. Now we have a very sick puppy, besides the breathing problems she also has inflammed tonsils and throat. And after many xray's and tests confirming the diagnosis the Vet still has not contacted us. We will do this, this coming week.
My wife became very ill, out of breath, after the pup licked her on the face and up the nose. She has had tests and they all confirm that she has contracted bordetela. This has come from our sick puppy. What do we do now?????
Has anyone else had the same problem?????
Very sorry to hear of your problems. Humans contracting bordetella is uncommon but does occur, usually the humans involved have another underlying health issue that makes them susceptible but this is not always the case. The good part about the human side is that the antibiotics used to treat it are commonly available.
As for your puppy, if your vet is not responding I would seek out a new vet. I googled 'holistic vet new south wales' and got three hits, Bangalow, All Natural and another and all looked very good. You should be able to ring up the old vet and have them transfer all of your pup's records over to the new vet if you go that route.
What you can do at home: hydrogen peroxide with honey and bread come to mind, also colloidal silver. Take a peek and read through what others used and did to arrive at a remedy and dose you are comfortable with: https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/cough.html
Please report back!!
I am in rescue. Cats. I am very wary of vaccines, but we have to do them. Vaccines are a vet's bread and butter. Keeps people coming in every year. Many first vaccines are important. The distemper vaccine in a shelter kitten is critical. After that, not so much. We have to do vaccines to show cats for adoption, in a store environment. I noticed that my vet was giving full 1 ml vaccines to baby kittens. That's the same amount you would give an adult. Later on the kitten would die of FIP.
This year I have insisted upon a third to quarter dose FVRCP for kittens, 1/2 dose rabies for a 6 month old kitten, and I won't do rabies at 4 months. So far no issue. My vet thinks I'm nuts. I know I'm not.
Last year was horrible. We take in over 100 animals/year. I've seen kittens change right after vaccines and never be the same again.....on a heavy slide to death, but healthy prior. Unimaginable heartache. I've spent thousands of dollars on blood tests etc. I've shed way too many tears. No way should a baby kitten or small dog get the same amount of vaccine as a big dog, or adult cat. Vets are not catching on to this. Also, I am in the unique position to interview people whose pets have recently died.
The pet owners whose cats live to be 20, don't do yearly vaccines. This is what I have noticed. Too many animals also die of sarcomas. The killed virus vaccines(rabies) are given in the flank, and site of injection is usually notated in the records, in case a sarcoma develops at the site of the injection. The leg could then be amputated. I hope this post saves someone's pet. I have shed too many tears. I rescue to save lives, not to watch baby kittens and cats die needlessly. Endless heartache.
I agree with many issues in your post! When I have youngsters to vaccinate I hold off until 16 weeks for the first poke of core vaccinations, do the second poke one month later and then boost at 1 year, and then cease vaccinations. I do rabies at 6 months and boost 1 year later, and then every 3 years or as required by law in my area. I think if you can order your own vaccines and dose 1/3 or 1/2 as you are doing that is great. We cannot order rabies vaccine - vet's must administer and I know my own holistic vet is under a lot of fire from the Western practitioners who simply do not understand how the alternative side of things work, that he would never risk his practice by dosing anything but the full dose :( So glad you are able to do the reduced rabies dose!
My daughter dog is a chihuahua mix that weighs 13 lbs recently had the DHLP-P-C vaccine. The day after her shot, she started coughing and hacking up phlegm very often. We just put two and two together because two years ago she had the same symptoms which we thought was Kennel Cough because we had just got her from a rescue place but they had administered her annual vaccine right before we picked her up. Last time we took her the Vet and they put her on antibiotics three times she had it for months after that. Has any other pet owner had this happen to their furry friend??
Bella is a four year old Havenese mix breed, about 9 lbs. Three days ago I took her to get her rabies vac and they also gave her the combo vac called DHLPP-C. This is for distemper, hepatitis, leptospirosis, parainfluenza and parvovirus. She whimpered excessively immediately after shots were given, and was very shaky for hours following. Over the last three days she is not herself, has vomited twice, had diarrhea, yelps out in pain, shakes, lost her appetite, very lethargic. Last night she cried for over an hour. I am waiting to hear back from vet, who is out of town, to see what I can do to help her. I am feeling so guilty that I didn't ask any questions about what vaccines she was getting and why, as I now know the DHLPP is not required. Any suggestions for readers would be appreciated.
You might try adding activated charcoal- loose or easier to dose tablets - to Bella's food for a few days to help her detox. Also homeopathic Thuja in a crisis dose [initial frequent dosing as indicated on package label] may help Bella. Focus on keeping her hydrated rather than fed at this point, and consider dosing activated charcoal in doggy pedialyte if she has no interest in taking the tablets hidden in a tasty treat. Please report back!
I recently took my 2 dogs, an Austrailian Shepard 2 years old 55 pounds and my Little Terrier Mix 15 years old 10 pounds to the Vet for their annual check-up and vaccinations. The Dr. gave them their vaccinations and a Perfect bill of health, which always makes me happy.
That day I kept my eye on them and they both seemed unbothered by the vaccinations or visit. However, the next day I noticed my Little Terrier was sniffling. I didn't pay much attention because the house was a little cold however, the sniffles have not gone away and that was 2-12 months ago. Other than that she is happy, healthy, eating and drinking fine.
Has anyone else had or know of this reaction or what can be done?
When I got my male kitten, Roscoe neutered at about 4 to 5 months of age, the vet suggested we get his vaccinations at the same time as the neutering. We followed his recommendation and the kitten seemed fine the first day... but then he became weak and lethargic. He would not eat or drink. By the 3rd day I started force feeding him baby food (chicken) diluted with water through a syringe several times a day. By the 6th day he was starting to eat on his own. He is now just over 2 years old and quite healthy.
I've since read that vaccinations given along with surgery and anesthesia is too much for a young animal's system. Please have your animal vaccinated first, then wait a month or so and return for the neutering... Don't do it all at once no matter what your veterinarian is recommending.
While on the subject of neutering.. my now 8 year old male cat, Buddy was neutered at about 3 months and he then developed a problem getting crystals or stones (likely because his urethra was not matured) and is now on a more expensive 'urinary tract' cat food. I recommend waiting until the male kitten is about 5 months old, female kittens can be spayed earlier. My cat is fine as long as he gets the special canned and dry foods. Two times he had the blocked urethra problem (which can be deadly within a short time).. the first time I took him to the vet.. very costly. The next time it happened I gave him a Apple Cider Vinegar and water mix with a syringe several times a day until I saw results. You do not need a lot of ACV (maybe 1/3rd of the small syringe full, fill the rest with plain water) Within less than 12 hours he was urinating fully, he was back to normal within 2 days.
I'm not a doctor or a vet, this is just my own personal experience. Please do your research.
Read more about ACV at the "Natural Cystitis Remedies for Cats" page here at Earthclinic.
Our 14 lb tabby cat got his vaccines yesterday and while he's normally very active, hungry, always purring & loving, today he won't eat, is tender in his hind end, lethargic and distant. They want him back for his booster next month but I'm thinking of skipping it. He let us know he wasn't happy about the shots by peeing in hubby's work bag :(
Please help!! I just took our baby (a shitzu mix) yesterday to get his da2ppv booster, lepto, and rabies booster. I hate the lepto and skipped it last year but asked for a lower dose this year. Now I have a lethargic, unwilling to move on his own, dog. He yelps when you touch his body and can't walk on his back leg. Food is of no interest to him and we have to bring his water to him. I called my vet this am and the nurse said it's just like when a little infant gets shots...they get sore. Wth??? My dog doesn't MOVE, EAT, OR DRINK. And all he does is yawn and sleep! Sorry, but I tear up every time he looks at me :(
Sorry to hear about your boy experiencing side effects from vaccination.
Often the first 'go to' remedy for vaccination side effects is homeopathic Thuja Occidentalis. It is in the form of tiny sugar based pills; dose them directly into your dog's mouth and hold it shut for a few moments for them to dissolve- do NOT touch the pills as this can de-activate them.
If your boy is in good weight and not skin and bones, I would not sweat the lack of appetite too much. Offer him broth or home made doggy pedialyte for electrolytes and salts to keep him hydrated. If he does not want to drink then use a syringe and get **something** down him so he does not get dehydrated; do the fluids about half an hour AFTER the thuja to avoid de-activating the thuja. Dose the thuja every 2-4 hours to start, and monitor results. It it is the right remedy you will see some improvement in the first 6 hours or so. Again, do not push him to eat, but do offer him broth to keep the sugar, salts and electrolytes up.
Once he comes around it might be a good idea to offer him activated charcoal in some canned food, or bentonite clay - these will help draw the toxins from his body as they pass through. Additional support for his organs might be milk thistle.
If this were my dog next time I would consider only doing the legally required rabies vaccine and skip all the rest.
Good luck and please report back!
Hi Michele, so sorry you had vaccine problems. As an owner of toy dog breeds, I NEVER give them the Lepto vaccine. In many toy breeds such as Shih Tzu it can cause bad problems and even death. I know that many toy puppy health guarantees are void if the lepto vaccine is given.
Another thing concerning vaccines...it is really bad to get a rabies vaccine at the same time as the distemper combo. I wait at least 3 wks. between vaccines. This is not something all vets will tell you and to my knowledge the amount of lepto in a vaccine cannot be reduced. For more info about vaccination you can google Dr. Dodds vaccine recommendations.
I was trying to find an answer to a question when I came across this site and read how dogs don't need to be vaccinated every year after having them done as puppies. We were upset when our usual vet retired and another vet injected our little Jack Russell on his back above his hind leg. All the other vets we've used did it in the scruff, but she crept up behind our dog whilst my son was holding him and did it quick without us being able to stop her. My son asked what she was doing and she said they did it there sometimes when they didn't want to cause stress. Two weeks later, he seemed to act strangely, as if he were dreamy and then he began to lose control of his bladder. He was eight years old, but he was healthy before the vaccination. We took him to be checked out after the bank holiday and he was scanned around his bladder and had blood taken. Then we were given some tablets for infection, even though the vet said there wasn't any sign of infection. We were so afraid he would die suffering as two other dogs we'd had, we believed suffered with cancer, so we took him to be euthanized, which ended up being quite horrific as he cried and was fighting it. Now I'm wondering if it was the vaccination or the way that it was administered that actually caused our last little dog's death. We cannot bear to go through such heartbreak again, so we can't have another. I'm afraid the vets have broken our trust now.
I can't begin to tell you how upsetting your post is. I am sorry for your little JRT.
It is hard to answer your question about the vaccine causing a reaction observed in your dog two weeks after it was injected without knowing what it was that was injected. IMHO from what you posted - dreamy look/loss of bladder control - sounds like your dog may have had idiopathic epilepsy, which can appear at any age - but this is only my guess based on what you shared. And the vet told you true: many animals won't notice a poke in the leg or rump but take exception - terriers in particular - to having their scruff's grasped for any reason, much less a sharp poke.
It is unfortunate that you were not aware of the services being provided in time enough to accept or decline them. When you show up at the vet, you need to know *why* you are there so you can discuss your options. Vet and client should have a two way relationship and I can only urge everyone to not settle for the closest vet to you - but to go the distance for the vet you find you *can* trust.
I can assure you your dog died because you euthanized it. It may or may not have had what your last two may have had; this cannot be ascertained unless you do a necropsy/autopsy- however it sounds as if you really do not know why the last two died as you did not perform diagnostic tests. Since it's three dogs now for you feel that had the same issue, you should strongly consider environmental toxins in your home as a possible common factor in all this. Kudos for making the decision to not obtain another dog.
RIP little JRT
(Hope, Bc. Canada)