MSM for Hidradenitis Suppurativa
Wed, 26 Feb 14 11:23:18 -0600
I have tried almost every remedy on this site with little results, aside from turmeric, which really only slowed the rapid growth of the massive infections.
I hit my limit one day and went to a natural foods store with a very long list of things I was going to try from this site. I ended up speaking to the owner of the store who asked what I was dealing with. I reluctantly told him, because as you know, it is very embarrassing. He immediately said it sounded like a Ph issue and recommended organic sulfur (MSM).
I started taking 1 tsp in water morning and night. I felt the pain had started to go away the first night. By the third day I could lightly pinch the abscess, which was quite large, with almost no pain. I would have been excruciating before. By the end of the week it was shrinking and COMPLETELY gone by two weeks. It is nothing short of amazing. I can have a normal life again.
It has been almost a year and I have had only one issue, only because I quit taking it regularly. I felt a little Pain on my inner thigh and felt a hard lump under the skin about the size of a pencil eraser. I didn't immediately panic and get upset. I started taking the organic sulfur again and in two days I can't feel it anymore.
It was very expensive in the store, but I found 4xs the amount on Amazon for half the price. My fiance and I have been taking it regularly, for the most part and have seen our allergy symptoms dramatically decrease, he has started regrowing hair, and reduce sinus infections.
It is recommended to buy the powder, not capsules, because anti-caking agents inhibit its results. Don't eat or drink anything for about 10 minutes after and don't mix it with anything but water. It is kind of bitter and doesn't taste very good. I noticed it tastes much better if I mix it in hot or very warm water and it dissolves right away.
Please try it and let everyone know how it works for you. I went to the doctor many times over the years and NOTHING helped. I have had many abscesses lanced and packed and it is awful. I didn't want to post to early as not to raise anyone's hopes. But I am more than sure now."
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Additionally, progesterone is a natural stress reliever and acid reducer (namely in the stomach and esophagus). I found this through my own research and discussions with my chiropractor/nutritionist/hormone therapy doctor. At the onset of this illness I was in the throws of my mother (whom I shared an extremely close and loving relationship with) entering the downward spiral of COPD, and I was in periomenopause (where your hormones are on the decline), and also a single mother preparing to send my only daughter off to college...not to mention I decided to quit my job of 20 years and start up my own business. What a perfect storm of stress and hormone depletion!!
Needless to say....I am excited and thrilled to no end right now. As I type this I have zero burning in my mouth. Yesterday I experienced maybe 2 hours of slight burning (range of about 3 on pain level). My pain level prior to the Zegerid was running a 7-8, bringing me to tears and monopolizing my entire life daily. As Becca mentioned, no one knows what this can do to your mind and body.
Thank you all so very much again and I will continue to keep you posted. If I have indeed found my remedy, after nearly 2 years and 8 months, I certainly want to help others.
Kristine"
Anyway, after about a week or two of these "episodes", my neck began to ache (all over, front and back) and my throat started to burn. It was awful. Gradually, I began feeling strange sensations in my tongue, which soon changed to a burning feeling- around the sides, at the tip, and even on the top. It was bizarre and terrifying to have such unusual symptoms. Eventually, my tongue even felt very sore, so sore that I talked a little funny at times (b/c I was "babying" my tongue, I think).
While experiencing all of this, between early-March and early-June 2012, I saw my PCP 3x, an ENT, a GI (APRN), and a neck/back specialist. (I also went to the ER once where I was seen, diagnosed with a sore throat, and sent home.) I felt terrible and was so desperate for some relief! (By the way, blood work and neck x-rays were negative.) A few docs, including the ER MD, felt I had a virus (for which I was first given Ibuprofen/Tylenol and later antibiotic treatments), then a few other docs suspected acid reflux. I couldn't believe that acid reflux could cause me to feel so terrible especially since I was unaware of any symptoms! Although I wanted to dismiss reflux as a possible cause, I was feeling desperate, so I tried whatever was recommended, including Maalox (2 tbsp) at bedtime (recommended by 1 ENT), then prescription medication (for reflux) in the A. M. (such as Aciphex), always 1/2 hour before breakfast (recommended by the GI APRN). With time, I felt a little improvement, but not much. So I continued to doubt the whole reflux theory; I spent so much time in fear that I had a serious illness. Why else would I feel so awful with such unusual symptoms?
Finally, my PCP sent me to a second ENT in early/mid June, about three weeks ago (for a second ENT opinion). He listened, answered all of my questions, and majorly eased my fears. While he suggested Burning Mouth Syndrome as a possibility (maybe caused by anxiety/depression, a hormonal imbalance or neuropathy), he too, felt that acid reflux might be the culprit and needed to be ruled out first. (Note: He didn't see signs and symptoms of a vitamin deficiency or thrush or lichen planus, which can cause burning mouth). He just asked me to be patient and follow his recommendations...
He seemed to be really knowledgeable; For one thing, I was impressed as he was the only doctor I saw who knew a considerable amount about BMS! (He said he had seen about 30 cases in 15 years, almost all women.) Anyway, he disagreed with the other ENT I had seen and the GI I had seen re: their treatment recommendations for possible reflux, at least in my case. He said that I had "silent reflux", which explained why I was unaware of any symptoms. He said that Maalox at bedtime wasn't enough, and taking medication in the a.m. (I. E. Aciphex) wasn't doing me any good as I was experiencing "silent reflux" at NIGHT. He recommended Zegrid (over the counter, 20 mg) for 4 weeks; he wanted me to take it in the evening rather than the a.m. Again, I was doubtful, wondering if, again, I was just wasting my time and money. (This has gotten quite expensive as I'm sure you can imagine! ) Anyway, it's been almost 3 weeks and I'm feeling MUCH, MUCH better! Seriously, I went from being on the verge of tears (almost nightly) due to tongue discomfort, and gargling with Maalox (and other remedies) multiple times a day to rarely thinking about my tongue (d/t a lack of discomfort) and no gargling (with one exception, which I'll mention in a minute). My pain, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the worst) went from about an average of 8 to an average of 1 or 2! :) The choking feeling stopped first, then the burning in my throat went away; gradually, the aches and pains in my neck ceased, and finally my tongue burning and soreness subsided! But it did take time (3 weeks and counting) and patience like the doc said.
In short, I felt I just had to write and post on "Earth Clinic" b/c I had visited this website many times while trying to find relief for my burning/painful tongue. Others provided me with some helpful suggestions (and support), so I figured now it's my turn to (hopefully) help others.
In conclusion, here are my thoughts having been through this burning tongue/bottom lip/throat nightmare myself: First of all, while very uncomfortable, don't panic and don't think the worst (like I did). Be persistent (with your doctor), experiment with various remedies (from sucking on ice to gargling with Maalox), and, most importantly, be patient and positive (if at all possible)... Remember, it took 3 months for me to find a doctor with the right "remedy" and then weeks of using the this remedy (20 mg Zegerid OTC in the evening x 28 days) for me to feel ALMOST total relief. Seriously, I never thought I'd see this day (a couple of months back)!
Please note, I started taking folic acid and Vit. B Stress pills (in the A. M.) at about the same time I started taking Zegerid. I also started brushing my teeth (and gargling) with Biotene 2x/day awhile back. I figured I had nothing to lose. While I don't think I have (or ever had) a vitamin deficiency, I started taking vitamins b/c it was suggested by others with BMS symptoms. The ENT said my tongue would be bright red and shiny, which it wasn't, if I was suffering from a vitamin deficency. Just thought I should mention this anyway...
Good Luck to anyone suffering from a burning mouth/tongue. I know it's terrible, but I really think you can find some relief if you're able to get to the root of the problem. It may take awhile and, unfortunately, quite a bit of money, but it can be done, so please don't lose hope! Strive to meet with a doctor familiar with the various causes of BMS as this should save you a lot of time and unnecessary (and costly) doctor visits.
All My Best, Ashley"
11/22/2013: Kay from Bala Cynwyd, Pa: "To Judy from Australia- did you BMS stop? Your story sounds like mine."
02/21/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I am 46 years old and have had burning tongue/mouth syndrome for 2 years and 7 months and yes, have spent literally thousands of dollars on doctor/dentist/specialists, lab work, more lab work, etc and am currently on Dr. #11. My chiropractor/nutritionist is helping the most. My story is similar in that the burning mouth and neck pain started together. Sometimes things seem to help and then the burning comes back and progressively gets worse. I have tried every remedy out there and then some. I have cleaned my body of yeast, have lost 15 pounds on an already very slim frame, avoid sugars (except red wine in evening. It numbs my mouth and is my only source of relief), breads, found I am very allergic to all dairy and eggs and have slight to moderate allergies of many foods. I eat extremely healthy and am scared of literally everything I consume. I am perimenopausal and the burning tongue/mouth and neck pain started in the midst of my mother's decline in her long battle with COPD. Some doctors thought it was stress related and the burning would subside after she passed. She died 15 months ago and it has not left. I have not had a single day without burning in my mouth in 2 years and 7 months. I am going to try the Zegrid starting tonight. My chiropractor ran tests that show I am significantly lacking in progesterone and when I started the natural oil 2 weeks ago, it made a tremendous improvement in the burning sensation. 2 weeks on progesterone, then 2 weeks off. I just started the 2 weeks off, 2 days ago, and they burning returned with a vengeance. This is a horrible affliction. I can sympathize with those that end their lives over this. This is all consuming and prior to this affliction, I rarely visited doctors. There is so much more I could write but I will stop for now and check back in once I have gone through a few rounds of progesterone and a month of Zegrid. Wish me luck please. And luck to everyone out there who suffers from this devastating affliction. Thank you for sharing Ashley.Kristine"
02/21/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Have you tried supplementing with magnesium? Most of us are low on it and stress will cause you to burn through it. A quick google showed a study that found a connection between burning mouth and magnesium deficiency."
02/21/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Hi Kristine.Burning mouth seems to be a form of neuropathy. Burning is a common sensation of neuropathy, Maybe the myelin of the nerves is being destroyed. Have you tried the methylcobalamin, benfotiamine and R alpha lipoic acid remedies.
"In one study, researchers followed 42 women and 18 men with burning mouth syndrome. The patients were given either 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid or placebos three times daily for two months. Nearly all of the patients on alpha lipoic acid showed improvement compared to placebo, and 75 percent benefited substantially, with some experiencing complete recovery."
You mentioned that your mother who passed away had COPD. I am just curious what remedies she had tried."
02/22/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you both for your feedback. Yes, I have tried magnesium injections to no benefit. I have yet to try ALA but it did read very much about it on this site. My intention was to try the Zegerid at bedtime as Ashley had mentioned, give it a month, and if it did not help, switch to ALA. Or should I try the ALA first?Thinking it was a neuropathy, we tried gabapentin for several months increasing the dosage to 2600 mg but the side effects were worsening and my BTS/BMS did not improve, although it did in the beginning.
My mother did not have BTS, just COPD. She lived much longer than any doctor predicted and they were actually amazed b/c she lived for more than 2 years after she fell and broke her hip. At the time of her fall her lung capacity was 12.5%. She was on oxygen for 9 years prior to her death.
Thank you very much for any and all advice.
Kristine"
02/22/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Zegrid has serious side effects: easy bruising or bleeding, unusual weakness; fast or slow heartbeats; or low magnesium (dizziness, confusion, fast or uneven heart rate, jerking muscle movements, jittery feeling, muscle cramps, muscle weakness or limp feeling, cough or choking feeling, seizure) ... This isn't a drug you want to be on for the long term. Even if you do get some relief with it, I'd keep searching for something more natural.I'd make sure you use Right ALA. I'd go with right ALA first since your system may be more clean of medications."
02/23/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "To Kristine in Chicago.....try 1500 to 1800 mg of sustained release alpha lipoic acid along with a good b12 supplement....the ALA literally saved my life. It's not completely gone because I think part of mine is related to my thyroid, but I am living again. There are many medical studies related to ALA at that dosage and BMS. Good luck!"
02/24/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris from FL and Becca from Abilene: Thank you both so very much for your input. I started on the Zegerid 2 nights ago and changed my diet/lifestyle (once again) in the hopes of some relief. I have noticed a big difference in the chemistry of my mouth in the am, but the burning, albeit less, still persists (and I know this is not an over night solution). Given all of the information I am seeing posted re: ALA, I believe I can take this with the Zegerid. Is this correct? I want to give the Zegerid time to help with the reflux because after all of the research I have done on silent reflux (LBR), and my lifestyle and diet, I believe this could be the culprit. I have every symptom of LBR except heartburn, and I realize most people who suffer from LBR do not present with heartburn. So now I have changed my diet and eating habits (I was always a late dinner eater), switched to alkaline water, am taking the Zegerid and would like to add ALA but have seen varying posts about the dosage. I am 5'6 and 107 pounds currently. Also, the burning really returned with a vengeance after I stopped the progesterone oil at bedtime (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off). After researching the internet and talking with my chiropractor/nutritionist, I found that progesterone neutralizes acid in the esophagus and stomach. And is a natural stress reliever. Stress causes more acid reflux. Ugh! I am obsessed and all consumed with this condition. I cannot believe I still have it after this long. I feel as if I cannot move forward in life or honestly enjoy life to the fullest until I get this constant burning pain under control.Again, I really appreciate your input. I want to start on the ALA but need to be sure I am taking the correct dosage. And then again, I am concerned that starting on too many things (Zegerid, ALA and natural progesterone...which my doc says is very much needed as I am completely depleted of this hormone) will cause confusion as to which is beneficial for this condition, although all may be.
Thanks again!
Kristine"
02/24/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Kristine: 4oz canned sweet potatoes every other day makes progesterone. 1g hops extract prevents them from being aromatized."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I think the progesterone being a hormone would be the highest priority especially if you are depleted. Being depleted of any hormone could set off a chain reaction of problems in your body.I would stop taking the Zegerid and take the R-ALA. The other poster mentioned taking 1500-1800 grams and that being affective for her. I would consider that dosage since it was effective for her. They say that 300 grams is therapeutic dose. Start at 300 and work your way up. Maybe you won't need as high a dose. Even studies have used up to 1200mg for 3 weeks or so.
Experiment with Zegerid later. I'd be concerned about how the Zegerid interacts with the other two the most. I know you started it so may be pain to stop it but that is just my 2 cents worth."
02/25/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "I too am not a fan of the Zegarid....could actually compound the problem. You might try Mastic Gum..one capsule morning and evening....medically proven to heal stomach issues....took myself and worked great. As far as the dosage of ALA...most of the clinical trials said that some relief started at 600 mg....most got significant relief at 1200 to 1800 mg per day with no negative side effects noted and was studied for two years. I agree...start low and increase slow. My endo gave me progesterone capsules to take everyday...I take sporadically. Never heard of low progesterone being linked to BMS....but hormones do crazy things to the body so you never know. Hang in there...no one that has never experienced it can begin to understand what it does to the body and mind."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Just for clarification. Are those doses of ALA the ALA or the R-ALA?"
02/26/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris, Becca, and Mike62: Thank you so very much for all of your input and help you have shared. I really appreciate it. But I have to admit that I have stayed on the Zegerid at bedtime and the changes have been amazing. I have also committed to the diet and lifestyle of acid reflux sufferers, buying the book "Dropping Acid, The Reflux Diet Cookbook and Cure". I have nearly every symptom of this problem and medicine, namely Zegerid (1 of approx 5 listed) is needed to help alleviate the symptoms of Silent Reflux or LBR). LBR is different than GERD, that is why I was unaware of my condition. The changes since taking the Zegerid and changing my diet and eating habits is tremendous!!Additionally, progesterone is a natural stress reliever and acid reducer (namely in the stomach and esophagus). I found this through my own research and discussions with my chiropractor/nutritionist/hormone therapy doctor. At the onset of this illness I was in the throws of my mother (whom I shared an extremely close and loving relationship with) entering the downward spiral of COPD, and I was in periomenopause (where your hormones are on the decline), and also a single mother preparing to send my only daughter off to college...not to mention I decided to quit my job of 20 years and start up my own business. What a perfect storm of stress and hormone depletion!!
Needless to say....I am excited and thrilled to no end right now. As I type this I have zero burning in my mouth. Yesterday I experienced maybe 2 hours of slight burning (range of about 3 on pain level). My pain level prior to the Zegerid was running a 7-8, bringing me to tears and monopolizing my entire life daily. As Becca mentioned, no one knows what this can do to your mind and body.
Thank you all so very much again and I will continue to keep you posted. If I have indeed found my remedy, after nearly 2 years and 8 months, I certainly want to help others.
Kristine"
02/26/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I'll add one more thing you can do.Zegerid side effects may not be good for you long term. It may just mask the symptom and then boomerang on you later on. Research anectdotal reports of long term use of Zegerid and see what it is doing to other people so you can nip any problem in the bud.
I'd experiment with Stabilized Na R-ALA after you've had a good vacation from pain. If it works, it will be more healthier for your body over the long term. Good Luck."
02/27/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thanks Prioris. I will check back in to confirm how I am doing. I intend on adding the ALA in time (unless I go pain free for a very long period of time). I have only been on the Zegerid for 5 nights now. Burning now and then but remain hopeful. I know it takes takes weeks for full benefits of Zegerid to take effect. I do agree that possibly the stress and burning has caused damage to the myelin and therefore I will need the ALA. Either way, I will check back in. Again, many thanks to everyone.Kristine"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Up until a few weeks ago, I had never heard of this. What I did come across was a show on TV that had featured something very similar. In this case the cause was the person's high blood pressure meds. When meds were changed the symptoms went away. Don't know if it will help but - something to consider."
02/27/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "It's ALA."
02/28/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Becca, Prioris and Ed: I am going out to get the ALA today. I did more research on Silent Reflux and BMS and find that some patients take the Zegerid and ALA together. They take the Zegerid to help control the reflux, and the ALA for the burning pain. Also, finding so many cases where BMS is directly related to Silent Reflux (LBR). Burning persists, at about a 1-3 today and yesterday....at least not the 7-8 I had been experiencing.Becca, how long did it take for the ALA to kick in and give you relief? I am going to start at 200mg 3x a day and increase it weekly until I get up to your recommended dosage. Prioris: I am having some of the side effects from the Zegerid but hope they will subside over time (headache, muscle cramping). The headache could be from not eating as well. So difficult to eat as it inevitably increases the burning. Certain foods make it very bad, while others not so bad. I am trying to be patient and let the meds and diet kick in.
Ed: I do not have high blood pressure but do appreciate your input. My blood pressure always runs on the low side. Unless the burning pain is high. At the onset of my neck pain and burning tongue I was on zero medications. Not a single one.
Thanks again everyone. I am determined and hopeful. I can function at a pain level of 1-3. When it creeps up to 7-8 that's when life gets very rough. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate all of your input. Please stay tuned as I feel I may have more questions. Thanks-
Kristine"
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I was desperate....I started out on 900mg of a high quality sustained release brand and I also wanted to get alkalined quickly so I drank 1/2 tsp of cooking grade baking soda in about 6 oz of water the first night right before I went to bed. I did the same thing the next morning. I took 600 mg that night...no baking soda. I did this for several days and then cut out the daily baking soda...just every few days if I have an acidic meal. I continue the 900 mg in the morning and another 600 in the afternoon. I saw results quickly....with 12 to 18 hours. I also us a liquid vitamin b supplement and take vitamin d....both very important in nerve conduction and neuropathy. Don't be afraid of the ALA...and definitely do the baking soda with it for the first few days."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "Today I gave someone from some ALA I had lying around - about 600mg - to try for their neuropathy. They experienced bad heart burn. It is better absorbed on empty stomach but some people need to take it with food. For people who haven't taken larger doses of ALA, it is something to be aware of.Stabilized Na R-ALA has the advantage of R-ALA. It also has contaminants removed. It suppose to have the highest bioavailability (40 to 60 percent more). It also suppose to NOT have heart burn and stomach upset properties of the other types. I ordered some Na R-ALA a couple days ago so will see how that does."
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris...am curious where you got information on the R ALA. None of the clinical studies I read mentioned a "stabilized" version of ALA. I would love to read up on it if you would share."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "This goes into more details about Alpha Lipoic Acid and why you may want stabilized form. I hadn't looked into ALA for quite a few years and found out things I hadn't been aware of. http://claudiap.hubpages.com/hub/What-to-Be-Very-Careful-About-When-You-Get-Alpha-Lipoic-Acid"
03/01/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris.....thanks for the info. Been reading up on it and have decided to give it a try. Just as DIM is the stable form of Indole Carbinol 3 ...which is what my doctor put me on years ago before the stabilized derivative was discovered..and is safer to use...i understand the stability issue of taking natural remedies. Although I have had great success with the ALA that I have been taking...there is still some unresolved issues and the brand that I trust also has the Stabalized R ALA and I should be able to take fewer tablets. Thanks again for the info....and God's health to you!"
03/01/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "In one brand of the Bioenhanced Stabilized Na R-ALA I saw a note for Burning Mouth Syndrome"Please note: For BMS (Burning Mouth Syndrome) we recommend you take 2 capsules 4 times a day until you see results. Then you can reduce the amount slowly until you see what works for you.
1 capsule = 150mg"
03/02/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I picked up the only ALA I could find at the Vitamin Shop. There were 2 types and I bought both. One is a triple strength ALA rapid release at 300mg and the other is a maximum strength ALA at 600mg. Started on it yesterday afternoon. I could not find any type of stabilized R ALA, but maybe I could order once I finish the supply I have.I am feeling very hopeful. I continue with the Zegerid for now, 20mg 2x a day and muscle cramping has ceased, with occasional headaches remaining. Prioris and Becca: Do you suggest then that I take 300mg of the ALA 4x a day to start then? I am basing this on your recent suggestion. I started yesterday with the 600mg straight off and like you said Becca, I had adverse stomach reactions which subsided over time but I was very happy with the level of burning. I would put it at a 1 yesterday. Yesterday was a very good day.
Becca: I have been on sub-lingual vitamin B-12 with folic acid for quite some time and my blood test results always show that I am running high on all vitamin B's. My doc stresses to keep up on this supplement. She also recently added vitamin D to my regime as I am running on the low end of the scale.
My vitamins and supplements were recently scaled back largely and at this time I am taking the following: Juice Plus, vitamin B-12 with folic acid (2 tablets under the tongue 2x a day), Vitamin D every other day, fish oil, Etodolac 400mg mostly in the mornings for maintenance of arthritis pain in neck (if it's bad in the evening as well), and Norco 5 for emergency tongue pain and/or neck pain. I do my best not to take this unless necessary as I realize what an awful drug this is. It does help tremendously when my tongue/mouth burning is bad. If the tongue burning goes over a pain level of 5 I will take one. Without fail it always brings the burning down to a 1-2.
Thanks so much to both of you. You are God's sends, without a doubt.
Kristine"
03/02/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I take my ALA twice a day....900 mg in the morning (3 x 300mg) and another 300 to 600 mg in the afternoon depending on how I feel. Vitamin D is crucial....at one time I was on a prescription of one a week at 100,000 I.u. Later, my doctor said I could just take OTC.....I take 1000 I.u. daily. I was taking several different supplements daily and ended up getting some imbalances. Now, I know this may sound weird, but I decided that I needed one balanced supplement that gave me everything I need and settled on a well known brand of pre natal vitamin with DHA. I take the above dose of ALA, vitamin D, and the pre natal. I feel better all over, energy is great, and the imbalances are re-balancing. I have layed off of the extra sublingual B for the moment...will let my body tell me when I need it. I am going to change to the stabilized ALA...found my brand on amazon...to see if I see any better results. when I have a burning flare up, I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water to alkalize quickly. This has always alleviated the burn quickly. I also rinse my mouth with soda water at night after brushing my teeth."
03/02/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "I would order the Stabilized version of Na R-ALA just based on the research. I realized you already spent money and bought something and want to use it up but I'd bite the bullet and order the stabilized form. You can test it side by side. You want to stop the BMS first and then you can maybe use up the ALA later while on maintenance.You have to take at least 1200 mg of ALA (and that may include side effects also) to even begin to hope to match the Stabilized Na R-ALA form but the stabilized version has much higher bioavailability. So it is probably between 5 to 40 times better than ALA so that makes purchasing ALA a waste of money. I can't verify at the moment whether it is 40 times.
Research has shown that unstabilized ALA absorbs better than unstabilized R-ALA so forget about unstabilized R-ALA.
Someone mentioned that sustained release form worked best. That is what helps maintain the levels in blood stream. That is probably the reason why they recommended taking it 4 times a day in NON-sustained release form. This is something to take into account when treating oneself to rid yourself of the painful symptoms.
They also had a dosage of 1200mg to 1800mg of ALA as effective. At least 600 mg of ALA was starting point for therapeutic effects. The stabilized form could cut that dose down to between 300 mg to 900 mg.
"Most ALA supplements sold today contain a 50/50 mixture of natural (R-Lipoic) and unnatural (S-Lipoic) Lipoic Acid. The S-Lipoic Acid form, which is not found in nature, is a byproduct of chemical synthesis.
Research indicates that not only does the human body have difficulty absorbing this unnatural version, it may actually inhibit the most essential properties of the R-Lipoic Acid form.
The “R” form is considered the biologically superior form because it is identical to the ALA produced by the body.
Unfortunately, without special processing, R-Lipoic Acid is highly unstable and difficult to absorb.
This problem has been solved with the introduction of Bio-Enhanced? R-Lipoic Acid, the world’s first stabilized RLA." Geronova is one of the companies doing research into this."
03/03/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you so much. Prioris, will do re: the Stabilized ALA. I feel so much better, it's amazing. Becca, I failed to mention that I have been brushing my teeth with baking soda only, dating back to June. I tried to switch back to regular toothpaste a few weeks ago but couldn't handle the increased burning. I've had 3 great days in a row (I would rank my burning pain at a 0-2 all day long) and have had no need for Norco. I am drinking only alkaline water, rather than regular bottled water since last week and will try your remedy next time the burning increases, but hoping there isn't a next time. I also added back in an occasional glass of red wine (not suppose to have alcohol on reflux diet) as I have to say I do love it, and it completely takes away the burning.So to sum it up for any other sufferers, I currently have been on the Zegerid for 8 days at 20mg 2X a day, started the anti-reflux diet and alkaline water at same time, and have added ALA at 1,200mg per day 2 days ago. I have to reiterate how the chemistry of my mouth has completely changed since starting the Zegerid and diet, amongst so many other Silent Reflux symptoms diminishing.
I remain very hopeful, positive and blessed to regain control and have my life back. I cannot give enough thanks to EarthClinic for hosting this site, Ashley for her original posting, and Prioris and Becca for staying with me and helping so very much. 2 years and 8 months now, 11 or more doctors later, and finally, some hope for relief of this horribly chronic burning pain.
Kristine"
03/10/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "to Kristine from Chicago....just wondering how you were doing. I am 4 days on the Stabilized R ALA and have seen even more improvement than on the regular ALA. Definitely worth the extra money. I still take 3 capsules in the morning...but its only 450mg instead of 900mg. So far, that has been enough for the whole day."
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My questions are: Is this the right one? How come people use this for healing?
If you find the time, I would appreciate your reply.
Thanks, kind regards, Sandra"
[YEA] 02/26/2014: Sandra from The Netherlands: "Hello, I am amazed with the contradictory info about Sodium Tetraborate B4Na2O7 10H2O, on the package is saying WARNING/DANGER/TOXIC.My questions are: Is this the right one? How come people use this for healing?
If you find the time, I would appreciate your reply.
Thanks, kind regards, Sandra"
02/26/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Sandra: I take 250mg borax/day."
02/26/2014: Louwrence from Rustenburg South Africa: "Hi Sandra, I have been using borax for years & I also use it to kill cockroaches. It is a very old remedy. So do not be afraid."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 08:06:36 -0600
I have studied holistic health for most of my life and this medicine and its effects have worried me over the last almost two years. I am in a situation now where I cannot afford to buy it any longer either.
My concern is that I don't know what to take to cure the problem because of my symptoms so if anyone here has similar please let me know. People here have great success with ACV and Baking Soda. I did use baking soda before the problem got so intense I had to have the gastroscopy.
By the way at this time two years ago I did a 12 day fast on just organic aloe vera juice from whole foods I was that desperate. After that I decided to have a some organic veggie juice thinking I could now drink it and OMG it didn't last a moment in my system. Definitely it did me no good at all.
I throw up even water, but some foods surprisingly I discovered by accident I can keep down. I.e. pasta with cheese sauce, which I hadn't eaten for thirty years not liking it prior, but it was served for dinner where I was visiting. This blew my mind when I realized I wouldn't be throwing it up. Hard boiled eggs with a bit of butter I can keep down too. Veggies I can't keep down either. The problem I have is that I can't get past a mouthful of ACV without it coming right back up. I also have a greens organic, and a non-GMO, non-dairy, non-Soy protein powder full of good healthy ingredients, which I used to blend with coconut milk, and now I can't drink that either since stopping the PPI. I can only now drink little sips of water otherwise it comes back. Teas all come back after a mouthful. Coffee is out of the question entirely.
There must be a way to cure this and heal it holistically. I refuse to believe I have to live with this Dexilant which I read increases the possibility of stomach cancer if taking it over a long period. I also have osteoporosis before taking Dexilant and it must be even worse now. I feel that I am in very critical condition.
Another thing that happens is that the moment I even go to take my medication for hypothyroid and reach for the glass of water that my upper abdomen immediately swells and hurts and I haven't even had a sip yet. I sleep practically sitting up and now I also have developed this cough that causes me to throw up. I bring up a very clear gel like substance, not a mucous that is thick and then up comes my water or anything I have taken.
I would appreciate hearing back about this. Thanks."
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: It's obvious that the acid factor of ACV irritates your Esophagus, so do drop that. I had the same problem w/ the thyroid meds. One of the noticeable symptoms of hypothyroid is reduced ability to swallow, which implies that the esophagus is directly effected by insufficient thyroid hormones.So, the only way to bring about a fix is to treat the esophagus and the thyroid simultaneously. Starting w/ the thyroid, take the magnet on your refrigerator and apply it to your thyroid glands for 10 min 2x day. Switch from levothyroxine to Armor Thyroid meds w/ any luck from your MD. supplement Lugols Iodine (much info here on E.C.). Take 500mg L-Tyrosine 1x day for two weeks and then up to 500mg 2x day. At this point you may need to split the thyroid med in half but you will need thyroid checked for sure. Vit-E is very good for protecting all the glands and thus improving their function. The best form of E is mixed Tocopherols & Tocotrienols. Coconut Oil is also very good for the T.
Now for the esophagus. Burst 5,000 iu Vit-A in mouth and let it slowly drain down the throat or take small spoon of Cod Liver Oil by mouth using the slow method. 15 minutes later suck an Elderberry/Zinc Lozenge. These two should both strengthen and soothe. DGL form of Licorice will also help soothe."
02/22/2014: Jos from Thailand: "Hi to Morganaspirit in Vancouver,Sorry to hear of your gastric problems, have you tried mixing food thickeners to your food and drinks? There is a product called Nestagel which works quite well and helps to keep food down and without irritation, I believe it's mainly used for children and elderly people but maybe worth experimenting with, also try to research other food thickners which maybe of benefit to you as they coat the lining of your osophegus, and help to stop the burning sensation. Weight loss may be a problem for you and when desperate try Bengers food, another "old fashioned" food for invalids and children with hiatal hernia problems. Keeping yourself raised up when sleeping is essential for your oesophageal probs and I really wish you well. I had a young baby with reflux and I learnt about thickening food to keep it down in her stomach, I appreciate you are not an invalid but thought some of these ideas may help you."
02/22/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Morganaspirit: I am not sure I can assist you but I can try. I am not sure why but I like to study the food plants, animals, and well people eat. After reading your sad story of so much suffering I am surprised you are alive. The reason I say this is because the cells require proper nourishment. When they don't get enough they eat the tissues. I believe this to be the root cause. I was very sick. The way I got well was to experiment. This is hard for a sick person to do so maybe getting a loved one to assist would be a good idea. Vegetables want to be fertilizer for the seeds so they make some of their nutrients hard to digest to discourage herbivores from eating them. Fruits want to be eaten for herbivores to propagate the seeds. Their nutrients are easily digested. The most easily digestible fruit is banana. Whole Foods has whole trade bananas. These are organically grown but lack the costly certification. They are also the least costly. You can try raw wildflower honey. Avocados are also easy to digest. Because you were able to eat cheese, eggs, and butter, you can try raw vital pastured eggs, raw grass fed hamburger, colostrum, and raw cheese. You can try black chia seeds. They are less costly online. Brown Cow plain yogurt might be beneficial. In my opinion you are going to have to find some raw organic and grass fed whole foods that you can eat so you can recover."
02/23/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morganspirit, sounds like you have to have well-cooked, easily digestible foods for right now. Look into Traditional Chinese Medicine for your situation."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you Timh from Ky, and Somewhere, Europe, jos from Thailand, and Mike 62 from Denver. I appreciate all of your input. I do love avocadoes Mike, bananas I am very allergic to unfortunately cause I love them.Jos, food thickeners sound like a very good idea because they coat the lining of the esophagus. I have never heard of them so will research as soon as I get off this site.
Timh, I do take desiccated thyroid. Learned that one a few years ago! But you are right that the thyroid seems to be mixed up with everything. I never thought of using a magnet on my thyroid but what a great idea. I need a lot of thyroid every day so it would be amazing to split it in half. I will certainly try the Vit-A. Does it taste fishy though? Thinking of Cod liver oil you mentioned. Aside from the esophagus problems I have a very difficult time with smells, especially fishy smell. I can't even walk into a fish store without throwing up. I take coconut oil and use it for cooking. Perhaps that would work as well as Vit-A?
I am going to try these ideas you all gave me today, and Somewhere, Europe you suggested TCM. I went to a naturopath who taught at the TCM college here and he was useless. His big plan was for me buy his protein powder and take that daily as well as pay him $150/hr for his consult. He gave me a sample and it upchucked within five minutes so I am a bit distrustful of TCM if that is the recommendation. I like the ones I got here today and will use them all. Thank you."
02/23/2014: Gtcharlie from Los Angeles, Ca: "Hi Morganaspirit,I want to chip in a few points here that is away from the main drag; not with the intention to negate what others say, but to add a different approach that is more in line with the Eastern philosophy.
1. Avoid all cold drinks or foods, including raw foods taken cold, even water from the refrigerator! Because you don't want to excite your stomach needlessly. And you don't want to lower your body's core temperature suddenly either. So, please stick to foods/drinks that are a bit above lukewarm, but way lower than to burn your mouth.
2. Use ginger as often as you can, but not as much as you can. Large amount of ginger can upset your stomach, in moderation, it can curb regurgitation effectively. Ginger can also warm your stomach up which will reduce the excessive stomach acid. GERD can be from insufficient stomach acid in some cases especially with the elderlies. But judging from what you say about the ACV, it is not your case.
The best way is to take a ginger tea with honey daily - thinly cut fresh ginger 15-20 slices with skin on, add in 8 oz of water and bring it to boil. Remove from the stove and stir in one t-spoon honey. Press the ginger slices a bit while mixing the honey in with the spoon. Save half of this concoction in a thermal for later use. Sip this tea slowly as hot as you can take. Inhale the steam through your nostrils while waiting for the tea to cool down a bit. By doing so, you can warm up your upper chest. Reheat the rest from the thermal a few hours later to finish it. Less in amount and more in frequency is the key to avoid burdening your stomach. If you can take in the whole 8 oz once, then brew a second cup later.
Always add some fresh ginger in your cooking. Ginger candy is a good choice for snacking.
If you like cinnamon, you can use it to replace ginger at times or supplementing the ginger tea with it. But be sure to buy the cinnamon from Indonesia or Srilanka since it is for medicinal purpose. You will find them at Amazon.
3. Take liquid foods for easy digestion; thick soap like beef and barley is a good choice. Avoid foods that cause bloating and gas. Chew slowly and longer when eating solid foods to let the saliva to breakdown carbohydrates. Proper nutrition plays a big part in one's health!
4. Rub your stomach often: use both hands to rub your stomach (right under the sternum) with a little pressure. Move in a circular motion and reverse the direction alternatively. Give it a few pumps if you can in between. Do it before meals and relax your stomach muscle by practicing deep breathing at times. You need to strengthen your diaphram.
If these help and when situation is stabilized, you can start making fresh potato juice in the morning and drink it with an empty stomach - at least half an hour prior to breakfast. Add an apple if you like. But be sure to leave both the potato and apple out of the refrigerator to prevent taking in cold liquid in the morning!
Potato juicing is good to curb cancer cells, and for any ulcer too! A very popular remedy in Asia popularized by a welknown Japanese monk.
All the best to you!"
02/24/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: Yes, the Cod Liver Oil or Vit-A smells like fish, so you will need to fallow it directly w/ Elder/Zinc Lozenge. The Iodine/L-Tyrosine will likely be necessary in improving your T hormone status for the short-term until you do the Magnet, Vit-A, and Zinc begin protecting and healing the Thyroid. All this has worked for me as my last test showed normal without having previously taken levothyroxine for many weeks.Do report your results for others."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morganaspirit,Really, my heart goes out to you...you have suffered so much.
I love what the EC writers have posted and have two observations:
First, to add to the previous suggestions on what you might be able to eat, have you tried papaya? The raw fruit, not the capsules but the fruit itself?
Papaya is an amazing fruit packed with enzymatic power... soothing to the lining of irritated throat and stomach...it is wonderfully anti nausea. What ever is causing the problem, you certainly are deficient in enzymes and a good starting point is papaya. Start with the real fruit as I said and after eliminating the tiny black seeds (a good source of anti parasites) just take a tiny bit on spoon and eat. If no negative reaction, try a quarter teaspoon and so forth until you can eat a quarter cup at a time. If you can tolerate that much, the Papaya will start its wonder working impact on your system.
Second, I'd love to more find out the CAUSE of what you are experiencing. I understand the Barretts Syndrome diagnosis, but I mean before that. Here is my point; We are dealing with (largely) what you can eat now. That is vital because clearly there is a sense of urgency here...and that is why I threw in my suggestion of papaya. But all these suggestions, by and large, speak to the symptoms and do not address the cause.
I guessed one possible cause as an enzyme deficiency issue but that might more fit the symptom category.
Would you please give us some more information on the history of what led to this problem. I'm always wondering at causation and try to get to the bottom line cause for the symptoms. Often I find an infection that preceded symptoms, for instance.
So...could you give a brief history... like this; when did you first begin experiencing difficulties...from youth? From birth? Do you suspect genetic? As I said, I've often found a viral/ fungal ... pathogenic trigger, and hence "basis" for the symptoms.
Here's a typical story line...maybe it fits and maybe not: Victim X suffers from nausea for past five years. X first experienced illness four months after visiting Caribbean islands. Doctors cannot find cause. Possible answer; Parasites.
Or: Victim Y suffers from endocrine system issues with manifold symptoms. Six months prior to symptoms, suffered from severe case of strep. Possible cause; virus.
So, anything you can tell us as to cause...more of the history can help with underlying cause solution."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you GT Charlie. I discovered this thing about not having cold water this week and on the weekend when it finally hit me that my overnight lukewarm water had not bothered me at all to drink it. Usually I have it ice cold from the frig and so you are right on there. I will slice up my ginger and try that again. I use to make fresh ginger tea. I used to also keep fresh slices in my water jug to sip on as well and I see it is time to do this again. Cinammon too I love so will make sure it comes from Indonesia or Sri Lanka. Thanks so much for your input.Unfortunately I used the PPI Dexilant to get through the past two years and it is only when I realized it was also not working as well, that is when I knew I had to tackle this problem now. My problem is that I work 12 hr days and alot of that time is sitting at my desk and that is a problem too with that pressure. I spose I can heat up the ginger tea in the microwave at work although I hate to use it. Thanks again."
02/24/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Hee, hee, Morganspirit, I learn the Chinese stuff that I want, off the Internet and from books. I take the info that seems right to me and experiment with that. Why pay? Having said that, I did go to a practitioner to get the Chinese "diagnosis name" of my condition (according to them. I always take it all with a grain or two of Celtic Salt :))."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Canada: "Timh from Ky, I cannot tolerate even the smell of fish oil. I would be heaving before getting the capsule close to my throat but I was thinking that perhaps coconut oil might be a good substitute. Thanks. By the way I have a very sensitive stomach. Even happening upon a dead fly makes me vomit.To Dave:
Dave thanks for your reply. I do love papaya, but so many fruits made me throw up in the past three and half years that I gave up on them. I will try your suggestion with just a tiny amount at a time. I do know it has powerful enzymes and if it stays down, it would be wonderful to eat it as much as I can keep down.
As to the beginning of this problem, acid reflux began about five years ago at age 59, but it wasn't until the end of 2010 that it began to be uncomfortable.Up to the acid reflux beginning the only time I had stomach problems was my horrid reaction to smelly things or revolting looking things and then anything I had in my gut came up. I was one of those women during pregnancy who vomited the whole nine months.
Actually interesting you bring up possible parasites as a source cause I used to wonder about that. The day it began I had bought myself a frozen lasagne to have for a quick meal after work. I had just begun my present job the month before, twelve hour days and was too exhausted to stand at the counter and cook after a long day beginning at 4am.
This is the first time in my life I bought one of those dinners, since my preference is more holistic and fresh food, but I did and that night I did have a violent reaction like a stomach flu which continued for several days and then I caught a bad cold which turned into a bad chest infection. The chest infections have been recurring over the years since childhood when hay fever first hit. It always changed to chest infections which lasted for weeks and weeks and that could be asthma I found out recently.
Since I never got stomach flu's ever, it has only now occurred to me that it might not have been the lasagne at all and that it could have been a bad flu beginning with stomach and turning into the chest infection.
Back to the problem. I was coughing very much, pulling tummy muscles when the problem began late 2010, and this continued for weeks. After that finally ended the real problem began in my stomach and upper abdomen. Those weeks of horrid gut wrenching coughing must have caused the hiatal hernia. It just got worse and worse and my doctor sent me on the rounds to have ultrasounds on every organ and nothing showed up and finally after a year of this and being in exactly the state where I am now, I insisted on seeing a gastroenterologist and then had that diagnosis after a gastroscopy and biopsy, and told I had to take Dexilant for life.
It was such a relief to have a solution that I happily took those pills and then when I found out just how dire it is to the system it began to make me very uneasy and to want to find another way. I really didn't think there was another way until finding this forum...so then I have hope.
Another thing that happens when I have anything at all, even lukewarm water my tummy area around my belly button as a centre swells and hurts immediately and as I said it can begin before I even have the liquid or food.
I remembered giving my dog Slippery Elm when he had digestive issues and am thinking that perhaps that might be a good thing to drink prior to eating anything or drinking anything even water. Funny how I never thought of that before.
By the way, my job hours are very stressful for me and I have been doing it almost four years and that may have alot to do with it too. Next year I will be 65 and can retire so maybe that will make a difference if I can get through this without it all turning to esophageal cancer.
Thanks for your input and for any further suggestions."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello again Morgana (spirit) from Canada,So excited to get your follow up post!
The "history" of your disease ... and yours is indeed a disease is now much better understood by your last post.
You gave a great lay out of the key events and here's what I think given the evidence concerning the issue of causation and what is underlying the symptoms.
As you said, the day it all started (building on some reflux already present but not the main issue)... was the uncooked lasagna. I gather it was either under cooked or just let get to room temp from frozen condition. Couldn't tell which, but got for sure that it was not cooked.
Whatever... the problem was in the Lasagna. What was in it? Do you recall? And I doubt if you'd remember but do you recall if it was an imported variety. THAT would really give us a good slap on the huntin' dog's back if we knew it was a Mediterranean import. (Lots of Montezuma's revenge...yes, the Mediterranean... not just Mexico.) Amoeba, e coli, etc etc. are possible. Look up Amoebic dysentery on Wikipedia. The one of some interest is the "trophozoite" which is an amoeba that is non cyst forming. That amoeba produces symptoms without hurting liver. You need the BEST parasitologist to exclude the possibility that you do NOT have such infection.
Montezuma's revenge can be either viral or bacterial.
And let's just talk "mundane" infections caused by a good ol' American virus, fungus or bacteria.
You got the infection .... whatever it is from the lasagna. "The day it started..." that was the uncooked lasagna day.
What to do? Well, if me, I've already said I'd get a parasitologist to eliminate the possibility of parasites... and next...if not parasites, go to the old standbys to kill infections....Colloidal Silver (I now do a little dance at the mention of CS ... no doubt the Cherokee blood that runs through me).
I'd take a lot...I would be drinking at least six teaspoons of CS daily on empty stomach (which is what you usually have). I wrote a little article that the EC staff was nice enough to post under "Colloidal Silver" ...the Remedies section. I think mine's the second one.
So my contention is that CS will kill the underlying infection, if the experts say the problem is not a parasite. There are "natural" parasite killers covered in Earth Clinic, but after reading the autobiography "MD" which is about a parasitologist, I think I'd first get a determination of whether the cause just might be parasitic.
But do look at the Wiki article on Amoebic dysentery I mentioned and see if the symptoms discussed with the two types of amoeba relate to your problem. If not.... turn to virus killers....eg.....CS."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morgana,A paragraph I failed to put into the long post just below this one....yes a bad infection as you mentioned from childhood could be the cause... Still....either would indicate an infection as the cause. And that's what we're looking for ... the cause."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "hi Dave,The thing is I had a frozen lasagna probably McCains or something like that and of course I heated it in the oven for the requisite time.
Good idea on CS. Have some in my fridge. Thanks for your input. Morgana"
02/25/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "An update. Just wanted to tell you who contributed to my question that I am able to hold down avocado and papaya, so today for work I made myself a little salad with those, but I also added raw zucchini which I knew would be okay and I use the spiralizer to make it look like spaghetti. I also added raw apple and voila I have kept it all down and no heartburn.It is a beginning and beats having to survive on fettucine, which is not something I like but when it was the only thing to stay down for a meal, what the heck.
Morgana"
02/26/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morgana, thanks for coming back to report. We're delighted at the good news, it's a very good start!"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Many things can bring on a hiatal hernia...most common is while sitting- bending at the waist, as if to tie shoes. This will force the stomach into the diaphram. When the irritation begins things to avoid, temporally, (for 7 to 10 days) would be tomato sauce, spicy foods, COFFEE, too much ruffage as raw veggies, rice, and alcohol.What to eat would be stewed veggies, pasta-no tomato sauce. Cream sauce and the like is OK. Mainly soft foods. They do not have to be bland just not spicy. This will also cut down on acid reflux. And indigestion.
If this becomes chronic, a visit to a chiropractor that practices kenisiology Is in order. I do not know if ACV helps with this as I have not had to try it as yet."
Help Requested for Bad Breath
Wed, 26 Feb 14 08:04:45 -0600
EC: Hi Anju, Check our bad breath page for popular remedies to cure bad breath:www.earthclinic.com/CURES/breath.html
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[YEA] 09/10/2010: Hazelnut from Phoenix, Az, Usa: "I absolutely agree that castor oil is great for Beautiful skin... I started using castor oil on my face every night after bath 1 week ago and today only 7 days later my face somehow looks at least 5 years younger and flawless and more toned... I am thankful for Earth Clinic or I never would have tried castor oil on my face.... From Hazelnut"
[YEA] 09/12/2010: Tina from Princeton, New Jersey: "I agree that castor oil is an amazing face oil. I have been using it as a night-time treatment for nearly two months now. I use a tiny amount which I thin down with a few drops of almond oil which makes it easier to pat onto the skin, since castor oil has a thick consistency. I have also noticed that my eyelashes are growing longer!"
10/05/2010: Christelle from Windhoek, Namibia: "Will this caster oil not give you blackheads?"
[YEA] 06/11/2011: Len from Seattle, Wa: "No--the castor oil will not clog your pores. In fact, it has made my pores clearer and smaller. I was very leery about using an oil on my face (I thought I'd break out terribly) but after the first application, I realized that it helped get rid of any blemishes or inflammations not caused them. And I have less clogged pores."
02/26/2014: Paula2613 from Azusa,ca: "What name brand are you ladies using? I have melasma on my forehead n cheeks n would like to start this castor oil treatment. Thank you, Paula"
02/26/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Paula,I have used Heritage Store and Home Health castor oil. Both are cold pressed. I have been happy with them. Now sells one that is expeller pressed. A little goes a long way! Hope you find it helpful. I love castor oil and have used it for many things.
~Mama to Many~"
02/27/2014: Mary from Saskatchewan, Canada: "To Mama To Many: Hi, does the castor oil make you break out? Do you mix it with anything? Thanks"
02/28/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Mary,I have not had trouble with castor oil causing any type of skin outbreak on me or my family members. We have used it on faces, necks, backs, feet, etc, with no problem. When I use it on my face, sometimes I put a few drops of Rosemary Essential Oil into it (a few drops in an ounce of Castor Oil.) But lately I have just used it plain. (At first I had added the Rosemary because I didn't care for the smell of castor oil, but I guess now I am used to it.) Sometimes I mix castor oil into homemade salves or oil blends for various purposes...I have mixed it with olive oil, coconut oil, and/or almond oil. I have always been happy with castor oil however I have used it.
I hope it will work well for what you need, as well.
~Mama to Many~"
Dietary Changes Cured Infant Colic
Wed, 26 Feb 14 08:03:20 -0600
So here's what I avoided: all citrus for starters, all dairy not even a little cheese or yogurt, all soy, all shellfish, peanuts, beans, absolutely no broccoli or cauliflower (learned this the hard way), all caffiene esp coffee and chocolate, all wheat and all corn. It was hard to remember at firstbut I carried a list on my phone and before each meal I would go back to the list and start checking stuff out. My baby was the calmest when I avoided everything then swaddled her at night hint: get the swaddle blanket. For those that think its hard consider your baby!!! Sacrifice just 3 to 4 months of this. By the 4th month they'll start getting better and you can start eating!!! Finally for those who choose formula, try the expensive one from enfa___. It's designed for allergy sufferees. That's the one that worked best when I had no time to feed which was rare. I really hope all mothers out there consider this advice and never let another baby suffer again!!!"
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09/11/2011: Michael from Providence, Ri: "Ok, it's been a week now and I've had ups and downs thx to reading this page. My butt was so itchy I woke up crying and drove myself to the 24 hour pharmacy. Mind you I'm a 42 year old man, this condition has been so frustrating, embarassing, and has taken over my life.I tried tea tree oil. A little relief.
I tried Apple Cider Vinegar. OUCH! Made my sensitive area worse.
I tried Zinc Oxide, major change, but now I want the cure.
Witch Hazel is wonderful, but I think we are gonna see a doctor tomorrow. I've narrowed the iritation down to only when I have to poop. What does that mean people?"
09/11/2011: Kelly from Cambridge, Ma: "You haven't been taking probiotics by any chance, have you? I'm asking because I had that problem when I started them and when I went off of them.The best remedy ever is to take a warm sitz bath after bowel movements. Adding a little Witch Hazel to the water - even better. It's soothing, healing and I'll bet you even find it 'curing'. Good luck. I feel for you. It's no fun."
09/11/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand: "Its definiatly fungal.. If you do nothing it will clear up in a few years. The firsts thing I would try would be Virgin coconut oil internaly and externaly. Start off with three teaspoons a day and smear the oil into the anal cavity and around the buttocks. If this dosnt work (Im sure it will) then try another antifungal. Wash hands thoroughly to avoid reinfrction."
09/11/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia : "Michael it sounds like you have parasites. Garlic is excellent for parasites."
09/12/2011: Sahara from Somewhere, France: "Hi Michael! This problem will stop if you eat a pinch of paprika in your meals.By the way I m still looking for a natural solution to clear out a marisca. It's a peace of skin hanging outside anus. I had this after giving birth. Thank you for your help. Sahara"
[NAY] 09/12/2011: Cc from Slc , Utah : "Back in 2008 I had a bad itch not only on my Butt but also on my anus, upper thighs between the legs, both tesicles and the tip of the penis. From what I now believe it was most likely a male yeast infection or some type of severe jock itch. Even though I used tea tree oil and aloe it came back with a vengeance. I then found using 91% Isoproply Alcohol on cotton rounds or on cotton pads applied to the areas that itched took care of ALL of the itch problems. It will burn like Heck and you will question if this should be happening but it is killing either the yeast, fungus or fungi. How if I could just get rid of the white tonuge... But no more burning down below and that was a couple of years ago. It was driving me crazy... G/l"
[YEA] 02/26/2014: Mr Stuwi from Cornwall, Uk: "Once you've ruled out thread worms you have probably got Ani puritus, which is really common in adults. Unfortunately there isn't a definite cure, you will remain susceptible to problems, unless you manage your diet, health and hygiene. Rubbing too hard with toilet paper or not cleaning properly are both culprits. There's now help on the market that lubricates and aids cleansing. Hope you get happy relief."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 08:00:55 -0600
I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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The state of dentistry on this planet is horrible. Saving teeth just isn't on the agenda. When you go to a dentist, they can put you between the hard ground and a rock."
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "It is wise to keep all body parts as much as possible. Swishing Colloidal Silver in the mouth will proly be your best first try for this infection. If this doesn't work, try swishing MMS (Miracle Mineral solution) as directed. Check Genesis II Church Of Health & Healing dot com for specifics."
02/25/2014: Debbie from Lodi, Ca: "Hi there, just curious if you are taking Fosamax or the generic drug for prevention of osteroporosis? A side effect of the drug is a condition called osteonecrosis of the jaw also known as jaw death. Both my mother and mother in law recently had teeth pulled due to this drug. Last spring my mothers femur broke due to this pill that was supposed to make her bones stronger! Needless to say neither women are taking this dangerous drug any longer.Good luck to you! Sincerely, Debbie"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "One possible option is ozone therapy ... "Infusion of medical oxygen/ozone into infected jaw bone (cavitation)." Finding a dentist and traveling to where they may present some obstacles. I would also investigate using dmso with something else like h202 to kill infection.The state of dentistry on this planet is horrible. Saving teeth just isn't on the agenda. When you go to a dentist, they can put you between the hard ground and a rock."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 07:56:41 -0600
07/23/2013: Bob from New Orleans, La. Usa: "To Raquel in New Orleans... I use h2o2 for bronchitis."
02/25/2014: Elly C from Edmonton, Alberta: "Jj in California, it takes a heck of a lot longer than 1 week before you have grey skin. It would take years and years in fact and you would have to drink a lot more than a few drops. I have been drinking it for many years and I'm still pink. Research a wee bit more is my suggestion."
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Anyway, after about a week or two of these "episodes", my neck began to ache (all over, front and back) and my throat started to burn. It was awful. Gradually, I began feeling strange sensations in my tongue, which soon changed to a burning feeling- around the sides, at the tip, and even on the top. It was bizarre and terrifying to have such unusual symptoms. Eventually, my tongue even felt very sore, so sore that I talked a little funny at times (b/c I was "babying" my tongue, I think).
While experiencing all of this, between early-March and early-June 2012, I saw my PCP 3x, an ENT, a GI (APRN), and a neck/back specialist. (I also went to the ER once where I was seen, diagnosed with a sore throat, and sent home.) I felt terrible and was so desperate for some relief! (By the way, blood work and neck x-rays were negative.) A few docs, including the ER MD, felt I had a virus (for which I was first given Ibuprofen/Tylenol and later antibiotic treatments), then a few other docs suspected acid reflux. I couldn't believe that acid reflux could cause me to feel so terrible especially since I was unaware of any symptoms! Although I wanted to dismiss reflux as a possible cause, I was feeling desperate, so I tried whatever was recommended, including Maalox (2 tbsp) at bedtime (recommended by 1 ENT), then prescription medication (for reflux) in the A. M. (such as Aciphex), always 1/2 hour before breakfast (recommended by the GI APRN). With time, I felt a little improvement, but not much. So I continued to doubt the whole reflux theory; I spent so much time in fear that I had a serious illness. Why else would I feel so awful with such unusual symptoms?
Finally, my PCP sent me to a second ENT in early/mid June, about three weeks ago (for a second ENT opinion). He listened, answered all of my questions, and majorly eased my fears. While he suggested Burning Mouth Syndrome as a possibility (maybe caused by anxiety/depression, a hormonal imbalance or neuropathy), he too, felt that acid reflux might be the culprit and needed to be ruled out first. (Note: He didn't see signs and symptoms of a vitamin deficiency or thrush or lichen planus, which can cause burning mouth). He just asked me to be patient and follow his recommendations...
He seemed to be really knowledgeable; For one thing, I was impressed as he was the only doctor I saw who knew a considerable amount about BMS! (He said he had seen about 30 cases in 15 years, almost all women.) Anyway, he disagreed with the other ENT I had seen and the GI I had seen re: their treatment recommendations for possible reflux, at least in my case. He said that I had "silent reflux", which explained why I was unaware of any symptoms. He said that Maalox at bedtime wasn't enough, and taking medication in the a.m. (I. E. Aciphex) wasn't doing me any good as I was experiencing "silent reflux" at NIGHT. He recommended Zegrid (over the counter, 20 mg) for 4 weeks; he wanted me to take it in the evening rather than the a.m. Again, I was doubtful, wondering if, again, I was just wasting my time and money. (This has gotten quite expensive as I'm sure you can imagine! ) Anyway, it's been almost 3 weeks and I'm feeling MUCH, MUCH better! Seriously, I went from being on the verge of tears (almost nightly) due to tongue discomfort, and gargling with Maalox (and other remedies) multiple times a day to rarely thinking about my tongue (d/t a lack of discomfort) and no gargling (with one exception, which I'll mention in a minute). My pain, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the worst) went from about an average of 8 to an average of 1 or 2! :) The choking feeling stopped first, then the burning in my throat went away; gradually, the aches and pains in my neck ceased, and finally my tongue burning and soreness subsided! But it did take time (3 weeks and counting) and patience like the doc said.
In short, I felt I just had to write and post on "Earth Clinic" b/c I had visited this website many times while trying to find relief for my burning/painful tongue. Others provided me with some helpful suggestions (and support), so I figured now it's my turn to (hopefully) help others.
In conclusion, here are my thoughts having been through this burning tongue/bottom lip/throat nightmare myself: First of all, while very uncomfortable, don't panic and don't think the worst (like I did). Be persistent (with your doctor), experiment with various remedies (from sucking on ice to gargling with Maalox), and, most importantly, be patient and positive (if at all possible)... Remember, it took 3 months for me to find a doctor with the right "remedy" and then weeks of using the this remedy (20 mg Zegerid OTC in the evening x 28 days) for me to feel ALMOST total relief. Seriously, I never thought I'd see this day (a couple of months back)!
Please note, I started taking folic acid and Vit. B Stress pills (in the A. M.) at about the same time I started taking Zegerid. I also started brushing my teeth (and gargling) with Biotene 2x/day awhile back. I figured I had nothing to lose. While I don't think I have (or ever had) a vitamin deficiency, I started taking vitamins b/c it was suggested by others with BMS symptoms. The ENT said my tongue would be bright red and shiny, which it wasn't, if I was suffering from a vitamin deficency. Just thought I should mention this anyway...
Good Luck to anyone suffering from a burning mouth/tongue. I know it's terrible, but I really think you can find some relief if you're able to get to the root of the problem. It may take awhile and, unfortunately, quite a bit of money, but it can be done, so please don't lose hope! Strive to meet with a doctor familiar with the various causes of BMS as this should save you a lot of time and unnecessary (and costly) doctor visits.
All My Best, Ashley"
11/22/2013: Kay from Bala Cynwyd, Pa: "To Judy from Australia- did you BMS stop? Your story sounds like mine."
02/21/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I am 46 years old and have had burning tongue/mouth syndrome for 2 years and 7 months and yes, have spent literally thousands of dollars on doctor/dentist/specialists, lab work, more lab work, etc and am currently on Dr. #11. My chiropractor/nutritionist is helping the most. My story is similar in that the burning mouth and neck pain started together. Sometimes things seem to help and then the burning comes back and progressively gets worse. I have tried every remedy out there and then some. I have cleaned my body of yeast, have lost 15 pounds on an already very slim frame, avoid sugars (except red wine in evening. It numbs my mouth and is my only source of relief), breads, found I am very allergic to all dairy and eggs and have slight to moderate allergies of many foods. I eat extremely healthy and am scared of literally everything I consume. I am perimenopausal and the burning tongue/mouth and neck pain started in the midst of my mother's decline in her long battle with COPD. Some doctors thought it was stress related and the burning would subside after she passed. She died 15 months ago and it has not left. I have not had a single day without burning in my mouth in 2 years and 7 months. I am going to try the Zegrid starting tonight. My chiropractor ran tests that show I am significantly lacking in progesterone and when I started the natural oil 2 weeks ago, it made a tremendous improvement in the burning sensation. 2 weeks on progesterone, then 2 weeks off. I just started the 2 weeks off, 2 days ago, and they burning returned with a vengeance. This is a horrible affliction. I can sympathize with those that end their lives over this. This is all consuming and prior to this affliction, I rarely visited doctors. There is so much more I could write but I will stop for now and check back in once I have gone through a few rounds of progesterone and a month of Zegrid. Wish me luck please. And luck to everyone out there who suffers from this devastating affliction. Thank you for sharing Ashley.Kristine"
02/21/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Have you tried supplementing with magnesium? Most of us are low on it and stress will cause you to burn through it. A quick google showed a study that found a connection between burning mouth and magnesium deficiency."
02/21/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Hi Kristine.Burning mouth seems to be a form of neuropathy. Burning is a common sensation of neuropathy, Maybe the myelin of the nerves is being destroyed. Have you tried the methylcobalamin, benfotiamine and R alpha lipoic acid remedies.
"In one study, researchers followed 42 women and 18 men with burning mouth syndrome. The patients were given either 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid or placebos three times daily for two months. Nearly all of the patients on alpha lipoic acid showed improvement compared to placebo, and 75 percent benefited substantially, with some experiencing complete recovery."
You mentioned that your mother who passed away had COPD. I am just curious what remedies she had tried."
02/22/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you both for your feedback. Yes, I have tried magnesium injections to no benefit. I have yet to try ALA but it did read very much about it on this site. My intention was to try the Zegerid at bedtime as Ashley had mentioned, give it a month, and if it did not help, switch to ALA. Or should I try the ALA first?Thinking it was a neuropathy, we tried gabapentin for several months increasing the dosage to 2600 mg but the side effects were worsening and my BTS/BMS did not improve, although it did in the beginning.
My mother did not have BTS, just COPD. She lived much longer than any doctor predicted and they were actually amazed b/c she lived for more than 2 years after she fell and broke her hip. At the time of her fall her lung capacity was 12.5%. She was on oxygen for 9 years prior to her death.
Thank you very much for any and all advice.
Kristine"
02/22/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Zegrid has serious side effects: easy bruising or bleeding, unusual weakness; fast or slow heartbeats; or low magnesium (dizziness, confusion, fast or uneven heart rate, jerking muscle movements, jittery feeling, muscle cramps, muscle weakness or limp feeling, cough or choking feeling, seizure) ... This isn't a drug you want to be on for the long term. Even if you do get some relief with it, I'd keep searching for something more natural.I'd make sure you use Right ALA. I'd go with right ALA first since your system may be more clean of medications."
02/23/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "To Kristine in Chicago.....try 1500 to 1800 mg of sustained release alpha lipoic acid along with a good b12 supplement....the ALA literally saved my life. It's not completely gone because I think part of mine is related to my thyroid, but I am living again. There are many medical studies related to ALA at that dosage and BMS. Good luck!"
02/24/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris from FL and Becca from Abilene: Thank you both so very much for your input. I started on the Zegerid 2 nights ago and changed my diet/lifestyle (once again) in the hopes of some relief. I have noticed a big difference in the chemistry of my mouth in the am, but the burning, albeit less, still persists (and I know this is not an over night solution). Given all of the information I am seeing posted re: ALA, I believe I can take this with the Zegerid. Is this correct? I want to give the Zegerid time to help with the reflux because after all of the research I have done on silent reflux (LBR), and my lifestyle and diet, I believe this could be the culprit. I have every symptom of LBR except heartburn, and I realize most people who suffer from LBR do not present with heartburn. So now I have changed my diet and eating habits (I was always a late dinner eater), switched to alkaline water, am taking the Zegerid and would like to add ALA but have seen varying posts about the dosage. I am 5'6 and 107 pounds currently. Also, the burning really returned with a vengeance after I stopped the progesterone oil at bedtime (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off). After researching the internet and talking with my chiropractor/nutritionist, I found that progesterone neutralizes acid in the esophagus and stomach. And is a natural stress reliever. Stress causes more acid reflux. Ugh! I am obsessed and all consumed with this condition. I cannot believe I still have it after this long. I feel as if I cannot move forward in life or honestly enjoy life to the fullest until I get this constant burning pain under control.Again, I really appreciate your input. I want to start on the ALA but need to be sure I am taking the correct dosage. And then again, I am concerned that starting on too many things (Zegerid, ALA and natural progesterone...which my doc says is very much needed as I am completely depleted of this hormone) will cause confusion as to which is beneficial for this condition, although all may be.
Thanks again!
Kristine"
02/24/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Kristine: 4oz canned sweet potatoes every other day makes progesterone. 1g hops extract prevents them from being aromatized."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I think the progesterone being a hormone would be the highest priority especially if you are depleted. Being depleted of any hormone could set off a chain reaction of problems in your body.I would stop taking the Zegerid and take the R-ALA. The other poster mentioned taking 1500-1800 grams and that being affective for her. I would consider that dosage since it was effective for her. They say that 300 grams is therapeutic dose. Start at 300 and work your way up. Maybe you won't need as high a dose. Even studies have used up to 1200mg for 3 weeks or so.
Experiment with Zegerid later. I'd be concerned about how the Zegerid interacts with the other two the most. I know you started it so may be pain to stop it but that is just my 2 cents worth."
02/25/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "I too am not a fan of the Zegarid....could actually compound the problem. You might try Mastic Gum..one capsule morning and evening....medically proven to heal stomach issues....took myself and worked great. As far as the dosage of ALA...most of the clinical trials said that some relief started at 600 mg....most got significant relief at 1200 to 1800 mg per day with no negative side effects noted and was studied for two years. I agree...start low and increase slow. My endo gave me progesterone capsules to take everyday...I take sporadically. Never heard of low progesterone being linked to BMS....but hormones do crazy things to the body so you never know. Hang in there...no one that has never experienced it can begin to understand what it does to the body and mind."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Just for clarification. Are those doses of ALA the ALA or the R-ALA?"
02/26/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris, Becca, and Mike62: Thank you so very much for all of your input and help you have shared. I really appreciate it. But I have to admit that I have stayed on the Zegerid at bedtime and the changes have been amazing. I have also committed to the diet and lifestyle of acid reflux sufferers, buying the book "Dropping Acid, The Reflux Diet Cookbook and Cure". I have nearly every symptom of this problem and medicine, namely Zegerid (1 of approx 5 listed) is needed to help alleviate the symptoms of Silent Reflux or LBR). LBR is different than GERD, that is why I was unaware of my condition. The changes since taking the Zegerid and changing my diet and eating habits is tremendous!!Additionally, progesterone is a natural stress reliever and acid reducer (namely in the stomach and esophagus). I found this through my own research and discussions with my chiropractor/nutritionist/hormone therapy doctor. At the onset of this illness I was in the throws of my mother (whom I shared an extremely close and loving relationship with) entering the downward spiral of COPD, and I was in periomenopause (where your hormones are on the decline), and also a single mother preparing to send my only daughter off to college...not to mention I decided to quit my job of 20 years and start up my own business. What a perfect storm of stress and hormone depletion!!
Needless to say....I am excited and thrilled to no end right now. As I type this I have zero burning in my mouth. Yesterday I experienced maybe 2 hours of slight burning (range of about 3 on pain level). My pain level prior to the Zegerid was running a 7-8, bringing me to tears and monopolizing my entire life daily. As Becca mentioned, no one knows what this can do to your mind and body.
Thank you all so very much again and I will continue to keep you posted. If I have indeed found my remedy, after nearly 2 years and 8 months, I certainly want to help others.
Kristine"
02/26/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I'll add one more thing you can do.Zegerid side effects may not be good for you long term. It may just mask the symptom and then boomerang on you later on. Research anectdotal reports of long term use of Zegerid and see what it is doing to other people so you can nip any problem in the bud.
I'd experiment with Stabilized Na R-ALA after you've had a good vacation from pain. If it works, it will be more healthier for your body over the long term. Good Luck."
02/27/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thanks Prioris. I will check back in to confirm how I am doing. I intend on adding the ALA in time (unless I go pain free for a very long period of time). I have only been on the Zegerid for 5 nights now. Burning now and then but remain hopeful. I know it takes takes weeks for full benefits of Zegerid to take effect. I do agree that possibly the stress and burning has caused damage to the myelin and therefore I will need the ALA. Either way, I will check back in. Again, many thanks to everyone.Kristine"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Up until a few weeks ago, I had never heard of this. What I did come across was a show on TV that had featured something very similar. In this case the cause was the person's high blood pressure meds. When meds were changed the symptoms went away. Don't know if it will help but - something to consider."
02/27/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "It's ALA."
02/28/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Becca, Prioris and Ed: I am going out to get the ALA today. I did more research on Silent Reflux and BMS and find that some patients take the Zegerid and ALA together. They take the Zegerid to help control the reflux, and the ALA for the burning pain. Also, finding so many cases where BMS is directly related to Silent Reflux (LBR). Burning persists, at about a 1-3 today and yesterday....at least not the 7-8 I had been experiencing.Becca, how long did it take for the ALA to kick in and give you relief? I am going to start at 200mg 3x a day and increase it weekly until I get up to your recommended dosage. Prioris: I am having some of the side effects from the Zegerid but hope they will subside over time (headache, muscle cramping). The headache could be from not eating as well. So difficult to eat as it inevitably increases the burning. Certain foods make it very bad, while others not so bad. I am trying to be patient and let the meds and diet kick in.
Ed: I do not have high blood pressure but do appreciate your input. My blood pressure always runs on the low side. Unless the burning pain is high. At the onset of my neck pain and burning tongue I was on zero medications. Not a single one.
Thanks again everyone. I am determined and hopeful. I can function at a pain level of 1-3. When it creeps up to 7-8 that's when life gets very rough. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate all of your input. Please stay tuned as I feel I may have more questions. Thanks-
Kristine"
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I was desperate....I started out on 900mg of a high quality sustained release brand and I also wanted to get alkalined quickly so I drank 1/2 tsp of cooking grade baking soda in about 6 oz of water the first night right before I went to bed. I did the same thing the next morning. I took 600 mg that night...no baking soda. I did this for several days and then cut out the daily baking soda...just every few days if I have an acidic meal. I continue the 900 mg in the morning and another 600 in the afternoon. I saw results quickly....with 12 to 18 hours. I also us a liquid vitamin b supplement and take vitamin d....both very important in nerve conduction and neuropathy. Don't be afraid of the ALA...and definitely do the baking soda with it for the first few days."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "Today I gave someone from some ALA I had lying around - about 600mg - to try for their neuropathy. They experienced bad heart burn. It is better absorbed on empty stomach but some people need to take it with food. For people who haven't taken larger doses of ALA, it is something to be aware of.Stabilized Na R-ALA has the advantage of R-ALA. It also has contaminants removed. It suppose to have the highest bioavailability (40 to 60 percent more). It also suppose to NOT have heart burn and stomach upset properties of the other types. I ordered some Na R-ALA a couple days ago so will see how that does."
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris...am curious where you got information on the R ALA. None of the clinical studies I read mentioned a "stabilized" version of ALA. I would love to read up on it if you would share."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "This goes into more details about Alpha Lipoic Acid and why you may want stabilized form. I hadn't looked into ALA for quite a few years and found out things I hadn't been aware of. http://claudiap.hubpages.com/hub/What-to-Be-Very-Careful-About-When-You-Get-Alpha-Lipoic-Acid"
03/01/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris.....thanks for the info. Been reading up on it and have decided to give it a try. Just as DIM is the stable form of Indole Carbinol 3 ...which is what my doctor put me on years ago before the stabilized derivative was discovered..and is safer to use...i understand the stability issue of taking natural remedies. Although I have had great success with the ALA that I have been taking...there is still some unresolved issues and the brand that I trust also has the Stabalized R ALA and I should be able to take fewer tablets. Thanks again for the info....and God's health to you!"
03/01/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "In one brand of the Bioenhanced Stabilized Na R-ALA I saw a note for Burning Mouth Syndrome"Please note: For BMS (Burning Mouth Syndrome) we recommend you take 2 capsules 4 times a day until you see results. Then you can reduce the amount slowly until you see what works for you.
1 capsule = 150mg"
03/02/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I picked up the only ALA I could find at the Vitamin Shop. There were 2 types and I bought both. One is a triple strength ALA rapid release at 300mg and the other is a maximum strength ALA at 600mg. Started on it yesterday afternoon. I could not find any type of stabilized R ALA, but maybe I could order once I finish the supply I have.I am feeling very hopeful. I continue with the Zegerid for now, 20mg 2x a day and muscle cramping has ceased, with occasional headaches remaining. Prioris and Becca: Do you suggest then that I take 300mg of the ALA 4x a day to start then? I am basing this on your recent suggestion. I started yesterday with the 600mg straight off and like you said Becca, I had adverse stomach reactions which subsided over time but I was very happy with the level of burning. I would put it at a 1 yesterday. Yesterday was a very good day.
Becca: I have been on sub-lingual vitamin B-12 with folic acid for quite some time and my blood test results always show that I am running high on all vitamin B's. My doc stresses to keep up on this supplement. She also recently added vitamin D to my regime as I am running on the low end of the scale.
My vitamins and supplements were recently scaled back largely and at this time I am taking the following: Juice Plus, vitamin B-12 with folic acid (2 tablets under the tongue 2x a day), Vitamin D every other day, fish oil, Etodolac 400mg mostly in the mornings for maintenance of arthritis pain in neck (if it's bad in the evening as well), and Norco 5 for emergency tongue pain and/or neck pain. I do my best not to take this unless necessary as I realize what an awful drug this is. It does help tremendously when my tongue/mouth burning is bad. If the tongue burning goes over a pain level of 5 I will take one. Without fail it always brings the burning down to a 1-2.
Thanks so much to both of you. You are God's sends, without a doubt.
Kristine"
03/02/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I take my ALA twice a day....900 mg in the morning (3 x 300mg) and another 300 to 600 mg in the afternoon depending on how I feel. Vitamin D is crucial....at one time I was on a prescription of one a week at 100,000 I.u. Later, my doctor said I could just take OTC.....I take 1000 I.u. daily. I was taking several different supplements daily and ended up getting some imbalances. Now, I know this may sound weird, but I decided that I needed one balanced supplement that gave me everything I need and settled on a well known brand of pre natal vitamin with DHA. I take the above dose of ALA, vitamin D, and the pre natal. I feel better all over, energy is great, and the imbalances are re-balancing. I have layed off of the extra sublingual B for the moment...will let my body tell me when I need it. I am going to change to the stabilized ALA...found my brand on amazon...to see if I see any better results. when I have a burning flare up, I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water to alkalize quickly. This has always alleviated the burn quickly. I also rinse my mouth with soda water at night after brushing my teeth."
03/02/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "I would order the Stabilized version of Na R-ALA just based on the research. I realized you already spent money and bought something and want to use it up but I'd bite the bullet and order the stabilized form. You can test it side by side. You want to stop the BMS first and then you can maybe use up the ALA later while on maintenance.You have to take at least 1200 mg of ALA (and that may include side effects also) to even begin to hope to match the Stabilized Na R-ALA form but the stabilized version has much higher bioavailability. So it is probably between 5 to 40 times better than ALA so that makes purchasing ALA a waste of money. I can't verify at the moment whether it is 40 times.
Research has shown that unstabilized ALA absorbs better than unstabilized R-ALA so forget about unstabilized R-ALA.
Someone mentioned that sustained release form worked best. That is what helps maintain the levels in blood stream. That is probably the reason why they recommended taking it 4 times a day in NON-sustained release form. This is something to take into account when treating oneself to rid yourself of the painful symptoms.
They also had a dosage of 1200mg to 1800mg of ALA as effective. At least 600 mg of ALA was starting point for therapeutic effects. The stabilized form could cut that dose down to between 300 mg to 900 mg.
"Most ALA supplements sold today contain a 50/50 mixture of natural (R-Lipoic) and unnatural (S-Lipoic) Lipoic Acid. The S-Lipoic Acid form, which is not found in nature, is a byproduct of chemical synthesis.
Research indicates that not only does the human body have difficulty absorbing this unnatural version, it may actually inhibit the most essential properties of the R-Lipoic Acid form.
The “R” form is considered the biologically superior form because it is identical to the ALA produced by the body.
Unfortunately, without special processing, R-Lipoic Acid is highly unstable and difficult to absorb.
This problem has been solved with the introduction of Bio-Enhanced? R-Lipoic Acid, the world’s first stabilized RLA." Geronova is one of the companies doing research into this."
03/03/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you so much. Prioris, will do re: the Stabilized ALA. I feel so much better, it's amazing. Becca, I failed to mention that I have been brushing my teeth with baking soda only, dating back to June. I tried to switch back to regular toothpaste a few weeks ago but couldn't handle the increased burning. I've had 3 great days in a row (I would rank my burning pain at a 0-2 all day long) and have had no need for Norco. I am drinking only alkaline water, rather than regular bottled water since last week and will try your remedy next time the burning increases, but hoping there isn't a next time. I also added back in an occasional glass of red wine (not suppose to have alcohol on reflux diet) as I have to say I do love it, and it completely takes away the burning.So to sum it up for any other sufferers, I currently have been on the Zegerid for 8 days at 20mg 2X a day, started the anti-reflux diet and alkaline water at same time, and have added ALA at 1,200mg per day 2 days ago. I have to reiterate how the chemistry of my mouth has completely changed since starting the Zegerid and diet, amongst so many other Silent Reflux symptoms diminishing.
I remain very hopeful, positive and blessed to regain control and have my life back. I cannot give enough thanks to EarthClinic for hosting this site, Ashley for her original posting, and Prioris and Becca for staying with me and helping so very much. 2 years and 8 months now, 11 or more doctors later, and finally, some hope for relief of this horribly chronic burning pain.
Kristine"
03/10/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "to Kristine from Chicago....just wondering how you were doing. I am 4 days on the Stabilized R ALA and have seen even more improvement than on the regular ALA. Definitely worth the extra money. I still take 3 capsules in the morning...but its only 450mg instead of 900mg. So far, that has been enough for the whole day."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 07:55:40 -0600
Good luck to you! Sincerely, Debbie"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "It is wise to keep all body parts as much as possible. Swishing Colloidal Silver in the mouth will proly be your best first try for this infection. If this doesn't work, try swishing MMS (Miracle Mineral solution) as directed. Check Genesis II Church Of Health & Healing dot com for specifics."
02/25/2014: Debbie from Lodi, Ca: "Hi there, just curious if you are taking Fosamax or the generic drug for prevention of osteroporosis? A side effect of the drug is a condition called osteonecrosis of the jaw also known as jaw death. Both my mother and mother in law recently had teeth pulled due to this drug. Last spring my mothers femur broke due to this pill that was supposed to make her bones stronger! Needless to say neither women are taking this dangerous drug any longer.Good luck to you! Sincerely, Debbie"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "One possible option is ozone therapy ... "Infusion of medical oxygen/ozone into infected jaw bone (cavitation)." Finding a dentist and traveling to where they may present some obstacles. I would also investigate using dmso with something else like h202 to kill infection.The state of dentistry on this planet is horrible. Saving teeth just isn't on the agenda. When you go to a dentist, they can put you between the hard ground and a rock."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 02:51:41 -0600
I also occasionally use lemon Water to help open things up down there."
02/25/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Jewel51,I read your post and think, "Lobelia! " It is an anti-spasmodic herb and we have used it with success in our house for a number of things, though not for gall bladder issues. We have used it for asthma and for suspected appendicitis.
You can buy the loose herb and make a tincture of an oil infusion. I would use this externally over the area where you have pain. It absorbs readily into the skin. You may be able to buy a tincture or oil. I can give more detail on making the infusion or tincture if you want to try that. You may also be able to take it internally and have it work, but be careful as a small amount of lobelia is a relaxant and too much is a stimulant. If your body is toxic, a small amount internally can cause vomiting.
I also would not be surprised to see a charcoal poultice or castor oil pack help you in this situation. I have used both for pain in the gall bladder area as well as for other things. There is information about both on this website.
Do you know if any foods are irritating your gall bladder? I know certain ones do mine, especially coffee, sadly!
Let us know what you find out. I hope you get relief soon.
~Mama to Many~"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Good information about the two types of gallbladder attacks. It is easy to just assume stone related. Won't milk thistle get the bile flowing?"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Jewels51: To strengthen the Liver/Gallbladder and increase the flow of bile take Triple Strengthen Lecithin and Dr. Christopher's Liver/Gallbladder Formula. There are many herbal suppliers w/ different names to this formula. The one I used to take was called Liveron. An internet search should produce some good results, but if not report back and I can give you the list of the home made formula I use.I also occasionally use lemon Water to help open things up down there."
Wed, 26 Feb 14 02:37:24 -0600
Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "It is wise to keep all body parts as much as possible. Swishing Colloidal Silver in the mouth will proly be your best first try for this infection. If this doesn't work, try swishing MMS (Miracle Mineral solution) as directed. Check Genesis II Church Of Health & Healing dot com for specifics."
02/25/2014: Debbie from Lodi, Ca: "Hi there, just curious if you are taking Fosamax or the generic drug for prevention of osteroporosis? A side effect of the drug is a condition called osteonecrosis of the jaw also known as jaw death. Both my mother and mother in law recently had teeth pulled due to this drug. Last spring my mothers femur broke due to this pill that was supposed to make her bones stronger! Needless to say neither women are taking this dangerous drug any longer.Good luck to you! Sincerely, Debbie"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "One possible option is ozone therapy ... "Infusion of medical oxygen/ozone into infected jaw bone (cavitation)." Finding a dentist and traveling to where they may present some obstacles. I would also investigate using dmso with something else like h202 to kill infection.The state of dentistry on this planet is horrible. Saving teeth just isn't on the agenda. When you go to a dentist, they can put you between the hard ground and a rock."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 22:56:48 -0600
I feel like the answer to curing my high blood pressure is by doing a toxic/metal cleanse, a liver and gallbladder cleanse and cleaning up my diet. I don't use table salt, but pink Himalayan salt and I try my best to avoid processed foods. I do green juices to help alkalize and take spirulina in small doses.
But as I said, I am afraid that doing a cleanse will also remove the medication that keeps my blood pressure down. Though I think the cleanses will cure the blood pressure problem, I worry that my bp will spike severely if either I don't take my medication and to the cleanse...or even take the medication while doing the cleanse. What advice and/or information can you give me regarding this? I'd like to clean out my body in the safest way. I am suspecting I have a slight candida problem as I have daily flatulence...not a normal level of it...it's alot and sometimes very, very smelly. I also have a hard time losing weight."
02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Shellie, before doing a cleanse, you might want to try "cleaning up" your diet. That might be the safest "cleanse"."
02/25/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Shellie: Mmsg is right. Eating the best food the right way nourishes the cells and detoxes the poisons. Active nutrients lower the energies of the pathogens. When the energy of the cells is higher they zap the pathogens with electricity. There is a video of a woman who lowered her bp from 145/90 to 125/80 while taking her bp meds in 5 days. Sick fat people tend to diet. This is not wise. Increasing the metabolism is the solution. When I was in your shoes all the emotions I felt were negative, confusion, worry, and fear. Today I feel better than in my entire life. I take 80% raw carbs, activated barley, home brewed water kefir from whole sugars and whole flours, raw wildflower honey, and fruit, mainly banana, 5% fiber, 10% raw protein, and 5%/g of fats, 1/2 coconut oil and 1/2 flax oil. I take all organic and grass fed. I take the carbs, oils, and proteins together every hour with water."
Help Requested for Abdominal Pain
Tue, 25 Feb 14 22:56:22 -0600
Hi, am looking for advice, for quite a while now I have been passing mucus in my stool, I lose my appetite and when I do eat I get very bloated and have pain in my abdomen, I also feel flushed, sick, v tired and achey, can hardley walk some days. Comes in attacks that last a few days to a week. I feel hopeless and have to wait until middle of April to see a bowel specialist. I'm in need of advice as this is ruling my life. Thanks, Cass"
Asthma and Low Thyroid Connection
Tue, 25 Feb 14 22:54:07 -0600
Had it for 60 plus years. Recently, through a vegy diet and staying off 99% poisoned food asthma was bearable but I can only run around 10 metres. So, read the following article and began taking, once a day, Eltroxin, a measly 100mcg and have not used the bronchial dilator for a few months but, still addicted to the aerosol steroid – once in the evening. Now hunting for a decent size Thyroxine. Everything good is hard to find here.
Dr. David Derry Answers Reader Questions: Brought to you by Mary Shomon, Your Thyroid Guide Index of Q&As with Dr. David Derry Topic: Asthma and Thyroid Hormones
David Derry Responds: From your mother's problems you mentioned, it sounds like she is low thyroid. I have discussed hair and eyebrow loss in another answer on hair loss. Clinically you are low thyroid. What is interesting to me is your question about asthma. You said your physicians did some tests and thought it was asthma. I would like to discuss my thoughts on why your physicians might have been correct. In the mid 1980s I had a chronic asthma patient who developed an inflammation of his thyroid. After consultation with an endocrinologist he was put on Eltroxine (T4). One day when the patient came in later he mentioned that the thyroid treatment improved his asthma considerably. At the same time, my office receptionist had severe asthma since the age 12 requiring constant medications and multiple hospital visits. She knew about the results on this patient, she asked if she could try thyroid as well. I started her on 180 mg of desiccated thyroid and within a month raised her to 250 mg. This was in about 1986. She has been free of asthma symptoms since then...
Continued here http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl10.htm"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 22:48:45 -0600
Anyway, after about a week or two of these "episodes", my neck began to ache (all over, front and back) and my throat started to burn. It was awful. Gradually, I began feeling strange sensations in my tongue, which soon changed to a burning feeling- around the sides, at the tip, and even on the top. It was bizarre and terrifying to have such unusual symptoms. Eventually, my tongue even felt very sore, so sore that I talked a little funny at times (b/c I was "babying" my tongue, I think).
While experiencing all of this, between early-March and early-June 2012, I saw my PCP 3x, an ENT, a GI (APRN), and a neck/back specialist. (I also went to the ER once where I was seen, diagnosed with a sore throat, and sent home.) I felt terrible and was so desperate for some relief! (By the way, blood work and neck x-rays were negative.) A few docs, including the ER MD, felt I had a virus (for which I was first given Ibuprofen/Tylenol and later antibiotic treatments), then a few other docs suspected acid reflux. I couldn't believe that acid reflux could cause me to feel so terrible especially since I was unaware of any symptoms! Although I wanted to dismiss reflux as a possible cause, I was feeling desperate, so I tried whatever was recommended, including Maalox (2 tbsp) at bedtime (recommended by 1 ENT), then prescription medication (for reflux) in the A. M. (such as Aciphex), always 1/2 hour before breakfast (recommended by the GI APRN). With time, I felt a little improvement, but not much. So I continued to doubt the whole reflux theory; I spent so much time in fear that I had a serious illness. Why else would I feel so awful with such unusual symptoms?
Finally, my PCP sent me to a second ENT in early/mid June, about three weeks ago (for a second ENT opinion). He listened, answered all of my questions, and majorly eased my fears. While he suggested Burning Mouth Syndrome as a possibility (maybe caused by anxiety/depression, a hormonal imbalance or neuropathy), he too, felt that acid reflux might be the culprit and needed to be ruled out first. (Note: He didn't see signs and symptoms of a vitamin deficiency or thrush or lichen planus, which can cause burning mouth). He just asked me to be patient and follow his recommendations...
He seemed to be really knowledgeable; For one thing, I was impressed as he was the only doctor I saw who knew a considerable amount about BMS! (He said he had seen about 30 cases in 15 years, almost all women.) Anyway, he disagreed with the other ENT I had seen and the GI I had seen re: their treatment recommendations for possible reflux, at least in my case. He said that I had "silent reflux", which explained why I was unaware of any symptoms. He said that Maalox at bedtime wasn't enough, and taking medication in the a.m. (I. E. Aciphex) wasn't doing me any good as I was experiencing "silent reflux" at NIGHT. He recommended Zegrid (over the counter, 20 mg) for 4 weeks; he wanted me to take it in the evening rather than the a.m. Again, I was doubtful, wondering if, again, I was just wasting my time and money. (This has gotten quite expensive as I'm sure you can imagine! ) Anyway, it's been almost 3 weeks and I'm feeling MUCH, MUCH better! Seriously, I went from being on the verge of tears (almost nightly) due to tongue discomfort, and gargling with Maalox (and other remedies) multiple times a day to rarely thinking about my tongue (d/t a lack of discomfort) and no gargling (with one exception, which I'll mention in a minute). My pain, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the worst) went from about an average of 8 to an average of 1 or 2! :) The choking feeling stopped first, then the burning in my throat went away; gradually, the aches and pains in my neck ceased, and finally my tongue burning and soreness subsided! But it did take time (3 weeks and counting) and patience like the doc said.
In short, I felt I just had to write and post on "Earth Clinic" b/c I had visited this website many times while trying to find relief for my burning/painful tongue. Others provided me with some helpful suggestions (and support), so I figured now it's my turn to (hopefully) help others.
In conclusion, here are my thoughts having been through this burning tongue/bottom lip/throat nightmare myself: First of all, while very uncomfortable, don't panic and don't think the worst (like I did). Be persistent (with your doctor), experiment with various remedies (from sucking on ice to gargling with Maalox), and, most importantly, be patient and positive (if at all possible)... Remember, it took 3 months for me to find a doctor with the right "remedy" and then weeks of using the this remedy (20 mg Zegerid OTC in the evening x 28 days) for me to feel ALMOST total relief. Seriously, I never thought I'd see this day (a couple of months back)!
Please note, I started taking folic acid and Vit. B Stress pills (in the A. M.) at about the same time I started taking Zegerid. I also started brushing my teeth (and gargling) with Biotene 2x/day awhile back. I figured I had nothing to lose. While I don't think I have (or ever had) a vitamin deficiency, I started taking vitamins b/c it was suggested by others with BMS symptoms. The ENT said my tongue would be bright red and shiny, which it wasn't, if I was suffering from a vitamin deficency. Just thought I should mention this anyway...
Good Luck to anyone suffering from a burning mouth/tongue. I know it's terrible, but I really think you can find some relief if you're able to get to the root of the problem. It may take awhile and, unfortunately, quite a bit of money, but it can be done, so please don't lose hope! Strive to meet with a doctor familiar with the various causes of BMS as this should save you a lot of time and unnecessary (and costly) doctor visits.
All My Best, Ashley"
11/22/2013: Kay from Bala Cynwyd, Pa: "To Judy from Australia- did you BMS stop? Your story sounds like mine."
02/21/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I am 46 years old and have had burning tongue/mouth syndrome for 2 years and 7 months and yes, have spent literally thousands of dollars on doctor/dentist/specialists, lab work, more lab work, etc and am currently on Dr. #11. My chiropractor/nutritionist is helping the most. My story is similar in that the burning mouth and neck pain started together. Sometimes things seem to help and then the burning comes back and progressively gets worse. I have tried every remedy out there and then some. I have cleaned my body of yeast, have lost 15 pounds on an already very slim frame, avoid sugars (except red wine in evening. It numbs my mouth and is my only source of relief), breads, found I am very allergic to all dairy and eggs and have slight to moderate allergies of many foods. I eat extremely healthy and am scared of literally everything I consume. I am perimenopausal and the burning tongue/mouth and neck pain started in the midst of my mother's decline in her long battle with COPD. Some doctors thought it was stress related and the burning would subside after she passed. She died 15 months ago and it has not left. I have not had a single day without burning in my mouth in 2 years and 7 months. I am going to try the Zegrid starting tonight. My chiropractor ran tests that show I am significantly lacking in progesterone and when I started the natural oil 2 weeks ago, it made a tremendous improvement in the burning sensation. 2 weeks on progesterone, then 2 weeks off. I just started the 2 weeks off, 2 days ago, and they burning returned with a vengeance. This is a horrible affliction. I can sympathize with those that end their lives over this. This is all consuming and prior to this affliction, I rarely visited doctors. There is so much more I could write but I will stop for now and check back in once I have gone through a few rounds of progesterone and a month of Zegrid. Wish me luck please. And luck to everyone out there who suffers from this devastating affliction. Thank you for sharing Ashley.Kristine"
02/21/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Have you tried supplementing with magnesium? Most of us are low on it and stress will cause you to burn through it. A quick google showed a study that found a connection between burning mouth and magnesium deficiency."
02/21/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Hi Kristine.Burning mouth seems to be a form of neuropathy. Burning is a common sensation of neuropathy, Maybe the myelin of the nerves is being destroyed. Have you tried the methylcobalamin, benfotiamine and R alpha lipoic acid remedies.
"In one study, researchers followed 42 women and 18 men with burning mouth syndrome. The patients were given either 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid or placebos three times daily for two months. Nearly all of the patients on alpha lipoic acid showed improvement compared to placebo, and 75 percent benefited substantially, with some experiencing complete recovery."
You mentioned that your mother who passed away had COPD. I am just curious what remedies she had tried."
02/22/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you both for your feedback. Yes, I have tried magnesium injections to no benefit. I have yet to try ALA but it did read very much about it on this site. My intention was to try the Zegerid at bedtime as Ashley had mentioned, give it a month, and if it did not help, switch to ALA. Or should I try the ALA first?Thinking it was a neuropathy, we tried gabapentin for several months increasing the dosage to 2600 mg but the side effects were worsening and my BTS/BMS did not improve, although it did in the beginning.
My mother did not have BTS, just COPD. She lived much longer than any doctor predicted and they were actually amazed b/c she lived for more than 2 years after she fell and broke her hip. At the time of her fall her lung capacity was 12.5%. She was on oxygen for 9 years prior to her death.
Thank you very much for any and all advice.
Kristine"
02/22/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Zegrid has serious side effects: easy bruising or bleeding, unusual weakness; fast or slow heartbeats; or low magnesium (dizziness, confusion, fast or uneven heart rate, jerking muscle movements, jittery feeling, muscle cramps, muscle weakness or limp feeling, cough or choking feeling, seizure) ... This isn't a drug you want to be on for the long term. Even if you do get some relief with it, I'd keep searching for something more natural.I'd make sure you use Right ALA. I'd go with right ALA first since your system may be more clean of medications."
02/23/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "To Kristine in Chicago.....try 1500 to 1800 mg of sustained release alpha lipoic acid along with a good b12 supplement....the ALA literally saved my life. It's not completely gone because I think part of mine is related to my thyroid, but I am living again. There are many medical studies related to ALA at that dosage and BMS. Good luck!"
02/24/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris from FL and Becca from Abilene: Thank you both so very much for your input. I started on the Zegerid 2 nights ago and changed my diet/lifestyle (once again) in the hopes of some relief. I have noticed a big difference in the chemistry of my mouth in the am, but the burning, albeit less, still persists (and I know this is not an over night solution). Given all of the information I am seeing posted re: ALA, I believe I can take this with the Zegerid. Is this correct? I want to give the Zegerid time to help with the reflux because after all of the research I have done on silent reflux (LBR), and my lifestyle and diet, I believe this could be the culprit. I have every symptom of LBR except heartburn, and I realize most people who suffer from LBR do not present with heartburn. So now I have changed my diet and eating habits (I was always a late dinner eater), switched to alkaline water, am taking the Zegerid and would like to add ALA but have seen varying posts about the dosage. I am 5'6 and 107 pounds currently. Also, the burning really returned with a vengeance after I stopped the progesterone oil at bedtime (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off). After researching the internet and talking with my chiropractor/nutritionist, I found that progesterone neutralizes acid in the esophagus and stomach. And is a natural stress reliever. Stress causes more acid reflux. Ugh! I am obsessed and all consumed with this condition. I cannot believe I still have it after this long. I feel as if I cannot move forward in life or honestly enjoy life to the fullest until I get this constant burning pain under control.Again, I really appreciate your input. I want to start on the ALA but need to be sure I am taking the correct dosage. And then again, I am concerned that starting on too many things (Zegerid, ALA and natural progesterone...which my doc says is very much needed as I am completely depleted of this hormone) will cause confusion as to which is beneficial for this condition, although all may be.
Thanks again!
Kristine"
02/24/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Kristine: 4oz canned sweet potatoes every other day makes progesterone. 1g hops extract prevents them from being aromatized."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I think the progesterone being a hormone would be the highest priority especially if you are depleted. Being depleted of any hormone could set off a chain reaction of problems in your body.I would stop taking the Zegerid and take the R-ALA. The other poster mentioned taking 1500-1800 grams and that being affective for her. I would consider that dosage since it was effective for her. They say that 300 grams is therapeutic dose. Start at 300 and work your way up. Maybe you won't need as high a dose. Even studies have used up to 1200mg for 3 weeks or so.
Experiment with Zegerid later. I'd be concerned about how the Zegerid interacts with the other two the most. I know you started it so may be pain to stop it but that is just my 2 cents worth."
02/25/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "I too am not a fan of the Zegarid....could actually compound the problem. You might try Mastic Gum..one capsule morning and evening....medically proven to heal stomach issues....took myself and worked great. As far as the dosage of ALA...most of the clinical trials said that some relief started at 600 mg....most got significant relief at 1200 to 1800 mg per day with no negative side effects noted and was studied for two years. I agree...start low and increase slow. My endo gave me progesterone capsules to take everyday...I take sporadically. Never heard of low progesterone being linked to BMS....but hormones do crazy things to the body so you never know. Hang in there...no one that has never experienced it can begin to understand what it does to the body and mind."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Just for clarification. Are those doses of ALA the ALA or the R-ALA?"
02/26/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris, Becca, and Mike62: Thank you so very much for all of your input and help you have shared. I really appreciate it. But I have to admit that I have stayed on the Zegerid at bedtime and the changes have been amazing. I have also committed to the diet and lifestyle of acid reflux sufferers, buying the book "Dropping Acid, The Reflux Diet Cookbook and Cure". I have nearly every symptom of this problem and medicine, namely Zegerid (1 of approx 5 listed) is needed to help alleviate the symptoms of Silent Reflux or LBR). LBR is different than GERD, that is why I was unaware of my condition. The changes since taking the Zegerid and changing my diet and eating habits is tremendous!!Additionally, progesterone is a natural stress reliever and acid reducer (namely in the stomach and esophagus). I found this through my own research and discussions with my chiropractor/nutritionist/hormone therapy doctor. At the onset of this illness I was in the throws of my mother (whom I shared an extremely close and loving relationship with) entering the downward spiral of COPD, and I was in periomenopause (where your hormones are on the decline), and also a single mother preparing to send my only daughter off to college...not to mention I decided to quit my job of 20 years and start up my own business. What a perfect storm of stress and hormone depletion!!
Needless to say....I am excited and thrilled to no end right now. As I type this I have zero burning in my mouth. Yesterday I experienced maybe 2 hours of slight burning (range of about 3 on pain level). My pain level prior to the Zegerid was running a 7-8, bringing me to tears and monopolizing my entire life daily. As Becca mentioned, no one knows what this can do to your mind and body.
Thank you all so very much again and I will continue to keep you posted. If I have indeed found my remedy, after nearly 2 years and 8 months, I certainly want to help others.
Kristine"
02/26/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I'll add one more thing you can do.Zegerid side effects may not be good for you long term. It may just mask the symptom and then boomerang on you later on. Research anectdotal reports of long term use of Zegerid and see what it is doing to other people so you can nip any problem in the bud.
I'd experiment with Stabilized Na R-ALA after you've had a good vacation from pain. If it works, it will be more healthier for your body over the long term. Good Luck."
02/27/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thanks Prioris. I will check back in to confirm how I am doing. I intend on adding the ALA in time (unless I go pain free for a very long period of time). I have only been on the Zegerid for 5 nights now. Burning now and then but remain hopeful. I know it takes takes weeks for full benefits of Zegerid to take effect. I do agree that possibly the stress and burning has caused damage to the myelin and therefore I will need the ALA. Either way, I will check back in. Again, many thanks to everyone.Kristine"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Up until a few weeks ago, I had never heard of this. What I did come across was a show on TV that had featured something very similar. In this case the cause was the person's high blood pressure meds. When meds were changed the symptoms went away. Don't know if it will help but - something to consider."
02/27/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "It's ALA."
02/28/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Becca, Prioris and Ed: I am going out to get the ALA today. I did more research on Silent Reflux and BMS and find that some patients take the Zegerid and ALA together. They take the Zegerid to help control the reflux, and the ALA for the burning pain. Also, finding so many cases where BMS is directly related to Silent Reflux (LBR). Burning persists, at about a 1-3 today and yesterday....at least not the 7-8 I had been experiencing.Becca, how long did it take for the ALA to kick in and give you relief? I am going to start at 200mg 3x a day and increase it weekly until I get up to your recommended dosage. Prioris: I am having some of the side effects from the Zegerid but hope they will subside over time (headache, muscle cramping). The headache could be from not eating as well. So difficult to eat as it inevitably increases the burning. Certain foods make it very bad, while others not so bad. I am trying to be patient and let the meds and diet kick in.
Ed: I do not have high blood pressure but do appreciate your input. My blood pressure always runs on the low side. Unless the burning pain is high. At the onset of my neck pain and burning tongue I was on zero medications. Not a single one.
Thanks again everyone. I am determined and hopeful. I can function at a pain level of 1-3. When it creeps up to 7-8 that's when life gets very rough. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate all of your input. Please stay tuned as I feel I may have more questions. Thanks-
Kristine"
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I was desperate....I started out on 900mg of a high quality sustained release brand and I also wanted to get alkalined quickly so I drank 1/2 tsp of cooking grade baking soda in about 6 oz of water the first night right before I went to bed. I did the same thing the next morning. I took 600 mg that night...no baking soda. I did this for several days and then cut out the daily baking soda...just every few days if I have an acidic meal. I continue the 900 mg in the morning and another 600 in the afternoon. I saw results quickly....with 12 to 18 hours. I also us a liquid vitamin b supplement and take vitamin d....both very important in nerve conduction and neuropathy. Don't be afraid of the ALA...and definitely do the baking soda with it for the first few days."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "Today I gave someone from some ALA I had lying around - about 600mg - to try for their neuropathy. They experienced bad heart burn. It is better absorbed on empty stomach but some people need to take it with food. For people who haven't taken larger doses of ALA, it is something to be aware of.Stabilized Na R-ALA has the advantage of R-ALA. It also has contaminants removed. It suppose to have the highest bioavailability (40 to 60 percent more). It also suppose to NOT have heart burn and stomach upset properties of the other types. I ordered some Na R-ALA a couple days ago so will see how that does."
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris...am curious where you got information on the R ALA. None of the clinical studies I read mentioned a "stabilized" version of ALA. I would love to read up on it if you would share."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "This goes into more details about Alpha Lipoic Acid and why you may want stabilized form. I hadn't looked into ALA for quite a few years and found out things I hadn't been aware of. http://claudiap.hubpages.com/hub/What-to-Be-Very-Careful-About-When-You-Get-Alpha-Lipoic-Acid"
03/01/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris.....thanks for the info. Been reading up on it and have decided to give it a try. Just as DIM is the stable form of Indole Carbinol 3 ...which is what my doctor put me on years ago before the stabilized derivative was discovered..and is safer to use...i understand the stability issue of taking natural remedies. Although I have had great success with the ALA that I have been taking...there is still some unresolved issues and the brand that I trust also has the Stabalized R ALA and I should be able to take fewer tablets. Thanks again for the info....and God's health to you!"
03/01/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "In one brand of the Bioenhanced Stabilized Na R-ALA I saw a note for Burning Mouth Syndrome"Please note: For BMS (Burning Mouth Syndrome) we recommend you take 2 capsules 4 times a day until you see results. Then you can reduce the amount slowly until you see what works for you.
1 capsule = 150mg"
03/02/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I picked up the only ALA I could find at the Vitamin Shop. There were 2 types and I bought both. One is a triple strength ALA rapid release at 300mg and the other is a maximum strength ALA at 600mg. Started on it yesterday afternoon. I could not find any type of stabilized R ALA, but maybe I could order once I finish the supply I have.I am feeling very hopeful. I continue with the Zegerid for now, 20mg 2x a day and muscle cramping has ceased, with occasional headaches remaining. Prioris and Becca: Do you suggest then that I take 300mg of the ALA 4x a day to start then? I am basing this on your recent suggestion. I started yesterday with the 600mg straight off and like you said Becca, I had adverse stomach reactions which subsided over time but I was very happy with the level of burning. I would put it at a 1 yesterday. Yesterday was a very good day.
Becca: I have been on sub-lingual vitamin B-12 with folic acid for quite some time and my blood test results always show that I am running high on all vitamin B's. My doc stresses to keep up on this supplement. She also recently added vitamin D to my regime as I am running on the low end of the scale.
My vitamins and supplements were recently scaled back largely and at this time I am taking the following: Juice Plus, vitamin B-12 with folic acid (2 tablets under the tongue 2x a day), Vitamin D every other day, fish oil, Etodolac 400mg mostly in the mornings for maintenance of arthritis pain in neck (if it's bad in the evening as well), and Norco 5 for emergency tongue pain and/or neck pain. I do my best not to take this unless necessary as I realize what an awful drug this is. It does help tremendously when my tongue/mouth burning is bad. If the tongue burning goes over a pain level of 5 I will take one. Without fail it always brings the burning down to a 1-2.
Thanks so much to both of you. You are God's sends, without a doubt.
Kristine"
03/02/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I take my ALA twice a day....900 mg in the morning (3 x 300mg) and another 300 to 600 mg in the afternoon depending on how I feel. Vitamin D is crucial....at one time I was on a prescription of one a week at 100,000 I.u. Later, my doctor said I could just take OTC.....I take 1000 I.u. daily. I was taking several different supplements daily and ended up getting some imbalances. Now, I know this may sound weird, but I decided that I needed one balanced supplement that gave me everything I need and settled on a well known brand of pre natal vitamin with DHA. I take the above dose of ALA, vitamin D, and the pre natal. I feel better all over, energy is great, and the imbalances are re-balancing. I have layed off of the extra sublingual B for the moment...will let my body tell me when I need it. I am going to change to the stabilized ALA...found my brand on amazon...to see if I see any better results. when I have a burning flare up, I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water to alkalize quickly. This has always alleviated the burn quickly. I also rinse my mouth with soda water at night after brushing my teeth."
03/02/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "I would order the Stabilized version of Na R-ALA just based on the research. I realized you already spent money and bought something and want to use it up but I'd bite the bullet and order the stabilized form. You can test it side by side. You want to stop the BMS first and then you can maybe use up the ALA later while on maintenance.You have to take at least 1200 mg of ALA (and that may include side effects also) to even begin to hope to match the Stabilized Na R-ALA form but the stabilized version has much higher bioavailability. So it is probably between 5 to 40 times better than ALA so that makes purchasing ALA a waste of money. I can't verify at the moment whether it is 40 times.
Research has shown that unstabilized ALA absorbs better than unstabilized R-ALA so forget about unstabilized R-ALA.
Someone mentioned that sustained release form worked best. That is what helps maintain the levels in blood stream. That is probably the reason why they recommended taking it 4 times a day in NON-sustained release form. This is something to take into account when treating oneself to rid yourself of the painful symptoms.
They also had a dosage of 1200mg to 1800mg of ALA as effective. At least 600 mg of ALA was starting point for therapeutic effects. The stabilized form could cut that dose down to between 300 mg to 900 mg.
"Most ALA supplements sold today contain a 50/50 mixture of natural (R-Lipoic) and unnatural (S-Lipoic) Lipoic Acid. The S-Lipoic Acid form, which is not found in nature, is a byproduct of chemical synthesis.
Research indicates that not only does the human body have difficulty absorbing this unnatural version, it may actually inhibit the most essential properties of the R-Lipoic Acid form.
The “R” form is considered the biologically superior form because it is identical to the ALA produced by the body.
Unfortunately, without special processing, R-Lipoic Acid is highly unstable and difficult to absorb.
This problem has been solved with the introduction of Bio-Enhanced? R-Lipoic Acid, the world’s first stabilized RLA." Geronova is one of the companies doing research into this."
03/03/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you so much. Prioris, will do re: the Stabilized ALA. I feel so much better, it's amazing. Becca, I failed to mention that I have been brushing my teeth with baking soda only, dating back to June. I tried to switch back to regular toothpaste a few weeks ago but couldn't handle the increased burning. I've had 3 great days in a row (I would rank my burning pain at a 0-2 all day long) and have had no need for Norco. I am drinking only alkaline water, rather than regular bottled water since last week and will try your remedy next time the burning increases, but hoping there isn't a next time. I also added back in an occasional glass of red wine (not suppose to have alcohol on reflux diet) as I have to say I do love it, and it completely takes away the burning.So to sum it up for any other sufferers, I currently have been on the Zegerid for 8 days at 20mg 2X a day, started the anti-reflux diet and alkaline water at same time, and have added ALA at 1,200mg per day 2 days ago. I have to reiterate how the chemistry of my mouth has completely changed since starting the Zegerid and diet, amongst so many other Silent Reflux symptoms diminishing.
I remain very hopeful, positive and blessed to regain control and have my life back. I cannot give enough thanks to EarthClinic for hosting this site, Ashley for her original posting, and Prioris and Becca for staying with me and helping so very much. 2 years and 8 months now, 11 or more doctors later, and finally, some hope for relief of this horribly chronic burning pain.
Kristine"
03/10/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "to Kristine from Chicago....just wondering how you were doing. I am 4 days on the Stabilized R ALA and have seen even more improvement than on the regular ALA. Definitely worth the extra money. I still take 3 capsules in the morning...but its only 450mg instead of 900mg. So far, that has been enough for the whole day."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 22:48:15 -0600
I have been using coconut oil for 4 months now on and inside my body. I will say first off that I do not believe in this systemic candida issue and these "die-offs. " I do, however, believe in eliminating processed foods from my diet, while eating locally, organically, and sustainable. It is a learning process. So organic virgin coconut oil is great stuff. Here is what I have used it for.
Yeast infection: I am currently suffering from repeated yeast infections... Check that... I am just not getting rid this yeast infection completely. I have tried the prescription pills and OTC creams. Coconut oil is great for relieving symptoms and the infection temporarily. It has been more effective than the creams or prescriptions thus far. My infection has always been minor/mild. I am getting insurance in a few weeks, so I have not been to the doctor recently, so it is undiagnosed, and I am very well aware that I could be misdiagnosing (but after hours and hours and months of reading, I don't think that I am). It began with diagnosed BV and antibiotics (so I know the difference).
Put some coconut oil in a glass, and put that glass in a stopped sink with hot water (about an inch worth). The oil will melt pretty quickly while you brush you do your bathroom routine. Dip an organic cotton tampon in, swirl it around in the oil, and put it on up there. It is pretty much instant relief for me. I leave it in 2-6 hours. After doing this for three days my symptoms will disappear but always temporarily. Basically it gets rid of the problem on the surface but not entirely.
May I suggest that EVERYONE read the V Book. There is a crazy amount of misinformation on this site. Read this book. The chapter on yeast infections is online so just google it. Learn about your body apart from only second hand naturopath advice which, if you understand the complexity of scientific experimentation- studies, you will understand that a naturopath (though sometimes helpful) is not a substitute for a doctor... Meh.. But to each their own. If you have reoccurring yeast infections, put some coconut oil up there to get you through and insist on a culture from your gyno.
Please do not get into these year/s long extraordinarily restrictive diets that drive you to the point of thinking every ache and pain is the candida monster thriving inside of you. Eating a little sugar does not cause yeast infections... Now, if you are drinking a liter of pop a day and over a quarter of milk with a bunch of cookies, etc...well...
Moisturizer/stretch marks: Coconut oil makes a great moisturizer. My boyfriend loves it. I would like to use it as a sexual lubricant as well.
After a month of regular use there is no noticeable difference in my stretch marks.
I do use it on my face and upper shoulders where I have the occasion pimple break out. Coconut oil does not reduce nor cause pimples as far as I can tell. I definitely do not breakout from coconut oil, but it does not seem to have much of an effect on existing pimples. Things are pretty much as they ever were, though I have received compliments on my skin.
Toothpaste: Google a recipe. I have been using it as a homemade toothpaste base for only a week now. Nothing incredible to report, but I do not think that I have bad breath.
Shaving cream: I only shave with coconut oil now! I put a little melted oil on my legs and shave away. It is great! Razor burn is not completely eliminated, but definitely greatly reduced.
Consumption/Internal Use: Okay... I have added 1-3 T in my coffee for... 4 months now, every morning. This does _not_ eliminate yeast infections. It does absolutely nothing as far as preventing/stopping yeast infections. No changes whatsoever from ingesting.
Eating this stuff does increase your metabolism. This means your heart rate will increase and your body temp increases so you will sweat more. I hate this. I have not lost weight (getting back into my yoga routine now.. Exercise and eating right is the only way to lose weight... There is no special tonic). The increased sweating (especially at school or in work when I tend to be more nervous) is terrible. I don't like it. I don't smell great from it either.
This is not a herx reaction or any kind of toxin die off. People that throw out "herx" every time someone has a negative reaction (most of them either allergic or due to severely depriving oneself of carbohydrates/sodium/sugar) make me insane. Look up coconut oil. It raises metabolism and heart rate. I do not have a mysterious systemic candida condition that everyone has and every single doctor ever attempts to mask from their patient's eyes in order to line their pockets with more yeast money. If you are sensitive to raised heart rates (I am and the first day was kind of rough so I had to start smaller and build up the dose) then start with just a little and work your way up. I am going to work my way back down on this one as I am not sure that a little increased energy is worth the sweatiness and warm sensation all day. We will see.
But most importantly, eating coconut oil does not do anything for yeast infections... At least not for mine. I will say that topical application as described above has worked better than Apple Cider Vinegar (did nothing... I started using Apple Cider Vinegar for everything and it did nothing for anything, but I do use it to cook), garlic (did nothing... Ingested and stuck some up there overnight a few times), yogurt (did nothing), probiotics (love for digestion but as suppositories they do nothing for me, and I have tried all of the most recommended brands made especially for vaginal flora harmony)."
01/17/2013: Iowama Quoting Dr. Terry Wahls from Pella, Ia: "Hi Erin, I read your post and wanted to throw in a remedy for that yeast infection you've experienced. My daughter and I have sometimes developed them, usually after we eat too many sweets. We have tried the following with great success: Instead of dipping your tampon in melted coconut oil, moisten it with apple cider vinegar and leave it in for 3 to 4 hours, or sleep with it in. I hope this helps!"
01/18/2013: Faeqa from Amman, Jordan: "Hi Erin; I used black cumin (Nigella Sativa) for internal fungus and Yeast infection and it give me a very good result and a complete cure within one week, I think if you use it, it may give the same.The way I used is: grind it then add ACV, let it stand around one hour to be a soft paste, take internally one teaspoon 2 -3 times a day (before or after meal), and put this paste externally 2 times a day
Not: don't grind alot of black cumin, just prepare for 2-3 days every time and keep it tightly in a jar because it oxidize by air."
03/03/2013: Heather from San Diego, California: "Hi Erin from Pittsburgh, Pa! Thank you so much for being a voice of reason here.I too think that people are a bit over zealous when it comes to systemic candida claims. I get that we may have fungal issues, but, well, no need to rehash what you said.
I've tried many things on earth clinic for my chronic fatigue syndrome with severe insomnia, lack of energy and brain fog. Going after mysterious systemic candida was an epic fail. However, using Ted's remedies I have been able to get rid of local fungal issues, and coconut oil internally and externally has improved feet fungus (white powdery heels) as well as improving my ability to breath deeply (previously had shallow breathing. ) The latter was a remarkable improvement, and reason enough to keep using it as a general health tonic.
It has made no difference in my hormonal acne, or hormonal troubles. It dries out my chapped lips and hands when I use it instead of lip balm or lotion. The jury is still out on whether it truly offers any increased energy, but I like that it may be effective as an antiviral, and that it helps with cellular energy including brain energy via ketones. Viral and energy metabolism issues may be the source of my many problems, which are all the same symptoms of the mysterious systemic candida.
I am aware of the dangers of consuming polyunsaturated fats, so only use coconut oil in a reasonable amount for cooking. If I go long enough without cooking in it, I'll take it now in teaspoons, not the tablespoons I was downing for many months for candida. I did not lose weight with coconut oil, and it didn't noticeably reduce my appetite. Other things have worked for those issues, including giving up grains and sweets, and alkalizing.
I've used both RBD and EVCO forms. It's the specific type of fatty acids that work, not the organic or non organic forms of those fatty acids. If you can't afford organic, go to Walmart and get a $5 tub of their cheap stuff (Luannes?). It will work the same regardless of what the slick marketers tell you.
Anyhow, I think people post to earth clinic miracle cures for things they've only been using for a few days, and this bothers me. Use coconut oil, yes! Try it to see if it works for a given condition long term (I'm still breathing great! ).
The HIV and Alzheimer's research using coconut oil is promising; as is its potential for preventing SIDs. If I had a bad virus, or a vaginal yeast infection, I'd use it for sure."
03/25/2013: Erin from Pittsburgh, Pa : "Heather that is really interesting, and I hope that the EVCO is helping you out!I have stopped taking it internally. I was getting no benefit after about two months of consistently cooking plus drinking in my coffee. (1-3Tbls).
As far as for yeast, I would still recommend coconut oil for really any vaginal irritation, but I don't believe that it will absolutely "cure" anything.
As soon as I stopped reading all of the systemic candida/Weston A Price Foundation nonsense and started reading up on the cervix, I started to feel better. I was focused on every little uncomfort and every thickening of discharge.
I highly recommend that women view the Beautiful Cervix Project.
I also switched to a menstrual cup rather than tampons which seems to have relieved a lot of irritation.
I stopped using coconut oil as a moisturizer as eventually it did seem to be creating acne and was not really moisturizing. The oil (a small amount with excess wiped off) was just sitting on my skin and eventually made me itchy (no this is not a toxin die off symptom). Winter skin is obviously contributing to the dryness/itch as well.
I still use coconut oil toothpaste occassionally because it does get rid of any white build up on the tongue very nicely.
I am never going to understand why so many people take the word of literally 1-3 doctors/dentists that published unreliable studies over 20-80 years ago (Weston A Price published in the 1930s and never intended to advise what the foundation puts out and though the foundation cites hundreds of sources in their panel's individual publications; there is only a handful of peer reviewed medical journals which at best were creatively interpreted by the foundation's authors). (Crook was over 20 years ago).
I've read double blind trials and different studies that tried to indentify "candida hypersensitivity" which like "gluten sensitivity" just means that no infection or allergy is present so they call it "sensitivity. " All conclusively showed that placebo works as often as actual anti-yeast drugs used in treating systemic candida that results from severely compromised immune systems (and kills people).
Well...To each their own.
I certainly have nothing like chronic fatigue syndrome but experienced a lack of energy and a foggy brain pretty consistently. I found a vitamin supplement combo (B, E, K, Magnesium/calcium, and D, probiotics) that really helped along with increased exercise and water intake. Water is so crucial!"
05/26/2013: Ivy from Tampa, Florida: "The cure to your yeast infections is 3tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar in a 8oz bottle and fill up the rest with distilled or purified water. Mix the two in a douche bottle and douche with it. You may also add 1cup Apple Cider Vinegar to bath water and soak 30mins. May need to do this every 3-4 hrs until symptoms are gone"
06/04/2013: Tina from Ca: "Try organic cranberries..... Cranberries and lots of water help out with the pain and cleanses the bladder. I believe that all our herbs and plant here on earth are for something. Cranberries work well for bladder problems and pain into family. Stay away from soda and acid foods and drinks."
06/05/2013: Plumhappy from Eugene, Oregon: "Cranberry is traditional for bladder infections, however, if one has interstitial cystitis this will only aggravate the situation. Make very sure of your condition first. I did this when I thought I had an infection and it got worse. Cutting acid food of all kinds is crucial to keep IC at bay. That includes coffee and green and black tea, sad to say."
06/06/2013: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa: "While shopping at the grocer a few yrs back, I decided to purchase and try some cranberry juice and see what happens. Approx 6 oz juice on day one, repeat on day two, and by day three get a (at least temporary) boost in health. But it was only a few more days fallowing that my stomach became very upset with the caustic action of the Cranberry that is often reported.In this case of aggravation, the simple alternative is the sugar D-Mannose. After suffering sudden and very high pertension, I was prescribed Lisinopril and got somewhat stable within an hr or two, but was yet hardly even able to walk (i was actually going about the house in a wheelchair) while a family member helped with chores. What better timing than I had just received some D-Mannose in the mail. I knew that my kidneys were at least in-part responsible for the hbp. I took about 2 grms of D-Mannose and within 20 min was out of the wheelchair and going about the house doing whatever needed done.
Fortunately, my digestive system has improved enough that the Cranberry doesn't aggravate near as much as before. Also I use concentrated soft-gels as apposed to otc juice.
As a side-note and in conclusion, I recently read an article recommending Cranberry as part of a regimen to improve urinary health of men suffering from enlarged prostate. The "holistic" approach proves the best in this case."
02/25/2014: Katie from Sydney: "Hi maybe you should be tested for hiv and other sexually transmitted disease and change sexual partners sounds like your catching someone back or have an immune problem. I've definately had die off even before I even added the coconut oil and also took antifungal medication that helped in the past. I have changed my diet and am sticking to it which is the key factor to getting rid of candida. It could take more than two years to get rid of it. Fungus is extremely hard to kill of so I wouldn't expect any dramatic change for a long time rather than overnight."
Jaw Bone Infection
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02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Mary, try organic coconut oil."
02/25/2014: Courtney from Granite Bay, Ca: "I am your age and after a lot of research, I recently tried dry-brushing the skin on my face with a natural bristle brush. You brush section by section, first horizontally, then vertically, then diagonally.I know that it seems counterintuitive to brush the skin on your face, since we've always been told to be gentle with that skin, but the dry-brushing has helped to soften fine lines by plumping the skin (stimulates collagen/cell turnover) and it gives a nice glow. I follow it with a hyaluronic acid serum, then a moisturizer on top of that.
If you go to YouTube and put 'dry brushing face' in the search box, you'll find some tutorials and additional information. I've also found face exercises beneficial. YouTube is a good source for tutorials on those, too.
I am very pleased so far, and am looking forward to increased results with time because I just recently started. With both the brushing and the exercises, diligence is key. I read that it takes 6-8 weeks to see significant improvement, but I've seen improvement already and it's only been about 2 weeks.
For moisture, I know that many here suggest coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc. but I haven't found them to be all that effective on my skin. I have tried many natural oils but always end up returning to a non-natural moisturizer."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I would look into different types of collagen related supplements and 8mg to 12 mg astaxanthin."
02/27/2014: Liz from Boston, Massachusetts: "I've found that ghee works well for both moisturizing and for plumping up fine lines. I make my own; it's so easy and inexpensive.I use it in the evening, so that I don't walk around smelling like a croissant all day. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) :)
I also take a teaspoon of ghee by mouth every day. I use it as a carrier for my turmeric/black pepper/ginger mixture.
I put about a teaspoon of the dry mixture on a soup spoon, then add a teaspoon of ghee and mix it right on the spoon. Then, down the hatch with a water chaser. Good stuff!"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 16:04:36 -0600
We use the term - weight loss - but that should not be the goal. the goal is having the right amount of fat on your body for a given weight. also important is moving the fat from where we usually don't want it to where we want it. so you can technically weigh a lot more but look very trim.If something is working, it will be doing that.
If I had an ideal weight scale, it would measure fat - not muscle. the cheapest and more accurate weight tester I found is grabbing the fat on your body with your hand and seeing how many inches it is.
The worst thing the weight loss propaganda does to people is makes them concentrate on calories and exercise. this leads to large scale failure over the long term.
About two-thirds of the weight loss problem in US is related to the introduction of processed foods and their resulting damage. You ever look at other people's shopping carts at the supermarket - they are mostly dominated by processed food. Those diet foods are very unhealthy also. Soy (unfermented) and corn (both GMO) should be minimized also. The assault on the food supplies just continues and gets worse and most people just don't have any awareness of what is happening."
8-Hour Window
Good news, there's an easy fix! The easiest way to cure Food Addiction is to create an 8-hour window each day in which to eat. This is much easier than it sounds, as you will see when you try it. The problem with eating often is, each time you eat, your body responds with spikes in glucose, requesting more spikes in glucose, becoming a cyclical hunger signal, making you want to eat more, creating the cycle characterized as "food addiction" or "compulsive over-eating".
The key is getting back in touch with your body's natural rhythms and ability to burn fat, which is what your body will do quickly, by just following a few simple guidelines.
If you are eating in a constant state, your body will be forced to remain in a constant state of digestion, and never burn fat. The feeling of burning fat is what your body and brain are missing out on, which is the most energizing and calming feeling your body can experience in a sedentary state. This can be done easily every day, by putting off your first meal of the day, and eating your last meal as early as possible, thus, the 8-hour eating window.
The 11am-7pm timeframe is the best way to do this. If you can eat dinner before 7pm each night, and hold off on eating breakfast until 10:30 or 11am, you will allow your body to flow into a state of "autophagy", which means "eating itself", referring to burning stored fat for energy. If you have never tried this, you will be shocked within a few days at how much better you feel by letting your body "catch up" with the extra calories you have consumed over the years, and the weight will start falling off almost instantaneously.
Try to eat at least 3 meals in the 8-hour period. And if you want to lose weight, in addition to feeling amazing, just calculate calories by multiplying 10 x (your weight). So if your weight is 200lb, you would eat 2, 000 calories, if you weigh 160, it would be 1600 calories, etc. By the way, mental clarity is another side-effect of eating within an 8-hour window, so get ready to solve all your problems!
The key is to drink non-calorie beverages and water outside of the 8-hour window. Black coffee, blueberry iced-tea(unsweetened), and enjoy 3-5 glasses of water to keep the engine runnin' and help your system continue to burn stored fat.
Remember, no matter what shape your body is in, your body is INCREDIBLE. It is aslo the most valuabe instrument you will ever own, and if you just tweak a few things in your eating patterns, you will see just how quickly your body will respond to curing itself.
Remember to enjoy yourself while you cure yourself-- feel free to have ice cream during your 8-hour window, this is not a diet, it's an awesome lifestyle that will change your life forever!
Side note: If you decide to try this, DON'T tell anyone (other than your doctor). Believe it or not, people will try to sabotage you (maybe even the person sitting next to you right now), so keep this as a gift for yourself. Make something up like "I don't feel good" or "I'm just don't feel like it" if people start harrassing you to eat. Then go do something nice for yourself like take a bath, or listen to favorite music, or go on a bike ride, but DON'T explain yourself to ANYONE. (Learning that you don't need to "explain yourself" to someone is another amazing gift for you! ) If people ask why, "I don't know" is always a good, easy, vague response. Either way, you need to fire your eating partner, even if it's just you.
P.S. I lost 16 pounds in 4 weeks with this, and I still ate plenty of ice cream!"
[YEA] 02/09/2014: Amanda from Hillsboro,wi: "Yes the 8 hour eating window works. I started losing weight Oct 14, 2013. I started with eating around 80 bites a day, then went to 8 hour eating windrow and 3 meals a day. The weight started melting off of me. Then I went to a 5 hour eating window for several weeks . As of today Feb 9, 2014 I have lost 65.4 lbs in almost 17 weeks! From 218.2 lbs To 152.8 lbs. 5 feet 6 inch female 31 years old! I counted my bites instead of calories! I hope to return to an 8 hour eating window tommarow God willing! I was very addicted to food and the eating window helps keep one on track better and its good for your health too!!"
[YEA] 02/25/2014: Hermiticwonderer from Los Angeles, Ca: "Just want to say - that is SO awesome & congratulations to you! We really and truly can be the people we want to be :DI struggled with eating issues since a young girl. I have to say that having a "cut off" time for eating in the day/evening helps not only my weight but also my sleeping, my ability to calm down, the "mental shatter" while your falling asleep and definitely helps with the mornings! I do not miss the "food hangover"!!
Just to add - (and since your on earth clinic you probably already know this) if you cut out processed foods, junk foods, processed breads, pastas, etc and replace it with raw veggies, fruit, seeds and nuts you will also begin training yourself to crave the health stuff first. It is much easier to binge on Doritos then cauliflower :)
Some things that helped me - adding a green drink a day + psyllium husk powder, adding a ACV + raw honey tea in the mornings, drinking room temp water all day, drinking fresh root ginger tea all day. <3"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I have been intuitively using an 8 hour window for solid food most of the time. Gives the digestion more rest time and maybe heal. I will say this. If there is something broken internally with metabolism or whatever, weight loss will be a struggle or impossible. when whatever is broken on the inside is fixed then weight loss becomes easy. we don't necessarily know what is broken so experimenting with different things is what we must do. This adds one more thing.We use the term - weight loss - but that should not be the goal. the goal is having the right amount of fat on your body for a given weight. also important is moving the fat from where we usually don't want it to where we want it. so you can technically weigh a lot more but look very trim.If something is working, it will be doing that.
If I had an ideal weight scale, it would measure fat - not muscle. the cheapest and more accurate weight tester I found is grabbing the fat on your body with your hand and seeing how many inches it is.
The worst thing the weight loss propaganda does to people is makes them concentrate on calories and exercise. this leads to large scale failure over the long term.
About two-thirds of the weight loss problem in US is related to the introduction of processed foods and their resulting damage. You ever look at other people's shopping carts at the supermarket - they are mostly dominated by processed food. Those diet foods are very unhealthy also. Soy (unfermented) and corn (both GMO) should be minimized also. The assault on the food supplies just continues and gets worse and most people just don't have any awareness of what is happening."
02/26/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Prioris,Great observations about the term "weight loss." Thanks!
~Mama to Many~"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 16:04:02 -0600
I know that it seems counterintuitive to brush the skin on your face, since we've always been told to be gentle with that skin, but the dry-brushing has helped to soften fine lines by plumping the skin (stimulates collagen/cell turnover) and it gives a nice glow. I follow it with a hyaluronic acid serum, then a moisturizer on top of that.
If you go to YouTube and put 'dry brushing face' in the search box, you'll find some tutorials and additional information. I've also found face exercises beneficial. YouTube is a good source for tutorials on those, too.
I am very pleased so far, and am looking forward to increased results with time because I just recently started. With both the brushing and the exercises, diligence is key. I read that it takes 6-8 weeks to see significant improvement, but I've seen improvement already and it's only been about 2 weeks.
For moisture, I know that many here suggest coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc. but I haven't found them to be all that effective on my skin. I have tried many natural oils but always end up returning to a non-natural moisturizer."
02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Mary, try organic coconut oil."
02/25/2014: Courtney from Granite Bay, Ca: "I am your age and after a lot of research, I recently tried dry-brushing the skin on my face with a natural bristle brush. You brush section by section, first horizontally, then vertically, then diagonally.I know that it seems counterintuitive to brush the skin on your face, since we've always been told to be gentle with that skin, but the dry-brushing has helped to soften fine lines by plumping the skin (stimulates collagen/cell turnover) and it gives a nice glow. I follow it with a hyaluronic acid serum, then a moisturizer on top of that.
If you go to YouTube and put 'dry brushing face' in the search box, you'll find some tutorials and additional information. I've also found face exercises beneficial. YouTube is a good source for tutorials on those, too.
I am very pleased so far, and am looking forward to increased results with time because I just recently started. With both the brushing and the exercises, diligence is key. I read that it takes 6-8 weeks to see significant improvement, but I've seen improvement already and it's only been about 2 weeks.
For moisture, I know that many here suggest coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc. but I haven't found them to be all that effective on my skin. I have tried many natural oils but always end up returning to a non-natural moisturizer."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I would look into different types of collagen related supplements and 8mg to 12 mg astaxanthin."
02/27/2014: Liz from Boston, Massachusetts: "I've found that ghee works well for both moisturizing and for plumping up fine lines. I make my own; it's so easy and inexpensive.I use it in the evening, so that I don't walk around smelling like a croissant all day. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) :)
I also take a teaspoon of ghee by mouth every day. I use it as a carrier for my turmeric/black pepper/ginger mixture.
I put about a teaspoon of the dry mixture on a soup spoon, then add a teaspoon of ghee and mix it right on the spoon. Then, down the hatch with a water chaser. Good stuff!"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 16:03:20 -0600
I had cataract surgery on my left eye six months ago; my eye still a little bit inflamed. I have been seeing the ophthalmologist every other week, the doctor has been prescribing eye drops, but they are not helping. Can you kindly tell me what can I use to stop the inflammation.
Thanks a lot, Victoria"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "For your eye inflammation, mix some baking soda in water and use as eye drops. If you have colloidal silver, you could try that also. There are some anti-inflammation herb capsules you can put in water and heat up on stove to extract whatever and use as eye drops. Experiment with whatever you have on hand."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 16:02:36 -0600
It is a beginning and beats having to survive on fettucine, which is not something I like but when it was the only thing to stay down for a meal, what the heck.
Morgana"
I have studied holistic health for most of my life and this medicine and its effects have worried me over the last almost two years. I am in a situation now where I cannot afford to buy it any longer either.
My concern is that I don't know what to take to cure the problem because of my symptoms so if anyone here has similar please let me know. People here have great success with ACV and Baking Soda. I did use baking soda before the problem got so intense I had to have the gastroscopy.
By the way at this time two years ago I did a 12 day fast on just organic aloe vera juice from whole foods I was that desperate. After that I decided to have a some organic veggie juice thinking I could now drink it and OMG it didn't last a moment in my system. Definitely it did me no good at all.
I throw up even water, but some foods surprisingly I discovered by accident I can keep down. I.e. pasta with cheese sauce, which I hadn't eaten for thirty years not liking it prior, but it was served for dinner where I was visiting. This blew my mind when I realized I wouldn't be throwing it up. Hard boiled eggs with a bit of butter I can keep down too. Veggies I can't keep down either. The problem I have is that I can't get past a mouthful of ACV without it coming right back up. I also have a greens organic, and a non-GMO, non-dairy, non-Soy protein powder full of good healthy ingredients, which I used to blend with coconut milk, and now I can't drink that either since stopping the PPI. I can only now drink little sips of water otherwise it comes back. Teas all come back after a mouthful. Coffee is out of the question entirely.
There must be a way to cure this and heal it holistically. I refuse to believe I have to live with this Dexilant which I read increases the possibility of stomach cancer if taking it over a long period. I also have osteoporosis before taking Dexilant and it must be even worse now. I feel that I am in very critical condition.
Another thing that happens is that the moment I even go to take my medication for hypothyroid and reach for the glass of water that my upper abdomen immediately swells and hurts and I haven't even had a sip yet. I sleep practically sitting up and now I also have developed this cough that causes me to throw up. I bring up a very clear gel like substance, not a mucous that is thick and then up comes my water or anything I have taken.
I would appreciate hearing back about this. Thanks."
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: It's obvious that the acid factor of ACV irritates your Esophagus, so do drop that. I had the same problem w/ the thyroid meds. One of the noticeable symptoms of hypothyroid is reduced ability to swallow, which implies that the esophagus is directly effected by insufficient thyroid hormones.So, the only way to bring about a fix is to treat the esophagus and the thyroid simultaneously. Starting w/ the thyroid, take the magnet on your refrigerator and apply it to your thyroid glands for 10 min 2x day. Switch from levothyroxine to Armor Thyroid meds w/ any luck from your MD. supplement Lugols Iodine (much info here on E.C.). Take 500mg L-Tyrosine 1x day for two weeks and then up to 500mg 2x day. At this point you may need to split the thyroid med in half but you will need thyroid checked for sure. Vit-E is very good for protecting all the glands and thus improving their function. The best form of E is mixed Tocopherols & Tocotrienols. Coconut Oil is also very good for the T.
Now for the esophagus. Burst 5,000 iu Vit-A in mouth and let it slowly drain down the throat or take small spoon of Cod Liver Oil by mouth using the slow method. 15 minutes later suck an Elderberry/Zinc Lozenge. These two should both strengthen and soothe. DGL form of Licorice will also help soothe."
02/22/2014: Jos from Thailand: "Hi to Morganaspirit in Vancouver,Sorry to hear of your gastric problems, have you tried mixing food thickeners to your food and drinks? There is a product called Nestagel which works quite well and helps to keep food down and without irritation, I believe it's mainly used for children and elderly people but maybe worth experimenting with, also try to research other food thickners which maybe of benefit to you as they coat the lining of your osophegus, and help to stop the burning sensation. Weight loss may be a problem for you and when desperate try Bengers food, another "old fashioned" food for invalids and children with hiatal hernia problems. Keeping yourself raised up when sleeping is essential for your oesophageal probs and I really wish you well. I had a young baby with reflux and I learnt about thickening food to keep it down in her stomach, I appreciate you are not an invalid but thought some of these ideas may help you."
02/22/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Morganaspirit: I am not sure I can assist you but I can try. I am not sure why but I like to study the food plants, animals, and well people eat. After reading your sad story of so much suffering I am surprised you are alive. The reason I say this is because the cells require proper nourishment. When they don't get enough they eat the tissues. I believe this to be the root cause. I was very sick. The way I got well was to experiment. This is hard for a sick person to do so maybe getting a loved one to assist would be a good idea. Vegetables want to be fertilizer for the seeds so they make some of their nutrients hard to digest to discourage herbivores from eating them. Fruits want to be eaten for herbivores to propagate the seeds. Their nutrients are easily digested. The most easily digestible fruit is banana. Whole Foods has whole trade bananas. These are organically grown but lack the costly certification. They are also the least costly. You can try raw wildflower honey. Avocados are also easy to digest. Because you were able to eat cheese, eggs, and butter, you can try raw vital pastured eggs, raw grass fed hamburger, colostrum, and raw cheese. You can try black chia seeds. They are less costly online. Brown Cow plain yogurt might be beneficial. In my opinion you are going to have to find some raw organic and grass fed whole foods that you can eat so you can recover."
02/23/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morganspirit, sounds like you have to have well-cooked, easily digestible foods for right now. Look into Traditional Chinese Medicine for your situation."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you Timh from Ky, and Somewhere, Europe, jos from Thailand, and Mike 62 from Denver. I appreciate all of your input. I do love avocadoes Mike, bananas I am very allergic to unfortunately cause I love them.Jos, food thickeners sound like a very good idea because they coat the lining of the esophagus. I have never heard of them so will research as soon as I get off this site.
Timh, I do take desiccated thyroid. Learned that one a few years ago! But you are right that the thyroid seems to be mixed up with everything. I never thought of using a magnet on my thyroid but what a great idea. I need a lot of thyroid every day so it would be amazing to split it in half. I will certainly try the Vit-A. Does it taste fishy though? Thinking of Cod liver oil you mentioned. Aside from the esophagus problems I have a very difficult time with smells, especially fishy smell. I can't even walk into a fish store without throwing up. I take coconut oil and use it for cooking. Perhaps that would work as well as Vit-A?
I am going to try these ideas you all gave me today, and Somewhere, Europe you suggested TCM. I went to a naturopath who taught at the TCM college here and he was useless. His big plan was for me buy his protein powder and take that daily as well as pay him $150/hr for his consult. He gave me a sample and it upchucked within five minutes so I am a bit distrustful of TCM if that is the recommendation. I like the ones I got here today and will use them all. Thank you."
02/23/2014: Gtcharlie from Los Angeles, Ca: "Hi Morganaspirit,I want to chip in a few points here that is away from the main drag; not with the intention to negate what others say, but to add a different approach that is more in line with the Eastern philosophy.
1. Avoid all cold drinks or foods, including raw foods taken cold, even water from the refrigerator! Because you don't want to excite your stomach needlessly. And you don't want to lower your body's core temperature suddenly either. So, please stick to foods/drinks that are a bit above lukewarm, but way lower than to burn your mouth.
2. Use ginger as often as you can, but not as much as you can. Large amount of ginger can upset your stomach, in moderation, it can curb regurgitation effectively. Ginger can also warm your stomach up which will reduce the excessive stomach acid. GERD can be from insufficient stomach acid in some cases especially with the elderlies. But judging from what you say about the ACV, it is not your case.
The best way is to take a ginger tea with honey daily - thinly cut fresh ginger 15-20 slices with skin on, add in 8 oz of water and bring it to boil. Remove from the stove and stir in one t-spoon honey. Press the ginger slices a bit while mixing the honey in with the spoon. Save half of this concoction in a thermal for later use. Sip this tea slowly as hot as you can take. Inhale the steam through your nostrils while waiting for the tea to cool down a bit. By doing so, you can warm up your upper chest. Reheat the rest from the thermal a few hours later to finish it. Less in amount and more in frequency is the key to avoid burdening your stomach. If you can take in the whole 8 oz once, then brew a second cup later.
Always add some fresh ginger in your cooking. Ginger candy is a good choice for snacking.
If you like cinnamon, you can use it to replace ginger at times or supplementing the ginger tea with it. But be sure to buy the cinnamon from Indonesia or Srilanka since it is for medicinal purpose. You will find them at Amazon.
3. Take liquid foods for easy digestion; thick soap like beef and barley is a good choice. Avoid foods that cause bloating and gas. Chew slowly and longer when eating solid foods to let the saliva to breakdown carbohydrates. Proper nutrition plays a big part in one's health!
4. Rub your stomach often: use both hands to rub your stomach (right under the sternum) with a little pressure. Move in a circular motion and reverse the direction alternatively. Give it a few pumps if you can in between. Do it before meals and relax your stomach muscle by practicing deep breathing at times. You need to strengthen your diaphram.
If these help and when situation is stabilized, you can start making fresh potato juice in the morning and drink it with an empty stomach - at least half an hour prior to breakfast. Add an apple if you like. But be sure to leave both the potato and apple out of the refrigerator to prevent taking in cold liquid in the morning!
Potato juicing is good to curb cancer cells, and for any ulcer too! A very popular remedy in Asia popularized by a welknown Japanese monk.
All the best to you!"
02/24/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: Yes, the Cod Liver Oil or Vit-A smells like fish, so you will need to fallow it directly w/ Elder/Zinc Lozenge. The Iodine/L-Tyrosine will likely be necessary in improving your T hormone status for the short-term until you do the Magnet, Vit-A, and Zinc begin protecting and healing the Thyroid. All this has worked for me as my last test showed normal without having previously taken levothyroxine for many weeks.Do report your results for others."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morganaspirit,Really, my heart goes out to you...you have suffered so much.
I love what the EC writers have posted and have two observations:
First, to add to the previous suggestions on what you might be able to eat, have you tried papaya? The raw fruit, not the capsules but the fruit itself?
Papaya is an amazing fruit packed with enzymatic power... soothing to the lining of irritated throat and stomach...it is wonderfully anti nausea. What ever is causing the problem, you certainly are deficient in enzymes and a good starting point is papaya. Start with the real fruit as I said and after eliminating the tiny black seeds (a good source of anti parasites) just take a tiny bit on spoon and eat. If no negative reaction, try a quarter teaspoon and so forth until you can eat a quarter cup at a time. If you can tolerate that much, the Papaya will start its wonder working impact on your system.
Second, I'd love to more find out the CAUSE of what you are experiencing. I understand the Barretts Syndrome diagnosis, but I mean before that. Here is my point; We are dealing with (largely) what you can eat now. That is vital because clearly there is a sense of urgency here...and that is why I threw in my suggestion of papaya. But all these suggestions, by and large, speak to the symptoms and do not address the cause.
I guessed one possible cause as an enzyme deficiency issue but that might more fit the symptom category.
Would you please give us some more information on the history of what led to this problem. I'm always wondering at causation and try to get to the bottom line cause for the symptoms. Often I find an infection that preceded symptoms, for instance.
So...could you give a brief history... like this; when did you first begin experiencing difficulties...from youth? From birth? Do you suspect genetic? As I said, I've often found a viral/ fungal ... pathogenic trigger, and hence "basis" for the symptoms.
Here's a typical story line...maybe it fits and maybe not: Victim X suffers from nausea for past five years. X first experienced illness four months after visiting Caribbean islands. Doctors cannot find cause. Possible answer; Parasites.
Or: Victim Y suffers from endocrine system issues with manifold symptoms. Six months prior to symptoms, suffered from severe case of strep. Possible cause; virus.
So, anything you can tell us as to cause...more of the history can help with underlying cause solution."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you GT Charlie. I discovered this thing about not having cold water this week and on the weekend when it finally hit me that my overnight lukewarm water had not bothered me at all to drink it. Usually I have it ice cold from the frig and so you are right on there. I will slice up my ginger and try that again. I use to make fresh ginger tea. I used to also keep fresh slices in my water jug to sip on as well and I see it is time to do this again. Cinammon too I love so will make sure it comes from Indonesia or Sri Lanka. Thanks so much for your input.Unfortunately I used the PPI Dexilant to get through the past two years and it is only when I realized it was also not working as well, that is when I knew I had to tackle this problem now. My problem is that I work 12 hr days and alot of that time is sitting at my desk and that is a problem too with that pressure. I spose I can heat up the ginger tea in the microwave at work although I hate to use it. Thanks again."
02/24/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Hee, hee, Morganspirit, I learn the Chinese stuff that I want, off the Internet and from books. I take the info that seems right to me and experiment with that. Why pay? Having said that, I did go to a practitioner to get the Chinese "diagnosis name" of my condition (according to them. I always take it all with a grain or two of Celtic Salt :))."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Canada: "Timh from Ky, I cannot tolerate even the smell of fish oil. I would be heaving before getting the capsule close to my throat but I was thinking that perhaps coconut oil might be a good substitute. Thanks. By the way I have a very sensitive stomach. Even happening upon a dead fly makes me vomit.To Dave:
Dave thanks for your reply. I do love papaya, but so many fruits made me throw up in the past three and half years that I gave up on them. I will try your suggestion with just a tiny amount at a time. I do know it has powerful enzymes and if it stays down, it would be wonderful to eat it as much as I can keep down.
As to the beginning of this problem, acid reflux began about five years ago at age 59, but it wasn't until the end of 2010 that it began to be uncomfortable.Up to the acid reflux beginning the only time I had stomach problems was my horrid reaction to smelly things or revolting looking things and then anything I had in my gut came up. I was one of those women during pregnancy who vomited the whole nine months.
Actually interesting you bring up possible parasites as a source cause I used to wonder about that. The day it began I had bought myself a frozen lasagne to have for a quick meal after work. I had just begun my present job the month before, twelve hour days and was too exhausted to stand at the counter and cook after a long day beginning at 4am.
This is the first time in my life I bought one of those dinners, since my preference is more holistic and fresh food, but I did and that night I did have a violent reaction like a stomach flu which continued for several days and then I caught a bad cold which turned into a bad chest infection. The chest infections have been recurring over the years since childhood when hay fever first hit. It always changed to chest infections which lasted for weeks and weeks and that could be asthma I found out recently.
Since I never got stomach flu's ever, it has only now occurred to me that it might not have been the lasagne at all and that it could have been a bad flu beginning with stomach and turning into the chest infection.
Back to the problem. I was coughing very much, pulling tummy muscles when the problem began late 2010, and this continued for weeks. After that finally ended the real problem began in my stomach and upper abdomen. Those weeks of horrid gut wrenching coughing must have caused the hiatal hernia. It just got worse and worse and my doctor sent me on the rounds to have ultrasounds on every organ and nothing showed up and finally after a year of this and being in exactly the state where I am now, I insisted on seeing a gastroenterologist and then had that diagnosis after a gastroscopy and biopsy, and told I had to take Dexilant for life.
It was such a relief to have a solution that I happily took those pills and then when I found out just how dire it is to the system it began to make me very uneasy and to want to find another way. I really didn't think there was another way until finding this forum...so then I have hope.
Another thing that happens when I have anything at all, even lukewarm water my tummy area around my belly button as a centre swells and hurts immediately and as I said it can begin before I even have the liquid or food.
I remembered giving my dog Slippery Elm when he had digestive issues and am thinking that perhaps that might be a good thing to drink prior to eating anything or drinking anything even water. Funny how I never thought of that before.
By the way, my job hours are very stressful for me and I have been doing it almost four years and that may have alot to do with it too. Next year I will be 65 and can retire so maybe that will make a difference if I can get through this without it all turning to esophageal cancer.
Thanks for your input and for any further suggestions."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello again Morgana (spirit) from Canada,So excited to get your follow up post!
The "history" of your disease ... and yours is indeed a disease is now much better understood by your last post.
You gave a great lay out of the key events and here's what I think given the evidence concerning the issue of causation and what is underlying the symptoms.
As you said, the day it all started (building on some reflux already present but not the main issue)... was the uncooked lasagna. I gather it was either under cooked or just let get to room temp from frozen condition. Couldn't tell which, but got for sure that it was not cooked.
Whatever... the problem was in the Lasagna. What was in it? Do you recall? And I doubt if you'd remember but do you recall if it was an imported variety. THAT would really give us a good slap on the huntin' dog's back if we knew it was a Mediterranean import. (Lots of Montezuma's revenge...yes, the Mediterranean... not just Mexico.) Amoeba, e coli, etc etc. are possible. Look up Amoebic dysentery on Wikipedia. The one of some interest is the "trophozoite" which is an amoeba that is non cyst forming. That amoeba produces symptoms without hurting liver. You need the BEST parasitologist to exclude the possibility that you do NOT have such infection.
Montezuma's revenge can be either viral or bacterial.
And let's just talk "mundane" infections caused by a good ol' American virus, fungus or bacteria.
You got the infection .... whatever it is from the lasagna. "The day it started..." that was the uncooked lasagna day.
What to do? Well, if me, I've already said I'd get a parasitologist to eliminate the possibility of parasites... and next...if not parasites, go to the old standbys to kill infections....Colloidal Silver (I now do a little dance at the mention of CS ... no doubt the Cherokee blood that runs through me).
I'd take a lot...I would be drinking at least six teaspoons of CS daily on empty stomach (which is what you usually have). I wrote a little article that the EC staff was nice enough to post under "Colloidal Silver" ...the Remedies section. I think mine's the second one.
So my contention is that CS will kill the underlying infection, if the experts say the problem is not a parasite. There are "natural" parasite killers covered in Earth Clinic, but after reading the autobiography "MD" which is about a parasitologist, I think I'd first get a determination of whether the cause just might be parasitic.
But do look at the Wiki article on Amoebic dysentery I mentioned and see if the symptoms discussed with the two types of amoeba relate to your problem. If not.... turn to virus killers....eg.....CS."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morgana,A paragraph I failed to put into the long post just below this one....yes a bad infection as you mentioned from childhood could be the cause... Still....either would indicate an infection as the cause. And that's what we're looking for ... the cause."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "hi Dave,The thing is I had a frozen lasagna probably McCains or something like that and of course I heated it in the oven for the requisite time.
Good idea on CS. Have some in my fridge. Thanks for your input. Morgana"
02/25/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "An update. Just wanted to tell you who contributed to my question that I am able to hold down avocado and papaya, so today for work I made myself a little salad with those, but I also added raw zucchini which I knew would be okay and I use the spiralizer to make it look like spaghetti. I also added raw apple and voila I have kept it all down and no heartburn.It is a beginning and beats having to survive on fettucine, which is not something I like but when it was the only thing to stay down for a meal, what the heck.
Morgana"
02/26/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morgana, thanks for coming back to report. We're delighted at the good news, it's a very good start!"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Many things can bring on a hiatal hernia...most common is while sitting- bending at the waist, as if to tie shoes. This will force the stomach into the diaphram. When the irritation begins things to avoid, temporally, (for 7 to 10 days) would be tomato sauce, spicy foods, COFFEE, too much ruffage as raw veggies, rice, and alcohol.What to eat would be stewed veggies, pasta-no tomato sauce. Cream sauce and the like is OK. Mainly soft foods. They do not have to be bland just not spicy. This will also cut down on acid reflux. And indigestion.
If this becomes chronic, a visit to a chiropractor that practices kenisiology Is in order. I do not know if ACV helps with this as I have not had to try it as yet."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 16:01:54 -0600
I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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02/25/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Jewel51,I read your post and think, "Lobelia! " It is an anti-spasmodic herb and we have used it with success in our house for a number of things, though not for gall bladder issues. We have used it for asthma and for suspected appendicitis.
You can buy the loose herb and make a tincture of an oil infusion. I would use this externally over the area where you have pain. It absorbs readily into the skin. You may be able to buy a tincture or oil. I can give more detail on making the infusion or tincture if you want to try that. You may also be able to take it internally and have it work, but be careful as a small amount of lobelia is a relaxant and too much is a stimulant. If your body is toxic, a small amount internally can cause vomiting.
I also would not be surprised to see a charcoal poultice or castor oil pack help you in this situation. I have used both for pain in the gall bladder area as well as for other things. There is information about both on this website.
Do you know if any foods are irritating your gall bladder? I know certain ones do mine, especially coffee, sadly!
Let us know what you find out. I hope you get relief soon.
~Mama to Many~"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Good information about the two types of gallbladder attacks. It is easy to just assume stone related. Won't milk thistle get the bile flowing?"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Jewels51: To strengthen the Liver/Gallbladder and increase the flow of bile take Triple Strengthen Lecithin and Dr. Christopher's Liver/Gallbladder Formula. There are many herbal suppliers w/ different names to this formula. The one I used to take was called Liveron. An internet search should produce some good results, but if not report back and I can give you the list of the home made formula I use.I also occasionally use lemon Water to help open things up down there."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 15:36:05 -0600
I feel like the answer to curing my high blood pressure is by doing a toxic/metal cleanse, a liver and gallbladder cleanse and cleaning up my diet. I don't use table salt, but pink Himalayan salt and I try my best to avoid processed foods. I do green juices to help alkalize and take spirulina in small doses.
But as I said, I am afraid that doing a cleanse will also remove the medication that keeps my blood pressure down. Though I think the cleanses will cure the blood pressure problem, I worry that my bp will spike severely if either I don't take my medication and to the cleanse...or even take the medication while doing the cleanse. What advice and/or information can you give me regarding this? I'd like to clean out my body in the safest way. I am suspecting I have a slight candida problem as I have daily flatulence...not a normal level of it...it's alot and sometimes very, very smelly. I also have a hard time losing weight."
02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Shellie, before doing a cleanse, you might want to try "cleaning up" your diet. That might be the safest "cleanse"."
02/25/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Shellie: Mmsg is right. Eating the best food the right way nourishes the cells and detoxes the poisons. Active nutrients lower the energies of the pathogens. When the energy of the cells is higher they zap the pathogens with electricity. There is a video of a woman who lowered her bp from 145/90 to 125/80 while taking her bp meds in 5 days. Sick fat people tend to diet. This is not wise. Increasing the metabolism is the solution. When I was in your shoes all the emotions I felt were negative, confusion, worry, and fear. Today I feel better than in my entire life. I take 80% raw carbs, activated barley, home brewed water kefir from whole sugars and whole flours, raw wildflower honey, and fruit, mainly banana, 5% fiber, 10% raw protein, and 5%/g of fats, 1/2 coconut oil and 1/2 flax oil. I take all organic and grass fed. I take the carbs, oils, and proteins together every hour with water."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 15:35:46 -0600
02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Mary, try organic coconut oil."
02/25/2014: Courtney from Granite Bay, Ca: "I am your age and after a lot of research, I recently tried dry-brushing the skin on my face with a natural bristle brush. You brush section by section, first horizontally, then vertically, then diagonally.I know that it seems counterintuitive to brush the skin on your face, since we've always been told to be gentle with that skin, but the dry-brushing has helped to soften fine lines by plumping the skin (stimulates collagen/cell turnover) and it gives a nice glow. I follow it with a hyaluronic acid serum, then a moisturizer on top of that.
If you go to YouTube and put 'dry brushing face' in the search box, you'll find some tutorials and additional information. I've also found face exercises beneficial. YouTube is a good source for tutorials on those, too.
I am very pleased so far, and am looking forward to increased results with time because I just recently started. With both the brushing and the exercises, diligence is key. I read that it takes 6-8 weeks to see significant improvement, but I've seen improvement already and it's only been about 2 weeks.
For moisture, I know that many here suggest coconut oil, jojoba oil, etc. but I haven't found them to be all that effective on my skin. I have tried many natural oils but always end up returning to a non-natural moisturizer."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I would look into different types of collagen related supplements and 8mg to 12 mg astaxanthin."
02/27/2014: Liz from Boston, Massachusetts: "I've found that ghee works well for both moisturizing and for plumping up fine lines. I make my own; it's so easy and inexpensive.I use it in the evening, so that I don't walk around smelling like a croissant all day. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.) :)
I also take a teaspoon of ghee by mouth every day. I use it as a carrier for my turmeric/black pepper/ginger mixture.
I put about a teaspoon of the dry mixture on a soup spoon, then add a teaspoon of ghee and mix it right on the spoon. Then, down the hatch with a water chaser. Good stuff!"
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02/25/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Sonja, rice (or rice baby cereal), millet, quinoa (ground or not before cooking), any veggie (pureed or not), fruit, eggs, meat, chicken, etc. For example, you can blend some chicken with veggies from a well cooked chicken soup, for a complete meal for him."
02/27/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Sonja,Would your nephew happen to still be breastfeeding? Toddlers can be completely sustained on breastmilk alone. My oldest child was unable to take any solids in until he was 16 months old. All of his nutrition came from human milk and he was and still is quite healthy. (He is 20 now.) The only concern for a one year old tends to be that breastmilk is low in iron. A half a teaspoon of blackstrap molasses twice a day would be some assurance there against low iron.
If not, goat milk might be an option for him. (It is much less likely to cause allergy issues than cows milk.) Raw would be ideal, but not accessible to most people, and you would want to know that it had been handled properly.
Even if there is no option for milk, he should be able to get plenty of nutrition other ways. Because of observed dairy sensitivities, I have been very slow to introduce milk and dairy to my toddlers. One of my children was weaned at a year and I did not give her dairy. But she did very well on grains, meats, fruits and vegetables.
There are lots of grains other than wheat that can be used for carbohydrates instead of wheat, as Mmsg mentions - quinoa, millet, and rice. My toddlers have all loved oatmeal.
Does he do well with fruits and vegetables? Meats and eggs? (Though sometimes children with allergies avoid or limit eggs, I believe?)
If he does not have molars yet, a baby food grinder or small food processor will make it easier to get food mashed up for him to consume.
Let us know what you find that works well for him!
~Mama to Many~"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 14:29:13 -0600
I read your post and think, "Lobelia! " It is an anti-spasmodic herb and we have used it with success in our house for a number of things, though not for gall bladder issues. We have used it for asthma and for suspected appendicitis.
You can buy the loose herb and make a tincture of an oil infusion. I would use this externally over the area where you have pain. It absorbs readily into the skin. You may be able to buy a tincture or oil. I can give more detail on making the infusion or tincture if you want to try that. You may also be able to take it internally and have it work, but be careful as a small amount of lobelia is a relaxant and too much is a stimulant. If your body is toxic, a small amount internally can cause vomiting.
I also would not be surprised to see a charcoal poultice or castor oil pack help you in this situation. I have used both for pain in the gall bladder area as well as for other things. There is information about both on this website.
Do you know if any foods are irritating your gall bladder? I know certain ones do mine, especially coffee, sadly!
Let us know what you find out. I hope you get relief soon.
~Mama to Many~"
02/25/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Jewel51,I read your post and think, "Lobelia! " It is an anti-spasmodic herb and we have used it with success in our house for a number of things, though not for gall bladder issues. We have used it for asthma and for suspected appendicitis.
You can buy the loose herb and make a tincture of an oil infusion. I would use this externally over the area where you have pain. It absorbs readily into the skin. You may be able to buy a tincture or oil. I can give more detail on making the infusion or tincture if you want to try that. You may also be able to take it internally and have it work, but be careful as a small amount of lobelia is a relaxant and too much is a stimulant. If your body is toxic, a small amount internally can cause vomiting.
I also would not be surprised to see a charcoal poultice or castor oil pack help you in this situation. I have used both for pain in the gall bladder area as well as for other things. There is information about both on this website.
Do you know if any foods are irritating your gall bladder? I know certain ones do mine, especially coffee, sadly!
Let us know what you find out. I hope you get relief soon.
~Mama to Many~"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Good information about the two types of gallbladder attacks. It is easy to just assume stone related. Won't milk thistle get the bile flowing?"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Jewels51: To strengthen the Liver/Gallbladder and increase the flow of bile take Triple Strengthen Lecithin and Dr. Christopher's Liver/Gallbladder Formula. There are many herbal suppliers w/ different names to this formula. The one I used to take was called Liveron. An internet search should produce some good results, but if not report back and I can give you the list of the home made formula I use.I also occasionally use lemon Water to help open things up down there."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 12:37:24 -0600
I struggled with eating issues since a young girl. I have to say that having a "cut off" time for eating in the day/evening helps not only my weight but also my sleeping, my ability to calm down, the "mental shatter" while your falling asleep and definitely helps with the mornings! I do not miss the "food hangover"!!
Just to add - (and since your on earth clinic you probably already know this) if you cut out processed foods, junk foods, processed breads, pastas, etc and replace it with raw veggies, fruit, seeds and nuts you will also begin training yourself to crave the health stuff first. It is much easier to binge on Doritos then cauliflower :)
Some things that helped me - adding a green drink a day + psyllium husk powder, adding a ACV + raw honey tea in the mornings, drinking room temp water all day, drinking fresh root ginger tea all day. <3"
8-Hour Window
Good news, there's an easy fix! The easiest way to cure Food Addiction is to create an 8-hour window each day in which to eat. This is much easier than it sounds, as you will see when you try it. The problem with eating often is, each time you eat, your body responds with spikes in glucose, requesting more spikes in glucose, becoming a cyclical hunger signal, making you want to eat more, creating the cycle characterized as "food addiction" or "compulsive over-eating".
The key is getting back in touch with your body's natural rhythms and ability to burn fat, which is what your body will do quickly, by just following a few simple guidelines.
If you are eating in a constant state, your body will be forced to remain in a constant state of digestion, and never burn fat. The feeling of burning fat is what your body and brain are missing out on, which is the most energizing and calming feeling your body can experience in a sedentary state. This can be done easily every day, by putting off your first meal of the day, and eating your last meal as early as possible, thus, the 8-hour eating window.
The 11am-7pm timeframe is the best way to do this. If you can eat dinner before 7pm each night, and hold off on eating breakfast until 10:30 or 11am, you will allow your body to flow into a state of "autophagy", which means "eating itself", referring to burning stored fat for energy. If you have never tried this, you will be shocked within a few days at how much better you feel by letting your body "catch up" with the extra calories you have consumed over the years, and the weight will start falling off almost instantaneously.
Try to eat at least 3 meals in the 8-hour period. And if you want to lose weight, in addition to feeling amazing, just calculate calories by multiplying 10 x (your weight). So if your weight is 200lb, you would eat 2, 000 calories, if you weigh 160, it would be 1600 calories, etc. By the way, mental clarity is another side-effect of eating within an 8-hour window, so get ready to solve all your problems!
The key is to drink non-calorie beverages and water outside of the 8-hour window. Black coffee, blueberry iced-tea(unsweetened), and enjoy 3-5 glasses of water to keep the engine runnin' and help your system continue to burn stored fat.
Remember, no matter what shape your body is in, your body is INCREDIBLE. It is aslo the most valuabe instrument you will ever own, and if you just tweak a few things in your eating patterns, you will see just how quickly your body will respond to curing itself.
Remember to enjoy yourself while you cure yourself-- feel free to have ice cream during your 8-hour window, this is not a diet, it's an awesome lifestyle that will change your life forever!
Side note: If you decide to try this, DON'T tell anyone (other than your doctor). Believe it or not, people will try to sabotage you (maybe even the person sitting next to you right now), so keep this as a gift for yourself. Make something up like "I don't feel good" or "I'm just don't feel like it" if people start harrassing you to eat. Then go do something nice for yourself like take a bath, or listen to favorite music, or go on a bike ride, but DON'T explain yourself to ANYONE. (Learning that you don't need to "explain yourself" to someone is another amazing gift for you! ) If people ask why, "I don't know" is always a good, easy, vague response. Either way, you need to fire your eating partner, even if it's just you.
P.S. I lost 16 pounds in 4 weeks with this, and I still ate plenty of ice cream!"
[YEA] 02/09/2014: Amanda from Hillsboro,wi: "Yes the 8 hour eating window works. I started losing weight Oct 14, 2013. I started with eating around 80 bites a day, then went to 8 hour eating windrow and 3 meals a day. The weight started melting off of me. Then I went to a 5 hour eating window for several weeks . As of today Feb 9, 2014 I have lost 65.4 lbs in almost 17 weeks! From 218.2 lbs To 152.8 lbs. 5 feet 6 inch female 31 years old! I counted my bites instead of calories! I hope to return to an 8 hour eating window tommarow God willing! I was very addicted to food and the eating window helps keep one on track better and its good for your health too!!"
[YEA] 02/25/2014: Hermiticwonderer from Los Angeles, Ca: "Just want to say - that is SO awesome & congratulations to you! We really and truly can be the people we want to be :DI struggled with eating issues since a young girl. I have to say that having a "cut off" time for eating in the day/evening helps not only my weight but also my sleeping, my ability to calm down, the "mental shatter" while your falling asleep and definitely helps with the mornings! I do not miss the "food hangover"!!
Just to add - (and since your on earth clinic you probably already know this) if you cut out processed foods, junk foods, processed breads, pastas, etc and replace it with raw veggies, fruit, seeds and nuts you will also begin training yourself to crave the health stuff first. It is much easier to binge on Doritos then cauliflower :)
Some things that helped me - adding a green drink a day + psyllium husk powder, adding a ACV + raw honey tea in the mornings, drinking room temp water all day, drinking fresh root ginger tea all day. <3"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I have been intuitively using an 8 hour window for solid food most of the time. Gives the digestion more rest time and maybe heal. I will say this. If there is something broken internally with metabolism or whatever, weight loss will be a struggle or impossible. when whatever is broken on the inside is fixed then weight loss becomes easy. we don't necessarily know what is broken so experimenting with different things is what we must do. This adds one more thing.We use the term - weight loss - but that should not be the goal. the goal is having the right amount of fat on your body for a given weight. also important is moving the fat from where we usually don't want it to where we want it. so you can technically weigh a lot more but look very trim.If something is working, it will be doing that.
If I had an ideal weight scale, it would measure fat - not muscle. the cheapest and more accurate weight tester I found is grabbing the fat on your body with your hand and seeing how many inches it is.
The worst thing the weight loss propaganda does to people is makes them concentrate on calories and exercise. this leads to large scale failure over the long term.
About two-thirds of the weight loss problem in US is related to the introduction of processed foods and their resulting damage. You ever look at other people's shopping carts at the supermarket - they are mostly dominated by processed food. Those diet foods are very unhealthy also. Soy (unfermented) and corn (both GMO) should be minimized also. The assault on the food supplies just continues and gets worse and most people just don't have any awareness of what is happening."
02/26/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Prioris,Great observations about the term "weight loss." Thanks!
~Mama to Many~"
Food Allergies in Infant
Tue, 25 Feb 14 12:36:48 -0600
Seeking Wrinkle and Anti-Aging Remedies
Tue, 25 Feb 14 11:42:57 -0600
Tue, 25 Feb 14 11:28:27 -0600
I am adding OP to my healthcare regimine and will report back!"
Based on all feedback received for oil pulling so far (as seen on your oil pulling pages), I have created the following list of cures by oil-pulling using various oils:
1. Sesame Oil:
Cleared vaginal infections, got rid of tooth/gum/mouth/bad-breath problems, tightened loose teeth, heart felt better, depression replaced by happy thoughts, better vision (eg. Colors become vivid), no underarm odor, reduces cravings and helps de-addiction, alertness increased, pimples decreased, cured Temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD, TMJ or TMD), moisturized skin, healed dry/cracked heels, hair grew back on bald spot on head, sinuses cleared, did not catch colds/flu, brought color to cheeks/complexion looks healthier, cured the keratosis pilaris on upper arms, more energetic, didn't get allergies, looked 10 years younger, open pores on face closed, wrinkles disappeared, swollen glands under neck became normal for HIV+ person, anaemia cured within 1 month, lipase enzyme levels brought back to normal within 1 month, bloating/edema gone, decreased fibromyalgia pain, got deep sleep/ insomnia cured, dark circle around eyes decreased, cured hangover after alcohol consumption, digestion improved, back pain decreased, neck pain decreased, joint pain decreased, hives cured in 2 weeks, periods was not painful, no cramping during periods, experienced colon cleansing, eczema disappeared, skin glowed, stopped a headache, faded age spots, healed canker sores, subsided PMS, eliminated asthama, lost weight, cured diarrhea.
2. Sunflower oil
Got rid of tooth/gum/mouth/bad-breath problems, teeth whiter and sensitive condition corrected, sinus cleared, cured toothache, blood cholesterol profile got balanced when oil-pulled first thing in the morning, postmenopausal hot flushes decreased, wake up refreshed, hair grew thicker, think clearly, swollen lymph nodes reduced, energy increased (many people said), reduced dependence on caffeine-oil pulling gave a huge energy rush-oil pulling twice a day eliminated 2 cups of coffee from that day, blood circulation improved, cold hands and feet became warmer, cravings decreased, skin looks great, eliminates dry eyes, clears out sugar from body faster, pulmonary fibrosis cured, cancer cured, stopped vaginal discharge, clearer breathing, better sleep, lungs not congested anymore, coughing eliminated, herpes simplex virus eliminated from body, cold sores and canker sores healed, cleared allergies, hangover (due to alcohol) eliminated, lost weight especially around lower abdomen, lost 4 pounds in 20 days by oil pulling twice a day, gave sound sleep, body aches and strains gone, fatigue gone, irregular periods became regular, ear itch gone, clearer eyes and clearer vision, indigestion problems and gases eliminated, cracked heels healed, dark circle under eyes eliminated.
3. Olive Oil
Better mouth health, jaw pain gone, sinus cleared, finger nails grew fast and had white tips, hair grew fast and is thick, better energy, better mental clarity, mood elevation (many people said this), cracked heels got healed, softer hair, softer skin, no wheezing or coughing, eyes stopped feeling itchy or dry, beard got thicker and softer, de-addicted from tobacco, alcohol, caffeine (many people talked of de-addiction), back pain reduced, cleared nasal and ear blockage, lost weight doing oil-pulling using extra virgin olive oil, pores on face became small, no undereye puffiness, better vision, lines around eyes smoothened out, brain fog cured.
4. Coconut oil
Appetite suppressed and lost weight (many people said this), relaxing, pain in nerve decreased, joint pain gone, breathing easier, snoring gone, bloating/oedema gone in just 6 days, blood pressure stabilized, got rid of tooth/gum/mouth/bad-breath problems, gap between teeth closed, sinus cleared, heightened sense of taste, cleared inner ear infection, got rid of rocking/imbalance sensation, skin glowed and moisterized, increased energy, increased mobility, agility and vigour.
5. Cod liver oil
Got rid of teeth problems, better skin
6. Avocado oil
Makes hair healthy and shiny, bags under eyes flattened, sinus cleared
7. Cedar nut oil
Whiter teeth
8. Canola oil
Better mouth health
9. Walnut oil
Got rid of gum problems
10. Castor oil
Induces sleep
11. Black cumin seed oil
Drained mucus
12. Safflower oil
Pulling sensation in arm gone, Got rid of tooth/gum/mouth/bad-breath problems, lost weight, energetic and active, Rheumatoid Arthritis cured, chocolate addiction gone, hair and skin looks good, scar gone, periods improved, PMS gone, voice improved, got good sleep, hair shedding decreased."
RepliesEC: Wow!! Sandy, thank you so much much much! That must have taken you ages to put together.
Deeply appreciated,
Deirdre
06/12/2009: T from TC, Michigan: "wow! do you know how long you did each of these until you noticed results? how long do you oil pull.....10, 20min a day? how often do you switch oils? I would love to have these results! I must try this!"EC: Sandy's list is a compilation from hundreds of readers' posts, not her own personal feedback!
06/24/2009: Marilyn from Flanders, NJ : "Sandy - You are awesome, thank you so much. It's been difficult to get my friends to dedicate their time to reading all the testimonies that are so important. When I discovered this site, I did have the time, and was convinced easily by the wonderful feedback. So now, I can point out your hard work to my friends with confidence. I am so grateful! Bless you."
02/24/2010: Openlyhappy from Mcdonugh, Ga: "Sandy thank you so much for compiling that data. Does anyone know if i could create a concoction or oils. I liked the reported effects of seasame, sinflower, coconut and olive. Could I put a measure of each in a potion? Will they cancel each other out??? Any thoughts?"
02/25/2010: Donna from Wimauma, Florida: "I have been reading this site and absolutely love all the wonderful information. It's the readers who really benefit from all these great testimonials. It makes you feel less alone. I have been reading up on rheumatoid arthritis, anxiety & depression. gosh if oil pulling can take care of that, that would be wonderful. Any Rheumatoid stories?"
11/23/2010: Sorrokine from Vs, Ny, Usa: "This is wonderful! I just tried the sesame oil OP and I already feel my sinuses opening. I Suffer from severe mold poisoning, and have gone the route of natural herbs to treat it with success. I am also suffering from a body candida infection from mold poisoning as well. This helped the thrush portion of the sickness I couldn't quite tame. I am being cured of the mold poisoning with great herbs and supplements. Learned the hard way that Doctors can't treat me for since they'll loose their license. Thank you Earth Clinic for your amazing group of people and their knowledge. I will post when I see more results."
[YEA] 02/09/2011: Spb from New York: "Sandy's list is on point! I have been pulling with extra virgin coconut oil for the past month and the results are amazing. I have better sleeping habits, suppression of appetite, weight loss, Candida is under control, PMS and hormonal balance (mood swings and pre-ovulation pain are gone! ). Whiter teeth, pink gums, increased energy, colon cleansing and you name it.
I have also been using coconut oil on my skin and as an oil treatment in my hair. My remains moist longer and my heels are softer. My hair is thicker. I highly recommend oil pulling with extra virgin coconut oil."
02/09/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France: "Interesting how many people really feel a lot better with OP, I have to say that I don't feel a difference, neither negative nor positive although I have been doing it for quite a few months. But I will keep trying as I think that the exercise, if nothing else, is quite good. And who knows, maybe good things are going on in my health which I don't notice!"
02/11/2011: Kat from Melbourne, Australia: "Hi Francisca.... Maybe nothing has changed with you because you are as healthy as one can be???!!!"
02/12/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France: "Hi Kat, I wish it was true but I don't think so! My skin is not bad for a 53 year old but could be better, I have some kind of allergies I can't get rid of, I think that it is Candida and I usually lack energy. But well, it is nice it works so well for other people, I don't doubt them and I will go on doing it anyway. I got so used to my ritual during the week while I read the paper online..... Great excuse too!"
02/17/2011: Ali from Swansea, Wales, Uk: "Hi Francisca.
Have you tried changing the kinds of oil you use. Have you made sure that the oil you are using is not too old, or rancid? Of course, like anything, it probably works better for some people than others, but is worth persevering with, as some things can take a long time to resolve."
02/17/2011: Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France: "Hi Ali, I have tried sesame, sunflower, olive and VCO. I don't think that they where rancid but you never know! Anyway, I am not giving up even if I don't see any benefits! My dentist said that it is a good thing and anyway it must be a good exercise for the face muscles. You know, sometimes you don't see the benefits and still they are there but maybe not in place that show!"
04/27/2011: Suki from Ubud, Bali, Indonesia: "What a great list - thank you! We only have coco & olive oil here, so we'll try these & let you know.."
05/04/2011: Alina from La, Ca: "Sorrokine from Vs, Ny, Usa mentioned herbs for mold poisoning. I wish you elaborate on that. Please if you see this post give the list and dosage of herbs. Time you take them. If anyone else has cured mold poisoning I'll be so grateful to hear stories, advice, recommendations."
07/18/2011: Victoria from Las Vegas, Nv: "Has anyone used almond oil?"
11/06/2013: Kc from Boston: "Thank you for sharing this information. Oil pulling is at the top of my agenda tomorrow! I'm 45 y.o. and have always been healthy & fit. At 35, I starting reasearching health/wellnes and was fascinated by the body/mind connection. I began incorporating some of the practices into my daily life and soon felt like I was at the top of the world! Then everything changed... over the last 5 years I've experienced a drastic decline in my health. It started with digestive issues, then chronic fatique, which triggered depression. I had no energy, gained 60 lbs, started losing my hair, and developed dark bags/circles under my eyes. I went to the doctors time and time again, only to be told there was nothing wrong. The attractive, healthy, outgoing woman I once was had disappeared; I no longer recognized myself. I started looking for answers on my own, andat one point, I thought I had a parasite (I still feel that I might), then I thought I had an overgrowth of yeast/candida because I was prone to yeast infections. I tried some alternative remedies and did manage to lose 30 lbs by simple changes in diet and incorporating some light exercise. But in early spring I had a setback and ended up in the ER with severe abdominal pain; I knew it was my gallbladder, but my Dr. was not convinced, until a few weeks later, when I was rushed to the hospital and had emergency gallbladder surgery/removal. What I realized is that Dr's are only human and they don't know everything! We need to become our own advocates. I'm feeling better each day, though it is still a struggle...I find hope when I read others stories of inspiration or just sharing a simple remedy and hope is all I can ask for :-)"
02/13/2014: Linda from Hollister, Ca: "Thank you so much for this compilation Sandy! Years ago on this site, I read about Oil Pulling, but never tried it. I've tried many other remedies on EarthClinic that have always given me positive healing results. Seems now is the time for me to try oil pulling. You're an angel for putting this comprehensive list together! Thank you again!"
[YEA] 02/25/2014: Jennifer from Lake Oswego: "KC from Boston, please find a good endocrinologist and get your Thyroid checked. Make sure they do a full panel of blood work to check for autoimmune. What you describes sounds very much like hypothyroid (Hashimotos). I had identical symptoms and had to have my gallbladder removed and found out AFTER with the help of a wonderful Dr. that I have the autoimmune hypothyroid disease. Totally treatable with diet and I use a natural thyroid medicine (Armour).I am adding OP to my healthcare regimine and will report back!"
03/02/2014: Ko from Louisiana: "Re Tinnitus, it could be caused from circulation going to inner ear. It can be caused from stress, raising blood pressure, as well as other causes.I had a stressful job that I believe contributed to "ringing in the ear", I wound up leaving the job but also taking a lecithin capsule either after lunch or after supper-the 1200mg dosage. This worked for me, I'm talking a couple of days! I find that Vit E (400) added can also help, my ear canals feel cleared out instead of perhaps stopped up.
My blood pressure is on the low side right under average, my cholesterol runs at 200 (last time had that checked). If lecithin helps break down cholesterol, this should help circulation.
I showed a coworker some lecithin capsules-I believe they were 800mg/per liquid-cap at the big blue retailer, for right at $8 a bottle. He is very young-18 or so, was mentioning ringing in the ears. We live in a humid area where many people have sinus problems, ear clogs, kids need tubes in their ears, etc.
I showed him the bottle of lecithin, told him to try two at night after supper or one after lunch, one after supper the first few days. Two days later I'd seen him, he was surprised yet told me "hey that stuff works! " I told him you can back off to one tab a day, explained to him if he eats fatty foods, cheeses, meats, etc, that his diet might have something to do with this, get more fruit, greens etc. on his menu. So he was surprised but happy.
I've read that earwax is a byproduct/contains cholesterol, so if it is 'dry, like small dry tiny blocks' instead of 'waxy or oily', it can stop up the ear canal instead of naturally pushing through to the outside of your ear. Makes sense to me.
The Lipoflavanoid tabs that have a red package run $22+, in my opinion the effective ingredient is lecithin.
On another note, I just did my first oil pull earlier, did with sesame oil, added a little oregano to my bottle, shook it up will let it settle. It is allot more palatable than I thought it would be, did this for right at 18 minutes. I did brush before with a little dissolved salt/baking soda in warm water, rinsing after. I repeated the same rinse after the OP, but then brushed with the dissolved salt & baking soda/warm water after, rinsing again. So far, so good!
Interesting website, thank you! ko57"
2 Types of Gallbladder Attacks
Tue, 25 Feb 14 11:27:11 -0600
Re: Questions About Bill's Anti-Candida Protocol
Tue, 25 Feb 14 11:24:48 -0600
I feel like the answer to curing my high blood pressure is by doing a toxic/metal cleanse, a liver and gallbladder cleanse and cleaning up my diet. I don't use table salt, but pink Himalayan salt and I try my best to avoid processed foods. I do green juices to help alkalize and take spirulina in small doses.
But as I said, I am afraid that doing a cleanse will also remove the medication that keeps my blood pressure down. Though I think the cleanses will cure the blood pressure problem, I worry that my bp will spike severely if either I don't take my medication and to the cleanse...or even take the medication while doing the cleanse. What advice and/or information can you give me regarding this? I'd like to clean out my body in the safest way. I am suspecting I have a slight candida problem as I have daily flatulence...not a normal level of it...it's alot and sometimes very, very smelly. I also have a hard time losing weight."
Garlic for Plantar Warts
Tue, 25 Feb 14 11:22:59 -0600
Abrade the exact spot exposing soft fresh skin. Slice fresh garlic and tape to said spot. Change two-three times daily wear sock, again at night with fresh application. (this if from my (traditional medicine doctor) naturopathic doctor. Keep it clean and as skin softens remove to expose fresh layers. Abrade with file, clippers, pumice file, the pumice is explicitly for limited use, discard after warts and get a new one. You must be meticulous!!
Improve diet, include bicarbonate and lime water."
Trying to Locate Apple Cider Vinegar in Malawi
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:59:15 -0600
Inflammation in Eyes After Cataract Surgery
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:27:15 -0600
I had cataract surgery on my left eye six months ago; my eye still a little bit inflamed. I have been seeing the ophthalmologist every other week, the doctor has been prescribing eye drops, but they are not helping. Can you kindly tell me what can I use to stop the inflammation.
Thanks a lot, Victoria"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:25:55 -0600
01/17/2013: Lera from Formerly St Petersburg, Fl: "Gail, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. We moved across the country and I neglected to get on this site for a period of time.I bought a bottle of saline solution and emptied the contents. Then I refilled the bottle using a 1 drop of 35% food grade peroxide to 11 drops of distilled water ratio.
After filling the bottle I lean forward and inhale as I spray the mist in the back of my mouth. I do this several times and inhale deeply. Within minutes I cough up mucus then feel much better for the rest of the day.
In flu season I regularly tilt my head to one side and spray a few pumps of the solution in my ear. I then turn my head so it runs down inside. After the bubbling stops I drain onto a tissue and do the other side. Since doing this I have not had the flu or even a bad cold. My husband, a skeptic, now asks for me to do his ears at the first sign a cold or the flu.
Hope this helps, and again I apologize for taking so long to respond."
02/25/2014: Steve from Alabama: "Can you tell me if you used regular hydrogen peroxide or food grade hydrogen peroxide in your nose? Also do you know if it is safe to drink in small portions?"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:25:35 -0600
I started taking ACV for my prostate issues and found great relief using this. ACV is the best remedy I have found to date. No more pain when urinating. No more pain after sex. Wonderful! Sometimes the pain was really really bad, sometimes I would have erections that would not go away, and were not sexual at all..
Wonder of wonders, after taking ACV I soon noticed my mild reflux was gone.. and also my rhinitis had further improved. I use the No Starch Diet (quite similar to Paleo Diet actually) for my messed up immune system and that had already greatly improved my rhinitis (and other inflammatory immune problem too).
== Other things I tried ==
* Molasses - actually seemed to work reasonably well, but the ACV remedy is better!
* Top quality Multivitamin & Mineral & Antioxidant supplement (Pharmaceutical grade). ACV is still better hehe
* Making the renal system alkaline helped. That includes things like Cream of Tartar mixed with juice. Baking soda and water on an empty tummy. Lots of fruit & veg.. etc.
== Things that make it worse ==
** Chocolate! (due to sugar content perhaps?)
** Sugar
** Coffee
* Excessive protein consumption - makes the urine too acidic and my prostate doesn't like it."
12/11/2013: Jackdaw from Dallas, Tx: "I was just wondering since both blackstrap molasses and ACV both seem to work if anyone has tried combining the two. It seems to me that the blackstrap mixed with the ACV would lessen the taste of the ACV and just wondering if anyone has tried this."
01/01/2014: Zark from Emerald City, The Land Of Oz: "Regarding -- combining ACV & molasses --
Yes you can use them together. Tastes even worst in my opinion hehe. I quite like the taste of ACV with fruit juice. And molasses is tolerable when with strong tea.-- reducing ACV acidity --
I have issues with the strong acidity of ACV when increasing the dose.. it hurts my teeth. So I started adding baking soda and surprisingly it still worked just as well!! I thought maybe it would stop working but all was good :-). Problem with baking soda is it has too much sodium and gives me a headache, so now I am experimenting with calcium carbonate (lime mineral) which is easily found in most (but maybe not all) calcium supplements. Z."
02/23/2014: Old Lion from Amarillo, Tx: "Does it HAVE to be Apple Cider Vinegar ? Just curious. What about regular vinegar, white? Etc."
02/25/2014: Mt from New Jersey: "3 weeks ago I began taking 4 teaspoons of ACV in 16 ounces of water a day, I see no signs of improvement. Do I need to take it for a longer time to see any effects?"
Re: Activated Charcoal for Food Poisoning
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:25:08 -0600
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:22:21 -0600
Had infection somewhere in the larynx first week of January, on medication for 10 days, right after, I got all these symptoms.
I'm recently having all the symptoms of LPR/GERd/airway reflux. I am on my first day of Nexium...for 5 days. hopefully it will work. I'm also inspired to follow Mark from Newton Abbots' diet program. started yesterday with probiotics and enzymes but will put on hold from today for 5 days to give way to Nexium. I will just have real papaya as supplement.
Also, considering peptest, marshmallow roots, slippery elm, manuka honey but difficult to find here in Qatar, will just buy from amazon.
Please let me know for any updates of progress."
My situation is as follows. I was in India in August this year and had an upset stomach when there. When in India, I started to waken up in the middle on the night with difficulty in breathing/swallowing which was quite frightening. When I got back from India I started to develop a lump in my throat and then developed a tightness in my chest where I had difficulty breathing and had some pain. I thought I was having a heart attack. Then I developed this sensation in my head in October like a rush of energy/lightheadedness and it has been with me since. I am not able to think 100% clearly and I am also at times feeling shakey and weak and am experiencing tingling and a numb like feeling in my hands and feet. My symptoms are getting worse and I have tried PPIs but they have not helped. I am also constantly tired.
The most distressing thing for me at the moment is the head sensation. I work full time and it can be a challenge at times to get through the day.
Are the symptoms I have mentioned above typical for silent acid reflux and how can I alleviate them, especially the head sensation? Yesterday, I started to take the following :-
Apple cider vinegar and bicarbonate of soda - two time per day
B 50 Complex Vitamins - twice per day
Vitamin C 1000mg - twice per day
Bio Gest Digestive Enzymes - three times per day with meals
Essential Amino Acid Complex - 2 tabs once per day
Any advise as to whether I am on the right track or not would be very welcome and if anyone out there has been able to relieve the head sensation from Silent Reflux, I would love to hear from you.
Hoping to get some help!!!!"
11/24/2013: Mary from Edmonton: "Hi Momo.I just went through all lot of your symptoms so this will be very helpful.
1. Buy some HCI tablets and start by taking 1 at the first meal then 2 at the second meal and continue until you feel a burn in your stomach then back down to the previous amount for the next meal. You are trying to determine if you have too much or too little acid in your stomach because you cannot go forward until you determine the correct problem. If you have too little acid the PPI's would not work as they reduce your your stomach acid when you actually need more acid henceforth the HCI tablets? ACV does the same thing except it is harder to control the dose. There are no side effects testing the HCI tablet's but the are many with the PPI's.
2. Since you were in India there is a very good chance that you may have picked up a bacteria like H.Pylori which causes the reflux. We all have H.pylori but they only represent a problem when there is an overgrowth which means your system was probably in a weakened condition to begin with so you have to do 2 things: strengthen your immune system and kill the overgrowth of bacteria. In my case it felt like my head was full all the time. It is because sometimes the reflux backs up into your lungs which causes the tightness in your chest & that scary feeling of not being able to breathe then eventually it moves up into your head. I ended up on an inhaler to open my bronchial airways when they got constricted. Japanese mint oil does the same. As soon as you start to feel constricted put a couple of drops on the back of your hand and lick them off as they are really strong! I also had that horrible lump in my throat that made me panic when I could not swallow sometimes.
My protocol that has been working for 4 days now is:
1. Lugol's 5% iodine: start at 3 drops in water on an empty stomach 3 times a day & work your way up to 8 drops or any lesser dose that makes you feel well. Most of our thyroids are working less than necessary so this will generate the metabolism you need to fight this thing. Do not take with anything else. Must be 3 hrs. after a meal or 1 hr. before a meal &/or drinks of any kind.
2. Sangre de Grado (also called Dragon's Blood). I bought the Rainforest Pharmacy brand on line. See the benefits at http://www.rain-tree.com/sangre.htm#.UpIaoRB5mSM. 15 drops in water on an empty stomach 2 x day. This will kill those nasty bacteria.
3. Natural Factors makes a tincture that has Echinacea and goldenseal http://www.naturalfactors.com/caen/products/detail/2668/echinamide-anti-cold-echinacea-and38-goldenseal-tincture that will strengthen your lungs. 1 ml 3 x day again on an empty stomach. I combined this with the Sangre de grado but NOT the Lugol's.
3.Really small meals and lots of them until you get this under control especially at night time and no acidic food or drinks especially anything containing sugar which is acid forming. Fruit & vege's are alkaline and everything else is acid forming except for fats which are neutral. If you find that too difficult try to eat or drink any of the bad stuff before lunch so that you are not refluxing at night.
4. Buy some saliva PH strips and test your saliva constantly to make sure your PH is in the normal range: 7.2 to 7.4 most of the time. You cannot be too acidic (below 7) or too alkaline (above 7.4). If you find you are consistently very acidic inbetween meals take 1/2 tsp of baking soda with just a tiny pinch of Xylitol sugar in a 1/2 cup of water to neautralize your stomach acid. You must mix the baking soda very well! I use a handheld friother. Take this mixture again just before bed on an empty stomach so that you can avoid the acid reflux at night. Your stomach needs to be acidic before/during meals to digest your food then alkaline from an hour to 3 hours afterwards depending on what you are digesting. The sugar which is antibacterial allows the baking soda inside the cells.
5. You may have a hiatal hernia from the reflux. Find a good chiropractor and have him pull it down once then do it on your own afterwards. Perhaps there is something on Youtube. You must have excellent posture to prevent squishing your stomach with your diaphragm which also causes the reflux especially after a meal.
Please let me know how you make out as it took me so long to find my protocol. Everyone told me what to do but all of it is pointless until you do the testing to determine the issue first.
Best wishes."
02/25/2014: Lurkspur74 from Qatar: "Dear All,Had infection somewhere in the larynx first week of January, on medication for 10 days, right after, I got all these symptoms.
I'm recently having all the symptoms of LPR/GERd/airway reflux. I am on my first day of Nexium...for 5 days. hopefully it will work. I'm also inspired to follow Mark from Newton Abbots' diet program. started yesterday with probiotics and enzymes but will put on hold from today for 5 days to give way to Nexium. I will just have real papaya as supplement.
Also, considering peptest, marshmallow roots, slippery elm, manuka honey but difficult to find here in Qatar, will just buy from amazon.
Please let me know for any updates of progress."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:21:24 -0600
12/15/2010: Paul from Nashville, Tn Usa: "How long did the cayenne user take his doses before his prostate numbers were down? I am currently a prostate cancer sufferer, and I have been using essiac tea along with baking soda/maple syrup with what appears to be some results (a 2 point drop in my psa over a six month period). Also just started with h2o2 inhaler."
12/16/2010: Denise from St. Paris, Ohio/usa: "Paul have you had your vitamin d level checked? My husbands was very low and started taking 5000 IU of vitamin D3 a day and his psa number is now normal. Check out all the information about D3 and prostate. My husbands urologist was amazed by this low psa number. This was only 3 months between psa readings. Hope this helps and good luck to you. Denise"
03/17/2011: Pamela from Gering, Nebraska: "Curious, how does one use cayenne for healing empheysema?"
02/23/2014: Patrick from Montreal Quebec: "Hi, my mom has copd. Does cayenne help with copd? How much can she take, she is 76 years old. Thank you"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Go to the Ailment section on earth clinic and find COPD. You will see that hydrogen peroxide has 10 YEAS. That is probably what your mother should use."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:20:59 -0600
Well, about 3 wks ago I had an OB and OMG did it hurt. I went to a Chinese herb doctor on the second day of my OB. She put me on pills..... I was taking 30 pills a day and a 6 weeks supply cost me $200. She told me I would have to continue taking the pills for at least 6 months, possibly all the way up to year before I would see results, meaning--no more OB's. I bought into the idea for about 3 weeks, then decided I was tired of swallowing massive quanity of pills and quit bc I was still getting the tingly feeling/irritation.
So, I further researched the web and decided to give oil of oregano a try. It was $30 for a small dropper bottle, I figured what do I have to lose. I've tried just about everything on the web!! I began doing 4 drops under my tongue (twice a day) and then at night (4 drops) rubbing the oil onto the base of my spine. (Yes, at night bc the scent is very powerful and not pleasant).
I had one episode about 2 days into it, where I got the tingly feeling, and decided to drop OOO on a q-tip and put it on the irritated area. OMG, did it burn. I should have diluted, but didn't. Lesson learned!! Anyways, with one treatment, the tingly feeling went away and I have not had one since.
I was having such good results, so I decided to take it a step further and ordered DSMO in the cream form (the rose scented one off EBAY). I began rubbing a mixture of OOO and DSMO onto the base of my spine every night.
Not saying this is for everyone, but it has been amazing for me. Not once since I started using this combo have I had any predome symptoms. I couldn't be happier. I do have to say, if you decide to try the DSMO on the base of your spine, use a light (and I stress, light) coat. I've experimented and went heavier one night and got so sick. I wanted to throw up so bad. It passed, but it was an awful feeling. So, keep it light. I've read that some ppl have actually been cured using this method for a month or two. Not saying I am or will be, but if the symptoms stay away--that's all I'm asking for."
10/10/2013: Katy To Happygirl from Melbourne, Australia: "I am also trying the oregano oil (10 drop 3 times a day and on spine 3 times a day), vitamin C (9.5g) day, coconut oil drinking (4 tablespoons a day). I am now only getting a tingle for say 15 minutes bi-monthly. I want it gone though and then get tested. How much DMSO do you put on so you do not get sick now? Thanks very much and please keep us posted. Did you get a positive HSV2 test? Will you do another test soon?"
10/11/2013: Happygirl from Dallas, Tx: "I put a very light coat. The DMSO that I use has a creamy texture, so I just basically run one finger half way across the top of the jar. Just enough to get some on my finger. First, I'll rub the oregano oil onto my spine, then the DMSO follows on top. It seems to be working for me. This is the first time in close to a year that I haven't had any symptoms!!! I'm so happy..... my fingers are crossed it will remain this way.Yes, I did test positive for HSV2 antibodies back in Dec/2012. Since then, it's been non-stop w/the tingles/irritation. That is until I started the OOO/DMSO!! I may retest if I don't have any symtoms or OB's in about 4 months, or so.
Wow, you do 10 drops? 3 times a day both orally and externally?? How long have you been doing this?? That's awesome you only too only get the tingles and nothing more. Full on OB's hurt. :(
I too still take Vitamin C, but it's just the regular amount, nothing crazy like I was doing. Try the DMSO, I honestly believe this is what has made the difference for me...."
10/14/2013: Katy from Melbourne, Australia: "Yes, I'm taking 10 drops 3 times daily and rubbing 6 drops 3 times daily. Coconut oil 3 times daily in a 20 ml spoon melted in warm water. How much vitamin C do you take? Please please get tested when you feel in you're heart it's gone."
10/23/2013: Katy from Melbourne, Australia : "To Happygirl, how have you been going? Any changes to report? Are you clear of all symptoms? Hope you are and feeling well!"
[NAY] 02/05/2014: Happygirl from Dallas: "Well, the oregano oil and DMSO did not work out so great after all. I was still having OB's. About 2 months ago, I tried Kyolic Immune Formula (Garlic pills w/other immune boosting ingredients like vitamin c and mushrooms) and so far it's been working great. I take 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening and my OB's have been kept at bay.....or at least I hope!"
02/25/2014: Katy from Australia : "Hi Happygirl, how long did you end up doing the DMSO for? Had you stopped when the OB happened? Were you taking the Oregano Oil orally also? Thanks very much"
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:20:34 -0600
I always have "fish" antibiotics on hand in case an emergency arises. everyone should. use natural if possible. all the antibiotics should be ok for at least 5 years except monocycline which has a 1 year storage. If it is the weekend, your really up the creek waiting till monday to see a doctor. my bad teeth events happen friday afternoon - lol - really. I have had people I know who had developed bad infections which could have become serious but was able to quickly nip the infection in the bud because I had antibiotics on hand. fish antibiotics are 10X cheaper than human antibiotics.
You really have to buy some things when you don't need them. you may never use them but just having them on hand gives you more options during emergencies. this way you turn emergencies into non emergencies. you have more time to think about it. of course, always take it with bromelaine.
I can't give you an opinion of what is happening to your face and what you should do. if you find out, please report back. the information will be useful to other people."
I have had a really bad tooth infection for a month now. I have been on three big guns broad spectrum antibiotics trying to clear it up. Nothing will touch it. Nothing touches the pain. Yesterday out of desperation I decided to try garlic. I chopped two cloves, smashed it a bit, waited 5 min then swallowed it with water. I did this about 4 more times, then went to bed. Woke up, and the pain had lessened. Second day, I continued the protocol and tonight I'm pain free. I am seriously pain free. And I never even put a garlic clove on my gum yet because I was afraid that it would burn too much.
So here's what I do: Take two garlic cloves, peel, chop, then smash it a bit to where I see some juice come out, wait about 5 minutes and swallow it back. I put it on a spoon and just swallow. Repeated this about 4 times more.
This really works. The swelling and pressure in my gum is gone and the deep pain is gone. This is truly nature's antibiotic. I've been on three big gun antibiotics and it wouldn't even touch it. Amazing!"
02/24/2014: Reka from West Sussex Uk: "Thank you for your help everybody, I have done the same and the bump disappeared from my gum but all the swelling went into my lip and face. What do I do now? The same side where the swelling was in my tooth at the root. Do I need antibiotics now? I look like I had a lip job. Please urgent help needed, I hope I didn't make it worse! Thank you!!!"
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "When one is in pain or discomfort in mouth area especially teeth, it can become really urgent just on basis of the pain alone.I understand your urgency.I always have "fish" antibiotics on hand in case an emergency arises. everyone should. use natural if possible. all the antibiotics should be ok for at least 5 years except monocycline which has a 1 year storage. If it is the weekend, your really up the creek waiting till monday to see a doctor. my bad teeth events happen friday afternoon - lol - really. I have had people I know who had developed bad infections which could have become serious but was able to quickly nip the infection in the bud because I had antibiotics on hand. fish antibiotics are 10X cheaper than human antibiotics.
You really have to buy some things when you don't need them. you may never use them but just having them on hand gives you more options during emergencies. this way you turn emergencies into non emergencies. you have more time to think about it. of course, always take it with bromelaine.
I can't give you an opinion of what is happening to your face and what you should do. if you find out, please report back. the information will be useful to other people."
Tue, 25 Feb 14 08:20:03 -0600
I would stop taking the Zegerid and take the R-ALA. The other poster mentioned taking 1500-1800 grams and that being affective for her. I would consider that dosage since it was effective for her. They say that 300 grams is therapeutic dose. Start at 300 and work your way up. Maybe you won't need as high a dose. Even studies have used up to 1200mg for 3 weeks or so.
Experiment with Zegerid later. I'd be concerned about how the Zegerid interacts with the other two the most. I know you started it so may be pain to stop it but that is just my 2 cents worth."
Anyway, after about a week or two of these "episodes", my neck began to ache (all over, front and back) and my throat started to burn. It was awful. Gradually, I began feeling strange sensations in my tongue, which soon changed to a burning feeling- around the sides, at the tip, and even on the top. It was bizarre and terrifying to have such unusual symptoms. Eventually, my tongue even felt very sore, so sore that I talked a little funny at times (b/c I was "babying" my tongue, I think).
While experiencing all of this, between early-March and early-June 2012, I saw my PCP 3x, an ENT, a GI (APRN), and a neck/back specialist. (I also went to the ER once where I was seen, diagnosed with a sore throat, and sent home.) I felt terrible and was so desperate for some relief! (By the way, blood work and neck x-rays were negative.) A few docs, including the ER MD, felt I had a virus (for which I was first given Ibuprofen/Tylenol and later antibiotic treatments), then a few other docs suspected acid reflux. I couldn't believe that acid reflux could cause me to feel so terrible especially since I was unaware of any symptoms! Although I wanted to dismiss reflux as a possible cause, I was feeling desperate, so I tried whatever was recommended, including Maalox (2 tbsp) at bedtime (recommended by 1 ENT), then prescription medication (for reflux) in the A. M. (such as Aciphex), always 1/2 hour before breakfast (recommended by the GI APRN). With time, I felt a little improvement, but not much. So I continued to doubt the whole reflux theory; I spent so much time in fear that I had a serious illness. Why else would I feel so awful with such unusual symptoms?
Finally, my PCP sent me to a second ENT in early/mid June, about three weeks ago (for a second ENT opinion). He listened, answered all of my questions, and majorly eased my fears. While he suggested Burning Mouth Syndrome as a possibility (maybe caused by anxiety/depression, a hormonal imbalance or neuropathy), he too, felt that acid reflux might be the culprit and needed to be ruled out first. (Note: He didn't see signs and symptoms of a vitamin deficiency or thrush or lichen planus, which can cause burning mouth). He just asked me to be patient and follow his recommendations...
He seemed to be really knowledgeable; For one thing, I was impressed as he was the only doctor I saw who knew a considerable amount about BMS! (He said he had seen about 30 cases in 15 years, almost all women.) Anyway, he disagreed with the other ENT I had seen and the GI I had seen re: their treatment recommendations for possible reflux, at least in my case. He said that I had "silent reflux", which explained why I was unaware of any symptoms. He said that Maalox at bedtime wasn't enough, and taking medication in the a.m. (I. E. Aciphex) wasn't doing me any good as I was experiencing "silent reflux" at NIGHT. He recommended Zegrid (over the counter, 20 mg) for 4 weeks; he wanted me to take it in the evening rather than the a.m. Again, I was doubtful, wondering if, again, I was just wasting my time and money. (This has gotten quite expensive as I'm sure you can imagine! ) Anyway, it's been almost 3 weeks and I'm feeling MUCH, MUCH better! Seriously, I went from being on the verge of tears (almost nightly) due to tongue discomfort, and gargling with Maalox (and other remedies) multiple times a day to rarely thinking about my tongue (d/t a lack of discomfort) and no gargling (with one exception, which I'll mention in a minute). My pain, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the worst) went from about an average of 8 to an average of 1 or 2! :) The choking feeling stopped first, then the burning in my throat went away; gradually, the aches and pains in my neck ceased, and finally my tongue burning and soreness subsided! But it did take time (3 weeks and counting) and patience like the doc said.
In short, I felt I just had to write and post on "Earth Clinic" b/c I had visited this website many times while trying to find relief for my burning/painful tongue. Others provided me with some helpful suggestions (and support), so I figured now it's my turn to (hopefully) help others.
In conclusion, here are my thoughts having been through this burning tongue/bottom lip/throat nightmare myself: First of all, while very uncomfortable, don't panic and don't think the worst (like I did). Be persistent (with your doctor), experiment with various remedies (from sucking on ice to gargling with Maalox), and, most importantly, be patient and positive (if at all possible)... Remember, it took 3 months for me to find a doctor with the right "remedy" and then weeks of using the this remedy (20 mg Zegerid OTC in the evening x 28 days) for me to feel ALMOST total relief. Seriously, I never thought I'd see this day (a couple of months back)!
Please note, I started taking folic acid and Vit. B Stress pills (in the A. M.) at about the same time I started taking Zegerid. I also started brushing my teeth (and gargling) with Biotene 2x/day awhile back. I figured I had nothing to lose. While I don't think I have (or ever had) a vitamin deficiency, I started taking vitamins b/c it was suggested by others with BMS symptoms. The ENT said my tongue would be bright red and shiny, which it wasn't, if I was suffering from a vitamin deficency. Just thought I should mention this anyway...
Good Luck to anyone suffering from a burning mouth/tongue. I know it's terrible, but I really think you can find some relief if you're able to get to the root of the problem. It may take awhile and, unfortunately, quite a bit of money, but it can be done, so please don't lose hope! Strive to meet with a doctor familiar with the various causes of BMS as this should save you a lot of time and unnecessary (and costly) doctor visits.
All My Best, Ashley"
11/22/2013: Kay from Bala Cynwyd, Pa: "To Judy from Australia- did you BMS stop? Your story sounds like mine."
02/21/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I am 46 years old and have had burning tongue/mouth syndrome for 2 years and 7 months and yes, have spent literally thousands of dollars on doctor/dentist/specialists, lab work, more lab work, etc and am currently on Dr. #11. My chiropractor/nutritionist is helping the most. My story is similar in that the burning mouth and neck pain started together. Sometimes things seem to help and then the burning comes back and progressively gets worse. I have tried every remedy out there and then some. I have cleaned my body of yeast, have lost 15 pounds on an already very slim frame, avoid sugars (except red wine in evening. It numbs my mouth and is my only source of relief), breads, found I am very allergic to all dairy and eggs and have slight to moderate allergies of many foods. I eat extremely healthy and am scared of literally everything I consume. I am perimenopausal and the burning tongue/mouth and neck pain started in the midst of my mother's decline in her long battle with COPD. Some doctors thought it was stress related and the burning would subside after she passed. She died 15 months ago and it has not left. I have not had a single day without burning in my mouth in 2 years and 7 months. I am going to try the Zegrid starting tonight. My chiropractor ran tests that show I am significantly lacking in progesterone and when I started the natural oil 2 weeks ago, it made a tremendous improvement in the burning sensation. 2 weeks on progesterone, then 2 weeks off. I just started the 2 weeks off, 2 days ago, and they burning returned with a vengeance. This is a horrible affliction. I can sympathize with those that end their lives over this. This is all consuming and prior to this affliction, I rarely visited doctors. There is so much more I could write but I will stop for now and check back in once I have gone through a few rounds of progesterone and a month of Zegrid. Wish me luck please. And luck to everyone out there who suffers from this devastating affliction. Thank you for sharing Ashley.Kristine"
02/21/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Have you tried supplementing with magnesium? Most of us are low on it and stress will cause you to burn through it. A quick google showed a study that found a connection between burning mouth and magnesium deficiency."
02/21/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Hi Kristine.Burning mouth seems to be a form of neuropathy. Burning is a common sensation of neuropathy, Maybe the myelin of the nerves is being destroyed. Have you tried the methylcobalamin, benfotiamine and R alpha lipoic acid remedies.
"In one study, researchers followed 42 women and 18 men with burning mouth syndrome. The patients were given either 200 mg of alpha lipoic acid or placebos three times daily for two months. Nearly all of the patients on alpha lipoic acid showed improvement compared to placebo, and 75 percent benefited substantially, with some experiencing complete recovery."
You mentioned that your mother who passed away had COPD. I am just curious what remedies she had tried."
02/22/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you both for your feedback. Yes, I have tried magnesium injections to no benefit. I have yet to try ALA but it did read very much about it on this site. My intention was to try the Zegerid at bedtime as Ashley had mentioned, give it a month, and if it did not help, switch to ALA. Or should I try the ALA first?Thinking it was a neuropathy, we tried gabapentin for several months increasing the dosage to 2600 mg but the side effects were worsening and my BTS/BMS did not improve, although it did in the beginning.
My mother did not have BTS, just COPD. She lived much longer than any doctor predicted and they were actually amazed b/c she lived for more than 2 years after she fell and broke her hip. At the time of her fall her lung capacity was 12.5%. She was on oxygen for 9 years prior to her death.
Thank you very much for any and all advice.
Kristine"
02/22/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Zegrid has serious side effects: easy bruising or bleeding, unusual weakness; fast or slow heartbeats; or low magnesium (dizziness, confusion, fast or uneven heart rate, jerking muscle movements, jittery feeling, muscle cramps, muscle weakness or limp feeling, cough or choking feeling, seizure) ... This isn't a drug you want to be on for the long term. Even if you do get some relief with it, I'd keep searching for something more natural.I'd make sure you use Right ALA. I'd go with right ALA first since your system may be more clean of medications."
02/23/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "To Kristine in Chicago.....try 1500 to 1800 mg of sustained release alpha lipoic acid along with a good b12 supplement....the ALA literally saved my life. It's not completely gone because I think part of mine is related to my thyroid, but I am living again. There are many medical studies related to ALA at that dosage and BMS. Good luck!"
02/24/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris from FL and Becca from Abilene: Thank you both so very much for your input. I started on the Zegerid 2 nights ago and changed my diet/lifestyle (once again) in the hopes of some relief. I have noticed a big difference in the chemistry of my mouth in the am, but the burning, albeit less, still persists (and I know this is not an over night solution). Given all of the information I am seeing posted re: ALA, I believe I can take this with the Zegerid. Is this correct? I want to give the Zegerid time to help with the reflux because after all of the research I have done on silent reflux (LBR), and my lifestyle and diet, I believe this could be the culprit. I have every symptom of LBR except heartburn, and I realize most people who suffer from LBR do not present with heartburn. So now I have changed my diet and eating habits (I was always a late dinner eater), switched to alkaline water, am taking the Zegerid and would like to add ALA but have seen varying posts about the dosage. I am 5'6 and 107 pounds currently. Also, the burning really returned with a vengeance after I stopped the progesterone oil at bedtime (2 weeks on and 2 weeks off). After researching the internet and talking with my chiropractor/nutritionist, I found that progesterone neutralizes acid in the esophagus and stomach. And is a natural stress reliever. Stress causes more acid reflux. Ugh! I am obsessed and all consumed with this condition. I cannot believe I still have it after this long. I feel as if I cannot move forward in life or honestly enjoy life to the fullest until I get this constant burning pain under control.Again, I really appreciate your input. I want to start on the ALA but need to be sure I am taking the correct dosage. And then again, I am concerned that starting on too many things (Zegerid, ALA and natural progesterone...which my doc says is very much needed as I am completely depleted of this hormone) will cause confusion as to which is beneficial for this condition, although all may be.
Thanks again!
Kristine"
02/24/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Kristine: 4oz canned sweet potatoes every other day makes progesterone. 1g hops extract prevents them from being aromatized."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I think the progesterone being a hormone would be the highest priority especially if you are depleted. Being depleted of any hormone could set off a chain reaction of problems in your body.I would stop taking the Zegerid and take the R-ALA. The other poster mentioned taking 1500-1800 grams and that being affective for her. I would consider that dosage since it was effective for her. They say that 300 grams is therapeutic dose. Start at 300 and work your way up. Maybe you won't need as high a dose. Even studies have used up to 1200mg for 3 weeks or so.
Experiment with Zegerid later. I'd be concerned about how the Zegerid interacts with the other two the most. I know you started it so may be pain to stop it but that is just my 2 cents worth."
02/25/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "I too am not a fan of the Zegarid....could actually compound the problem. You might try Mastic Gum..one capsule morning and evening....medically proven to heal stomach issues....took myself and worked great. As far as the dosage of ALA...most of the clinical trials said that some relief started at 600 mg....most got significant relief at 1200 to 1800 mg per day with no negative side effects noted and was studied for two years. I agree...start low and increase slow. My endo gave me progesterone capsules to take everyday...I take sporadically. Never heard of low progesterone being linked to BMS....but hormones do crazy things to the body so you never know. Hang in there...no one that has never experienced it can begin to understand what it does to the body and mind."
02/25/2014: Prioris from Fl: "Just for clarification. Are those doses of ALA the ALA or the R-ALA?"
02/26/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Prioris, Becca, and Mike62: Thank you so very much for all of your input and help you have shared. I really appreciate it. But I have to admit that I have stayed on the Zegerid at bedtime and the changes have been amazing. I have also committed to the diet and lifestyle of acid reflux sufferers, buying the book "Dropping Acid, The Reflux Diet Cookbook and Cure". I have nearly every symptom of this problem and medicine, namely Zegerid (1 of approx 5 listed) is needed to help alleviate the symptoms of Silent Reflux or LBR). LBR is different than GERD, that is why I was unaware of my condition. The changes since taking the Zegerid and changing my diet and eating habits is tremendous!!Additionally, progesterone is a natural stress reliever and acid reducer (namely in the stomach and esophagus). I found this through my own research and discussions with my chiropractor/nutritionist/hormone therapy doctor. At the onset of this illness I was in the throws of my mother (whom I shared an extremely close and loving relationship with) entering the downward spiral of COPD, and I was in periomenopause (where your hormones are on the decline), and also a single mother preparing to send my only daughter off to college...not to mention I decided to quit my job of 20 years and start up my own business. What a perfect storm of stress and hormone depletion!!
Needless to say....I am excited and thrilled to no end right now. As I type this I have zero burning in my mouth. Yesterday I experienced maybe 2 hours of slight burning (range of about 3 on pain level). My pain level prior to the Zegerid was running a 7-8, bringing me to tears and monopolizing my entire life daily. As Becca mentioned, no one knows what this can do to your mind and body.
Thank you all so very much again and I will continue to keep you posted. If I have indeed found my remedy, after nearly 2 years and 8 months, I certainly want to help others.
Kristine"
02/26/2014: Prioris from Fl: "I'll add one more thing you can do.Zegerid side effects may not be good for you long term. It may just mask the symptom and then boomerang on you later on. Research anectdotal reports of long term use of Zegerid and see what it is doing to other people so you can nip any problem in the bud.
I'd experiment with Stabilized Na R-ALA after you've had a good vacation from pain. If it works, it will be more healthier for your body over the long term. Good Luck."
02/27/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thanks Prioris. I will check back in to confirm how I am doing. I intend on adding the ALA in time (unless I go pain free for a very long period of time). I have only been on the Zegerid for 5 nights now. Burning now and then but remain hopeful. I know it takes takes weeks for full benefits of Zegerid to take effect. I do agree that possibly the stress and burning has caused damage to the myelin and therefore I will need the ALA. Either way, I will check back in. Again, many thanks to everyone.Kristine"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Up until a few weeks ago, I had never heard of this. What I did come across was a show on TV that had featured something very similar. In this case the cause was the person's high blood pressure meds. When meds were changed the symptoms went away. Don't know if it will help but - something to consider."
02/27/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "It's ALA."
02/28/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "To Becca, Prioris and Ed: I am going out to get the ALA today. I did more research on Silent Reflux and BMS and find that some patients take the Zegerid and ALA together. They take the Zegerid to help control the reflux, and the ALA for the burning pain. Also, finding so many cases where BMS is directly related to Silent Reflux (LBR). Burning persists, at about a 1-3 today and yesterday....at least not the 7-8 I had been experiencing.Becca, how long did it take for the ALA to kick in and give you relief? I am going to start at 200mg 3x a day and increase it weekly until I get up to your recommended dosage. Prioris: I am having some of the side effects from the Zegerid but hope they will subside over time (headache, muscle cramping). The headache could be from not eating as well. So difficult to eat as it inevitably increases the burning. Certain foods make it very bad, while others not so bad. I am trying to be patient and let the meds and diet kick in.
Ed: I do not have high blood pressure but do appreciate your input. My blood pressure always runs on the low side. Unless the burning pain is high. At the onset of my neck pain and burning tongue I was on zero medications. Not a single one.
Thanks again everyone. I am determined and hopeful. I can function at a pain level of 1-3. When it creeps up to 7-8 that's when life gets very rough. I cannot express enough how much I appreciate all of your input. Please stay tuned as I feel I may have more questions. Thanks-
Kristine"
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I was desperate....I started out on 900mg of a high quality sustained release brand and I also wanted to get alkalined quickly so I drank 1/2 tsp of cooking grade baking soda in about 6 oz of water the first night right before I went to bed. I did the same thing the next morning. I took 600 mg that night...no baking soda. I did this for several days and then cut out the daily baking soda...just every few days if I have an acidic meal. I continue the 900 mg in the morning and another 600 in the afternoon. I saw results quickly....with 12 to 18 hours. I also us a liquid vitamin b supplement and take vitamin d....both very important in nerve conduction and neuropathy. Don't be afraid of the ALA...and definitely do the baking soda with it for the first few days."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "Today I gave someone from some ALA I had lying around - about 600mg - to try for their neuropathy. They experienced bad heart burn. It is better absorbed on empty stomach but some people need to take it with food. For people who haven't taken larger doses of ALA, it is something to be aware of.Stabilized Na R-ALA has the advantage of R-ALA. It also has contaminants removed. It suppose to have the highest bioavailability (40 to 60 percent more). It also suppose to NOT have heart burn and stomach upset properties of the other types. I ordered some Na R-ALA a couple days ago so will see how that does."
02/28/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris...am curious where you got information on the R ALA. None of the clinical studies I read mentioned a "stabilized" version of ALA. I would love to read up on it if you would share."
02/28/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "This goes into more details about Alpha Lipoic Acid and why you may want stabilized form. I hadn't looked into ALA for quite a few years and found out things I hadn't been aware of. http://claudiap.hubpages.com/hub/What-to-Be-Very-Careful-About-When-You-Get-Alpha-Lipoic-Acid"
03/01/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Prioris.....thanks for the info. Been reading up on it and have decided to give it a try. Just as DIM is the stable form of Indole Carbinol 3 ...which is what my doctor put me on years ago before the stabilized derivative was discovered..and is safer to use...i understand the stability issue of taking natural remedies. Although I have had great success with the ALA that I have been taking...there is still some unresolved issues and the brand that I trust also has the Stabalized R ALA and I should be able to take fewer tablets. Thanks again for the info....and God's health to you!"
03/01/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "In one brand of the Bioenhanced Stabilized Na R-ALA I saw a note for Burning Mouth Syndrome"Please note: For BMS (Burning Mouth Syndrome) we recommend you take 2 capsules 4 times a day until you see results. Then you can reduce the amount slowly until you see what works for you.
1 capsule = 150mg"
03/02/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "I picked up the only ALA I could find at the Vitamin Shop. There were 2 types and I bought both. One is a triple strength ALA rapid release at 300mg and the other is a maximum strength ALA at 600mg. Started on it yesterday afternoon. I could not find any type of stabilized R ALA, but maybe I could order once I finish the supply I have.I am feeling very hopeful. I continue with the Zegerid for now, 20mg 2x a day and muscle cramping has ceased, with occasional headaches remaining. Prioris and Becca: Do you suggest then that I take 300mg of the ALA 4x a day to start then? I am basing this on your recent suggestion. I started yesterday with the 600mg straight off and like you said Becca, I had adverse stomach reactions which subsided over time but I was very happy with the level of burning. I would put it at a 1 yesterday. Yesterday was a very good day.
Becca: I have been on sub-lingual vitamin B-12 with folic acid for quite some time and my blood test results always show that I am running high on all vitamin B's. My doc stresses to keep up on this supplement. She also recently added vitamin D to my regime as I am running on the low end of the scale.
My vitamins and supplements were recently scaled back largely and at this time I am taking the following: Juice Plus, vitamin B-12 with folic acid (2 tablets under the tongue 2x a day), Vitamin D every other day, fish oil, Etodolac 400mg mostly in the mornings for maintenance of arthritis pain in neck (if it's bad in the evening as well), and Norco 5 for emergency tongue pain and/or neck pain. I do my best not to take this unless necessary as I realize what an awful drug this is. It does help tremendously when my tongue/mouth burning is bad. If the tongue burning goes over a pain level of 5 I will take one. Without fail it always brings the burning down to a 1-2.
Thanks so much to both of you. You are God's sends, without a doubt.
Kristine"
03/02/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "Kristine....I take my ALA twice a day....900 mg in the morning (3 x 300mg) and another 300 to 600 mg in the afternoon depending on how I feel. Vitamin D is crucial....at one time I was on a prescription of one a week at 100,000 I.u. Later, my doctor said I could just take OTC.....I take 1000 I.u. daily. I was taking several different supplements daily and ended up getting some imbalances. Now, I know this may sound weird, but I decided that I needed one balanced supplement that gave me everything I need and settled on a well known brand of pre natal vitamin with DHA. I take the above dose of ALA, vitamin D, and the pre natal. I feel better all over, energy is great, and the imbalances are re-balancing. I have layed off of the extra sublingual B for the moment...will let my body tell me when I need it. I am going to change to the stabilized ALA...found my brand on amazon...to see if I see any better results. when I have a burning flare up, I take 1/2 tsp of baking soda in water to alkalize quickly. This has always alleviated the burn quickly. I also rinse my mouth with soda water at night after brushing my teeth."
03/02/2014: Prioris from Fl, Usa: "I would order the Stabilized version of Na R-ALA just based on the research. I realized you already spent money and bought something and want to use it up but I'd bite the bullet and order the stabilized form. You can test it side by side. You want to stop the BMS first and then you can maybe use up the ALA later while on maintenance.You have to take at least 1200 mg of ALA (and that may include side effects also) to even begin to hope to match the Stabilized Na R-ALA form but the stabilized version has much higher bioavailability. So it is probably between 5 to 40 times better than ALA so that makes purchasing ALA a waste of money. I can't verify at the moment whether it is 40 times.
Research has shown that unstabilized ALA absorbs better than unstabilized R-ALA so forget about unstabilized R-ALA.
Someone mentioned that sustained release form worked best. That is what helps maintain the levels in blood stream. That is probably the reason why they recommended taking it 4 times a day in NON-sustained release form. This is something to take into account when treating oneself to rid yourself of the painful symptoms.
They also had a dosage of 1200mg to 1800mg of ALA as effective. At least 600 mg of ALA was starting point for therapeutic effects. The stabilized form could cut that dose down to between 300 mg to 900 mg.
"Most ALA supplements sold today contain a 50/50 mixture of natural (R-Lipoic) and unnatural (S-Lipoic) Lipoic Acid. The S-Lipoic Acid form, which is not found in nature, is a byproduct of chemical synthesis.
Research indicates that not only does the human body have difficulty absorbing this unnatural version, it may actually inhibit the most essential properties of the R-Lipoic Acid form.
The “R” form is considered the biologically superior form because it is identical to the ALA produced by the body.
Unfortunately, without special processing, R-Lipoic Acid is highly unstable and difficult to absorb.
This problem has been solved with the introduction of Bio-Enhanced? R-Lipoic Acid, the world’s first stabilized RLA." Geronova is one of the companies doing research into this."
03/03/2014: Kristine from Chicago, Illinois: "Thank you so much. Prioris, will do re: the Stabilized ALA. I feel so much better, it's amazing. Becca, I failed to mention that I have been brushing my teeth with baking soda only, dating back to June. I tried to switch back to regular toothpaste a few weeks ago but couldn't handle the increased burning. I've had 3 great days in a row (I would rank my burning pain at a 0-2 all day long) and have had no need for Norco. I am drinking only alkaline water, rather than regular bottled water since last week and will try your remedy next time the burning increases, but hoping there isn't a next time. I also added back in an occasional glass of red wine (not suppose to have alcohol on reflux diet) as I have to say I do love it, and it completely takes away the burning.So to sum it up for any other sufferers, I currently have been on the Zegerid for 8 days at 20mg 2X a day, started the anti-reflux diet and alkaline water at same time, and have added ALA at 1,200mg per day 2 days ago. I have to reiterate how the chemistry of my mouth has completely changed since starting the Zegerid and diet, amongst so many other Silent Reflux symptoms diminishing.
I remain very hopeful, positive and blessed to regain control and have my life back. I cannot give enough thanks to EarthClinic for hosting this site, Ashley for her original posting, and Prioris and Becca for staying with me and helping so very much. 2 years and 8 months now, 11 or more doctors later, and finally, some hope for relief of this horribly chronic burning pain.
Kristine"
03/10/2014: Becca from Abilene, Tx: "to Kristine from Chicago....just wondering how you were doing. I am 4 days on the Stabilized R ALA and have seen even more improvement than on the regular ALA. Definitely worth the extra money. I still take 3 capsules in the morning...but its only 450mg instead of 900mg. So far, that has been enough for the whole day."
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I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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02/19/2014: Stephen from New Jersey: "Did this really work? This site says yes, but there are so many that say its impossible. I just don't know."
02/20/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Stephan, why don't you try it? They are salad dressing ingredients so it can't hurt you!!"
02/20/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Stephan, why don't you try it? They are salad dressing ingredients so it can't hurt you!!"
02/21/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "I have used lemon juice four times to knock out kidney stones. 1/2 lemon per glass of water 6 times daily. After 4 days it passed."
02/22/2014: Stephen from New Jersey: "Ok. I started this method this morning at 8:00 am. Just had my second at 12:50 pm and will do the last one around 6:00 pm. While I have no pain, I did have a CT scan and it showed a small 1mm stone in the ureter. My symptom is the constant urge to pee and this stone is the cause. I will keep you posted."
02/23/2014: Stephen from New Jersey: "On day two---- drinking the lemon juice and olive oil is not bad at all. No stone yet--- but still have urgency to urinate. Waiting..."
02/24/2014: Sondra from Austin, Tx: "I too suffer as all of you. They say it is genetic and I do not absorb calcium the way that is normal. I currently have a few lingering in my kidneys and the largest is a 1cm. I can feel it but really do not want to go thru another surgery, this would be my 4th in 3 yrs. I have tried the coke and asparagus in the past and I am fairly certain I exploded a very large stone into 13 small ones which passed in about 5 days - they all passed at once! I am ready to head out on a dream vaca and have some worry that this stone may break free while I am abroad. Do y'all think I should take my chances and try to lemon and olive oil before I leave or chance it and wait? Most of all do you think it could possibly tackle such a large stone? I also have had 3 kidney infections from stones so don't want to deal with that abroad! Thx"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "If you go on vacation, I would take the Renavive product. It will address infection and stones. Plus it is convenient to take. It will pass the stones out as sludge. As far as whether you should go on vacation, use your intuition."
Mon, 24 Feb 14 23:15:16 -0600
The thing is I had a frozen lasagna probably McCains or something like that and of course I heated it in the oven for the requisite time.
Good idea on CS. Have some in my fridge. Thanks for your input. Morgana"
I have studied holistic health for most of my life and this medicine and its effects have worried me over the last almost two years. I am in a situation now where I cannot afford to buy it any longer either.
My concern is that I don't know what to take to cure the problem because of my symptoms so if anyone here has similar please let me know. People here have great success with ACV and Baking Soda. I did use baking soda before the problem got so intense I had to have the gastroscopy.
By the way at this time two years ago I did a 12 day fast on just organic aloe vera juice from whole foods I was that desperate. After that I decided to have a some organic veggie juice thinking I could now drink it and OMG it didn't last a moment in my system. Definitely it did me no good at all.
I throw up even water, but some foods surprisingly I discovered by accident I can keep down. I.e. pasta with cheese sauce, which I hadn't eaten for thirty years not liking it prior, but it was served for dinner where I was visiting. This blew my mind when I realized I wouldn't be throwing it up. Hard boiled eggs with a bit of butter I can keep down too. Veggies I can't keep down either. The problem I have is that I can't get past a mouthful of ACV without it coming right back up. I also have a greens organic, and a non-GMO, non-dairy, non-Soy protein powder full of good healthy ingredients, which I used to blend with coconut milk, and now I can't drink that either since stopping the PPI. I can only now drink little sips of water otherwise it comes back. Teas all come back after a mouthful. Coffee is out of the question entirely.
There must be a way to cure this and heal it holistically. I refuse to believe I have to live with this Dexilant which I read increases the possibility of stomach cancer if taking it over a long period. I also have osteoporosis before taking Dexilant and it must be even worse now. I feel that I am in very critical condition.
Another thing that happens is that the moment I even go to take my medication for hypothyroid and reach for the glass of water that my upper abdomen immediately swells and hurts and I haven't even had a sip yet. I sleep practically sitting up and now I also have developed this cough that causes me to throw up. I bring up a very clear gel like substance, not a mucous that is thick and then up comes my water or anything I have taken.
I would appreciate hearing back about this. Thanks."
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: It's obvious that the acid factor of ACV irritates your Esophagus, so do drop that. I had the same problem w/ the thyroid meds. One of the noticeable symptoms of hypothyroid is reduced ability to swallow, which implies that the esophagus is directly effected by insufficient thyroid hormones.So, the only way to bring about a fix is to treat the esophagus and the thyroid simultaneously. Starting w/ the thyroid, take the magnet on your refrigerator and apply it to your thyroid glands for 10 min 2x day. Switch from levothyroxine to Armor Thyroid meds w/ any luck from your MD. supplement Lugols Iodine (much info here on E.C.). Take 500mg L-Tyrosine 1x day for two weeks and then up to 500mg 2x day. At this point you may need to split the thyroid med in half but you will need thyroid checked for sure. Vit-E is very good for protecting all the glands and thus improving their function. The best form of E is mixed Tocopherols & Tocotrienols. Coconut Oil is also very good for the T.
Now for the esophagus. Burst 5,000 iu Vit-A in mouth and let it slowly drain down the throat or take small spoon of Cod Liver Oil by mouth using the slow method. 15 minutes later suck an Elderberry/Zinc Lozenge. These two should both strengthen and soothe. DGL form of Licorice will also help soothe."
02/22/2014: Jos from Thailand: "Hi to Morganaspirit in Vancouver,Sorry to hear of your gastric problems, have you tried mixing food thickeners to your food and drinks? There is a product called Nestagel which works quite well and helps to keep food down and without irritation, I believe it's mainly used for children and elderly people but maybe worth experimenting with, also try to research other food thickners which maybe of benefit to you as they coat the lining of your osophegus, and help to stop the burning sensation. Weight loss may be a problem for you and when desperate try Bengers food, another "old fashioned" food for invalids and children with hiatal hernia problems. Keeping yourself raised up when sleeping is essential for your oesophageal probs and I really wish you well. I had a young baby with reflux and I learnt about thickening food to keep it down in her stomach, I appreciate you are not an invalid but thought some of these ideas may help you."
02/22/2014: Mike62 from Denver: "Morganaspirit: I am not sure I can assist you but I can try. I am not sure why but I like to study the food plants, animals, and well people eat. After reading your sad story of so much suffering I am surprised you are alive. The reason I say this is because the cells require proper nourishment. When they don't get enough they eat the tissues. I believe this to be the root cause. I was very sick. The way I got well was to experiment. This is hard for a sick person to do so maybe getting a loved one to assist would be a good idea. Vegetables want to be fertilizer for the seeds so they make some of their nutrients hard to digest to discourage herbivores from eating them. Fruits want to be eaten for herbivores to propagate the seeds. Their nutrients are easily digested. The most easily digestible fruit is banana. Whole Foods has whole trade bananas. These are organically grown but lack the costly certification. They are also the least costly. You can try raw wildflower honey. Avocados are also easy to digest. Because you were able to eat cheese, eggs, and butter, you can try raw vital pastured eggs, raw grass fed hamburger, colostrum, and raw cheese. You can try black chia seeds. They are less costly online. Brown Cow plain yogurt might be beneficial. In my opinion you are going to have to find some raw organic and grass fed whole foods that you can eat so you can recover."
02/23/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morganspirit, sounds like you have to have well-cooked, easily digestible foods for right now. Look into Traditional Chinese Medicine for your situation."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you Timh from Ky, and Somewhere, Europe, jos from Thailand, and Mike 62 from Denver. I appreciate all of your input. I do love avocadoes Mike, bananas I am very allergic to unfortunately cause I love them.Jos, food thickeners sound like a very good idea because they coat the lining of the esophagus. I have never heard of them so will research as soon as I get off this site.
Timh, I do take desiccated thyroid. Learned that one a few years ago! But you are right that the thyroid seems to be mixed up with everything. I never thought of using a magnet on my thyroid but what a great idea. I need a lot of thyroid every day so it would be amazing to split it in half. I will certainly try the Vit-A. Does it taste fishy though? Thinking of Cod liver oil you mentioned. Aside from the esophagus problems I have a very difficult time with smells, especially fishy smell. I can't even walk into a fish store without throwing up. I take coconut oil and use it for cooking. Perhaps that would work as well as Vit-A?
I am going to try these ideas you all gave me today, and Somewhere, Europe you suggested TCM. I went to a naturopath who taught at the TCM college here and he was useless. His big plan was for me buy his protein powder and take that daily as well as pay him $150/hr for his consult. He gave me a sample and it upchucked within five minutes so I am a bit distrustful of TCM if that is the recommendation. I like the ones I got here today and will use them all. Thank you."
02/23/2014: Gtcharlie from Los Angeles, Ca: "Hi Morganaspirit,I want to chip in a few points here that is away from the main drag; not with the intention to negate what others say, but to add a different approach that is more in line with the Eastern philosophy.
1. Avoid all cold drinks or foods, including raw foods taken cold, even water from the refrigerator! Because you don't want to excite your stomach needlessly. And you don't want to lower your body's core temperature suddenly either. So, please stick to foods/drinks that are a bit above lukewarm, but way lower than to burn your mouth.
2. Use ginger as often as you can, but not as much as you can. Large amount of ginger can upset your stomach, in moderation, it can curb regurgitation effectively. Ginger can also warm your stomach up which will reduce the excessive stomach acid. GERD can be from insufficient stomach acid in some cases especially with the elderlies. But judging from what you say about the ACV, it is not your case.
The best way is to take a ginger tea with honey daily - thinly cut fresh ginger 15-20 slices with skin on, add in 8 oz of water and bring it to boil. Remove from the stove and stir in one t-spoon honey. Press the ginger slices a bit while mixing the honey in with the spoon. Save half of this concoction in a thermal for later use. Sip this tea slowly as hot as you can take. Inhale the steam through your nostrils while waiting for the tea to cool down a bit. By doing so, you can warm up your upper chest. Reheat the rest from the thermal a few hours later to finish it. Less in amount and more in frequency is the key to avoid burdening your stomach. If you can take in the whole 8 oz once, then brew a second cup later.
Always add some fresh ginger in your cooking. Ginger candy is a good choice for snacking.
If you like cinnamon, you can use it to replace ginger at times or supplementing the ginger tea with it. But be sure to buy the cinnamon from Indonesia or Srilanka since it is for medicinal purpose. You will find them at Amazon.
3. Take liquid foods for easy digestion; thick soap like beef and barley is a good choice. Avoid foods that cause bloating and gas. Chew slowly and longer when eating solid foods to let the saliva to breakdown carbohydrates. Proper nutrition plays a big part in one's health!
4. Rub your stomach often: use both hands to rub your stomach (right under the sternum) with a little pressure. Move in a circular motion and reverse the direction alternatively. Give it a few pumps if you can in between. Do it before meals and relax your stomach muscle by practicing deep breathing at times. You need to strengthen your diaphram.
If these help and when situation is stabilized, you can start making fresh potato juice in the morning and drink it with an empty stomach - at least half an hour prior to breakfast. Add an apple if you like. But be sure to leave both the potato and apple out of the refrigerator to prevent taking in cold liquid in the morning!
Potato juicing is good to curb cancer cells, and for any ulcer too! A very popular remedy in Asia popularized by a welknown Japanese monk.
All the best to you!"
02/24/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Morganaspirit: Yes, the Cod Liver Oil or Vit-A smells like fish, so you will need to fallow it directly w/ Elder/Zinc Lozenge. The Iodine/L-Tyrosine will likely be necessary in improving your T hormone status for the short-term until you do the Magnet, Vit-A, and Zinc begin protecting and healing the Thyroid. All this has worked for me as my last test showed normal without having previously taken levothyroxine for many weeks.Do report your results for others."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morganaspirit,Really, my heart goes out to you...you have suffered so much.
I love what the EC writers have posted and have two observations:
First, to add to the previous suggestions on what you might be able to eat, have you tried papaya? The raw fruit, not the capsules but the fruit itself?
Papaya is an amazing fruit packed with enzymatic power... soothing to the lining of irritated throat and stomach...it is wonderfully anti nausea. What ever is causing the problem, you certainly are deficient in enzymes and a good starting point is papaya. Start with the real fruit as I said and after eliminating the tiny black seeds (a good source of anti parasites) just take a tiny bit on spoon and eat. If no negative reaction, try a quarter teaspoon and so forth until you can eat a quarter cup at a time. If you can tolerate that much, the Papaya will start its wonder working impact on your system.
Second, I'd love to more find out the CAUSE of what you are experiencing. I understand the Barretts Syndrome diagnosis, but I mean before that. Here is my point; We are dealing with (largely) what you can eat now. That is vital because clearly there is a sense of urgency here...and that is why I threw in my suggestion of papaya. But all these suggestions, by and large, speak to the symptoms and do not address the cause.
I guessed one possible cause as an enzyme deficiency issue but that might more fit the symptom category.
Would you please give us some more information on the history of what led to this problem. I'm always wondering at causation and try to get to the bottom line cause for the symptoms. Often I find an infection that preceded symptoms, for instance.
So...could you give a brief history... like this; when did you first begin experiencing difficulties...from youth? From birth? Do you suspect genetic? As I said, I've often found a viral/ fungal ... pathogenic trigger, and hence "basis" for the symptoms.
Here's a typical story line...maybe it fits and maybe not: Victim X suffers from nausea for past five years. X first experienced illness four months after visiting Caribbean islands. Doctors cannot find cause. Possible answer; Parasites.
Or: Victim Y suffers from endocrine system issues with manifold symptoms. Six months prior to symptoms, suffered from severe case of strep. Possible cause; virus.
So, anything you can tell us as to cause...more of the history can help with underlying cause solution."
02/23/2014: Morganaspirit from Vancouver, Canada: "Thank you GT Charlie. I discovered this thing about not having cold water this week and on the weekend when it finally hit me that my overnight lukewarm water had not bothered me at all to drink it. Usually I have it ice cold from the frig and so you are right on there. I will slice up my ginger and try that again. I use to make fresh ginger tea. I used to also keep fresh slices in my water jug to sip on as well and I see it is time to do this again. Cinammon too I love so will make sure it comes from Indonesia or Sri Lanka. Thanks so much for your input.Unfortunately I used the PPI Dexilant to get through the past two years and it is only when I realized it was also not working as well, that is when I knew I had to tackle this problem now. My problem is that I work 12 hr days and alot of that time is sitting at my desk and that is a problem too with that pressure. I spose I can heat up the ginger tea in the microwave at work although I hate to use it. Thanks again."
02/24/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Hee, hee, Morganspirit, I learn the Chinese stuff that I want, off the Internet and from books. I take the info that seems right to me and experiment with that. Why pay? Having said that, I did go to a practitioner to get the Chinese "diagnosis name" of my condition (according to them. I always take it all with a grain or two of Celtic Salt :))."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Canada: "Timh from Ky, I cannot tolerate even the smell of fish oil. I would be heaving before getting the capsule close to my throat but I was thinking that perhaps coconut oil might be a good substitute. Thanks. By the way I have a very sensitive stomach. Even happening upon a dead fly makes me vomit.To Dave:
Dave thanks for your reply. I do love papaya, but so many fruits made me throw up in the past three and half years that I gave up on them. I will try your suggestion with just a tiny amount at a time. I do know it has powerful enzymes and if it stays down, it would be wonderful to eat it as much as I can keep down.
As to the beginning of this problem, acid reflux began about five years ago at age 59, but it wasn't until the end of 2010 that it began to be uncomfortable.Up to the acid reflux beginning the only time I had stomach problems was my horrid reaction to smelly things or revolting looking things and then anything I had in my gut came up. I was one of those women during pregnancy who vomited the whole nine months.
Actually interesting you bring up possible parasites as a source cause I used to wonder about that. The day it began I had bought myself a frozen lasagne to have for a quick meal after work. I had just begun my present job the month before, twelve hour days and was too exhausted to stand at the counter and cook after a long day beginning at 4am.
This is the first time in my life I bought one of those dinners, since my preference is more holistic and fresh food, but I did and that night I did have a violent reaction like a stomach flu which continued for several days and then I caught a bad cold which turned into a bad chest infection. The chest infections have been recurring over the years since childhood when hay fever first hit. It always changed to chest infections which lasted for weeks and weeks and that could be asthma I found out recently.
Since I never got stomach flu's ever, it has only now occurred to me that it might not have been the lasagne at all and that it could have been a bad flu beginning with stomach and turning into the chest infection.
Back to the problem. I was coughing very much, pulling tummy muscles when the problem began late 2010, and this continued for weeks. After that finally ended the real problem began in my stomach and upper abdomen. Those weeks of horrid gut wrenching coughing must have caused the hiatal hernia. It just got worse and worse and my doctor sent me on the rounds to have ultrasounds on every organ and nothing showed up and finally after a year of this and being in exactly the state where I am now, I insisted on seeing a gastroenterologist and then had that diagnosis after a gastroscopy and biopsy, and told I had to take Dexilant for life.
It was such a relief to have a solution that I happily took those pills and then when I found out just how dire it is to the system it began to make me very uneasy and to want to find another way. I really didn't think there was another way until finding this forum...so then I have hope.
Another thing that happens when I have anything at all, even lukewarm water my tummy area around my belly button as a centre swells and hurts immediately and as I said it can begin before I even have the liquid or food.
I remembered giving my dog Slippery Elm when he had digestive issues and am thinking that perhaps that might be a good thing to drink prior to eating anything or drinking anything even water. Funny how I never thought of that before.
By the way, my job hours are very stressful for me and I have been doing it almost four years and that may have alot to do with it too. Next year I will be 65 and can retire so maybe that will make a difference if I can get through this without it all turning to esophageal cancer.
Thanks for your input and for any further suggestions."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello again Morgana (spirit) from Canada,So excited to get your follow up post!
The "history" of your disease ... and yours is indeed a disease is now much better understood by your last post.
You gave a great lay out of the key events and here's what I think given the evidence concerning the issue of causation and what is underlying the symptoms.
As you said, the day it all started (building on some reflux already present but not the main issue)... was the uncooked lasagna. I gather it was either under cooked or just let get to room temp from frozen condition. Couldn't tell which, but got for sure that it was not cooked.
Whatever... the problem was in the Lasagna. What was in it? Do you recall? And I doubt if you'd remember but do you recall if it was an imported variety. THAT would really give us a good slap on the huntin' dog's back if we knew it was a Mediterranean import. (Lots of Montezuma's revenge...yes, the Mediterranean... not just Mexico.) Amoeba, e coli, etc etc. are possible. Look up Amoebic dysentery on Wikipedia. The one of some interest is the "trophozoite" which is an amoeba that is non cyst forming. That amoeba produces symptoms without hurting liver. You need the BEST parasitologist to exclude the possibility that you do NOT have such infection.
Montezuma's revenge can be either viral or bacterial.
And let's just talk "mundane" infections caused by a good ol' American virus, fungus or bacteria.
You got the infection .... whatever it is from the lasagna. "The day it started..." that was the uncooked lasagna day.
What to do? Well, if me, I've already said I'd get a parasitologist to eliminate the possibility of parasites... and next...if not parasites, go to the old standbys to kill infections....Colloidal Silver (I now do a little dance at the mention of CS ... no doubt the Cherokee blood that runs through me).
I'd take a lot...I would be drinking at least six teaspoons of CS daily on empty stomach (which is what you usually have). I wrote a little article that the EC staff was nice enough to post under "Colloidal Silver" ...the Remedies section. I think mine's the second one.
So my contention is that CS will kill the underlying infection, if the experts say the problem is not a parasite. There are "natural" parasite killers covered in Earth Clinic, but after reading the autobiography "MD" which is about a parasitologist, I think I'd first get a determination of whether the cause just might be parasitic.
But do look at the Wiki article on Amoebic dysentery I mentioned and see if the symptoms discussed with the two types of amoeba relate to your problem. If not.... turn to virus killers....eg.....CS."
02/24/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Morgana,A paragraph I failed to put into the long post just below this one....yes a bad infection as you mentioned from childhood could be the cause... Still....either would indicate an infection as the cause. And that's what we're looking for ... the cause."
02/24/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "hi Dave,The thing is I had a frozen lasagna probably McCains or something like that and of course I heated it in the oven for the requisite time.
Good idea on CS. Have some in my fridge. Thanks for your input. Morgana"
02/25/2014: Morgana from Vancouver, Bc: "An update. Just wanted to tell you who contributed to my question that I am able to hold down avocado and papaya, so today for work I made myself a little salad with those, but I also added raw zucchini which I knew would be okay and I use the spiralizer to make it look like spaghetti. I also added raw apple and voila I have kept it all down and no heartburn.It is a beginning and beats having to survive on fettucine, which is not something I like but when it was the only thing to stay down for a meal, what the heck.
Morgana"
02/26/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "Morgana, thanks for coming back to report. We're delighted at the good news, it's a very good start!"
02/27/2014: Ed from Ct.: "Many things can bring on a hiatal hernia...most common is while sitting- bending at the waist, as if to tie shoes. This will force the stomach into the diaphram. When the irritation begins things to avoid, temporally, (for 7 to 10 days) would be tomato sauce, spicy foods, COFFEE, too much ruffage as raw veggies, rice, and alcohol.What to eat would be stewed veggies, pasta-no tomato sauce. Cream sauce and the like is OK. Mainly soft foods. They do not have to be bland just not spicy. This will also cut down on acid reflux. And indigestion.
If this becomes chronic, a visit to a chiropractor that practices kenisiology Is in order. I do not know if ACV helps with this as I have not had to try it as yet."
Mon, 24 Feb 14 23:14:32 -0600
Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
Is this the zapper you're referring to from eBay(the scaled down version)?
I have multiple health concerns. Viruses, bacteria, candida, and other unknown/undiagnosed conditions as well. You had mentioned the zapper to me before in a different topic.
I think it's time to seriously consider getting myself one. I just want to make sure I get the right one. I'm certainly not looking to purchase one that's expensive. Lord knows the amount of $ we've already spent in trying to get my health back. However, I do want to get one that truly works for multiple health issues like me. Thanks Timh!"
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "I would rotate, on a daily basis, the for-mentioned but also add Baking Soda and Borax for alkalization. Alkalization is a critical first step, without which may not see positive results of any other therapy.Also, as I have been zapping my spine in a successful endeavor the kill fungal meningitis, as well as some species of bacteria in my shoulder blades also with success; but I am also experiencing an additional benefit of killing warts and tags in that area which have been problematic for several yrs on. I have been scrapping and pulling pieces of these nasty growths off my shoulders and back for several days now. I would advise the use of the Don Croft Terminator Zapper as they are the best in use of small local area like the nose. An E-Bay seller has a scaled down model for about $35.00 if one cannot afford the $100+ 2nd edition Croft Zapper.
If rotating all these does not prove effective, a salve containing Bloodroot will likely put an end to this C. Also, one could apply Ozone from one of the generators designed especially for food & water purification. A small hose is included so the Ozone will concentrate if applied about 1/4-1/2 inch from the nose surface."
02/09/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "My apologies for not being specific; I did mean Topically."
02/11/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, this one is the scaled down version of the Terminator Zapper. I would not recommend this one for whole body zapping unless it is used in conjunction w/ any basic 30 khz zapper w/ handles. This model is best used for local application.Personally, zapping has been one of the most effective remedies I have used for chronic parasite & pathogen infections which have almost claimed my life in the past two yrs. I have only very recently found it absolutely necessary to zap w/ three different 30 khz zappers 3 times a day for aprox 30 min. per session. And I can say that I am finally getting the upper hand.
As for economy, a basic zapper is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remedies I know of. I would recommend this little Terminator Zapper along w/ another basic Hulda Clark (or equivalent) used simultaneously in your severe condition. Have some charcoal, clay or fiber ready because you will experience some rather severe herx. for a few days. Also, you may want to consider purchasing a 9 volt battery and recharge unit so you will save from having to purchase several non-recharge 9 volt batteries. You should get something like 40 hrs use from one battery.
Also, zapping increases the potency of pharmaceutical meds so do not zapp while medicating, unless you as much as half the dose."
02/11/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Timh for your reply back to me!What about the Terminator II zapper that's more expensive than the basic zapper? There's some on eBay for around $130. Would I still need to get one of the Huda Clark zappers in addition to the Terminator II zapper as well? I'm really trying to avoid the zappers like the ones from Huda Clark that require wrist straps and being hand held.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is would the Terminator II zapper be sufficient for whole body zapping? I've read quite a bit about these zappers including some of the Huda Clark zappers. There seems to be quite a few to choose from with the Huda Clark line of handheld zappers.
Unless I'm confused, it seems the $130 Terminator II zapper would work for whole body zapping but then again I'm totally new to zapping. I definitely want a zapper that can treat the entire body. I know I have organs involved with my sickness/diseases. If I can do this by purchasing only 1 zapper then that would be ideal.
As for the die-off, I've been going through this off and on for about 2 years now. I seem to have very little progress. I can't tell half the time whether it's my symptoms of disease are getting worse of actual die-off. I know when I see all that strange stuff in the toilet it's definitely die-off.
I'm also going to get ChemBuster to use alongside whatever zapper(s) I purchase. Have you tried the ChemBuster homeopathic treatment with your zapper treatment Tim? Maybe you haven't heard of it but the information about it is from Don Croft's zapper site. Any suggestions/help are greatly appreciated!"
02/12/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The Terminator II Zapper is one of the top sellers w/ many people reporting benefits, so it seems you couldn't go wrong w/ it; my speculation is that the severity of your condition may require an additional zapper, like the basic Hulda C one which you can get for around $35.Do continue w/ your other nutrition based remedies and after introducing zapping you should see big improvements. Be sure to do an annual gallbladder as well as colon cleanse so to improve digestion & elimination.
No, I am not familiar w/ the chembuster. Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out.
Hope to hear good news from you soon."
02/14/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Timh!I just want to make sure I get the right basic Huda Clark zapper. Is this the right one or not? Huda Clark Zapper Would this one work even if it's not the basic HC zapper? Remember, I'm also getting the Terminator II zapper as well.
BTW, ChemBuster works with all zappers. It's just a homeopathic remedy that gains extra strength when placed beside a zapper for a few minutes before taking it. Supposed to work with all pathways in the body for better elimination of pathogens and supports all organ regeneration/repair. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/15/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, this one I have used w/ no problem for about 3 yrs. I got best results using this in a foot bath w/ added salt for conductivity; do this while using the terminator over glands and organs, including the spine. I think it was Beck who recommends zapping directly over the underside of the wrist for immediate blood purification."
02/18/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for replying back to me. So, the Huda Clark mini-zapper I linked is an acceptable one? That's good because it's not too expensive of an add-on to go with the Terminator II. Already purchased the Terminator II and waiting on shipment. Will go ahead now and also order the mini-zapper as well.That's interesting in you using the Huda Clark zapper with foot baths. I wasn't even thinking of using it this way. I know that the soles of our feet are a good detox pathway but it didn't even occur to me for zapping this way. I'll take your advice and use it in foot baths. Should I do the zapping foot baths daily as well? I assume you used sea salt and not table salt?
I plan on using the Terminator II for 30 minutes daily or so for the 1st week. I will gradually increase to where I can hopefully wear it 24 hours daily for a few weeks at one time. I pray that the detox/die-off isn't too bad. I've already been through enough suffering but if that's what it takes to get better then so be it. I have to stay strong! If things get too bad then I'll just reduce the zapping to a minimum until the detox symptoms get better.
I know that I have major overloads of various toxins and pathogens in my body. The doctors tell me I'm just fine! Yeah right! If I'm so fine then why in the heck am I still so sick? They have no clue! I know I'm very sick both physically and mentally. I don't need a doctor to tell me that anyhow! I know my body and we all know when something serious is wrong.
You don't have thyroid nodules along with goiter for nothing. Like Bill said, those symptoms alone are auto-immune Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. Those symptoms are only a drop in the bucket for me. No energy! Extreme fatigue! Weight loss issues! Prostate/sexual dysfunctional issues! HSV(Herpes Simplex Virus)! Candida overgrowth! Past renal failure! Swollen Lymph Nodes in neck! Anxiety/Depression! Chronic back pain! You name it and I probably have it at this point.
These are systemic issues and definitely signs of multiple auto-immune conditions. The only thing the doctors have hit it right on is the anxiety/depression but hey it's all in our heads/minds in their eyes right? Yeah right! All sickness is just in our heads in their view! It's just ridiculous!
BTW, I see that you mention using the Terminator II directly over glands and organs. Is it OK to actually use the Terminator II directly over the thyroid? This seems to be my major area of concern even though I have multiple glands/organs being affected. I read that the Terminator II safest place for usage is the wrist/palm and the bottom of your foot. Once the body turns more alkaline you can then move it to other places without the burning sensation. Is this correct?
What benefits could I expect from the Huda Clark mini-zapper in comparison to the Terminator II? I thought the Huda Clark zappers where designed more for direct organ/gland targeting while the Don Croft zappers are more for the bloodstream. Could you elaborate a little more on this?
I really appreciate your information and helping me. I especially thank you for introducing me to zapping. After all the research I've done about my health issues I never came across zapping. God sent you to me for a reason. Please answer my follow up questions in more details! Thanks again Tim & God Bless!"
02/19/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. You are welcome for my input as my condition somewhat mirrors yours.I don't suppose to be an expert on zapping but I can say that due to the severity of my condition, zapping has gone a long way in preserving my life above ground. I was born w/ a disability that weakened my immune & detox function, and slowed my neurology; as a result my health was challenged at age 26 as it could not heal properly and by age 32-3 I acquired a severe environmental disease that almost killed me in 1996. Like yourself I received very little help from md's and it was their best intrest to diagnose psychological disease. I have, however, received life-saving care when I needed it, for which I am grateful.
Anyway, yes I use sea salt for conductivity although I haven't taken a footbath zap for some time as I am zapping w/ three devices simultaneously w/ pretty good results. Due to autoimmunity I am faced w/ what appears to be almost impossible task of eradicating 3 species of parasites plus chronic active viral hepatitis, plus fungal, plus bacterial. I have made good progress treating the fungal over the last 3-4 months by zapping immediately fallowing taking 200mg fluconazole. You can buy fluconazole on Ebay for your fish aquarium without rx. It seems you would also benefit from herbal parasite detox so do address that very likely issue. I get best results w/ herbal para plus Glutamine. Glutamine is the main fuel source for the immune cells in the gut.
Back to zapping. I chose the Z4eX EXTREME 3 Frequency Hulda Clark Zapper over the terminator in early Jan 14 then also purchased the basic terminator for local zapping. I am somewhat satisfied w/ the little progress I've made lately but there is such a long way to go, so tonight I zappet w/ all three frequencies of the Z4eX using the copper handles and got good results. I am now resolved to use this method w/ footbath for max result. I am also going to purchase battery recharger as the 2.5KHz and 15Hz use much more energy. Do let me/us know how you fare with the terminator2 and basic Hulda. My guess is you will show some noticeable improvement but other remedies will be required for any lasting and big relief. So, just experiment around with these two and report your results."
02/19/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank you so much Tim for yet another very detailed and helpful reply. It certainly is eery similar in our health conditions. My mind has been in a whirlwind for the past few years. I've taken so many different supplements. Researched so much information about my health. My mind and body is tired for sure but I keep fighting the fight of faith.Seems like everything I try gives me either very little results or no results at all. I can't say the same as you in regards to life-saving care from medical doctors. When I had kidney failure back in 2012, I was only given IV fluids for my renal failure. They gave me absolutely nothing to help regenerate my kidney function. Baking soda water you could say saved my life but it was really Jesus Christ that allowed me more time here on this earth.
Even though my BUN and Creatinine numbers kept going up the hospital NEVER gave me anything other than IV fluids to help my kidneys. I thought for sure that my life on earth was coming to an end. Jesus had other plans though. So, I can't give the doctors any credit for saving my life. They could have done more but why they didn't is beyond my understanding.
As for the Diflucan, I will not ever take that stuff again. I was given two different courses of this medicine before I had kidney failure. I had pretty severe side effects from this drug. They were treating me for fungal issues but said I didn't have any fungal infections. Go figure! I know I have fungal overgrowth. I have a white coated tongue as a major proof. I was told that was perfectly normal for my age! Geez!
I'm not on any meds Tim. I've been able to stop the meds I was taking. Thank God for that!
I've even been able to stop my anxiety/depression meds. I believe this is due to higher dose niacin and magnesium. I think the niacin has tackled both blood pressure issues as well as my depression/anxiety. Niacin is well known for helping mental issues and a hosts of other health problems as well.
I too know that I have multiple pathogens involved. Viral, bacterial, fungal, and possibly even worms. My wife was diagnosed having worms a couple years ago. I probably have them as well. I've stopped going to all my doctors too Tim. They always look at me like I'm crazy and I'm just flat out sick and tired of it.
My nerves got so bad at one point that I had to be hospitalized temporarily in a mental unit. They still wouldn't give me anything strong enough to help my nerves. They haven't helped me at all. Made things worse on me by acting like they have and no help medically either.
I too purchased a set of rechargeable batteries to go along with a charger. I bought the charger type that will recharge multiple sorts of batteries(AA, AAA, C, D, 9V). Don't wanna have to fool with having to keep buying regular batteries. I'm going to put this Terminator II zapper to use for sure.
I'm actually going to a plan of treatment for mainly viral overload for a while. I'm going to use the BHT treatment protocol to go along with zapping of course. I've been treating almost exclusively for candida for the past 2 years now with very little progress. I know that I have candida overgrowth but I also have HSV.
So, treating the viral overload with a certain few supplements(BHT, Vit C, Monolaurin, B Complex, & standard multi-vitamin) and zapping then I will have all pathogens covered for treatment. This will also cut down on me having to take sooooooooo many different supplements. I'm absolutely tired of keeping up with 15+ supplements taken daily. Especially when I see basically no results.
HSV is probably the longest running sickness I've had going on. I've had it for close to 20 years now. Never taken any prescription meds for it either. Only L-Lysine treatment but that has been off and on through the years. All of my doctors tell me that HSV has absolutely nothing to do with my health issues. I know better!
Anyhow, I'll get back here with results on my progress. I want to thank you for being such a great help. I feel like I personally know you now. I guess it's because of our similar circumstances. Thanks again and God Bless you Tim!"
02/20/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. It's sure good that there are means & ways for society's rejects. My relations w/ md's continues a path of deterioration. The only real solution is this alternative route.I don't know if you have had hair analysis but it may be worth it or simply do some natural chelation. As for the parasite probability, buy a bottle of Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, and Wormwood and add some glutamine taken at least twice a day. One of the big problems w/ parasites is they excrete all kinds of nasty stuff like acids, bacteria, viruses, funguses. These infections will never respond to treatment because the source continues there existence.
As for the viral, I have been taking BHT for almost 2 yrs now. I take 250mg 2x day. For maximum effect I fallow the BHT 15 min. later w/ one of the antiviral herbs: Chanca Piedra, Echinacia, or St JohnsWort.
For my kidneys I occasionally take either D Mannose or cranberry fallowed 30 minutes later w/ Dr Christopher's herbal. Kidney/bladder formula.
If you cannot tolerate the "conazole" antifungals you may want to consider Lufeneuron. I have had good results w/ L.
Maintain a positive mental attitude, be very smart and aggressive has been one of my mantras lately.
If you haven't tried Lipo C you may better read up on that. I have been doing home made Lipo C, Borax, and herbal para all with lifesaving effects. I began last Aug and I can say that I would not be alive today were it not for those remedies."
02/19/2014: Justin from Chiapas, Mexico: "Hello Mmsg from Somewhere Europe,my name is Justin and I just came across your posting because it was related to Zappers. I don't know a whole lot about Zappers though I did buy one some years back ....I got the Terminator.
I'm not sure if anyone has already suggested this but are you familiar with a substance called "black salve"? I think it is primarily made from a few plants that grow in the dessert of SW USA, though for all I know people are also making it in other parts of the world. Anyway it is all natural. I first learned aboat it by reading something Jim Humble had written aboat using both MMS in conjunction with this specific black salve called "Indian Herb". Google them and you will find their web site. people with cancers and other illnesses have been treating them selves externally and internally with this salve. And from all that I have read and the Youtube videos I have seen the stuff really works. There are video blogs of people who apply black salve directly on top of there carcenomas and within a few days the salve actually eats down into the cancer and pulls it out by the roots. Leaving behind a clean hole where the cancer was and Then in time the skin just grows back and the body heals itself. I read aboat one guy who had prostate cancer and he cured himself by smearing black salve directly onto his cancer. Really I think it is a miraculous medicine, though I can not speak from personal experience seeing as I have never used it.
I purchased this salve some years back and called the business just to ask about the product and I got the owner on the phone. And she was super sweet and took the time to answer my questions.
cool well I sincerely hope you find the remedy and treatment to heal yourself. I wish you all the very best.....justin"
02/20/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another great response. I have not had a hair analysis done because around here for some reason they want too much to do it. I read that it's supposed to be relatively cheap but there are only a couple options here locally and they want too much to have it done. The homeopathic doctor that was treating me I WILL NOT go back to her period. She got over $3,000 of our savings in just a 4 month period. I saw no results!I have used chelated minerals and supplements but they just like most other supplements I've used don't seem to do much either. I had told you about ChemBuster. This is a combination remedy of 13 different substances to use with zapping. A zapper placed beside the bottle for 5-10 minutes before taking makes it more potent.
The 13 total ingredients are 4 herbals and 9 homeopathics. I don't think I'll need to take any other herbal combination formula for parasites. One particular compound in the ChemBuster is solely for parasites. The substance is called Juglans nigra 6X.
I also don't want to take too much stuff. Lord knows I was having major problems keeping up with taking all I've been taking. I want to take as least amount of supplements as possible to go with zapping. Zapping is going to be my main area of focus for a while. I will have both the Terminator II zapper and one of the Huda Clark mini-zappers hopefully by early next week. Shipment is on its way!
To be honest, I'm actually excited to know that I may have finally came across something that will finally make a turnaround for me that doesn't involve taking something internally. I'm tired of so many darn supplements. I'm still going to take a few supplements. Like the ones I had mentioned in my previous reply.
I think I will add some Glutamine as per your suggestion. Maybe some probiotcs as well. I have the probiotics already on hand but will have to order some Glutamine. Do you have a preferred brand of Glutamine or will most any brand work?
I've also never heard of Lufeneuron. Is this a drug or natural supplement?
I try to maintain a positive attitude. It's been really hard. There's times that I don't even feel like getting out of bed. I do keep pushing on with the strength through Jesus. I also have a wonderful wife and a son that makes me keep wanting to live. I have came close at times to giving up. I'm just being flat out honest here. When you feel this bad it's hard to keep going. But, I do with the help of Jesus and my family.
I've also not heard of Lipo C either. I'll do some Googling on that one too. Borax hasn't done anything for me either. As a matter of fact, not much success at all in the fungal part of my sickness/disease.
I'll keep you posted on my results. Just waiting now on my zappers to arrive to get things going again. Then, I'll start back on the supplements again as well. Hopefully with this new approach things will start to get better soon. I'm just looking for better days ahead! Thanks again for your help and God Bless you Tim!"
02/22/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: Yes, the zapping will likely help enough to get some energy and confidence back into your fight. The Glutamine will also help in conjunction w/ probiotics. Whatever Glutamine you can find at a good price, either caps, tabs or powder. Athlete's use much G as it helps build muscle, so it is very available. You will most definitely prosper from the lipo-c. You can make it at home at low cost but high results. Lipo-C is demonstrated several times more powerful by volume than I.V. C. Several good vids on YouTube. Here is a link specifically for production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBp879mfgI. This is the method I use.You may need to also try some DGL/Allantoin to rebuild your gut. It's been a mainstay for me for many yrs. I only take it when I have a flair up. "
02/22/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim for a response back to me!I now have received both zappers. Started with the Terminator II last night. Placed it on the right sole of my foot. Left it on all night. It was a little uncomfortable especially with my night-time bathroom trips. However, wake up this morning to see two black spots where the copper discs were on my sole. That's a good sign of detox. It's gonna take a few days to get used to using overnight.
I also have been zapping in specific areas with the Terminator II. Received it yesterday and the Huda Clark mini-zapper today. Gonna do a session with that zapper later today. 3X 7 minute session w/20 minutes in between.
I've tried the Terminator II on different areas but some areas I get a pretty significant stinging/burning sensation. That just tells me how acidic my body is in. Even get the burning on my back/spine. Tried the neck/thyroid area temporarily but way too much stinging there. Doesn't surprise me there with my thyroid issues.
Not bad at all in the stomach area(liver, spleen, pancreas, etc.) so using it there quite a bit. I also know I have serious digestive issues. Will wait for the acidity to subside before going back to the neck area. Hopefully, I can go to the back/spine area soon as well. I know I have spine issues too! Too much pain in my entire back area.
Once I get a few days of zapping with the Huda Clark one then hopefully that will take care of helping in the bloodstream so I can start using the Terminator II in multiple areas without the burning sensation.
Is it OK to zap with both units at the same time? Thought about doing that too!
I just went ahead and ordered some Lipo C from eBay. The brand made by Dr. Mercola. I've used his products in the past. They do work better than most for me. Especially his immune formula with medicinal mushrooms. His products are too high in price though. I do respect his view on health though.
Isn't DGL Licorice? I remember reading about that I believe in the past. Maybe I have the initials wrong thinking it's something else and not Licorice.
Staying positive and by your suggestion also staying aggressive. Was going to go slower with the Terminator zapping at only 30 minutes daily to start but decided to use it longer. 8-16 hours daily to start is what I'm shooting for and that includes the overnight usage during sleep.
Tim, could you tell me how to properly take a foot bath with the Clark zapper? Do I actually place the copper tubes in the foot bath water and then place my feet into a sea salt water solution with the tubes in place? Can't find any specific instruction on the net for this. Don't want to cause any dangerous problems with this foot bath. Please tell me how this is to be done. Thanks!
In a week or two I'm gonna shoot for the entire 24 hour day with the Terminator II and the 3X 7 minute daily zapping session with the other zapper. Thanks again for your time and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony. Good to hear of your beginning zapping. Using both at the same time will be the most powerful as will the footbath. There is a web article on the fbz somewhere and I have posted the link somewhere here on E.C. so a search here should bring it up. I use separate containers one for each foot w/ warm sea salt water. Place the copper handle between the first and second toes for stabilization. I experienced major herx reaction for almost a week during my first fbz.DGL is the "safe" form of licorice and used in conjunction w/ the Allantoin will heal the gut rapidly.
I forgot to respond to your Lufenuron question. Lufenuron is an otc pet meds for controlling fleas but someone discovered that it also kills fungus by inhibiting the hard exoskeleton Chitin layer that protects the fleas and funguses. Lufenuron is a safe chemical compound listed as a "chitin inhibitor"."
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Tim for yet another reply. I've taken some time to search here at EC for the footbath suggestions but way too many results. Looked through a few of them but no luck finding your specific comment/link. Are the alligator clips actually safe in water? That was my main concern with the footbaths with a zapper like the Huda Clark ones. I know the Terminator II zapper can't get wet so I know that zapper isn't safe in water.Also, I had a strange reaction last night with the Terminator II zapper. I switched to the left foot last night. I woke up in the middle of the night with burning/tingling sensation in my left foot/leg. The zapper isn't supposed to burn when using on the soles of feet. What do you think caused that?
I know that I'm acidic but the soles and palms are supposed to not cause such a reaction. Looks like I'm an exception to this rule. Just like most other things I've tried it doesn't go as planned/expected. Something caused this reaction. It didn't happen on the right foot. Strange!
As for the Lufenuron, I did read about it. What I read wasn't what I wanted to see. It's actually listed as a pesticide in most articles that I pulled up from the net. I really don't wanna take a chance on something like that. I've had enough bad stuff happen when taking certain supplements. Anything close to pesticides I will completely stay away from.
I think I will also wait a while before using DGL. I want to keep my supplementation to a minimum. I'm specifically focused on the BHT treatment along with zapping. I plan on sticking with this for a while to target the viral overload. I think viral and candida are my main underlying issues. Already tried the candida with little results so hopefully attacking the viral part will give better results. The zapping will attack multiple pathogens anyhow so all toxins/bad guys will be attacked intensively. Thanks again Tim and God Bless!"
02/23/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I'm replying here in regards to your comment on another thread about using a magnet for the thyroid. I've never came across this while researching my thyroid issues. Are you talking about just a regular magnet that people use to stick/hang items on a fridge?
Is that what you're implying? Does make sense because energy placed throughout the body like with zappers, etc. have great health benefits. I'm just a little shocked that it may be that simple as using a regular magnet but I want to make sure. If so, I'm going to add this to my zapping & BHT regime for my health issues. Thanks again Timh!"
02/24/2014: Prioris from Fl: "In regards to "Lufenuron ... It's actually listed as a pesticide"Diamataceous Earth is also listed as a pesticide. It's very contextual. Doesn't mean it is bad to consume. Boric Acid is a pesticide but that doesn't make Borax bad to consume. Things that toxic to humans are not necessarily toxic to insects and vice versa.
I have found no information that says that Lufenuron is toxic to humans
From wikipedia
"It has no known toxic effects at any dosage on humans or other animals in the environment that do not depend on chitin, though the orally administered pills can sometimes cause an upset stomach with acid reflux."
From the sellers site
"Lufenuron fights Candida in a similar way as the immune system. The immune system uses the enzyme Chitinase to attack Candida's cell wall. Lufenuron also attacks the Chitin in the fungal cell wall, but much more effectively so than Chitinase. Totally safe for liver and kidneys. Lufenuron is not like anything else on the prescription-free market - it is as effective an antifungal as Diflucan (Fluconazole). ""
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Prioris: I should have been more particular when I said "list" as I meant chemical category. When you say list as "pesticide" that means "marketing" term. Luf is marketed as a pesticide but it is a chemical in the category of "chitin inhibitor"."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, the thin fridge magnet is a good start as it is not too powerful, but one should graduate to stronger magnets if need be. Personally I like to do magnet therapy first then zapp."
02/25/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony: The alligator clip half of the c pipes will be above water so it's no problem.For acidosis I take half spoon of sea salt/baking soda 3x day, but this is not enough for the severity of my condition so I take hot baths w/ baking soda, epsom salts, major & trace mineral (micronized) to finally buffer the entire body. As for the pathogens add some borax or povidone iodine 15-30 min into the bath. Do this bath for an hr or more at least once per week.
The burning symptoms is definitely a sign of toxicity. Your not positive response to Bill's candida protocol also admits toxicity (of some kind). The best remedy for this is Detox Foot Pads (one for each foot before retiring). I have been using these nightly for some time now w/ good results. You can buy DFP on Ebay from the east for under $40 for 100 quantity. You may also be interested in using Detox Foot Spa (I have also been using this extensively w/ good results). Again, the best buys are from the global market on Ebay.
The human body, like all warm blooded organisms, is an environment and host for myriad unwanted and pathogenic substances. Any kind of accumulation of zenobiotics or heavy metals is a production ground for the pathogens to thrive. These parasites attach themselves directly against the foreign substance so to effectively evade the immune system response.
Always waiting to hear some good news from you.
I have had best results w/ BHT fallowed by Echanacia or Chanca Piedra 15 min later 2x day.
If you can find time to watch a Beck video here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk. If the severity of your case doesn't resolve as expected, you will probably also need to use either Lipo-C or Colloidal Silver. (both of which you can make at home at an affordable price).
I have also had very good results Oil Pulling. I do O.P. 2 sessions back-to-back once daily.
I have used two bottles of Lufenuron also w/ good results (and zero bad side effects) but it is a bit pricey so I use seldom. Lufenuron has been very effective for controlling the fungal issues in my Kitties as per their running about and playing w/ the mouse."
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Prioris from Fl for your reply. I understand that some substances that are listed as pesticides aren't really pesticides. Borax certainly says right on the box not for human consumption but we know that it's a strong natural agent.I really don't want to take anything closely related to a prescription drug either. OTC stuff can be just as bad as some prescription drugs. Not many things but certainly some are not really safe to consume.
I'm willing to take a lot of things suggested by members here at EC. There's certain people that I've gained real trust in what they have to say/suggest. Tim here in this thread is certainly one of them along with Bill and Ted of course. There are others as well.
I just don't want to add to much to my supplementation right now. It gets really old taking 15+ supplements daily. I've cut down to around 7-8 right now on my current BHT regime to go along with zapping. I'll consider adding Lufenuron and DGL at a later date. I'm praying & believing that zapping will do a number on all pathogens that I have. Thanks & God Bless!"
02/25/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thank You Tim for yet another timely reply. Let me address each specific area of your comments.I have several small magnets on the fridge. I will start using one of them for 10 minutes just before my Huda Clark type zapping session. Do I just hold the magnet right on my thyroid area?
I will begin the zapping foot baths this week as well. For alkalizing, I'm currently on 3X daily. I use ACV/BS/H2O once daily and BS/H2O twice daily. Sometimes, I do replace the ACV with fresh squeezed lemon. Have been using this alkalizing protocol for about 3 months now. I was on a different alkalizing protocol before that with the candida treatment.
This was 3X daily as well but just BS/H2O for all 3 alkalizing drinks daily. I also add fresh squeezed lemon to every bottled water. I'm getting quite a bit of lemon into my diet now with daily water consumption. I drink at least half my body weight in just water alone.
I also drink 12-16 oz. of fresh made greenie drinks daily. I have an occasional fresh made fruit drink as well w/kiwi, grapes, apples, & bananas. I believe this along with magnesium supplementation has made my bowel movements regular. I go 3 times daily now and before I got real sick in 2012 I went once daily.
I've used both Borax and epsom salts in baths off & on for about 2 years now. I've also experimented with turpentine in baths. I get a burning sensation all over but especially in the genitals with turpentine. I haven't tried using vaseline to help protect that region but my thinking is I have major prostate issues so getting directly into that area can only help and not hurt.
The burning sensation from zapping has gotten a little better. I'm using the Terminator II zapper in the sacrum region for treating HSV. This is suggested by Don Croft from an article I read about HSV and zapping. Supposedly, zapping like this daily for 24 hours(we can't zap 24 hours daily) in about 1 month the virus can be eliminated. I don't know how true this is but Don Croft knows about zapping with his products.
A lot of factors play a role into the amount of time healing takes place. Me having this for 20 years now will probably take longer. Add to that I have candida issues. However, I don't know which pathogen is playing the biggest role in my disease pattern. I just think viral overload is a definite cause because of the HSV. It's the longest running sickness I've had. Of course, the doctors refuse to even think candida/yeast is an issue when I know better.
I'll look into buying some of the Detox Foot Pads you referring to Tim. I buy a lot of stuff on eBay so this will not be a problem. I rarely buy from international sellers though. I like to keep things here in the USA for 2 reasons. Lengthy time in shipment arriving and customs.
It's weird that you mention zenobiotics. Bill has done the same thing in our discussion from the candida protocol. Especially when supplementing with turpentine. I do still take an occasional Lortab for pain. When I say occasional I mean every few days. Sometimes, I get such bad pain that I have take 1/2 tablet just for some temporary relief.
I never take more than 1/2 tablet in a day period. To show how much I try to avoid taking them I have a Lortab prescription that dates back to May of last year. 45 tablets and still have some left. I don't like taking any prescription meds! 1/2 tablet gives me about 1-2 hours of mild pain relief but that's about it.
They're not the answer for pain! And, prescription meds aren't the answer for any disease or illness. Sometimes, we have to resort to using them though. Medicine has its place though. They can save lives for sure in emergency situations just as they have for you!
As for the BHT treatment, I just started the full protocol today. Using 350 mg BHT once daily for a few days to start. Will possibly increase to 700 mg daily in a few days. My capsules are 350 mg each. Might break open a capsule and use only half to make it around a total of 500-550 mg daily. Don't want to go too high in dosage. 500 mg is the suggested daily dose for viral issues.
I'm also taking Lipo C(500 mg twice daily) and Monolaurin(550 mg twice daily) to go along with a B Complex daily. Still taking a multi as well plus continue to take niacin, magnesium, & zinc in higher doses. I also take 2,500IU of Vit D3 as well daily. This is cut down from 5,000IU that I was taking in the past. I get very little sunshine so I need extra Vit D3 daily. That's about it in the supplementation category. Cut down quite a bit from what I was taking. Couldn't even keep up with things before.
I've also taken CS in the past. I just think I didn't take it long enough and not at high enough doses for my health issues. I used it for about 2 months but varied the dosage weekly. I should have taken a higher dose for that period of time. I then stopped using it which was probably a big mistake. CS is a potent killer of multiple pathogens as well.
Oil pulling I did for a few months with minimal results. I do know that I got pretty significant detox/die-off when I started OP. Didn't see any results in the mouth area for gingivitis. I will say that there was definitely toxins in the oil after spitting it out. White as snow and ugly looking stuff. I tried sesame, sunflower, & olive oil for pulling. I didn't get much results with any of them. Probably did this daily for around 4 months.
As for the Lufenuron, I've been reading up a lot about this product. Some very good testimonies about using this for candida. It's interesting how this stuff works. It releases slowly into the system for killing candida systemically. Interesting in how it's taken. 3 days of dosage and then a break.
Something you don't have to worry about taking daily over a long period of time. I would have no problem using it with fatty food. I eat healthy fats with basically every meal. So, getting the full benefit won't be a problem for me.
Now, it's probably going to take multiple monthly treatments for me with my serious candida issues. That's OK though if that's what it takes. I read one particular story about Lufenuron in which a guy had to use multiple treatments to get rid of his candida issues. I think it was 5-6 months. But, he felt better each month of treatment.
He bought his from an international seller but I've found a seller in the USA that I have in mind. People have also said you can get it from eBay. I haven't checked into that yet. Sorry for the long reply. Thanks Tim and God Bess you for helping me and others here at EC! I'll keep you updated of course!"
02/26/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Yes, Tony hold the magnet directly over the thyroid on each side of neck, and while your at it, treat the thymus gland which resides between the heart & neck area. I do this as well as occasional zapp to stimulate & strengthen the immunity. Raw Thymus Glandular may be necessary in the severity of your case. If that candida gets into any of the glands you can expect some havoc. My thyroid bottomed out several times, but I put the magnet, zapper, and Iodine onto it and it is now recovered.Surely you will soon make some substantial improvements as to your treatment efforts. You are very welcome for my input and I hope to share some joy in your recovery. Thanks for your detailed responses as maybe all the particulars will also help others."
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@Timh:I've been doing some reading/watching on the magnet therapy you had suggested. Could you please enlighten me on this? All of the reading and watching of video from the net says that moving magnetic therapy is the only type of magnet therapy that works.
I watched a video from Dr. Oz and he specifically stated that the magnets you see on fridges are not the type of magnets that work. He said only the moving/motion magnet therapy will work. I've also not located any scientific research that backs anything about these type magnets.
Do you care to show me how this is supposed to work or evidence(research) that it does work? I know energy placed through the body like with zappers work but I'm a little hesitant in saying this about the standard fridge magnet. Thanks again Tim!"
02/26/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim!Does it matter how close I get the magnet to the gland/area I'm treating? I've started out with a small magnet in size(1/2" wide X 3/4" tall). I do have a few larger ones on the fridge but wanted to wait and see what you suggested as far as size. I know with the Terminator II zapper it works up to 18" away from the site of treatment.
I'm going to be ordering a raw multiple glandular supplement soon for all of my glands. I know they're all out of whack not just my thyroid gland. I'm getting the glandulars made out of New Zealand from grass fed cows that are freeze dried. It's a raw glandular supplement. I've not tried using glandulars before so hopefully this will help in my regeneration process even more.
I CAN NOT handle iodine in anything above 12.5 mg daily doses. I get such a bad reaction when on higher doses that I can't hardly function. I've been on and off iodine for the past 2+ years. I always feel much worse when taking this stuff.
Maybe with the detox I'm doing now with zapping, BHT, etc. I can possibly go back on it at a later time. Like Bill has suggested a many times when you have thyroid issues it's normally pertained to lacking in iodine as the main problem. I just can't handle it well at all though.
BTW, I have some Glutamine on the way. I'm also doing an herbal parasite 2 week cleanse with a formula I found on eBay. Has the standard parasite killing herbs in wormwood, cloves, & black walnut.
I want to ask you a couple more questions.
Is it OK to perform more than one Huda Clark zapping session daily? To my surprise, I've not had any significant detox/die-off symptoms yet after 4 days of zapping with both zappers.
I want to zap more from the thyroid area but just can't do that yet because of the burning sensation. Within a minute of placing the Terminator II around my neck/thyroid area I get significant burning. That's supposedly telling me acidity. However, I've checked my urine PH the last couple of days and it's been 7.6-7.7 which is good.
My urine PH hasn't been this high since becoming sick. It's not been above 6.9 for more than one day that I can remember. It's been as low as 6.2 at one time. I want to go slightly higher in PH in order for more rapid healing to take place. I can get it back down to normal range once I get more stable. Anyhow, enough rambling for now. Thanks again for your time Tim and God Bless!"
02/27/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Tony, if I ever get well enough I am going to do some extensive research in magnet therapy and maybe practice it part-time; but for now I can only say that I have experienced no bad side effects and only good effects from magnets on all body parts, including the skull/brain and eyes. Also, the general guideline seems to be: the more powerful the magnet the better. My strongest magnet, placed directly over the liver for at least 15 min major reduces any inflammation as well as purifies the blood of parasites and pathogens. So, the little fridge mag will only be a good start until you find an old, discarded speaker w/ a good magnet.I will yea the multiglandular as I use the Solaray brand 2x week on average w/ noticeable results.
As for the zapping, I did not experience herx until I did the foot bath zap. To reduce the burning as well as increase the effectiveness, try placing a thin, wet cloth over the skin of the area to be zapped.
The glutamine has big potential in your case, as it seems to me. Take it directly w/ the herbal para to maximize the effect. Glutamine also alkalizes the blood and boost growth hormone.
Backing up a bit, you may want to reconsider the hair analysis as you can purchase this online for about $100 w/ lab report included. Anyway, it would be advantageous to take a few caps of Coriander before retiring w/ the removal aid of the detox foot pads.
Everything you're doing looks to be in good line except the area of Antioxidant Status as it seems very poor in case. This is a broad subject but you will absolutely need to cover the basics. Vit-A, E, Selenium, Melatonin, Grapeseed Extract, and Silymarin for the liver. "
02/27/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks again Tim.Let me begin this reply with the magnet therapy. You say to graduate to a stronger magnet. You say to find an old speaker magnet. Are there any other options for bigger/stronger magnets? I don't have any access to old speakers for a bigger magnet source. What's the biggest magnet you can get in stores that would work?
Now, onto the zapper chat again. I was told not to place a cloth/paper towel against my skin when using the Terminator II zapper. It's designed to only have direct contact to the skin. Now, I do use paper towels sprayed with a sea salt water solution when zapping with the Huda Clark zapper.
The seller messaged me and said not to do this with the Terminator II zapper. I understand the towels with sea salt water is only used for better conductivity with the Huda Clark zappers. It's not the same purpose with the Terminator but couldn't hurt I guess to use them to keep from burning.
I'm starting to burn a little in my sacrum region with the Terminator II but wasn't experiencing this at first. I attribute this to the detox and bringing the toxins/pathogens to the skin surface even though my urine PH is slightly above normal.
I will take your advice and use glutamine in combo with the herbal parasite cleanse.
Is hair analysis really necessary at this point? I mean I'm attacking all pathogens and also supplementing all the standard vitamins and minerals. I failed to mention a few other things I'm taking in my last reply.
I'm taking extra selenium(100mcg) separate from my multi. I take 5-HTP for sleep/stress/anxiety at 100mg at bedtime & 100mg once during the day. I'm taking a mushroom formula with all trace minerals included. I do have some grapeseed extract but haven't used it yet. I was taking milk thistle but stopped it because it's suggested to not take milk thistle when using the BHT protocol.
Keep in mind, that BHT will support the liver. That's one of its great benefits especially for hepatitis. Are you saying I need extra liver support other than taking BHT? I'm not taking extra Vit A or E. It's also suggested to not take extra Vit E supplements with BHT.
I've got something interesting to tell you Tim. I woke up this morning to a pretty nice-sized blister on the inside of my lower lip. This popped up overnight. There wasn't a blister there before going to bed. I take this as a strong detox reaction. I don't have HSV1 where people get them in the mouth area. I have HSV2 of the genitals.
This is a sign that the virus is trying to escape/flee the body. I've never had a blister this size inside my mouth. Small ones before but not the herpes type blisters. This thing looks pretty nasty. About 3/8" round and black in color. I've used tea tree oil on it and it's getting smaller already! I take this as another good sign of detox! The BHT looks to be doing it's thing!
Thanks again Tim for your help! God Bless you bud!"
02/28/2014: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Sorry I forgot you were taking the BHT and recommended supplements that are contraindicated. Maybe this viral problem will take a beating from the BHT.As for the magnets, the best way to get hold of a good used music speaker magnet is your local Goodwill or any second hand store. Also might find a good one from an old, broken car or auto salvage yard.
As for heavy metals, you would need to trace your personal history of any high risk to metals or any other harmful chem.
If you have pets, especially in the house, it's highly likely you have some type parasite. Hulda Clark recommends deworming the entire household plus the pets prior to removing them from your life. I certainly don't agree w/ the extreme measure of removal of pets. The best option is to keep them dewormed. I had a wonderful Kitty family a few yrs back that are dear to my heart, but I did get Ascaris infestation in the order of life-threatening.
As for the zapping, simply try and work what's best for yourself. Curezone.com has tons of post about zapping if you can allocate some time there.
Hoping to hear more good news from you Tony."
02/28/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello again Tim.Yes, I'm on the BHT treatment protocol and can't take herbs in high doses. Can't take milk thistle at all right now!
I'll make a trip to Goodwill to see if I can find some speakers. If that doesn't work, I'll go to one of the local salvage yards.
I used to work in a textile plant for a few years. I wasn't really exposed to any dangerous chemicals while there. However, all the fabric I certainly was around it. I don't know how dangerous those chemicals would have been though. That's the only place I could think of for heavy metal toxicity.
There's absolutely NO WAY that we would get rid of our pets. We have 3 dogs and 1 cat. Love them all dearly! Wouldn't take a zillion dollars for any of them & I honestly mean that Tim! God gave us these creatures here on this earth for a reason just like he does everything else. They love us unconditionally just like Jesus does!
I do let them lick me though. Have for years! We did have to de-worm our cat last year. She got really sick! The licking is probably a source of parasites withing my body.
All of our pets have been sick at one point or another. So, I'm sure that we all have some sort of parasite problem. Each and every one of us allow them to lick us. I think I'm gonna put a stop to that now though. Loving them certainly but not licking anymore.
I've used curezone in the past. When I first had prostate problems this is one of the first places I found on the net. I even tried the Budwig protocol for a short while and that's where I got that protocol from. Thanks again Tim and take care!"
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Thanks for creating a page for this. Not too many people on here seem to mention zappers. Tim is an exception for sure and thanks to him for bringing it to my attention. God Bless EC and to all that seek/give helpful advice on here."
RepliesEC: Hi Tony, we need to move your posts to a new thread on the Zapper page as they don't belong in the Basal Cell thread. As soon we get a chance to do this, you will see your 2 posts from the weekend.
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@EC: Thanks for letting me know! God Bless!"
02/24/2014: Earth Clinic : "Hi Tony,A new Hulda Clark Zapper page has just been created for this thread: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/zapper.html"
02/24/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "@EC:Thanks for creating a page for this. Not too many people on here seem to mention zappers. Tim is an exception for sure and thanks to him for bringing it to my attention. God Bless EC and to all that seek/give helpful advice on here."
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Anyway, after about a week or two of these "episodes", my neck began to ache (all over, front and back) and my throat started to burn. It was awful. Gradually, I began feeling strange sensations in my tongue, which soon changed to a burning feeling- around the sides,