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Arteriosclerosis
Posted by Lilykam (Qld) on 05/17/2015
Arteriosclerosis: I have blocked Iliac and femoral arteries and refuse to have Angioplasty/Stents etc.
I know Stonebreaker (chanca Piedra) dissolves kidney and gallstones and wanted to know if it will also dissolve calcium in arteries.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Andrei (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) on 05/16/2015
★★★★★
A family friend recommended Chanca Piedra to my brother as a natural way of removing kidney stones about four years ago. He took it in capsule form as it is more convenient than brewing the plant. Very effective indeed!
Kidney Stones
Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 04/03/2015
Look what I found about Tulsi leaves (Holy Basil):
"Dissolves kidney stones: The holy basil being a great diuretic and detoxifier is great for the kidneys. Tulsi helps reduce the uric acid levels in the blood (one of the main reasons for kidney stones is the presence of excess uric acid in the blood), helps cleanse the kidneys, the presence of acetic acid and other components in its essential oils helps in breaking down kidney stones and its painkiller effect helps dull down the pain of kidney stones. To relieve kidney stones one must have the juice of tulsi leaves with honey, every day for six months to help wash out the stone from the kidney.
Where to Buy
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/03/2016
Hi Jacqui...You needn't worry about overdosing on Chanca Piedra. On the Raintree Database website it states that there is no known dangerous over-dose limit for chanca piedra. I take it all the time. Today I took the cooled concentrated decoction form. It's very bitter for sure. But I felt better for it. I take it because it puts the brake on excessive calcium and sugar in the blood. It also lowers blood pressure, gets rid of stones, supports the kidneys and liver, lowers cholesterol, antiviral and does a bunch of other things for your body that's all good. Just think of Chanca piedra as a good friend. And the way you are taking it is fine, so please don't worry.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 05/01/2016
Bill,
I have to thank you so much for your help. A site like this can give so much relief, knowing that there are others in the same circumstance and knowledgeable people like you who encourage a natural approach. I will look into both suggestions.
I have to say Bill, you made a very good point about high heat - I had been taking CP liquid tincture in a very hot (to hot to drink right away) cup of water for 3 weeks with a "weak" effect at best - that may have been my mistake.
Bill, if I use the CP capsules, is it safe to use them at this 1000 mg/day dosage for several months? All I've ever gotten is sand. How do I know when to stop? These have been "silent obstructions", so until the x-ray, I don't know if I'm clear.
Thank you again -
Boy, would I love to show the doctors a clean x-ray!
Kidney Stones
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/03/2016
Hi Diane...I would just keep taking the Chanca piedra on a daiy basis until the 'sand' stops coming out. Also, CP has no known toxicity when used in large amounts over a lengthy period of time. So you're pretty safe with CP.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/09/2016
Hi Diane...Chanca piedra is well know to dissolve cysts as well as stones that contain high amounts of calcium and that's because of CP's wonderful and gentle ability to liquify calcium. Since you have such a severe problem I also think that you should at least double the dose of the Chanca piedra that you are currently using since CP is very friendly and has
no known overdose limit or side-effects. This should help to work more quickly in dissolving your serious stone problems which are such a priority with you.
If all else fails, you could perhaps try using a 1% solution -- drink one litre per day -- of gallium nitrate which is used currently by modern medicine to reduce calcium in the blood for cancer patients. But this will be much more expensive for you than using Chanca piedra. You can read all of Dr George Eby's research concerning gallium nitrate here. Eby also firmly believes that gallium nitrate is very effective at killing any calcium-loving nanobacteria that are also sometimes involved with kidney problems and kidney stones.
My own opinion is that what you are taking now -- Chanca piedra and magnesium -- should be enough to resolve your stone problems. Just give it a little time. And I also would agree with you about the tea form of CP. I think its more effective than the capsule form.
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 10/19/2014
Hi Debra...I'm afraid exporting/importing whole live plants/seeds from one country to another is extremely complicated, laden with rules, expensive and just not viable I'm afraid. It's also unlikely that Chanca piedra will ever be sold as a garden plant -- because it is a very plain plant that is essentially a weed with small flowers.
My opinion is that Chanca piedra might also grow in the jungle regions of northern Australia because chanca piedra also definitely grows in the western Pacific Rim islands and countries opposite northern Australia -- all jungle areas. So perhaps you could take a holiday sometime in these hotter Aussie jungle regions and find the plant and pick the seeds and grow them for free.
Chanca piedra grows about a meter in height. It's one single distinguishing and unique feature is that its small seeds can be found directly underneath and along the main stem petiole of the leaves of the plant. Here is an image of it to show you what I mean:
Chanca Piedra
If you use Google images search, then you can find plenty of images of Chanca piedra. And if you can adequately recognize the plant from this one unique feature that I've described, then you may well be able to recognize and find it in the jungle regions of northern Australia.
Chanca Piedra Plant Identification
Posted by Baldev (Mumbai, Maharashtra, India) on 08/18/2018 180 posts
Could someone look at this and confirm whether it is Chanca Piedra plant?
Thanks Baldev
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Caz (South Africa) on 04/21/2014
Hi, please could you advise where a person can buy Chanca Piedro in South Africa
Chanca Piedra Contraindications
Posted by Roberto Arias Hirata (Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico ) on 12/13/2015
Excelente y deja todos los carbohidratos.
EC: Translation: excellent and cut out all carbohydrates.
Chanca Piedra Contraindications
Posted by Martha (Greensboro, Nc) on 10/24/2016
I have a calcium level at 11.1, blood pressure that's always above 160/75, primary hyper parathyroid, nothing seems to lower my blood pressure but l-arginine and it only lowers it for a couple of hours. Is chanca piedra safe for me to take? I also have high chelosterol levels total in the 400's. What do you recommend for me. Thank you Martha
Chanca Piedra Contraindications
Posted by Laurie (Rochester Hills, Mi) on 01/08/2017
Martha...
This is not a sales pitch! I had high calcium and pth (parathyroid hormone)...my docs said we'd "keep an eye on it"...for 15 years. I did some research and found a parathyroid clinic. I asked my endocrinologist if the Norman Parathyroid Clinic was legit, and she told me if my insurance covered any portion, that I should go to Tampa to have the surgery to remove the diseased parathyroid gland/tumor...that the docs at the Norman Parathyroid Clinic (it's located in Tampa General Hospital) were the best...that's all they do, all day, every day...that's why the surgery there is 20 minutes. My scar is less than 1 inch long and is almost invisible. It sounds crazy that I flew from MI to FL for a 20 minute outpatient surgery, but I'm so glad I did. I'm also not one to comment online, but saw your comment and had to reach out. Good luck!!
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines) on 03/04/2011
Broad Benefits
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/18/2014
Hi John...Unfortunately, almost every herb that I grow is grown from local cuttings or twigs and there is no need to buy the seeds. The Chanca Piedra grows as a profuse weed in my garden which I am very thankful for. My partner does buy seeds from the local market in San Fernando to grow okra, sunflowers etc so she really has no need of an internet source. We also buy one or two herbs -- such as Aloe barbadensis and Holy Basil from the local garden centers. I try and avoid internet purchases if I can because the costs can be pretty high for shipment to the Philippines.
Kidney Stones, High Blood Pressure
Posted by Charity (faithville, Us) on 08/13/2021
Yes, this would be helpful if it included the weight of the person, their history, their fitness level and age, the family they grew up in and how the dynamics worked, the town they lived in, the water supply and air quality, and then the person's medical history. example would be downwind of a power plant. Thyroid issues ect. What type of education did they get, Who programmed their thoughts? What religion did they ingest? Is healing free or do they have to get it by works or has it been done away with and sickness is for training purposes? What is their regular diet like and how much do they exercise daily /weekly and what type of spouse/co workers do they have? How many kids are they trying to manage and raise into upscale citizens? Believe me, one challenging kid can cause all your health problems. I watch supernanny and AML on drug addicts.
As far as grouches go, I could say I have topped the list over the years with a constant stomach ache, pain in the spine, pelvic pain and dental pain and emotional trauma and split personality with migraines. So please spell out the above so we can help you to the best of our knowledge. I have overcome the above. Sometimes the problem is the thing keeping us from the real hurt, as a lovely distraction.The more the pain, the better the distraction. If your back hurts get some pliers and squeeze your finger and your back will be hardly noticeable. : ) . Not trying to step on your toes but everyone is trying to post insights, not cures. We are all putting out fires. It still far exceeds the doctor who is treating symptoms so you will keep coming back to pay his light bill. By the way. Love your post, charity
P.s. I figured out how placebos work.....as you believe you receive
Where to Buy
Posted by Stacy (Ghana) on 09/26/2017
Chanca piedra grows naturally in Ghana, is a common weed and known locally as stone breaker or "at the back" in English & in Twi it's called Awo ba agu nakyi. You can check with Bill of Philippines posting as he has detailed pictures of Chanca piedra
Arteriosclerosis
Posted by Kathleen (Virginia) on 01/20/2017
I would prefer Myrrh capsules. I see where people take 2-3 caps 3 times per day. That is too many for me to take. Is it possible to take less? Also is it hard on the stomach?
Kidney Stones
Posted by Bernadine (Gloucester, Ma) on 03/31/2015
★★★★★BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
Hi, I find chandra piedra works very well for my phosphorus stone problem, but it interferes with my sleep so I have to take a very low dose for short spurts, then after being off try again. It has calmed my renal system totally doing that. Does anyone know if chandra piedra helps get your parathyroids to start producing hormone again?
I have both hyperthyroid and hyperparathyroid issues and then at times I fluctuate to hypo. I also have Hashimotos. With this autoimmunity going on it appears that it and much more get past the brain barrier for me and cause the insonmia. Have tried everything and am working on healing my leaky gut, but I am a thin, fit, woman already with alkaline urine ph, and I don't have the associated gut symptoms. I suspect chemical and or heavy metal toxicity. I take lots of magnesium chloride and don't think it effects my sleep.
Any advice?
Liver Issues
Posted by Art (California) on 01/26/2024 2771 posts
Hi Joyce,
Start at their recommended dose. The dose I use is for kidney stones and that may be too much for your purpose. I am not recommending the dose I use for your purpose, just saying it is what has worked for me for kidney stones. I have not used CP for your health issue, so I don't know the effective dose to use.
Art
Gout
Posted by Ong3 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) on 10/02/2021
★★★★★
Chanca piedra is a better remedy for gout. I have tried ACV, tart cherry juice and some others but I find chanca piedra most effective. I mixed a teaspoon of chanca piedra powder in a glass of warm water and drink the mixture. You should feel the pain lessen in a few hours. Twice a day if you are already suffering from gout. The mixture is quite bitter or take chanca piedra in capsule form, without the bitterness.
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by HisJewel (United States) on 04/17/2019
Hi again Jill D. I decided to go ahead and look up sided effects of Chanca Piedra. I found out there are two types of Chanca Piedra: Phyllanthus niruri and Phyllanthus amarus.
The first mention Phyilanthus niruri is said to be safe non toxic with few side effects. The second mentioned Phyilanthus and in High doses could be toxic and may be harmful to kidneys.. I tried it out Chanca Piedra about February 2019, the company I ordered from does not say what type of Chanca Piedra it is, it just says organic and says to take 1000mg once a day. Which proved too strong for me.
Hisjewel.
Where to Buy - Kenya
Posted by Jane (Nairobi) on 11/02/2016
Re: Chanca Piedra - Where can I get this plant in Kenya?
Where to Buy - Kenya
Posted by Rose (Mombasa) on 11/07/2016
Where to buy chanca piedra in mombasa?
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Linda (Dallas, Texas) on 05/01/2015
Chanca Piedra for removing calciums deposits and lowering high blood pressure.
I had ordered some and after taking a dropper full, I became light headed, and had a headache. I also read an article that said after 10 days, blood pressure was not lowered after using chanca Piedra.
Can you give me a location of studies of chanca piedra and testimonies of lowering blood pressure and removing calcium deposits? thanks. Linda
Kidney Stones
Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 04/01/2015
Well, it is a uterine relaxant and I read that the Amazonian use high dosages of it to induce abortion. Maybe you could try Apple Cider Vinegar or magnesium for the kidney stones? Because the stones are made of calcium, supporting with magnesium, which is antagonistic to it, might be a good idea.
Where to Buy - India
Posted by Rintu (Bangalore, India) on 12/17/2014
Please let me know the store location in Bangalore , I am looking for Stone breaker or chanca piedra powder or tablet. Please let me know or suggest to me where can I get this.
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Tebogo (South Africa) on 07/30/2014
Hi, please advise if you have a store in south arica. please provide the address if you have a store in gauteng.
Where to Buy - South Africa
Posted by Lebohang (Johannesburg ) on 09/02/2016
Hi..where can I buy chanca piedra in South Africa?
Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Anicka (Canada) on 06/04/2014
I need chanca piedra liquid 4oz ASAP. do you sell it . how much? How long for shipping? I live in Nelson British Columbia Canada. I went on Amazon.com and cannot be shipped before June 17-25 estimate.....so more that 15 days.
Waiting in pain
Anicka
EC: Anicka, we don't sell chanca piedra. If you google 'chanca piedra canada' you will find sources within Canada who may be able to get it to you quickly. Good luck!
Where to Buy - Canada
Posted by Shawn (Ottawa) on 07/09/2016
Here in Canada you can get from well.ca - they ship very fast. I got mine the next day if you order before 10am EST
Hepatitis B
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 07/19/2022
Hi Lacusman in Ghana,
Chanca Piedra Tea (Sometimes known as "Stone-Breaker" Tea)
Preparation: Add 4 level teaspoons of Chanca Piedra to 5 cups of boiling water. Reduce the heat and allow it to simmer for between 15 to 20 minutes. When cool, you strain the tea and discard the leaves. This will make 4 cups of tea. Serve hot or cold. Store in a refrigerator in a glass container (with a lid on) for up to a week. This may save you some prep. time.
Chanca Piedra Tea is claimed to support the health of the kidneys, liver, gall bladder, bladder and pancreas. It is also said to promote healthy fat digestion.
For Urgent and Immediate use take one cup of tea 3 - 4 times per day for liver-gall bladder support and 6 - 8 times per day for kidney-bladder support on an EMPTY stomach (important) for up to one month or as directed by your health care professional.
For a Maintenance Dosage you take one cup of tea once or twice daily on an empty stomach for 5 or 6 days per week.
Wishing you well on your recovery journey
Cheers from Down Under
Calcium Buildup
Posted by Sue (Fairfax, Va Usa) on 02/15/2013
Thank you so much, Bill. While I rarely consume vegetable oil (I use coconut oil) and am already taking many of the supplements you mention (kelp tablets, Iodoral, magnesium, fish oil, vitamin D, K2 and minerals including boron and silica have been part of my regimen for years), obviously it's not working. What you say about calcium/magnesium proportions makes a lot of sense, as well as the chemical forms. I will try the things you suggest, and I really appreciate your time and thoughts! -- Sue
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 04/30/2016
Hi Bill,
I have just been diagnosed with a 2.5mm kidney stone which was too dense to respond to laser lithotripsy. I believe my doctor wants to go the kidney surgery route next which would be a nightmare for me! I may be able to put it off for a few months, but I am on borrowed time. I read in your previous posts that "tea" is your preferred method - is this just putting a powder in hot water or letting the leaves soak for a few minutes, then straining? I have also bought the "liquid herbal extract" - is this the water extract you referred to? I need something that works quickly and effectively (you should have seen the look on the doctor's face when I referenced CP). I appreciate any tips you can give me - I am new at this thing. Thanks.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/09/2016
Hi Bill...It turns out that the kidney stones I have (incl. the 2.5 cm.) are uric acid/calcium. I am continuing on the CP capsules and have added 240 mg/day magnesium (as amino acid chelate) as well as doctor's prescription of potassium citrate (15 meq). The Dr.says I will never dissolve these stones and wants to operate through my back and retrieve them. Will the chanca piedra still work on these types of stones? I will continue the CP regimen for as long as I have to if it means avoiding this surgery. I am also going to start the tea form if it is more potent. Thank you so much.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Diane (New Jersey) on 06/14/2016
Bill, thank you so much for your prompt response -
2 more questions:
Are there any dietary restrictions/limitations during this regimen (dairy, calcium, oxalates, purines)?
Can the tea form of chanca piedra also be taken daily for a longer duration(months)?
Your input is much appreciated - thank you.
Kidney Stones
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/09/2017
Abigail, I would stop taking it until the pain stops. Then you might start again but in a much lower dose.
Kidney Stones
Posted by leole (valentine, ne) on 01/26/2024
★★★★★
I have used chanca piedra in capsule form for 5 years and have not had a stone since. They used to occur about one time per year.
Gout
Posted by Art (California) on 11/15/2022
Joseph,
If the chanca piedra does not work out for you, I can offer another suggestion with at least one study to support its effective use for gout.
Art
Uterine Polyps
Posted by HisJewel (USA) on 02/25/2020
★★★★★
I see that I was not clear in the amount of Chanca Piedra that I took. The directions said to take two capsules once a day. Each capsule is 900mg. In April 2019, I took two 900mg capsules, that equaled to 1800mg. In January 2020, I tried them again, this time I took one capsule that is 900mg with No problems. Directions on my supplement bottle did not say whether to take with or without food. I generally take mine with, or after breakfast. HisJewel
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Sheilaann (Long Beach, Ca) on 06/17/2018
Just signed up for the site after reading some great information. My question is what brand name of chanca piedra is best? I have been reading about so many benefits. People are talking about dosage all day long, but no brand names. And when there is anything, the links are so old they are non-existent. The only one I found was Swanson. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! If we can't list brand names, then please state as such😄
Where to Buy: USA
Posted by Teena (Melbourne, Australia) on 06/18/2018 233 posts
Sheilaann, chanca piedra is a herb, search for the organic dried herb, this is best. Mine I bought as a tea but the only ingredient is chanca piedra in loose, dried form. 5 cups a day to break stones. Best to you
Osteoporosis
Posted by Janie (Magnolia, Texas) on 09/16/2017
Bill, I also have osteoporosis in my right hip and I have been put on Calcium and vitamin D but my blood test show my calcium is normal. My Vitamin D and magnesium were also within normal range. My Dhea, Estradiol, Progesterone and Protein were low. I am taking a supplement which has calcium algae, Boron, Magnesium and Vitamin D along with vitamin k2 and another supplement of 7 Keto DHEA. But I do have calcium deposits noted on my aortic valve which causes a mild stenosis. Would I be able to take the chanca piedra and expect to see this clear up?
Where to Buy: Africa
Posted by Leshan Sakaya (Kenya) on 01/30/2017
How can I access this product in Kenya. chanca Piedra
Chanca Piedra Side Effects
Posted by Bee (New York) on 05/01/2015
Linda.. I am not sure why that happened to you but for me I have been drinking three cups of chanca piedra tea every few days and I am expelling painful gallstones and a bunch of things..I am feeling this is amazing and I am going to keep doing it until my pain is gone.....
The only thing I can think of is maybe you are getting rid of toxins and you had this reaction. I don't know but for me its working well... and I do have high blood pressure but I wasn't using it for that.. maybe an extra bonus..
