I have found this on the internet. So I feel like I need to let your readers know about using Ivermectin.
This is from "Mar Vista Animal Medical Center." THIS MEDICATION IS NOT SAFE FOR USE IN COLLIES, SHETLAND SHEEPDOGS, AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERDS, OLD ENGLISH SHEEPDOGS, AND SOME WOULD SAY, ANY HERDING BREED.
Sensitivity to ivermectin may not be predictably limited to "collie breeds" and thus it is often prudent to use a lower test dose before initiating the relatively high doses of ivermectin needed to treat demodicosis. Not all individuals of collie heritage are sensitive to ivermectin and a test is in development to determine whether an individual should be able to safely take ivermectin or not. There is a range of ivermectin doses used in the treatment of demodicosis and it seems that higher doses do clear infection faster than lower doses. This means that if a lower dose has been ineffective, a higher dose may still work. This does not mean that a pet owner should experiment with ivermectin doses on their own as there is some potential for lethal toxicity if this drug is not used appropriately.
The only thing that has worked for me through many years with dogs, is Lytar. It has sulfer and tar in it and it kills the mites. It only takes two or three washings. I wash them every other day for a week then one more for good measure about two weeks later. The tar kills the mites and the sulfer stops the scabbing and flaking. In really bad cases, it may take longer.
Hello, I have quite a problem, my dog about 6 weeks ago was starting to bite a lot at his paw and had slight itching on his hind leg not bad but slight i was taking him in for his regular check up and mentioned it to the vet , she said he had try skin and some skin irritation and put him on predisone and a anti-biotic, it seemed right after that it got much worse, funny thing i started itching myself a bit especially under my arms and stomach,.
Well my dog really got bad to the point he been bleeding a bit very badly itching has bald spots on his paws and hind legs and his stomach is really raw .I took him back to the vet today first thing she thought of was fleas, i thought this might very well be due to the fact im now itching a real lot and have a rash under both armpits. She combed him and said no he don't have fleas and just said he has bed allergic reaction or dematitis gave him predisone and a different anti biotic.
Now after reading on here I came across scabies and mites and it is exactly what i believe is going on, the other thing I noticed with my dog which never had before if i scratch him on the back his hind leg goes like crazy in an itching motion which i never noticed before until the last few weeks , well it said on the site that is a sure way to tell if he has mites.
Now I also read that the dogs immune is probably weak if he gets mange, now this may sound weird but i developed electrical sensitivities a few yrs ago after moving into this new place i wa much worse put on alot of weight shortly after that my dog put on alot of weight too i think the EMF here is bad I feel that may have weakened his immune system I thought i read awhile ago on this site about products for EMF is there anything you could recommend for that?
Thanks Very Much
Hi, I read all your cures of mange with much interest. I took in a rescue 4 month old pit bull puppy with mange. I've been doing this only a week and it is clearing up. Someone on here suggested Selsun Blue so I've been bathing her every other day with that and then do a dip of diluted iodine after the bath. When I worked in Microbiolgy , we used diluted iodine to kill aids virus and any other virus or bacteria. Then I took part of Ted's mange cure, hydrogen peroxide. I spray her everywhere with 3% three times a day. Then at night I massage in Goodwinol ointment (Amazon) on all affected area's. It's working. If you spray the feet make sure you pull the skin up off the nails so you get to the root of the problem.
Robert Henry from Ten Mile, Tn -
I would like to use your method of curing dogs from mites, etc. I would be most appreciative of the dosage, such as how much sulfur, which kind of sulfur, perhaps flowers of sulfur? The duration of keeping kerosene on the skin. Finally I would like to use it on myself, too.
Since I look after rescue pets, it would be a boon to know the precise procedure.
I am enjoying your posts. Have a blessed and prosperous New Year. Om
(Hope Bc Canada)
(Sun City Ca.)
(Hope Bc Canada)
(Sun City Ca.)
My 2 year old rescue (approximately 50 lbs, very lean and muscular) started showing sign of sarcoptic mange. He is generally a very itchy guy (lots of seasonal allergy issues) but this was different. He was itching specifically on paws, fleshy underside, and most of all his neck. He began to rapidly lose hair, about a 5 inch wide by 3 inch all patch of his neck was now bare, red and irritated. He is a very wild and anxious rescue dog, despite a lot of training and work with me, and he does NOT do well at the vet. In addition I prefer natural remedies and I hate the idea of using anything harsh or caustic on his already sensitive skin. I decided to try a mixture of natural approaches i'd read about online before resorting to a vet visit.
Diet: I already feed him a natural high protein locally produced kibble, but I began adding 1 tbsp of kelp powder to each feeding. I also added 3 pumps of salmon oil, and half a capsule of zinc (emptied the powder onto his kibble). Lastly I ground up 1 tbsp of flax seed (also known as flax meal but I prefer to grind my own). I mixed all of this together in his meals (I feed him twice per day). He loved the taste and ate it all... I also supplemented in 1/2 can of pure pumpkin about 2x per week for a natural source of zinc (and unrelated digestive aid).
Topical: I mixed 2 drops lavender oil with about 1 tbsp of vitamin E oil. I applied usually 2x per day. This worked well on his neck to soothe the inflamed skin and itching, but I couldn't use it on other parts of his body due to incessant licking.
His mange did not seem to improve in the first week, in fact it seemed to worsen at only a slightly less rapid rate. As I started to despair and think about bringing him into the vet, around day 10 he started to get better. We continued this regimen for about 10 more days (nearly 3 weeks in total). His itching stopped and he began to slowly grow the hair back. It actually has taken him almost 4 months to grow all the hair back and even still, it is thinner than the other unaffected hair.
We had one other small bout maybe 6 months later, he was itchier than usual and losing hair on his neck again. I started adding zinc for maybe one week, and the itching stopped and hair grew back! It really is a wonderful natural way to help your pet, but may not work in extreme cases.
Hope this is helpful for those who are leery of treatments that seem potentially harsh like boric acid or conventional dips and sprays.
I have been reading Ted's remedy for mange and I would like to contribute with some more information.
I have been treating an abandoned dog for over 6 years now due to demodesic mange. He didn't have a permanent home, so I had trouble in keeping the medical routines. Now I brought it to my house decided to finish with his disease. I've been shooting him with Ivermectin and bathing with Amitraz for long time, though I have stopped in some periods when he got better or when he was too infested to take the baths.
Finally, I decided to try with homeopathy and wrote to some vets and got some directions.
- I started giving him Sulphur & Psorinum everyday (20 little globules of each diluted in milk, yougurt or water) on empty stomach. Can feed him after 20 minutes.
- Daily massages with Almond Oil mixed with drops of Lavender Oil. 5 drops of Pure Lavender Oil in 30 cc of Almond oil. He loves the massages.
- A weekly bath with a shampoo of peroxide that my vet says it can be prepared by the pharmacy, and it's cheaper than buying it ready with a brand name. Basically, the shampoo has to have an ingredient able to get rid of the excess of serum of the hair follicles which is the main food of the demodex mite. (In the dictionary is called follicle mite: any of several minute mites of the genus Demodex that are parasitic in the hair follicles).
- I give him Omega3 in capsules every day or two, I gave him Echinacea (1/2 capsule) for 7 days, to reinforce his inmune system.
- I apply Omega3 Pet oil (two puffs) in his daily food.
He had big and smelly pimples that made awful bleeding after he scratched them. Researching about mange, I discovered that Mange itself it is not smelly. Bad smell is not because of Mange, but definitelly because some oportunistic bacteria has started living in the wounds produced by so much scratching. Those pimples are infections that produce the bad smell and have to be treated with ANTIBIOTICS. I found out this now, and I was so surprised that none of the vets that saw this dog ever told me of this. Finally, one vet mention this important fact so she prescribed an antibiotic that had to be taken for at least 7 days,every 8 hours. CEFADROXILO is the name of this antibiotic in this country. It contains every 5ml, 250 mg of Cefadroxilo Anhidro (as a monohidrate). It comes in powder and has to be mixed with water. One bottle of preparation lasted only 5 days, so I gave him 2 bottles =10 days. The smell dissapeared 99% and also the pimples and now he looks much healthier, doesn't scratch and his hair is growing little by little. He still has some black spots and some red areas but no open wounds, no pimples, no smell, besides the normal dog smell.Finally, researching on the properties of the Aloe Vera plant, I discovered that one of the properties of the aloe gel is that it can help tremendously in the serum control of the hair, so I started to rub the black spot areas of his skin with this, and it seems to be working fine, cause besides hydrating the area, it is a powerful antiseptic.
Now that he doesn't have any wounds, I will start with the Sodium Perborate & Hydrogen Peroxide treatment.
I will also try the tip of putting 1/8 teaspoon of Sodium Perborate/Borax in the drinking water.
With all the years I have been treating dogs with mange, I came to realize that in order to definitely finish with it, you have to give the dog all the time necessary for the cure of this disease, cause the almost full time treatment requires all the patience you can have. It is needed a big amount of love for animals in the main place.
Hope my experience is of some help to any of you. Thanks for the space to share this.
Our dog Coco who had this when we got her home. She was still a pup. She got this from the mother dog. Coco has a very delicate system. We first tried the vet's way with a dip that stunk like rotten eggs. We brought her home and tried that until the dips irritated her skin and she ran a tempature. We put Coco on local antibiotics one for her face and an oral one. The doctor put her on Ivermectin and it worked for a while until she started to throw up the meds. This is what is used in heart worm medication. Also the vet told us not to give her Ivermectin at the same time as we gave her heart worm meds. When we had stopped the Ivermectin within 3 months the buggers came back in full force. So, we did some research holitically that landed us here on this website. We went to a local pet feed store. They have a lot of holistic foods etc. At the store, I found a local over the counter medicine for sarcoptic mange for dogs and horses. It has linseed oil, pine tree oil and sulfur. It has a smell to it but not as bad as the other stuff from the vet. Asked if it worked and one customer tried it and it worked. I cleaned her with a well known flea and tick shampoo which had Pyrethrin in it. This one product had the highest Pyrethrin in it out of all the others. Pyrethrin is a natural insecticide. We wet her down scrubbed & washed her in our tub with warm water with the flea and tick shampoo and left it on her for about 7 minutes. Her scabs came off. We dried her off. I took a face sponge for make-up put the mange medicine on her. Around her face we used vegetable oil. It took a bottle of that mange medicine. After, I put the mange medicine we rubbed her with vegetable oil. I also used the spray vegetable oil which works well for "Hot Spots". We did this for about 3 weeks. Then we changed our regime and first washed her with some of our vet's shampoo for dogs for delicate skin. It is is a Hypo-Allergenic Shampoo. Then we still used the flea and tick shampoo. Then we stopped the mange lotion and put a biological natural flea and dog spray on her. It has avocado and other natural stuff for their skin as well as something for fleas & ticks. This worked well on her. She's an indoor dog. So far so good. Her hair is growing back and she's happy and playing. We also placed her on a dog food that has Salmon in it for her skin. We also put an insecticide for the yard to kill bugs, fleas, ticks. etc. We washed her bedding and cleaned our carpet with a carpet shampoo. I would suggest covering your furniture and pillows because of the mange medicine. This process takes about three weeks to a month. Ths skin will dry and flake off and the new skin comes in. I hope this helps.
I did the dip regimen then vet wanted to do Ivermectin, which i thought tooo toxic & only 50% chance cure (plus $500+). Plus hair mostly grown back, but still scrappings showed the little buggers.
I went to Dr. Kerry Brown, homeopathic vet. Lucky closeby. He's trying "Kool Kan", Chinese herb tabs to build immune system, an a high strength flea collar, as the couple bare spots were around neck. Seems to have stabilized and checking monthly.
I will try the ACV or the benzoil peroxide this weekend--as see vet again Monday---and will see if this helps.
(Calgary, Ab, Canada)
My little dog just came back from a grooming session. He had a terrible itch all over several weeks ago but I thought I had eliminated what I thought might have been mites as for a good two weeks he seemed to be free of itch. The second day after grooming I noticed he had lesions around his neck face and armpits which became worse by the day. Also, I noticed, for the first time, black spots. He also was crying pitiously off and on as if someone was hurting him.
I did research and found out that dog scabies is different from human scabies and also very contageous. Rather than relying on the borax method, I used MMS topically as a spray. Topical treatment with MMS uses stronger dosage. I sprayed him and myself hourly for a day and he slept well and did not cry at all. The lesions seem to clear up but it will take perhaps a few more days.
Second day, I sat at my pc and looked out of the window to notice an unusual clarity of vision and brilliance of colour. I did research and read one comment from one other user of MMS about the same thing - better vision.
I am beginning to trust this remedy and hope to start internal doses soon, starting very low. My cats will start with half a drop for their individual needs. On reading many posts on this, I feel it is vital to follow the protocol and stay low to avoid unpleasant effects as this remedy cleans up and removes lots of pathogens. If MMS can cure malaria in a couple of days, it sounds extremely promising...
Thanks to Jim Humble for his humanitrian service. Om
(Hazel Green, Alabama)
I had a very hard time & a sad one at that, I found a cat where later on I was not aware of what she had, I checked with our Vet. he was very vague as to what it was but he stated that what is out side also is inside. So I continued doing many web searches as well as EarthClinic this cat was tiny where I thought she was a kitten the Vet.said she was an old lady, I used the information from EarthClinic I treated her as often as possible, what I found was very strange, she had these very sharp prong like things sticking out around the tail/lower back only in the winter then summer time I could no longer feel them.
Needless to say she slept close to my small older dog, when summer came I checked my dog & saw what I thought were either fleas or ants she was infested with them, I took her to the groomers & had her shaved completely, whatever they were was gone but in the mean-time these fleas(?) Mange had laid eggs in-side of my dogs skin, she was digging her fur right off & deep into her skin was raw & bleeding. I did the mange treatments every three to four days, I also found that these mites attach themselves to animals with very weak immunity, I say this because I have a younger dog that he only needed to be bathed with Teds solution once then I applied ACV & he was good to go, how-ever I give my pets probiotics every day, my Cock-A-Poo is hanging in there but still itches but not quite as bad.
I also learned of another product called diatomaceous earth food grade product, I applied this after all of her treatments had helped the most but to secure the issue.It's a very messy powder the dogs shake it off every where, so I spend most of my time cleaning, but I love my pets, how-ever my poor little kitty was serving life with this mange I could not see any results with any healing what-so-ever, she kept tapping my leg & I looked into her eyes I knew she was in much pain, her eye was constantly draining tears where it looked like blood stains.I had to have her put to sleep. My other two dogs are doing a little better, I have high hopes of my Cock-A-Poo getting better or at least more comfortable she is eighty years old in peoples age, she is totally blind but does very well other wise. Thank You for allowing me to share.
@David from Dublin & @Toni from Las Vegas: I was at my wit's end in finding a cure for my puppy's demodectic mange when I came across your posts.
My puppy had a traumatic demodectic mange experience which included an overdose of Ivermectin such that she went blind for a couple of days from the side-effects, before the vet flushed the insecticide out from her system. That was three weeks ago.
Since then she was placed on the Amitraz spray. That didn't seem to show much effect, and I noticed my puppy was scratching quite a bit, and there were pimples showing on her head and body, plus some shedding of her coat.
After reading your posts today, I decided to experiment with mixing mustard powder into her shampoo. After her bath, I applied some of the mustard mixture into the Aloveen conditioner and massaged them onto her skin.
It's been 12 hours since my puppy's bath and I noticed she had not scratched herself even once. Shall keep the routine for the next few days and hopefully, the results will be good.
(Los Angeles, Ca)
I know this should be in the Pet section and I can do a copy/paste but I have been reading following Toni's mustard notes about killing mites here and another forum. Reason is I have tried Ted's advice here on mite killing for dogs but it's a problem because my German Shepard has it around her eyes and face. Also the peroxide started bleaching out her coat to an ugly red.
I have not bathed her in the mustard yet and I plan on doing this today or tomorrow. Any ideas on what type of after shampo rinse would be good and not dry out too fast? I plan on doing her brows & face with q tip very carefully. I am working on her immune system with supplements but let me tell you after a year of restricted diets (thinking this was a food allergy) I finally bought a mini microscope and found it is demo mites. The mustard kills them too but I have only treated spots. I am hoping I don't have to bathe her in this stuff every day as she has super thick hair and I am not desparate enough to shave her just yet. Any ideas will be welcome.
I have been giving her the oral IVERMECTIN and upped the dosage for over 2 months now and there is no change at all. I think they are immune to ivermectin and I don't want to further damage her immune system. My other small dog does not have the mite or any itch problems at all. I am set on boosting her immune system and using the mustard washes. Any ideas about dipping this dog with mustard will be welcome. Also I have run the mustard thru coffe pot and used nothing but the juice but not sure if it is a powerful as mixing distilled water with the ground mustard. I hate the grains left from the powder left in her hair as it looks almost like the demo mite eggs.
I've seen neem oil mentioned in posts for mange but what is neem oil used for? I'm a bit confused. Is it for dry skin treatment?
A number of years ago, we acquired a German Shepherd with a severe case of mange, covering about 1/3 of his body. The vet's expensive prescription products hardly touched it. After a lot of study, I found a product generally used for horses to heal wounds and rashes. It's called Nu-Stock. It cleared the mange up after only 2 applications and it has never returned. His hair grew back very quickly, and although he wasn't too thrilled with the first application, he WANTED the second one very much. The itching stopped immediately.
A couple years later, my daughter had a rash that no doctor seemed able to get rid of. We tried the Nu-Stock and it cleared right up and hasn't returned.
I've had a problem with athlete's foot for years. I tried all the other remedies and it got rid of "most" of it, but there was a spot on the ball of one foot, including two toes where it just wouldn't go away. One day it occurred to me to try Nu-Stock. After just a couple of applications, the skin was back to normal, all itching gone, and it appears to be healing permanently. I think this is going to finally kill it!!!
Doing a little studying, I've found that Nu-Stock is 73% sulphur, 25% mineral oil, and 2% pine oil.
I've also discovered that there are other health products made for pets that aren't available for people. For instance, in the local Farm & Fleet, you can buy a cheap package of electrolytes for your pet's water. 16 oz. of DMSO was only $5. And there were other things as well, most of them in the section for horses! Isn't it amazing that you can buy products for your pets, cheaply, and you can't get prescription products that work for yourself???
EC: Yes, agreed! Years ago we bought a 5 lb container of glucosamine at a tack shop in Burbank, CA for about $45 to give to our dog for his arthritis. The tack shop also sold chondroitin in large containers too.