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Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Anicka (Canada) on 06/04/2014
I need chanca piedra liquid 4oz ASAP. do you sell it . how much? How long for shipping? I live in Nelson British Columbia Canada. I went on Amazon.com and cannot be shipped before June 17-25 estimate.....so more that 15 days.
Waiting in pain
Anicka
EC: Anicka, we don't sell chanca piedra. If you google 'chanca piedra canada' you will find sources within Canada who may be able to get it to you quickly. Good luck!
Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Shawn (Ottawa) on 07/09/2016
Here in Canada you can get from well.ca - they ship very fast. I got mine the next day if you order before 10am EST
Hepatitis B
Posted by Teena (Melbourne, Australia) on 07/23/2018 233 posts
Josephine, I have not used chanca piedra for hbv but would recommend covering and steeping your tea for minimum 20 minutes before you drink. Steeping longer brings out the bitter properties which can only be beneficial for the liver. Best to you.
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Sue (Fairfax, Va Usa) on 02/14/2013
Question for Bill: I'm interested in chanca piedra for kidney stones (passed one 2 weeks ago, there are 3 small ones, 1-2mm, in rt. Kidney). But you mention it can remove (excess) calcium from bones, and I have severe osteoporosis... Also, though I am not on blood pressure meds, mine is normally low, about 110/60, with occasional atrial ectopic heartbeats and tachycardia. So I'd be concerned if the herb lowers it further. Do you have any experience with these issues? So very grateful for your thoughts, and all your enormously informative posts!
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Kingq (Chonburi, Thailand) on 01/19/2014
What is the best method and dosage of Chanca Piedra to take for gallstones? Capsule or tea? Capsules are easier for me.
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Jennifer (Toronto, CA) on 03/30/2015
I am wondering if anyone can offer some insight. I have multiple kidney stones ranging from 4-9mm in size, and am pregnant. The only solution I have been offered is pain management with some drugs that I am absolutely terrified to take. I know that chanca piedra can break up stones even this size, but am sceptical to begin taking any as it has no studies about safe quantities during pregnancy. Can anyone offer any information as to whether taking a moderate or low dose is an option?
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 04/30/2016
Hi Bill,
I have just been diagnosed with a 2.5mm kidney stone which was too dense to respond to laser lithotripsy. I believe my doctor wants to go the kidney surgery route next which would be a nightmare for me! I may be able to put it off for a few months, but I am on borrowed time. I read in your previous posts that "tea" is your preferred method - is this just putting a powder in hot water or letting the leaves soak for a few minutes, then straining? I have also bought the "liquid herbal extract" - is this the water extract you referred to? I need something that works quickly and effectively (you should have seen the look on the doctor's face when I referenced CP). I appreciate any tips you can give me - I am new at this thing. Thanks.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/09/2016
Hi Bill...It turns out that the kidney stones I have (incl. the 2.5 cm.) are uric acid/calcium. I am continuing on the CP capsules and have added 240 mg/day magnesium (as amino acid chelate) as well as doctor's prescription of potassium citrate (15 meq). The Dr.says I will never dissolve these stones and wants to operate through my back and retrieve them. Will the chanca piedra still work on these types of stones? I will continue the CP regimen for as long as I have to if it means avoiding this surgery. I am also going to start the tea form if it is more potent. Thank you so much.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/14/2016
Bill, thank you so much for your prompt response -
2 more questions:
Are there any dietary restrictions/limitations during this regimen (dairy, calcium, oxalates, purines)?
Can the tea form of chanca piedra also be taken daily for a longer duration(months)?
Your input is much appreciated - thank you.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/09/2017
Abigail, I would stop taking it until the pain stops. Then you might start again but in a much lower dose.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 04/27/2016
Hi Lea...Just use Chanca piedra (CP) on its own for gallstones -- that should easily be enough to dissolve and get rid of them. After all, CP's other nick-name is "Stone Breaker" with a long and highly successful history and reputation for dissolving both kidney stones and gallstones.
Take the Chanca piedra as a tea four times a day if you can (CP is not poisonous). If this is not possible then take 500 mgs capsules three times a day.
Avoid buying any herbs that have added chemicals or are denoted as "chemically standardized". Adding chemicals to the herb ruins the synergicity of all the herb's active natural chemical components and so this form does not work so well. Instead, you should always buy herbs that are either organic or wild-crafted in order to preserve the natural synergicity of the chemicals in the herb. This form always works the best.
It's difficult to say how long it will take to dissolve your stone. In fact, it's probably more correct to say that you probably have many gallstones and not just one stone. I estimate that you will see results within the week and you should feel much better after 3 or 4 weeks on this protocol. I would also cut down on dairy foods for a while -- avoid foods like milk, cheese, yoghurt. Calcium is a formative constituent of gallstones, so you should also avoid calcium rich foods.
Also, taking magnesium citrate -- 250 mgs twice a day with meals -- will also help to both alkalize the cells and it will also help to more properly balance the Calcium in the body.
Also be aware that supplementing CP lowers blood presssure, lowers blood sugar and helps to remove excess calcium from the blood. So if you are currently taking any drugs that do the same thing -- then taking CP might be contraindicated.
Liver Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 01/26/2024 2477 posts
Hi Joyce,
Start at their recommended dose. The dose I use is for kidney stones and that may be too much for your purpose. I am not recommending the dose I use for your purpose, just saying it is what has worked for me for kidney stones. I have not used CP for your health issue, so I don't know the effective dose to use.
Art
Pseudogout (CPPD)
Posted by Tim (Fla) on 08/16/2022
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After having had my knee drained several times - calcium in the meniscus. Pseudo gout, I started taking a chanca piedra tablet 5 days a week. I have not had a flare up since even though I did bruise my meniscus on a recent bikepacking trip - I did not have a flare up where I certainly would have been off to get it drained in the past
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Katy (NY) on 04/15/2019
Jill, It could possibly be contributing to a cleansing, thus coming out through your skin. I see this often when folks are detoxing from Yeast in the body - you may want to back off the amount you are taking...also drink plenty of water, make sure moving your bowels and consider a probiotic as well.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by HAROLD (NY) on 02/14/2021
Herb Pharm Chanca Piedra (Phyilanthus niruri ) on Amazon, probably maybe iherb, and Vitacost.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Vicki (USA) on 03/06/2020
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I don't know about mentioning brand names on here, but Swanson has the niruri variety. I took a lot of it with no allergy or other symptoms for quite awhile.This has been over 4 yrs. ago. I didn't pass any stones, but noticed cloudy urine the 1st few times I took it. I assumed it was clearing my kidneys & that's what that was. I eventually used up all but one bottle of that great sale order & MOL forgot about it.
BTW, I got Hep B in 1980 & nearly died, then was hospitalized & dosed (not long after an old naturopath saved my life from that & about 4 other concurrent illnesses) by a traditional doctor for bronchitis with an IV antibiotic I TOLD him specifically not to use because it's contraindicated for liver patients. That pretty much finished off my liver. I recently began experiencing bloating of then pain & shrinkage of what has to be my liver. I also have MG & now have CHF & HBP which is killing my kidneys. I am about to scrape up the funds to buy another batch of the niruri & save myself this time.
I used potassium citrate for one of my little dogs with kidney stones & damage from the Sam's melanine contaminated/fortified dog cookies that killed so many pets in the mid 2000s, but I read it can cause potassium problems if not used carefully. Hope this helps someone.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 04/01/2015
Well, it is a uterine relaxant and I read that the Amazonian use high dosages of it to induce abortion. Maybe you could try Apple Cider Vinegar or magnesium for the kidney stones? Because the stones are made of calcium, supporting with magnesium, which is antagonistic to it, might be a good idea.
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Cathey (Covina, Ca) on 08/26/2016
You can order Chanca Pieda online from iherb.com
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (Pompton Lakes, Nj Usa) on 04/27/2017
Hi,
I just wanted to touch base with you-
I've been on 3 cups/day of chanca piedra tea + magnesium and potassium citrate daily for about a year now. There a no changes in 2.5cm. stone size according to ultrasound, although I don't know if density has changed. I will stick with it if this needs more time, or will increase dosage of tea if necessary. I am not in any pain at all, and don't mind continuing with this regimen, but would like to dissolve this boulder once and for all. I am hesitant to go the gallium nitrate route as I prefer a gentler way of dissolving such a large kidney stone. Can chanca piedra take this long to work? Thanks so much for your input.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Joanne (Victoria, Canada) on 07/03/2017
Yes, it will work. Best to add K2 and D drops to your diet to avoid them in the first place.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/19/2014
Hi Debra...I'm afraid exporting/importing whole live plants/seeds from one country to another is extremely complicated, laden with rules, expensive and just not viable I'm afraid. It's also unlikely that Chanca piedra will ever be sold as a garden plant -- because it is a very plain plant that is essentially a weed with small flowers.
My opinion is that Chanca piedra might also grow in the jungle regions of northern Australia because chanca piedra also definitely grows in the western Pacific Rim islands and countries opposite northern Australia -- all jungle areas. So perhaps you could take a holiday sometime in these hotter Aussie jungle regions and find the plant and pick the seeds and grow them for free.
Chanca piedra grows about a meter in height. It's one single distinguishing and unique feature is that its small seeds can be found directly underneath and along the main stem petiole of the leaves of the plant. Here is an image of it to show you what I mean:
Chanca Piedra
If you use Google images search, then you can find plenty of images of Chanca piedra. And if you can adequately recognize the plant from this one unique feature that I've described, then you may well be able to recognize and find it in the jungle regions of northern Australia.
Liver Issues
Posted by Joyce (London ) on 01/27/2024
Thank you Art for your speedy reply. I had started with 2 capsules and would have endured the stomach pain it caused to achieve healing . Will reduced to 1, take as directed. Thank you for being a compass to us all as we follow our healing journey with perseverance.
Gout
Posted by Joseph A. (Stockton, California ) on 11/15/2022
The capsules of Chanca piedra are how many MG milligrams? Currently I am taking 500mg daily, I still have pain, I will have to increase. Let me know how many MG and how often. Thank you
Where to Buy: Nigeria
Posted by Austine (Lagos, Nigeria) on 08/13/2021
Chanca Piedra for Hepatitis B+
I have read so much on the testimonies of Chanca Piedra in curing Hepatitis. Please where can I get the plant in Nigeria?
Uterine Polyps
Posted by HisJewel (USA) on 02/25/2020
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I see that I was not clear in the amount of Chanca Piedra that I took. The directions said to take two capsules once a day. Each capsule is 900mg. In April 2019, I took two 900mg capsules, that equaled to 1800mg. In January 2020, I tried them again, this time I took one capsule that is 900mg with No problems. Directions on my supplement bottle did not say whether to take with or without food. I generally take mine with, or after breakfast. HisJewel
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Jill D. (United States) on 04/13/2019
Wondered if you have heard of anyone reacting to the Chanca Piedra in any way. I seem to begin to itch in my arm pits between my fingers, groin area, ankles and I did get some redness on my face.. Great for the pain so cut down dosage to see if I can work into its use. Any thoughts on the itching would be helpful. Thanks.
Where to Buy: France
Posted by Hanela (France) on 08/08/2016
Where can I buy Chanca Piedra in France?? is it safe to buy from online amazon.fr or cdiscount.fr.
Where to Buy
Posted by Suseeq (Sydney, Australia) on 08/25/2015
Just wondering - has anybody in Australia been able to get their hands on chanca piedra as I would like to try for gallstones. Thank you.
Where to Buy
Posted by Nana (Accra) on 08/13/2016
Chanca piedra is all over Ghana the local name is Awo ba agu nakyi .
Where to Buy Seeds: Australia
Posted by Timh (KY) on 10/13/2014 2042 posts
Maybe you can find the plant seedling already potted from an international nursery and then do grafts or harvest seeds from adult plant.
Where to Buy Seeds: Australia
Posted by Debra (Australia) on 10/19/2014 63 posts
I have tried international and still no luck finding seeds or plants. Its a very hard plant to find.
Where to Buy Seeds: Australia
Posted by Alex (Malta) on 12/07/2015
Hi Debra, did you find the seeds sold online? I would also really like to buy them! Thanks xxxx
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Chris (Valley Village, California) on 09/19/2014
I have been looking for Chanca Piedra, in the San Fernando Valley, Ca. Where can I find it?
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Sandi (Wichita, Kansas City) on 10/31/2014
If you are having a hard time looking for the seeds or the grown plant in your area, why not buy the capsule form instead. Bill had mentioned several sites where you can buy chanca piedra. My sister got hers from Raintree Formulas. They have it in capsule and extract.
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Zarina (Downey ) on 11/13/2015
It might be about a 30 minutes drive however; I purchased it in El Mercadito in East LA. It's on 1st Street and Lorena on the 2nd floor. You can also try Hierbas de México on Whittier Blvd and Indiana.
Where to Buy
Posted by Cindy (Usa) on 04/12/2014
is there a place to purchase chanca piedra seeds or plants in the usa?
thanks
Where to Buy
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 04/14/2014
HI Cindy...You should be able to buy the chanca piedra herb at any health shop -- its fairly well known. I would either preferably use the the water extract in a tea or drink. Avoid the tablets, capsules and alcoholic tincture forms -- they don't seem to work so well. Try and buy organic for purity's sake. You can also purchase chanca piedra online at http://www.mountainroseherbs.com or from other sites like http://www.pureformulas.com
Where to Buy
Posted by Jacqui (Devon, Uk) on 03/02/2016
Hi Bill,
I just got my delivery of Chanca piedra, and it's in 1000gm capsules! Talk about horse tablets. Is it OK that I opened the capsule, added to a glass of apple juice and then gently heated it. (It stopped the herb bits clumping together). I drank it, bits and all, and it was delicious.
Just hope I didn't do it wrong and it works - I am getting twinges in my left-side bladder and also the place where my gallbladder used to be, but nothing bad.
Where to Buy
Posted by Wyandotte (Canada) on 05/08/2022 15 posts
No, I wasn't having kidney stone issues - that I know of. But there can be gravel gathering there for some time. I think that was the case with me.
Chanca Piedra Contraindications
Posted by Nina (London) on 01/31/2014
Chanca piedra - Question to Bill
Is it safe to take chanca piedra if calcium is low?
I have been on haemodialysis for 15 years and I have secondary hyperthyroidism and my calcium is always low.
I'm on calcichew (calcium carbonate) and vitamin D but dont take it regularly . I would like to take chanca piedra but I'm scared because I read your post where you said it depletes calcium.
Chanca Piedra Contraindications
Posted by Diane (Montana) on 11/02/2015
Hepatitis B
Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 09/24/2013 2042 posts
Leon: Good news is there are a variety of treatments effective at killing Hep-c AND restoring liver function. The path you take to wellness is your choices, so here's a link?
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hep_c.html to the hep-c page for your perusal.
Back to the decision making process. You have 3 options: 1. Fallow your MD's prescription & advice, and monitor your outcome. Did you get better?? If no, 2. Try integrating the conventional medicine prescription w/ alternative remedies here https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html. or 3. Stop conventional med treatment (assuming it's not working) and adopt an alternative med protocol while monitoring results.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Lorey (California) on 05/15/2017
Sheila, try sunfood.com for Chanca Piedra.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Lacusman (Ghana) on 07/18/2022
How do I prepare herb for tea?>
Kidney Stones
Posted by Sanjay (Bangalore, India) on 12/09/2012
Hello. I'd come across knowing about 'Chanca Piedra', a natural remedy for Kidney stones. I'm one among those millions suffer from kidney stones. Recently I had expelled one thro' urine and got to know it was Calcium Oxalate.
Could you help me provide a consultation about "Chanca Piedra" to know if it would be a real permanent remedy for kidney stones. Can I know how can I get it (pills) in Bangalore, India.
Thanks in advance. Sanjay
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 04/30/2016
Bill -
Correction to my post: The size of kidney stone is 2.5 cm. Sorry! Thanks so much!
Kidney Stones
Posted by Abigail (North Carolina ) on 08/08/2017
Hi! I have been taking Chanca Piedra for about a week and today my kidney is absolutely killing me. Is this normal while taking this medicine? I'm taking it for kidney stones.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Isabelle (Cotonou, Benin) on 03/04/2011
Bill, would you have the name of these plants in french? I even searched with the botanical names you gave, but couldn't find them. Are they plants only growing in Phillipines? Do we have the equivalance in France or better, in West Africa? as many people around me suffer from chronic constipation.
Thanks again, and God bless your work.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines) on 03/04/2011
Broad Benefits
Posted by John (South Carolina Usa) on 03/18/2014
Bill, thank you for the information on your home grown herbs. Do you have a source for the seeds of the tropical herbs you grow? Thank you.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/18/2014
Hi John...Unfortunately, almost every herb that I grow is grown from local cuttings or twigs and there is no need to buy the seeds. The Chanca Piedra grows as a profuse weed in my garden which I am very thankful for. My partner does buy seeds from the local market in San Fernando to grow okra, sunflowers etc so she really has no need of an internet source. We also buy one or two herbs -- such as Aloe barbadensis and Holy Basil from the local garden centers. I try and avoid internet purchases if I can because the costs can be pretty high for shipment to the Philippines.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Debra (Australia) on 10/19/2014 63 posts
Hi Bill,
I was wondering if you would consider selling me some seeds from your Chanca Piedra plants. I'm in Australia and have searched tirelessly for weeks to find them online with no luck. I really want to grow this plant myself to make my own tinctures. Any help would be much appreciated.
Debra
Broad Benefits
Posted by Debra (Australia) on 10/21/2014 63 posts
Thanks Bill,
I know a guy who was making a tea from it which he was getting from an old guy in the next suburb but the guy died. I'm even thinking of seeing if I can get the address and got and ask the new owners if I could buy the plant of them but not sure if I can even get the address. You might be right though, they may not let it in via customs. Thank you anyway. Debra
Broad Benefits
Posted by Léa (France) on 04/27/2016
Hello Bill Can you please help me to tell how much tinospora cordifolia and chanca piedra should I take and for how long to pass one single 1.5 cm / 22 mm gall stone? My doctor ask me to remove gall bladder and I am very scared of surgery please help.
Thanks.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Nanette (Gainesville Florida) on 08/01/2017
For the decocción for constipation
What amount of leaf of vine heart? and what amount from chanca piedra?in how many cups of water? How many cups to take a day?
Broad Benefits
Posted by Micol K. (Toronto) on 06/21/2021
I have been taking Chanca Piedra tea for a few weeks, 3x/day bags, not loose, and have not seen any gallstones (which I apparently have) being flushed out. For how long does one need to drink the tea to see any results? Also, I have just bought the CP tincture, any success stories with that to dissolve/ flush out gallstones?
Thanks
Kidney Stones
Posted by Loretta Joy (Virginia) on 06/30/2024
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Years back, before I knew of CP, I had a kidney stone which became lodged and then infected. Even though I believed in nutrition & natural healing then, was in absolute agony for a night, walking the floors. My cousin insisted on calling an ambulance and I was transported to a hospital where I stayed for a full week, and they were prepared to keep me longer.
So, in more recent years, my heart sank when I felt the familiar side/back pain. After a little research I hurriedly ordered capsules of the Chanca Piedra, which has turned out to be life changing for the better! Usually, it just takes two capsules once or twice a day and by the following day at the latest I'm pretty much pain-free.
Well, this past week, i'd been under a lot of stress (loss of a beloved dog, relative coming to visit, etc.) and also was drinking a much higher amount of ACV with honey, stevia and water because it's hot here. I suddenly became nauseated, dizzy, fatigued and in a great deal of pain which kept me from sleeping. I began drinking Vitamin C powder with a little baking soda a few times a day, plus colloidal silver in case of infection.
Due to feeling so poorly physically, it took a day or more for me to suddenly recognize what the pain in my side was! It would also shift to lower back at night. I instantly began taking two capsules of the CP twice a day, which helped, but the pain at times remained almost unbearable. This had never happened before, as it ALWAYS worked at that dose quickly for me.
I came onto this website and saw a comment in which someone related taking the CP capsules every four hours until relief. So I moved up to that amount and began getting wonderful RELIEF. Today for the first time since this started, I felt almost normal the entire day. I'm tapering off of the CP, vitamin C and colloidal silver knowing I'm better.
It's impossible to express how grateful I am for people willing to share their experiences and for this special plant. I believe for whatever the reason/s, one or more extra-large kidney stones became stuck, or perhaps a bunch of them, but the Chanca Piedra came through for me.
I want to add that my neighbor suffered for six months with kidney stones a few years ago, before I knew. He was constantly in pain and going in for checks and procedures. After the last appointment (which I think involved some kind of surgery) he came home and gradually resumed activities. Suddenly, he told me he had another bout of kidney stones beginning! This time I knew and gave him some CP capsules and told him how to take them. Within a day, the neighbor said the problem was resolved!! I think this happened at least one other time and he ended up getting his own bottle.
And today, I just heard of the restaurant manager (where a friend works) breaking down in tears and having to get to the hospital because of a kidney stone/s. I'm going to try to get word to her as well! Because this is such a gentle powerful amazing remedy for humans who have gone through a kidney stone ordeal.
Liver Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 01/19/2024 2477 posts
Hi Joyce,
The following 2021 human study suggests that CP may not lower elevated liver enzymes or improve other liver function parameters at 1 gram per day :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8764976/
Here is a relevant quote from the study :
' Serum levels of liver and renal function parameters failed to demonstrate significant improvement with P. niruri. However, there was a statistically significant increase in the level of total antioxidants with P. niruri (P = 0.034) with an additional appetite stimulant activity (P = 0.03) in 4 weeks. '
However this 2021 study in humans with trauma and elevated liver enzymes showed that Silymarin at a fairly low dose of 140 mg three times per day for a total of 420 mg of silymarin per day was effective at significantly lowering some elevated liver enzymes in just 14 days while also improving antioxidant status :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8284169/
Here is a relevant study quote :
' At baseline, there were no significant differences between the silymarin and placebo group in terms of ALT, AST and ALP. AST and ALP levels were not significantly different between the two groups on day 3 (p = 0.43 and p = 0.75, respectively) but they were significantly lower on days 7, 9 and 14 in silymarin treated patients (p = 0.04, p < 0.001 and p < 0.001 for AST and p = 0.041, p = 0.027 and p < 0.001 for ALP, respectively). ALT level was also significantly lower in the silymarin group on days 9 and 14, compared to the placebo group (p < 0.001 for both days), while no significant difference was found on days 3 and 7. '
To be fair regarding CP, it is worth noting that they only used 1 gram per day whereas I use 3 grams or 3, 000 mg/day for kidney stones. Still, they got significant enzyme reduction as well as improved antioxidant status with just 140 mg of Silymarin three times per day for a total of just 420 mg of silymarin per day, in just 14 days!
Here is just one supplement that supplies 140 mg of silymarin per capsule on Amazon :
https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Thistle-Extract-Silymarin/dp/B005SHKRQM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=17V1UZ5EK73SR&keywords=silymarin+140+mg&qid=1705720888&sprefix=silymarin+140+mg,aps,129&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1
I am not recommending this just pointing out that there are some suppliers who offer milk thistle capsules containing 140 mg of silymarin as used in the study. There are other supplements that offer beneficial liver effects, but silymarin seems like it is worth having on your consideration list.
Art
Liver Issues
Posted by Joyce (London) on 01/20/2024
Dear Art, you kind thorough reply is so encouraging to me. This is the brand of milk thistle I have been taking for 3 months: INNOPURE Organic Milk Thistle Capsules - Premium Quality, High Strength 1 Capsule Provides 3800mg - Soil Association & Vegan Society Certified - 80% Silymarin (60 Capsules) UK Made https://amzn.eu/d/6Ixj05K Previously for the past 3 years I only took 140 mg Because I read your testimony previously on taking 3 gram of chanca piedra ( also read there are no serious side effects) After 2 months of flushes and increased silymarin my ALP and GGT went down 200 points But it's still 200 points higher than normal and MY ALT is now normal. By faith I will start the chandra piedra ( the brand you wrote about) and do the flushes as everything I have read about cholangitis it's intrahepatic stones blocking flow causing sludge. I'm facing my consultant in early March (that's if they are not striking again) or hospitals cancelling appointments due this new "pandemic x" Last she said was if I dont improve they want to take my gall bladder out and do another liver biopsy, which I will not give consent. I cant waste any time. I will be thrilled to submit a glorious stabilisation of healing on earth clinic to encourage others. With deepest appreciation, Joyce
Liver Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 01/20/2024 2477 posts
Hi again, Joyce,
I'm glad to hear that silymarin was beneficial for you and now higher dose chanca piedra (CP) seems like a reasonable consideration. Now you know that 1 gram per day will be insufficient for the task at hand. If its action is similar in time to its effects for kidney stones, you could potentially see improvement in the first month.
Other possible considerations are making sure your vitamin d level is well into the upper portion of the reference range which is 30 to 100 ng/ml or 75 to 250 nmol/l.
To put more pressure on reducing ALP and GGT you might consider fish oil / omega 3's at a minimum of 2 grams/day as used in the study and discussed here:
https://www.bioresearchcommunications.com/index.php/brc/article/view/43#:~:text=Conclusion: After analyzing the results, in type-2 diabetes mellitus.
Here is a relevant quote from the study :
' In this study ALP (Alkaline- Phosphatase) and GGT(gamma[1]glutamyltransferase) were reduced in diabetic patients after supplementation with omega-3 fatty acid in comparison to that of their baseline value. Again, after 12 weeks, ALP(Alkaline Phosphatase) and GGT(gamma glutamyltransferase) were decreased in diabetic patients after supplementation with omega-3 fatty acid in comparison to control group. '
Good luck and keep us posted!
Art
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Lonnette (Florida) on 03/04/2021
Hello 👋 :) thank you for your response, I will try the baking soda and Lemon, also will continue to drink a lot of water. I'm also in the middle of a juice fast.
Where to Buy
Posted by Bill (Ghana) on 07/28/2015
Joe, chanca piedra is common in Ghana. It is known in Akan as awoba ato woakyir (hope my spelling is right) in apparent reference to the seeds that hang under the leaves.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/01/2015
Hi Linda...Here is some research on Chanca Piedra which is taken from Leslie Taylor's Herbal database. She's the lady who created Raintree Herbals. All of the many research papers on chanca piedra's proven healing properties are declared at the end of the article below.
Chanca piedra
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Posted by Caz (South Africa) on 04/21/2014
Hi, please could you advise where a person can buy Chanca Piedra in South Africa?
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Posted by Lynne (Cape Town) on 06/21/2016
Hi, has anyone found out where to buy CP in South Africa?
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Posted by Wyandotte (Canada) on 08/12/2015 15 posts
I think that the alcoholic tincture form of Chanca works fine - at least for me. I had read that it is good for countless things, so I tried it for 5 days. I discharged gobs of mucusy-looking things, as well as other weird-looking "stuff", just for starters. I had read that it does indeed clean this stuff out.
Regarding kidney stones, yes, I would agree that consuming Chanca as a tea is the way to go. In general, different forms of a herb affect different parts of the body.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Leon (Fl) on 09/23/2013
I really need help with hep b.... Any one out there.... Should I stop doctor medication and start BHT and chandra piedra... Any advise plz
Hepatitis B
Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 09/23/2013
You will NEVER get me to advise going against a doctor's advice. If you choose to try BHT and or chianca piedra, I suggest doing so along with any prescribed medications...Oscar
Where to Buy
Posted by Bill (Philippines) on 05/18/2012
Regarding purchasing Chanca piedra in the Philippines, you can get it from Healthy Options stores which are normally located in SM malls throughout the Philippines. Here is a link that shows which SM stores have Healthy Options health shops in the Philippines:
http://www.healthyoptions.com.ph/stores
You can also buy the fresh chanca piedra from Quiapo Market in Manila (probably much cheaper) near Quiapo Church in Quezon City.
I'm afraid I haven't much of a clue about India. But here's what I would do. Visit an Ayurvedic or Unani healer -- they will almost certainly have chanca piedra -- and purchase chanca piedra from then. I would also think that the health shops in the Indian malls would definitely sell it too.
In both the hot lowlands of India and the Philippines, Chanca piedra grows wild as a profuse weed. So if you can recognize the plant, you can get it for free. Just make a decoction or a tea from the whole plant (including the roots) and drink this several times a day everyday. Chanca piedra has one unique feature that no other plant has -- it's flowers and seeds are situated along and under the leaf petiole. That's why CP is also called "Seed-Under-Leaf". Here is a picture of the CP plant.
http://www.stuartxchange.com/SampaSampalukan.html
Best regards, Bill :)
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Posted by Dover (Llo-ilo City, Philippines) on 03/23/2016
Hi I'm Dover, Where I can buy the Chanca Piedra tea in the philippines? I need tea not a capsule. It's truly help to prevent the hepa b virus? I need the reply please help me I'm from Ilo-ilo City.
Liver Issues
Posted by Joyce (London) on 01/23/2024
Thank you Art. I stopped my omega 3 2 grams daily as my INR has been 1.4 for 2 years also my tumeric as both are blood thinners and I was duped into thinking I would get my teeth extraction done. 3 weeks ago I restarted 1 gram and now I will add another gram as soon as my stomach can tolerate as I finished today a very successful liver/gall bladder flush which gives me a lot of nausea. My D3 Is excellent as we do not get alot of sun in London. Because of Earth Clinic I have made a great breakthrough. May I trouble you with my biggest worry as the "awake" health Internet is full of stories about graphine oxide in dental injections. Here is a Romanian American qualified doctor with a PhD in molecular science showing proof. She lives in USA.
Https://rumble.com/v3xti7w-electron-microscopy-of-comirnaty-moderna-c19-shots-dental-anestetics-and-pn.html There are no whistle blowers here, and dentists have been full of rage at me for not using fluoride toothpaste (use natural - recommended by EC). IM 69 and the liver disease took so much calcium and minerals out if my bones and teeth which suppliments cannot rectify. No I'm take taking calcium supplements or Fosomax. What are people doing as its been a 4 Yr battle with my liver, pancreas and gall bladder, then to be hit with irrepairable toxins as we can't afford chelation . Optimism and gratitude is my focus with God and EC at my side - I just would not be able to cope. Thank you for your sacrificial time, Joyce
Liver Issues
Posted by neco (Austria) on 01/27/2024
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Posted by Terry (Pennsylvania) on 09/25/2015
Amazon sells chanca piedra.
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Posted by Moses (Acca, Greater Accra Region, Ghana) on 09/26/2017
I need Chanca Piedra to buy in Ghana. Please, where can I get some to buy? Kindly let me know the location, name and the telephone number of the person to contact. Thank you
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Posted by Betsy (Illinois, Usa) on 09/05/2015
You can buy Chanca Piedra tea at Amazon.
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Posted by Susan (Midwest, Us) on 01/14/2016
Wyandotte--the "gobs of mucousy things"...had you been having kidney stone issues, or what do you think those were? I took the Stone Breaker tincture for a week and then two or three days after I quit, I passed a white gob of...something...myself. Hoping it was my stone, but it looked nothing like the stone I passed three years ago..
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Posted by Mary (Tx) on 08/15/2017
Diane, I am not Bill, and I don't know why you wish to use Chanca Piedra, but I am concerned about your extreme constipation. This is just keeping toxins circulating in your body.
Please read up on remedies for constipation. And maybe consider carrot juice for constipation and anti-cancer. But don't take it until you have gotten your bowels moving properly.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Nur (Dhaka) on 07/18/2016
Hi Frank, Good news. How you boiled and eat it? Boiled mean cooking or something else? Requested to share recipe.
Hepatitis B
Posted by Shella (Saudi Arabia, Jeddah) on 01/12/2017
I am in saudi arabia & dont no where can I buy lab grade chanca piedra capsules or powder or seeds
Hepatitis B
Posted by Josephine (Juba) on 07/18/2018
am Josephine from South Sudan am chronic Hbv and I got the web site I got the chanco the wild not planted am continue taking I just boil water and get the greens dip into the hot water and drinking it like tea am not yet gone for check up for how long will I drink and how is it suppose to be take and is the wild one Good
Hepatitis B
Posted by Deborah (Kenya) on 10/14/2018
Hey Frank, what's the local name for this plant, please?
Liver Issues
Posted by Joyce (London) on 01/19/2024
Because of having very elevated LFTs for almost a year (cholestatic liver with PBC), I have done 2 Liver and gall bladder flushes, and parasite cleanses. The levels have gone down 200 points, but they still are at least 150 points too high. I'm thinking of starting chanca piedra and still continue to have Liver and gall bladder flush. I also take TUDCA and a bile salt. Thank you for your help as it's so hard to take care of yourself and see your body deteriorate. Is it a good idea to take the chanca piedra and flushes?
Liver Issues
Posted by Joyce (London) on 01/26/2024
Hi Art, you suggested to take 3gram a day of Chanca Piedra. Tonight I took 2 -400 mg capsules on an empty stomach thinking I could aim for 2,400mg for the day 3x daily. Reading closer the description on Whole earth botanical Liver /Gall bladder support said 1 400 mg capsule equals 1 gram of chanca piedra. Should I proceed to take 1 capsule 3x daily for a month? I trust I'll be fine as I finished a very successful livergall bladder flush Tuesday morning. I look for to your reply, also any guidance on my last post saying my fearful concerns about mrna dental injections. If I refuse, no work done and my teeth have deteriorated. If I agree I will be done for with more poisons . Kindest regards, Joyce
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Posted by Diane (United States) on 08/14/2017
Hi Bill, I was diagnosed with hormone positive breast cancer 6 years ago. I am taking Anastrozole to stop hormone production. I have to take calcium the Dr. says the medication will deplete calcium. I also have multiple cysts on both my kidneys. I also have digestive issues, I can go weeks without a bowel movement and when I do I break out in cold sweat and shakes and its very painful.
Do you think it is safe to use Chanca Piedra. If so how much do you recommend. Thank you
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Posted by Mnb (Philippines) on 05/06/2012
Bill could you please tell me where I can buy chanka piedra capsule or tea or plant here in philippines, I'm from cavite and positive of hep B virus
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Posted by Mary Ann (Pasig, Philippines) on 07/16/2012
Hi , I've tried contacting Healthy Options (manila branches) and it seems they haven't heard it nor do they have stocks for these herbs. They even had a hard time understanding its name. Can you suggest where else can I find it as a tincture? Or has anyone bought it in other stores? It really means a lot. Many thanks!
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Posted by Anne (Butuan City, Agusan Del Norte) on 10/30/2012
I ordered 3 boxes of chanca piedra tea the other week I will try but I know a lot of the study shows that it really helps. Please contact this number 09162464635
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Posted by Marie (Olongapo, Philippines) on 12/20/2012
I order 3 bottles Chanca Piedra capsules in Cainta Rizal Philippines. I drink it 1 capsule 3 times a day after 5 days I feel good all my pains are all gone. I urinate a crush crystal. That's why in USA it iss called a Stone breaker. I also recommend it to my cousin who has a Hepa B. I really thank the lady who sell the chanca piedra in the philippines. Anybody who wants to buy , may contact them at 0916. 246. 46. 35, I highly recommend them. They are not SCAM.
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Posted by Big C (Quezon City) on 06/23/2014
Look at the pictures Bill already posted. It is very easy to find CP in even the smallest street markets, just look to the herb seller, I saw them and used them for green juices even though I had no idea what they were previously. These grow wild all over Philippines, no need to stress if Healthy Options does not stock it. Amazon.com always has anything as a last resort, but herbs that grow wild is just oo easy to pick up off the side of the street.
