Natural Remedies for Chronic Viruses

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Many viruses are self-limiting because the body eliminates the virus naturally. Chronic or lingering viruses either don't get better or keep reoccurring. Some can last a lifetime, causing the person to become progressively sicker, including Hepatitis B and C and HIV.

Chronic fatigue syndrome has been linked to viruses, among other possible causes. Other lingering viruses resemble colds or the flu. In all cases, the immune system is the body's best way of eradicating a virus and preventing new infection.

Natural treatments for chronic or lingering viruses are aimed at strengthening the immune response and treating symptoms.

Natural Remedies for a Virus

Earth Clinic readers have made many suggestions over the years, which you can read in depth below.

Here's a summary of some of the suggested remedies that might help a lingering virus:

  • Organic Apple Cider Vinegar tonic: 2 tsp. in a glass of water, honey optional.
  • Colloidal Silver, one ounce orally or 1 tsp. sniffed into both sinus cavities.
  • Coconut oil.
  • 35% Food grade Hydrogen Peroxide: 1 drop in large glass distilled water, 3x a day, between meals, slowly increasing to 10 drops.
  • Hydrogen Peroxide inhalation.
  • Eucalyptus oil or hydrogen peroxide: a few drops in a small humidifier or vaporizer.
  • Liposomal Vitamin C, high dose for Human T-Lymphotropic Virus (Htlv).
  • One whole lemon squeezed in 8 oz. water.
  • Fresh lemon juice: 1 tsp. every half hour for 2 hours - 4 doses.
  • Pau D'Arco tea, 3 cups a day.
  • Other possibilities: Calcium AEP, DMSO, echinacea, germanium 132, lauric acid, lavender oil, lomatium, Lysine, magnesium chloride, N Acetyl Cystine, sodium lauryl sulfate, squalamine, tea tree oil, zinc.

Continue reading below for more tips from Earth Clinic readers and let us know what's worked for you!

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Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by Keith (Bardstown, Ky) on 02/24/2012
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Got a scratchy throat about a week ago. Within three days started having yellow/brown congestion. Started Amoxicillin 500mg, Acetaminophen, expectorant /decongestant, and Antihistamine which helped some. After four days off work still did not work for sratchy throat, headache, congestion, coughing, and sneezing. On the fourth night swished and drunk 1/2 tsp Apple Cider Vinegar 3 times before going to bed. Seem to work for scratchy throat and congestion. Got up this morning without congestion and most or not any scratchy throat. Going to keep using ACV 2 or 3 times a day until this is gone.

Posted by Janice (Pensacola, FL, USA) on 02/25/2008
5 out of 5 stars

I discovered the wonders of ACV a few months ago. My husband caught a viral infection and was so sick he lost 2 days work, after two weeks he was still sick and I got a scratchy throat by the 3rd day I could barely talk or eat it hurt so bad. My Mom suggested I try ACV and honey mixed together and take 1 TBL 3 times a day. I was desperate so I tried it. 1 spoon in the morning and wow did it burn my throat I had to drink some water to stop the burn, I had 3 spoons of the ACV and honey mixture and that evening my sore throat was gone!!! My husband refused to try it and a few days later he called me from work and said he was going to the ER because he felt so sick. He was sent home with a prescription. I told him just try the ACV and honey, you have been sick all this time but I was sick only 3 days, just try it! He did and it worked, he never filled the prescription. I plan on buying some unprocessed ACV to treat other health problems I have. ACV is a wonder!

Posted by Stella (Chelmsford, Essex, England UK) on 10/06/2007
5 out of 5 stars

I had explosive diarrhoea for a period of 4 weeks travelling in China from Beijing to Xian. No chemicals did anything but treat the symptoms. Upon returning home and taking an anti-biotic the diarrhoe went from explosive to less explosive. Test came back a "virus". I was getting really down by this and starting trawling the intenet. I came upon this site and through I'd try the cider vinegar - what did I have to lose.

After my first dose, I felt a difference right away. My stomach felt "different". I continued with the cider vinegar and 3 months later, I am completely cured. It didn't happen overnight for me as I had 4 weeks in China to recover from. But I am so grateful for finding this site. I'm also thankful for all the comments that persuaded me to give it a try. Thanks to all those who posted comments as you certainly gave me the confidence to give it a go - your comments cured me!

Posted by Kevin (Aveley Essex, England) on 11/10/2006
5 out of 5 stars

Wow, stumbled onto this website last night in desperation,I have felt sick every day for the last four months and have been bringing up acid, I have been taking omeprazole with limited effect, and I now realise I have been prescribed 100% the wrong treatment.

Bought Apple cider vinegar tablets this morning and took two, within 15 minites the feeling of sickness went, and have gone all day feeling better than I have for months, this is not in my mind as I am not easily influenced or easily led, I really do feel better and cannot believe how you can get results so quickly, it really does seem that we all have a lot to learn from our past and maybe we should not dismiss new age hippies so quickly.

Thanks to everyone on this site, I will promote this as much as I can.


Posted by Marilyn (Rowayton, Ct) on 03/07/2018
5 out of 5 stars

I used aspirin to cure symptoms of a virus I was exposed to over the weekend (around a lot of sick adults).

Around 2 in the afternoon yesterday, I suddenly started to feel a dull ache all over, with all muscles feeling increasingly stiff minute by minute. My brain started to feel very foggy. I immediately took 4 low dose aspirin with a glass of water. 2 hours later, symptoms gone. This morning, I feel totally fine. Aspirin works for me every time I catch a virus early on. Thought I would share.

Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 08/11/2015

Dear Art in California,

You recently shared a recipe to Oscar for a topical treatment for pain. That was quite fascinating! In your post, you also mentioned that aspirin had some anti-viral properties. I believe Ted has said the same thing.

I have tried to look this up and am not finding much information about it. I am not doubting it, because it seems to me that when I would take Alka Seltzer back in college, that it seemed to do more than just temporarily relieve symptoms. So I am wondering if you know any more about the anti-viral properties of aspirin or if this is something you have learned through experience?

I am always on the lookout for effective and inexpensive remedies!

If anyone else has thoughts or experience on this topic, I would love to hear.

Thanks so much!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Art
768 posts


It is partially based on my experience and partially what I have read about aspirin. The literature on this aspect of aspirin is minimal as I'm sure you have found. I think a few other nsaids like ibuprofen and indomethacin may have antiviral activity also. Here are a few links that suggest as much.

I think Ted suggests dissolving the aspirin in water and then drinking it to help avoid stomach issues and I have had fairly good effects that way. I mentioned the topical pain reliever formulation to a friend who had shingles and told her that it may help with pain as well as the virus itself. She tried it as a spray and it started to alleviate her symptoms within an hour and she told me she felt normal again after three days of use.

In another person with shingles, who I had mentioned the topical pain reliever to, they decided to mix aspirin with gold listerine because that what they had in their medicine cabinet and said that it helped relieve their symptoms and shorten the duration of the outbreak.

Here is a recent study suggesting that ibuprofen may have potent antiviral activity toward the Ebola Virus:

...... indomethacin:

It seems clear that there is plenty to still be learned about nsaids and their full potential.

With some nsaids , when they are combined with a No donor and or hydrogen sulfide, their potency and effects increase very significantly as described here:


Replied by Mama To Many

Dear Art,

Wow, thank you for taking the time to put all of those links together and also for sharing the stories. It is all helpful and I have some studying to do! :)

Thanks again!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Art
768 posts


You're welcome!

Here is a quote from Ted which is pretty much to the point regarding aspirin:

It should also be noted that acetyl salicylic acid or a more common name, aspirin, tends to destroy the fungus and the protein of the viruses. Therefore the aspirin also help kill them.While a student of microbiology, I observed that adding micromolar concentrations of aspirin to prevented the growth of fungus, virus, and bacteria in culture dishes because the salicylic acid tends to dissolve the protein protecting these organism. What is so surprising is that most people don't know this fact. Even simple mineral salts in micromolar concentrations in general does a great job killing it also with no toxicity to the healthy cells.


Colloidal Silver, Castor Oil

Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 03/11/2016
5 out of 5 stars

Sunday evening my joints were achy and I thought, "Wow, I am getting old." I had a tickle of a cough and thought nothing of it. Monday morning I woke up very sick. Fever, headache and sore throat. I was in bed most of the day. I had my husband or kids bring me an alkalizing lime drink and aspirin during the day but was just feeling too badly to even think of doing anything else for it.

Tuesday the fever was gone but the headache and sore throat continued. I was able to at least start my "go to's" for sickness. I gargled cayenne pepper and salt water several times a day, used the neti pot with hydrogen peroxide, sea salt and warm water, tons of vitamin C, peroxide in the ears, nebulizing colloidal silver...No holds barred - I didn't have time to be sick.

This virus has been around the community for weeks. Most of my kids had it a month ago but I was somehow spared at that time.

Wednesday I still didn't feel as well as I thought I ought to feel and I was a bit indignant. I have never needed to repeat the cayenne for a sore throat that many times...then a neighbor mentioned that she had found colloidal silver to help the throat a lot with the sore throat with this sickness. So, I switched tactics.

Every few hours I put a few Tablespoons of colloidal silver (30ppm, homemade) in a mug and gargled it and swallowed it. That DID make my throat feel better quickly and also helped the swollen lymph nodes in my neck.

At bedtime, I had to do something for my terrible headache and the pressure in my head. I decided to try castor oil. I poured castor oil on a clean white cloth and covered my eyes and forehead. I covered that with plastic and attached it to my head with a bandana. I put a towel on my pillow and went to bed. At that time I was congested and breathing through my mouth (which was making my mouth so dry...)

Four hours later I woke up and realized I was breathing through my mouth! I took the castor oil pack off of my head and went back to sleep.

I woke up a few hours later feeling shockingly improved. The relief in my head was amazing. Ear pressure was gone. Eye pain/pressure was much less. Sinus congestion and pressure was much less.

I continued the colloidal sliver gargling and guzzling through the day and was even well enough to run errands all day with little kids in tow. And at bedtime I was sweeping the floor because I wasn't even exhausted yet!

One interesting thing to note is that I knew a bad cough was coming along with this virus, so I started the colloidal silver in the nebulizer in the beginning. And the cough never did get bad and never woke me at night. I should have gotten the hint that colloidal silver was the key to killing this virus!

I have loved colloidal silver and castor oil for a long time, and my respect for each has increased a lot this week!

~Mama to Many~

Colloidal Silver, Supplements

Posted by Mare (Clemmons, Nc) on 12/09/2013
3 out of 5 stars

Thank you so much for the recent newsletter and the testimonial by Dave Thomas. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. It's strange that you sent it to me when you did because I've been at my wits end lately, fighting what I perceived to be a virus. Actually, my husband passed it along to me when he came down with it a few days after Halloween. It started with a nasty head cold with lots of congestion and I was shocked when I came down with it too because I haven't had a head cold in years, but I suppose being at such close quarters with hubby, it was logical that I'd get it as well. Anyway, no sooner was my husband's cold in full swing, I too found my sinuses congested to the max, and about the same time, we both developed a hacking cough which also involved a lot of congestion. This bothered me because I have NEVER been without CS in the house since I take it for practically everything, but for some strange reason, it didn't seem to be working very well this time. I had us both on a two tablespoon dose three times a day along with some herbal cough syrup and then added some extra vitamin C, D3, etc. along with Cayenne pepper capsules and Oil of Oregano capsules. I figured bringing out the big guns would surely knock out whatever was attacking us.

We had to stay home from work a day here and there since we had intermittent fever, though certainly nothing really high, and after a day or two, we'd feel a bit better and go back to work only to find that we were relapsing into the same state of being sick and feeling completely devoid of energy. Nevertheless, I kept us on the remedies and finally a few days before Thanksgiving, we were what you might consider, well enough to celebrate with the family, though not bouncing with energy by any means. Still, since we weren't feverish, had no head congestion, and only an annoying intermittent ticklish cough, we didn't feel that we'd contaminate anyone. So far we're still feeling almost back to normal, though here it is beginning of December and the effects of the virus....whatever it was... is just now fading away.

I have no idea what kind of viral infection we've had but needless to say that I was amazed that the CS didn't knock it out right away since we've relied on it so much over the past several years. It's been quite a learning experience and I don't know what if anything we should have done differently?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, though I know you can only relate personal experiences.

Once again, thanks for the timely newsletter and I look forward to the next one with anticipation. Best regards, Mare

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Mare,

From your description you are orally ingesting the Colloidal Silver. And that's fine for as a general anti viral. But if I get a bad sinus infection (head cold as you describe) then much, much more effective is the direct application into the sinus cavity via simply sniffing a teaspoon quantity from palm of hand straight into the sinus on both sides.

Also consider ear syringe for ears. The infection might be in the ear canals and the Eustachian tubes could be infected (a typical source of secondary infections; even when one is on antibiotics, it is well known that bacteria can survive in the Eustachian tubes and cause secondary infections).

Replied by Mare
Clemmons, Nc
10 posts

Thanks for the reply Dave. I wasn't aware that drops of the CS could be used in the ear canal, or the sinuses, however I'll try that next time. I knew about using Hydrogen Peroxide in the ears, but since we were taking so many remedies, I didn't think to try that this time. And while I'm on about the ear often should the CS be applied?

Thank goodness we're all better now after relentlessly keeping on with the home remedies and hope it's the last we'll see of any more viral infections at our house. Stay well everybody. Mare

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello again Mare,

I've found an inner ear infection can be knocked out with only a few applications. Once a trip to the ocean produced an ear infection; hearing in both ears almost completely closed off. I though perhaps water had gotten caught inside the "labyrinth" but the MD after examining said that both ears were inflamed and infected and gave me a prescription for antibiotics.

Well, I thanked him and promptly went home and using an ear syringe applied Colloidal Silver in both ears....instant relief...I could hear perfectly again. Just to make sure, reapplied later that night. Problem solved.

Eucalyptus Oil

Posted by Redclary (Okc, Ok) on 02/09/2012
5 out of 5 stars

With this new virus that is going around, my husband and I have tried many new ways for relief. We got a small humidifier and use a few drops of eucalyptus oil in it. It works wonderfully. The best sleep we have gotten and the house smells so fresh. It keeps the humidifier clean also.

Human T-Lymphotropic Virus (Htlv) Remedies

Posted by Ron (London,ontario,canada) on 10/24/2013

I am seeking some information on treatments on HTLV 1.

Can you make any suggestions or recommendations on any I can live longer? I have been testing positive for HTLV 1 for 8 years now and I think I am starting to show symptoms.

Replied by Nanowriter
Hotspot, Texas

You may want to try liposomal vit c at high dosages. vit C is a powerful antiviral. There was an Australian man who had his hairy cell leukemia resolve using liposomal Vit C (some sort of 60 Minutes type program featured him and his family's struggle with the medical establishment). HCL is associated with HTLV-2--The same family as HTLV-1, I would think, so it would seem very likely it would respond to vit C.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Ron from Canada,

In re Htlv;

A good article on Htlv... a retro virus... on Wikipedia and for those interested in retro viruses also a mind numbing article on the method of host cell invasion by this particular envelope virus.

It is hard to kill an envelope virus. The envelope is a protection surrounding the virus.

So the attack on such a virus requires tenacity over time. There are lots of anit virals which are "natural."

At the top of my list is colloidal silver, my standby for twenty years. If this were me, I'd take three tablespoons daily on empty stomach. Self monitoring is crucial. I'd expect to see improvement within a month. For instance, if I manifested with a gait problem, then in a month I'd expect to see my walking improve by maybe 10 percent. So that would encourage me to continue.

To kill an envelope virus that has infested body wide I would be taking orally 3 tablespoons for two to three years. YEARS. I'd not want to over consume the CS. Too great a kill off could be harmful; it's slow and easy. (To test your CS to make sure it is effective, if you get a sinus infection or sore throat, then irrigate the sinus for the former and gargle for the later and you SHOULD see immediate relief if your CS is effective. That's the test...does it work?! ?

There are other viral killers; echinacia, Lysine, lomatium, N Acetyl Cystine, germanium 132, lauric acid, sodium lauryl sulfate, zinc, lavander oil, tea tree oil, magnesium chloride, squalamine, Calcium AEP and DMSO. BHT seems to work on Hep B and C, that might also be considered.

So I might be eclectic but I'd consider the basic to be Colloidal Silver. And I'd also give myself a weekly sinus/ear irrigation of the silver. If I feel the infection in the lungs, I'd get an inhaler and breathe deeply the CS as a steam...for three or four minutes a few times weekly.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2109 posts

@Dave: Would you also recommend the Beck Protocol of C.S. alternated w/ Zapping? This method may be more powerful than either alone.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

Hello Tim,

Thank you for your great question: I'm all for trying out different things...the eclectic idea. If you want to alternate, that's fine but I'd alternate after a full three weeks on one and then the Beck's and then the Zapping. Not all mixed. After all, if one works, you'd want to know that it was a specific one that helped. Then you go to another protocol with a different one, and that one maybe didn't help, so you know to eliminate the second...etc.

What do you think?

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
2109 posts

Looks like it depends on the severity of the case. For many folks, disease is usually well advanced before it becomes an obvious issue. So yes, try one substance for a few weeks and measure results, and if no results add another. Also, cleaning up the external & internal environment may be essential for rebuilding the immune system.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Dave, the way you describe is the rational way to do things. But people are anxious for a quicker cure, so we try many things together or in quick succession!

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc

To Mmsg...somewhere in Europe:

Re your post on the "rational way to do things" ... you are so right. And it costs us in the long run, to be impatient I mean. The methodical process of elimination would tell you which method is working.

Best to you.

Posted by Tiredofvirusuk (London, Uk) on 03/07/2013

Hi all, I hope someone out there can help. I have been diagnosed with being infected with the  Human T-lymphotropic virus (HTLV). It is a particularly nasty and debilitating virus, symptoms of which cause arthritis and various pains, rashes on the body and sores/blisters in the mouth and gums.

I only recently found out I have this virus and believe I may have been infected more then 3 yrs ago, as it was then that I experienced all these aches and pains that the doctors diagnosed as arthritis. Anyway I have been reading various remedies on EarthClinic with great interest. In particular interested in using BHT to treat it seeing as Oscar and many others have used it to successfully treat their Hepatitis. Do you think BHT will work with the HTLV Virus ?

Look forward to your response thanks.

Replied by Oscar
Syracuse, New York

I tried for over an hour to find out if this virus is lipid coated or not. It is a virus that is coated [ not all viruses are coated ]. It is NOT clear to me whether or not it is a lipid coated virus. It is related in some ways to the HIV virus that IS a lipid coated virus. The BHT works best against viruses that are to some degree lipid coated. That is as much as I could find out. So MAYBE the BHT will help. The BHT surely does not cost much. It seems worth a try. If you choose to give BHT a try start with small amounts and work up to NO more than 350mg of BHT twice a day=700mg of BHT....Oscar

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, La Union, Philippines

Hi Tiredofvirusuk... I believe that the human T-Lymphotropic Virus is indeed an enveloped virus and so taking remedies like BHT, coconut oil, chanca piedra (as advertized on this site against enveloped viruses) etc may well help your problem:

"HTLV-1 is an enveloped virus that contains two identical copies of a plus single-stranded RNA genome and an outer envelope containing protruding viral glycoproteins. This virus is known as a retrovirus because the RNA genome directs the formation of a DNA molecule, which ultimately acts as the template for synthesis of viral mRNA. Because most retroviruses do not kill their host cells, infected cells can replicate, producing daughter cells with integrated proviral DNA. These daughter cells continue to transcribe the proviral DNA and bud progeny virions."

Source: (Virion Structure)

Replied by Tiredofvirusuk
London, Uk

Hi Oscar and Bill,

Thanks very much for your replies. Yes I wasn't sure if it was an enveloped virus either but according to what Bill has mentioned it is, so I will give the BHT a try aswell as the other items mentioned by Bill. Thanks so much, I will take these items and give an update periodically on any results good or bad experienced.

Oscar, just thought I'd let you know, I started on the BHT last Monday 4th March 2013. I took one capsule of 350mg (its the Vitamin Research Products) brand and I know from reading all your posts this is the brand you have been using to achieve your truly remarkable results of eliminating the Hep C and B virus for good. So as per your advice I took one capsule on Monday, but had no side effects etc, so on Tues I took one 350mg in the morning and one late afternoon, both on an empty stomach again no effects experienced good or bad. Then on Weds I ramped it up to 2 x 350mg caps in the morning and 2 x 350mg caps in the late afternoon again on empty stomach. On Thursday I did the same so that was 1400mg a day. On the Friday, Sat and Sun I am back to 2 capsules a day as I noticed in your posts you don't recommend more than 700mg a day which is what I'm currently on.

I haven't had any effects as of yet good or bad. I was wondering how long would it take before I have any indication as to whether it is working or not.

As a side point prior to taking the BHT, I was taking ACV a dash in a cup of water with a teaspoon of Manuka honey twice a day - this greatly reduced a chronic pain in the right side of my stomach, I was also taking Black Seed Oil two teaspoons a day and Olive Leaf Extract capsules - around 8 a day.

Although this mix seemed to reduce most of the arthritic pain in my joints it never removed it completely.

However now I am taking the BHT, I have put everything on hold with the exception of the ACV that I am now taking in the evenings only. Do I have to take the BHT on its own or is it okay to take other things during the day - not at the same time as taking the BHT but say an hour or two after, or would you just take the BHT with nothing else ?

I also read the e-book link you posted in one of your posts and that was a very interesting read, so I have high hoped of this BHT in helping me combat this virus I have. How long did it take you before you realised the BHT was working ? Do you think a week is to short to assess whether it is working or not, as at the moment I haven't experienced anything that would indicate to me that it is working or not.

Kindest of regards....

Replied by Pete
Los Angeles

Hello Oscar & Bill from Philippines. I have had a problem with a pain in my chest that would radiate up into my jaw and ear on the right side and give me a panic attack. I had found that it was not a heart attack. I would feel spaced out when this happens. Would you have any idea what is causing this? I cannot drink a beer or enjoy it. I always have a taste in my mouth. If you have any idea on how to treat this or have a name for it, it would be appreciated. Thank you

P.S. Must be viral

Replied by Ray
Brooklyn, Nyc

I am wondering as a long time consumer of BHT (4 life extension), & a new consumer of Lyposomal (livonlabs) "C"; If the BHT might lessen the beneficial "lipid-coating" of the "C" (as if it were a lipid-coated virus)? Or, since viruses are not known to have Ultrasonic Vibration capabilities, perhaps this is not a problem & the BHT might help the "C" & visa versa? The bottom line is I do not want to give up the long term benefits of BHT, or miss out on the benefits of Lypo C... Thanks for any help you can give, Ray

Replied by Swfowkes
Cupertino, California
35 posts

Dear Tired: The HTLV / HIV virus / viruses are indeed lipid enveloped. I keep a list of known lipid-enveloped viruses in The BHT Book, to which Oscar linked years ago.

The book is a free PDF download. To get the latest version, go to the steve page at Project Wellbeing (dot com) and click on the book. Then "save to disk" to archive it on your computer.

Just a note regarding ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses: they are not only lipid-enveloped to make them difficult to treat and very virulent, they also have a special anti-selenium mechanism in their genome, which causes massive depletion of selenium as the virus replicates. It appears that ALL of the hemorrhagic fevers have this selenomethionine-coding sequence. So in my opinion, BHT is fundamentally insufficient as a mono-therapy for hemorrhagic fevers. Selenium supplementation to prevent acute selenium depletion is also needed. As far as I know, this anti-selenium aspect of such viruses is well known, but nobody has yet allowed selenium therapy to be used.

Hydrogen Peroxide

Posted by Erick (Houston Tx) on 09/15/2014

How much drop should a person add to the drinking water for food grade hydrogen peroxide. This is my first time doing this. Can you please tell me step by step. I have a virus. Does food grade hydrogen peroxide helps get rid of my virus? please help me thx.

Posted by Roy (Brampton, Canada) on 04/10/2013
5 out of 5 stars

For all you folks with the flu as well as families with babies, a good idea is to get hold of a vaporizer and fill it with distilled water. Add hydrogen peroxide to it and let all who sleep with this device in thier rooms benifit. People with Asthma, sarcoidosis, emphysema, Lung cancer, and any other disease that affects you, can benifit from this therapy.

Posted by Cristine (Cape Town, South Africa) on 05/14/2009

Liquid HP for babies?

Im desperate! My baby and my entire family have what we assume is RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) a virus that appears as a cold with like symptoms but sometimes presents itself as a runny tummy. So the symptoms are very varied and no-one can tell unless you go for tests, which I dont really have th money for. The other thing is that you get infected and re-infected over and over. On doing some research they say that the only treatment, since nothing works not even antibiotics, which my baby has been on for about 2 months with breaks in between. Anyway the research says that the only possible solution is oxygen... so I thought maybe a few drops of HP?? Please tell me this will work, I've having sleepless nights for the last 2 months and its really getting us all down and more unhealthy. PLEASE HELP ME! If you have any info or guidelines as to how much HP I can administer to a baby and the safety of it used in babies, please let me know. It scares me to administer it to her - she's 9 months old by the way.

Replied by Swfowkes
Cupertino, California
35 posts

Babies can be much more sensitive to oxidative stresses, so you are right on target with your concern. Babies with Down's syndrome undergoing heart-defect surgery have immense oxidative stress. Surgeons did not know how bad it was.

Oxygen therapies can be delivered to the lungs (or through the lungs). But the lungs, sinuses and eyes live in an oxygen atmosphere to the highest degree of all tissues, so they are "closer to the edge" of being overwhelmed by oxidative stress. But they are also more highly adapted to oxygen and oxidative stress. And adaptable.

Oxygen therapies include oxygen gas (from a tank or oxygen concentrator), hyperbaric oxygen (pressurized air), negative ions (superoxide, from a negative ion generator), ozone (NOT good for the lungs, AT ALL), and hypochlorite (bleach, from Asea). I do not know an easy way to pick among these without some scientific, clinical or research expertise to guide you. But access to the scientific and medical literature is available through the internet, so you have a fighting chance. And it only took me one minute to find out that RSV is a lipid-enveloped virus and because of that, potentially susceptible to BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene, a food preservative and antiviral agent, and an antiviral therapy discussed elsewhere in Earth Clinic). Before you get too excited about BHT, I would caution you that it has liver toxicity in humans and lung toxicity in mice. So it would take significant medical supervision to use safely in a baby or infant.

I would suggest that you read The BHT Book (a free PDF download from the steve page at Project Wellbeing (dot com). It will give you two things: (1) an understanding of the context of BHT, and (2) a view of the pro-viral and anti-viral side of vitamins, minerals, nutrients, amino acids, and other components of diet and lifestyle. I think a nutritional strategy is fundamentally safer than using a drug.

For any respiratory viral condition, I would use a nebulizer as my first tool of choice. I do this myself because of my own constitutional susceptibility to sinus and respiratory infection. I have administered vitamin C, colloidal silver and tincture of iodine by this method. Traditionally, nebulizers are used to deliver drugs for asthma and other lung/airway conditions. But they can be used to deliver nutrients. I have not done it, but others have used nebulizers to deliver glutathione to the body through the lungs. The lungs have an immense surface area for nutrient absorption, much greater than the surface skin of the entire body. It's a good strategic back-up plan for situations where swallowing a capsule or tablet is not viable.

Nebulizer costs are now well under $100.

There is also a brief mention of antiviral therapy through vitamin A for measles in children, which I will quote here. "To provide a counterexample to these two liabilities, I offer the following special message regarding measles infections in children. This message deals with the known beneficial effects of vitamin A—one of the antiviral nutrients discussed in the book—on the clinical course of measles infections. When very high doses (approximately 300 times the RDA) of vitamin A were administered in routine clinical practice, the hospital stay was decreased by 20%, the need for intensive care was reduced by 60% and deaths were cut by 68% (Hussey and Klein, 1993). No adverse effects were observed. A previous double-blind study of 189 children hospitalized with severe measles found comparable results (Hussey and Klein, 1990). Of the twelve children who died, ten were in the placebo group and two were in the high vitamin A group."

Best wishes.

Posted by John (Boston, MA) on 09/26/2006
5 out of 5 stars

I had developed some kind of nasty flu-like condition while in school. I don't normally get sick alot, and when I do it's not really all that bad, but this was really bad and was lingering around for weeks. I was really puzzled, but also quite miserable, and I don't trust doctors and I don't have a lot of money anyway. So one day I was looking for something on the web and stumbled across the hydrogen proxide cures of Bill Munroe and was at once intrigued, but dubious. After all, I was told by my Dad once when I was really young that hydrogen peroxide is "poisonous" which I took to mean "lethal on contact" or something since I must have been like 2 or 3 at the time. Anyway, I felt so bad from this flu thing that I decided what the heck, I'll put it in my ears. I knew that there might be some bubbling, but when I put it in my left ear, WOW, like it exploded *foosh* and scared the bejesus out of me at first, but it didn't hurt it just took me by surprise. The other ear bubbled far more mildly. Anyway, couldn't tell f it was working right then, but the next morning I KNEW I felt better. My muscled didn't hurt as much, my head felt much clearer, and I was able to cough out gobs of phlem that had been just stuck there for weeks, making my thoat raw with coughing. I inhaled it some too the next day by putting it in a plant sprayer and spraying it at a fan I was standing in front of, occasionally taking deep breaths of the fan-air. This made me feel strangingly happy and energetic, and also mildly light-headed. It was not a good idea to use the fan this way, however, because a little drop of H2O2 got in my eye once and that wasn't fun! Stings pretty bad far a few seconds. The big companies will never cop to the benefits of a substance that cannot be patented.

Replied by Swfowkes
Cupertino, California
35 posts

Next time, use a nebulizer. They deliver an ultra-fine mist of whatever liquid you put into the reservoir and direct it through a nozzle that you can breath in, or spray on your skin. They now cost under $100!