Vitamin C
★★★★★
I had a very small spot on my nose that started to bleed and wouldn't heal so I'm pretty sure it was a basal cell. I read that some people cured there bcc with Vit C. First I tried Sodium Ascorbate paste made with water and that was going slowly. Finally I went from eating dairy everyday (lactovegetarian) to a vegan diet and tried Ascorbic Acid powder in a paste with Aloe gel. Ascorbic acid will sting unlike sodium ascorbate. The second application it started to bleed and scab, like a small dark purple scab. I think I applied it one more time after that, then I left it alone. A week later the spot is healed with no scar. For almost 3 months that spot had a mind of its own, turning red or bleeding. Now finally it looks like normal skin. Cool!
(San Juan Capistrano, Ca)
10/24/2011
I have been using buffered vitamin c on a cancerous spot. It has taken a few weeks but it is finally scabbing up and shrinking. I emptied out a buffered c capsule into a cup, wet a qtip, dipped it in it until it bubbled and put it on the spot three times a day. At first it itched, then after a week it stung a little and then it started to bleed and scab. Now it is about half the size. I'll let you know if it clears up completely.
(Detroit, Usa)
12/09/2011
(Providence, Ri)
01/25/2012
I'm going to have a biopsy on my face tomorrow. Just because I want to know what I am dealing with.
Afterwards, what do you suggest I put on it to help it heal since it will be freshly opened and 'take' a natural cure better???
I hope to avoid Moh's surgery if it is skin cancer, which I am almost sure it is. I'll have to wait about a month or two between the biopsy and the possible Moh's surgery.
Thank you!
(Asheville, Nc)
03/20/2012
I had a feeling I couldn't have treated my spot enough in my first post but because of work I let it go on for months since it wasn't too noticeable, less than 1mm and flat but then it got a little bloody one day so this is what I did. First, I'm not advising anyone to do this, I'm a DIY junkie. It matched the description for BCC but I didn't have a biopsy (my Dad is always having them burned off). The first day I cleaned it with H2O2 and put a paste of ascorbic acid. This makes the surrounding tissue very red so the second night I switched to Sodium ascorbate. After my showers I also used H202. By the 4th night I had like a raised white scab thing and I was to work on the 6th day so I quit putting vit c on. I used h202 but I didn't try to pull the white scab off because I was afraid it would look worse at work. It was an ugly blemish on the side of my nose.
By the 7th night after work the crust was real hard and I tried to pull it but it started to bleed from under it. The bleeding stopped when I washed it with H202 and I nervously went to bed (what have I done now! ?). On day 8 I took a steamy shower which softened the white dead skin and applying peroxide with an eye dropper I easily debrided the white skin leaving a clean red mark. After that I used peroxide acouple times a day which caused less and less of white exudate and now day 10 I have a non reactive spot of skin that looks pretty fabulous. You can just barely see a slightly redder color of skin where it used to be like a healed scab. I really can't believe it so I will follow up on this post periodically to say whether it comes back.
I also couldn't maintain the vegan diet from last post and had started eating dairy. I did go vegan for 10 days right before I started this treatment again but got too tired at my job and ate some cheese. (lactovegetaian 30 years). I'm gonna attempt to keep the dairy at a minimum. I must say I'm gonna feel relieved at work today that it appears I have not just made something worse! Last time I used Vit C I didn't use peroxide at all so maybe that's the key. You have to get that white bubbly growth of exudate, I don't know unfortunately, I'm just saying so far this is less painful than going to the Dr! Oh yeah, and cost less than a couple bucks. Sodium ascorbate powder is expensive but my jar was like 4 yrs old so I'm not sure it was active but it didn't look oxidized
(Oberlin, Ohio)
07/24/2012
The simplest way to remove a small basal cell carcinoma is with the head of a nail heated on the stove or with a propane torch, it does smart a bit and scars a little more than freezing it out with liquid nitrogen, but it's vastly less expensive. Just use common sense, go slow and easy, and don't thrust it violently into the skin as in some old cowboy movie.
(Nacogdoches, Tx)
04/17/2013
Alcohol and antibiotic ointment have been a successful therapy for a basal cell next to my ear that was removed and returned. Had to be the combo as each by itself was ineffective. Cleared in scalp as well. Please post.
(Hong Kong)
06/16/2014
Hi, I am delighted to hear that you are all having success with your natural treatments. I wish you all luck and health.
However, being a long time sufferer of BCC I have to say that the Mohs and plastics surgery I have had has been amazing and if you can afford it it has been a good option for me. Several of my colleagues have had large BCC removed from their faces and due to the good auspices of an american trained plastic surgeon are good as new.
The only other thing I would add is if you cure yourself please invest some $ in a biopsy to make sure. I have had a bcc "heal up" only to be active underneath requiring a 2" hole in my neck and a skin graft.
On the subject of melanoma please don't delay I have also been down that route and am still here 16 years later and have seen my kids grow up due to surgery. The prognosis isn't great if it gets out and about.
I'd love to try your cures but for me I can't take a chance with the "experiment".
With very best wishes to you all.
(Hotspot, Texas)
06/17/2014
Richard, glad that Moh's surgery has worked well for you. Many of us with BCC/SCCs end up in alt med because of recurrence.
I had a BCC removed by Moh's. The incision ran from the outer corner of my eye to the inner corner and then down my nose to below my upper lip. Caring for such a large open wound near my brain was truly terrifying.
About a month after the surgery, a new growth started up on the opposite side of my nose. Eight months after my surgery, a new growth started up right on the Moh's incision line. This is not unusual for cancer surgery patients to experience.
Moh's surgery does not guarantee skin cancer will not recurr in that spot or other spots. Like black salve, vit C, etc., it is treating the symptom, but not the cause.
My point is that conventional medicine is no better off than we are in keeping cancers from recurring. It is simply a different way of removing cancer growths. Removing them does not necessarily cure the patient of cancer.
(California, US)
10/14/2014
(Carbondale, Co)
11/06/2014
I've been using vit c, frankincense, aldera, baking soda, peroxide, castor oil. My Basal Cell Carcinoma just seems to be getting raw and bigger with little cyst looking particles. The area just seems to be getting larger and worse. Anyone tried bloodroot or have any suggestions? It's on my chin near lip so I'm truing to avoid surgery. Please help if you have any suggestions.
Julie: Try to find a salve w/ Bloodroot as one of the ingredients. I have a salve product called "Tumorgone" that contains bloodroot.
(Ten Mile, Tn.)
11/07/2014
HI U JULIE, , , , , , , , Black salve or blood root will get this but it does not know when to stop eating and will disfigure you. Please investigate Curederm, which is made from the egg plant.
http://www.curederm.com.au/skincancer/actinic.php
If you need confidence, then buy and read the book.
http://www.curadermnetwork.com/curaderm-book.html
It worked for me. =======ORH=======
(WI)
03/25/2023
I heard Bloodroot only attacks cancer cells....not healthy normal cells. This from a Dr.who used it on her breast cancer and healed herself...IDK
(Somewhere, Europe)
11/07/2014
Julie, I've tried all of those things (minus aldara) and more for over a year. Nada. So I've made an appointment for surgery, and am just leaving it alone for now. Lo and behold, it looks a wee bit better, but very crusty and flaky, so I dab on a tiny bit of virgin olive oil once in a while so that it won't look too scary. If there is any significant difference by the time surgery rolls around, I might cancel it.
What I'm thinking is that maybe, just maybe, all those things actually DID work and now it has to heal. Who knows?!
(Wnc)
11/21/2014
O.k. Here is my update. My spot that I had for years on the left side of my nose although looking like a scar where the biopsy was, I knew it wasn't right. My new biopsy came back BCC infiltrative focal pattern. Perhaps I didn't treat myself long enough with the natural treatments or even effudex. I am 9 days post MOHS. I feel very blessed that it hadn't spread further. Still Doc took out probably a centimeter or more and reconstructed the site. I was very lucky to have a skilled MOHS surgeon. she did a fine job as far as I can tell so far. Yeah, so for me for now, I'm probably going to be very vigilant about going to the Dr if something crops up.
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
★★★★☆
I decided to try Vit C sodium ascorbate and hyaluronic acid. Basically about equal part vit c and HA and then add about 8 times the water until it becomes gel like without solid crystals. It is then saturated. I try to make small batches using about 1/4 tsp vit c and HA, with normally a teaspoon and a half of purified water....sometimes 2 tsp...not exact but it gels up. There are 2 types of vit c, sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid.... supposedly your supposed to use the sodium version, although I started with the Ascorbic. The ascorbic after the first treatment turned my spot that had the tiny blisters crusty and black spotted....within 3 days it fell off.
As of now....about 11 days it has gotten a tad smaller, the blisters are gone and it has changed color to a more skin tone(normal). I can still see it...the other 2 I can barely see in bright light, but I know where they are so keep adding the vit c. Anyhow, I plan to do this for at least a month.....and I put it on at least once a day, but normally twice. I think we are supposed to do it 2 to 3 times a day.
Anyhow....that's it. I sent photos to my Mom who was rather surprised. I will check back as this progresses. Oh....I used the ascorbic acid and it seemed to work too....I started then switched as the hyaluronic recipe is actually a skin wrinkle recipe to help smooth skin. That's all I know as of now. Will check back.
(America)
03/17/2016
Hi Frozintime! Do you have BSC (baso-squamous) or plain BCC? I'm very interested in your treatment with VitC and HA. My mom got her biopsy today and it's BSC. I'm so worried, I want to find all nature ways to get rid of BSC on my mom (in parallel with MOHS and Aldara). I'm so frightened, any advice? She got MOHS, but a new pearl-like nodule appears near his nose bridge...maybe can I use Vit. C?
(Madbury, Nh)
03/18/2016
Mine are just plain Basal Cells. I am still applying the mixture as of today. I forget now and again, or only apply when I remember since they have really shrank, and I think are non aggressive now. All 3 of mine are less than half the size of original, and the color tones are almost totally normal, but they can still flare color wise for some reason. My mother gave me a lotion that indicates whether the cancer cells are active(it was a very expensive skin lotion that is used to treat skin cancers), about 2 months ago....I tried it and got no reaction which supposedly means they are not active or regenerating at this time and are most likely dead.
I would definitely try the Vit C/Hyaluronic just to see what the reaction is. If you get a reaction it is good....if not, stick with traditional Dr. and treatment. I wish I had a better guarantee, but it seemed to work for me, but I cannot say it will work on Squamous cells.
Best advice I can try....I got everything online for less than 45 dollars, and it worked for me. Best 45 I ever spent. When I showed my Mother she was completely stunned.....she couldn't believe the reaction and how well it had worked. Neither could I....good luck to you, I wish I knew or could tell you more.
(Madbury, Nh)
03/18/2016
★★★★☆
OK...I went and looked and my Mom had given me a small dab of Efudex. She told me to be careful and a little dab will do ya! I got no reaction from an efudex application after having used the VIT C/HA for 4 months, so I believe the BCC's are non active and most likely dead. I can say the cancer is not active now...but because I can still see albeit about half their original sizes or less, and just one or two shades darker than my normal skin. If this continues I will be back in another 6 months (I will quit applying in a few months) and give this a cure assuming it doesn't come back again. I need to check with my mother too since she has really been through the ringer and was going to try my treatment. I have been using the Vit C/HA for almost exactly 6 months.
(America)
03/23/2016
(Bremereton)
03/18/2016
Basal cell carcinoma is real easy to cure. An element extracted from eggplant called BEC-5 stops this form of cancer in a hurry. It works quicker and safer than other treatments like black salve which can leave a painful scar where the tumor used to be.
Now one big word of caution, do NOT use hyaluronic acid near that tumor! Hyaluronic acid makes the body tissues more easily breached by cancers which choose to go metastatic.
A very simple and safe cancer treatment is dmso applied several times a day. Wipe on with your clean finger NOT a Q-tip because of the glues used on the Q-tip being in contact with dmso.
Now one more caution. Doctors scare people telling them the sun gives you cancer therefore slather on tons of deadly carcinogenic sunscreen. Woops, hmmm sunscreen is carcinogenic? You bet it is. Very carcinogenic! More than 150 brands were tested and the vast majority had cancer causing agents in the formulation. Very few were safe and effective. Some of them are loaded with nano particulates which pose a severe danger! Nano materials penetrate through skin then travel to organs, the brain, and even find their way into cancer cells. Some sunscreens even had lead and mercury in them. In lab tests many animals got cancer from exposure to various sunscreens. The fda allows virtually anything to be put in cosmetics applied externally just like it didn't soak through and penetrate the skin.
Boral of the story: Be careful what goes on you, and be careful what goes in you.
(Somewhere, Europe)
03/18/2016
Nadine, vitamin C hurts quite a bit and makes it raw. I never did it long enough to see if it really worked.
If I had to do it again, I would use h2o2, baking soda, ACV and green clay.
(America)
03/22/2016
Thanks everybody! I read in this forum when you apply H2O2 over tumor it turns to white because oxygen in h2o2. But my mommy have a 1 pearl-like lesion (no bloody or open wound), and it doesn't turn white....it works in this way? By other hand she's using Aldara + mupirocin (antibiotic). Can I test with ACV + h2o2 on same day?
(Los Angeles, Ca)
06/23/2017
Hi Ben,
Saw your post of 2016. So you say the eggplant BEC treatment is pretty good, and safer. I've been reading how aggressive the black salve can be.
I came across mixing vitamin c and dmso. I understand that dmso becomes a transporter for other things, and that one has to take precaution using it, since it opens up the area to which one applies it to, but also very effective. When I read this I became a bit scared to use it. I just received some in the mail along with my vitamin order, and only did a skin patch test. I can tell it's rather strong, because the arm I did the test on, I could feel my elbow itching and tingling later on. Did you use vitamin c with the dmso? O.K., thank you for the information shared.
It is so good to read others experiences using different protocols.
Margeaux
Wet Table Salt
★★★★★
His students were reporting that they were being told this. “Wet table salt cures skin cancer”.
Fast forward to today… I was reading a book “Health at home, or, Hall's family doctor, by William Whitty Hall · 1876” and I read this;
Col. Ussery · 1876, of the parish of De Soto, in Louisiana(?), informs the editor of the Caddo Gazette, that he fully tested a remedy for this troublesome disease, recommended to him by a old Spanish woman, a native of the country had the reputation of curing cancers by making a salve of the yolk of an egg (the yellow part at the center of an egg);
The remedy is this: Take an Egg and break it; pour out the white, retaining the yolk in the shell; then put in Salt, and mix with the yolk as long as it will receive it; stir them together until a Salve is formed; put a portion of this on a piece of sticking-plaster by spreading a portion of it on linen or other material, and lay it over the spot and apply it to the cancer about twice a day. He has tried the remedy twice in his own family with complete success. This plaster must be renewed night and morning, until a cure is effected; the bowels being made to act freely every day.
Some I am thinking to myself, this is what Granny was telling me. Salt and Sea water is the oldest known form of medicine to human kind. Ever since man bathed in the ocean and noticed the some kind of skin rash was healed. Just google search “Sea Water Cure” and you will see my point.
Now if you investigate salt and it's use against cancer, you will find the following:
Salt for Skin Cancer: A new study, carried out in mice, focuses on salt. The researchers have successfully used sodium chloride nanoparticles to destroy cancer cells. Scientists — many from the University of Georgia, in Athens — are looking to sodium chloride, or salt, in nanoparticle form.
The authors of the new study, published in the journal Advanced Materials, tested their theory that “Sodium chloride nanoparticles (SCNPs) can be exploited as a Trojan horse strategy to deliver ions into cells and disrupt the ion homeostasis.”
“Unlike conventional chemotherapeutics, SCNPs cause immunogenic cell death or ICD. In vivo studies show that SCNPs not only kill cancer cells, but also boost an anticancer immunity. The discovery opens up a new perspective on nanoparticleâ€based therapeutics.” https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/adma.201904058
SCNPs contain millions of sodium and chlorine atoms, but the ion channels responsible for keeping salt out do not recognize them in this form.
Consequently, SCNPs are free to enter the cell, and once inside, they dissolve, releasing sodium and chlorine ions that become trapped in the cell.
These ions disrupt cellular machinery and rupture the plasma membrane. As the cell membrane breaks open, the sodium and chlorine atoms are released. This, in turn, signals an immune response and inflammation.
Using a mouse model, the scientists tested their theory. They injected SCNPs into tumors and charted their growth. They compared the growth of these tumors with those of mice in a control group who had received the same quantity of sodium chloride in a solution, rather than as nanoparticles.
The team found that the SCNPs suppressed tumor growth by 66%, compared with the control group. Importantly, there were no signs that the SCNPs caused damage to any of the mice's organs.
This method appears to be safe. As associate professor and lead author Jin Xie, Ph.D., explains: “After the treatment, the nanoparticles are reduced to salts, which are merged with the body's fluid system and cause no systematic or accumulative toxicity. No sign of systematic toxicity was observed with SCNPs injected at high doses.” Source: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327468
Findings suggest common salt activates anti-tumor cells
Source: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-08-common-salt-anti-tumor-cells.html
Salt could help to boost the immune defense against cancer. This is suggested by the research findings of a team led by Prof. Dr. Christina Zielinski, who holds the Chair of Infection Immunology at the Friedrich Schiller University in Jena. The group presents its findings in Nature Immunology.
Sodium chloride, commonly known as "table salt, " was a valuable commodity in history. Today, table salt is cheap and indispensable in the kitchen. It is therefore not surprising that it has long since found its way into our everyday language—although not all expressions always bode well. However, the phrase "rubbing salt into the wound" could soon be given a positive twist, namely in cancer therapy.
In the past, cancer was usually a death sentence, but research has made considerable progress in recent decades and has significantly increased the survival time with a high quality of life for many types of cancer. Recently, adoptive T-cell therapy in particular has developed into an effective treatment tool.
Here, certain of the body's own white blood cells, the T cells, are modified in such a way that they can specifically recognize and fight tumor cells. The effectiveness of this method is influenced by the metabolic activity of the T cells, which is usually suppressed in the immunosuppressive environment of a tumor. It is therefore important to identify factors that overcome this suppression.
The team led by Christina Zielinski from the Leibniz Institute for Natural Product Research and Infection Biology—Hans Knöll Institute (Leibniz-HKI) in Jena has now discovered one of these factors: Sodium ions—a component of sodium chloride—increase the efficiency of antitumoral T cells. The researchers were able to show that breast cancer tumors have a higher sodium concentration than healthy tissue and that T cells act particularly strongly against tumors when the immediate environment has a higher sodium concentration. These patients then even have a longer survival time.
"We were able to show that sodium enhances the immune response of CD8+ T cells, " says Chang-Feng Chu, who is a first author of the study. CD8+ T cells are immune cells that can recognize and kill tumor cells or cells infected with viruses in the body.
"Previous research has already shown that sodium regulates other types of T cells involved in autoimmune diseases and allergies. We wanted to find out what effect sodium has specifically on the activity of human CD8+ T cells, " explains Shan Sun, another first author.
The researchers therefore used various technologies to investigate the effect of sodium ions on gene regulation and the metabolic process of CD8+ T cells. "We pre-treated the human T cells with salt and then cultured them with tumors. We also carried out mouse experiments with T cells, " Chu explains.
Immune cells become fitter
The researchers found that the salt improved the metabolic fitness of the CD8+ T cells by increasing the uptake of sugar and amino acids and thus energy production in the cells. As a result, the immune cells were better able to eliminate tumor cells, as the experiments on cell cultures and mice have shown. "Pancreatic tumors shrank in the mice after we injected them with T cells pre-treated with salt, " says Chu.
But how exactly does sodium work in the cell? "Sodium ions increase the activity of the sodium-potassium pump on the cell membrane of T cells. This leads to a change in the membrane potential, which in turn increases the activation of the T-cell receptor, " reports Sun. "This signal amplification makes it easier for the immune cells to kill tumor cells more efficiently."
Her colleague Chu adds, "The salt also protects the T cells from becoming exhausted too quickly. This is important because exhausted T cells gradually lose their ability to fight cancer cells."
The research team recommends using sodium chloride as a positive regulator for the "killer" function of T cells in future. Of course, this is not about patients consuming more salt in their diet. Rather, it is conceivable that the immune cells are exposed to an increased salt concentration outside the body and become highly active against tumor cells after being administered to the patients.
Ordinary table salt could therefore support adoptively transferred T cells in the fight against cancer and possibly also against infectious diseases that require a defense against infected cells. So, the expression "rubbing salt into someone's wound" does not necessarily remain a negative one
(PNW)
11/15/2024
Hi Rob,
Thank you for sharing this post, very interesting research regarding salt and skin cancer.
Years ago I developed a sarcoma on my left medial ankle bone, extremely painful. At the time, I did not know it was cancer, I thought it was maybe fungal. So, I applied a salt pack several times daily which resolved the lesion. I was surprised.
Fast forward, a year or two later the sarcoma reappeared and became aggressive and began to extend up my calf. Amputation was suggested (absolutely not). I forgot about the salt (and did not know it addressed cancer). I came up with other remedies that resolved the cancer (essential oils - the main treatment, various supplements, diet, prayer). The doctors were more than surprised and even upset!
I wonder what would have happened if I had incorporated the salt packs.
A Naturopath tested the calf/ankle area and discovered that a couple of parasitic infections (picked up in Japan, Maui and Arizona) caused the lesion in addition to fungus. Some of the treatments I used also addressed these conditions.
Of interest, salt treatments have historically been used to address various parasitic issues.
There is a couple that have a website where they post their successful treatment of Lyme & co-infections (including parasites) with what they call the "Salt & Vitamin C Remedy":
~1/4 tsp of salt (purified) + 3 grams L-ascorbic acid + 1 cup water, 4X/day. Or, 1 gram of salt/10 pounds of body weight, 18-20 grams of salt/day, minimum 8 grams/day, maximum 24 grams/day. Considering that the half life of Vitamin C is around 2 hours, it is actually best to take smaller doses more often throughout the day say, 1/16 - 1/8 tsp salt with 1-2 gram Vit C, 8X/day. They note one can take it with food if needed.
It is very important to be very hydrated during treatment; and, to know that many salt sources are contaminated with mold, mycotoxins and even heavy metals such as lead, so only use a safe source of salt.
They had many herxheimer reactions which occurred in cycles during the 1.5 - 2 year treatment. They noted many different types of parasites, worms and mites came out of the stool, urine, skin, nose and eyes and they posted the photos (lymephotos.com).
Warm regards,
Sherri
