Natural Remedies

Chronic Pain Remedies

Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
Posted by Steve (Victoria BC, Canada) on 12/06/2007
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Hi everyone at earthclinic! I am a 60 year male. I found your site after a search for arthritis and natural cures. I started taking the ACV and BS two months ago. It has significantly reduced the pain and swelling between my knuckles. My hips and knee pain are getting better and the food taste better as well. My energy has increased and I am not napping as much. I don't feel as cold anymore and no more shivers in bed. It has also helped my wife with her knees. I can't thank you enough for your wonderful natural cure. I almost got sold on the Swedish joint pain formula but I' found your site and I am now saving my much needed money. Now I am going to start using the H202 inhalation method and I will let you know how that turns out.You are on my 649 list and you can hold me to that.

Ted's Cat's Purr Remedy
Posted by Lisa (Stuarts Draft, VA) on 10/15/2007
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There was a terrific posting of a WAV file of a cat's purring that helps in inflammation/pain management. I find that when I listen to this file that I feel great relief from arthritic pain. The problem is that I am only able to play the file while sitting at my computer. I want to make it more mobile-friendly and listen to it while away from home. Is there a way to download this onto my computer as an mp3 file? I could then transfer it to my mp3 player for portability. For those who have not tried this, it has been a great pain reliever.

Blackstrap Molasses
Posted by Ann (Trinidad And Tobago) on 02/12/2011
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My doctor indicated my right knee had a meniscus degenerative tear, I even got a second opinion and surgery was recommended. I was tired with the pain killers and I wanted also a natural form of calcium. A friend suggested I use Blackstrap molasses... I take a teasppon every morning before breakfast. I hardly experince pain, I have lost a few pounds and I feel great. Blackstrap molasses has add wonders to how I feel on a daliy basis... It is a renewed feeling. I have not done surgery.

Ginger Root
Posted by Suzanne (London) on 11/15/2006
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I have suffered from very bad arthritis for some years and also osteoporosis of the spine. I used to dread winters even though I was prescribed anti-inflamatory pills and painkillers by my doctor. I recently discovered ginger root (I found a newspaper article about ginger that I had put away some years ago) and have been taking it for about 3 weeks now in capsule form from the health food shop. The stiffness has gone from my joints and spine and most of the pain which is gradually disappearing. In fact, the other day I realized that I didn't have any pain or stiffness at all. It is such a great remedy that I am recommending it to everybody I know who has arthritis.

Posted by Cindy (Illinois, USA) on 03/12/2023 401 posts

Raw tomatoes and I don't get along. Not sure why. I'm going to grow my own this year, organic-style. See if it's something added. Apparently, they mess with organic produce, after the fact, as well. Technically, they're GROWN organically but what happens to them after that is anybody's guess.

Posted by Farmer (Hometown) on 03/12/2023

Read about the use and effects of copper sulfate when growing tomatoes. It may be the cause.

DMSO, Castor Oil
Posted by Linda (Ireland ) on 02/10/2022
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Bought dmso for my sore shoulder, I dont know why it was sore but I couldn't lift my arm above my head and it was starting to hurt even without movement, so earth clinic suggested dmso and castor oil.

1 application and after a rash, itch and a little discomfort the pain went from 9 out of 10 to like a 2.....i love herbs and old remedies and would definitely recommend this

Baking Soda
Posted by Edward D. (East Tawas, Mi) on 08/29/2018
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Arm and Hammer baking soda for pain. .....

I take 1 teaspoon in the morning, noon, night with 8 oz of water mix well until glass is clear. If. I have pain I add the same dosage every two hours.

Turmeric Pain Paste
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 01/05/2017

Hi there folks! Good New Year so far then? That's the ticket!

SO ....Turmeric powder, Black Pepper and EITHER Grape Seed oil OR Coconut oil and Water mixed together. Then gently heated up in a ceramic bowl till it forms a paste, allow to cool and smear on the annoying, affected part. That was what I was told to do for PAIN a good while ago but what are the amounts please? Was wondering if this one could be good for the Dreaded Bursitis also (now that's Painful)!

Thanks in anticipation for the correct quantities. Also, would one substitute Cayenne Pepper for Black Pepper or does it matter? So many little little ready cash... so much to do!? Thank God for E.C. eh?

Cheers, Michael

Turmeric Pain Paste
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 01/06/2017

Well that is terrific Mama to Many. I was hoping you would reply. Your asset is knowing BOTH what to do and how to do it and explaining both parts so well. Oh dear that's three parts! However... I had been led to believe by my Japanese friend that the heating things up bit was an important component of the therapy . Much like those "Teas" that require you to "steep" them for a while for maximum efficacy or even some of your brews that require a period of standing / absorbing to work most effectively. We may benefit by allowing the chemistry to strut its stuff for a while prior to ingesting some of these substances possibly? Will keep you posted on progress if I gain any wisdom worth imparting! Thoughts on this? Cheers, and thanks again, Michael

Turmeric Pain Paste
Posted by Michael (New Zealand) on 01/07/2017

This Turmeric conversation is fascinating me. I initially commenced taking Turmeric for pain by scattering the powder on my evening meal but after simply ages (weeks and weeks) of doing this I was getting no tangible results. I consciously commence remedies by taking small doses anyway but I was under-doing it obviously. One simply cannot get enough Turmeric that way. Next, we chucked some Turmeric powder into our rice at every meal consisting of rice (my Wife loves potatoes and I prefer rice), so that all our rice dishes and meals became so yellow that I thought all rice was naturally yellow after a while! Still nothing on the pain front....

Then I was told by my erstwhile Japanese friend to boil some water and then simmer the water with a teaspoon of Turmeric and one teaspoon of Ginger in it for ten minutes or so before letting it cool and consuming the filtered concoction with some honey to taste.

A posting on this Site claims that this dilutes the potency of the Turmeric rather than enhancing it. Rather than taking the Turmeric tablets, I shall persist with trying to find a palatable way of getting the benefits of the Turmeric Powder internally if I can. Am I complicating things un-necessarily I wonder? The tablet takers don't worry about the taste then? The boiling and steeping and standing of things interests me anyway.... as an aside! Increases potency or decreases potency? Someone should write the manual on this. I thought the "fillers" might make the tabs more "full" than the actual Turmeric - hence the quest to go "Au natural". More bang for my buck. I'm a bit of a scrooge that way: possibly to my detriment! However, I am taking a Multi-Vitamin, MSM, and Alfalfa tablets, alkalizing and oil pulling with Coconut oil. Also Ted's Borax regime for a few weeks now five days per week. We hope for progress but I have endured this malady for a few years now so, as one of our actresses famously said many years ago, "It won't happen over night but it will happen".

Cheers, Michael

Posted by Timh (Ky) on 12/29/2016 2072 posts


To my knowledge, Serrapetase is not a natural pain med. It seems obvious that you have chronic infections in your bones. The Serra temporarily destroys much of the bioplasma that acts as a natural barrier to protect infection. After taking Serra your immune system is allowed to kill infection, but is not enough as the infection is advanced. I would recommend following the Serra with Berberine. Ted's Borax protocol would also help your situation. Magnet Therapy is very effective at removing local infection & inflammation (which is the cause of pain). Following Magnet Therapy, place Salonpas on the affected area (your knee & hip) to further eradicate infection.

Siphoning Energy Technique
Posted by Mary Beth (Pittsburgh) on 09/18/2016
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To alieve pain from a burn, a technique called siphoning. Put your left hand (it must be the LEFT hand) -- on, over, or near the site of a burn. In my case, it was three square inches of a burn from boiling liquid. Then I put my RIGHT hand in a position that was below the left hand, on the right side of my body. In less than a minute, the pain from the burn lessened -- and was largely gone in a few more minutes. I learned this in an energy medicine class and from my Eden energy practitioner. I was amazed at how prompt the healing was in this instance.

Anti-inflammatory Turmeric Elixir
Posted by Om (Hope, Bc, Canada) on 04/11/2015
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I am quite amazed. I have been taking Turmeric for umpteen years but now that an old injury started to cause bad pain from hip to ankle and did not go away, I found a very tasty drink which made it disappear. I had to repeat it about three days after the first drink. It is so good tasting and healthy --- so here it is:

  • 3" piece root of ginger or 2 tblsp. powder.
  • The root can be juiced or slices simmered for short time in a very small amount of water.
  • 4" piece of turmeric root OR 2 tsp. powder.
  • Juice of 3 lemons, organic if possible and utilize the skin for other uses.
  • dash cayenne
  • 4 cups coconut water. Watch what quality
  • Raw honey to taste, not heated but warmed in a small glass inside a pot with warm water off the heat.

Store in fridge up to three days.

This is a refreshing drink. But any similar drink with turmeric will be good, too.

MahaNarayan oil on alternative days will also help a great deal for treatment of pain.

Namaste, Om

Bill's Remedies
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/28/2014
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About a month ago I got out of bed one morning and couldn't walk very well. There was a continual dull pain in my upper left hip area that turned into a shooting pain whenever I tried to walk. It was quite painful and, much more annoying, prevented me from going on my walks every day.

I had a think and then took the following supplements:

A decoction of Makabuhay (Tinospora cordifolia) -- Also known as Gudduchi in Ayurvedic medicine. Took it to get rid of the pain -- worked a treat as usual. This is the best remedy I have for any inflammation or pain problems in the tissues. Half a glass of the decoction, with water and fresh fruit juice, twice a day. Very bitter.

Alpha Lipoic Acid (300 mgs twice a day with food)-- To heal any nerve problems.

Lugol's iodine -- 8 drops a day to kill any involved pathogens. Also helps to heal bone problems like osteoporosis.

MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) -- To heal tissues problems and to reduce pain and inflammation. One teaspoon (5 grams) a day.

Brewer's Yeast -- One tablespoon a day to heal the nerves.

Borax (1/4 tspn per day in water) -- To kill any pathogens involved in any arthritic or rheumatic problems. Also balances hormones and removes fluoride from the body.

Magnesium Oil (sat solution of magnesium chloride) -- 10 drops twice a day to help heal bone/tissue problems.

This is how I took the supplements.

Took the Makabuhay first thing in the morning and last thing at night on its own. This remedy was free from my own garden.

Mixed Borax, MSM and Sodium Bicarbonate(1/2 tspn) in a large glass of water. Taken once a day. Sipped this throughout the day. Occasionally added magnesium oxide(1/4 tspn) to this mix for higher alkalinity. Taken outside mealtimes.

Drank lots of water.

Took Magnesium oil, Brewer's Yeast and ALA at mealtimes with a glass of water. If I got the ALA burning sensation after a meal -- I just took a glass of sodium bicarb with water (1/2 hour after the meal) which would get rid of this problem in minutes.

Lugol's Iodine -- 8 drops a day in a glass of water outside mealtimes on its own.

This protocol has worked well and the pain in my damaged hip has all but gone now but I'll be staying on this protocol for another month at least just to make sure.

Bill's Remedies
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 03/29/2014

Hello Bill,

I have a similar hip issue; mine is related to pelvis shift problem. I have some scoliosis and the lower back is turned a bit and also the pelvis. So my problem is skeletal basically. My right leg, back side of leg above knee, if I've been driving in my car for a while starts aching, something like a cramp but not a cramping; just it needs stretching. Well, that's what helps. I do a lot of "karate" styled stretching. The more I do, the less the problem manifests itself.

Don't mean to say this is your problem; I'm just playing off your issue for anyone out there who might have similar add to the index of possibilities.

By the way, I love how you list the nutritional items in your post and then describe what that nutrient does. Your posts are always so informative.

Bill's Remedies
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 03/31/2014

Hi Dave...I always appreciate comments and new ideas -- thanks for your input.

Well, my strange hip problem appears to be rapidly receding. I seems to be clear of the shooting pains now although the compression feeling in the left hip region is still there(but fading too). I doubled my dose of Organic Brewer's Yeast a couple of days ago to two tablespoons and this seems to have greatly helped. Brewer's Yeast contains all sorts of other heavyweight nutrient goodies besides the B vitamins including Selenium, Coenzyme Q10 and beta glucan. And Brewer's Yeast is cheap as well as natural.

I also sometimes get the leg cramps that you mention -- at night mostly -- and I know that this problem for me is mainly due to a lack of potassium/magnesium. I usually get the leg cramps after taking turpentine or Makabuhay(Tinospora cordifolia) because these two protocols have diuretic action -- they remove water and minerals from the body and I always forget to add minerals into these protocols.

I always read your comments on using Colloidal Silver. This is a most useful protocol for any blood infections like you have said. I haven't been able to find any CS in the Philippines yet but I will probably be buying some again off the internet soon. For now, I just rely on nutrients like Lugol's Iodine, Methylene Blue, Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Turpentine, DMSO etc against the various different types of blood born infections.

I am also looking to start taking enemas regularly for the first time and have been studying them recently. The reason for this new interest is that I have seen the amazing benefits and results -- first hand -- on the autism site that I'm involved with at the moment. The kids are taking enemas on a daily basis and their health is undoubtedly improving rapidly. The coffee enema is a must to clear out all the poisons from my liver and body. Then there is the soda enema, the milk and salt enema(gets rid of excess mucus from the intestines), the MMS enema(parasites), the Iodine enema, the turpentine enema(with soap) etc -- I expect to be having hours of fun experimenting with my new enema kit and Lord only knows what sort of "rust" is going to come tumbling out of my old back pipe...!!

Bill's Remedies
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 04/01/2014

Hi Dave...Dr William Kelly was very successful against cancer and Nick Gonzales has been just as succesful. I read somewhere that in Nick's Metabolic Protocol for cancer, his patients take between 150 to 170 pills a day, as well as diet, enemas etc. In Max Gerson's cancer protocol, his cure appeared to be almost solely based on defending the liver at all costs -- by getting all the poisons and toxins out of the body as fast as possible using both the coffee enemas and castor oil laxatives at the same time (thus avoiding re-absorption and redistribution of both cancer toxins and heavy metals via the colon). For each cancer patient (all of them usually with Stage 4 cancer where the doctors had already given up hope), Gerson gave them 4 enemas a day and 4 enemas during the sleeping hours. That's 8 enemas every 24 hours!! Interestingly, Max Gerson originally started curing people of TB in 1928 with this protocol. Then, so the story goes, someone aproached him desperate to try his therapy for someone in the familly with cancer in the 1930s and his protocol worked -- and the rest is history.

Gerson's strategy of always protecting the liver is therefore pretty logical. Walter Last has written about pleomorphic microbes and describes his own belief that, especially in chronic autoimmune diseases, we have a sludge build-up in our blood(as we get older) that cannot be cleared -- so it never goes away but just keeps building up. It is here that this sludge -- which contains bits of proteins, DNA and RNA -- can suddenly develop on their own to become viruses. Depending on the state of the body at the time, these new dangerous pathogens will simply adapt and change into viruses, bacteria or fungus as their living medium(the host body) demands and end up causing or contributing to our vast array of idiopathic and autoimmune diseases that we have today. See Walter Last's detailed article here.

So this is where protease enzymes and other useful and helpful liver protocols(such as the coffee enema, ALA, Milk Thistle, Selenium, MSM etc) will help to clear these toxins, heavy metals, proteins and sludge from the blood.

Doctors are completely unable to cure autoimmune diseases because they think like this: One Disease -- One Germ -- One Cure. How wrong or dumb can they be ? Their strategy and treatment for any chronic auto-immune disease is always palliative -- just treat the symptoms. So its a fail for them in my book.

That's why treatments like CS or MMS or Hydrogen Peroxide are so useful -- they kill a wide range of pathogens in the blood.

Of all the high, respected professions in this world, I find it most peculiar that being a doctor is NOT a performance related profession (in terms of lives saved or improved). If modern medicine were indeed performance related then I'm pretty sure that there would be alot of doctors and specialists who would be jobless out on the street mumbling, "...But I was following the Standard of Care Manual...Honest!! ...And they still died!! ". I guess doctoring is no longer a free-thinking, common sense profession anymore. And, of course, DO NO HARM doesn't enter into any part of the equation now where another drug sale is involved.

Sorry, ranting a bit...

Shooting Pain Remedies
Posted by Tom (Fort Worth, Texas) on 12/31/2013

Happy New Year Al,

The problem you describe, shooting pain down inner thigh when you cough or sneeze, could be pelvis twisted a bit and that pinches nerves in the dorsal and down leg. Do you feel pain in lower back...especially very low in back?

I have low back issues, two rear end collisions (I was hit)...but have not had the shooting pain, but that doesn't mean a rotated pelvis would not manifest as you describe.

I've had success with Chiropractors over the years. I've had to try different ones until I got ones who nailed the problem. Also I've had some success with physical therapists.

So if the problem is really the vertebra/pelvis maybe a good DC or PT could help.

Sitting Indian Style
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 10/21/2013
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Last week I was traveling. The combination of almost 2,000 miles in the van plus not having access to my usual solutions (I brought a lot with me, but not everything! ) I ended up having terrible pain in my hip. My hip isn't great anyway. I have scoliosis and carrying babies and toddlers around on my hip for years hasn't helped. Also, I had a bone marrow biopsy (probably a bad idea) 15 years ago while trying to figure out what was going on with the ITP. It was done in the hip that gives me trouble. Anyway, it isn't usually too bad unless I am pregnant.

Each morning, after sleep my hip felt pretty good but by lunch time each day it was getting worse and worse. My hip seemed really tight, which made me think it was muscular. And I was feeling nerve pain in the leg...maybe inflammation pressing on the nerve?

By the grace of God, I decided to try some stretches - and ended up sitting Indian Style on the floor for 20 minutes each evening while I read. I also sat this way in the car some (I wasn't driving! ) The pain was improving daily and by the time I got home I didn't have any more pain. My chiropractor has done some stretches for my hip before that seem to stretch the same muscle that I feel stretching when I sit Indian Style. I am going to make an effort to sit this way each day some to keep myself more limber.

Hope that helps someone else.

I missed keeping up with EC posts while I was away!

Have a great day!

~Mama to Many~

Sitting Indian Style
Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 10/22/2013 2072 posts

Have thought of you during your absence and tried not to succumb to worry as most times things turn out not-so-bad at least during peace-time.

My hip where I had bone marrow biopsy hurts only occasionally (in my weakest times) so I immediately place large magnet over it for about 15 min and all the pain and inflammation is gone.

The squatting is probably a form of "earthing" and earthing is the same principle of energy medicine as magnets. I sleep on a magnet pad nightly, wear a belt for about 2 hrs daily, and use strong magnet over any severe place like liver. I have several times achieved substantial reduction in BP w/ large magn over liver.

Anyway, welcome back.

Sitting Indian Style
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 10/23/2013

Hi Timh from KY,

Thank you for your post. I am not familiar with medical use of magnets and am looking into it!

~Mama to Many~

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Gillian (Andulusa, Spain ) on 09/27/2013

Hi, I need help. I am having very severe pain in my neck and shoulders, under my skin it feels gravelly and stringy/ropey. The pain feels electric. I also have similar pain and gravelly feeling around my hips. Massage acupuncture chiro just aggravate it. I feel very stressed, lots of brain fog, bad ocd and a feeling of malevolence. And feel stuck.

Sometimes the pain is so bad I want to die, tho I am not suicdal.

I am very exhausted and sleep very poorly, tho I take trazodone and deep sleep an herbal sleep aid.

My digestion is very bad lots of loose stools very smelly lots of dumping indigestion, acid stomache, bad breath, athletes foot feet very smelly even if I wash them. I am a little underwieght.

My left lower leg and foot is partly numb and has been for a few years it is not from diabetis.

I am SCARED cuz now my right leg is feeling kind of numb and tingley too. My balance feels off.

Yesterday I felt lightheaded and disoriented. I was told I have a low grade virus white blood cell count high, but they could not say what kind of virus. Does anyone know what it could be or how to heal it?

I feel achey, my voice is kind of weak and I have a dry cough and vaginal infection.

My skin color is kind of yellowish. my lfts were normal no mono or anemia.

I had been feeling terrible emotionally, tremendous rage, loads of uncontrollable crying, and depression, for long time, but the past few days my emotions are better.

I had been on a very low dose 6.5 mg venlafazine, generic of effexor which I stopped around 4 months ago with doctors ok.

I am still on 300mg of gabapentin, generic of neurotin for mood swings.

I do not use any sugar or junk food or flour.

I feel that I am getting very little nutrition from my food.

If anyone has suggestions, I would be grateful and if you can be very specific that would help as I get overwhelmed with all the info out there. The air quality in my home is bad despite a very good air filter. Thanks so much for any suggestions.

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Connie (Utah, Usa) on 09/28/2013

Hi Gillian;

These are the many symptoms of B12 deficiency. They are terribly painful. It's difficult to diagnose because tests can be inaccurate. Please find a doctor who knows how treat this, or take high dose sublinguals. ( some people with neurological symptoms will require very high dosages.)

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 09/28/2013

Dear Gillian, so sorry about all this pain and discomfort. I am sure it is discouraging. Several things come to mind as I read your post.

First, someone else suggested b-12, which sounds like a good idea to me, too.

Charcoal is excellent for bad breath and diarrhea. If you can stop the diarrhea, you may be able to absorb more nutrients. I would suggest 4 charcoal capules or tablets, twice a day. Do not take within two hours of medication. You can take more if you like, it can just be hard to coordinate it with other meds and supplements.

You say you have a low grade virus and athletes foot. Extra virgin coconut oil is good for viruses and athlete's foot. You could start with 1 t. Three times a day and work up to 1 T. Three times a day. Soaking your feet in 1/2 vinegar and 1/2 water may help the misery of athlete's foot as well. Do this for 15 minutes a day. (Any kind of vinegar works for this.)

Raw Apple Cider Vinegar might help you with several issues. It can help certain kinds of pain by reducing inflammation. Plus it helps to balance PH. Try 1 t. In 6 oz of water, twice a day. If that sits well with you, work up to 1 T. in 8 oz of water twice a day.

The yellowish skin makes me think of your liver. Dandelion tea would be a good blood and liver purifier. Start with 1 cup a day and work up to 2 cups a day.

If you have a way to juice organic carrots, that would be a concentrated form of nutition. So would Blackstrap molasses. (1 T. once or twice day.)

I hope this list isn't overwhelming. You have many health challenges and it may take several things to get you feeling better. These would be good things to start with.

Please keep us posted on your progress.

~Mama to Many~

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by [email protected] (Hayward Ca) on 09/29/2013

Hi, I am so sorry to hear about your ailments. I would like to suggest to search on Magnesium Deficiency. There is a book on The Magnesium and why its a miracle supplement and also Transdermal Magnesium. There is plenty of info. On You Tube as well. Type in Magnesium Deficiency.

Several of your symptoms including unstable emotions, crying, rage, depression, body aches, brain fog, abdominal problems, numbness, feeling off balance, fungal infections are all in the list of the hundreds of symptoms of Magnesium Deficiency.

Transdermal magnesium is use of Magnesium spray for all over the body. It goes thru the skin to the blood and to the circulation faster. My co worker has had back aches for many years, she has had chiro, massages, accupuncture, cupping, etc, none of them helped her. With Magnesium Oil spray, she felt immediate relief. I was surprised. Different effects for different people. Magnesium through the skin gives faster results than pills.

The Mg Oil spray is one, Bathing in Epsom Salt water is another. (Magnesium Phosphate) for 20-30 minutes. It should help the body aches and help your body and mind get relaxed and afford very rested sleep. And third, also take Mg Glycinate orally while also using the spray (Mg Chloride) All these are available on line or Pharmacies.

I buy Mg Flakes and dissolve 1 cup Flakes into 1 cup bottled water to use for the Mg spray. This is more economical. 8 sprays is equivalent to 100 mg. Up to 1000 mg is safe according to Dr. Mark Sircus, he is on You Tube.

Magnesium will take months to get built up in our system, 6-12 months, so using the both spray and the soaks will speed it up. Epsom salt for tub soaking is very inexpensive. Or you could also do foot soaks.

Note that Magnesium could not be used in kidney failure. Always ask your MD if Magnesium is OK for you.

Hope this helps.

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Andrea C (Wales) on 09/29/2013

There is a condition called, post acute withdrawal syndrome, it can be caused by drugs, alcohol, herbal remedies, and vitamins, caffeine and smoking will aggravate it. I have it from medication, its hell!! It often gets misdiagnosed as Fibromyalgia, Me, Ms, Chronic pain Syndrome, Flu Syndrome, and even Mental problems!! I am real angry as God knows how many people are suffering from this, and being told they got a 'Naturally related illness' or their mad???? The thing is, it can be misdiagnosed as so many different illnesses it's unreal!! Neuropathic pain is also another one, and your symptoms are classic of Post Acute withdrawal Syndrome (P. A. W. S) and the more drugs you take the further in to hell you go!! I am a bloody 'expert' on this matter now, unfortunately, as I could not understand why I was getting sicker and sicker, it will do a number on you, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, all aspects of being Human. Do NOT suddenly stop taking meds you are on, or INCREASE dosage, this will make it worse!! Do not drink Alcohol, and if you do, TAPER OFF, you do this by, say you drink 10 beer's a day, drop by 2 a day, until you reach 2, then none, With the meds, they too must be TAPERED, I do not know which meds you take so I can't suggest a taper without this information. Also vits herbs, etc as mentioned above. This is now in epidemic proportions, I know so much about this as I have done millions of research, and through what I am going through, I will post a Link which gives you a run down on this matter, but its got so many faces its unreal! Even suddenly stopping whatever substances you swallow, or use transdemally or I. V will cause it. I can see it in lots of other people from mild, to severe, and to also committing suicide, as they can't take any more. There is also video's on 'youtube' by other's going through this hell, and SOME ONE is very responsible for maybe billion's of us suffering this hellish torment. House hold products is also a big link in a very long chain of caused, manmade material's make up, all sorts. I have nearly died because of Medical incompetence, and had to 'spring' myself from Hospital, after taking a drip pumping more poison into my vein's off, and the Hospital automatically locked down the building to stop me getting the hell out of there, I could barely stand up, and was in a terrible state!! There is a lot more to this, and I feel like an army of one trying to do something about this, its bloody dangerous! I can't say too much, and there's stuff I'd like to say... The whole truth.. But same again. The link is quite basic I feel, BUT, it will give you some idea of what it is, and what to do, unfortunately a lot of people are only too willing to believe the Medical Manipulation their under. That in its self is a huge tragedy. I can see it in lots of folk on E. C as well, and I feel like screaming because I can't save the World, but I am going to have a bloody good try!!! On the link, first read 'Withdrawal' then read 'Post Acute withdrawal' there is also a Menu of different things which may be of help or interest to you. I have mentioned about this to 'Specialist Consultants' but I fear I am treading on dangerous ground, so I stopped trying to get any sense out of them, and they also got VERY angry, and threatening with me, only one admitted, when I said 'These Drugs are killing me!! " 'Yes they are' he replied. Another DR, who I'd never seen before asked 'Who the hell put you on these two painkillers together? Your seriously toxic!! ' This also happened when I was admitted to Hospital for nearly three months with a 'Chest infection'??? I couldn't shake off in over a year, and had every anti-biotic know to Man, I. V, oral, via my anus. They were also treating me for 'Asthma' at the same time, once again another DR I'd never seen, when I told him I felt like I was being seriously poisoned to death, took one look at my Med chart, and freaked out, I was right!!! I also learned it's no good asking your DR to Taper you, they will do it way to fast, and this is so dangerous it can cause Heart failure, Stroke, Brain damage, and God knows what else!! I am not trying to scare you, my fear turned to anger when I discovered 'The Truth' and do NOT let them tell you need more of any drugs you are on now or more?? This escalates the problem. I did my own Taper off so many Meds, I don't think there's anything I haven't had pushed, or pumped in to me. It's that bad, that I now know MORE than most Pharmacist's and every Dr I've spoken too. I had a wonderful Dr once, who told me 'Every time you diagnose yourself you are RIGHT, but DR's don't like it, I only stopped seeing her as she left to have a baby 'Then there was the case of my friends Mother, who I kept telling for 9 years exactly what was wrong with her, and the big Medical guns were wrong. 9 years later they told her. 'We got it wrong'. ' Yes' she said, 'my young friend told me years ago what was wrong' DR's.. 'Did she now? Well WE just discovered this week's ago, she can't have possibly known' so WHAT did your friend say (followed by laughter) so she told them, I was RIGHT!!! Yet some of the greatest minds in the Medical Profession had 'just discovered it?? I did it through observation and instinct, I have no Medical training, but Dr's forget about the Human Spirit, and never think outside the box. Even Mental illnesses, I have observed can often be put down to poor dietary practice, and other environmental particulars as well. I have so much more to say, but I too am in agony, but I post on here when I can, and I will keep doing so, we are ALL dead, if we just sit and say nothing, it's wrong!!! None of us are immortal any way, and who wants to live forever in such an evil and corrupted society?? And there IS Life after Life, I have indisputable evidence of this also, and one time the Medics found something I had told them which it was impossible for me to know was right. They wanted me to talk to DR;s from everywhere but I refused. I will save it for another time. Love Andrea C XXXXXXXXXX

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 09/29/2013

Hi Gillain, regarding the Apple Cider Vinegar - you know your body best. If internal vinegar doesn't agree with you, you are wise to know it and skip it. You could look in to alkalizing formulas here at EC, baking soda might work better for you. But now there are many suggestions for you and perhaps that idea could go on the back burner for now.

Yes, charcoal is good for loose stools and not just for diarrhea. It is a wonderful help to the gut in general as it draws out toxins. Since you mention odor and frequency, I would still consider it a good choice for you. And in some strange way, charcoal helps with pain. I wish I understood it better, but I do not, I just enjoy the way it works.

Finally, regarding the Blackstrap... You are so wise to know your body and how it reacts to sugar. Personally, I don't find it very sweet and feel in general that natural sugar (from honey and blackstrap) have enough health benefit that they are worth having in the diet, in moderation, of course. However, for someone who has a lot of trouble with sugar, it may be best to skip even those. So, for now, I would skip the Blackstrap and know it is something you can try down the road if you want. And yes, you could mix it in to water or milk or something. One of the nutrients in it is magnesium, which Toourlady89 mentions, with lots of good detail. I think she is on to something here. And I like her idea of epsom salt baths. They are great for pain and increasing your magnesium. One thing to know and watch for though is that magnesium can increase bowel function. I have a toddler that lets loose when I put him in a tub with epsom salt. (Unless he has recently "taken care of business.") Please do let us know how it is going for you!

~Mama to Many~

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Andrea C (Wales) on 09/30/2013

Sorry :-( try again!! lol :-) Link for 'Post Acute Withdrawral Syndrome' P.A.W.S Andrea C xxx

Severe Pain Remedies
Posted by Andrea C (Wales) on 09/30/2013

Gillain x I have re-read your post, I am more than convinced you have Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome now. The symptom's will come and go, and are so variable it's hard to try, if not impossible to count them. The Meds you are on, I was also on them, plus a load of others, you also mention weight loss, in two years I have lost five stone, (70 pounds) without even trying!! I look like dead person walking, and I am still losing weight, my white blood count is low, hair thinning out, severely dry skin, bones breaking easily without no obvious cause as my bone density is normal. I can't put any weight on no matter how hard I try, and every suggestion others have posted I have tried them all, and more, I have spent thousands of pounds on all sorts of remedies, Chiropractors, Homeopaths, Faith Healers, can't get warm, then burning up, mood swings from hell, character changes, the list is endless :-( I am now trying a 'Paleo Diet') its not actually a 'Diet' I am eating more than ever, and only eat Organic veg, Free Range Grass reared meat, which I buy from 'Soil Association Certified Farmers Markets'. I am following 'Robb Wolf The Paleo Solution' book. He is a Bio Chemist, and explains what certain food's do to your body, and what to eat and avoid big time!! Its helped greatly with long time Bowel issues I suffered with, and I never cooked my meet well, only poultry and pork meat as these have to be fully cooked. I also only eat, Dry Hung Bacon as this contains no nitrates or any additives at all. You can adapt it to suit yourself and I eat four good sized meals a day plus lots of 'Bone Broth' I avoid the 'Night Shade' Family (Google 'Night Shade Foods) completely, no fruit, and no nuts as much as I love nuts and fruit, they don't like me at all!! : -) I got my own health shop in my home due to the amount of stuff I have bought and tried, the only supplements I now take is, Vit D, 20. 000 ius (International units) a Probiotic, Healthy Origins 3o billion CFU's, on an empty stomach, Now Super Enzymes, after all meal's, half a tea spoon of Magnesium Citrate twice a day after food, AM and PM, MSM, I started off with half a level tea spoon (Morning only as too late in the day I can't sleep, but MSM is known to keep you awake if you take it late afternoon or evening) and I now take a heaped Table spoon worked up to over a month AM and the next no later than 2PM. That's two Table spoons a day. I flash fry any other meat so it's very rare, slightly browned each side and seal the edges, steam Fish, and Veg and also use a slow cooker (Crock Pot) you can do Broth's, Bake, Roast, Soup, anything in a slow cooker. I also try and cook and freeze as much as I can in advance, and prepare Salads in advance and leave them in the Fridge, I juice using a Masticating juicer, or you can use a blender with a drop of Distilled Water, or Bottled Spring Water (just enough to cover a quarter of the veg) blend it then strain it, I save the Fiber from juicing and add it to soups or where ever I need fiber. If you use Bottled Spring Water, look at the bottom of the bottle, there is a Triangle, in the Triangle is a number, from one to five, make sure it's one in the Triangle and no higher. I nebulize and drink Colloidal silver straight, Nebulize for 5 mins breathe deep, hold for 5 seconds and breathe out, it may make you cough at first, but this will pass after a few uses and is not a problem. 2 table spoons of Colloidal Silver I make myself, use a plastic spoon to measure, ( NEVER any Metal and store it away from any Electrical gadgets in a cool dark place) and NEVER add salt to the Silver if you make your own, or buy it with Salt added, this is bad!!! I drink the Silver after every meal to kill any Parasites, Mold, Fungus, Viruses, and Bacteria. Wash and Rinse all veg in water with a few drops of vinegar, or lemon juice added, this will kill any Mold, Fungus, Bacteria, and any residues that should not be there. I live on my own so I have to do what I can do for myself, and drink plenty of water too. Here is a link to Robb Wolfes web site, he explains what to avoid and eat, and you can go to paleo recipe pages for idea's there loads of things you can eat and you won't starve believe me!! I am always eating :-)

I am also doing 'Tracy Anderson' exercise from YouTube; saves money :-) you can do them sitting or lying down if you have to. Let me know how you get on. PS as I explained, the symptoms will come and go, and you will have really good days, and bad days, and they will get you with no warning, do not fear this, it's the path of healing, and you can get it while on Meds too. A lot of people don't realize that once your body gets used to anything, your Tolerance level will still rise at your steady normal dose, and you will go in to Withdrawal still, as your brain and body will crave bigger doses, DO NOT TAKE MORE!! It will not stop it, but it will add to the problem, none of the above will interfere with your Meds. And Dietary changes will also cause a Detox reaction, that's why some people do it gradually, but I went in 100% as I have been ill for so long. Another thing, use Coconut oil for frying or roasting, and never heat Olive or Flax Oil, use these col on Salads only, once hated they become 'Carcinogenic' Cancer causing, or you can fry in Unsalted Organic Butter, Ghee is also a no no. Love Andrea C XXXXXX

Foot Pain Remedies
Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 08/16/2013

Could be you have a pinched nerve in the spine, I had three numb toes and outside of my foot was touchy, put a pillow under your thighs while sleeping and try to stay well hydrated with balanced minerals and bend backwards to open up your spine, try epsom salts bath.

Foot Pain Remedies
Posted by Steve (Las Vegas) on 08/16/2013

Try some rubbing some magnesium oil into your feet. Should reduce pain and cramping etc.

Foot Pain Remedies
Posted by Kelly (Cambridge, Ma) on 08/17/2013

If you haven't already, try Magnesium oil. There are brands that come in a spray bottle. I only paid $8.99 for mine and it's lasted me months. Spray those areas right before you get into bed. I bet you will notice a huge difference.

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by Steve (Las Vegas) on 08/14/2013

Check out magnesium oil and MSM.

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 08/15/2013

Kerry, two things that come to mind to try:

1. Epsom salt soaks.
2. Foot alignment as per at the alignedandwell website.

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by KT (Usa) on 08/15/2013

Turmeric and ginger reduce inflammation. BSM contains minerals and the B-Complex vitamins that reduces pain. Please note she will still have to watch what she eats because food is being engineered to last longer and has become difficult to digest. Raw fruits and vegetables are really hard to digest. A lot of that contributes to inflammation so finding the right balance may take some time. GMO's are in everything. Try to stay away from MSG, corn, soy and products that contain them. Sometimes I use aspirin that is not coated. It is the oldest remedy and I believe the safest.

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, USA) on 08/15/2013

Dear Kerry, So sorry about your sister's pain. I am seeing lots of good ideas from others here for you. I would agree with them. I had also been thinking about turmeric and Blackstrap molasses.

Topically, castor oil may be of help. It is good for pain and seems to draw out offending things at the same time.

Good quality peppermint essential oil topically is also really good for pain and can be healing.

Apple Cider Vinegar is also something we use for pain. Last night two of my children slept with an apple cider vinegar poultice - one to reduce the pain and swelling from a red wasp sting and another had twisted an ankle during a kickball game. Both were much improved today. I soaked a cloth in vinegar, wrapped the pained part, wrapped that in plastic wrap and then covered it with a sock. She could try wrapping her foot this way over night a few nights a week for a month and see how it goes.

Many find the Apple Cider Vinegar (raw, unpasteurized) to help pain when taken internally as well. 1 T. in 8 oz. Of water twice a day. With honey if desired.

Pete Escogue has a book called "Pain Free" which might be of help. Check out the reviews on amazon.

Please let us know how it goes!

~Mama to Many~

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by Alsky (Toronto) on 08/16/2013

I have been taking 5HTP for anxiety and mild depression. It has also helped with my ankle and shoulder pain as well. Best wishes

Chronic Ankle Pain Remedies
Posted by KT (USA) on 08/18/2013

I got to thinking that your sister's pain has gone on for so long it must be from something she is eating and/or drinking. Pain is inflammation and inflammation comes from nerve stimulants. Our food supply has been permeated with hidden sources of MSG that are nerve stimulants and can stimulate some nerve cells to death. There are also many things in our food supply that are harder to digest because they have been engineered to last longer (GMO's).

GMO grasses and grains are being fed to the animals we eat. GMO's are also being fed to the critters we get milk and eggs from. It is essential that you do not cook in plastic or buy milk in plastic jugs. There is no such thing as "microwaveable plastic".

Each of us are on our own as far as finding out what foods we can tolerate based on what we have eaten as we have grown up. Foods can be healing but at the same time they can be contributing to multiple ailments. Raw fruits and vegetables are no longer safe for me.

I've had to reduce my three extra large egg consumption to one or two medium. I've had to reduce my meat to only two or three ounces at a meal. I've had to reduce my grass-fed dairy cow whole milk in glass bottles to the two percent milk, in glass bottles. I sometimes dilute that, especially in the winter because the cows are being fed more corn to produce more milk. Cheese is made from this milk and sharp cheese has been reported to contibute to arthritis. I have to get butter without salt because the flowing/anti-caking agent contributes to pain. I use sea salt.

This is only a synopsis but I hope this gives you some help for your sister.

Rubbing Alcohol, Aspirin, Epsom Salts
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 10/08/2013

Gillian, check out what you are eating. Also, chew well.

Magnesium, Sea Salt Water
Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 05/01/2013
5 out of 5 stars

I had neck surgery in an emergency... I flinched and a week later had finger pain , then back pain , saw my doc and got a pain shot that didn't help , then went to ER and got x-ray and they said they couldn't find anything and gave me more pain meds and then I saw a neurosurgeon who sent me for MRI and found that when I flinched, I chipped my disc and a fragment was trapped between two disc and was paralyzing my left upper quadrant... I regularly did aerobics with weights and was VERY FIT and young with toddlers. Two weeks into this ordeal the surgeon removed the fragment and it took me months on end to recover the muscles. I couldn't push myself up on the bed with my arm, had to ROLL off the side of the bed. Now arthritis in that part of my neck.


This surgeon did three operations that week for this same condition......1990

read Dr. Batmanghelidj
read Miracle of magnesium Carolynn Dean
Lastly for overall health read Coconut cures Bruce Fife.

I have been reading 3-5 books on health a month for 30 yrs. Trying to find answers... I recommend these

Coffee Enema
Posted by Fiona (Tustin, Ca) on 03/25/2013
5 out of 5 stars

I used to cry out of pain. Arthritis, stomach ache, low memory. Even painkillers didn't help me. Everything changed when I tried a coffee enema.

About 1 minute after coffee goes into my body, pain just disappeared. It worked for headache, period pain, joint pain, just about any pain.

Posted by B From Tx (Lake Kiowa, Texas, USA) on 12/12/2012

For those who have foot pains/leg pains I have been using Arnica cream and the tiny lil Arnica pills (dissolve in mouth), also I am back to drinking Apple cider vinegar too and it helps too.. But the Arnica cream and pills are a quick fix and a great substitute for Advil, Aleve and or Tylenol.. My favorite is the Arnica cream because I take a lot of vitamins by mouth already, but sometimes I do take the lil Arnica pills too.. You can take the lil Arnica pills with the cream also.. Works for me especially at nite and with walking during the day.. I am also on a forced regiment of drinking enough water.. You know as we get older and wiser we tend to loose our tastebuds for thirst so must keep muscles, body, brains ect. hydrated!! Love this earthclinic website!!!!!!!! Hope this helps you too!!

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Anon (Anon) on 09/06/2012
5 out of 5 stars

I get sharp and aching pain in my lower legs and tight calf muscles. Also vericose veins. It comes and goes. I used to drink a lot of coffee and take asprin. Here are a few things that help:

No caffeine or soda (Coke, Pepsi).
Capsules of CoQ 10.
Ted's lemon and baking soda remedy.
An alkaline diet. Such as eating just peaches or oranges and spinache all day.
No gluten (bread, pasta, cereal, soy sauce).
Yogi brand Joint Tea. (also gets rid of headaches and fatigue) Good steeped with a teaspoon of crushed black peppercorns and drunk hot. The tea is cool mint flavored and the peppercorns are hot :)
A glass of calcium fortified soy milk, a banana and a nap.
[Curcumin supplement]. Maybe take a C and a B vitamin and some Milk Thistle with it.

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