Discovering the Health Benefits of BHT: New Research and Findings

I just ordered the EC crystal form of BHT and wonder if I can mix it with the MSM and diatomaceous earth mixture I drink at night?

Hi Deirdre, are you taking it as an anti aging / general health supplement, or to eradicate a virus?

Hi Tom (83), do you mean 1,000mg not 100mg. Capsules available are usually 180mg each, and not cheap at all.

That's it!! I'm starting BHT on a regular basis from now on. Maybe by the time I get to 80, I'll only look 70!! What formula do you use?

I would love to use BHT for anti-aging. However, all we've got is anecdotal evidence. Folks, the bottom line is that there is no scientific proof that BHT will extend your life.

References:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4045049/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6685406/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1010948/pdf/westjmed00192-0093b.pdf

A trial with 8 rats fed BHT from weaning produced a 45% increase in lifespan. The trial was done by Dr Denham Harman at the University of Nebraska in 1972.

So happy to hear from you, Oscar! I hope you are feeling well and gaining strength every day. We have missed your wise words and extensive knowledge. Take care and keep in touch if you can. Please let us know if you need anything.

Greetings Oscar and thank you for your comments on the anti aging properties of BHT as well as such extensive work on liver issues.

Your thoughts and comments on the following regiment to lower liver enzymes (ALT and AZT) would be greatly appreciated:

• LifeLink BHT - 250mg - 2xdaily - (morning and evening)
• MegaFood Selenium (S. cerevisiae) - 50mcg - 1xdaily - (morning)
• Nature's Answer Extra Virgin Coconut Oil - 1000mg - 2x2xdaily - (morning and evening)
• Bio Nutrition Moringa - 5000mg - 2xdaily - (morning and afternoon)

Again my sincere thanks and gratitude for your experience, absolute genius in treating your liver issues and for the courage to bless everyone with the information you've gleaned from life.

Looking forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience and hope you nJOY a terrific Thursday and week!

Namaste with Love and Light

Hi Oscar,

I am so grateful for all your posts and information on BHT. I've been looking for years for something to eliminate viruses. I have Fibromyalgia, Hashimotos, ElectroHypersensitivity, EBV, Herpes and a lot of other issues. The herpes virus has been so virulent that when I get a flare up now, it starts in my lower back, whips right up the side of the nervous system it's going to break out on, gives me the most severe headaches I've ever had, and severe neck inflammation. The outbreaks have become horrific and I know these viruses have way too much power in my body. I have ordered the BHT and am so excited to see what it can do for me. I had to wean myself off 35,000mgs Milk Thistle and have done this over the last few weeks. I will add St Johns Wart too and update my progress.

I wonder if the natural occurring BHT is in the Irish Moss currently in vogue?

Hi Oscar,

I started BHT yesterday 200 mg. The reason I'm trying it is I have crazy symptoms but bloodwork is fine. 4 year nightmare. I've tried so many things with no help. Possibly maybe fungus systemic? I'm just lost so I thought I'd give this a try. Today I'm feeling very sick to my stomach. Do you know if this can happen? Thank you so much.

I have been using BHT dissolved in coconut oil for years. I use the refined coconut oil exclusively because the traces of water, minerals and proteins in the raw coconut oil are catalysts for oxidation reactions and will shorten its shelf life. I use it primarily for topical applications (10% by weight, up to 15% by weight in warm climates) because I have good bile and can absorb oral BHT efficiently without need for pre-dissolving it. But if you are missing your gall bladder, have problems with higher-fat diets and difficulty absorbing fat-soluble nutrients, or just do not get good results with BHT in capsules or crystals, there is no reason why you couldn't use coconut oil to take oral BHT. I prefer it because of its low level of unsaturation. I even brush my teeth with it.

I've used coconut oil for 15 years or more, and I do not think CNOil by itself dissolves the lipid coating of virii. I've heard that CNOil derivatives such as Monoloaurin (ML) and Lauricidin (LC) do.

I could not tolerate ML and LC. They seemed to cause bacterial imbalances in my GI tract, possibly by killing off the good bacteria and enabling the bad bacteria to multiply.

I have been using BHT at high doses of 2,000mg/day. At lower doses it was supportive but not nearly as effective for my herpes and other immune related symptoms as higher doses. It's been like a miracle. Unfortunately however, I am getting side effects at this high dosage - a constant rash on my face and diarrhea.

From the BHT book, it sounds like I may either be reacting to possible impurities, or I need to bypass the digestive track. So I am going to try and make the topical oil using refined coconut oil.

How exactly do you do this?? What does the 10-15% by weight mean? Am I to weight the coconut oil and then weight out 10-15% of BHT to oil ratio?

Also, what brand are you using? I am using the Whole Sale Nutrition brand, but am concerned given my side effects that it contains impurities. I know I could try the activated charcoal, but that seems a bit tricky given that I will have no idea how much BHT I end up taking since the charcoal will absorb some amount of the BHT, if not all of it.

Thanks!!!

Dear Daniela [ California ], Why not at least give the much lower dose BHT treatment I have discussed here so VERY many times now a try?

In my opinion: BHT taken with water only on an empty stomach is MUCH more effective than mixing BHT in ANY and ALL OILS. Also: 2,000mg per day is way TOO much BHT. BHT is not safe at such large doses.

I don`t know how much you weigh. The dosage I have discussed is 250mg of BHT per day for people who weigh 125 pounds or less. For those who weigh 150 pounds or more a second dose of 250mg of BHT MIGHT be required. Also: Any time adverse reactions occur LOWER the amount of BHT used.

Why not at least TRY the BHT with water only on an empty stomach method a try at the much lower doses I have discussed? That is what worked for me and others....Oscar

Hi Oscar,

Thanks for replying. Yes, I have already tried the lower doses of BHT. I tried doses of 250mg-1000mg for 2 months. It did help, but I was still getting some amount of tingling, burning and itching consistently even at 1,000 mg. And, yes I take it on an empty stomach with only water.

Lower doses were preventing a larger outbreak, but I was always on alert since I still had symptoms, and if the symptoms got a little worse then I would feel forced to resort to using the Acyclovir ointment (which I had to use with some regularity).

As per my doctors suggestion, I entered in St. John's Wort and Lauricidin in July and that helped to lessen symptoms even more (along with the lower dosages of BHT), but I wasn't "cured". Then in mid-August, after a very stressful event and symptoms worsening, I decided to up the dosage to 2,000 mg (which is what the BHT Book says is the very maximum safe dosage). I am getting my liver enzymes checked regularly by my doctor - all is OK so far. That's when my herpes symptoms went away completely! That high dosage actually worked, and despite major grief and loss, I was feeling more energetic and healthier over-all on this dose. But I also developed the side effects (rash and diarrhea).

After 6 weeks of feeling a lot better, but also dealing with these side effects, I lowered my dose to 1,000mg per day again and within several days I got a canker sore (not sure if this is related, but the haven't had a canker sore since childhood), plus a tiny amount of tingling came back. Sigh.

Because of my side effects, I'm keeping my dose lower anyway, but I am not clear this will work well enough for my viral issues, since symptoms are re-appearing already. My oral herpes symptoms are much more extreme than most. I am one of those more sensitive people. And I have chronic immune-related issues in general. What works for some people, does not work for all people. So, I need to try something else. I am already working with many of the nutritional protocols that the BHT book discusses, but will keep experimenting.

Steve - I'd love to understand what "10-15% by weight" means when making the oil mixture?? I don't understand this. How do you take it once dissolved in oil? Topically or orally? And what dosage does this Oil Mixture end up being both topically or orally? I know you say in the book that dosage is uncertain when applying topically, but any ideas at least?? I don't know where to start with this.

And does anyone know what brands are more "pure"? Has anyone tried using the activated charcoal as described in the BHT book to remove impurities?

Thanks!

Dear Jennifer from, Albany New york. You do not state what disease you are or are considering treating with BHT. I have never claimed BHT is a treatment for peripheral Neuropathy.

I am going to assume you are considering or using BHT for one of the viral hepatitis diseases because is mostly what I discuss. Hepatitis often leads to some degree of peripheral neuropathy. We have had at least a few members in our group discuss it.

I recall an " Art from Vancouver " discussing BHT and PN at length in this forum. He had hepatitis C and had undergone the peg-interferon + ribavron treatments without success and much damage to his body including PN. For him the BHT seemed to help a lot with PN. Now you need to start with the lower dosages of BHT and find a dosage you are comfortable with. We have had many success stories from people using 250mg to 500mg of BHT per day. Lightweight and thin people seem to do best at about 250mg of BHT per day.

Here is a link to our group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info

If that link does not work: Google: THE BHT CURES CHAT GROUP. Once there click JOIN THIS GROUP and follow the instructions ...Oscar

You're right Oscar.

I am dealing with Peripheral Neuropathy and Diabetes #2 which is the result of interferon. Just google the side effects and see for yourself. It saddens me to think there are still people who will take that stuff as prescribed by doctors whose only concern is money. The BHT at 350mg per day on an empty stomach lowered my liver enzymes and gratefully cured my brain fog and flue like symptoms. Now I can eat chicken without feeling like I am getting the flu, and I thought it was my sister's cooking. LOL.

Now at this time I take R+ALA for the PN and Chanca Piedra for the pain in the lower lobe of my liver on my left side which by the way started after my biopsy back in 2002. Today I am having a good day but there are some bad ones where energy and stamina are very low. My Alt is 55 AST 51 GGT 32 because stupid me had to get a shingles vaccine out of worry. I am sure my numbers will drop some more if they can find a vein to draw blood from. There are few who can and now they are no longer there. I do appreciate Oscar for all his suggestions and hope he can put all his wonderful info in one column.

Having a good day. Art.

I do appreciate

Dear Art, I have never forgotten you. As far as treating hepatitis C goes: Keeping the treatment simple is what works best. But you have two other serious conditions that cannot be ignored: neuropathy and diabetes type 2. You can`t go wrong with drinking distilled water and doing moderate exercise. Both are important along with a healthy diet.

Is there some sport such as fishing you enjoy? Hiking and bicycle riding are really good for you. Bike riding is actually kind of exciting and hiking enjoyable. As corny as it sounds: Bird photography can add to both as far as enjoyment goes. Just bring a decent camera along with you.

We are about the same age. We both have to find real things that make our lives enjoyable. Sitting around and feeling pain is not good. Finding activities that keep us physically active that we enjoy is vitally important. It is all too easy to fall into self destructive depression at our age. I see it happen to so many people, myself included....Oscar

Just wanted to add to Oscar's post that anything that gets you out of doors is beneficial. You get sunshine, your interest is attracted by nature's scenery--all of this takes your mind off your pain. Even in the city, people watching is diverting.

Hi Oscar,

I cannot tolerate ML or LC [monolaurin and lauricidin]. When I first went on ML, it improved my mental clarity in a major way, but later on it began to mess up my GI tract and cause me to have to avoid certain high carb foods. I talked to at least one other person that said "ML causes yeast" to form in the GI tract. They claim it doesn't, but it surely did with me. I would never take ML or LC again.

Hi Oscar,

Thank you for posting such specific and scientific information! I was just recently diagnosed with herpes 2. Instead of feeling sorry for myself, I figured I would check out as many treatment options as possible and make the best of the situation.

I haven't taken Valtrax yet, but I did get a prescription for it. Do you know of others with my condition that have taken BHT? If so, do they still have outbreaks if they were taking it daily? And finally would you consider BHT to be safer than Valtrax?

Oscar.... I want to try the BHT therapy, but need a brand that does not contain fillers such as cellulose, magnesium Sterate, or silicon dioxide. All of these upset my stomach. Any recommendations on brands that do NOT contain any filling/additive agents? TIA.

Hello Mimih, This is the first time I even heard of BHT being sold mixed with fillers. As far as I know the brands: VRP [ Vitamin Research Products ] and " LifeLinks " both sell BHT in or as a product with a very high degree of purity. So there are two brands that seem reliable from all I have heard....Oscar

Lifelinks BHT is not pure BHT. Some type of powder with very little crystals mixed in, powder must be silica and some other filler because I'm allergic to silica and get symptoms of silica allergy from taking this lifelink BHT.

I spoke with seller at Lifelinks before purchasing and they assured me that their product was pure and contained "ONLY BHT". After I took one capsule and got reaction. I spoke with the same person and he was defensive and told me that they have different sources and it comes in "different forms" other than pure crystals. I don't trust this company at all now, my capsules are a mixture of crystals and powder.

Dear oscar, pls how can I chat you privately?

Where can I get the BHT drug to buy? I need it ugently

Dear Ahenkora from Ghana: Here is a company that claims a worldwide distribution:

http://www.nutri.com/index.cfm/product/31_17/butylated-hydroxytoluene-bht.cfm?gclid=CNaYjOb9xLUCFQyg4AodHloAww

If that company does not sell to Ghana you need to google search for one that does. I hope that company sells to Ghana. If not you will have to find your own source for BHT....Oscar

It appears that the older version of the book is still online at Project Wellbeing. Thanks to Oscar for posting this. The newest version is available here: http://www.projectwellbeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/BHTbook-StevenWmFowkes-1410161.pdf. I edit the book every year or two to include new information and insights. I also invite feedback.

There can be a problem with direct links. They take you to a specific version of the book. To be sure to get the latest version, just go to the steve page at project wellbeing (dot com) and click on the latest version posted on that page.

Let me reiterate that there are old versions of The BHT Book all over the Internet. The so-far foolproof way to get the latest version is to go to the Steve page at the Project Wellbeing website and download it. This post on Earth Clinic is being made in 2022, and the latest version is 2021. But keep in mind that the book has been updated every 2-3 years since the paleozoic era [insert chuckle here], and you might be reading this in 2032, or 2132.

A few other altering factors are (1) that SARS-CoV-2 has been added to the list of lipid-enveloped viruses, (2) that C@v! D includes at-least-occasional neurological symptoms, and (3) that HPV, a non-enveloped virus, has had positive reports of benefit. So new information may be even more important than in past editions.

http://projectwellbeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/BHTbook-StevenWmFowkes-200302.pdf

I asked about cellulose one time and as I recall, it is what is used to make vegetarian gelatin capsules (as in taking powdered herbs, etc in capsule form). The alternative form would be traditional natural bovine gelatin which is made from boiled animal bones, which are much healthier. I'm not totally 100% positive I remember that correctly but I did ask a pharmacist and that's what I remember and understood since I learned about the process in a nutritional course. Many times I open the vegetarian capsules which have more of a harder plastic like feeling than bovine and stir the contents into juice. Sad to see the older healthier methods outdated in favor of a cheaper to made product.

I like the idea of powdered BHT for maximizing its absorption in the absence of fat. Cellulose is a filler, as Oscar writes, but it is also an anti-caking agent, which would keep the BHT from gluing itself back together. This happens naturally when BHT is warmed up too far. Even a UPS truck sitting in the summer sun can get hot enough to fuse BHT, powder or granules. But BHT also gets compressed in capsule-filling machines, which use mechanical screws to pack the powders into capsules. This will partially fuse BHT, unless you use an anti-caking agent. Cellulose is a fiber which only a few people contaminated with termite microbes can digest. So most people do not have a problem with it. Veggie-caps are made from methyl-cellulose, which is slightly different. There is one situation where powdered BHT is not the best choice: viral diseases of the gut, particularly the colon. One person with intestinal CMV was cured by coarse BHT made by pouring molten BHT into cracked ice. She was able to see undissolved BHT nuggets in the toilet, which was the goal: to have BHT present all the way down the GI tract. Her doctors had tried the gamut of antiviral drugs and had given up, stating that she should get her affairs in order. But three days on coarse-granular BHT had her chronic diarrhea resolving completely. Frankly, I was surprised by how well it worked.

Hi

On other site, exactly that BHT from wholesail nutrition was recomended to buy. So now I am confused, which of the BHT should I buy? I prefer pure one. Or crystals are more powerfull? Thanks

Hello and thank you for this post. Do you know the process of how to make BHT molten and then pour it into ice? I have a family member that has chronic viral infection of the gut and I think this method would help. Just unsure of how to get the BHT molten and then how to use it with ice. If possible, please clarify the procedure or technique. Much appreciated!

Put BHT crystals in a double boiler and heat until it liquifies. Then pour it into cracked ice. That's what I did. I've also done it with a microwave oven, but you have to be careful not to use too much power.

You could also pour the molten BHT onto a flat surface and then break it up after it has solidified in a layer. Some people have poured molten BHT into gelatin or methylcellulose capsules to avoid tasting it.

I think you could pour molten BHT into refrigerator-cold water and have it solidify rather quickly. The slower you pour it, the thinner the stream. And the lower the temperature of the molten BHT, the faster it will solidify.

BHT melts at 158F (70C), which is well below the boiling temperature of water. So the double-boiler works great.

The purest BHT is food grade bulk BHT, which several online vendors sell. No binders, fillers or excipients at all. However, food-grade BHT can have a half-percent impurity, which when taking gram quantities amounts to milligrams of non-BHT compounds. There is a relatively simple way to make these trace impurities less absorbable: add activated charcoal to your BHT. It makes the BHT taste like charcoal briquettes, so you might want to crush it up and put it into gelatin capsules. Use food-grade or pharmaceutical charcoal. The charcoal has a high surface area which will equally attract the impurities AND the BHT. But since BHT is plentiful and the impurities not, the impurities are more likely to be bound to the charcoal. It's a bit messy, but nothing that you cannot do in your kitchen.

Katie,

I doubt that BHT and coffee are in any way contraindicated. In 45 years of collecting feedback, this issue has never come up. There is some reason to suspect that coffee may have a mild pro-viral effect, it being an herbal extract with overall alkalinizing properties. But I am reluctant to say that such an effect is worth worrying about, partly due to the initial acidifying effects of coffee, and caffeine to cause thermogenesis (increased mitochondrial flux).

I am struggling with HV2 and want to start BHT to see if it woud help. It feels it is in all of the nerves in my spine especially cranial nerves, so I also get migraines. I am on high dose of valtrex (2g per day) but if I try to lower the dose the flare up is unbearable. Do you have any suggestions about being on VALTRX and trying BHT?

Dear Louisa from Chicago, Because you are using VALTEX I assume HV2 is one of the Herpes viruses. I have have NO way of knowing how well BHT will work with VALTREX. If YOU choose to try using the two together I can only advise doing so with care. By that I mean starting out with low dosages of BHT. Those BHT capsules are easy to pull apart. So you can start out with half or less a capsule of BHT per day and see for yourself how the two work together. If no advese reactions occur you can work up to one capsule of BHT per day. And from there you can go to the larger doses of BHT [ two capsules per day ]. Just be careful and see how the two work together for you. Valtrex itself is known to cause headaches for some people. Side effects of valtrex are discussed here:

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-14126-Valtrex+Oral.aspx

Trying to help, ...Oscar

Ok, I have started with 200-250ml morning only. At first I felt more energy, less pain. By third day, some of the anxiety talked about as possible side effect. I have reduced to 200mg morning only. I will stay with this awhile, and when I feel "stabilized" I will try to reduce the valtrex. Also taking monolaurin and Vit B's. I will post my progress. Thanks!

I took food grade hydrogen peroxide 35% for 6 months drinking it with distilled water. It has made my genital herpes type 1 WORSE. I now have symptoms everyday. I am thinking of taking BHT but want to know how long must I take it for to see results? Also do I need to take it forever?

Dear Leanne from Australia, The BHT works very well for all types of herpes virus, genital and non-genital. Many thousands of people have been using it to treat herpes successfully since at least the early 1980s. It [ BHT ] works best if taken with water only on an empty stomach. Also: keep this treatment simple for best results. Do NOT be using other supplements. The only supplement I consider OK to use with BHT as an anti-viral is a standard multivitamin and mineral supplement. I ran a BHT CURES group for about two years and keeping the treatment simple is what works best based on the substantial feedback I received. As far as how long it takes to truly CURE a herpes infection: It is different for each person. Usually at least 2 or 3 years. The results are often immediate, within a few days the sores disappear. But, if you stop taking the BHT the outbreaks reoccur. This BHT does not cost very much. About 40 to 50 dollars a YEAR or less. Also BHT has been proven to extend the average lifespan of mice by as much as 50%. That is because BHT prevents cancer and viral diseases if used in sensible dosages. No more than 500mg of BHT per day for most people. The less you weigh the less you need or desire. And the more you weigh the more you need. The same is true of any medicine. The reason is obvious and needs no explanation. There is MORE or less of you depending on how much you weigh. Also because BHT acummilates in fat tissues, lean, thin people need less and fatter people need more. For a person who weighs 125 pounds or less about 250mg of BHT per day is about right. You may have to play around with the dosage a bit to learn what works best for you....Oscar

To ALL trying the BHT treatment for all viral hepatitis diseases and or other viral diseases such as the different herpes viruses.

Please do take notice that I now advise against taking vitamin B12 supplements. I do know I at one time advocated the use of vitamin B12 supplements. That was biggest mistake I made regarding the BHT treatment.

The reason I now advise against using vitamin B12 supplements along with the BHT treatment is because those who did just that experienced a large increase in those viral load counts.

Adult people only need 2mcg to 3mcg of vitamin B12 per day. That is micrograms and not milligrams. 1mg=1,000mcg.

So what is the harm in taking excessive amounts of vitamin B12 ?

Because vitamin B12 has 6 amino [ NH2 ] groups and is a very large molecule it acts as a BHT metabolite scavenger. It combines with said BHT metabolites by way of a peptide bond. The metabolites of BHT [ the altered compounds of BHT that enter the bloodstream ] have the so called " carboxyl group ". This combining of the amino group with the carboxyl group is called a peptide bond. This probably involves enzymes designed to do just that.

Also and importantly: unlike most vitamins, vitamin B12 RECYCLES itself. So even seemingly tiny amounts of B12 can scavenge large amounts of the metabolites of BHT.

To penetrate those viral lipid coatings said BHT metabolites have to be small enough to do so. Said metabolites also have to be lipid seekers. So called lipophilic chemical entities.

I want to clear up this mistake I made. So for best results do NOT take vitamin B12 supplements if using BHT to treat viral diseases.

In defense of myself: I was under a lot of pressure from that BHT cures group I used to lead to add vitamin B12 and many other supplements to the BHT treatment. This is one of the reasons I ended that group. I got fed up with being pressured to add this that and some other thing to the treatment.

All I ever used to treat myself was the BHT. I was also taking an occasional multi-vitamin and some vitamin C now and then.

That is what worked for me and many others including an AIDS patient who was also infected with hepatitis C. He was taking the drug combo " COMPLERA " for his AIDS infection and BHT for his hepatitis C infection. He cut his HCV viral load in half in ONE WEEK using BHT as I recommend....Oscar

This is in response to Oscar's comments re B12. This is my first time posting here, prompted by an email querry by one of your members.

(1) Oscar states that viral loads go up with B12. I've never see this. But most of the reports I get do not include PCR data. Those that I have seen, in which viral loads go down not up, did not have a control with/without B12.

(2) B12 does not have six amino groups. I am an organic chemist, so I can state that the six amine-containing groups on B12 are amide groups, not amine groups. Amide groups are poorer nucleophiles than amine groups by far, and even amine groups do not react with acid groups (on "BHT metabolites") to form "peptide bonds." It takes strong pH, extreme dehydration or enzymatic catalysis to form peptide bonds, none of which would apply to living human beings.

(3) Oscar states that B12 is recycled and that this means is would scavenge huge amount of BHT metabolites. Yes, B12 is recycled. But it is the cobalt site that is regenerated, not the "amide" side chains. If there were BHT metabolites bound to the six B12 amide groups, these linkages would have to be recycled, which is not only a different kind of recycling, but would result in the release the BHT metabolites intact from the hydrolysis of the linkages, which would be a reversible "condensation polymerization" reaction. So while Oscar may be right about B12, his explanation is not.

My very positive reports on B12 efficacy were mostly generated by people for whom BHT alone did not work well. So I can see a possibility that there might be reverse situations where BHT might be sabotaged by B12, which would never be reported to me as such. I shut down a severe case of trigeminal shingles in 48 hours with BHT and 10 mg B12. With that kind of efficacy, I would not have cared if my viral titers went high temporarily.

Dear Mr. Fowkes, This group NEEDS you. Steven Fowkes is the author of " The BHT Book " for those that do not know that. I am no longer up for trying to deal with the questions asked of me. I was badly injured and my health is not what it used to be....Oscar

Oscar, I am now registered and will be able to provide limited feedback. Please feel free to write to me directly.

I am responding to Oscar's request 25.10.2013 in the thread at earthclinic.com/remedies/BHT.html for details of treatments with BHT.
I have been suffering with chronic HSV1 in the pelvic region for several years, the result of which is that it has lead to worsening and debilitating symptoms of constant daily nerve pain, prostatitis, burning, itching, hip-pain, lack of balance, paraesthesia, bladder difficulties, back ache and many others. The list of symptoms I have recorded over time, almost seems incredible, even when I now review it myself. In addition, there has also been male-dysfunction due to its effect on the autonomic nervous system and also neuromuscular control. I have been self-treating with valacyclovir and acyclovir, which mediates almost all of the symptoms, at least those which have not suffered long-term damage and this has enabled me to prove to myself that HSV has been causative in these symptoms.

None of the doctors I have seen in Thailand have been helpful and as is usual here, unwilling to do any research or go out of their way to help. So I have spent the last three years at least, carrying out my own research using herbal remedies, energy medicine, Rife-therapy, ozone therapy, cold-laser, Bob Beck protocol and some others. In doing so, I have made several overseas trips in order to obtain treatment in other countries, which isn't available in Thailand. I have learned a great deal and feel that I have gained a sufficient amount of information to be able to help others (at least to a limited extent) but most of the treatment, with the possible exception of ozone therapy, has not helped me very much, although it has often at first responded to the treatments.

My condition is slightly unusual in that there never was very much in terms of classic herpes lesions - instead the skin remained erythmatous and sore for several years - but the virus's effect on my nerves has been enormous and quite shocking. I have read many other posters' comments online (on Medhelp for example), suggesting that I am by no means alone and also suggesting that HSV1, in contrast to HSV2, may contribute to more chronic symptoms in the pelvic region. Many others for example have indicated that HSV1 has not always caused open lesions, but nevertheless has caused considerable ongoing nerve pain.

The condition has sometimes caused me great distress and depression, to the extent that I have been unable to face life sometimes. It has also caused me to become reclusive and almost stop work completely. Not only has there been the inconvenience of the condition itself, but the fact that it never goes into remission, as it is reported to do and that it has caused so much damage physiologically. I can never get the problem out of my mind, unfortunately. The impact it has had on my life for the past seven years has been almost implausible.

Whenever I attempt to treat the condition, whether it may be using L-lysine, high-dose vitamin C, St. John's Wort, coconut oil, intravenous ozone, Rife-therapy or others, the symptoms usually improve for a day or two, then return to normal. This has been the hallmark of my condition. It appears that my case is unusual and the level of virulence is such that treatment is largely ineffective. I now have a supply of BHT here at home (after a very long wait) and began treatment three days ago, injesting it with heated olive oil. During the following morning after the first dose of 180mg, my pain had reduced to almost zero. This follows a recent claim from a neurologist at Samitivej Hospital in Bangkok, claiming that the virus had probably caused permanent lesions in my nerves and that recovery could not therefore be expected - and that he could do nothing for me. He refuted the idea that the virus is permanently active but was rather fond of telling me "what was indicated for treatment and what was not". Yet after taking BHT, the nerves were quietened. I have not been completely pain-free since beginning this therapy last week, but it appears to have contributed very well. I am still taking daily acyclovir - I do not know whether to stop it. But since using BHT three days ago, I have been able to reduce acyclovir from 400mg x 4 per day, to only x 2 per day, without suffering the usual worsening pain some 4 hours after dosage.

I am however somewhat confused by the advice given in some of the posts by Oscar and others, relating to BHT - they suggest taking BHT with water only, on an empty stomach, while Steven Fowkes seems to highly recommend taking it with oil, given that it is oil-soluable. In other posts, the use of vitamin B12 is suggested, while in another Oscar mentions that it may not be good to do so. Similarly, vitamin E is suggested in Steven Fowkes' book, while in other places, vitamin E is discouraged.

This is what I am taking at the moment, per day, although I'm cognisant that Oscar suggests taking as little supplementation as possible, in order to help BHT do its work.

Acyclovir 400mg x 3Vitamin C powdered form, several grams x 2 times per day
Zinc 50mg
Alpha R-Lipoic acid, 400mg - nerve repair
Folic acid, 50 mg
Selenium 200mcg x 2 times per day
Bee Propolis 500g x 2 times per day
Omega 3 fish oil, 2 grams x 2 times per day
Hypericum (St. John's Wort), regularly chewed
L-Carnitine Fumarate, 3.42 grams - nerve repair
BHT 720mg
Vitamin A, 10,000 IU (with each BHT dose)
Vitamin D3,5,000 IU (with each BHT dose)
Q10,29mg (a poor quality Thai product unfortunately)

I also inject intramuscularly, the following, once per day.

Vitamin B6,100mgVitamin B12,2000mcg

Naturally, I would of course like to reduce this preposterous amount of supplementation. I will post further on results, but appreciate likewise any suggestions for refining this treatment.

I have been taking BHT since 22-Oct-15, so just eight or nine days so far. During the first day or two of taking BHT powder with olive oil, at 360mg, it really felt like I was recovering from seven years' nerve pain. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that my numbness and burning feeling, was finally resolved.

By way of background, I suffer constant PHN (Post-herpetic neuralgia), from all these years of constant viral activity. I normally need to take three daily doses of 400mg acyclovir. Without this therapeutic dose of acyclovir, every day, pain gradually worsens - it's a burning, stinging, pressing, knawing and stabbing, right in the end of the male anatomy. Numbness then follows and that is always the worst thing, together with an unusual and very noticeable flaccidity (lack of blood flow to that area). There is also a nerve pain in my hip, related to herpes too. That pain began some years ago when a few weeks of particularly strong viral activity caused widespread pelvic pain. The hip pain never left me after that, although it is resolved briefly with anti-virals, like all the other symptoms. There is also severe itching to the skin around the area, resolves after taking acyclovir.

So, more importantly, to provide an update on the past week's treatment, BHT roughly provides the same therapeutic benefit to me, as acyclovir, but it works in a supportive way for me - not as a replacement for the anti-viral. Initially, when I began BHT, the improvement on my nerve (thought to be the pudendal nerve) was amazing and I had a return of function again, no numbness and no pain. After two days or so, however, the benefit lessened and the symptoms returned. I then began to increase my dose, from 360mg x 2 per day, to three times per day. That helped a little. At times during the past week, if pain has been very severe, rather than take more acyclovir, I have instead increased my BHT, to 540mg per dose, therefore taking the opportunity of experimenting a little and testing the efficacy of BHT. From this, I found that by my third dose of BHT (a total for the day of 1,260mg), pain then eventually subsided for a while, about 30 - 60 minutes after dosage. Pain then eventually returns after an hour or so.

So, I find myself really quite stuck, not knowing how to make the most of BHT at this moment. Do I increase my dosage further? Do I simply allow more time for BHT to take effect? Do I try the rectal insufflation? In Steven Fowkes' book, he mentions rectal insufflation but he does not elaborate on what exactly must be done. I am familiar with ozone rectal insufflation - but by contrast that is quite easy when one is familiar with ozone therapy. How does one carry out insufflation with a powder?

I hope someone can help me out here, please. Perhaps if Steven is able to comment, within a reasonably short period of time, that would be excellent. I don't mean to sound negative, but I note that one of the posters above, Jnanasutra, posted a request for help on 9/24/2014, and was replied to one year later, on 9/23/2015. I hope therefore that as a group, we may make better progress than that. Many thanks.

Jimster,

There is a general attenuation of BHT's effects in most people over time. This is a homeostatic adaptation mechanism and it works on all manner of things. The body automatically compensates for any "deviation" from homeostasis.

BHT works by altering the balance between metabolic states that I'll call catabolic-aerobic-acidic (the antiviral side of the balance) and anabolic-anaerobic-alkaline (the pro-viral side). So if you think of a teeter totter, the viral-susceptible person has their teeter totter naturally (or not) tipped towards proviral dominance. BHT puts weight on the other side of the teeter totter to tip it away from that pro-viral state.

But there is strength and depth for the anabolic-anaerobic-alkaline state. There is also compensation. The body can defend the pro-viral state for many reasons, many of which are hard to figure out, and others of which may seem nonsensical. There can be involvement of heavy metal toxicity, mitochondrial problems, hypothyroidism, chemical toxicities, epigenetic influences, genetic polymorphisms, primary nutritional deficiencies, secondary "sequestration" deficiencies of copper, iron and zinc, and more.

BHT is not a remedy for any of these. It is a general catabolic-aerobic-acidic agent, and an antioxidant. BHT can no more compensate for a magnesium-and-D3 deficiency than a beta-blocker drug can. All it can do is "balance" the imbalance. Most of the time, the underlying factors that may be "causing" the pro-viral imbalance remain in effect. Not always, but often.

There can be an entrainment effect. For example, some people who are given anesthetics for surgeries or traumas entrain to a lower basal metabolic rate. This further lowers their body temperature and aggravates their symptoms of cold hands and feet, constipation, loss of vagal tone, sleeping problems and depression. And increases their viral susceptibility. But BHT can break this entrainment. So can a few doses of thyroid hormone, some exercise, and/or a series of biofeedback trainings.

The pro-viral metabolic state (anabolic-anaerobic-alkaline) is also pro-autoimmune, pro-allergy, pro-depression, pro-fibromyalgia, pro-inflammatory. This is why people with such conditions have a higher risk of viral diseases.

Even though the dynamics of this kind of metabolic balance are complicated, the core concept is simple. There is a linear continuum between anabolic and catabolic and you are too far on one side. The strategy is equally simple: move towards the other side.

There are a hundred ways to do this; BHT is only one.

If this sounds intriguing enough that you want to follow up, read the BHT Book. It's free. It's a PDF document posted on the "steve" page at Project Wellbeing (dot com). And while you are there, feel free to download the thyroid one-pager, which discusses one of the most likely medical misdiagnoses associated with viral susceptibility.

If you want a more timely response to a posting here, copy the post and send it to me at Project Wellbeing. Steve at projectwellbeing dot com. It really helps me to know which page to search.

The interface here may poor, but the information is world class. Keep on posting.

Hi everyone, first time posting here. I hope this group is still active, as it seems to be the only one I can find!

Just looking for some clarification on the next steps I should take.

I've suffered from oral herpes as long as I can remember.

I've been taking BHT for 3 years (750mg/day), and for the past 2 years now have been taking St. John's Wort (900mg/day) for the Hypericin.

While I can certainly say there has been an improvement in my frequency of outbreaks, it still isn't what I've hoped for. And they seem to be increasing in frequency this past year (although still much better than before all of this).

I used to get an outbreak every 3 months, now it seems to fluctuate between 2 to 3 per year.

My questions:

1) About supplements:

Oscar has mentioned to take BHT on an empty stomach without any supplements whatsoever, yet has mentioned supplements that may help.

Does this mean to take BHT in the morning and your supplements at night? For the past 3 years I've been taking BHT and supplements together, at night.

I take:

750mg BHT

1000mg L-Lysine (recently increased to 1500mg)

1000mg Vitamin C (just started dividing my dose morning, and night)

900mg of St John's Wort

3000mg of Omega3 Fish Oil (throughout the day -just started this one recently)

1.5 mg of Melatonin (for sleep)

A spoonful of Virgin Coconut Oil

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2) Question about Hypericin.

I've heard that when BHT doesn't work as well on it's own, that taking it with Hypericin can work wonders. I can't find this to purchase ANYWHERE. Other than in St John's Wort at 0.3%, which is why I take three 300mg pills of SJW a day. I've seen improvement over the past two years on St John's Wort, but nothing magical.

I've read the recommended dose for Hypericin is to work your way up to 10mg/ day. I don't think I should do that by taking 3000mg of St John's Wort.

Any idea where to find Hypericin on its own? I'm not sure how safe it is to greatly increase my St John Wort dosage.

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3) Vitamin B12.

Just looking for clarification on this, as I've read conflicting information that this can either work great in combo with BHT, or should be avoided altogether.

I know that what I've been trying for the past few years isn't exactly working for me and I'm determined to find the next step toward beating this, or at least beat it into submission. Any and all help would be immensely appreciated!

Thank you for taking the time to read this!

M: Whenever there is such a poor response from otherwise effective natural remedies, then one needs to back up a few steps and consider the likely possibility of a chronic depleted immune system. There are many items in our toxic modern times that drain immunity. It is very important to go to lengths in air, water, and food purification (clean organic foods w/ no additive etc). Next one must turn to cleaning the inner environment. It is recommended by many natural docs and chiro's to do annual gallbladder, colon, heavy metal, and parasite cleanse as so many diseases are directly linked to these toxic environments, particularly infections. Lots of good info on the cleanses at top page under "remedies" or "ailments" section.

Maritimesnowman, try taking the BHT in the morning on an empty stomach, away from anything else. BUT start with much less, Oscar says 250mg, just in case it's effect is much stronger when taken in the morning on it's own.

BHT can literally have that large of an impact in the morning on its own that I should take less? Wow. Ok, well here's hoping!

Thank you both for the responses so far. I'm hoping I can eventually get answers to all of my above questions! This site is great.

So how can it "cure" Hep B and C but not "cure" herpes?? Just suppress it while it's being taken??

Hey Oscar, how does one get in touch with you regarding BHT and HSV2? I am currently doing Synergy Pharmaceutical's protocol which is Lysine, Tribulus, Rhodiola, Astragulus, and an enhanced amino formula. They claim a 70% cure rate on their website.

I also am taking Biogetica's Hyperisince, which actually cured me already last year and got me to a negative result. My test showed a .89 on the IGG result. I started drinking and living a toxic life and I guess I brought it back on. I am not sure why I went from a negative to a positive. Do you think I can add BHT in the morning before I take these at night time? I have been trying different protocols for about 5 years. My Biogetica protocol took me 8 months to get to a negative. I didn't drink alcohol or eat any sugar, friend foods, and avoided inflammation causing foods. Obviously, I would love to take the fast track and get a negative result again so I can move on with my life and be free.

Do you see those that do the BHT protocol have HSV ever come back? Also, I saw that the Yahoo group was removed. I understand how the politics are around natural drugs. Ever thought about making a Telegram? Thanks so much for all you do! Let me know what you think about me taking BHT in the morning and those others at night.

JR

Hello JR, I'm glad to hear that you are currently asymptomatic and able to temporarily bring down your viral load so that your antibodies can ease up. Funny thing about HSV-2 is that outward symptoms can go away but as it can't be eradicated from the spinal ganglia, we will continue to shed the virus and symptoms may come back and our IgG score will rise; we are never truly free from being shedding carriers of it but can only hope to eliminate active outbreaks. An IgG score of 0.00 will show when it has been truly eradicated.

I also took the Synergy protocol for 9mos and my IgG score stayed in the teens but it did greatly reduce my outbreaks.

Be careful with the Lysine as long term usage can lead to gallstones. Watch the Arginine in your diet of which alcohol is high because Arginine will feed/increase your viral load and thus your IgG antibodies score will climb.

Dear Oscar, I am very new to this forum and having read all the posts I cannot belive that there is a cure for Hepatitis B. Over the years I have been told a number of times by many doctors that I have to live with this virus for the rest of my life. I have been diagnosed with acute Hepatitis B in 2003, so it's been now nearly 10 years or more as I really do not know when I cought the virus. I would like to try the BHT treatment but do you think I have chances of clearing the virus having been infected for so long? There is a lot mentioned about possible side effects but what are these? Is there a specific diet I should follow while taking BHT? Is it recommnded to tcombine it with other supplyments like Chanca Piedra And lastly, how long should the treatment last? I would much appreciate some advise.

I have been following the BHT threads and find them interesting and hopeful. I am trying to determine which is better to fight; Cirrhoris or the Virus. I have HCV (over 30 years now) 1b and I have Cirrhoris (early stage). My Liver Enzymes are AST-100 ALT-150 and they have fluctuated mostly down and then back up within this range for years. My platelet count has remained between 126 and 136 for years. My PT and INR run above range also. I am 60 years old, 220lbs weight, 6'5" Tall, and can be considered in generally good health, EXCEPT for HCV and Cirrhoris.

The VA (Veterans Administration) has tried to get me to go on the Inteferon and now the new treatment for many years. They say I am a good candidate but I feel they say that to everyone. My situation puzzles me because my viral load has never been above 225, 000 and has gone as been as low as 63,000. Currently it is at 175,000. I was told that viral load in my case has nothing to do with the damage to the liver.

The VA (Veterans Administration) wants me to consider starting their treatment with the new 3 drug therapy in August.

So question: I noticed you indicated that Milk Thistle hinders the BHT effect. That was disappointing to me because I was using Milk Thistle to protect the liver along with Alpha Lipoic Acid and some Selium. Now if BHT is to kill the virus and it takes patience and awhile to do so, AND if Milk Thistle is very good for the Inflamation of the Liver, then how do I handle this dilema.

I need to get the inflamation under control in the liver yet I need to kill or significantly control the virus to stop the inflamation! It is like a catch 22, UNLESS there are options I have not thought of.

I have been taking BHT for about a month or two (350mg twice a day - nothing else but a big gulp of water) I did notice that my platelets went up from 129 to 136 but then the darn labs moved the reference ranges up again. So now where I would have been in the low range I am now below the low range.

Other than being tired from time to time, I feel rather healthy, but the thought of Cirrhoris that I have and the inflamation in my liver is what concerns me.

In summary, your opinion (and anyone elses) on which of the two I should focus on most [Killing the HCV virus OR my Liver Inflammation?] It would be great if I could work on both and I suspect someone can provide experienced input.

Lastly, often in the posts, people do not indicate if they had Acute or Chronic HCV. Maybe I overlooked some of the references, but since Acute can come and go over various time limits, it would be helpful to understand the success with Chronic HCV, in my humble opinion.

Thank you for your past input, as I have researched many of your referenced files and links and have found them helpful. I am supposed to go in another 6 months to the VA for my next lab work and I will post what happens. I am hoping that I can get some valuable input before the next scheduled treatment at the VA in August to help in my decision.

You efforts are appreciated!

Dear Truthbetold from Madison, Alabama, I do remember you for sure. It is good hearing from you once again. I often do wonder about the different people I have been in contact with and hope they are well. I am NOT a doctor. As your doctors have told you your viral load count is very much in the low range. I notice some small improvement in that viral load count. All I can tell you is that taking milk thistle and or it`s extracts DOES make the BHT treatment much less effective. Why not give the BHT treatment a try without said milk thistle and see if that works or not. If it works you should see a dramatic drop in that viral load count in a very few months. You are relatively healthy. Stop taking milk thistle and lets see what happens. Also do NOT take vitamin E supplements. Vitamin E supplements have been proven to enhance the hepatitis C viruses` ability to replicate and should be avoided by people with hepatitis C for that reason.

Give that a try for say 3 months and if the hepatitis C is still showing up with little or no improvement then it is time to consider the NEW treatments that are in the pipeline and due to become available this year.

The good news is you are still quite healthy and have those 3 months to try the BHT treatment as recommended. If it does not work those new treatments will still be there for you. You seem to me a very strong and generally healthy person and need not be frightened. One way or another, with or without the BHT treatment you will find a treatment that works for you. I know you are a good man and will get through this one way or another....Oscar

Thanks Oscar, I will do BHT daily and see what happens without Milk Thistle. I will continue to do the ALA and Selium unless someone indicates otherwise.

Inquiry: Is there more information on the impact of milk thistle on bht results from your other referenced yahoo group? I will go there if there is more current and practical results, pros and cons, being discussed by the group.

I am still interested in results from those with Acute versus Chronic HCV, that is if the people seaching this out know this about their own case. Many people may not even know. I will keep searching various sites to see if anything comes up. I have not seen anything yet.

I will keep posting and following what's going on and if I can be of any assistance please let me know. I will do what I can.

Oscar, I forgot to address the liver inflammation issue. Do you or any other readers of the post know of a "good and proven" substitute for Milk thistle that will help with inflammation and liver cell regeneration? Like Boldo, Dandelion, Artichoke, etc. I just want to minimize cirrhocis damage while giving bht a valiant effort. I want to be nice to my sick liver :).

Dear Truthbetold, I try very hard to provide the most up to date and reliable information available regarding BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C. This information is based on the feedback available from people trying this BHT treatment and a Univresity of Naples study regarding vitamins that help with this treatment. The vitamin B12 in daily doses of 1, 000mcg [ micrograms ] and the those that harm [ vitamin E because it was proven to ENHANCE the hepatitis C viruses` ability to replicate ]. Now you NEED some vitamin E. Just do not take vitamin E supplements. You get plenty enough vitamin E in a normal diet and have no need for the supplements.

Now, you have shown some small improvement with the BHT treatment while using milkthisle and or it`s extracts. You have held your own against this potentially dangerous hepatitis C infection and showed some small improvement. I do think using the BHT treatment as recommended has to be at LEAST worth a try. This milkthistle stuff greatly degrades the BHT treatment.

You asked about dandelion greens. As far as I know this has NO effect on the BHT treatment and should be OK to eat.

Now the fact that you showed some small improvement with the BHT treatment in spite of using milkthistle NOT because of it, is significant. You have been using the BHT treatment for about one year now. Most people with a hepatitis C infection get worse as time goes by, NOT in any way better.

Give the BHT treatment a try as recommmended at let us see what happens. I would be surprised if you do NOT show a dramatic improvement within a month or two. For a man your size [ over 200 pounds ] the recommended dosage of BHT is: 350mg of BHT taken twice a day, in the morning and at night with water on an empty stomach. Your freind and fellow veteran, ...Oscar

Dear Truthbetold, You can help by joining the NEW_BHT_CURES_GROUP here:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_New_BHT_Cures_Group/

And your continued postings here at the EARTH CLINIC. Your postings HERE are the most important. Thank you, ...Oscar

What is the best way to use raw plant of chanca piedra for treating H. B because it grows near me?

To Truthbetold, There is a doctor, Burton Berkson, curing liver disease, including cirrhosis, with ALA - alpha lipoic acid. Briefly, he stumbled upon it by accident giving it to a patient with only a few days to live. Completely restored his liver. Subsequently, he went on to administer it to others with cirrhosis and other types of liver failure, and it worked. His article was written in the Well-Being Journal Jan/Feb 2009 Volume 18, No 1. He added milk thistle and selenium as a support, calls the three items, his "cocktail".

Dear Truthbetold, I think the best replacement for milk thistle is oregano oil. It's known to kill viruses and regenerate liver cells. Please do your own research first. Good luck!

Luke, I also have chronic hbv. I am doing the bht therapy currently. a year or two ago I did bht + chanca piedra tea, and my viral load went from 500 million to 14 million. I did blood tests every 4-5 months or so, and sometimes I would only take chanca piedra and other times only bht, my viral load kept decreasing. That was a SIGNIFICANT decrease that happened over a year of on and off supplementation, and showed me that that both of those work.

Unfortunately, due to having such a high viral load, and due to being infected since very very young age (6 months), I seem to be developing cirrhosis, as my platelet count is low (platelet sequestration) and I have some spleen enlargement due to portal hypertension. Because of this, I feel that it is a good idea for me to also take serrapeptase (a proteolytic enzyme).

I am currently taking bht, chanca piedra, serrapeptase for my liver fibrosis, and also, to increase immune system and guard myself from developing liver cancer (very possible due to this god forsaken virus), I am taking AHCC (I trust the brand quality of life). I read some great testimonials about AHCC clearing infections as well (like hep b, and it's also very much anti-cancer).

I am going to do these therapies, and for my low platelet dangerous condition, also going to be taking many green smoothies (for their vit k content). During dental work and menstruation I take vit k2 supplement because I want to avoid heavy bleeding by increasing my platelets even more so.

I will update this post every month or so. I found this website very useful, and I will be posting here about bht, and the treatments that I am using. I feel pretty good about these, as I already feel better after a few days of supplementing myself with the above-mentioned treatment plan.

I really hope this is useful to anyone else who was as desperate as I. I am barely 25 and have goals in life, I am not going to let this virus screw up my life.

Is anyone still taking BHT??

I am amazed---someone else who thinks that BHT is a good antioxidant---it has been shot to pieces due to the overloading of it during the 60's through 80's but it is a good antioxidant---the things naturally similar are rosemary and sage each has the same potent effect of BHT or BHA which are amazing at keeping fats from oxidizing in the system--Today with all the BS on omega 3's you would need to take either bha or bht or rosemary essential oil or sage essential oil with them in order to offset the oxidation of thes omega 3 fats--no one is telling anybody this and in fact adding high doses of vitamin D with these omega 3' will cause arterial blockage of calcium and other deposits--so do not overload the omea 3's and in fact should be a 2:1 6-3 and if you are using omegas then make them walnut and add bht or bha or rosemary essential oils to this--good article
Tony

Great posting Bill, I was especially happy to see your remarks about BHT occuring naturally in phytoplankton and other organisms. That was one of the reasons most often given as to why BHT was supposed to be so bad for you. So, IN FACT, BHT is no more UNNATURAL, than say milk thistle extract or any of the other plant extracts. Yes it can be extracted from certain plants. But, if you wish to use BHT now, synthetic BHT is exactly the same compound as found in the plant extracts. There is NO difference. A known compound is a known compound and it makes NO difference whether it is produced by a plant or synthetically....Oscar

Hi, I have genotype 1a HCV with AST at 71 and ALT at 111 on the date of december 1st 2011.

I began a 230 mg 3x/day BHT treatment on 18th of january. I will go for a blood test on 15th of february and I will post the result on the 23rd or around. Ciao for now. Mario

Dear Mario from Montreal Canada, I so very much appreciate your feedback and look forward to your future test results. These blood test results are so very important. It is by way of such feedback that the most effective means of administering BHT can be established, including what is an effective and safe dosage for most people.

Your attention to detail is important and appreciated. You have established a baseline as to liver function tests at: AST= 71 and ALT=111 as of 12-1-2011. Though these readings are somewhat elevated they are in the mildly elevated range as discussed here: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/liver_blood_tests/page3_em.htm

Now: You began a 230mg of BHT taken 3 times per day. You did not mention any adverse side effects. This is of course very good. And you began this treatment on 1-18-2012. Most, though by no means all people tolerate such a dosage well with no side effects. Let me just say that if you do start experiencing adverse effects I do suggest lowering that dosage. I also do think it is a good idea to include taking 1 or 2 tablespoons of olive oil in your diet taken seperately from the BHT, NOT at the same time. This is to insure an adequate source of high quality lipids to protect against adverse side effects associated with the use of BHT. Wait at least one hour before or after taking the BHT. Hey, I expect you are an Italian and the health benefits of olive oil are well known, especially amongst the Italians. You also noted that you are infected with HCV type 1a. Your attention to detail is very important and much appreciated. Ciao, ...Oscar

Hi Oscar and thank you for all the kind support you bring to hepatitis sufferers on this site and others. I did read your posts on multiple sites and I found the rational of your testimonies to be accurate and I decided to give a try to BHT.

In the days following absorption of bht, I noticed a slight amelioration in the coloration of urine and no noticable side effects. I still need a lot of rest though. An herpes irruption who was coincidently emerging at that time disappeared.

I have to say that I was already taking others antioxidants or helpers as l-methionine, serrapeptase, nattokinase, milk rhistle, astragalus, l-proline, l-lysine, c vit. And suma wich helped to improve my condition since august whe my urine was darker and my energy at an all time low. I just added amor seco few days ago. But none of these ingredients or the sumn of it is susceptible to break the virus to the point that I would test negative in the future. So we will see.

Thanks for the link about blood test.

Ciao.

Mario

Dear Mario, Good hearing from you. I want you to know that: Your initial response to the BHT treatments indicate the treatment is working. That darkened urine is one of the well known symptoms of liver failure. So, if your urine is returning to normal with the use of BHT, that is a very good indication that the treatment is working. Also, that disappearance of a herpes eruption is NOT a coincidence. BHT is a well known treatment for all herpes viruses. And, I am very glad to know you have no side effects. That is always my first concern with people trying this treatment: If they have side effects or not. Most people do NOT, but some do.

It does take some time as I have explained many times now for anyone to get well with this treatment. A few weeks to a few months depending on how infected and damaged a person`s liver is to begin with for one thing. Again: BHT can NOT uninfect an infected liver cell. What it does do is to prevent any unifected liver cells from becoming infected by destroying the viral particles in the blood and other intercellular fluids. And like I have said: EVERY liver cell that makes up a person`s liver is a new cell about every year or so.

So: if no new cells become infected a true cure eventually does occur. This does take years of daily dosing with BHT and I am sure it varies from person to person. This is because the BHT is NOT 100% effective in destroying all the viral particles. Some of these viral particles will remain intact and go on to infect other liver cells. But as time goes by with daily dosing with BHT: Less and less of the liver cells are infected and more and more of them are uninfected. But you can live a perfectly normal and healthy life as this process goes on once enough of your liver is healthy and functioning adequately. So, there is no big hurry. I say that because you can definately take too much BHT in hopes of getting truly cured more quickly. People need to find a dose that is both safe and effective and this dose does vary from person to person.

So: You are off to or with a good start: You found a dose that is effective and is not causing adverse effects. Keep the forum and me updated with your progress. Ciao, ...Oscar

Hello Oscar and all. I'm now 25 days into 350mg BHT twice a day on an empty stomach, usually about 4:30 am and 4:30 pm. By last Wednesday I was convinced that BHT was a miracle drug. My stools had returned almost completely to normal and my urine had been normal for 10 days straight or so. My energy and focus had also returned to normal after months of problems.

Unfortunately though, I went through a down turn as my symptoms returned with my urine darker and my bowels light colored and loose. What conspicuously did not happen was a loss of energy and focus. I still felt great. After about three days of worsening symptoms things slowly started getting better. As of today I am not back to where I was last Wed. But I think things are going in the right direction.

Is this common? Are there ups and downs symptom wise? I had been reading about thin people (me) needing to take a tablespoonful of olive oil and did just that last Wed. Night and wonder if it may have had something to do with what happened or not. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the help. Good luck everybody.

Dear Dave from Wayne NJ, Thank you so very much for your instructive feedback. Look, this BHT really does work as you are finding out for yourself. Now the reason I advised thin people to include 1 to 2 tablespoons of olive oil in their diets was because many of these thin people have reported negative side effects: most often some nervous condition and BHT does interact with lipids, and all neurons are sheathed with lipids.

But, from your statement: You were NOT experiencing any such side effects and was responding very well to the BHT treatments prior to adding the olive oil to your diet. So for you: Go back to taking the BHT without the olive oil in your diet until and unless you start experiencing any nervous system disorders. And NEVER mix or take the BHT at the same time as olive oil or any other oil. Stick with what works best. It seems to me you do NOT need or desire the addition of olive oil to your diet, at least for now. If you do start experiencing nervous disorders you might want to try one tablespoon of olive oil every other day and see how that works for you.

Now when I was really sick with hepatitis C I did not take any olive oil or any other oil. I was lean but not thin. I weighed about 175 pounds and am about 6 feet tall. The digestion of all fats and oils do require bile salts and other things produced in the liver. This may account for this set back in this your BHT therapy. I do NOT have all the answers for each and every person regarding the use of BHT to treat hepatitis C. Hopefully, with the feedback that you and others are providing we can answer these questions and come up with some meaningful guide lines.

I wish I had reliable answers for each and every person trying this BHT therapy, but I do not at this time. For now and for you I will say go back to what was working very well for you and stop taking the olive oil at least for now and let us see how that works for you. You are getting well and the BHT therapy is working. We just need to establish and stick with what works best for you. You may very well wish to include some olive oil in your diet as your liver function improves and you may already be there. I do NOT know.

Do not get overly concerned about some minor set back. You tolerate the BHT very well and it is working for you. And please: keep me and this forum updated as to your progress along with any setbacks or problems you may experience. This is the ONLY way there is to answer these questions, with feedback.

So, for now: If no adverse side effects are experienced with the use of BHT I advise against the addition of any sort oil to a person`s diet in the first 2 months of treatment because all fats and oils do put an additional demand on the liver. I do NOT mean a person should avoid all fats and oils. A healthy source of lipids is essential to a healthy diet. Simply do NOT add that extra tablespoon of olive oil if and only if no previous nervous condition developes with the use of BHT. I do NOT have all the answers. You have to find out what works best for you....Oscar

Dear Oscar and everyone,

Today marks 34 days of twice a day 350mg BHT for me. Last fall I was very sick. My doctor had blood work done to see just how bad things were in mid October. My viral load, which has always been high, was 23,000,000!! The highest it had been before was 12,000,000 or so. My ALT and AST were always just above normal but last October were AST 203, ALT 155.

Unfortunately it took until late December to discover this web site (thanks to my wife) and Oscar's posts on BHT. I started taking the BHT January 6th, 2012. That is not long ago. I had blood work done February 6th and got the results today. I know that Hep C viral loads fluctuate and my new numbers my reflect some fluctuation but, my new viral load as of Monday this week is 5,000,000. Seems to be quite a drop to be only a fluctuation. My Doctor is apprehensive but supportive. AST and ALT were not as impressive at 132 and 128 but encouraging enough.

I am convinced this is working. I seem to get the best results physically when I do not add other supplements to my daily routine. I have been on Prevacid for three years and find that I don't need it much any more. I have taken one pill every 6 or so days for the last three weeks. Coincidence? I don't know.

There are days when my urine is a little dark and my stools are not entirely normal day to day but the difference from last fall to now, after one month of BHT, is thrilling. We bought 9 bottles with a 50 day supply in each and are in it for the long haul. I encourage anyone who knows someone with hepC to expose them to this site and Oscar's work. I personally cannot thank him enough.

God bless, Dave

Dear Dave from Wayne, NJ, Thank you for this important update. It is only with such feedback as yours that the methodology of BHT as a teatment for hepatitis C can be worked out. So, again I thank you.

Now those are impressive numbers, the sort of response that indicates the BHT treatment is working and is similar to what some of the others I discussed in the past have experienced including myself. Your viral load is less than 1/4 th of what it was prior to the BHT treatments and there is some small improvement in liver function in about one month of the BHT treatments. Those are very impressive results from a person who had a very a very infected liver with idications that the infection was getting far worse rapidly. You have turned all that around and are now showing dramatic improvement with the BHT treatment in only one month.

As I have said many times now it takes longer for some than others to get to that NO VIRUS DETECTED status. In my opinion your initial response is a very good one considering everything. Just keep doing what you are. You are winning this battle. Your liver is healing itself with the use of BHT. This BHT stuff realy does work.

Dave, it is very important that you keep this forum upated regarding your progress with the use of BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C. There is NO other big forum taking a serious interest in this. But there is a Yahoo discussion group about all this recently started by Victoria, a member of this forum and I am a member of that group and one of the moderators of that forum. I do encourage you to join that discussion group. Victoria and me are trying to do what we can to promote this life saving information along with this forum`s efforts. Your participation in that forum would be helpful. Here is a link to that Yahoo discussion group if you choose to join it: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/

Now, it is not our intention to in any way compete with THE CONTACT EARTH CLINIC, but rather provide a discussion group for those using the BHT treatment to compare notes and such. The CONTACT EARTH CLINIC is the big forum and by all means report your progress here in THIS forum first and foremost. But your participation in this discussion group would be appreciated....Oscar

I was diagnosed with Hep C and HPV. The HPV turned into cancer and I had it surgically remove. My girl found info on BHT used as an antiviral and we started taking it together as she now has the HPV virus with the warts as well. We both started a regimen of BHT, started 1/8/12 taking 350 mg daily and slowly increasing the dosage to 700 mg twice daily. It has been a little over 1 month now and her urine has turned dark so we are cutting back to only 350 mg twice daily.

We have also been taking Milk Thistle to protect the liver as well as L-lysine, astragalus, alpha lipoic acid , grape seed extract, 1000mg of Vit E, 3000 mg of Vit C, 1000mg. Vit D-3, whey protein mix with amino acids added, olive leaf, turmeric or curcumin and recently we added di-indolymethane(DIM) which has shown to totally cure Stage 3 cervical cancer which my girl is concerned about. We eat extremely healthy (lots of colorful veggies and minimal amounts of lean meats).

I tried to discuss this regimen with my Dr. who wants to start me on interferon treatment for the Hep C in June after my follow up with the cancer surgeon. I am not sure that I am interested in the interferon as I have read about the possible side effects, however apparently it can cure the body of the Hep C with no antibodies showing in final testing. My Dr. said we might as well drink Clorox if we were going to take BHT. How can I find a Dr. who will support our choice to use BHT and provide the necessary blood work to see if it is working. My girl said that it appears that one of the warts ( on the outside ) seems to be gone, but still has several just inside the vagina. We hope that we are providing our bodies with an appropriate regimen however would appreciate any input and references for how to locate a Dr. who would support our choices.

Dear Denis from State College Penn. , My immediate response is: Easy does it here. From the feedback available one 350mg capsule of BHT taken twice a day is the MOST or maximum dose for average size adults. Taking more is NOT better. Also, NEVER take BHT with, at the same time as, ANY other supplement. BHT needs to be taken seperately and on an empty stomach with water only.

I understand you two are freaked out. You have to use self control here. Just calm down, you CAN do that. Now, this mixing of everything you have read of, about together is NOT a good way to go.

Also, you did mention a doctor who wants to prescribe one of the interferon treatments. There are some new drugs that have been added to the interferon plus ribaviron treatment with significant improvement indicated.

Have you tried any of the interferon plus treatments at this time ? If so what were the results ?

I am wary of these treatments but they do work for many people.

For right now: lower the dosage of BHT to no more than 350mg of BHT taken twice a day and see if any improvement is shown in the liver function tests and the viral load counts.

Regarding the other supplements: Do NOT mega dose on any of them.

BHT seems to work very well all by itself if taken in the dosages I have discussed. I am trying to be helpful. If you choose to continue the BHT treatments: Lower the dosge to no more than 350mg of BHT taken twice a day and do not mega dose on any other supplement for at least 3 weeks and see if there is some improvement or not. It seems to me you are mega dosing on those vitamins you stated.

From my experience and the growing feedback available: The BHT works very well by itself. Also that megadosing with vitamins and other supplements does NOT help at all while using the BHT treatment. Please do read what Dave from New Jersy has to say and fatcha brute and january and Gina and Victori and toad and Teru and me. All of us had dramatic improvement with NO megadosing with anything. Teru and fatcha brute for HPV [ genital warts ] ...Oscar

Hi! From my understanding, it will depend on what brand of BHT one is taking. Most brands of BHT states to take it with your meal that has the most fat (such as lunch or dinner), is this incorrect? Does it really work better with only water?

Dear Bht for Hsv from Greenville S. C. , Well, in my opinion based on my experience and the experience of those reporting into this forum: Ii is best to take the BHT with water and on an empty stomach. Also it has been brought to my attention that HPV [ human papillomavirus ] is not a lipid coated virus. And yet the two people I know of who tried the BHT for HPV did report a very dramitic improvement in 4 weeks of treatment. So the BHT does seem to work for HPV also.

Now there is an explanation for that. ALL proteins are very dependent upon hydrogen bonds to hold their stuctures together. A simplified but accurate way of looking at what proteins are is: Branched and unbranched strings of amino acids. Now these strings of amino acids stucture is highly dependent on said hydrogen bonds. When these proteins are placed in a nonpolar liquid such as carbon tetra-chloride these protiens become denatured. They lose their structure or shape. The covalent bonds are NOT broken and yet these proteins collapse because these hydrogen bonds disappear in a non polar liquid. Now what BHT and its metabolies do is to very much disrupt these hydrogen bonds and thereby denature at least some proteins in certain protein coated viruses enough to destroy at least some proteine coated viruses including at least some HPV viruses.

Also, BHT is BHT. There is no specific brand. It, BHT is the accepted name of a specific compound [ butylated hydroxytoluene ]. It is a historic or trivial name, but that is what it is called....Oscar

Hi Oscar, As I expected, I received my blood test result today and my AST passed from 71 to 81 and mt ALT from 111 to 115. But, generally I feel better with up and down less dramatic than before. If I compare with the state I was in august and september there is a huge improvement, I would say.

The first kick followed Ted's treatment suggestion with Lysine and completed by supplementation with other antioxydants, that I began in late september. Urine was still a bit dark by end of october but less and chronic fatigue was a bit less heavy.

Now, since I began BHT on 18th of january, my alertness improved, my urine is generally clear with only few brownish reminders once a while. I now continue the BHT treatment as 350 mg X 2 times a day on empty stomach and will have another blood test to report the 22nd of march. But this time my doctor, who is by no mean familiar with HCV is asking RT-PCR qualitative and quantitative tests. I imagine These are the test that tell if the virus can be count by hundreds or by millions?

Anyway, the S/CO ratio passed from 161. 89 in october to 131. 03 in february. I don't know if this means little or big improvement, but I keep on.

Cheers.

Mario

Dear Mario, Well, let us see here: You have been on the BHT treatment for a little over than one month now. Those ALT and AST results show NO improvement. When were the first tests done? Also those numbers are elevated but still in the mildly elevated ranges. You do state you are feeling better and your urine is improved. The ALT and AST numbers change is so small that no conclusion good or bad can be drawn, or assumed from them. Basically NO CHANGE in those numbers. That is likely to be consistent with what your doctor told you.

I don`t know what to tell you Mario. You are feeling better and your urine is showing improvement. Perhaps you are at the tipping point where some real improvement can or will be shown in your next tests. I sure do hope so....Oscar

Follow up posting to Mario: That S/CO ratio test is NOT a viral load count test. It is is a test that shows the ratio of anti-bodies to viral particles and it is not clear to me that it is relevant to hepatitis C. It seems to be an experimental test that has NOT shown itself to be a reliable one at this time. And any change in the numbers was so small as to be irrelavant.

Also, I do not know exactly when the first ALT and AST tests were done. And THOSE numbers are in the mildly elevated zone. I do think we have now established a baseline and that the next tests will be a lot more relevant. You feel better and your urine is now normal. Let us see what the next tests show. This treatment does take longer for some than others....Oscar

My previous test was from december, before I began BHT. The second one 28 days after beginning treatment. Ciao for now. Mario

This is for Oscar but anyone can share their feedback. Is BHT effective with Hepatitis B as it was with C? I already bought a bottle of 250mg 500 capsules from Amazon.com. How much dosage/capsule(s) should I take per day. How long before I can get the undetectable results? Also, I brew my own Olive Leaf Extract water which also is effective against the virus, can I take BHT and push it down with OLE instead of regular water or does it really have to be water? Also, can I drink OLE right after BHT or do I have to wait an hour? Thanks for the feedback.

Dear Rave from LA, For me, Oscar: The BHT did work for Hepatitis B as it also did for hepatitis C. And, from the feedback available: A gulp of water is what works best to wash the BHT down with. The dosages used vary for different people. At this time: 350mg taken twice a day is the MAXIMUM dosage recommended. Many if not most people are achieving very good results with less than 350mg taken twice a day. That is with water on an empty stomach.

I now test negative for HBV and HCV as of 2006 with the antibodies test. It is as if I was never exposed to both of those viral diseases. Up until at least 1998 I tested positive for both. I do recommend joining the BHT CURES GROUP here to stay up to date on all of the different people`s reports: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/

Also, for most people: A hepatitis B infection is quite different than a HCV infection. The usual pattern for HBV is that you get sick within a week or so and either survive it or you do not. Most people do survive. With hepatitis C you get soewhat sick soon, but recover. And then many years later as the virus eats away at your liver you get chronically and progressively sicker. Many people never do get chronically ill with HCV and many do. They are two very different diseases....Oscar

Hi Oscar, thank you so much for your quick response. I found out I have Hep B in February of this year when I was in the US Navy, I was discharged because of it. I wanted to go back in but I'd have to clear Hep B off first. I have never experienced any symptoms at all, actually, had I not joined the Navy, I wouldn't have found out about it. So you say 350mg x2/day is the maximum dosage? The dosage I got from Amazon is 250mg in capsule form, I read one of your posts on a different forum, you said you took one 200mg per day. I've been on BHT 250mg since Thursday last week. I only take one capsule every morning (an hour or more before eating anything) as that has worked for you. Do you think I should double it - one in the morning and one later in the day? You also stated that dosing depends on weight as well, I am 5'9, 150lbs. Also, I just brewed fresh batch of Olive Leaf Extract water (we have our own tree in the backyard) I should probably drink it an hour after BHT. What do you think?

Again, thank you for your quick response, I know this forum is for HC, but I posted in the HB forum and didn't get a single response, I posted there under the name of RJ, I also included there my test results.

Hi Oscar, To your knowledge can or does BHT effect the lipid coating of nerves (the myelin sheath) as I have both neuropathy and hep-c? In other words, it dissolves the lipid coating of the virus... Does it effect the nerve sheath as well?

I am impressed about your postings of hep-c results... Congratulations to you for putting it up...

Dear Rave from LA, I wish to clear up a mistake I made. Some people do develope chronic hepatitis B and it can lead to the same problems hepatitis C does. Now most people handle the hepatitis B much better than the HCV infection. Wikipedia says fully one third of all people have had hepatitis B at some point in thier lives.

The virons or viral particles are similar in structure to the HCV virons. Both have a coating made up of a bilayer of lipids with certain protein structures mixed in amongst that bilayer of lipids.

All I can say with certainty is that BHT cured me of both infections. I now test negative for both HCV and HBV using the antibodies test. That took at least two years of daily dosing with BHT for me. Now Mike [ twodragunns ] achieved a negative using the antibodies test in about 6 months for hepatitis C. That amazed even me. You can read what Mike has to say here:

[YEA] 05/27/2012: Twodragunns from London, Ontario, Canada replies: "I've been doing 2 x 250 mg daily of BHT with a splash of water on an empty stomach since Feb 1, 2012 and after 1 month all my symptoms of chronic Hep C had completely disappeared. I've just ordered 3 x 350 mg bottles from Vitamin Research Products and plan to up my dosage to 2 x 350 a day as soon as I recieve my BHT order.

I can't believe how good I feel these days and I have to thank Oscar for sharing this invaluable information with everybody that will listen and I'm sure BHT is the answer for many. I failed tx with Ribiviron daily and Peginterferon 1 injection per week back in 2008 and was a non responder after 4 months. I have genotype 1a which is very resistant to conventional therapies and had all the classic symtoms, like brain fog, joint aches and low energy, but after 4 weeks of BHT, "I feel like kid again".

I just had a blood test (5 vials taken) and they're measuring my viral load as well as all the other measures they do. I will post the results in late June after I see my MD and get the results. To all the na sayers and crap talkers that give Oscar a hard time about the validity of this treatment, "get a life and stop with the B. S. Posts that are accusing Oscar of spreading false information about this very effective treatment". I can tell it's working Oscar because all my symptoms disappeared and it's been 4 months now and I feel great!! I'm out golfing everyday (which I thought I'd never get to do again) and I'm playing very well!

Thanks again to Oscar from the bottom of my big old heart for discovering and sharing with us all this treatment that seems to be helping very many folks that have either failed conventional tx or not wanted to do this because of the catastrophic side effects. I'm going to keep posting here about my recovery from this chronic disorder and provide my medical test results as well.

kindest regards, Mike from London, Ontario, Canada"

And follow up here from Mike:

[YEA] 06/26/2012: "Got the best news I could ever ask for today, my bloodwork results are in and I no longer have any Hep C antibodies in my blood and my liver function levels are all normal. Now this is after failing conventional therapies back in 2008 and almost losing all hope of ever clearing this dreaded virus. I feel fantastic and I have to admit that BHT absolutely cures Hep C type 1a geno types when all else fails and it does it for pennies.

Anybody that comes across this post, you owe it to yourself to try this wonderful substance that has given me and so many others back our lives after thinking all was lost!! BHT works!! Thank you once again Oscar for saving me and many others by sharing BHT therapy with the masses. Cheers! "

And Mike again here with the short list of vitamins he uses:

07/30/2012: Twodragunns from London, Ontario, Canada replies: "I only take vitamin B-12 and a multi vitamin with my BHT..... I also do 20 mg of Rabeprazole for acid reflux and I was on Hydromorph Contin, but have stopped it since June 1, 2012.

I'm feeling very well Oscar and last blood work of May 16, 2012 shows me as undetectable and I had the dreaded genotype 1a!!"

Mike achieved these results using one 250mg capsule of BHT twice a day=700mg of BHT per day. Please do read what Mike has to say. He has achieved the very best results of anyone I am aware of. Mike`s statements are posted here at the EARTH CLINIC. My advice is to do what Mike did. Seems at least worth a try. And I always tell people trying the BHT treatment to lower the dosage used if adverse effects are experienced....Oscar

Dear Denise, This issue about the possible adverse effect of BHT on nerve sheathing has come up previously. I do NOT know with any certainty if this is a serious issue or not. There are a number of people using the BHT treatment who have neuropathy to some degree. Now they had the neurapathy before ever taking BHT. My advise is to start with low dosages of BHT and see how that effects you. You can split these capsules and pour out say one half the contents and take only half a capsule per day and see if any adverse effects develope. People who wish to try this treatment have to find a dose they are comfortable with. Most people have no adverse effects with the lower dosages. 250mg per day or less. Also the B vitamins seem to help those with neuropathy. Vitamin B-12 especially so. I do NOT have all the answers. Most people respond very well to this treatment if they are careful about dosing. If adverse effects develope LOWER the dosage used....Oscar

To Oscar: Again, thank you for your impeccable timing of response. And thank you so much for the feedback, tomorrow would be one week since I started BHT, I will up the dosage tomorrow to 2 - 250mg capsules/day. Again, I can't thank you enough for the insight, I will apply all of these tips and see the outcome, I'll update you too with the test results as soon as I get them. I can't wait to be back in the US Navy!

Oscar, Thx much for the feedback...

Dear Glenda from Israel, Try to find out if you can buy some good quality BHT through the mail. I understand that in Israel you HAVE to buy BHT in bulk. But that is NO reason for not finding a company that sells good quality BHT. I don't live in Israel so I do NOT know what companies sell BHT to people in Israel. But it seems foolish to me to settle for less than good quality BHT. There are a very many companies selling BHT through the mail. Find one that sells good quality BHT in bulk through the mail....Oscar

Thanks for replying, Oscar. I know it would be better to buy something that is food grade or food additive grade, but it will take me a long time to get a hold of that, and in the meantime the virus is doing damage that may not be reversable. The BHT I mentioned is available immediately.

I asked them for a purity report, and they will get back to me. I need know how pure it needs to be for transdermal use. I'd appreciate it if anyone can answer this question (not just a guess). I don't want to harm myself.

Thanks in advance!

Dear Glenda from Tel Aviv, You are asking for guarantees NO one here can possibly give you. NO one here knows with any certainty just what this less than food grade BHT is. What potentionaly harmful impurities exist in this BHT.

STOP wasting time struggling with that issue. Pay the additional fees to get a prompt delivery from a company selling food grade BHT. If YOU get serious about it you can probably get delivery in three days or LESS.

Also: What disease or condition are you hoping to treat with BHT ? By the way: There are NO guarantees here or anywhere else. Even proven and prescribable treatments such as antibiotics for bacterial infections do NOT always work for everyone. Just calm down, do what you can to find a reliable seller of food grade BHT and pay for that prompt delivery. This condition, whatever it is, did not develop overnight or did it ? ...Oscar