Natural Remedies for Basal Cell Carcinoma

Baking Soda, Castor Oil, Hydrogen Peroxide  

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Posted by Stephen (Newcastle, NSW Australia) on 07/05/2008
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BCC skin cancer removal: I had a multi-point BCC [Basil Cell Carcinoma] removed surgically from an area between my right eye and ear. A painful and nasty procedure with only local anestetic and skin graft leaving a circular scar about the size of a 50cent piece. I noticed that a part of the cancer may have been missed about 1yr later and my concerns grew after it hollowed out and expanded. I really didn't wish to have another op. so I tried a treatment that I was using for skin tags and moles. I placed about a table spoon of bi-carb soda into a small measuring cup and added a small amount of csstor oil BP to blend up to a fairly consistent paste, no lumps but firm enough so it wouldn't run when placed on my lesion. I covered this with fabric band-aids and replaced it before going to bed and in the morning. As these lesions tend to bleed and weep freely anyway it helped more so to have the band-aid coverings on not only to stop the bleeding and weeping running down my face but to also hold the paste on the lesion. Ugly and not fun for about 2 weeks then I realised the bleeding was slowing. After 3 weeks I removed the covering one day and noticed the affected area had flattened out and no more bleeding but the area below and around it was very red and sensitive as if the solution had been burning the skin. I allowed it to air for a day placing Hydrogen Peroxide all over the area. It scabbed up overnight and I continued to keep it covered for the next few days. The scab was trying to lift and I was a little concerned that all was in vain but once the scab came off it left a smooth almost completely healed spot. That was yesterday 4/07/08 and today even better. I slept on it last night without being covered and even showered today without concern and not a hint of problem thus far. I hope to leave a little more feedback over the next 2 weeks on progress and I sincerely hope this is of help to many others who have real concerns over BCC's.

Warning though, the compound stings a bit and the burning and redness of surrounds may be disconcerting but please try it for yourself. All the best to all with this ailment and I hope I have been helpful to you.

Replied by Greg
Sydney
12/30/2015

I wonder if coconut oil or cream can be used as a substitute for castor oil or using aloe vera gel to hold baking soda together when applying to the skin.. I have a 10 mm BCC on my top lip and. I have been booked for surgery in 3 weeks. So I must try these remedys and possibly avoid the surgery.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
12/30/2015

HI U GREG, , , , , , , , boy, you in the area where Cura-derm was discovered. It is made from your eggplant. Research and use as it has cured two of my skin cancers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uog1ouoAoys

Wish you well.========ORH=========

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
12/30/2015

Dear Greg,

Castor oil oil has a good reputation in the healing of tumors and growths. Because of this, I would hesitate to substitute it with something else. I suspect it is a critical ingredient.

~Mama to Many~


Baking Soda, Eggplant, ACV  

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Posted by Beinafraid (Palm Beach) on 09/27/2018
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Baking soda/eggplant/ACV/frankincense oil for Basal cell

So on August 31 I had sore biopsied to find out what it was. It was about the size of pencil eraser, with a scab over roughly half of it and the other half kind of weepy/bloody that would bleed easy. The technician proclaimed it looked like BCC but wanted to do a biopsy to be sure. I would hear back in 10-12 days.

Started as a weird pimple that wouldn't go away and over 4 years or so wound up being a scabby sore that would bleed occasionally. I had it looked at 3 years ago and the doctor told me it was a cyst. I figured I had to wait anyway, might as well try some homeopathic treatments.

For the first week I applied a paste of organic coconut oil and baking soda, held on with a bandage, over night. Washed off in the morning with regular soap and water. Repeated every night for a week. I noticed after the second day, the bleeding had stopped and a scab started to form. I made a batch of eggplant in ACV because I had heard about this cure and also that cancer cells change form every 5-6 days, so I thought I should change the attack as well.

The second week, I felt as if I had killed the bad cells, so I started applying the eggplant tincture. I just dabbed it on with a cotton swab whenever I remembered, probably 5-6 times a day and several more times at night. When I went to sleep I put frankincense oil on it. By the end of the second week, I noticed that it was starting to get a little smaller, had a scab for a couple of days that would fall off and regrow and I just felt like it was cured but not healed. I had ordered some of the black salve so the 14th night, Friday, I decided to see if there was any cancer left by putting the black salve in it. I was so scared but I covered the end of my nose with black salve. No reaction at all, a little tingle but I think it may be because I had this stuff all over my nose. After about 3 hours, I washed it off, put frankincense all over my nose and went to sleep. The next morning, I had a crusty scab with a black dot where the BCC had been and about 5 other little crusty scabs that branched out from the main sore. These other little scabs were about the size of one of my pores.

I kept applying frankincense oil 2 times a day for the entire 3rd week. After 2 days all of the scabs fell off when I washed my face and the bigger scab had a cone of white goop under it. Tomorrow, Friday, will be the end of week 4 and I have kept on with the frankincense oil and also applying vitamin E oil. Right now I have a hole of pink skin, no blood, about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser that will develop a scab which will come off when I wash my face every 3rd day or so. I am starting with straight up ACV over night to hopefully close up the hole. I am going to give it another month to hopefully heal and then get it rebiopsied.

Hope this helps.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
09/30/2018

Beinafraid,,,,,,,,,, be careful with black salve on your face. It does not know when to stop eating. I have used it but not on my face.

====ORH====

Replied by Beinafraid
Palm Beach
10/07/2018

Hi Robert Henry,

Thank you you for the warning. I put Black Salve on my nose for 3 hours to see if there would be any reaction and to see if I had killed the BSC with the baking soda. When there was no reaction, I wiped it off, but I think the Black Salve still found something because a little cone of white stuff with a black dot in the middle came out, as did a couple little pore sized crusty things.

It has been 5 weeks and I now have a little depression where the BSC used to be. It is definitely healing from the inside out because the depression used to be a little hole. I am thrilled that I didn't have surgery and even more excited that homeopathic medicine cured it!!

So happy to have found this group.

Cheers!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
10/10/2018

HI U BEINAFRAID,,,,,,,,,,,, I stay in the sun constantly while gardening and I know I have a cancer coming when my facial skin get rough. Stuff happens. I do two things for this. One is to use BEC 5, Curaderm, which is made from eggplant. That is a no brainer. Works every time and no facial scars. I do use a dermatologist when it's spooky time. My guy knows about BEC 5, but that does not make him money. He does recommend 5% Fluorouracil for stuff that has not yet turned into cancer.

I want to cry when folks use ACV and other stuff that make a great post, but do nothing for their cancer. You don't play around with cancer. It will put you in the grave.

Today we are putting up muscadine juice and apple juice. Always did it like Grand Maw did, but there is now a better way. It is a steam juicer. Takes all day, but it is clear as a bell and tastes great. No doubt you kill the enzymes with heat. You can't have it all.

Age is starting to be a drag. I got to get back into detox and start to feel good again. I now keep a constant head ache. I see a NP every 3 months soes she can send me to a specialist. My 20 year family doctor did not know sheet from Shinola and I flushed him. When he sees me going to his NP, he gets indigestion. He knows that I know more about health than he does, but he wears a white frock and looks the part. He also has lots of religious things about his office. Since I's a Christian, I read the guy. Will leave it at that.

Talking the walk is not walking the talk. It's just that simple. If you read EC constantly, you learn who knows what. I alway get into trouble when I point out who knows squat. So, I'll leave that up to the readers.

ATS====ORH====

Replied by Trudy
Alabama
10/12/2018

Ol Robert Henry--how do you use eggplant for the crusty skin stuff? I will look into getting Curaderm, but would like to start asap. My DH has scaly, crusty spots all over due to sun damage (25+ years at sea will do it! ). The dermatologists love to cut on him and he's about done with them. I can do eggplant, tho.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
10/12/2018

HI U TRUDY,,,,

We raise egg plant, but buy the cream from Dr Cham. Buy the book. Now the BEC 5 cream can be bought from Walmart or Amazon. Way back when, we had to buy it from GT Britain and it took months and had to go through customs. Now you can get it in two days. Stuff happens.

You are wise to use this product. The little tube will last you a lifetime. Don't get into the egg plant stuff yourself. You will die before you find the answer. I have tried.

====ORH====


Baking Soda, Hydrogen Peroxide  

Posted by Carol (Glasgow, Scotland) on 11/29/2010

For around 2yrs I had a sore on my head that wouldn't heal, it was risen around the edge and depressed in the middle, kinda like a crater. I had a bad habit of picking it and assumed that was why it wouldn't heal so I decided to leave it alone and I put a paste of water and bicarbonate of soda on it at night for a few weeks and it cleared up in no time even although I would forget to put the bicarb on for days at a time.

A few months later a similar eruption appeared nearer the crown of my head and shortly after that another smaller one near it. This time I used 3% Hydrogen Peroxide as I could put it on throughout the day without the hassle of the caked bicarb in my hair. It felt like a needle being stabbed into my brain the first few times I done it, I got such a shock but it only lasted a minute or two and by the third of fourth application I didn't feel anything. Both sores cleared up within two weeks.

Now I couldn't see these sores on my head so don't know what they looked like, only what they felt like so last year when I noticed a small, raised, whiteish circle on my arm I didn't associate it with the things i'd felt on my head until recently when it started to pit/depress in the middle and felt just like them. This time I done a bit of research on skin problems that won't heal by themselves and as soon as I saw pictures and read about Basal Cell Carcinoma I am certain that is what these sores are. I will buy some Hydrogen Peroxide this week and do a follow up in a week or twos time.


Basal Cell Carcinoma Remedies  

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Posted by Brooke (Durango, Co) on 10/04/2013

I've read with great interest some of the remedies here. I've just had a punch biopsy by a local skin doctor the results of which gave the diagnosis of “Multifocal and Infiltrating Basal Cell Carcinoma.”

I went for a consultation with a local plastic surgeon and when he explained the recommended surgery, it was a real turnoff. He did say that sometimes the biopsy produced a cure and suggested waiting a few weeks. When I got home, I decided to research non-surgical treatments and cures and came up with your site. I was impressed by many of the results shared by people with a similar diagnosis or pathology.

I went out and bought some of the ingredients that were mentioned and seemed to be most effective, like: Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar, Milk Thistle, 3% Hydrogen Peroxide, Vitamin C Crystals, Iodine (what's different about the “tincture” type of Iodine and is that important in this sort of treatment?) and Colloidal Silver. Any good recipes, using these ingredients?

I have a couple of other questions for those who've experimented successfully with some of the above ingredients. It seems that some of the items mentioned have an acidic base, is that important? Therefore, I wondered if I the Vitamin C should be the acidic type or can it be buffered? Also, is there a difference between crystals and powder? And, has anyone tried altering treatments, like one recipe in the morning and another at night? And, finally, has anyone tried anything using probiotics successfully?

I look forward to hearing your answers to the above questions and any other ideas you might have.

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
10/04/2013

Dear Brooke,

We have used the Vitamin C treatment for my husband who had a flaking growth on his ear several years ago. It appeared to be pre-cancerous Squamous Cell Carcinoma. We used Vitamin C crystals (Ascorbic Acid). We put 1 part vitamin C and 8 parts water in a little glass bowl and applied it with a q-tip twice a day. (You make a new batch each day. ) Sometimes we forgot to treat it. 3x a day would have been better and covering it with a bandaid was recommended but we didn't do that. It was on his ear. We did this pretty faithfully for maybe a month or more. It did cure it and it hasn't come back. That was all we did. We read about this in the book, Cancer, Step Outside the Box. The author said with would work for BCC or SCC. He also recommended Colloidal Silver, but didn't give much information about how often to use it.

I think any treatment would work better if you worked on getting your body ph where it should be. There is tons of information on this site about that. Also, since cancer loves sugar, keeping that to a minimum would be ideal.

Please let us know what helps you!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Mike
Denver, Colorado
10/04/2013

Brooke: The milk thistle is actually milk weed.

Replied by Christine
Seattle, Wa
09/15/2015

Brooke,

I have the same type of infiltrative basal cell on my forehead. Wonder what treatments worked for you? Thanks!

Replied by On My
Carmichaels Pa.
11/14/2016

I also used the vitamin C on my ear - a paste two times a day for almost three weeks and what I believe was basal cell never came back, It has been over a year now.


Posted by Lala (Mcminnville, Or) on 05/30/2013

How can I treat my husbands BCC on his lower eyelid? It's on the edge where the lashes are and a bit inside the lid. Are there some kind of drops that would help? He has had two Moh procedures on it already and not going again. He's had so many moh's procedures on his face and ear. He also has several on his back and chest.

Replied by Chickenlady
Harlingen
05/30/2013

You can use topical vitamin C on basal cell carcinoma, but I don't know how or if you can use it so close to the eye--you would need to figure that out. I used vitamin C paste on a diagnosed, biopsied bcc and had a lot of success reducing it. There is a skin cancer website that covers it in more detail. Good luck!

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
05/30/2013

Lala, read up on castor oil. And also on BCC right here on EC.

Replied by Mama To Many
Middle, Tennessee, Usa
05/30/2013

My husband, who is 47, had flaking spots on his ears that appeared to be pre-cancerous BCC. He is very fair skinned. His brother had a melanoma removed when he was 27. (He is even more fair skinned. ) Anyway, we didn't want to go down the medical route. We read about using Vitamin C on skin cancer in the book, "Cancer: Step Outside of the Box. " We used his protocol for skin cancer and it worked!!! You mix vitamin C powder (ascorbic acid- get a good one that is non-gmo. ) 1 part Vitamin C powder with 8 parts water. We would use a cotton ball to apply this solution to the ear a couple of times a day. 4 times a day would be better but he was away at work during the day. He also forgot sometimes. But within a month the spot was gone. That was a couple of years ago and it has not reappeared.

One complication you have is that the spot is on the eyelid. I do not know if this solution would burn the eye. You could add salt to it to get it to a comfortable PH for the eye. But I am not sure how much that would be. You could also put castor oil in the eye before putting the vitamin C solution on the eyelid, but you wouldn't want to get the castor oil on the eyelid because then the solution would not adhere to the eye.

The author of this book also says that colloidal silver will kill cancer cells. I think some people use this in the eye, so it may be easier on the eye, but I have no experience with this. Someone else might say if colloidal silver can go in the eyes. The author says that you should get a high quality silver, in other words with smaller particles. Not sure what else to say about this as we have no experience with it, but I thought I would mention it in case you wanted to research it.

Hope you find a good natural solution! Let us know what works for you!

Replied by Yolanda
Illinois
01/25/2014

You can use colloidal silver by the eye and it won't cause any problems if it gets in the eye. For the bcc on the eyelid.

Replied by Mya
Texas, US
07/22/2014

Can you tell me what type of basal cell was on the eyelid? Was it nodular? I am trying to find an alternative to surgery and I have nodular on eyelid. What did you use on it and did it go away?

Replied by Jax
Colorado
07/06/2015
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Has anyone else had experience with colloidal silver on an eyelid bbc? I have bbc on my lower eyelid and have been soaking a q-tip in colloidal silver (first started 10 ppm and now using 30 ppm) and applying on the bbc several times per day with no success. I've been doing this since February and have not noticed any difference in size or color. I want to avoid Moh's at all costs! I am also fearful of putting other remedies like Apple Cider Vinegar on or near my eye. any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
07/07/2015

Jax, read up on using wetted clay. NOT IN your eye, just on the lids. Very easy to wash off even if it drys on you.

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc Canada
07/08/2015

Jax --- try cold pressed castor oil also called Palma Christi, it can be put into the eye and does many good healings. Do research under Edgar Cayce.

Namaste, Om

Replied by Jax
Colorado
07/09/2015

Thank you, Mmsg and Om. I will explore both options for the bcc on my eyelid. I appreciate the suggestions!


Basal Cell Epithelium Remedies  

Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 02/08/2014

Ok guys, now I need your help: anyone know a sure-fire way to remove a basal cell epithelium (less severe than a carcinoma) on the bridge of the nose between the eyes (an awkward place for a cover-up, hence very noticeable)? The doctors are ready to cut but an alternative method is always preferable.

Topical Vitamin C, Iodine, H2O2, Green Clay has already been tried with various results since September. Which one, or any other idea, should be continued?

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
02/08/2014

Dear Mmsg,

I would consider trying frankincense essential oil. It is wonderful for skin issues and lots of other issues. It is gentle and can be used "neat" (without diluting.) Since it is for a delicate skin area and near the eyes, you could dilute it one to one with a carrier oil, perhaps coconut.

Frankincense is a pretty expensive essential oil, but would be cheaper than surgery. Look for a high quality oil. Heritage Essential Oils in TX, USA has excellent quality, but not sure if they ship to Europe.

Another thing to try would be castor oil. You could do both; castor at night and frankincense in the morning.

Please keep us posted!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc
02/08/2014

Hello Mmsg,

You might also try mixing DMSO with broken caps of "pancreatin" and applying topically. Try twice a day for two weeks and see if the condition reduces. Pancreatic enzymes were the big "go to" in Dr Kelley's anti cancer program and is used extensively by Dr Nick Gonzales on New York to treat cancer. (There is MUCH more to Dr Gonzales' program than enzymes.)

Replied by Jos
Thailand
02/09/2014

Hi Mmsg Europe. Have you tried black salve Cansema paste? This really is fabulous if you can get any.

Have a look at utube recommendations for this product, and view Bill O'Leary cancer story. I hope this is if help to you. My best wishes.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere In Europe
02/09/2014

Thanks, Mama to Many, Dave and Timh. Frankincense has been used but it seems too mild. Or maybe, it is usefull when all the gunk is out. Right now frequent applications of wetted vitamin C powder seems to be pulling out strange brown and clear liquids. So I guess the oils will be useful at night to give the skin a break from the aggressive day treatment. Actually, all this was already done and in about 2 months it was almost healed but there was a raised ring around a depressed crater and that's why it is now being attacked again. Sure enough it has become angry, weeping and ugly! I did learn that iodine creates a scab, and that might NOT be helpful, so now iodine is being applied only about once a day, with the vitamin C powder taking center stage right now during the daytime and oils at night. Timh: when you say Baking Soda and Borax, do you mean applied topically or taken internally? Same question to Dave about the pancreatin. Topically or internally?

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
02/09/2014

Dear Mmsg,

Have you tried anything internal to go with the external? If you haven't tried internal turmeric, you might consider it. 1 teaspoon twice a day. We have found it to help skin stuff so much and it is anti-tumor/cancer.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc
02/09/2014

Mmsg:

Topically use the pancreatin with DMSO.

But won't hurt to take orally in addition. For a therapy to dissolve tumors, large amounts daily must be taken (for internal tumors)....8 each dose, five times daily and Dr Kelly had the patient taking one dose at night...3 AM. But again that was for internal tumors with time off a few days out of two weeks to cleanse the toxins out of system.

Nick Gonzales is the MD in Manhattan who took up the Kelly system. Much more to his system than just the enzymes. Dr Gonzales is one of my heroes.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
02/09/2014

Jos, firstly, I cannot get any here. Secondly, I'm a little wary of black salve as I'm reading it REALLY hurts and might leave scars. This vitamin C hurts too, but a bit less each time I put it on. Also, yesterday the gook it pulled out was brown, now it's yellow to clear, so I hope it's doing it's job!

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
02/20/2014

Hola Justin! I've read a lot about the "black salve" but seeing that this thing is very visible, on the face between the eyes, we are looking for milder things. We have just tried French Green Clay for a bit, and now we are giving it a few days rest. It HAS stopped weeping and is developing a nice scab. The only undesirable thing is the raised area around this. Is this raised area hiding any more "bad guys"? I don't know.

Replied by Robin
Upstate New York, US
05/08/2014

greetings! I have been dealing with a basal cell carcinoma on my right cheek. I've gone through the scabbing and bleeding off and on for a period of months. I've used Yarrow oil, vitamin e oil, aloe vera, various essential oils, (thyme, rosemary and frankincense) and recently, emu oil, which is very soothing and medihoney, a Canadian compound. The lesion has finally stopped bleeding and is looking much better. I test using kinesiology to check what to use and how much. I refused any medical intervention which consisted of the cream flourouricil. I have also been taking mega doses of vitamin C for months, as well as fish oils and apigenin. its a real journey!

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
12/17/2014

Ok, people. For about two weeks I have been applying clay poultices (wet clay wrapped in a small piece of cotton cloth) for about 1/2 hour at a time on this BCC. I did that about 2-3 times a day. At first there was always gook (pus/blood) on the cloth when I took it off, but today there is no oozing of anything.

BUT, the area is still well defined with bumps and depressions. I will continue with clay but how will I know if it's gone and healing? My surgery is yet to be announced by the powers that be, I guess there is a LONG list of surgeries. I am contemplating asking for a biopsy, or punch biopsy or whatever, before they slash. Or if I see ANY part of it turning to normal skin height and looks, I'll be tempted to cancel the surgery. Any thoughts on the geography of what's left?

Replied by Timh
KY
12/17/2014
2115 posts

Mmsg: Very glad to hear from you w/ a positive update. I had been thinking maybe a poultice of Borax would help, as you were considering. I think it worth a try, maybe rotating w/ the Clay. I would also rotate any number of topical natural antibiotics like Iodine, Colloidal Silver, Hydrogen Peroxide. If no further progress, I would highly recommend one of those small Don Croft Zappers; at that local level the pathogens must die from a direct current.

I was shopping for Hemp Oil/CBD on Amazon the other day and found a merchant selling a combo-pack of Hemp Oil for oral consumption w/ a container of Hemp Oil Salve. This would surely make a difference as Cannabinoids are powerful anti-carcinogens.

Hope this helps.


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Posted by Maria (A.c.t. Australia) on 06/04/2017
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Love this site...a tag between my breasts turned brown, became hard and it hurt if I bumped it. I put a tiny bit of Cansema on it and it burnt a little but bearable. The next day, I washed it off. Cansema, which is a bloodroot salve only starts its action if cancer is present...otherwise nothing. A few days later, three small craters opened up ABOVE the left breast and the original tag between the breasts disappeared completely. The craters oozed pus, there were little white dots around them, like tiny beads, and I was careful to keep them clean and covered. A painful dragging feeling in the left breast started, mainly at night but again not unbearable. I kept positive and asked inwardly for courage and help. After a few weeks, the holes started to close up. The scars were raised, soft and dark pink in colour. It took a year for them to stop feeling tender and fade to my skin colour. That was four years ago and no further action!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
06/05/2017

MARIA,,,,,,, glad blood root worked for you and it does eat cancer. I aborted my use of it once because I got spooked. An Integrative doctor in Atlanta told me that he misused it in addressing cancer and it ate a hole in his back. Maybe that is a small price to pay for eliminating cancer. I would just be cautious.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but blood root is a very strong remedy. Right now, I have a spot near my right eye that I am addressing with Cureaderm. Maybe, I should let my Dermatologist address this problem. A short while ago I took off a spot on my shoulder with Cureaderm. If it is not cancer, it will not affect your skin. You do not have to get a biopsies, because the treatment will tell you. Basel Cell is one thing, but Squamous Cell is another. Both are skin cancers, but not equal.

I wish you well. ====ORH==


Posted by Sam (Western Cape) on 04/24/2017
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Nodula basal cell carcinoma

A dermatologist diagnosed my spot next to my nose (quite close to my eye). I decided not to see a surgeon but to try something natural. I googled Black salve and decided to give it a go. It's not available in shops but I managed to find someone who makes it locally.

I first used a buffpuff to roughen up the area on my nose and then applied the Black salve covered with a plaster. The spot was average size but raised. I covered more of my nose than just the spot. Within 24 hours it was bubbling yellow liquid out. I thought well this is good. When I removed the plaster the area was very sensitive. I didn't get a nice neat eschar like I had seen on someone elses post but instead when the yellow crust had been washed off gradually (when the area was not very sore anymore) I had quite a scar.

Well I thought, at least I got it all out.

Now around the scar I have a couple of tiny spots and a larger one on top area. Does this mean it's back? I don't want to use Black salve again in case my scar splits open. As a side note I also had a sore inside my nose slightly lower down from the original spot. This would gather mucous and it was sticky. I wonder if this is connected?

My main question is should I now do the Apple cider vinegar. What can I expect? Must I soak cotton on it or can I just dab?


Posted by Suz (Salt Lake City, Utah) on 10/25/2013

I'm so grateful... just discovered this site and spent a couple hours reading posts. ...great comfort to find this.

I am female, 64, very fair skin, and confirmed basel cell carcinoma on bridge of nose just to the left side. However, it is really hard to detect anything by a casual glance.

My nose was never discolored as is the case with some people with bsa, but I can see that there is (and has been for some time) a darkness under the skin on the bridge of my nose. Other than a slight puffiness to my nose, I could get by without anyone even guessing there is a problem. But then again the dermatologist didn't recognize the true issue a year ago and sent me home. At that time however, I clearly saw the first suspicious "pimples" and the tiny sore that wouldn't heal.

But, the biopsy in August 2013, was indeed positive this year.

....went to 2 different dermatologists this past summer, the first one did the biopsy and wanted to do surgery. I opted out... stalled on that.
.... I heard about MOHS surgery and kept looking for an answer.
.... and the second dermatologist wanted me to use a cream called Aldara.
.... got Aldara at the pharmacy but decided not to use it because of the side effects mentioned regarding the immune system.
... started looking on the internet and found information by a Ph.d researcher (mentioned other places on this site), and the associated company who sells bloodroot products and enzymes.
... He was encouraging and said that by using the product, most bsc will fade and disappear without using any bloodroot paste.
... ordered the package "A" and titrated up with the recommended bloodroot, enzymes, and bloodroot/with/buffer capsules till I was at a fairly high dosage and starting to feel nauseous then backed up and lowered the amount after 2 weeks, but continued on
.... I didn't keep an exact record on the daily amount but I will say that I have taken the product for 2 months now, but at a low amount 5 of the 8 weeks.

Observations: I did decide that the capsule with buffer mixed with bloodroot bothers my system, so I cut that down to 1 capsule per day together with a HALF capsule of the full strength bloodroot. I also take 2 enzyme capsules per each meal. I intend to continue to do this every day until all the suspicious spots fade or if I get better advice. I feel a subtle nausea every day but it doesn't distract me badly from my regular activities. One big discovery was that if I take 2-3 teaspoons of fresh lemon juice at the beginning of a meal, eat half the meal, then take the capsules, then finish the meal... I have less nausea.

More observations: a dozen or more small reddish spots have flared redder at first, then altogether disappeared, or they are in process of disappearing around my face, that is; mainly my forehead, plus 3 above my upper lip. Also something that looked like a large pimple in the middle of my cheek for months, has shrunken and I'm hopeful it will dry up and disappear soon... (it's barely noticeable now).

The irregular, slightly raised shapes on my nose (by the way they never were discolored), have smoothed out.
However I have had a few temporary "pimple" shapes appear right around the biopsy area, only to recede again.

I have wondered if there is a deeper problem down in the tissue of my nose, perhaps in the cartilage or even my sinuses. I don't know. I wish I could know.

My nose seems a bit puffy... I don't see my full nose definition that I had 6 months ago... I suppose I get nervous and worry that the carcinoma is progressing despite my efforts, but then again I wonder if it's just that the bloodroot herb is attacking deeper problems and thus causing a reaction in the skin.

I have, on my own, experimented with the bloodroot.

On 3 different occasions I have wet my index finger with water, dipped it in the bloodroot powder and rubbed it on my nose. It seemed to absorb most of it. Then I rubbed on a little emu oil.
I left it on for about 1 hour and washed it off.
I then apply aloe vera gel... and then, finally apply a little emu oil which is very, very healing.
Later in the day here was a slight sensation for a while... almost aching... but that's all.

Does that seem crazy or a bad idea... or a good idea?

My nose aches at times but then it feels fine at times.
I don't know if that means I am healing or getting worse.
I don't know if I should keep applying the bloodroot externally the way I am, or, I wonder if I should just continue to take the capsules daily the way I am.... or stop.
I would like to know if anyone else has tried doing something like this, or what they think of it.
This is such a guessing game.

What does the hurting or aching of the nose indicate? What does 'tingling' indicate? What does puffiness indicate?.

Genuine feedback would be most appreciated! Thank you.

Replied by Nanowriter
Hotspot, Texas
10/26/2013

I had bcc diagnosed and biopsies roughly a year ago and have done a fair amount of reading since. One book that is very good is "Cancer Salves" which goes into detail about various anti cancer salves. Bloodroot is usually mixed with other ingredients and is effective, but can be a bit of a runaway train. You can search on YouTube and find videos of people who have used it.

A topical that I used on my nodular bcc was vitamin C, which I purchased in powder form, mixed with water and applied as continuously as I could stand. It was slow and fairly painful, but the growth dissolved and the C began dissolving the "fingers" that extended out from it.

As to the swelling you have, the way that many topicals supposedly work is that they remove the protective covering that keeps your immune system from realizing the cancer is there. So as your immune system is discovering the cancer, you are experiencing what would happen if your body fought a bacterial infection--swelling, pain, redness, etc. As to what lies beneath, even conventional treatments can miss part of the cancer and it will simply grow back.

Along these lines, if you do treat topically, extend the margins of treatment beyond what you see on the skin's surface by 1/2 inch or so in order to catch the "satellite cells" that are likely underneath.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
10/26/2013

Suz, I am helping someone handle something similar right now. Since I have read that bloodroot is VERY effective BUT very harsh, I have opted for other topical means (vitamin C, cannabis oil, clay, vinegar, frankincense). I imagine that what you are seeing is the healing process of "two steps forward and one step back", which is what I am seeing. It's a work in progress and a person does need faith and good cheer to keep trying!

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
10/26/2013

Add 5% tincture of Iodine to the list of topical items we are trying.


Posted by Ken (N.s.w. Australia) on 10/10/2013
5 out of 5 stars

I have used Black Salve/Bloodroot/Cancima on skin cancers for years with great success.

I made up my own salve from ingrediants available from wholesalers in Australia. The prepared product being too difficult and too expensive to get.

On some very old and deep lesions it is not a one off cure. You just have to be ever vigilant and apply to the spots as soon as you detect them. The biggest one covered nearly half my nose when I started. I removed it with 3 subsrquent applications. It still breaks out occasionally when I have been out in the sun with no protection, but if salve is applied as soon as a break in the skin is visible it is a quick removal with little discomfort.

I guess I have removed 20 or 30 BCC's since I started about 3 years ago. My daughter has my skin type and has als removed BCC's from her face. No knives for us thankyou!!


Posted by Susan (South Texas, USA) on 06/14/2007
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I have been using bloodroot products for approximately 5 years now. I have spent my most of my life in the sun at beaches and am paying dearly for it now in the way of skin cancer and I know that is my fault not the medical communities. I had been going to dermatoligists faithfully since the early 90's when I noticed what I believed to be precancerous plaques on various spots on my face. Doc's consistently said "no" when I requested biopsies. Mind you every year I went for a check up, I also have many moles. In 2002 I began to really worry and 6 months before the actualy diagnosis of BCC he was still telling me not to worry. So turns out tha ALL of the spots I was pointing out to them were BCC and I had Moh's surgery on my nose and lip, the other 4 spots were removed totally in the office. The result is a horrible scar that looks like I was attacked with a knife, I guess I actually was in a manor of speaking. It has taken time to get used to it, but everytime someone stares I know they are wondering "what the hell happened to her". I believe the plastic surgeon could have done a better job, but that is another story. On a recheck the dermatologist said that there were 2 additional ones and both biopsied positive for BCC. More Moh's surgery was suggested. This time I decided that I would search for alternatives. I probably got the last container of Cansema from altcancer before they arrested that poor guy. I used the product as directed and sure enough, both sites reacted as described. When using it I also have a "control" area with no blemishes, moles, etc., that I also put the salve and these areas have never reacted. I have used various formulas, all have worked. I have treated myself 10 times on spots that gave me concern due to a change in a mole, scaley spots, etc. I know the first 2 were cancerous and suspect the additional ones that I treated without biopsy were cancerous but will never truely know. Each and every time I was treating a spot, my body reacted with extreme pain, fever, edema and swelling at the site. I had to treat one spot on my face 2x but all the spots on my face healed with very minimal scarring. I treated various spots on my arms and hands. I also had some reffered pain when treating certain spots. But my reason for wanting to caution everyone about the potency and seriousness of treating unknown spots is this. Last year I was treating a mole on my back that was itching and had some changes in appearance. Years before this I had noticed a growing lump in the general vicinity of this mole. This "lump" had grown in the years since discovery, but I had asked doctors about it and they said, do nothing, it is a lipoma. It grew to approx. 5 x 1 " and was like a sausage under the skin. I was concerned about it but figured that it was a lipoma because I have other lumps in other places and had some of them removed. Not really thinking about this "lump" I put the salve on the mole above it and YOWZA, the "lump" reacted violently, and came to the surface, I was incapacitated for 2 months, was in regular contact with the makers of the salve I was using. I was ill to say the least. The pain was intolerable. I had to use pain meds that I had on hand. My family wanted me to go to the doctor, but what could they do? If it was cancer there was no way I was going to let them interrupt the process and I had to assume that it was. I was in mental and physical torment for 60 days. To top it off our daughter was getting married and I had to put it together. I was taking enzymes, AHCC, many other suppliments. So this huge sausage shaped tumor came out, just as the small ones did. Gross is too small of a word to describe it. It left a significant scar on my back and is still healing to this day. To add to this, several months later my brother was diagnosed with a rare benign growth that was IN his spinal cord. It was a 7" long and sausage shaped and he had it was successfully removed. When I was researching it, there is also a form of this growth that when it is outside the spinal cord it is normally a very agressive cancer, but I will never know. Several months ago I treated a spot on my forehead and ankle. The spot on the forhead was small and came out within a week. The one on the leg developed into a quarter size reaction area and it would not heal. After alot of trepidation I went to a dermatologist who cauterized the wound. At first glance he said that it looked like a brown reculse spider bite but when I told him how it got there he didn't have much to say and said that I shouldn't use the product. What else could he say? I don't know what happened with the one on my ankle, but it made me very ill also. I have done alot of reading on black salves and other cancer salves and they have a pretty deep history. Like many I just wish there could be some scientific studies done to see exactly what type of tissue it reacts with. I have read small mention of these type products reacting with tissue infected with fungi, virus and bacteria. I am not really concerned about convincing the established medical community. After the 2 very serious reactions I had, I am more cautious in using it. There is a book called "Cancer Salves" that had led me to a better understanding about cancers in general, but what she says is true...approach these salves with alot of respect and research. NEVER smear an area with the salves just to see if something is there. There seems to be a network that I could never connect to that probably has more help and info on the use of these, but could never find a practitioner in Texas. They all seem to be on the west coast. If there are any homeopaths, ND, etc., in my area I could never find one. Well that is my story on cancer salves. I believe they work, but I also believe that there is more to them and it would be nice if I could get some answers on the reactions that occured on my leg and back. Be totally informed before you use the salves, come to your decision to use it by your research, not on someone elses. And have potent pain meds available. You don't want to get half way into treating one of these and decide you can't take the pain. Good Luck.


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Posted by Jerry (California) on 08/19/2016
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WORKED TEMPORARILY

I have used cansema for my basal cell carcinoma. Initially, 3 years ago I had to use it 2 times and it worked great, but about 6 months ago it came back in the same place, so I used cansema again, but now the cancer keeps returning again and again. So I have to find another way to get rid of it.

Has anyone else had a basal cell cancer that keeps coming back, and tried something else that worked? I would appreciate any advice.

Replied by Janet
In
08/19/2016

Jerry,

You may have seen Ole Robert Henry's posts here on Earth Clinic. He has posted a great eggplant recipe that may help. Janet

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
08/20/2016

Jerry, mine hasn't come back (yet) but I figured something must be causing/feeding it. So I now eat almost exclusively, homemade stuff.

Replied by Carol
Pa
12/20/2016

Everyone seems to respond to different things. You may have to work harder to get rid of yours. I will suggest reading about apricot kernals for the b12. Hydrogen peroxide therapy. Even negative thoughts. Nutrition can be a big part of the healing process. Also exercise. Some people have to pull out all stops while others get sucess quickly with only a couple changes or treatments. Good luck. I know its hard because it will take a lot of self disipline.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
12/21/2016

CAROL, darling I love you, but you must read some more. Apricot kernels are B 17, not B 12. Don't sweat the problem because I have done far worse....... as the folks on EC can tell you. You are thinking about your health that that beats the heck out of most folks. Keep reading and you can post again and again. I wish you well,,,,,,,,,,,

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Posted by Elle (Cape ) on 02/21/2018
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For treatment of basal cell carcinoma please google Curaderm which is based from eggplant. You can research it and order it online. It is approved for usage in treatment of basal cell carcinoma in Australia. US FDA has not approved it (of course because it is much cheaper ) than the protocol that US MD's will recommend. Read the Curaderm website. I have personally used Curaderm multiple times with success that has given me 100% satisfaction. When I see a suspect site on my skin, I go to a dermatologist and have a biopsy. If the lab confirms that it is basal cell, I use the Curaderm. The dermatologist that I go to confirmed that he knows about Curaderm, but since it is not US FDA approved he can not recommend it. It is important to continue the application of the cream for the full cycle of destruction of the cancer cells and renewal of healthy skin. It may take day 21 days or longer depending on your situation.

Good luck.


Posted by Dee (Lake Arrowhead) on 10/26/2017
3 out of 5 stars

I used curaderm 3 years ago and was very successful, last year I had another spot and it did not work after more than 6 months of applying it day and night!!!

I am looking for something else? I hope the Apple Cider Vinegar will work!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
10/27/2017

CURADERM WORKS, but it does not for Melanoma. I would go to dermatologist and Have it analyzed. Melanoma will put you in the grave. =====ORH====


Posted by Ana (Alpharetta, Ga ) on 08/16/2017

I have a tiny BCC on my left cheek right under the eye. I was thinking about using Curaderm cream. Has anyone used it on that area? Does it leave a scar there since the skin is very thin in that area. Thanks

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile
08/17/2017

HI U ANA AND OTHERS INTERESTED IN TREATING SKIN CANCER. I have used Curaderm for a number of years. I first bought and read Dr.Cham's book, " THE EGGPLANT CANCER CURE". Not only is the book educational, but it is also very interesting as how the Australian government first helped him and then tried to put him in jail when his cure took business away from the dermatologists.

There are numerous color photos and one is exactly where you say your cancer is.....right under the eye. The photos how the before and after so you can see that there is little or no scaring. My advice to all is to buy this book and read it 3X's. You add the cream and cover it with micropore tape. If your site is indeed cancer then a black scab will eventually form and fall off when the cancer is gone. Mine are usually gone is a month or so. The cancer is usually far larger than it appears on the surface. There are numerous sites on the net reviewing all of the above.

I wish you well.

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