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Help with identifikation of parasites & procedure / DE with colloidal silver and bitter herbs

Hi all,

so this is an embarrasingctopic, but reading this case you know what to expect when you arw expecting nothing (like me) doing a parasite cleansing. So DE in a combo works for me, thanxxs for this great advice.

I started about 1,5 week ago wanting to clean the colon of old slimelayers, diverticules etc.. So I took DE with psyllium seeds (hudks are better) soaking in hot water before breakfast (30-60 min.). 3 days, no change/reaction.

I have changed to a full grain plantbased nutrition 1 year ago (no industrial sugar, milkproducts, meat etc.), 2 weeks diarrhoe, since then bowlmovements with good, generally normal results, very seldom little bloating.

So I decided to do a preventive (! ) parasitic cleanse. Had done Hulda Clark several years ago, no reaction. So I started taking DE 1-3 times 30 min. before meals with molasses in warm water, sometimes plus ACV.

A few days later on a public toilet I was shocked: little yellowish diaerroeh (I never had before) moving with 1 longer worm (ca. half a finger), a small one (maybe a piece, I suppose the grey big bubble inside it was DE) and a foreform of an adult fluke (like a grey ray fish, 2 cm with the snail). 1 day diarroe, partly hunger loss, switching back to normal.

Does anyone has a clue which parasites these could be? The flukes head was not round (thats well a signaturesign for intestinal flukes), but this was kind of sqare-headed one. Suppose it is worse, so liver fluke?

Had a few days heavy bloating and then well Herxheimer reaction 1-2 days before the yellow bowlresult, one awful night with fever, shivering, cramping (in the myomatic uterus ->maybe result of incapsulated parasites?), all the week spots (teeth, osteomyelitis) hurt, brainpain, not much sleep.

Gulping lots of bidestilled cold water during night helped, next day washing the body with baking soda water, drinking vegetable powder in warm water for elektrolytes, as usual curcuma (6g/day with little fat & piperin), magnesium (500-1000 mg/day), fresh nettles (tea, meals), Vitamin C (2-4 g), B-Vitamins, zinc (25-50 mg). Not well, but ok. again.

I went on with the DE intake which I had combined with a few times chewing pumpkin seeds, then raw garlic, currently a few times papaya seeds.

I take bitter herbs like milkthistle which accelerate the gallbladder before (! ) DE. Highly recommended, because this keeps flukes from clogging, preventing gallbladderobstruction.

As the parasites are well in the whole system I have added selfmade colloidal silver to clean the blood and support the immune system (25 ppm, 3x150 ml a day). Planning the turpentine-remedies for flukes/endometriosis on earthclinic.

Belly is bloated, gushing sounds (pankreasproblem?) during day before/after meals, at night I feel them heavily moving in my intestines (uargh), so I tell me and them that I will kill them all. Also nose and eyes drabbed, but this I will take care later, when feeling better.

I have to take ironbisglycinat (100 mg/day) due to heavy menstrual blood loss and anaemia. Better not at night, but after meal (& DE before meal)? Better organic from curry leafes than chemically made?

Should I add or change something to the killing procedure?

Best I go on for at least 6 weeks to three months?

Recommendations how to cope emotionally?

Thanxxs a lot for your tips

Elisabeth

Hi Elisabeth,

You seem to have multiple issues which you relate to old dental issues.

For some people, melatonin has helped with sleep and anxiety issues as discussed here :

https://www.baptisthealth.com/blog/behavioral-health/can-melatonin-help-with-anxiety#:~:text=Studies have shown that taking, improve anxiety symptoms more directly.

Here is a relevant quote from the article :

' Studies have shown that taking a melatonin supplement can improve sleep. That benefit may reduce anxiety symptoms by helping you get more rest. However, experts speculate that the hormone may also improve anxiety symptoms more directly. '

Melatonin lotion or melatonin gel applied topically to the external jaw area can relieve pain, reduce inflammatory levels, reduce elevated oxidative stress levels and potentially improve bone integrity because topical application achieves higher local tissue levels than when taken orally. Here is a link discussing melatonin and bone :

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0300908422002127

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' Furthermore, melatonin in combination with other components such as strontium, vitamin D3, and vitamin K2 has a synergistic effect on bone microstructure and improves bone mineral density (BMD). In this review article, we aim to summarize the regulatory mechanisms of melatonin in osteoblastic differentiation of MSCs and underling involved signaling pathways as well as the clinical potential of using melatonin in bone degenerative disorders. '

I explain how to make melatonin lotion and gel at these two links with the gel being the more likely choice for the facial area :

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/melatonin-lotion.html

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/melatonin-gel.html

As far as anxiety rushes only in the morning, this is a time when melatonin levels can be low after peaking around 1:00 am and declining from that point with further decline from exposure to the light of day.

Since you mentioned possibly using colloidal silver (CS), I will mention how I use it for gum infections besides just taking it orally. I use the little cotton face cleaning cloths which are approximately 2" x 2.5". I fold them so they are approximately 3/8" x 2", saturate with CS and place between the gum and the teeth and leave in place for at least an hour before replacing with a new cotton pad.

Since your infection sounds severe, you will have to get your dentist's and or doctor's approval and supervision before using any of the above.

Art

Hi all, hi Art,

after 22 years I realized that I am in a potentially lifethreatening condition, left teeth thus upper jaw bone, eyehole and brain chronically infected and inflammated.

Has anyone here cured such a long lasting inflammation and/or in this area? I would like to know if it is possible at all or if an operation (extraction of teeth and bonecontent is inevitable). Please let me know how you treated it or what you suggest? Does anyone know a specialised doctor, clinic?

Antibiotikatreatment is out of the question for me, it only grows bacteriaresistent and destroys the colon/immunsystem, so no way. And the chance that scolar doctors are unable to understand the problem and submitt me to a wrong treatment is high.

@ Art: thanxxs to your melatonin-advice I realized through this that I am in risk of multiple organ break down due to chronic sepsis. Melatonin could reduce this best (max. 75%). Is it sensible to take the delution outward on the area or maybe orally in the morning (orally taken at night I get sleeping problems with Seroquel prolong/Quetiapin retard lying awake)

I had for example regular death anxiety rushes, but only waking up and only in the morning. I wondered about why, because it seemed a strange symptom. If you suffer from it you could also do the following test: Release the bladder content as soon as possible in the morning and drink lots of water and (in my case) the anxiety is miraculously gone. So it is the sepsis/toxins accumulated over night which trigger bodys death alarm sense. So bladder, kidney, spleen are under pressure.

Thanxxs to you and no-thanxxs to all doctors telling me 22 years the signs of a lifethreatening sepsis/braininflammation (e.g. desorientation, confusion, high fever, break downs etc.) are barely "psychical"!

I wonder how I could survive this so long anyhow (maybe 3 liters of water/day, high dosages of Vitamin C 2-4 grams, Lamberts high dosed B-complex, Zink 25-50 mg, Curcuma 6 g/day with piperin and little fat, lying down a lot, plant based nutrition without industrial sugar, fatty acids, only green iron from plants, calming meditation, no alcohol, no drugs maybe...)?

Elisabeth

I just began taking the boron solution of 1 quart water mixed with 1/8 teaspoon borax. I am a 110 pound female. After only drinking one cup of the solution I felt very odd as though I had been poisoned (light headed, heart racing, feeling of slipping out of reality) however these feelings wore off after a few hours. I really wish to continue drinking the solution to heal. I am very concerned it is going to make my hair fall out at such a high dosage. Has anyone experienced this? I attempted to search for comments regarding this issue however couldn't find any. Thank you kindly

My comment is just a warning to proceed with caution.
Your remedy is valid for it is based on a personal experience.

Hi Elisabeth,

I take Borax, the laundry booster, to keep my psoriatic arthritis (PA) in remission for the past 17 years or so using Ted's dosing regimen. Borax is said to contain approximately 11.4% boron. I take 1/4 teaspoon of Borax which on my digital milligram scale is about 980 milligrams. So .115 x 980 = 112.7 mg of boron.

Ted said the women's dose of Borax should be half of the man's dose or 1/8th teaspoon. So 112 / 2 = 56 mg of boron for women.

Based on the above, you can see that even higher dosing is possible than the range you mentioned in your post.

I can't tell you a specific dose for you to take, I can just say what I take to good effect and what Ted recommended for women via Borax for arthritis.

Art

Hi Art, Hi all earthclinic-fans,

Boron is interesting, I did not know about the antibacterial effect of Boron.

I take boron in a natural form (dried plums, nuts) since a short time. Had found a study on about 100 g dried plums/day (8-10 pieces) with anti-osteoporosis effect in women. This is about 2,7 mg, besides I eat plantbased since april last year and boron usually finds in plantbased stuff (certain nuts, fruits etc.)

Checked on boron-thread on beloved earthclinic (supplements vary from 3-30 mg or more/day, well often sideeffects)...

Unsure on the fitting dosage in my case? Could be also that dried plums do go low on boron (not so bad in trees than in agriculture I suppose)? Better supplement?

Suggestions, own experiences to boron and additional recommendations are very welcome.

Thanxxs, feeling less alone fighting this!

Jack, I recommended Equalactin based on my own use, and my father's, and my neighbors, for persistent diarrhea linked to IBS. It has nothing to do with AI, I merely used AI to show how Equalactin is officially described. The beauty of Earth Clinic is that our recommendations come from our own experience.

I did not say it will cure IBS. I said it will stop an ordinary but nasty bout very quickly and reliably. If you have your experience with another way, please share it. Why try to refute the experience of others?

Hi Elisabeth,

Another consideration is Boron. Why? Boron is found in the bones, teeth and nails and boron is an antimicrobial agent with similar effectiveness as typical antimicrobial drugs as discussed here :

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/bioengineering-and-biotechnology/articles/10.3389/fbioe.2024.1475584/full

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' Furthermore, due to the overuse of antibiotics, microbial resistance is a rising issue in global public health (Lv et al., 2022; Scales and Huffnagle, 2013). These agents can't sterilize the wound, and previous studies showed that antibiotic therapy has no positive effect on the healing process of chronic wounds (Scales and Huffnagle, 2013). In this regard, finding new agents and therapeutic manners could prevent microbial colonization and minimize the development of antimicrobial resistance (Lv et al., 2022). The antimicrobial activity is one of the most known properties of boron. Boron has comparable potency with traditional antimicrobial drugs (Iyigundogdu and Saribas, 2022; Fink and Uchman, 2021; Khonina et al., 2020; Kıvanç et al., 2018). No microbial resistance has been reported against boron because the enzymatic system of living organisms is not able to metabolize boron components (Fink and Uchman, 2021). '

Boron also helps fend off osteopenia and osteoporosis as discussed here :

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/fsn3.4218

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' A significant link was found between boron intake and bone mineral density highlighting the importance of nutritional and lifestyle factors affecting bone health. Further research on the specific impact of boron is warranted to better inform dietary interventions for osteoporosis prevention and management. '

Art

P.S I am also wondering about how to eliminate the multiple bacteria out of the bones?

Which remedy reaches into the bone - zapping maybe?

Cheers,

Elisabeth

Hi Art,

thanxxs for the tip and quick response.

Currently I take Seroquel prolong/Quetiapin retard 100 mg as only medicamentation due to a wrong diagnose. It doesn't help, but has made me dependent (sleep, pain, stressreduction). It took me years to get back off it from max. 400 mg/day, so I dare only slowly to go downward with it.

I experienced sleepingproblems, lying awake, taking Melatonin and Quetiapin retard together in the evening a few years ago. Checked on it, so they do well counterreact with each other.

But when I get finally rid of the quetiapin retard I will opt for the melatonin again.

Until then, are there any other options?

Thanxxs a lot!

Elisabeth

OCD goes without saying. Yet, sudden, no history, behavioural changes always indicate medical problems, allergies, toxic conditions, nutritional imbalances, poor diets, lack of exercise, or other treatable physical conditions. As usual everyone immediately starts looking for that magic pill or a mental health therapist.

I suggest alternativementalhealh site. https://www.alternativementalhealth.com

Seeing a Homeopath is where I'd start.

His condition is chronic. I don't trust AI, I trust the wisdom of ages and common sense. chronic diarrhoea should not be treated and can not be cured by pharmaceuticals. There are too many causes for chronic diarrhoea. He is yet to provide details.

P.S. I DREAD THE TIME when we start relying on AI which at this point is just information collection. It can't distinguish nonsense, fake and absurd from the science books what were tested by ages. Everything that was scanned gets lumped into a summary.

Jack, this is what AI says: "Equalactin is used to treat both constipation and diarrhea. It works by absorbing excess water in the bowel, which helps to form bulk and substance in the stool, leading to normal bowel movements. When you feel the onset of diarrhea symptoms, taking Equalactin can provide relief and prevent the episode from becoming severe."

I have used it for many years for diarrhea, including severe bouts after chemo, and have passed it on to others with excellent results. It works almost immediately. I have never seen any side effects.

Sounds like your son has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. EC has an excellent section on it, I would try to natural treatment over the Rx. Remember this disorder can be caused by a traumatic event or it can just start for no reason at all. Good luck to you, mental health issues are the toughest to treat.

Hi Elisabeth,

The following links may be of interest to you :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37753741/

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' Through a large number of clinical data analyses combined with molecular experiments, this study clarified that occult osteogenic disorders in CIOM patients were related to ferroptosis of osteoblasts. We revealed that melatonin might be a potential therapeutic drug for CIOM patients and provided a new insight for the treatment of OM. '

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30278831/

Here is a relevant quote from the link :

' Co-supplementation of MLT along with Hg showed marked protection of these genotoxic end points in treated cultures. In conclusion, our findings suggest that MLT protects against Hg-induced augmentation in genotoxic indices because of its antioxidant property. '

Art

Osteomyelitis upper jaw bone, eye, brain

Hi around the globe,

I am 46 years now and with 24 I had a dentist appointment. He cleansed out 2 amalgan fillings of the back teeth in my mouth. The dentist having for himself an oxygen mask and denying on my request that I also needed one.

So I have amalgan intake in the brain and also in the body (lilac swollen tongue etc.). When I got the fillings I was 10 years old, I suppose I have amalgan allergy because I nearly starved to death vomiting afterwards for 2 years (depurification of the intoxikation, my body is very intelligent not accepting toxigen mixed with food, compared to doctors not finding the reason).

What is more the dentist harmed the pulpa which lead to a severe infection of the tooth, the upper jaw bone and I suppose eyehole (bones somehow moved in the direction of my nose according to optical messures) and brain inflammation. Dentist lied 4 years (24-29 years) to me that an aching tooth would be normal.

With 29 I had a konventional pulpaoperation drilling the death teeth and stabilizing it. This led how I learned later on to spreading amalgan-bone particles pushing them into the jawbone and the cave above. The jawbone was degenerated from not-chewing and a mass of bacteria was coming out and running down my troath (like angina), I felt better trough this. I got only one package of antibiotics (Amocixyclin) by the new dentist, which I later learned is an absolutely insufficient amount to heal such an infection, and unfortunately another antibiotika which led to an crossallergic reaction (red pepples all over the body, releasing of bacteria stopped).

Not long after this I had my first break down in my life, realizing something was wrong, loosing orientation according time, partly sleeplessness, agitation, partly halluzinations etc., but being quickly fully orientated again. Stress accelerates these breakdownphases, which goes hand in hand with reducing the immunsystem and boosting inflammation, I suppose. Though I did not fullfill the ICD symptoms and was atypical I got wrongly diagnozed and seduced over more than a decade with an SSRI antagonist which reduces pain and thus masked the real problem which was left untreatened.

In 2020 after learning what people already knew in mediaval times that death teeth (also nowadays always infected with bacteria) need to be eradicated I followed this procedure.

Now 2025 I am at the point understanding that my jawbone is still infected (according to wrong informations of dentists I had believed it healed), so are 3 teeth in the neighborhood. According to a specialised dentist, who tested this with kineosology, the tree teeth should be also taken out, at least the yaw bone must be opened up and cleansed completely out, too. Thus the main infection center would be cleaned, but I am very adraid of the operation, because dentists mistakes nearly killed me several times in my life. And it is done ambulant.

According to the described symptoms I suppose the infection has long spread to eye hole (eye sight is getting worse), brain (skin hurt so much I could not brush hair etc.) and in the blood (I suffer from heavy menstrual blood loss = blood cleansing?) and possible organs (brown skin pepples which can be pealed off etc.).

So what I do is taking curcuma in high dosages (6 gram/day) with piperin and fat for maximum effect against inflammation and this feels little better. I will add colloidal silver which I can produce myself. I had severe chronic vitamin D and sunlight expression under 16 yeard, so I add 40.000 I.E. per week to be on 75 nmol/l, vitamin K 200 my/day, magnesium (500 mg or more), Calcium from vegan sources (nettles, drinking water, soj etc., planned dolomit stone intake), bor (plums), silizium (diatomeenearth)

I will ask an German ayurvedic practicioner near Munich for help, generally they can boost immunsystem, reduce inflammation and I found studies about healing osteomyelitis with ayurvedic herbal remedies. But 22 years of chronic inflammation makes it well complicated.

So my request is, do you know home remedies I can try to stabilize or better the situation? Do you know an ayurvedic practitioner, clinic or else who is specialized on this? I can still travel to India or elsewhere...

To tell the truth I feel half death (so 50 % still alive), doctors do not understand the situation and I am so unbelievable angry on this healthsystem ruining my life. So I hope for your help.

Elisabeth from Germany

He is a perfect candidate for homeopathic treatments. Get an appointment with a practitioner she or he will figure this out. Homeopathy is excellent for mental disorders. Don't waste your time on anything else.

What led to chronic diarrhoea? Antibiotics? New medications? A surgery? Or it just started out of nowhere?
Acute vs. chronic condition requires different approach. It is not always an infection, it could be bile duct problems. If your stool was tested for an infection, parasites, etc. taking “remedies” designed for infections are useless and could be harmful.

Hi

My son, in his fifties, is intelligent, caring, and into keeping fit, but has had mental worries for some time, and recently the problems have worsened.

A while ago he belonged to a shooting club, and lead was discovered in his body from the equipment used, and since then this has caused him to obsessionally worry about so many other issues. For instance, asbestos in walls, lead in paint, toxic coating on cooking utensils, plastics in tea bags. He also avoids touching handles on doors, rails, etc when in public places, because of being contaminated by germs.

And he does find some social situations difficult to handle, for instance being in an overcrowded restaurant and feeling trapped and the need to escape.

These fears are controlling his life. He has tried several solutions, such as talking therapy, hypnotism, counselling, supplements, prescription drugs, and none of these have been successful. I'd be interested to learn if any contributors to Earth Clinic have any solutions to these problems.

Many thanks.