For the last two days, I have been coming to this very interesting site. I believe to have rosacea, the red skin kind, with weird bumps that pop really easy, and afterwards stay red, dry skin etc. My right eyelashes fall out very easily, while my left eyelashes are beautiful and long. I am now 25, and I remember that I had a problem with my eyelids when I was just a girl. I can't really describe it, but there were crusts around the hairs coming out of my eyelids, and I kept pulling them off. It stopped on its own and never had it again, but it seems to fit the whole demodex story... What do you think? Another thing is that I am Dutch. I am very good at english, but I just don't understand the whole Borax thing. When I google it, it's something to make glass? I have no idea how to use this or where to find it in Holland.. Are there other Dutch speaking people here that can explain this remedie to me? I just had my first cup of ACV and am going to put some on the spots.
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which I found locally at a store "whole foods". I am sure baking soda is a good product but really want people to take full advantage of the product the site is recommending.
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I have tried full strength tea tree oil, tea tree and lavender oil mixed, the borax/peroxide solution, just plain borax as a daily morning and night facial wash & scrub...I I've tried that then followed up with the tea tree oil, or tee tree/lavender oil mix. I've tried washing my face with lice shampoo and using the cream for scabies at my dermatologist suggestion, and everything my dermatologist has prescribed for rosacea and acne treatments (including sulfur products)and NOTHING is working or even helping. PLEASE if anyone can help I'd be forever grateful.
It just seems like you have tried most things that would work on rosacea or at least have seen some type of improvement. Good luck
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Thank you for taking the time to respond to my plight. I am glad you are having some success with this awful rosacea plague.
I have tried several of the things you have mentioned, but have not tried them all. I have tried most of what is on this site without much success, but I won't got thru that whole list again. Of what you have mentioned this is what I have tried:
I did the MetroGel/MetroCream from the dermatologist without success and also tried the cream you use for athelets feet which is similar to the monostat but not exactly the same, I wonder if there would be a difference? What would be your idea on that?
I've been using the tea tree oil pretty faithfully without much luck - or it is holding things down from being much worse than they would be otherwise, just not what I'm hoping for maybe?
You mentioned I think Chinese medicine philosophy about problems coming from the gut - I take a really potent probiotic from my pharmacist and alternative? who has the same theory already - I've seen some improvement with this, but again it can only do so much too I'm afraid.
I've tried alcohol. It was very drying and seemed to have a rebound effect with more oil to my already oily skin, thus more white heads. I have not tried the antibacterial hand cleaner though - some of those have vitamin e or aloe, etc added as moisturizers which might help? The one you used, did it have anything like that in it? Do you still use it or do you just use the straight alcohol only now?
I tried taking tumeric twice a day for a couple of weeks. I didn't see any benefit to my skin :( I was really hopeful about it too. I did end up very constipated from it. Maybe I just took too much to get that effect... anyway, I did discover a good anti-diarrhea remedy! Please advise if i was doing something wrong, overdoing or whatever with the tumeric capsules.
I tried ACV topically - I couldn't see any benefit in doing it at all. Not even as a regular toner let alone as a remedy of sorts for the problem at hand.
I do take ACV 2-3 times a day orally though. I haven't seen any benefits to my face but I have seen other health benefits like being able to eliminate 3 other prescription medications.
I'm not sure where to go from here. i'm not sure if you have seen my other post(s) as well, but my hair is thining at an alarming rate as well, and I've tried many ofthe remedies here for that as well.
I do also take 3 Tbsp. of VCO a day for the last 2 months and it hasn't made a difference one way or the other with my face, but my dermatologist told me to go ahead and keep it up because it had other properties that might help long term (like we all didn't know that). It has helped with my cracked heels and I've lost a few pounds since beginning it and the ACV.
So... I'm feeling stuck and not sure where to go from here - my skin is awful and my hair is falling out - just wanna crawl under a rock and die some days. I know there has to be an answer out there somewhere... I just wish I could find it.
Thank you again for responding to my post. Maybe we can put our heads together yet. Please tell me what kind of antibacterial hand sanitizer you tried, I'm game for about anything right now.
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I can't use creams on my face because it does cause acne and makes my face oil. My complexion on a general basis is normal. I am 44 years old and as a teen I had maybe 20 pimple on my face during the entire teen years, acne was not a problem for me, so now, my face has more of an acne appearance that what it looked as a teenager.
So has anyone else encountered the itchiness? I do not believe that rosacea comes from mites as it is only on the face, no other part of the body, I believe mites would be on any part of the skin, not just the face.
I was thinking about trying the Zinc Oxide, but lost on what to for the itchiness since I can't use creams on my face.
Thanks
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With that they also tend to use natural oils in products now, which if the mites like it.. I guess they will thrive.. things like jojoba oil which is apparently close in nature to our natural sebum.. which would explain why mine and my dds hair fall out when we've used anything jojoba..
We all have demodex though. It's when they overgrow that causes issues. Question is why are they over growing.
I'm thinking that what ever was in the old shampoos and soaps kept them in check... or even things like mineral oil which has been tainted as toxic now, maybe the demodex don't like it.. studies show that very little gets absorbed passed the top layers of skin and helps the skin maintain barrier. Which could have helped demodex from getting out of control.
Vaseline is basically like mineral oil just thicker.. I had read a case study that petroleum jelly helped get rid of these mites..
My dd had blepharitis/chalazions... so I tried vaseline over the lashes with cue tip and the little buggers popped right out of the hair follicles.. I was then convinced it was these mites.
It was a pain doing that every day for a 4 year old... eventually came across green tea.. being that we tried all other teas... black tea.. chamomile..
Green tea had gotten rid of my dds perioral dermatitis which I'm positive was from these mites after using toothpaste with sodium lureth sulfate or SLS..
Which I believe is disrupting the skin barrier.. SLS is in most shampoos too.. I believe it's the lauric acid. Lureth/lauryl anything that looks like the word lauric, I stay clear from now.
Strong green tea got rid of the chalazions and blepharitis too..
Sometimes I'd just put a little boiling water on the bag and make the solution really strong and apply to affected areas morning and night. It worked very quickly and thoroughly unlike the Apple Cider Vinegar or manuka honey or coconut oil.. we tried everything.
The mites carry some bad bacteria and compounds that release when they die and disintegrate on the skin.. which is why the skin gets red and reacts..
Not sure why green tea helps.. not sure if it kills them or they don't like it and drop off.. I've seen a few under microscope and they don't move. (I had bought a microscope because I wanted to know what these things were that popped out of my dds lashes).
I've later seen on YouTube where the footage was very fast tracked so you could see it move..
I wanted to capture some and see what the green tea does.. when I get the time and space on my phone to record it as I imagine I'd have to get an hours worth of recording...
I feel like it's the SLS in products disrupting the skin causing them to go nuts... and lack of protection from skin barrier products like mineral oils..
Maybe the green tea strengthens the skin barrier..
Some studies have shown it useful for rosacea and also ingesting it protects against uv damage to skin.. so it definitely seems it protects the skin..
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In the meantime, I have tried so many different remedies. I tried the Epsom Salts and it seemed to help a little. I tried the sea salt method which helped a little, but I have dry skin now and both methods dry my skin more. I am now trying Milk of Magnesia, which I put on, let dry, then rinse off. The bumps are under control but still have the redness. If I eat the wrong thing, I get red blotches. I also take Allegra to control allergy issues. It helped get rid of the rash. In the past I was not able to take ACV due to allergic type reactions; but I have never tried it on my skin. I'm going to buy some to try and do a patch test. If it makes it worse to begin with, I guess I will just wear a mask over it.
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Would the honey "feed" the mites rather than kill them, or is the antimicrobial factor stronger than the sugar in honey?
Does the GSE work, and how precisely would one dilute/apply it?
Many thanks for taking the time to write!
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The pimples were challenging. The skin affected is a mass of pimples. I tried honey, urine. No real difference. Medication didn't do anything. I have just started applying my mineral salt stick which I use as a deodorant. This seems to be working. Skin texture seems to be improving and pimples drying and healing.
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I am using the borax/peroxide remedie for my rosacea skin (I heard baking soda and peroxide works wonders too). But I am afraid it will harm my skin on the long run or worse, it will be unhealthy on the long run?
I also get a headache systematically after the lemon baking soda remedy. What can be the cause of that?
Thank you very much.
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I have controlled redness of rosacea considerably with a dilute solution of cider vinegar- I had to experiment with strength 50/50 Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) filtered water- as I have sensitive skin. I dab my face with ACV solution after cleasing with sensitive skin cleanser- after the ACV dries I then follow this with yogurt face mask- just dab live youghurt on and leave it about half an hour. I have been amazed at the way this maintains a redction in redness. I also ocassionally use lavender oil or Tea Tree. Look also on this site for Ted's remedy for rosacea- hope this helps.
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I also have very sensitive skin. I use the lavender straight from bottle lightly applying this to affected area- when I feel a breakout of spots coming on. I started using the yogurt every day and now I use this two or three times a week as there has been considerable reduction in redness and spots- it is now confined to one place on one side of my face I hope to clear it completly. I still use a weak solution of borax and H202 one or twice a week. Best of luck
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About four months ago I had my first bout of rosacea. I had a few episodes of redness that lasted a few minutes on my face and tips of my ears before but until a few months ago it always went away on it 's own. My first bout was pretty bad as it was mainly my chin that was red and stayed red. I used make up during the day to cover it and that worked. At night I would tone it after washing with cold camomille tea and tea tree oil. This did lessen the burning feeling and the redness a bit but not by much.
My rosaacea, three months later, is now at the point almost completely gone. Here is what I have been doing. I noticed a dramatic change right away and hopefully this will work for you as well.
1. Every night, after washing my face I apply a homemade toning solution made of 1 cup cammomille tea, 1/2 cup rubbbing alcohol and about 10-15 drops of tea tree oil. I apply it with a make-up sponge, completely covering the red areas twice. I leave it on overnight. After a week of this, the redness was reduced by at least 80%. I'm still a bit pink and have flushing but nothing out of the ordinary and the flushing subsides. My skin is also super smooth, blemish free and very soft now, a bonus!
2. I stopped eating soy sauce and vinegar as I always would get redness after eating food with these ingredients.
3. I ate alot of root vegetables, citrus fruit and bananas, foods high is potassium and vitamin C. I gained five pounds but my rosacea did really noticably reduce. I plan of losing the weight and hopefully my rosacea will not return as well.
4. Other things I did that I don't normally do is I ate alot of spicy foods once (vegan Kimchee), and applied a commonly prescribed rosacea cream three times. The cream felt funny and has perservatives so I stopped. I don't know if this had an affect but it may have helped. Spicy foods is supposed to aggravate rosacea but it seemed to have the opposite affect for me.
So far this regime has had a dramatic affect on my rosacea. I will update you in a few months and let you know if this is just a temporary solution or if for me it's a real cure.
I still eat no yeast, sugar, alcohol, salt, soy sauce or vinegar which I am sure helps.The funny thing is the few times recently I've eaten hot peppers my rosacea redness really diminshed to the point my skin looked like normal again.Only temporary as well but it was nice to see myself looking like normal again.
My rosacea is strange. I have a red chin with occasional flushing of my nose and cheek. It comes and goes but the redness on my chin is almost permaneent and requires makeup to cover.
I will keep trying and searching for a cure. Maybe lasers in the future. I will keep you posted.
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I had a post here earlier on how Hydrogen Peroxide (HP), tea tree oil and drinking baking soda worked for me. It did and then i stopped drinking the baking soda (instead i drank Apple Cider Vinegar) and then stopped washing my face with HP. after i stupidly changed my routine my rosacea came back with a vengeance right when the temperature dropped!
so that's my fault. before i used to wash my face with diluted tea tree and HP (i just eyeball the measurements... maybe 1 tsp tea tree and 2 or more table spoons of HP in 10 cups of water) and then stopped.
after that huge breakout, i tried Ted's remedy of saturated borax, HP, drinking borax and baking soda. over the weekend it was horrible. its now thursday and my skin is again normal! it would have cleared up earlier also i think since the first few batches i did of saturated borax i put toooooo much HP which burned my skin!! and i think by monday/tuesday the redness might have been more because of the burn. i wish someone had mentioned not to put too much HP (i tend to overdose i suppose) lol. but yes, the remedy worked. if its in the correct prescribed measurements, the borax does not sting at all. my bed is just real sandy now since i slept with the borax on my face.
my plan now is to keep putting it on at night, drink HP. I also drink ACV for my insomnia and general health.
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I think this is wise advice, Robert. I am beginning to think that rosacea is a symptom of sub-par health. Consequently, when one's health improves, so should one's rosacea. When i refer to health, i mean internal health. That said, i think it is still advantageous to apply gels/creams/ointments to one's face. A lot of evidence points to the cause of rosacea as a deficiency of vitamin b2 (riboflavin) and sulfur (MSM), two things which i have been supplementing my diet with as of late. While the literature suggests that these are not an immediate cure, they seem to work overtime and tackle the root of the problem, which should be the goal, that is, eliminating the cause.
Another thing which i suspect may provoke rosacea is mercury amalgams, as they could release too much mercury into one's body. I have not read too much from people in terms of whether removing mercury amalgams had any positive impact on their rosacea, though i am very interested in finding out.
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Thought you might be interested in alternative Dr. Jonathan Wright's theory that when you develop a skin problem, look to your gut (gastrointestinal tract). When you also look at the opinion that 75% or more of our immune system's work is done in the intestines, this could very well be right. Also all the EC'ers who report that taking ACV relieves acid regurg or GERD, adds to this, because his theory is that acid regurg is caused not by an excess of hydrocholoric acid but to a deficiency of it.
I also remember reading that the purpose of our pets licking their wounds is that the passage of the pathogens through their GI tracts is what forms the antibodies against the pathogens, which would seem to enforce the theory of much of the immune system function is performed in our intestines.
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I kinda know, like to take probotics and digestive enzymes, but would love to read the article you are refering to.
This is a first, as for me hearing about Dr. Johnathan Wright, I also have been watching Dr. Richard Becker on TV and find his show informative and I know you have mentioned Dr. Linus Pauling. I searced for Dr. Pauling and came to a website, and I think they wanted you to join or something sign up maybe...I perfer to just click on, like we do here and read...
Thanks in advanced, Joyce!
Hello Robert Henry... I know what you mean about different approaches that different healers have, for instance I see alot on here about SOY and SOY LETHICIN and I have found several articles other places that condem the use of SOY PRODUCTS... It seems that Natural healers agree to disagree on many things. I know Dr Andrew W. Saul recomends very high doses of Niacin for depression, not Nicimade and I have read that Niacin is absolutly terriable for the liver. I know you, yourself have said you eat know animal organs and Ted and Robert Von Sarbacher recommend Beef Liver for certain things....It does get confusing at times. Always something different from different healers.
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update on my skin - skin is all clear of rosacea! its unbelievable how i did not discover this last winter. my rosacea typically occurs during winter. i stopped using the borax for the moment but i'm thinking of doing it every other day.
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I live in Chicago too and have been looking for an alternative way of curing my Rosacea. I'm tired of all the medications, both internal and topical, that I've taken and that have little or no affect on my condition. Could you possibly provide me with the name of the TCM practioner that you saw in Chicago? Or provide the name of the specific area where he/she is located?
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After making many phone calls and verifying credentials of TCM practioners, I made an appointment.
First Practioner:
It's been three weeks since I started taking herbs for my Rosacea and the results were mediocre. I originally started with a TCM practioner located on the northside of Chicago, who gave me herbs combined with accupuncture. The first three weeks I did see some improvement (pustules were almost non-existent) but redness and papules remained. However, I did notice that when I received the second accupuncture treatment, the paplues were reduced in size, if not almost gone, and the redness still remained. On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the highest recommendation), I would rate this TCM practioner a 5).
Second Practioner:
I decided to see another TCM practioner that was closer to where I lived. After this second TCM practioner reviewed my health profile, checked my pulse, checked my tongue for color, checked my palms and nails, and asked me about any other ailments I had, I was given several herbs to injest. Within the first week, the redness was diminishing, pustules were almost absent, and just a few minor papules. By the third week, the redness on the left side of my face was just a blush of red, pustules are gone and a few smaller bumps. Needless to say, the herbs are working.
While my Rosacea has not totally disappeared, I can finally go outside without trying to hide my face. I still use makeup to hide the residual effects of Rosacea, which makes my face look normal. I would strongly recommend that you see a TCM practioner, rather than trying to take herbs on your own.
I think it's important to understand that while the herbs are working, you won't see changes over night, especially if your Rosacea is sever like mine is/was. Here is the website link to TCM practioner in Chicago http://www.liferising.com, 2131 S. Archer Ave. Suite B, Chicago IL, 312-842-2775.
Good Luck!
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Thanks! I have been using this only on my face for about a week and I notice my nose is less red. I am wondering if it makes sense to take borax with apple cider vinegar as one is an acid and the other a base. Wouldn't they neutralize each other out?
EC: More about Borax: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
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Where is the best place to get borax and HP from over the counter in Ireland, I have Rosacea mostly over my face and area and would be very interested to try the mix suggested in this forum.
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While treating the problem naturally, I also use natural mineral powder make-up which covers all signs of blemishes giving an even natural tone to the skin.It is applied with a brush- as it is in powder form. It does look good and it has given me confidence when I go out as no one would know you have rosacea. This make-up is made of minerals Micas, Titanium oxide, Zinc oxide, iron oxide, rice powder, kaolin-it does not iritate sensitive skin and acts as a sunscreen sun factor 15. If you buy mineral make-up check there is nothing else added like fillers such as Bismuth or talc as these are iritants.
It is a struggle but keep fighting. Some people take the anti-oxydent L-lysine - I am considering trying this- I think it is mentioned for rosacea on htis site. Hope this helps.
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I would be interested to know the quantities that you are using as you say that after two weeks you cant see a difference. I noticed a difference the first day and it slowed down after that. Although I never had any pustule or lumps of any kind I had the redness and crawling feeling of the mites along with intermittant severe flushing. All I have left is a lot of broken blood vesels which I believe is damage caused by the mites. Maybe the effects on your skin has been different and it may take longer or slight alteration of the remedy.
Bring your remedy with you when you go away, but pack it in your suitcase not your hand luggage. I did this and it was fine. At the most you will arrive at the other end without it. And by the way wear a sunhat if you are going someplace warm as there is not point getting sundamage after all the hard work of getting rid of the mites. Best wishes
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I just wanna know how much is 2 capfuls. Is it 1 teaspoon or 1 tablespoon. Thank you!
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All the stuff I read about rosacea and mites just made sense but, "my God", the cure seemed drastic. I have sensitive skin too so it was scary.
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Am I still using the treatment?
Maybe about once a month if I think of it although I have no contact with animals at present, I probably would then use a maintainence shot more often if I did..
I think that once you have had a parasitic type infection you will do anything to prevent a second round of it.
How long is my rosacea gone?
It was probably gone by around mid Sept having started Teds treatment in early june this year and like you noticed a remarkable difference in the early days and after about ten days, while not gone, it did take longer to see the differences. Because I was on holiday from work i was able to use it morning and night for the 1st 2 weeks using the 5 days on 2 days off routine. Then because I had to go back to work I only used it at night(mid your pillowcases, they will stain)and washed it off in the shower. I kept this up for a month and the went to every second night for a couple of weeks then every 3rd and so on. By christmas I had stopped regular use which by then was only once a week/10 days. I never broke the cycle I was using to know would it have re-emerged. But since then it's a case of if and when I remember it.
Moisturisers and cleansers I used -
The peroxide/borax is cleansing enough in itself and I only wear make-up 1 or 2 days per week which I made my off days from the treatment so I continued to use a standard off the shelf cleanser for sensitive skin at weekends. I used a couple of different moisturisers that are non-perfumed. Many years ago I saw programme on a cream which is the basis of all medicated creams i.e. cream and cortisone or cream and antibiotic.The claim was that this was unperfumed and relatively pure so as not to interact with the medications. I wouldn't assume this still stands true as most manufactures will add cheap chemicals and call it a new and improved product. Anyway, the cream is called silcocks base and is manufatured by a number of different Irish companies. I don't know what it would be called in the States It is often used for excema sufferers.
VCO tended to give me a tingling sensation if I used it too soon in the day or night after the peroxide/borax. But for a deeper moisturiser I would use sesame oil, grapeseed oil and sometimes a little castor oil to which I added a few drops of neem oil. Now I will use any of the ordinary off the self stuff. Because I sunburn very easily I use the strongest 24 hr sunblocks that are sold for children. They are chemical laden and will sting sensitive skin but it's far better than sunburn and sunstroke(believe me, I've been there)
Afraid to try -
Yeah, I was too, but now I'm real glad that I did go for it. The flushing and stinging was unbearable. I was afraid to go out in the sun because that made it worse.
I now have sensitive skin rather than ultra-sensitive skin (stung constantly with or without product). I would have to be trying an new soap or cream and have a reaction for a cream to reeally sting me now and I find I can use most stuff without a problem. Opening the diswasher (real hot steam) too soon can also do it now. The only downside was that when the flushing was gone I can now see each individual broken veins. I thought I just had a few but now I can see loads.
Dry and itchy skin -
Try putting it on at night only. I noticed that my skin looked and felt very dry - almost like crumpled paper within about 10 minutes of putting on the HP/B but it seemed to go back to normal after a shower. I think the minute particles of borax sat on the skin and and itched a bit. Ted does reccomend it twice per day but the once worked for me.
Hope this helps. Robert Henry from Ten Mile were the posts that I followed to give me my confidence to go ahead although if you're seeing a difference already you've probably made your mind up.
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Thank you so much for your very helpful reply! While reading it, I thought of more questions...you are a great resource.
Are you still drinking the borax & hp, if not, when did you stop? Did you ever drink water with baking soda, or add it to the borax/ hp drink? What are you doing for your broken capillaris? do you still have some redness to your skin (rosy cheeks) or has it all disappeared?
I am so anxious for this to work and put this ailment behind me...i've been dealing with this for three years!
Many thanks Tricia!
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But the reaction is just opposite of what was expected.
Now it has affected my complete face ( full cheeks) and is getting worst with each day.
Please sugest, should I discontinue it?
I really want to get rid of rosacea :-(
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There are a few important questions that I have not seen the answers for and feel are very important to know prior to trying the borax treatment:
1) Is 3% hyrdrogen peroxide okay to use?
2) What quantities do I use of the borax and hydrogen peroxide?
3) Is this only applied in the evening?
4) How long is it left on before washing off?
5) How many days is this used for and then how often for prevention?
6) What are the expected side effects?
If someone could answer these questions it would be greatly appreciated as I am desperate to get some relief.
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Do you think there is a connection between mercury amalgams and rosacea? I have several mercury fillings, which i would like to have removed. I will be spending much time in Asia in the near future, so i am thinking about visiting a dentist there that specializes in the safe removal of mercury fillings. Perhaps you can recommend some in Thailand or Korea. Thanks.
