Natural Cures for Atrial Fibrillation

HEART PROCEDURE SCHEDULED HI U OLE PATOOTS,,,,,,,,,,,,,, who said I can't be charming. Met with my electrical cardiologist yesterday and he agreed to go with my heart ablation if I get through the rigors of a few tests. He agreed to this after I have given him a pint of my Tractor Driver's Blackberry Jelly. The Louisiana Cajuns call it Lagniappe. It is a gift for someone when you visit. The thing about garden stuff is that most folks know it's value is in the toil it took to give it to you. I have done this my entire life and the treat comes back ten fold. The bible tells us that. The Rxs have my AFIB under control, but I feel like I've been run over by a Mac truck since taking all these pills. My dad had AFIB because he had destroyed his lungs smoking and he could not get enough oxygen. Back in those days when he went into AFIB and could not get out, then old doc Ranier came to our house and took a handkerchief and tried to pull his tongue out. Sometimes that worked. If not, then he took his thumbs and pushed on his eyeballs. Sometimes that worked. If not , then he stood him up in front of a bed and hit him in the heart as hard as he could with his fist. That always worked. Dad never went to the ER for AFIB because there was no ER in those days.. Ole Doc Ranier just came to the house. Dad's demise was a stroke following an AFIB. I told my doctor that I had done a lot of research before selecting him. He wanted to know what I had found. You got A+ on skills, but do not have good bedside manners. He laughed and said that applied to most all doctors. I did not tell him that is the reason most of my doctors are women. They listen. As all know I have tried to solve my ails naturally over the years. But sometimes you need to see a doctor. This was my time to do so. ====ORH====

I suggest check in with a good osteopath (the Canadian kind osteopathic manual practitioner, not the US kind, essentially a doctor) or chiropractor. There will be stuff going on in the spine that influences or interferes with the electrical signalling. See: BMJ (I think about 1984) - a somatic component to myocardial infarction and New Scientist: high blood pressure is a pain in the neck. Of course, just because there is a connection doesn't mean every chiro and every osteo can sort it safely. These are special skills. So be sure to get a recommendation first. Also look up Dr Carolyn Dean - remineralise your heart

Trish,,,,,,,,, I have learned that AFIB and H Pylori are hand and glove. Ozonated water will kill that bacteria. Just learned this, but I am too far along to turn back now. Also, I think everyone is over looking UBI , which was used before antibiotics. Ablation may stop my misery, but it does not solve my problem. We have a bugger bear that is just now becoming known. Go to any hospital and the people are not real. We have a someone messing with us and it has to be through our food . It has to be a bright individual who wants to control the world. That used to be the military folks........ now it is the pencil neck nerds. ====ORH====

I noticed another person leaving a post also in TN mention something about this parasite in TN after the water system was cleared. I believe it was on a borax post.

Parasites also can cause atrial fib.

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nothing is working on my AFIB problem, so I have a plan. My main guy tells me now that I need an arterial gram. I see him in two weeks and will agree with that even though I tested zero 7 years ago and have continued my EDTA CHELATIONS. This is all BS, but what you have to go through to solve your problem. If I have no pluggage then , I want an electrical MD involved. My problem is electrical . This is a a heck of a note when you have to solve you own medical problem. I have been down this trail for some 10 years. It has been one helluva pissin contest. My guy says he can solve the problem with drugs. He may can, but an electrical solution may solve the problem permanently and over night. I go Monday and talk to my Nurse RATCHET. I have found the women listen and men don't. My Tractor Driver is going with me because my life is getting about as interesting as I can stand. Hey, I have lived a full life and me and the Lord gee haw. If i go out............ then I go to a better place. ====ORH=====

Hello ORH. I just had two AFibs while in hospital for vertigo. Thankfully I was there, but, I do like looking for natural helps while I'm out. I'm on Metoprolol for now, but, I take basic vitamins everyday A, B12, C1000, D3 and Omega 3s, and I also take Magnesium Citrate (listed above) as well. Having a whole-food only diet may help too. Wish you the best.

Hi There again ORH and EC, I found Bill Thompson's post on Fulvic Acid and noticed he used Iodine when taking Fulvic Acid to even things out. That may be key to successful use. Here is his post. Bill from San Fernando, Philippines March 14, 2013 at 8:15 am Hi Lauren… I use humic/fulvic acid on a weekly basis. I also just buy it from the garden center as granules or powder because its way cheaper than buying the organic or edible “standardized” forms. To make the drink I just add a small amount of Humic Acid to water so that the water has a light brown see-through appearance(not black). I also always add a small amount of sodium bicarbonate to make the water alkaline. Then I just add a few drops of lugols iodine or a few drops of 10% sodium thiosulphate to remove any heavy metals and bad halogens and then just drink it like that. Humic acid is just 75 million year old plant humus that has been broken down by enzymes and has also had high thermodynamic pressure applied to it because it is found compacted in rock strata. Humic Acid makes body metabolism much more efficient, it is a wonderful detoxer of poisons and also has strong anti-viral action.

ORH, I just want to add to my previous post that I use a liquid Fulvic Acid. The bottle says, "Fulvic Acid Minerals. HisJewel

Greetings ORH, "Ole Robert Henry, You are smarter than you think, it just that there's always more to learn, after we learn. My worst dealings with AFIB almost always happen soon After I EAT a high carb meal. Especially eat out, fries, smoothies coffee, donuts etc. The Magnesium, and potassium helps to slow down and regulate my heart beat. And I found out that if I take fulvic acid just a drop or three in water helps me tremendously to avoid AFIB, but I had to start with a half drop for at least a week. the brand I ordered is strong. HisJewel

YEP IT'S ME AGAIN,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you follow this thread you wii find that for a few years , I have all the answers and then for a few years , I don't know sheet. That's the way us humans are. We 'bout half smart. Right now I feel very dumb. ====ORH====

AFIB,,,,,,,,,,, too vain to tell you birds how I ended up a day in ER and two days in ICU. I got a problem far more serious than I once thought. On Tues my blood pressure and pulse went out the roof and my cayenne extract trick would not work. Finally, I capitulated and went to the ER in Athens, Tn. For about 5 hours neither, I nor the medically folks, could make it move. My pulse had has a mind of its own. It stayed at 180 full time for about 5 hours. I thought I was a goner. The rest would end up all on my ATS', but still no conclusion, so I won't go into that. What is so amazing to me is that anything now sends my pulse to 180, but it comes right back down. It does not stay up. If any of you ole patoots have a clue, I'd appreciate the knowledge. I got a feeling that I am a stressed out old geezer and just needs to turn off the TV, computer, EC and go fishing. ====ORH====

A fib:

Wear a snug belt at the naval level. It stops it.

TONYA, if my Tractor Driver will allow, I kiss you right in the mouth. I will try this, because nothing I do is working. Thank you.

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Re Afib:

I was having terrible afib and palpitations. I have no other health issues and have been doctor free for 30 years. I started 500mgs of magnesium glycinate and 200mgs CoQ10 and within 48 hrs, my heart had regulated.

Anyone having misfiring of the heart needs to balance electrolytes.

HI U OLE PATOOTS, ORH here, and I must have dyslexia because I can't read. Did more research and AFIB disqualifies you for EECP. Thought that was my solution for my AFIB problem. Hey, not a problem. I am a trouble shooter and will wear this thing out, if I don't go out first. I tell all to read and need to take that advice myslf. ====ORH====

I was reading earlier about Wright Salt by Tahoma Clinic, Jonathan Wright. I think it was saying for treating afib...It might be a tree to bark up. Blessings, Charity

HI U BOB, ORH here, thank you for this post. I am at my wits end. My med folks told me that I would not die, but just wish I had because taking their Rx results in a low quality of life. I stopped all but the blood thinner because I rather die than feel like that. Am considering doing the ECCP thing. The KAATSU system I bought, does not seem to be helping, but I am not doing it 2X a day like they said. I planned on the plug-gage thing, but did not know about this electrical thing. I have explained that my Vagus vein is crimped so they can't get the welding machine to my heart to scar it and stop the AFIB. Now my guy says he can use a stiffer wire and force the vein to open. AYSM? You are playing with my life and not yours. Getting a lot of crap from Vanderbilt but they, like football teams, have first stringers and 3 stringers. I am not interested in the B team. Bob, that is the reason I write interesting stories. I have been down some dusty trails and can spin a yarn. ==ORH==

To thin the blood and regulate coagulation use concentrated garlic oil gel`s + Fish oils, my personal choice is krill oil or cod liver oil / add these oils to regulate coagulation & general heart health,

Real olive oil, just a teaspoon a week has been shown to balance out the blood coagulation / clotting + 100% pure cold pressed Coconut oil excellent for heart health + Macadamia nut oil as a supplement 1 tbs. daily + you can cook with it to but it is expensive and oil is not needed except for veggies. Another thing I just started is to make a cup of tea with the following Tea of choice + 1 tbs. of ACV + 1 tbs. honey of choice + small amount of real powered stevia ** The liquid is no good tastes awful and not sweet ** 1 capsule of Ceylon Cinnamon 500mg ** Supplement but has multi use **.

I have constant A.Fib and related problems like high blood pressure but after taking the Tea Concoction I noticed that the A Fib improves along with Blood Pressure, this will help regulate blood sugar but works better with a TBS. of Black Seed oil for the Type 2 Diabetes or Pre Diabetes and hydration,

I don`t get dry mouth or leg cramps. I too was taking the same meds mentioned with the same results meaning only it did not work and made everything worse.The reason I only go to a doctor if something natural won`t work, so far so good and no flu shot and no flu this year either, long story about this & something else that vaccines should have prevented but did not, I got the measles anyway 3-4 times as a adult.

My first time was right after I got the measles shot in the 60`s then 3 more times as a adult around 30...Ps. If you take anything try to get it in liquid form or ionic form it gets 100% absorbed within 5 minutes unlike pills.

HI U OLE PATOOTS, ORH here, reads alot and thinks. Read a few days back that cold water to your face will settle your Vagus nerve and calm down your AFIB. I's SJS, so I decided to do that with ice packs. Guess what neighbor........ it works. With my condition, I feel bad all the time. When I do the ice thing, then I am good to go. Working with my KAATSU guys on my heart problem. They cautioned me to go slow with their restricted blood flow program. Meet our friends at the farm in the morning to pick the rest of our corn. This will be probably 4 or 5 bushels. We will shuck it at the farm and put it up as cream corn in the freezer. We once tried to raise 4 planting of corn but that is hard work. We now only do two plantings. Pulled up our pinto beans the other day and have dried them. Normally we freeze them but running out of room. Purple Hull peas are blooming and will be ready to pick in a week or so. Am a sorry guy and bought a pea sheller a few years ago. Got to turn the crank, but is bettern your finger nails. Friends, when you work with the earth, you get a totally different attitude toward nature. I have little empathy with tree huggers. Most just talk the walk. I promise you that I have planted far more trees than these folks. Won't say what I want to say because I'm on a tight rope with D, and lots of EC folks think I am not a good guy. I beat my wife, etc. What most don't understand is that she can whip my fanny any day of the week. I told you she was a tough hide. Is life interesting or what? ====ORH====

Infection Causing AFIB.

I have been overseeing the care of a dying parent the last 6 months.

Anxiety, hospitals, caregivers not doing their jobs and zero communication between shift changes, etc.Those of who have gone through this know exactly what I mean. I would go all day on black coffee then get home and gobble down food so fast it would sometimes get stuck in my food pipe, which is ironic because I am a notoriously slow eater. It was all natural foods, mainly cashews, almond, seeds, squash, apples, etc. I had been suffering from mild diverticulitis and a small hiatal hernia for several weeks with pain in left abdomen and just below center ribs.

The last few weeks had been having mild tachycardia episodes of 115 - 130, skipping and fluttering which I attributed strictly to anxiety. You should also know that my normal resting heart rate is 45 - 55 with no standing dizzy or any negative symptoms, just normal.

One evening I came home and gobbled down spaghetti squash, fried onions and a raw jalapano pepper. The pepper had been frozen for about a year and I usually boil them in soup. When I ate this one raw I did notice the seeds and inside were all black but I gobbled it down anyway. About an hour later I developed severe pains in those two areas and was sweating and my forehead was hot. The pains would travel as stinging lines up through my chest, shoulders and neck. I tried my usual raw horseradish for gut problems but it did not work. I suffered through the fever, pain and tachycardia for several days. My resting heart rate was now continuous at 115 -130. I was having drenching night sweats.

I tried all the natural antibacterials like pau d arco, olive leaf, oregano oil, tea tree, etc etc. Then I ate some raw garlic slices and almost instantly all symptoms reduced dramatically. I could feel the garlic working. After 3 days of eating 4-5 cloves of garlic a day I woke up with my head cool, no pains and absolutely NO AFIB. That was 3 weeks ago and my heart rate has been rock steady every since. And my entire gut feels natural.

FINDINGS: I believe I had been suffering from mild bacterial diverticulitis and inflamed/infected hiatal hernia for some time. Also I think the raw jalapeno pepper was contaminated with salmonella or some other pathogen. I believe my AFIB had nothing to do with diet or anxiety, but strictly from a pathogen infection.

CONCLUSION:

YOU HAVE TO MATCH THE TREATMENT TO THE PATHOGEN.

The correct treatment will react immediately.

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,, most have heard my stories about Cayenne Extract and the heart. These two are new because when they happened when I was on a sabbatical from EC last year. The first one happened in our Anti-Aging Doctors office when my heart went crazy when the nurse was taking my blood pressure. The nurse, nor the doctor knew what to do. I told my Tractor Driver to go to the car and get my Cayenne Extract. Told the nurse to get me half a glass of hot water. Added 6 drops and my heart was back to normal within 10 minutes. Never been to med school, but I read. The next episode was in my Cardiologist's office and same song but second verse. They told me that they were going to call 911 and send me to ParkWest emergency room in Knoxville. Told them to hold their mule and sent my tractor driver back to the car. By the way, I keep my cayenne extract in my gun bag because this day and time I always have my gun with me. They could not believe their eyes. No ambulance scene, just a glass of hot water with Cayenne.

Here's the problem. I read this some 20 years ago in a book written by an old country doctor in NC. If I know this, then why does not our doctors, especially our heart doctors. They don't want to know it. Too simple and too cheap. Need a high $$$ scene of a person dying, lights flashing etc.etc.

The Mexican people do not have heart problems because they spice all their food with Cayenne. Yep, they have heart problems when the come here and eat what we eat.

So here is my admonition...... buy you Cayenne Extract and keep it at your side day and night. The Lord says you can't work your way into heaven. For some reason, I keep trying.

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So for myself, AFIB is DEFINITELY caused by chemical exposure. I NEVER EVER had heart issues of any kind. Until about 6 years. Actually, that's not correct I had 2 AFIB episodes 20 yrs that put me in the hospital. I was in my hubbies auto shop. They were one more treatment away from putting me to sleep and shocking my heart. After those 2, I didn't have another episode until 6 yrs ago.

I finally began to notice a pattern. On the days I would help my husband in his shop, it would happen then. Sometimes while I was in the shop with him, others later that day.

I then noticed when I put on certain perfumes in the morning, by the time I was walking into work, my heart beat would start to skip and jump. Another time I was getting a pedicure. While I was looking at the nail polish colors, trying to choose, my heart did a backflip. It landed with a hard THUD. I wasn't sure it was going to start pumping again. It did.

Hugging people with perfumes and lotions on can do it. NOW, my latest thing I'm reacting to is laundry soap products!!! In particular fabric softeners. Same thing makes my heart race and skip.

About 2 yrs into this, I was diagnosed with MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY. I had heard of it before, but kind thought it was sort of crazy that people could pass out, get dizzy and shake let alone get AFIB from being around everyday chemicals. In fact, just tiny amounts can set me off. So about a yr ago, a friend of mine developed AFIB. She knows all about my thots on AFIB and chemicals.

It wasn't until she was desperate that she started paying attention to her surroundings and looking for PATTERNS of WHEN and maybe WHY these AFIB episodes were happening. I quit drinking coffee first off. I only ever had 2 SUPER STRONG cups a day.
( prob = to 4 cups lol) I never was a pop drinker. That didn't affect it at all. But I did fall asleep easier. That was nice.

My friend would get these attacks ALMOST every morning. Turned out it was from the stuff she used to clean the kitchen counters off with after feeding the kids. This product was also used at work. Chemical sensitivity is a weird thing. Some get it from being exposed in a big way from something like pesticides. Others develop MCS from mold. Mold in ur home or work place. U may not know it's even there. But if the windows get condensation on them, u have mold spores in ur home. Products u have used all ur life with no problem can suddenly become a problem. MCS symptoms don't ALWAYS involve AFIB, but for a decent percentage of us, it does. Some people never figure why chemicals all of a sudden r affecting them. Even the flea drops used on pets can set me off, just being in the same room. The neighbor spraying her roses. The other neighbors having their lawn treated for bugs and weeds. THAT GETS ME BAD!!
Shaking a man hands that used them to put on cologne or aftershave can start it.

USUALLY, if I can get away, wash my face and hands, sometimes I need to change my clothing too, will get it to start calming down. Then stop. I'm SO grateful I figured this out. Yes, it means I have to avoid a lot of things and have had to quit getting my toenails done, lol. I use vinegar and water to clean with and TIDE free. No scents. If u were to actually look at the ingredients used in these products, it's shocking. Even more shocking is these companies and perfume co. r the worst, they r not required to LIST what is used to make them. almost everything chemical wise starts with petroleum-based chemicals! I read that formaldehyde was first used in perfumes to make the scent last longer. Formaldehyde comes in many different names. It's in a ton of stuff. I also think that SOME people that have been diagnosed with panic attacks r actually having a reaction to a chemical(s). to figure it out, I had to REALLy pay attention to what I was doing and what was around me.

One last thing about MCS. It's NOT the smell people react to, it certain chemicals that make up that smell.
One would think the FDA and EPA watches out for us. But... they really don't. they r biased.
Our bodies r like buckets. One day, we just get full.
Ok. That's it. I HOPE this helps someone. It has been a 100 percent turn around for me. It took some time to understand what I react too. Most of the time I can track it down now. But the learning curve for MCS can be steep. Partly cuz it's just SO HARD to believe it's real.

Hugs everyone.

Can you suggest 'brand names' of Taurine, Arginine, Magnesium, etc.

I am on Metaprololol as well as Lisinopril and Pradaxa. Still get AFib at night, regularly. Cardiologist is pushing for me to have the ablation. Really don't want to do that just yet. According to the Holter Monitor after 10 days, I seem to have more of A-Flutter than A-Fib.....

Well the big thing here is vitamins And D which act like a see saw--take one and the other goes down. This is most significant when tslking about the heart because D routes calcium to the bones. Without it you end up with calcium where you don't want it (atherosclerosis, osteoarthritis-- I think, I'm no nutritionist). Ok so that's pertinent. So when you take fish oil see if its high in A and thus lowering D. Now, this is really key and some European countries are onto it: calcium's responsible for contraction, magnesium is responsible for relaxing muscles. Low magnesium can give people palpitations or cramps, contracted muscle problems. And calcium and magnesium are a seesaw pair. If you take magnesium you lower calcium levels in the blood and vice versa. Food manufacturers are putting milk powder in just everything and it's causing such a problem with my arthritis. Now I have AFib, lately with palpitations, and I suspect a connection with the calcium. But since I'm new I haven't figured out what.

I share your hospital sentiments. Mom's cardiologist was fabulous and said: "try to keep her out of the hospital." It's not the MDs, it's the nurses and others!

This is interesting and very helpful. What are baby leaves, this is not something I recognise.

Many thanks

I would like to know if you all have major shortness of breath especially on laying down and coughing. I have a relative who is suffering now with Afib and I am not sure what else. Started with cold upper respiratory bug and his afib went wild. Can hardly breathe at times. Miserable and can hardly sleep. Has sleep apnea but has not been able to get used to the cpap. We have seen two regular doctors and went to Er last week. They started him on a drug to slow heart and made him feel like he was dying he said so he quit it. Now he is miserable. Wakes up after stopping breathing in the night. He is a diabetic also and on all kinds of pills for it and HBP. What can I do.

Many a true word was spoken in jest.

I also take about 800mg divided doses of magnesium throughout the day. Two things I have just started again. Iodine protocol, but starting slow so it doesn't set off my A-fib, and the Dr. Budwig. Read her book. Amazing. The flax seed oil gets your electrical circuits going in your body again. Have to eat healthy, no meats or butter or any other oil. I just started a week ago. It's suppose to cure cancer and any other issues, including heart palpitations.

Thanks, I'll try that Dave!! I didn't have any infection that I was aware of. Hadn't been sick either. This is all very stressful in itself.

My arrhythmia and heart palpitations start with any alcohol, caffeine, chocolate, wheat, sugar, anything fermented, vinegars. It's just crazy. I know if I get low on magnesium, zinc, dehydrated at all, forget to take some extra sea salt, get hot, or I sweat.... I'm going into afib.

I agree with you that after 10years I have learned my body and it's difficulty about digestion. When I get into AFIB it is the food and indigestion and acidic gut, enlarged liver suppresing the vagus nerve. So I take gas x, aloevera, sodiumbicarbonate, manuka honey, org. apple cider to convert my gut system to alkaline state that heath goes back to sinus mode. I also gave up on beans, sugar, gas forming foods even vegetables.I take mag-taurine- K, Bcomplex, Vit D, CoQ ubiniqual 100, many other supplements. Please get your calcium levels checked. I wish you all good health and it is in our hands...

If your A-fib is caused by overstimulation of the Vegas nerve vs. faulty heart valves, you will get A-fib typically during the night and when your turn on your left side. I have the similar problems. I'm still trying to unravel. I hooked up with a Naturopath, who could look at all of me to try to unravel this mystery. Other factors could be adrenal fatigue and thyroid dx.

Yes, if you do not have heart valve problems, then your A-fib maybe caused by a faulty electrical system and your Vagus nerve, which wanders through your body. I got mine after menopause and it was occasion

Same thing with me. I was terrified but did not even have burns or anything. Just the oval marks of the electrodes of the cardiovert.

We now know that genetically modified foods and glyphosate from spraying Consuming roundup/glyphosate is extremely harmful to our cells. G.M.O.s are not labelled so one has to ensure that you aren't consuming these in condiments, etc. Almost all corn and soy grown in the U.S. and Canada is now g.m.o. You will find corn syrup in many commercial foods. If one wants to eliminate inflammation from the body, one seriously needs to consider a g.m.o.- and glyphosate-free diet. This is crucial for health. Although organic is more expensive, when you consider how expensive is medications and Dr. fees, it makes perfect sense to eat clean.

Slullcap tincture definitely helps with A Fib symptoms - I don't take it every day because it makes me hungry for some reason, I just take it when my symptoms flare up and it helps - Skullcap and also magnesium chloride liquid.

Be careful with colloidal silver! I have used it on and off for many years. Last year I took 1 oz of 30ppm Colloidal silver twice a day to try to cure a urinary infection. Within a few days I had pressure feelings in my chest. It was Afib which soon became tachycardia. After about 3 days in the hospital and all the heart meds the cardiologist could throw at me, my heart went back to normal rhythm on its own in my opinion. The doctors, of course, did not know anything about colloidal silver or believe that it had anything to do with the Afib. Weeks after being discharged from the hospital, I had another urinary tract infection which was MRSA. My Doctor prescribed an antibiotic that cured it. To prevent re-occurrence, I again took colloidal silver (20 mL of 30ppm) daily for 1 year; it worked. Then I had a re-occurrence of Shingles and was prescribed Acyclovir and Tramadol (both list Afib as a possible side effect). I was not eating well or consuming enough water. After 1 week on the Acyclovir and Tramadol, I got Afib again. After a few days in the hospital and a different heart doctor and a different batch of meds thrown at me my heart slowed down but was in Atrial Flutter instead of Afib. The doctor persuaded me to have cardioversion which worked after the 2nd shock. In my opinion, both Afib attacks were because of taking colloidal silver, my age of 73, and side effects of medications; I do not have any other heart problems.

Be careful recommending coconut oil- it can cause heart palps in some people - read the side effects reviews of it on earth clinic.

I had the very same experience with cardio version. No pain, and no adverse reactions. Done in February 2017 and still in Sinus Rhythm in August. I have not been able to take either of the drugs to help maintain SR because of side effects. (Tikosyn and don't remember what the other was) but thank God I am still in SR. I do take a product called Kroeger Circu Flow and read somewhere on here that a person taking it felt that that helped. I was taking it before to help clear my arteries which I believe it did. The doctor told me I have no significant blockage. I continue taking it in hopes that it helps keep me in SR.

HI U CAROLYN,,,,,,,,,, I have no clue and as you have read, I use a shotgun. The culprit is dead, but I don't know what shot killed it. As far as my back pain is concerned, I think the Ginger Root Extract cured my sciatica pain. Many have written about this recently. I also think the Ozone and blood platlete plasma shot helped. I think my PT helped. I use DMSO and transdermal stuff.

As far as my AFIB, I keep my blood thin with Nattokinase, I take my Rx, and I try to chill out. I also use my CPAC at night. None of this crap happened until I got old. That is my admonition...... don't get old. When you get old you got lots of stories to tell, but no solutions.

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Hi there ORH, I have been on this site for a while and really enjoy your posts. Just saw a video from Dr. Gliddon on AFIB and he says the cause is the nerves from the T4 vertebrae being compromised somehow. Since you had that injury years back could that still be a contributing factor? Just a thought. God bless you and thank you for all your wonderful advice!

Pat and Dave, Congrats on all your success! I do believe in our bodies ability to heal! I have developed daily proximal afib this past year after having Pac's from dealing with circulatory issues 17years of chronic lyme and mycoplasma with severe symptoms of my scalp muscle and leg spasms. Stress and monthly postmenopausal hemorrhage from altered uterine cells from chronic mycoplasma also occurred during the onset of debilitating daily afib episodes. I take Remag, ReMyte and ReAline to bowel tolerance and other supplements you mentioned but continue with issues. Do you take the Herb Calm and REMag and REMyte? What's the total taurine you take daily as the ReAline does have some? I also do biweekly acupuncture and Chinese herbs to build kidney chi after a vibrant life of 6 kids but now am homebound due to erratic unpredictable afibs (up to 250beats) that have led to passing out, head injury and convulsive syncope. My ekg is ok and blood tests normal. I am looking into ozone for the chronic issues but need to regain NSR which I do have in between serious bouts. You are an inspiration and testimony of body's ability to heal and I appreciate your sharing.Thank you!

MORGAN,,,,,,, To address my AFIB problem..... I solve most of my problems using the shotgun method. I think my problem is due to stress and sleep apnea. The way you breath is important to keep your oxygen up. I sleep in a CPAP and that has helped immensely. I take Nattokinase to keep my blood thin. I take the Rx Cartizen, Taurine, and a Hawthorne supplement and keep my cayenne extract close at hand. I also take magnesium.

I have not had a spell in several months. When I do, I try to chill out, then take 5 drops in 1/3 glass of warm water. My pulse rate drops within a few minutes. I do take lots of supplements I.e. 14,000 iu Vit B 3 /day. Wish I knew enough to help you, but can only relate what seems to work for me.

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Robert Henry.......I would be very interested to hear more about your Cayenne conversions back into Sinus Rhythm.

How many times have you converted back to SR using the oil? Any info related to this would be greatly appreciated as I currently carry Flec as a PiP (pill in pocket) solution and would love to be able to stop using it. Shocking my system with 300mg of Flec is sometimes a necessary evil for me and I would love to do away with that as a crutch.

What type of fish oil do you use?

Thank you, I will try the Bentonite! Have suspected it was a colon problem, rather than a heart problem all along!

PAT,,,,,,,,, see that you and I are on the same wave length as to the supplements we take to avoid A FIB. I do take an Rx, Cartizim, that my cardiologist prescribed, but my Integrative doctor insisted that I take until I could find a better solution. I also take Nattokinase to keep my blood thin instead of Rat Poison.

I only take cayenne when I go into A FIB. My CPAP has helped. I keep my Cayenne in my gun bag and my gun bag is with me constantly.

I have not even considered ablation because cayenne extract works for me within 5 minutes. Here is where you can buy it.

https://www.luckyvitamin.com/sb-CAYENNE-EXTRACT

Got pictures coming showing our garden that you don't want to miss. I am really concerned about the world situation. Everyone is in total rage and no one is seeking guidance from our Lord. He's going to get enough and there will be nothing left but a greasy spot. At least the folks on EC try to help their fellow man.

I wish you well.

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Hi Henry! Sounds like you know how to fix it when it comes at least! I'm starting to get better at that! But they want me to have ablation. Have you ever had one? I am not sold on that as of yet.I still believe I can "fix" it with some supplement or alternative treatment myself! Don't want them messing with my electrical system! Hawthorn, Mag, Taurine and CoQ10 have helped me also so I think there has got to be something out there that will work! I will try the cayenne when I get it and see if that shortens it! I take betablockers when I go into afib only.As they don't help to "prevent"it from coming! So I figure, Why take them otherwise?I can slow heart rate down when it comes, using them!

Blood thinners like Warafin and Coumadin all began with the herb Sweet Clover. Just get this.

JANET,,,,,, thanks for your concern. You may be right about the mold thing because me and my Tractor Driver both show up black mold in our quarterly DNA test. Our Integrative Doctor gave us homeopathic drops for that. We do live on a lake where the humidity is high. We keep a dehumidifier going full time. I wrote about us having our HVAC duct work professionally cleaned two years ago and afterward we sprayed down the entire house using a theater fogger with a GSE solution bought from Tenn Mold in Knoxville. I sent our test mold kit off and called the biologist about the mold found. He said none of the mold was the kind that cause humans grief.

I do have a Plasma Rife Machine that can address mold or fungus. Corresponded with a guy in Britain that had mites the same time I did and I told how I killed them with my IFR SAUNA. He said he had already killed his with a Rife Machine. My current problem is that I have too many health toys and there are only so many hours in a day.

I am going to print out your post and study what all the things you have done. Did I tell you that Janet is one of my top ten female names?

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ORH, a good while ago I learnt to stay away from the news. Healthier that way. It's enough what I get from the grapevine.

Robert Henry. Again I am looking at your symptoms. Mold or fungus.

This bane of my life. I think I have conquered it and bam. Another hit.

In the beginning of my journey it was a pounding racing heart that scared me to death...nearly. But having to retrace the cause everytime over these last 5 years. It is always the same.

My sensitivities expand with each exposure. The chemical sensitivities add more fun to the show as they expand and grow unchecked until I am on the floor.

In our house of six. I am mold crazy sick like kryptonite to superman. I have 5 other people. One is mold sensitive. One is on the road to meet me on the floor, two that could roll in it and not get sick. The other one is sensitive when her digestion is not optimal.

We have 3 spots in our home that had hidden mold. I have solved. We got rid of the car that had it. I drove off the road while driving it. Sitting up with eyes open listening to the radio.

Ken and I stay at hotels with swimming pools in our room. Crazy I know. The cleanest most well maintained pools and rooms I have ever seen. I never get sick and I cannot tolerate bound chlorine in pools. Allergic. But free chlorine no problem as long as I have sodium thiosulfate crystal to take.

We stayed at a different one last month. No mold smell. I was on the floor within 24 hours. The shower had 5 pinhead size black mold spots. Almost impossible to see. I did not have my ozone machine with to run before moving our stuff in. Out of nowhere bam.

This week my kids left the showerhead outside the tub. It dripped a little. Heart racing. Pounding. I had no idea. I am the bass ackwards detective. Like Sam Spade...under the hot lights questioning suspects until the the truth emerges.

My point is that this devil can be anywhere and everywhere. A garage, a mattress, even the most well maintained and clean places can get you.

My arsenal is vast as different molds create different symptoms. Often unrelatable to what I see.

Sodium molybdate 1/4 tsp or a pinch in water before food in the am. I add 1/4 tsp, a pinch of potassium carbonte to further help. The molybdate is the mold workhorse. I make this in ozonated water. The potassium cleans up and helps the heart. D3 and selenium yeast 200 mcg every morning. Again selenium is the work horse for mold. K2 or an oz of gouda cheese. This moves calcium out of circulation puts it into bones where it belongs. So we use gouda high in k2 3 days. 100mg k2 2 days equaling 5days out of seven.

Humic acid. 2 tsp in a pretty bottle on the counter with distilled liter of water 1 1/2 tsp of sea salt. Blend or shake. Leave grains at the bottom. 1 tsp or 2 of this a day in water.

Serrapeptase high strength 2x a day away from food.

Chromium I take it at night. Reduces any sugars that sneak in. Cortisol does not jump all over the place during the night.

You already know everything. But your mystery says mold to me. You know about alkalizing. You know supplements.

The other 1 heart pounding fix is topical magnesium oil right on your chest every night. I find I have to do it.

No flour foods preferable.. no grains ideally. Even just a few days to see if it is not one of the culprits.

I know ...shut up Janet. But we want you around always.

No sugar or fruictose (fruit). Makes cortisol unstable. J

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,, got my mule scared this morning when I went into A FIB and it was not caused by low oxygen due to sleep apnea. My oxygen was at 98 and my pulse was at 172. I'm exasperated that I have not found a solution to prevent this from occurring. What I do know is how to get out of the problem and that is 5 drops of cayenne extract in about 1/3 glass of warm water. That is about as hot as I can stand. The solution works in about 5 minutes.

The Rx I take is Cartizem and supplements are magnesium, hawthorn, nattokinase and taurine. I have changed from taking this in the morning to taking it at night. This is not the solution, but I can promise you that if I miss taking these, then I have a spell.... so it has to be helping. I truly believe that our stressful times are affecting me personally as I stay involved with the current news. That is just my life style and I opt not to change.

I read and almost wept when a poster related how she almost died when treated by a doctor for her A FIB problem. I have yet to read of a successful medical laser treatment. Got to go, as our football player is due to help me put out brush beds to draw crappie into our lake dock. I cheats as all know.

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Ron, I have similar condition.. Afib caused by antibiotic Levoquin. I would love to hear an update... have you conquered the afib? Please let us know.

Please have your husband ask his doctor, point blank, "how is cardio version (CV) done?", and make the doctor be specific since it's your husband's first time. I had my first one done last May. Totally not a big deal! But, I was really nervous too, at first.

What actually happened is this: 1) I was wheeled into a surgical room, given a mild IV medicine that made me sleep so I wouldn't feel anything;

2) The doctor did the CV which is basically shocking the heart for 2-5 seconds (at least for me); 3) the doc woke me up with another dose of an IV med (I think this is correct; confirm with your doctor).

The whole process lasted 5 minutes! For me this 1-time CV worked, and I've been afib-free since (knock on wood!). Also here's a link that describes CV in more detail: http://www.stopafib.org/electrical.cfm

I want to add that the CV does NOT hurt at all, and is not scary. Of course, if it's your first time you will be anxious about it. But have your doctor explain the process in a way that really makes sense to you and puts you at ease. If he doesn't, insist that he does! :-)

Could you please tell us what conversion is like and how they do it. My husband has been told he needs it but scared to do it. I don't blame him. The Dr. doesn't really explain how it is done. Does it hurt and isn't it scary?? I am sure this is expensive also. Is it worth it to try it. My husband is getting worse and worse.

I agree! Spasms in colon always was what I suspected when I first got diagnosed.But how do you stop them? Olive oil? Will that stop the spasms?

Thanks, Dave! I think I'll try the CSilver too! Have been on Mg for awhile and it helped but did not stop the afib issues.I think youre onto something about the heart virus! Will start that and see. Maybe at a little lower dose to begin? 3 tbs 3xday is alot it seems! I will let you know!

There is a homeopathic remedy for msg and you can also so take taurine after you consume any msg and it helps. Msg is a trigger for me also.

I believe that afib is often caused by spasms in the colon, which irritate the vagus nerve, which irritates the heart. It's all a web! Sometimes a few tablespoons of olive oil can quiet the colon and taurine may help. Just my experience.

I would love to know more about this. Do you have more information or a reference? I have been trying to learn more about homeopathy.

You might want to try Aconite Homeopathic 30x or c... big heart aid and can regulate the heart... said to stop some heart attacks in their tracks...

I just posted this in the Hyperthyroid section as well - I had A Fib caused by hyperthyroidism - I'm taking 10,000 mcg Biotin and from the very 1st day, it helped me tremendously! I am so much calmer now, I sleep 8- 10 hrs a night, and my heart rarely skips!

Hi Sue,

Try searching on Google with these key words "how to make probiotics made with brewer's yeast".

I am interested in the probiotic made with brewers yeast. Can anyone explain how you make that?

Hi to you all

I too hate taking prescribed drugs only because I know they will never be an answer for afib and in the end will come with their own problems, but while big pharma is in control believe me cures are not their business, so all research done is for more toxic drugs to contain this awful condition for more profit, I believe my afib is a symptom of some imbalance in the nervous system which feeds every organ of the body. I work with pumps all day long and it is no different to the heart if there is any blockages or air trap along network of pipes then it will show in the pump which can go erratic (common sense). So it is no good to keep messing with a perfectly good pump when the problem is elsewhere.

Unfortunately, we have a medical system of experts who know nothing about the human body other than their own area of so call expertise it is so frightening we have been going down the wrong road of health care for far too long, just listen to people like Dr John Bergman total common sense stuff which you would think all doctor would know, but they dont, health care now is base on fear and offer no solutions, afib is certainly based on fear, but as long as no-one is looking at the whole picture then there cannot be a permanent answer, drugs only do two things the either block or kill that's it folks!!!, our bodies are miracles and have been doing a great job keeping us healthy all our lifes, so our job is to fine out why this problem is now occurring and eliminate it, not poison it with more toxins.

To start with it is no good eating raw food diet or more greens if they are full of pesticides(toxic) it as to be organic. Get yourself a good water filter to clean the water you drink, take a good omega 3, but if you can get your nervous system checked out by a good chiropractor, If you live in the usa I recommend John Bergman, I live in the uk and I am having trouble finding a chiropractor who does a nervous system check? but always believe you can cure this don't fall into the black hole of despair, try yoga, meditation, and prayer. Don't bottle up your fears like I did for years. It will only make you ill.

Good luck,

Dave

I had a lot of trouble with A Fib for 2 1/2 years. May 21, I started mixing 1 tbsp of diatomaceous earth with water or yogurt or protein drink. 6 months later Nov 21/16 I still have not had another attack.

Prior to that I used lots of magnesium and tried valerian and cayenne but got no help from these. I urge anyone with this problem to try this method. You have nothing to lose. Very inexpensive and helps with other issues too.

Have you looked up natural blood thinners such as clove essential oil and maybe cinnamon taken per instructions for the brand and diluted appropriately for the cinnamon since it's a hot oil.

I was wondering about the vagus nerve also and what correlation it may have to A-Fib. I noticed lately when I changed positions in bed, like turning to lay on my side, the A-fib starts up. I always wait and try to move in certain positions, and even try bouncing on the bed to try to convert it back, but it never works. I have to take 4 tablets of Propafenone to convert it. That drug usually works, but I have had two cardioversions done in the hospital with the pads. I really want to find a cure for this condition, because it is always a fear I have of it.

I have the same problem. Have to avoid many foods and chocolate. No gluten and wheat. Trying to find a way of it without any medication. So frustrating.

Have you tried using a almost runny paste of Goldenseal Root? Works great on athletes foot and toenail fungus. Moisten it with water - a little goes a long way- a little less thinner than pancake batter. Spread it on the infected area, let dry completely, wash off. Great stuff!

ORH--until you get your cpap thing, try a fan. My DH has copd and the pulmonary floor is the only one with fans. The moving air prompts them to keep breathing is the theory. doesn't have to be blowing very hard.

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,, hope you have been following this old fogey's saga because you will learn some things. About 25 years ago I had my throat and nose cut out due to sleep apnea. I was not going to wear that WW ll gas masks that was used in those days.

As all know, I's smart, jus slow. When I awake in the middle of the night and my heart is racing, I check my oxygen and it is low at 93. My PT folks say they will not treat anyone whose level is 92. I have now concluded that my sleep apnea is back and I stop breathing in my sleep. If I don't address this situation then all my organs will slowly die, and then me too.

My next move is to see a sleep doctor and get one on those rigs that force you to breath at night. Is life interesting or what? Don't get old.

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Well, kind of used a doctor. No allopath doctor is interested in helping you get off meds, they dont believe in supplements and like the $$ they receive. I used a Naturalpath who was sensible allowing me time to wean off Flec and Metop over 3 months, but it can be a challenge at times. I went into AF 3 times while converting naturally.

HI U PAT,,,,,,,, I take all the supplements that you posted plus Cartizem. I also take Nattokinase because that is what my chelation doctor has his wife take for A Frib.

As all know, I's smart, jus slow. If I miss my stuff then I wake at night with A Fib and I then check my oxygen. Normally it is 98 but when my heart goes crazy, then it is down to 93. I have concluded that I quit breathing in my sleep which brings this on. No way could I wear the WW II gas mask that has been used, but I think I can live with the new nasal system.

I see a specialist in a few weeks. As usual, my advice to all is not to get old. I'm not a fan of MD's because they treat your symptoms and don't try to keep you healthy. However, sometimes you have to treat the symptoms. I think A Fib may fit in that category. No way am I going to do Rat Poison as I've said before.

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I am interested in knowing how you got off the meds...was it under supervision of a doctor? I take blood pressure meds and having bad side effects. Before my heart problems I didn't take any prescription meds.

I know this is a late blog, but I am off all meds since June including beta blocker and taking Magnesium, Hawthorn, Taurine, HeartCalm, And some other essential vitamins that I have taken forever! I also take Fish oil and Vit E to thin my blood. The Afib episodes haven't disappeared but are much slower and go away quicker(2-21/2 hrs) than they used to. Also seem to come during night when I am asleep for some reason. So all in all feeling better as I am not on rotten meds but still dealing with the monster! This is life, I guess! I don't take any meds when I get it either! Just the supplements (Taurine, Hawthorn) and it is no worse for sure! Don't want ablation as it is not a guaranteed cure and could make me worse! So until they come up with something better than that, I will do it my way! Wondering when/if I need "nattokinase" at some point? Don't know much about that! Take care, Pat

I've posted here before as a drop of clear potassium iodine in a little water really helped me. Tryptophan also helps when I get it.....about 200 mgs (not much). I also found I can completely knock it out by putting a 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water and drinking it in sips so it kind of stays in my throat. Hope this helps someone.

That's mighty impressive, ORH!

HI ALL,,,,,,,, most know I have no discipline . I have not taken my A Fib supplements and prescription drug in two days. Today it hit. I knew it right away as you get this weird feeling. I took my pulse and it was 188. I got in my easy chair and tried to chill out. I also asked my Tractor Driver to mix 5 drops of my cayenne extract into half a glass of warm water. I drank that and my pulse dropped to normal in about 10 minutes. Country doctors have know this trick for many a year.

ATS.......

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Just passed the 2 year mark of my AF summer of quitting Flec and Metop. Still in NSR without meds/allopaths and minimal supplements. Walking/Running 5-6 times a week has been a good medicine against this beast. Hows everyone else these days?

My atrial fib is caused by MSG. I knew it had to be food related when the atrial fib would occurred 6 hours after I'd eat--always when I'd eat out at certain restaurants. It is very scary and I believe now caffeine and extreme physical exertion can trigger a mild case.For the last 10-15 yrs., I have become sensitive/allergic to sulfur drugs, iodine, sodium, shellfish, dyes, etc. I still believe it has more to do with mineral deficiencies. I have figured out that I seem to do better eating a banana every day and taking magnesium. But, if I don't make sure there is no MSG in the foods every time--even at the same restaurants--I will end up with atrial fib usually around 1 or 2 a.m. Since I will usually eat with friends at night. Some restaurants hate it when I ask and I usually won't return. When this first happened and I went to the Emergency Room they almost killed me by giving me a drip with some kind of sodium. The cardiologist that saw me kept trying to put me on beta blockers but I wouldn't take them. I told him I thought it was something I ate and he thought I was crazy. I'm now with a younger Dr.and she seems to understand and will tell some of her patients about restaurants that may have msg added. I still think there is an underlying problem that causes this, though.

Leaky Gut cannot be repaired with probiotics, all that they do is crowd out pathogenic organisms that can infect the bowel and damage bowel lining. Bovine Colostrum is the only clinically proven remedy. One of its primary purposes is to provide the original introduction of beneficial bacteria and to insure their growth and colonization. Then the growth factors in colostrum can prevent and heal GI damage. Both animal and Human clinical peer reviewed studies prove its efficacy.

To Pat/Pa : I too use the Lorazapam.. low dose .. It works for me. So far has kept me from a full blown attack. More and more my attacks seem to be anxiety related... I have also noticed that any upper respiratory problem..slight cold or allergies can also make me more prone to having an attack. The magnesium is major... can't miss that. I think I'm better.. have cardio appt next week, will probably wear a holter moniter for a couple of weeks just to be sure nothing going on that I'm not aware of. A-fib is crazy weird. :/

Be careful of taking COQ10. That's a trigger for me - that and cod liver oil! Magnesium Chloride (the liquid kind) and the amino acid L-tryptophan work wonders!

Hyssop is adrenal support.

HI U LARA,,,,,,,, been down this trail for a year or so and have done some hard headed things. My Cardiologist put me on Cartizim and it worked but I stopped, because I don't like taking drugs.

My A Frb came back with a vengeance. Thought I was a goner it got so bad, especially with my self induced stress.

My integrative doctor told me that sometimes we must do drugs until we find a natural solution. Thus, I'm now back on Cartizim along with Nattokinase to keep my blood thin; Cardiac Px which contains many herbs especially Hawthorn; Taurine;

I have not had a spell since on this regimen. I also do magnesium by mouth and trans dermally.

When I really get stressed out, then I take a .5 mg Xanax.

When I get in A FIB, I drink warm water with Cayenne extract as hot as I can stand. My pulse rates goes down within a short period of time. Country doctors used this trick in the old days to keep stroke and heart attack patients from dying.

Laura, I wish you well.

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Hi my name is Laura, and been suffering from afib for about over a year, been on everything from maltac, metrol, tikison, you name it I was trying some new drug, found your web site and decided to go the natural route, been cardioverded 6 times in the last year, still as I write am in afib but not as bad, they want to now ablation, started on magnesium. I ordered some hawthorn, vitamin c, CoQ10, taurine, cayenne, am still taking warfin to keep my blood thin afraid of stroke, seems in all your conversations nobody mentions blood thinners, and in afib you're at a high risk for throwing out a clot, any feed back on this? Thanks Laura