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Listerine
Posted by Cat (Austin, Tx) on 10/28/2016
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My scalp was badly embedded with an infection/fungus with extreme itching and hair loss. VCO & ACV did not help. What finally worked after trying so many products was non-deodorized mouthwash - cheap lysterine. From the first wash -- less itching. After daily use for a week, the infection and itching was gone and my hair started filling in where it had thinned. I applied to hair and scalp, scrubbed and massaged, waited 15 minutes, then thoroughly rinsed. No shampoos or conditioners required. It worked so well that this cleaning method is all I use and only once a week. I was hesitant at first but realized I occasionally use mouthwash in my mouth! As long as it beautifully works and I have no side effects, I'll continue using this cleaning method.
Borax
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 08/15/2017
DENISE,,,,,,, Get you a plastic jar add 20 mule team borax until 1/2 full. Add water. The jar will be saturated. Pour on your hair after washing your hair and then shower. When done, rinse your hair. Do not wash again. Keep adding water to the jar until there is no borax in the bottom after you shake. Start over. Hey girl, it's just that simple. Keep doing this until your problem is solved or you know this ain't gonna help. I have been doing this for many, many years. The only scalp problem I have is due to the sun and Borax will not solve that problem. It should take care of dandruff or a fungus.
Wish you well. =====ORH====
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Om (Hope, Bc Canada) on 02/05/2015
At first I would use a good application with coconut oil with about ten drops of clove essential oil for medical purposes. If there is itching afterwards, it could be parasites. Keep on for a few hours or as is convenient. Keep in mind, as with coconut oil always, it is a cooling oil and in cold weather a cover for the head is necessary. Repeats as often as convenient.
Borax is very good but oiling afterwards is necessary.
For shampoo, Dr. Bronner's pure kastile shampoo with a selection of essential oils is very good. I have used it for many years also for my pets .Available in health stores.
Making a wash from soap berries because it contains anti bacterials and is very mild but effective (see online).
Chamomile infusion. Soak a cloth and keep on for ten minutes. Very healing and soothing.
Internally Diatomaceous Earth with Bentonite clay but also externally. It has a lot of Silica for hair/nail/bones. It draws out toxins. I was surprised that my nails grew stronger and longer after only about four days of one tblsp. daily in a large glass of water.
You can find DE/Bentonite in feed stores or online. These remedies don't break the bank and they do work. Namaste, Om
Burning Scalp and Hair Loss Remedies
Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 05/24/2013
After I read your post, I went and did a lot of reading. Found some interesting stuff. Most people lose 100 hairs a day on a normal day. Vitamin D affects hair either from too much or too little the hair falls out. Magnesium and other minerals affect vitamin D.
Low magnesium affects homones, and hormones affect hair. Thyroid affects hair and most thyroid tests do not accurately assess a problem.
Stress wipes out magnesium and hair loss episodes usually happen 4 months after stressful events, surgery , drugs, trauma, too much of one supplemental vitamin , mineral, herb... Birth control pills
Low progesterone causes hair loss because other hormones get out of balance. Hormones in animal products we eat, cause estrogen to dominate and progesterone to be low in comparison.
Too tight of hair doo or curlers or pony tail pulled too tight, tight braids, or fungal infection or parasites or allergy to a product.
I hope you know down deep which thing it would most likely be from so you can get new hair.
My heart goes out to you... Love, Joy
Borax
Posted by Amy (Bangalore, India) on 02/09/2013
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Hi, I am having a scalp problem and hair fall from past 6 year. I have tried all medicated shampoo and steriod etc but still didn't get the scalp fungus cured. Recently, I found some article about borax. So, I tried to apply it on scalp by mixing it with water or curd. It relieved me from itching a bit but my scalp infection is not cured and I can still see thick scales coming out, itchness and hair fall. Please help me as I am really worried what should I do further :-(
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Shell (Miami) on 02/13/2014
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I use apple cider vinegar for my hair to avoid infections and dandruff. Make sure to use it with 50% water. After a few days no more scalp build or itchy scalp.
Coconut Oil
Posted by Ali (Sumter, Sc) on 08/18/2010
I'm searching for an exact measurement of a solution to cure my scalp infection/odor. It started after leaving coconut oil on my scalp overnight which seemed to have fueled a fungus that may have already been present. I'm currently taking "fungal defense" by garden of life (2 pills, 3x daily), and drink 3 large glasses of lemon water(one fresh squeezed lemon in 24 oz of water). I've cut sugar and fruit to almost non-existent in my diet. An exact measurement of a solution to cure this scalp odor, itching, redness, and hairloss is needed. Hairloss is an overall even thinning. If you could include how much water(not "parts"), how often to apply, how long and how often to leave on scalp, and exactly how to apply (I have long curly hair) would be greatly appreciated. This scalp odor has greatly affected me and is beginning to be a source of depression. Please HELP! Thank you!
Citronella Oil
Posted by Atang (Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa) on 05/03/2010
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I tried the coconut oil for scalp odor and it just seemed to make it worse. I've been suffering since January, and would describe the smell as very bad. I would wash my hair in the morning and 3 hours later it already stunk! by the end of the day it was unbearable. I tried the following: coconut oil, pumpkin seed oil, ACV, medicated shampoo, all sorts of hair products, rubbing MSM in my scalp (for sulphur), hydrogen peroxide, yoghurt, white vinegar, borax. Finally in the past few weeks I've been making progess- I bought grapefruit seed extract and bergamot essence oil. this helped alot but not 100%. I then bought CITRONELLA oil at the pharmacy- success! I think it should also be available at health stores in the oil/essences section. Rub it in every night for 3 nights (do it over the weekend or when you won't be going out bcos it smells quite strong, not bad just strong). wash it out in the morning. This did the trick. I was able to go a week without washing my hair and there still was ZERO odor!! hope this helps someone because this smelly scalp is very debilitating socially.
Dietary Changes
Posted by Coregon (Medford, Or) on 11/03/2010
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My friend's 7 year old daughter had smelly scalp and she tried everything (shampoos, etc.), but nothing helped. I suggested she take her to my acupuncturist. She did and the acupuncturist tested her daughter for food allergy and determined it was MILK that was causing the scalp odor. She took her daughter off dairy and within a week all odor was gone and didn't return.
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Kent (Lyndonville, Vermont) on 11/08/2010
Parts - think about it as equal portions. 1 tablespoon is a part. So the 1 part, 1 part, 10 parts would look like 1 tablespoon of ACV, 1 tablespoon of hydrogren peroxide and 10 tablespoons of water. Bigger jug? 1/4 cup is a part. So the 1 part, 1 part, 10 parts would look like 1/4 cup of ACV, 1/4 cup of hydrogren peroxide and 10 quarter cups (or 2 1/2 cups) of water.
Borax
Posted by rhonda (seattle) on 12/03/2007
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I learned about borax on curezone for itchy painful scalp and decided to try it. Someone else on this site has mentioned how nice her hair is as a result of using the borax. I have NEVER used a hair product- a shampoo or a conditioner that has equalled the lustruous results I have achieved with borax. My hair was dry and straw like now it feels soft and silky and very manageable. The rats nest is gone! I can now comb and brush my hair again without fear of tearing my hair out. If for no other reason, I think everyone should abondon their shampoo and start using borax to wash the hair. As for my scalp? I was pretty desperate the day I tried the borax. My scalp was very sore, there was an inflamed (swollen) ridge on my part and there were tiny bumps like zits forming. I have a theory that hair pullers are reacting to whatever it is that causes these symptoms I experience. I started messing with my hair when I started experiencing all of the above. anyway. after using the borax, pain and itching subsided. bumps scabbed over that same day. soooo gentle. Have you noticed that if you get it in your eyes, it does not burn? I remember when I was a kid, I had some sort of eye infection so I went to the doc and he said I had pink eye and prescribed boric acid ointment. so of course it would be gentle to the eye. I am anxious to try it internally for some of the other issues I have read here on the site.(arthritis, tmj, fibromyalgia).
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Tasha (IL) on 11/09/2006
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I'm late writing my feedback, but it may benefit someone especially for African American children.
On June 3, 2006, after my son's haircut, I noticed my son had a small, round, white patch in the middle of his scalp. Curious, I took note of this on my calendar to keep a close eye on it.
As the weeks go by, the patch had spread to at least 3 or 4 more patches with hair loss. Not completely bald patches. I immediately confirmed this HAD to be ringworm in the scalp.
How could this happen when I keep the kids scalp and body clean with bathings? My kids like to play in the dirt outside and very well could have transferred hand to scalp during play. I don't know for sure...just a guess. By June 30th, I began Ted's recommedation of ACV (with the Mother) and Hydrogen Peroxide Shampoo along with the Tea Tree Oil and Lavender mixture.
I followed his recipe exactly. I would give my son (3years old) his bath and "shampoo" or saturate his hair with the ACV & Peroxide. Let it sit on his hair and scalp while I bathe him. After rinsing the soap off his body, I would rinse out the ACV & Peroxide from his hair.
My mixture: 4 drops of Tea Tree Oil, 1 drop of Lavender Oil diluted in 1 tablespoon of Sweet Almond Oil. I used the Sweet Almond Oil because it absorbs and carries the essential oils well.
After drying him off, I immediately applied the Tea Tree Oil and Lavender mixture to his ENTIRE scalp (he had a low hair cut...much easier). I did make sure his hair and scalp was coated. I applied a Doo Rag (a scarf with 2 tails) and wrapped his head up. The tails help secure the base of the Doo Rag on his head. He wore the Doo Rag and Oil Mixture over night. I did not wash it out in the morning nor did I reapply the oil mixture during the day.
I applied this oil mixture every night at bath time for 6 weeks. However, I did not apply the ACV & Hydrogen Peroxide shampoo everyday. For some reason, after the second day, my son would literally scream "murder" at the sight of the ACV & Peroxide. I would calmly refer to it as water but he did not want that "water" near him. I can't confirm if it burned his scalp or not. So, I have no clue as to if it burns. Oh, and I made sure not to get it in his eyes. Therefore, I shampooed with regular shampoo and followed with the oil mixture.
At the end of the 6 weeks, his hair had grown back in with no more white patches or hair loss. It is has been several months now and everything is still clear.
BTW, my son knew something wasn't right because the other children did not have to wear the Doo Rag. Try to be comforting and reassuring during this difficult time with small children. The Doo Rag sort of acts as a protective measure from spreading (to the family) so you don't want the child to take it off due to embarrassment or shame. The child can wear it during the day if he/she is a stay at home child like mine. Our family made him feel comfortable about the Doo Rag. We took pictures of him with his "shades" on and just had fun his first night. This way, you don't have to fight or have an unhappy child every night for 6 weeks. BTW, I saw an oil recipe on a different website that is identical to Ted's except the lady recommed using the oil mixture 3x's a day. For those who work during the day or if the child is in school, this may not seem ideal although I believe it would work. Nevertheless, Ted's overnight treatment was less work and with proven results.
I hope this helps someone.
Lugol's Iodine and Borax Spray
Posted by Missm (Ny) on 07/16/2020
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This helped me rid my scalp of the itchy, peeling condition.
You'll need:
- 2 ounce sprayer bottle
- 1 ounce distilled water
- .75 ounce 70/30 alcohol. Having this amount alcohol will keep this self-preserved!
- 8 drops Lugol's Iodine
- 1/8 tsp borax, this is equivalent of a tiny pinch
Allow solution to sit and dilute the borax or it will clog sprayer.
Note: You can use without borax.
Use several times a day. If you have demodex, spray as soon as you feel a tickle.
This may hurt on affected area, but as they dry up and flake off this will no longer happen. Benefits easy to use, less discoloration than using full strength iodine.
Use on body parts without having iodine stain, knees, feet etc.
Do not add any other oils, or herbs to this - it will make it hard to preserve and you can make the spray bacteria soup.
Dietary Changes
Posted by Diane (Edgewater, Md) on 09/26/2015
OMGoodness...After reading your story I have hope that what has been going on with me and my scalp is something that can possibly be cured or controlled. I started having issues with my scalp and then my hair...which I was proud to say, were the most beautiful locks and I never realized that what has happened to my hair , was possible . I am 49 years old and seems like out of nowhere I started getti g random pus pockets or blisters on my scalp . They didnt so much bother me other than they were very weepy once it popped and then my hair started feeling like I had put glue in it...kinda like the old time rubber cement from back in the day. Then my hair started falling out by the handfulls at my temples and top and crown of my head, but I think the strangest thing of all for me was the amount of gray hair I started to have...literally over a month or so time and it is very weird hair .In the beginning it was thick gray long hairs that were as strong as fish line and then it started to change into spiderweb looking hair as one peice would come out ...it would just keep coming and coming as if I had 3 feet of this silvery white spiderweb mess...and then there were the bald spots from losing it . I am sorry for rambling but I havent felt hopeful in so long thatI had pretty much just accepted that I was going bald and wither away!!!!! Please tell me what if anything has changed and if u found out what it is and what it is called . And thank you so much for posting, Diane
Borax
Posted by Poppy (Alabama) on 04/03/2017
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You can do it like that. I had scalp sores so tried borax. My recipe was borax in water to make a paste, then add dish liquid. Apply to hair, lather it up, and let it sit for about 5 minutes. That helped a lot, but now I do this: stir borax into water, no need to measure because you want to dissolve as much as you can. Then you let the solid borax that cannot dissolve settle onto the bottom. Pour off the borax-saturated water, add a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar and a tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide and mix. Apply to your head, being careful not to let it drip into your eyes. I do this while standing in the shower and just keep my head out of the water. I leave it on long enough to get the rest of me clean, so 5-10 minutes, and then rinse.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Jeanne (Colorado, Usa) on 11/19/2018
If "they" are not sure you have candida, what do they base their assessment on? I used to work for a naturopathic physician in NYC. Some of his clients would come after going through "mainstream" medical exams. Blood tests did not show candida. BUT these patients had POCKETS of the candida that did not show up in blood stream. When those were addressed, patients healed. - They all seemed to get some periods of detox. The way we explained it to them was simple:
"If you are feeling great, and next morning feel lousy like catching the cold, it is detoxing. Why? Because your body was feeling strong, looked around and said- let's get some clean up done. Otherwise getting sick feels like coming DOWN with something. Hop into Epsom salt and baking soda bath - about 1 cup total, and you'll be good tomorrow." It was so true . Next day we got calls that the patient was feeling good again - and of course till the next detox. Usually one a week was what we heard, and saw.
Burning Scalp and Hair Loss Remedies
Posted by Penelope (Alameda, Ca, Usa) on 05/21/2013
I'm a 30 year old woman with no kids no history of scalp or hair issues and no female hair loss in my large family. For the past 4 months my hair has been falling out (diffused) and then the last month my scalp has become red, inflamed and feels hot and burning. It doesn't itch much but will burn on and off all day long. The hair fall greatly increased when the burning and redness started. I have no flaking or bumps but a few areas of small flat red spots and areas where the scalp is entirely red. It doesn't hurt to massage the scalp but hurts to move my hair- which I don't understand. The reddest areas are just below the top of the back of scalp and on the sides of my head is worst for redness and hairloss. If I wash my hair with anything other than shampoo that has pyrithione zinc the burning gets pretty severe. I tried an anti- fungal shampoo and a tea tree oil shampoo-both seemed to make the burning worse especially the anti -fungal. I've tried going without any hair products and didn't seem to make any difference. I tried rinsing my hair with apple cider vinegar which helps temporarily but the burning always comes back within about 12 hours. I also made a paste of baking soda and applied to the scalp - it didn't seem to help and dried my scalp and hair horribly. I've been to my doctor who did bloodwork and everything came back as normal. I don't know what to do and am scared I won't have any hair left soon as my hair started coming out in handfuls within the last couple of days. Any idea what this is or how to treat it???
Burning Scalp and Hair Loss Remedies
Posted by Lori (In, Usa) on 05/21/2013
My head is similar to yours but maybe not quite as severe. I have lost nearly 2/3 of my hair and my scalp burns and aches and it hurts to wear hair clips or pull my hair up. Four days ago I started taking 1 TBS organic Apple Cider Vinegar and also 1 TBS blackstrap molasses. I lost only a FEW hairs in the shower today!!! I am so thankful. Try it! You have nothing to lose! Take the supplements in any way you can get them down. I add vinegar to cold water then chase with molasses in vanilla coconut milk, but take them how you want to, as long as you take 1 TBS of each! Hope you have great luck with it.
White Vinegar Rinse
Posted by Coregon (Medford, Or) on 11/03/2010
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Ingram,
I had the same problem with scalp for years. I know what you mean, it is embarrassing. I wore hats everyday. I couldn't even go have my hair professionally cut, I was so embarrassed. (although a hairdresser told me that she sees it a lot.. So I don't think we are alone in this) I have a theory that it is initially caused from our commercial shampoos, hairsprays, hair dyes and poor diet. Regardless, I think I've finally found the solution.. After trying EVERYTHING. I started using a natural shampoo jason with sulfur in it. Started noticing good results, but still getting break outs here and there on scalp.
One night I had a blemish on my chin and had no apple cider vinegar, so I used 50/50 white distilled vinegar and water (filtered or distilled). Within an hour the blemish dried up and there was NO sign of it left behind on my chin (and I'd tried everything for weeks on this spot, so you would expect at least a scar left behind.. Nothing! ) So I thought, let's try this on the scalp problems. I used a q-tip and used the same 50/50 solution. The next day.. They were all 95% gone! After a 2nd application, they disappeared altogether. Now I'm going to try using this white vinegar mix as a final rinse in the shower (faster than q-tip). NOTE: I've used apple cider vinegar rinse for months in the shower, with little effect, BUT the white vinegar worked for some reason. * Be sure to wash your towel and pillowcases to prevent this recurring.
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Diane (Montgomery, Alabama) on 03/19/2010
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Double YEA...I have had itchy scalp with welts and inner ear canal itch for over a year. Found this site yesterday and feel really blessed. I did the Apple Cider Vineger and peroxide water (1,1,10). I washed my hair in the mixture this morning at 6am. It is 2pm now and I have not itched all, scalp or ears. I bought oils today to start the OP tonight. Thanks so much!
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Tony (Toronto, Canada) on 05/28/2009
Ted's peroxide remedy (1 part ACV, 1 part Hydrogen Peroxide with 10 parts water) states to leave on for 1 minute not overnight. Maybe it shouldn't have been left on that long and that is why your hair is falling out.
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Ted
Lisa: Happy to hear of the news. A longer term remedy of acv baking soda alkalizing to raise the body's immune system, some weekly magnesium (magnesium citrate) and zinc (zinc gluconate) supplements and perhaps if possible a molybdenum (sodium molybdate) should prevent the condition from coming back again.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Laila (Virginia, Ashburn) on 08/03/2022
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I have same problem, I used it last night, I feel better already. I'm glad you're recovering my friend!
Aloe Vera + Borax
Posted by Pamela (Charente/France) on 01/05/2022
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Hallo,
In perusing your excellent site, I came across a remedy for an itchy scalp, using a mixture of Borax & Aloe Vera.
But the instructions are not clear. It states:-
"3Tb borax with 1 liter of aloe Vera(100%) Massage into affected areas after shower and at bed."
Do I massage this mixture into the scalp - leave for ?? time - then shower it off plus ? massage more onto scalp,
then leave on for the night.???????
I would be most grateful for the definite & clear instructions as I have the ingredients at the ready & was hoping to start the treatment as soon as possible.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Turpentine
Posted by Namaw (Bama) on 10/27/2016
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I, too, get eruptions on my scalp. I think it's fungus. I've been using turpentine on it. I usually dip a q tip into the turp and apply it to the spots but, sometimes, I can feel a spot coming on and then I smear it around. I had a fungus on my neck as a child (looked like I had a dirty neck) and it eventually went away on its own (my mom wouldn't apply the cream and I was only like 8 yrs old). Anyway, I see great results from the turp after several days of doing this. I put it on when I first get up and then, an hour or so later, take my shower and shampoo.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 10/27/2016
Patricia, try to find out what your body doesn't like and is trying to expel. Topical stuff is usually only temporary.
Tea Tree Oil
Posted by Amber (Pa) on 08/07/2016
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About 2 weeks ago I noticed 3 different knots or small mats forming in my hair, they were about the size of a quarter. I didnt think much of it because my hair is very long to my butt, and has always gotten tangled easily. I had also been sleeping alot lately and not brushing my hair after showers. Well I a friend offered to brush out the knots because she is a hairdresser. So she worked on my hair for 4 hrs one night, and didnt get out a single knot, as a matter of fact, they all got BIGGER, and hard, they formed actual shapes, one was shaped and sized exactly like a computer mouse, one was perfectly circle and flat about the size of a 50cent pc, and the third was perfectly round like a ball. The amount of hair in each knot grew, like it was attaching itself to all the hairs. They got so big and firm that I couldn't even push a safety pin into one, not even a mm in! I scoured the internet along with my friends and family for 3 days trying to find anything that even came close to what I had, we couldn't find anything because these were no normal knots.
I came across and discovered It was from an EXTREMELY rare little known condition called Plica Polonica (I suggest anyone suffering from weird hair conditions, like sticky/tacky/dark slimy-like sections of hair, anywhere on the hair, look up this condition). Doctors still know very little about the cause and there is no cure or remedy except to cut the masses of hair off. But I suspected all along this condition is actually due to a fungal or bacterial growth. I tried everything known to man to get the knots out including wearing an entire giant jar of mayo on my head for 18 hours! I tried vinager, listerine, dawn, olive oil, hot oil, everything! I ended up cutting off the hair after a week of failed attempts to even remotely loosen them. But ever since I cut them all off 2 days ago, I have been getting these big pimple like bumps all over my head.
So I tried tea tree oil directly on the bumps, and its working! I don't know what the bumps are, but I know they have something to do with the scalp hair condition Plica Polonica, and the Tea Tree oil is killing it. If you have very knotty sections of hair, or you feel something kinda sticky in your hair, I suggest doing Tea Tree oil all over your scalp. I think if I would have paid more attention to the signs and treated my hair and scalp earlier, it never would have developed into Plica Plonica.
Tea Tree Oil
Posted by Marnie (Madera, Ca) on 02/07/2018
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Hi Shanti,
Borax (2O Mule Team) from the laundry aisle is the first thing I would try. It's safe and effective. It's anti-fungal. It's great for your skin. I would get some pure Castile soap (such as Dr Bronners). Get the soap lathered all over your scalp. Then add a handful of borax on top of your head and work it throughout your entire scalp. Massage it in and let it sit for a while. Rinse. If you're going to use conditioner, then only apply it to your hair and not your scalp. This should really help relieve the itch and get your hair nice a clean.
Other great things to try-
- Tea tree essential oil (added to shampoo or to some coconut oil for scalp treatment)
- Scrub wet scalp in shower with baking soda. Wash as usual. Final rinse with water mixed with some apple cider vinegar
- Coconut oil and / or Castor Oil (pure, 100%). If you feel your scalp is dry and irritated, massage with oil and leave on for an hour or overnight. 1-2 drops of lavender essential oil added in can be soothing.
Hope this helps!
Treat for Demodex Hair Mites
Posted by Leo (Olathe, Ks) on 02/20/2016
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Hello everyone.
From nearly all of the posts I see, it seems like most of you have demodex or hair mites. They thrive on oily skin and scalp. They live inside your hair follicle, hence your hair falling out. Also change your diets, this is a sign of a weak immune system. Eat organics and take organic vitamins to boost immune system. Best thing to do is see a dermatologist and ask for a natural treatment. If they don't help then YouTube and google are your best friends to finding a cure.
God be with you all.
Leo
Grapefruit Seed Extract
Posted by Sheila (Hallandale, Florida) on 01/07/2016 2 posts
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I was originally using Tea Tree Oil for the scabs on my scalp. When it got worse (not from Tea Tree Oil) I used 3 drops of grapefruit seed extract in my shampoo, as suggested by someone. After only 2 hair washes, the scabs are 3/4 gone. I also use grapefruit seed extract for teeth and gums.
