Periodontitis Remedies

re: oil pulling-another satisfied customer!. I have been using oil pulling for about a month. A few days after I started I had a dental appt and showed early stages of gum disease (pockets that measured 6 in at least five places). They wanted me to have $1000 worth of scaling and root planing with antibiotics injected into the pockets. I told them I would think about it, knowing that I would keep oil pulling. I went to my follow up appt yesterday and I only had one pocket that was still a 6, the rest had decreased. The hygienist told me to keep doing what I'm doing so I confessed about the oil pulling which she had actually heard of and now plans to try after seeing the difference in my gums. She said anywhere she would poke them before they would bleed and now they are much better. I hope to come back later and say that my fibromyalgia is gone.

Hydrogen Peroxide cured my gum disease. Yes, cured. I had deep pockets and was bound to loose all my teeth within 5 years. I use a waterpic with diluted food grade peroxide. I also rinse with it before I brush to loosen plaque, then brush, then rinse with it again. Since then I have used peroxide for everything. I drink it, I soak in it, I even use it to water my plants and germinate seeds. Do some research and you will find that it's a cure all even for diseases we are told can't be cured.

BEE PROPOLIS TINCTURE......I BOUGHT IT A THE HEALTH FOOD STORE ..CAME HOME AND APPLIED IT TO MY GUMS SO IT COULD WORK AT NIGHT.....YIKES!!!!IT TURNED MY TEETH DARK BROWN WITH THE STICKY STUFF AND WAS HARD TO GET OFF....MY TEETH LOOKED LIKE A HALLOWEEN WITCH!!!

DID I GET THE WRONG KIND? PLEASE RESPOND AND ADVISE ME..I WOULD APPRECIATE IT....THANKS

Hi Ceci. I encountered the same problem. It isn't pretty, is it? Anyway, the solution is pretty simple. I had gotten a 50% strength B. Propolis and that's why it was so sticky. I purchased a 30% one and it was fine. Hope this helps and good luck! Gigi

Plaque removal: use 1/2 capful hydrogen peroxide in a little bit of water and swish around in your mouth after brushing.

I had been dealing with severe bleeding gums for the past 5 to 6 years, each year getting progressively worse. I knew the consequences of this continuing long term and was desperate to try every natural or otherwise remedy. I tried more toothpastes I can remember, brand name mouthwashes, “organic” whatever washes, powders, hydrogen peroxide, ACV. Nothing worked. Every day brushing my teeth was a bloody mess. I kept imagining I would lose my teeth some day and resigned to the inevitable. Until I did some research which changed my life forever. I know people are looking for a “natural” remedy on this site. I have found a couple of remedies for other ailments which worked for me, but unfortunately in this case there is nothing posted here which worked.

Let me begin by stating the obvious, which many people don't realize regarding gum diseases. The root cause of nearly all gum ailments--caries, gingivitis, bleeding gums, etc are caused by a bacterial infection in your mouth. These bacteria colonize your gums and teeth and live and multiply by consuming the food we eat, but especially sugars and carbs which is why we are told since birth how bad it is to eat sugar and not brush your teeth before going to sleep for example. The reason why gums keep deteriorating despite our best efforts to brush and use washes (and in my case, years of increased hygiene on my part) is because this is ultimately a progressive infection. Like all bacterial infections, if left untreated at the source they can and will progress towards irreparable damage. We all know some infections can kill you in days like anthrax, or slowly for 20 years like syphillis. Gum disease is like the latter. We can cure those infections and plenty more with antibiotics, so why then I thought is there no obvious treatment for gum disease which is caused by a bacterial infection in the same way? Well...it turns out there actually is a cure. It has been known since at least 2002 and since with numerous studies published by Walter J. Loesche et al. Look up "The nonsurgical treatment of patients with gum disease: results after five years.” From the article:

"RESULTS: The initial treatment benefits were sustained, as the number of teeth needing periodontal surgery or extraction was 0.06 teeth per patient after 1.1 year, 0.22 after 2.3 years, 0.51 after 3.6 years and 0.86 after 5.1 years. CONCLUSIONS: A noninvasive treatment regimen for an anaerobic infection in teeth seriously compromised by gum disease resulted in a reduced need for surgery or tooth extraction for at least five years after completion of the initial treatment"

What is the treatment? A one week course of 500mg of Metronidazole twice a day. A cheap and readily available antibiotic in since the 1960s. This cured my gum disease exactly as this study proved. 3 days after beginning treatment I noticed a reduction in blood after brushing of 75% and by day 7 there was not a drop of blood when I spit out the toothpaste for the first time in at least 5 years. I broke down and cried before I could even swish my mouth with water. I was that overcome with emotion. I literally could not believe what I was seeing. Not only has the bleeding stopped completely but the tartar buildup has gone away as the bacteria was exterminated. I did not even remember what a healthy mouth tasted and felt like anymore. You do not need to try anything else, and you do not need to get your teeth pulled out before it is actually the very last resort, which orthodontists do not tell you since they are not even aware of these studies. There is a cure for gum disease. It is called Metronidazole, and in one week it cures it. Beg your GP for a prescription or acquire some through one of the better known overseas pharmacies. It is dirt cheap. It works. It is a miracle. It has changed my life and if you've kept reading this all the way to the end and I manage to change someone else's life before it's too late and the damage is irreparable I will be happy.

To be honest, I don't know if what I have is gum disease but it's just bacteria causing a bad taste in my mouth that gets progressively worse unless I kill the bugs. I think it's due to dry mouth issues.

Anyway without getting into all that too much, I've found that tea tree oil diluted in high alcohol mouthwash does the trick. I don't know how toxic it is in this application though as I know the mouth absorbs things quite easily. Hopefully it's ok. But yes it does work about as well as chlorhexidine but without the change to sense of taste.

It's very odd because I find the high alcohol mouthwash on its own doesn't seem to work and the tea tree in water by itself doesn't seem to work either. So... I'm still experimenting!!

I am trying to find a better solution still though. Maybe hydrogen peroxide but I never had much success with that in the past. I'll try again :)

On the bright side, if you do lose all your teeth you might be protecting yourself from dementia. In former times probably most people had all their teeth removed and dementia was rare. Now we live for years with some degree of gingivitis and it's known that these gingival bacteria cross the blood-brain barrier and are associated with dementia. If, however, your teeth are in reasonable shape, do everything you can to keep those bacteria at bay by flossing, using wooden picks, water picks, etc. For a long-standing issue with an implant that has a deep pocket and is really hard to keep from being inflamed, I've found twice daily mouthwashes and coconut oil brushing most helpful, in addition to the above.

I used to get inflamed gums from gum disease and found that 1 capsule a day of bee propolis stopped it. It's also a great for flu prevention. If I feel sick I take 2 capsules a day along with echinacea and goldenseal and it works every time. I never get sick.

For bleeding gums,

you can try just putting baking soda on gums {where bleeding} for couple minutes and then rinse with water and swallow. I had bleeding gums and it did work.

I have slight gum recession which has gotten worse lately. I found out that it's because I was eating (cheating, actually! ) too much sugar! First, cut out all sugar, then start oil pulling with organic unrefined virgin coconut oil (put the glass jar in a pan of hot tap water first so some of the coconut oil melts). Put @ 1 Tablespoon in your mouth and swish it around for 15-20 minutes. Then spit it out into the waste basket (otherwise it'll clog up your plumbing pipes). Rinse well with warm water and sea salt. Search for oil pulling remedies here on the EC site for more info.

Also, when you were using the Apple Cider Vinegar, was it the organic unprocessed ("with the mother")? Did you dilute it? I'd suggest drinking ACV with Baking Soda and filtered or distilled water with a straw if you want the internal benefits. The straw will help the ACV bypass your teeth.

Apple cider vinegar for gum disease

I have been using apple cider vinegar 2 to 3 x a day in a pineapple smoothie. It tastes great and has cleaned out all pockets of plaque on my gums. I rinsed mouth out with water after drinking smoothy so I so not erode enamel on teeth. The Apple Cider Vinegar also cleans out my stomache, relaxes me due to high content of magnesium. I recently started drinking my smoothy with a straw, that way teeth are protected from enamel erosion. My dental technician was amazed at how healthy my gums and mouth looked.

Have you seen some improvement in the three weeks? Tooth pulling is so final. 20 min is usually recommended for oil pulling. Try using a different oil occasionally eg coconut, or adding essential oils to your oil pulling oil. DON'T USE TOOTHPASTE, try making a solution of bicarbonate of soda and use this with your tooth brush instead. Using it dissolved in water is not abrasive. Sea salt rinses are good too. Take large doses of vitamin C spread throughout the day. Eat foods that contain garlic. I had success with these things. Sometimes I use a solution of xylitol for a good swish. Sugar is obviously bad, but I have found going wheat free and drastically reducing carbohydrates is amazing. I would give these a try for another couple of weeks before you go to the extreme of tooth pulling. Good luck.

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~Mama to Many~

I have read you can take activated charcoal an hour before or two hours after having had medications or vitamins. I just use the two hour window.

I had oral surgery and my gums were swollen and infected . I mixed a little of 1/4 cup of my organic cold pressed olive oil , with few drops of oregano that I got the kind that is for internal use at the nauturapathic school mixed with 2 to 3 drops of dmso and left it on while I watched movie for a couple hours then then I rinsed it off and noticed a drastic change in my infected gums, I continued doing this for a few days. It was a heaven sent.

I would not accept a dentists verdict on teeth especially the gum area. Your doing everything right so far. You are addressing the microbes. That is first part. Your body is just missing some nutrient(s) to facilitate repair.

You have receding gums. It may be a collagen related problem especially if your older. If young, I'd try taking vitamin C. Have you tried Biocell Hyaluronic Acid.

I used oil pulling also and I was having good results but then I noticed that my gums were weakening probably due to my age (near 60). My gums were getting weaker and I got concerned. Biocell HA which I was using for another problem unexpectantly strengthened them. They don't even bleed like they use to. You should looked at earth clinics under receding gum also. You need to look at it from a nutrient approach.

Fight like heck to retain your teeth. Don't give up. Don't allow any dentist to put a tombstone on any of your teeth especially due to gum issues.

A few more things. Many years back, I developed sensitivity in my teeth with nothing in my mouth. any hot or cold would worsen them.

I tried using baking soda in water held in my mouth for 45 minutes a day 2 times per day. I tried that for 10 days and it was not successful. i

I decided to try 3% hydrogen peroxide and holding that in my mouth for 30 or 40 minutes 2 times per day. I would scrub the gums with the tooth brush also on and off. it was a way to massage the gums. After about 5 to 10 days - I forget exact time - my teeth sensitivity went away never to return. I wasn't even sensitive to hot or cold any more. teeth felt good.

Of course, I didn't know if it would work but it did. Whether it was the strength of the h202, the length of time I kept it in my mouth or a combination of the two that made the difference, I don't really know but it worked.

My gums would have that slight white gum burn from the 3% but it was no big deal and went away after I solved my sensitivity problem and stopped using it.

If you use dmso, i'd dilute it to 50% to 60%. This will minimize any burning. You don't want to get it on your lips either or outside of your mouth at full strength although you'll survive it if you do. DMSO is something that you get use to using thru trial and error. some people just swish it around their mouths.

I can only give you my experience. These are like tools. I am just showing you the various ways I used them or can be used.

Ultimately, how you experiment with them is up to you. Because you don't know if something is going to work, there may be some trepidation of failure ir despair from failure. That has happened with many many many health problems that I have had. When I have failure, I come up with something else to try. Ultimately after many attempts, I figure it out where things get better. Sometimes I have to fight and claw my way to success. The way to approach any possible failure is to think up new experiments to try while you hope that what your currently doing works. develop back up plans ... plan a, plan b etc.

I just want to say this website is a lifesaver! I've battled Peridontal disease for years without much luck. It's painful and expensive. I've had a bad infection on the right side of my mouth and found this website. Last night I brushed my teeth with baking soda and swished with Peroxide (1 tsp. Peroxide to 2 tbsp. Water). LOL I was fascinated with the bubbling. So I woke up this morning to my alarm clock, that hasn't happened in over a month because the pain keeps me up at night. My mouth was still sensitive but the pain in my jaw and cheekbone is long gone!!! So I had read about oil pulling and decided to try that this morning and WOW is all I can say! I pulled with 100% Vegetable Oil because I wanted to see if it would really turn white and yep, it turned a milky white color and my teeth felt so clean :) I will continue this regimen until the infection is gone then I will drop rinsing with Peroxide so it doesn't do any damage to my tissue! I've read about the bee propolis but I'm not sure what to buy or exactly how to use it, so if anyone has any tips I would love to hear them!!!

Dear Kelvin, Here are some ideas for your gum/tooth disease that should not be hard to find. One time I had pain and bleeding gums (very unusual for me) and I mixed equal parts of cayenne pepper and goldenseal powder. I brushed my teeth with these a few times during the day and before bed. I was 100% better the next day. Cayenne alone might do the trick if that is all you have on hand. Or, you could mix cayenne and garlic powder as garlic is a wonderful antibiotic. This is going to be spicy and not taste great, but it is cheap and effective! Lalitha Thomas would add myrrh powder to the cayenne and goldenseal, but I didn't have that on hand when I had my gum infection. (She wrote Ten Essential Herbs, a book I love to refer to!)

Clove powder is also great for mouth infections. You could mix that with the cayenne. It also helps with the pain. Brush the teeth with whatever you do every couple of hours the first day. If you see improvement, brush every 4 hours. Keep up the brushing with the powder at least once a day after improvement for several days to prevent it from returning.

If your mouth infection is really bad, you can take 1 clove of crushed fresh garlic internally 4x a day, in addition to the brushing. This is a wonderful and very effective natural antibiotic.

Activated charcoal powder or tablets can be used for mouth infections. You can brush with the powder or you can put the tablet against the infected area.

Thyme and sage (the spices in your cabinet) can be combined, a pinch each, and put into a small bit of paper towel or coffee filter and used as a poultice against the infected area. I have used this to heal canker sores very quickly.

Drinking lots of water is helpful to flush infection out of the body. Avoiding sugar and soda at this time would probably be very helpful.

Let us know what helps you!! I hope you find relief soon.

~Mama to Many~

What with one thing and another I avoided the dentist for 5 years. When I finally went, I was told I had periodontal disease with pockets mainly in the 3-4 range, and a few 5s. I had the lower half of my mouth deep cleaned. For financial reasons I didn't return for the second half of my cleaning for 2 months and in the mean time I oil pulled every morning and did a number of other things as well. When I returned this afternoon I asked her to remeasure a few of my pockets. She checked the lower half of my mouth -- she didn't look at all of them but every pocket she checked had gone down a size, and a 5 had gone down to a 3. She was very pleased. I asked her to check the top (uncleaned) half of my mouth and she did, strictly to be nice, and discovered that although the gums were still inflamed, the pockets there had also gone down a size, something she characterized as very surprising.

I've done a number of things, which I'll detail, which I hope were helpful, but I mainly credit the oil pulling for this.

Oil Pulling -- swapping between sunflower and sesame when I run out of a bottle --

Vitamin C -- I've gone from never using it to 1 - 2 grams a day, more if I think of it, which I usually don't.

I made a mouthwash recipie I found on the web: 1tbspn Echinacea tincture; .5 tbspn Oregon Grape Root tincture; .25 tbspn Plantain and Propolis tincture -- combine, add a dropperful to a tbspn water, swish in your mouth 20 seconds after brushing then spit out -- I've done this intermittently.

-- Swapped out my toothpaste for a toothpowder made from 2 tbspn baking soda, and 1 tsp each: salt, myrrh, prickly ash bark, white oak bark -- all ground up in a spice grinder.

And I've been trying to drink blackberry leaf tea (good for the gums) and a tea made from White oak bark, lemon grass, and yerba santa.

Also once a day flossing of course.

I was flossing regularly, brushing with baking soda, rinsing with peroxide but two weeks ago my gum started to bleed profusely at one particular spot. I could not understand why this was happening. Someone told me about aloe vera for gum health. I had some aloe vera gel at home and I started to brush with the gel and toothpaste for sensitive teeth. I also got a mouthwash with the aloe vera as the main ingredient and started to use that since last Friday. Today is Tuesday and the bleeding is significantly less. I also did a reasearch on aloe vera and gum health and found out that it helps to keep the mouth and gums healthy. I am going to continue to use this method for my mouth care. I have also started to drink aloe vera juice as I has many health benefits.

I started oil pulling with ____ Coconut Oil about 10 days ago after my first visit with the dentist. I had a bad case of gingivitis; bleeding gums and was about to lose a molar, and was going to need a heavy duty cleaning. The dentist prescribed an alcohol-based mouthwash to use twice a day, which I really didn't want to use. A co-worker mentioned oil pulling so I researched it and then bought a jar of ____ Coconut Oil.

Long story short, I went back to the dentist last night and he was absolutely amazed on how my gums looked. He said he couldn't tell I had periodontal disease just by looking at my mouth, only by x-rays taken the week prior. The gingivitis had cleared up that much in just 9 days! I have been pulling only once a day every day and some days a 2nd time. No more gum bleeding either! I am thrilled with the results. I can't wait to hear what he has to say when I go back in 2 weeks!!

Mary, Now that a year has gone by, how are your teeth? Is oil pulling with coconut oil still something I should look into?

OK so I just thought I'd write an update. It's been about 2 months since I started oil pulling, I switched to coconut oil after my sunflower oil ran out and I now seem to have some days where my teeth and gums feel better. Some days though I wonder if it's my imagination. I'm going to keep trying and guess that in a couple more months I might start to notice more of an improvement. Baby steps... By the way, I do prefer the coconut oil.

Hi to everyone out there looking for a cure to your periodontitus! I recently had an ache in my mouth, the first dentist wanted me to root canal or extract but she said I neded to see an oral surgeon for that. Well, after I left there I called a few dentists up to see if they could extract. I couldnt get an appointment until the next day so I went a whole night in pain.

The next day the dentist examined the same xray and told me my teeth shouldnt be causing me this much pain because even though I had cavities back there the the teeth were savable, even without a root canal. I found out I had semi-periodontitus. The pain was coming from a gap formed in my mouth between my tooth and gums which was caused by infection in my mouth. After a long talk with him about expensive dentist plans, and how he didnt want to extract my tooth, I went home with 2 fillings, anti biotics, and pain that came back after the numbing died down. Thankfully by the grace of God my friend from missouri called me up and he told me about oregano oil, and clove bud oil used as a natural anti-fungal, and natural anti-septic that he had been using to ease pain in his mouth. After he told me surf the web on it I did. And as I read about the oils, I heard about oil-pulling! I was jumping up for joy when I heard the numerous testimonies of how oil pulling cured periodintitus. I somewhat believed it because ive been learning alot about natural and organic foods and cures for about a year now and it is proven that nothing works better for mankinds symptons and sicknessess like the natural products that God created for us to take care of us. He has proved Himself in the past and I was very excited to see how He would help me in this case.

Well, only 2 weeks later of oil pulling and my gap has closed TREMENDOUSLY! Swishing sesame seed oil in my mouth for bout 20 minutes, brushing with some baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, and oregano oil, and my mouth feels great! My gums are so much more firmer now as well!!! This stuff is legit. And it has many solid purposes. It actually removes toxins from your body and can cure many sicknessess. Thank you God so much for your perfect wisdom and mercy on us!

Receding Gumline

I love this site!!! And I love Ted's cures!! I wanted to add something that I haven't seen mentioned...a retired dentist told me this about receding gums...something no one ever told me at the Dental Office ($$) that I go to...he said DON'T use an electric toothbrush, it is too rough on the delicate gumline, he said use a soft toothbrush and only brush down on your upper teeth and only brush up on your lower teeth. He said if you brush up and down you force food particles into your already sick gumline! DUH!! What a genius! It made perfect sense to me. I have been doing this for about 6 months and my gums are so much better. It is very hard to break the old scrubbing habit though! and then I think of all the money I wasted on the electric toothbrush that the dental office sold me! Just started oil pulling too. Did I say---I love this site!!