Last Modified on Feb 19, 2014
What Is Arthritis?
A fairly common disorder that often worsens with age, arthritis is defined as the inflammation of one or more of the joints. The two most common types of arthritis are rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis. Arthritis can be a painful and even debilitating disorder depending on the severity. As such, understanding the disorder and working to improve treatment is crucial.
The intensity of symptoms generally varies with the severity and type of arthritis. Nonetheless, common symptoms include joint pain, stiffness, swelling, redness and decreased range of motion. While additional areas of the body may be involved, symptoms of arthritis are typically concentrated at the joints.
In general, arthritis is caused by joint damage. However, the two main types of arthritis – rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis – damage the joints in different ways.
Osteoarthritis is the most common form of arthritis and results from the normal wear-and-tear on the joints, more specifically the cartilage of the joints. This wear-and-tear is often caused by regular use; however, it can be exacerbated by an injury or infection.
Rheumatoid arthritis, however, is caused by the body’s immune system. Considered an autoimmune disease, rheumatoid arthritis results as the body “turns on itself” and begins breaking down the membrane that encloses a joint. This process can eventually destroy both the cartilage and bone within the joint as well.
Natural Arthritis Treatment
While identifying the exact type and cause of arthritis is helpful for treating the condition, several arthritis treatments reduce inflammation associated with the disorder and offer relief. An apple cider vinegar tonic comprised of apple cider vinegar, water and honey is one of the most effective treatment options. Additionally, grapefruit juice, honey and garlic are known anti-inflammatory agents that can also treat arthritis. Apple pectin, avocado and blackstrap molasses support the healthy development and maintenance of cartilage and offer relief and treatment.
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Table of Contents
- QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
- POPULAR REMEDIES
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda
- Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda, Chicken Cartilage
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Grapefruit Juice
- Apple Cider Vinegar, Honey, Garlic
- Apple Pectin
- Baking Soda
- Blackstrap Molasses
- Calcium and Magnesium
- Chicken Cartilage
- Cinnamon and Honey
- Clove Oil, Peppermint Oil
- Coconut Oil
- Cod Liver Oil
- Devils Claw
- Dietary Advice
- Dietary Changes
- Dried Dates
- Emu Oil
- Epsom Salts
- Fire Ant Bites
- Gelatin, Fish Oil
- General Feedback
- Ginger and Turmeric
- Glucosamine and Chondroitin
- Glyconutrients, Omega 3
- Golden Grapes Soaked in Gin
- Homeopathic Hypericum
- Hydrogen Peroxide
- Hydrogen Peroxide and Distilled Water Spray
- Juicing, Vegetarian
- Linseed Oil, Tyrosine, Echinacea
- Low Dose Naltrexone
- Multiple Remedies
- Oil Pulling
- Over the Counter
- Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5)
- Poke Berries
- Raisins Soaked in Gin
- Raw Potato Juice
- Remedies Needed
- Sea Salt
- Silver Bio Tec
- Spirits of Turpentine
- Staph Connection
- Ted's Cat Purring Remedy
- Ted's Remedies
- Turmeric, Ginger Root
- Wild Oregano Oil
- Yellow Dock Tea
Apple Cider Vinegar Treatment for Arthritis
Home Remedy Ingredients
- Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 teaspoons up to 1/4 cup
- Filtered Water - 32 Oz
- Honey (optional)
Mix as much as a quarter-cup of unpasteurized apple cider vinegar into 32oz of water (start with a tablespoon of ACV, then increase slowly day by day). Optionally, add a natural sweetener. Try sipping this ACV tonic throughout the day for a constant alkalizing effect.
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 09/20/2013: Ubound from Lebanon: "I suffer from water on the knee since I was 18 years old (now 34). My knees swell from time to time for a few days then I am back to normal again for a week or so. It subsided for many months in a row but has been back in recent years. The condition wasn't severe, just slightly uncomfortable. I started taking ACV with water for another issue but realized that my knees didn't swell anymore. I was completely fine as long as I drank ACV. However once I stop ACV the attacks come back and are much more severe to the point that I can't leave the house for 2-3 days. This never happened before. I never had to change my plans or rearrange my schedule because of this condition before. I am puzzled. I know if I take ACV I will be fine, but once I stop it's very scary. I don't know if I should continue. Does anyone here experience worsening of symptoms when they stop drinking vinegar? Thanks!"
[YEA] 09/14/2013: Francesca1971 from Tasmania, Australia: "I began getting arthritis in my fingers and feet about six months ago. I now take two teaspoons of ACV morning and night diluted in a glass of water. Gone, within a couple of days. If I slack off a day or two my limbs begin to seize up again. Brilliant."
[SIDE EFFECTS] 05/29/2013: Michael from Va Beach, Va: "I've been taking Apple Cider Vinegar mixture with water and honey for a week now twice a day for arthritis in my hand and it seems the discomfort has intensified. Is that possible or have I not wait long enough for the ACV to actually work? Thanks for any comments."Replies
05/29/2013: Iowama from Pella, Ia replies: "Hi. I also drank a vinegar tea when osteoarthritis nodules first started to show on the joints of some of my finger tips. The nodules shrank and haven't returned to the same size. I switched to drinking distilled water with a little lemon juice and no sweetener throughout the day and upped my intake of minerals because I found it to be a more pleasant substitute. I still was puzzled as to why I would wake up some mornings with red and achy finger joints unrelated to work.
On the advice of a Doctor of Functional Medicine, I started an elimination diet and found that when I ate sugar or gluten, the inflammation would kick in again. This is not to say I'm cured. Sometimes I get carried away in the garden and suffer the consequences. I've read that arthritis can be a bit of a blessing in that even though it is caused by overuse, it can reveal an autoimmune problem. I do wish you success in finding out the source of your inflamation."
08/13/2013: Raphael from Swampscott, Ma, Usa replies: "Arthritis Pain: I have taken so far 4 times (1 a day) on the mixture of (a) Greek Yogurt (b) 1 tsp organic flaxseed oil. I bought the 4 in a pack greek yugurt and it heals my knee and left shoulder pain about 90%. I will go through one more cycle to see if it can go 100% healing. My left shoulder used to give me problem when getting dress and my right knee dull pain keeps bothering me. Now I can open my left shoulder and not feel the pain I expect it will happen, and the right knee is pain-free and still a little tight when kneel down."
07/17/2012: Jyoti from Hyderabad, A.p.: "Hi, this is for my mother-in-law 60 suffering frm a bad arthritis pain from last many yrs now. After reading so many mails all of diff sugesstions I am highly confused how much Apple Cider Vinegar with how much honey and when in a day and till when? Everybody here has mentioned their own experiences but I am not able to sort out for her, pls suggest. She stays in rajasthan and don't know anything about Apple Cider Vinegar and from where to get this from? I am desperately waiting for ur reply. Pls guide. thanx joe."Replies
07/17/2012: Ed2010 from Oakville, Canada replies: "Use Ted's ACV and Baking Soda formula. Body has to become alkaline to cure arthritis.
Just google to find where to buy apple cider vinegar. Remember, not buy the regular vinegar that is availabe in all the stores. Buy apple cider vinegar that is not pasteurized and with mother.
Why don't you call justdial. com and find where to purchase apple cider vinegar. thanks"
07/19/2012: Baldev from Mumbai, Maharashtra, India replies: "Hi Jyoti, Where does your mother in law stay in Rajasthan? Unfortunately even in Jaipur you don't get Apple cider vinegar. I don't know whether you get it in Hyderabad. The awareness about ACV is now sinking in the Indian population so it may take some time for this product to be available like pepsi everywhere.
Your mother in law should change to alkaline diet and to start with she can take sodium bi carbonate with lemon juice mixed with water. Sodium bicarbonate she can get from any chemist shop or "Meetha Soda" which is used for some Indian cooking. Take 1/4 tea spoon of soda in a dry glass and put juice of one lemon in that, it will start frothing, once it sttles down put water about half glass stir it so that soda is completely disolved and then ask her to drink it. It should be taken half to one hour after the meal.
She should also take Borax which too can be procured from the chemist. Borax powder and not Boric Acid. Ask her to mix 1/8 tea spoon of Borax powder and 1/4 tea spoon of sea salt in one liter of filtered water and let her finish this one liter of water during the day. Let her do this for five days then give a break for two days and repeat for an other five days. She should get the relief. Good Luck. If you need any help you can call me 09322887066. Baldev"
07/19/2012: Laxshmi from Mumbai, India replies: "Baldev and Jyoti, _____'s (Brand) Apple Cider Vinegar is available in Mumbai at Naturally Yours, Ville Parle (E), Opp. Naveenbhai Thakkar Hall. They give you free Home Delivery all over Mumbai.
Hope you find it, Laxshmi"
07/22/2012: Jyoti from Hyderabad, A.p. replies: "Thanx Baldev and Lakshmi, I've passed your info to my mom in law. She's actually fond of citrus things a lot she takes goose berry juice mixed with water etc. but doesn't gets much relief. My question is that is it curing her arthritis in any ways? Thanx"
12/01/2012: Nonnigram from Pleasant Hill, Ca, Usa replies: "Going to try the ACV and water - do you just do this once a day (morning) with breakfast???? 8 oz glass??? Thanks for any help."
[YEA] 01/17/2012: John from Windsor, Ontario/canada: "Been completely free of arthritis and rheumatism for over 38 years by taking ACV daily in my drinking water. I like the tart taste and do not use honey.
07/10/2012: Thehuntz from Donnelly, Mn. replies: "Another very simple cure for arthritis is glucosime and chondroitin. And the simplest way to get it? Raw Milk. I suffered from advanced arthritis for years until my chiropractor told me glucosime and condroitin was the simplest way to defeat it. And one of the simplest ways to obtain that is raw milk. As there were several people milking near me, I was able to get the raw milk easily and far cheaper than regular milk in the store. For nine years I had no problem until both milkers shut their operation down. My pain came back with a vengeance as if someone were cutting thru my arm socket with a knife. Sleeping was impossible. I finally found another person with raw milke and after 3-4 weeks the pain went completely away once again.
When they pastuerize milk they take away all the good vitamins. Raw milk has those in it. As long as you find, preferably a small independant milker, one that's clean, as they almost all are, you will have no problem. There are no side effects from milk unless you are lactose intolerant, other than good ones. It's a simple, cheap, and very easily absorbed into your bloodstream. You won't be disappointed."
09/29/2013: Viola from Hampton Bays, Ny replies: "A bit of info -- anyone can purchase ACV from Amazon.com"
10/27/2013: Pbird from Wa replies: "Its rather expensive from Amazon unless you have Prime shipping membership. I get it from Safeway, believe it or not."
11/25/2011: Dr. Dinakar Madiman, M.d., Ph.d. from Bangalore, India: "I recommended ACV (American Garden), which was easily available in Mantri Mall, Sampige Road, Bangalore-560003, to be taken with Honey, in 3:1 ratio (15ml of ACV and 1ml of Honey plus 100ml water). This has given some good improvement in Knee Joint condition, after 3 weeks' treatment.
I feel Organic Unfiltered Unpasturated ACV ( so-called 'Mother'grade) will work much better and faster to give good results.
I want to know where this particular ACV (any brand) is available in Bangalore."
07/17/2011: Dok from Charlotte, Nc: "the arthritis I experience in the hip area is secondary to mild scoliosis. Has anyone experienced any results using Apple Cider Vinegar and honey in that case. I'm gonna start today. Just wanted to know if there were any veterans out there. I enjoyed all the information so far. I will let u know my results though if there are'nt any takers out there."Replies
08/11/2011: Zdawg from Columbus, Ohio replies: "had knee scope on 7/14/11 still have soreness in the inside of my knee. Will vinegar help with that. Some ppl say it will. How much do you take daily?"
[YEA] 08/16/2011: Iowama from Pella, Ia/usa replies: "I have concluded that the ACV tonic is working well for me. I quit drinking coffee and started drinking one cup of this tonic per day about 6 weeks ago and began to notice that the nodules on my finger joints appeared less inflamed and they also appeared to be smaller and that other joints were no longer hurting. Also, I have just felt so energetic. I had started oil pulling just a week prior, so I wasn't sure which remedy was helping with the arthritis. Then I stopped drinking the tonic for just the past 2 days and today the pain came back in some of my joints. I guess I have my answer! I am mixing 1 TBSP ACV with 1/8 tsp baking soda. Somewhere on this site, I read that men can use 1/4 tsp of baking soda. After all the fizzing is finished, I stir in hot water and a teaspoon of honey. Now that I'm sure it is working for me, I will start to experiment with some of the other ACV teas that posters have suggested. I would like to send my sincere thanks to Ted and to all who have recorded their stories for the benefit of all of us."
10/31/2011: Harvey from Victoria, Australia replies: "People ask if ACV will cure their arthritis. This is not possible. Curing is an internal biological function that only the body can perform. A scientific, natural diet, deep breathing, exercise, rest, relaxation and all forms of natural hygiene are required to put the body in a condition to cure itself. ACV is an important part of the program. When all of the supreme forces of nature are used, the body will turn from the sick-side to the well side. Health is something you must desire, earn and always protect!"
12/22/2011: Lucyna from Guelph, Ontario, Canada replies: "Thank you Harvey for your post. The best Christmas gift I could receive. I will write again after holidays. Best wishes to you and all!"
06/03/2011: Tramz18 from Charlotte, Nc, Usa: "Just wondering, how long , or how soon, after you start taking the Apple Cider Vinegar for arthritus pain, have people reported starting to see some relief, and to what degree of relief? Toby"Replies
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 07/09/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "I'd like to post a photo, taken of my hand about 9 days ago and a current one for you to see the major difference that has taken place already.
I was out of apple cider vinegar, but I had a really vinegary bottle of kombucha in the fridge (which I keep to seed new batches of kombucha) so I started with that. 2 tablespoons kombucha, 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax (after reading about the apples and borax on your site) but it was very sweet so I changed to 6 tablespoons kombucha. (now this is really yummy! ) I make it in the morning and drink it before mealtimes together with 3 capsules of odourless garlic. The last 3 days I am using 2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax, it is much more sour than the kombucha mixture so I dilute it with some kombucha and still take it 3 times a day with the 3 garlic capsules before mealtimes.
I also take biochemic tissue salt no 10 - Nat Phos - 2 tablets under the tongue - about 6 times a day.
An acid alkaline food table is pasted in the kitchen and I try to eat as many foods from the alkaline side as possible."
07/10/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi can I suggest that you start taking MSM.. As well I'll post shortly with regards to my wife's battle with RA. It seems that after taking it for a few days it compilments all the other stuff and the various conditions improve exponentialy. Just about every modern food has had this essential ingredient removed, The science on the Calcium and potasium cycle is reasonably well known but the Sulphur cycle appears to be missed until recently. Unfortunately, modern man might in the future have to supplement this."
07/12/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Thanks for the information. I had to look up MSM first, I had no idea what it was. This weekend I will have a look what brands are available at the chemist.
I am wondering if the teaspoon borax a day is a bit much? I have headaches the last 3 days and also often feel nauseous. It is not conditions that I normally get."
The borax dosage, as posted multiple times on this site, is NO MORE THAN 1/8th - 1/4th of a teaspoon of borax in at least 1 liter of water a day, sipped throughout the day.
PLEASE STOP THIS REMEDY IMMEDIATELY!
07/12/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "CRIPES!!!!! Just lick your finger shove it into the Borax and swirl it around in an 8oz grlass of water.. Thats the rule of thumb amount. What your taking is heading for toxicity."
07/13/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Yes, I got that a bit wrong! I've read up on Boron/Borax sites now too and have adjusted the amount of borax to that what clings to a wet fingertip.
If the lumps on my fingers continue to recede at this rate I will be able able to report "CURED! " soon.
Right Hand can close properly already with all 4 fingers almost straight, bending properly and touching the palm. Can use it properly now, no pain when using it.
Left hand ring finger was always unafflicted, pinky still skew but almost no swelling of the joints and already touching the palm, this is the only finger where both joints were afflicted. Index finger still skew with fairly swollen joint and not close to touching palm, middle finger was worst, still skew, joint still huge but protruding hump almost gone, still not bending much but getting better daily.
Looking forward to adding the MSM to the brew."
07/13/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Thank God you had us worried. I moved two ton of wood yesterday bending and lifting.. Six months ago I would have been laid up for a month. Ive no pain in the lower back area at all. Ginger tumeric and cayenne sorted it out really well but I still had to be carefull, but since adding the MSM its the third week since starting it.. And it feels like their never was a problem. It has done something on a very basic level. I'm 64 years old and getting more supple than I've been for a very long time."
07/13/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Sounds great Gavin! Keep up the good work! I wonder why it is so hard for people to try the natural cures instead of all the chemicals that they gladly swallow at huge costs?
My dad was a great "home doctor", he had a remedy for every ailment. He had a concoction for burns that worked so well. Wish I could get the recipe somewhere. It was yellowish and a bit oily. I know there was lime in it. It was either slaked lime or agricultural lime. (don't know if my translation to english is correct) When my mom wanted to make some more years after my dad passed on she was told that she can't buy/use it as it is toxic."
07/27/2011: Sharon from Portlaoise, Co.laois Ireland replies: "Gavin I was just wondering if you mixed the ginger, tumeric, and cayenne together? Or if you took it seperately?"
07/29/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi sharon. I actualy cut the ginger into thin slices about a inch by half inch cube.. Chop some garlic like two to three cloves and give them a quick stir fry in a wok... Then push it over to one side and fry some organic bread untill its crispy.. Im using grapeseed oil... Then flip the bread out and put the garlic and ginger on top... Then the cayenne gets pressed into the corner of the bread, and a bit of tumeric on top of the cvayenne... I fry an egg and pop this on top. I eat the corner with the cayenne and tumeric first. The Oil takes most of the heat out.. And then just finish the rest off... Ive been doing this everyday now for months, about noon.. And for some reason have not got tired of it. By sweating the Garlic in the wok a bit, you can eat more as its not raw. It certainly settled the back issue. But it compliments eveything, its the ACV and Honey that initialy clear the sinuses."
10/16/2011: Charmaine from Durban, South Africa replies: "This is a question directed to Oppiesee from Cape Town SA. I would like to know which shop supplies or sells Borox in South Africa."
10/23/2011: Sonja from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi, I'm a newcomer to Earth Clinic, and have a question for Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand. I've had osteoarthritis on my knees and lower back for some years, and recently seemed to have also developed rheumatoid arthritis in my knees and fingers. Could you please please post the details of the remedies that you use such that you are able to move two tons of wood without pain? Thanks so very much.
10/24/2011: Eric from Sydney, Nsw Australia replies: "62 years young, suffering from painful bones in feet and arthritis starting in fingers etc. Hard to walk without limping."
10/24/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "I think it was about a week on cayenne, Turmeric and ginger, before I noticed that the lower back was pain free... But I take a swig of MSM. In the evenings and a dollop of honey and apple cider vinegar mornings and evenings. I started that for sinus headaches and they stopped immiediatly. I take 3mgs of boron and a kelp tablet everday. I tried a course of haluronic acid, like a month without problems then it seemed that old bone injuries were playing up, so I stopped it and in a couple of days they stopped playing up. I also have a couple of raw cloves of garlic, everday. And three capsules of fish oil. Plus a popular multi vitamin for over fifties. If all this sounds a bit much its just to cover all the bases. I dont ache any more and I have no lines or wrinkles. I'm going on 65 and feel better then I did at fifty. I'm sure the main problem was not getting essential elements.. The Mrs has slightly deformed joints wrist and foot. , but shes on basicly the same as me but hasnt had a flair up for a long time.
There's a type two collagen product they make in Canada it was reported in the prestigious science magazine Nature, that is made from chicken breast cartilidge.. It seems the nearest thing for a cure to the condition, as the trials were very positive, any review in "Nature" is subject to rigourous assesment.. In a double blind all on the chicken supplement were virtually cured.. All on the placebo showed no change.. I've ordered some from the manufacturers for the mrs.. Its called NU JOINT (sorry ec) if anyones interested.. Its either that or process your own chicken breasts.. I hope this helps."
10/24/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Boron helps certain types of arthritic joint pain. I take 3mg once or twice a day in pill form, along with Magnesium 400mg / D3 at 5,000 IU / and some Calcium (as I don't eat dairy). I know that taking CA is under dispute by some - but I find that I get muscle aches when I don't take it for a few days, so I must need it to some degree. I try to take less CA than I do MG however.
Boron is the key to relieving joint pain though - It is nothing short of amazing.
Google "Boron and Arthritis" to read about it. Lots of info here on EC too.
12/17/2011: Michael Cee from Glenwood, New Jersey replies: "What is MSM? Gavin from New Zealand mentions it in his post 10/24/2011. Thank you."
EC: Michael, you'll find that Gavin is referring to Methyl Sulfonyl Methane, a natural compound similar to DMSO. For more info, check out our MSM page here.
06/18/2013: Estelle from Cape Town, South Africa replies: "Hi... A question for Gavin. I have tried to read exactly the amounts and what all must be used for pain in hands, arms, back and feet... Will it be possible to please send me a list of exactly what you use and also quantities, so I can get rid of the pain... Thanx!"
06/19/2013: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "I haven't got arthritis. The Mrs had it quite badly, but apparently its now in remission and it dosn't bother her. She takes root ginger tea, with a couple of capfulls of ACV. And a teaspoon of honey every evening. The amount of ginger is about a cubic inch diced up and put in a cup, then pore some boiling water to half fill the cup and leave it to steep for a couple of hours. When you want to drink, (save the ginger by straining the juice, and pour boiling water on it and let it steep in another cup, there still plenty of ginger oils left for another round and will be ok for another cupfull). Top the first cup up with boiling water and add the honey and vinegar. It takes a few days to feel the benifit as the ginger is acumulative. But the science says its as good as Iboprophin for pain, with no side effects. She also takes a 500mg vitamin c.
When I had a bad back the ginger cleared it up in a week, I dont know if it was arthuritis. For the past three months I've been juicing beet apple and carrots, and putting a capful of ACV with a squeeze of lemon in before drinking the concoction. This seems to be maintaining my health really well and after some exercise, like a brisk walk there is definiatly less fatigue involved than before. More than a glassful and the urine goes red, I was taking a glass morning and evening, but it seems quite potent so dropped it to a morning one."
[YEA] 05/18/2011: Tygr from Regina, Saskatchewan: "Hi, Thanks for being there as I have just been diagnosed with arthritis of the ankle. My Doc prescrebed Diclofenac. It has side effects such as (rarely) stroke or heart attack, yikes!!! Now your wonderful site has popped up to my rescue in suggesting ACV. On behalf of my future health THANK YOU!"
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS] 05/05/2011: Paul from Glasgow, Scotland: " "Replies
05/11/2011: Barbara from Manama, Bahrain replies: "Hi,
Try diluting the ACV in more water, I too have RA and found that it gave me heartburn too, so I put the 3 tablespoons of ACV in 500ml water (I use a water bottle for the gym) and add it to the 6 or so glasses of water that I drink throughout the day. Hope this helps."
06/17/2011: Dawn from Oakbank, Manitooba, Canada replies: "I just learnt from my husband ( a chef) there are different qualities of ACV. Try one from a goumet shop. I did wow what a difference."
09/11/2011: Brenda from Mesa, Az replies: "Cabbage juice or sauerkraut (cabagge water and sea salt) works great for heartburn!!!"
10/11/2011: Noel from Palm Springs, Ca, Usa replies: "Try ACV with Baking soda.... 2TBS apple cider vinegar with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 6 oz of water. This will help remove the acidity of the vinegar with the same effective cure of the apple cider vinegar."
06/18/2013: Estelle from Cape Town, South Africa replies: "Unfortunately a lot of people using apple cider vinegar, can't use sodium, so bicarb is out of the question. Rather use organic apple cider vinegar, which is kind to the stomach... Available in most health food stores."
04/21/2011: Noelslay from Melrose, Fl: "I've been diagnosed with arthritis after having severe pain in my knee and leg. My first symptoms were numbness above my knee (for many years) to (more recent) numbness in my leg, from waist down to foot. My MRI's show pinched nerves in my back and torn tissue in my knee. My doctor has recommended a cortisone shot to aleviate the pain in my knee and prescribed anti-inflammatory meds. Question: Would a toddy of ACV and honey help? I am willing to try anything. Masking the symtoms doesn't seem very promising."Replies
04/21/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Hi Noelslay -
For arthritis, I very much recommend that you read about boron. Google "boron and arthritis" and read, read, read! It is still amazing me that taking calcium and magnesium (equal amounts) and 2, 000 units of vitamin D along with 3mg of boron a day have totally taken away the pain I used to have in my hands!
I have always taken Calcium, Magnesium and D - but it seems that adding the Boron was the key. Try it! It is a super cheap supplement - I think I paid less than five dollars for a 6 month supply.
Good luck to you! :-)"
04/22/2011: Noel Slay from Melrose, Florida, Usa replies: "Thanks Carly, I'll take your advice :)"
04/24/2011: Helen from New York replies: "I have had good luck with vinegar, honey and warm water. I didn't think it worked but when I didn't take it for a few days I was in a lot of pain. Back to my drink! Also, I had cortisone shot which didn't help."
04/30/2011: Loretta from Seattle, Wa replies: "Hi Carly, I have RA and Fibromyalgia and Sciatic really bad along with chronic back pain. The latter 3 I certain stemmed from a MVA drunk driver hit my car and totalled it and I sustained 3 herniated disc in low spine and cervical whiplash and had 4 back surgeries in 12 years the first 2 being 5 years apart, then 1997 then 2003 for the herniated discs. Needless to say, I am still in pain day and night and I hate it! It's too darn consuming. I have better things to think about and things I want to do! Also my Md told me I currently have spinal stenosis at the end of my spine in the tailbone area, with bone spurs up and down my spine, and 2 new herniated discs. I was going to have surgery not last July but the year prior, but delayed it due to family issue more emergent than mine. I
I am new here I was searching for natural ways to lose weight to help get rid of the pain everywhere, and take the pressure off my joints and also to find a way to get off of sugar without getting agitated and going through withdrawals.
Could you tell me more about the apple cider vinegar and any other recommendations please?
Thank you very much"
05/05/2011: Margaret from Knoxville, Tn, Usa replies: "Hi Loretta, I also have RA. After briefly trying out some of the BigPharma offerings, I started taking ACV with honey. I take 2 tablespoons of ACV with 2 teaspoons of good local honey and a bit of hot water every morning on an empty stomach. Sometimes I do an additional dose in the evening. While I still have some swelling in the joints hardest hit by the RA, I have no pain. None at all. As a wonderful side effect, I also stay remarkably healthy while those around me suffer from colds, flu, etc.
Another good remedy for inflammation in the body is Turmeric. Since I do not care for the taste, I buy empty gelatin capsules from my local healthfood store and fill them myself. Be sure to wear gloves if you try this because the Turmeric will stain anything it touches yellow. I take about 2 teaspoons of Turmeric a day this way.
As far as weight loss - I'm perimenopausal at this time in my life and am fighting that belly bulge myself. Acai berry and Pilates seem to work the best for me. I take 1 teaspoon of Acai (powder that I put in capsules) each day and make myself hit the floor for Pilates several times a week.
Best of luck!"
05/01/2012: Sasha from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "Since your allergic to apples, I would just have my allergist do a scratch testing using ACV. which is a simple test where they scratch your arm like a pin prink and would dab it with ACV and then they wait to see if there is a reaction.
My friend aching joints diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. She went from doctor to doctor no answers She saw a naturopathic doctor who told her she was allergic to gluten. She stopped all gluten products all the symptoms disappeared!"
03/16/2011: Tom from Jackson, Nj: "I have a few questions. Any kind acv, How much do you mix with water, How often do you take it, And long before I feel some relief"
01/28/2011: Lisa from Eastland, Texas, Usa: "I have Heberden's nodes at my finger joints and would like to know if anyone has had good results treating this condition with ACV. Please feel free to contact me. Thanks very much!"Replies
[YEA] 01/30/2011: Gavin from Manganui, New Zealand replies: "Yes definiatly I had them on most of my finger joints, and I've been on ACV for a year and they have all gone but one, and that has definiatly reduced."
01/31/2011: Subee from Lindenhurst, Ny, Usa replies: "Gavin, how much ACV did you take each day to eliminate the heberden's nodes? Thanks for your reply"
02/19/2011: Rflowers from Kihei, Hawaii replies: "Gavin from Manganui, New Zealand Please reply to this email if you would..
I too have those Heberden's nodes and was wondering how you got them off and how much ACV did you take for them? thxs"
03/28/2011: Georgia from St.louis, Usa replies: "I have one on my ring finger. I would like to know how much ACV Gavin took on a regular basis. Right now I drink a tablespoon in water twice a day. The node showed up in December. I hope we can all benefit from Gavin's information."
[YEA] 04/28/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Sorry for the delay in replying as I haven't popped in for awhile.. With regards to the amount.. I pour a capful into a glass and put about three times that amount of water with it.. Then take a spoonfull of honey and keep it in the side of my mouth whilst sipping the Apple Cider Vinegar I let the honey go down with each sip.. I think the Apple Cider Vinegar and honey must go down together to get the full benifit, as the vinegar cracks the honey in the stomach.. I'm taking it morning and evening for the last eighteen months. I have one last nodule left on my right hand second finger but that might have been joint damage due to an accident and not a nodule. They were on most of my finger joints to some degree.
I must say that after trying the stuff out at earthclinic my health has never been better.. Just about all the agues of age have cleared up. After not seeing my daughter for about four months when I started on the Apple Cider Vinegar she said "My god you look like you have lost twenty years".. I must admit I feel it as well.. Im on other stuff as well.. I smoke and drink moderately."
06/02/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Just a bit more on the apple cider vinegar, for arthitis. Ive found out that apparently apple trees are sprayed with Boron.. If they arn't the fruit has depressed brown spots that are the signs of the Boron deficiency.. By observing the amount of YEAS for apple cider vinegar. Then reading about the boron and arthritis thread I put two and two together. My wife dosnt like the taste of ACV. And she has Osteo arthritis... I've just taken the liberty of getting her six weeks supply of 3mg boron capsules, the fact she is post menopausal and its supposed to be the natural equivelent to HRT. As well! .. I'll stay posting on this in a few weeks to see what happens."
06/02/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Hi Gavin - I look forward to hearing what the results are for your wife. It seems like a lot of people intend to post their rusults, but many don't. I do hope you post back. I am a firm believer in boron for arthritis. :)
You can make the ACV more tasty by adding 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda, and when the fizzing stops, add water and a splash of orange juice. It is actually quite good tasting that way.
06/03/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Thanks I will definiatly keep this updated.. Just an addenum.. If the diet is low on Boron, its most likely low in all the other essential elements as well. So shes taking C..... N multivitamins as well. Plus glucosamine and Chondritin. Oh and three salmon oil capsules a day. The information ive read suggest that if your under sixty it takes a month to show improvement and if over a couple of months."
06/03/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Yes, that makes sense if you ar elow on boron you might be low on other minerals. I have heard good things about the salmon oil (we call it omega 3 fatty acids here in the states) as well for inflamation. You might also want to look at the fulvic acid pages here on EC and on the web in general.... trace minerals GALORE.
When I started the boron I noticed my hands were improved one morning - they just didn't hurt any more - it was a miracle to me. I believe it was under two weeks of taking it. Every person is different though! :-)"
[YEA] 07/26/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "This is an update on my wife's Arthritis.. Due to all the natural cures and ideas posted. With her aquiesence I decided to "shotgun" the condition provided the "naturals" were not harmful. She is off the Prednisone with no problems. Her rhumatoid factor results are normal.. But the Rhumitologist wanted her to stay on a low dose of Methotrexate 10mg a week because he was worried it might flare up. I have the suspicion that the drug might not be standing much of a chance with regards to the amount of antioxidents in the shotgun mix. Health wise she's really good, and the condition she's had for at least twenty years isnt impacting her life at all.
Here is a list of what she's taking.. I subsituted the prednisone with a cup of ginger root tea, with a teaspoon of honey, and a cap of ACV. in it before bed.... 1000mg of vitamin C.. 3mg of Boron.. One Centrum over fifties vitamin and mineral pill.... 2 capsules of 450mg Devils claw... Selenium with ACand E... 1 zinc B6 and Magnesium... 3 high potency fish oil caspsules.... And MSM.... I had to drop the Glucosamine and Chondritin.. due to the headaches, caused by the mix of MSM and Chondritin. (thanks to whoever posted that information). These went when it was dropped.. But definitaly maintained the MSM.. I didnt want to just use Boron as copper and all the rest of the minerals are all notes in the music.. (So to speak). Theirs also a teaspoonful of virgin Coconut oil everyday. Her skin is lookin, really good and any post menopausal symptoms are non existent. In fact after two months of this shes definitly not having any problems."
08/13/2011: Julieth from Elizabeth, Usa replies: "Hi! I was wondering if your wife takes all supplements at the same time? Does she take the Apple Cider Vinegar along with all those pills, including the multivatimin?"
08/29/2011: Babie from Singapore replies: "Hi Gavin from Manganui,
Tks for sharing yr wife's experience. I too have RA but with SLE as well. I am on prednisone & Methotrexate daily. I am taking calcium & glucosamine supplements.
I am 46 & maybe going thru menopause. Does one suffer joint pains more when going thru menopause? I just started on ACV & honey but the pain in my left knee still persists. In fact I thought it was worst now. Anybody has the same experience? I took 1 tablespoon of ACV & 1 tablespoon of honey with warm water twice a day - morning & nite.
Appreciate your feedback, thanks!"
08/30/2011: Craig from Hamilton, Nz replies: "Hi Gavin (Mangonui), Can you help me please - where do you get borax in NZ? Thanks."
08/30/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi Craig Ive only seen it at the Chemist.. Usualy at floor level I think it was about 11 dollars a packet. Probably for washing clothes with bedbugs... If you want the 3mg Boron tablets I get them online. Its a quick next day delivery. Healthandherbs albany."
08/30/2011: Stonefieldsian from Auckland, New Zealand replies: "If you only need small quantity try TradeMe and search BORAX. If you need larger quantity like 10Kg, try www.gardenews.co.nz (click: BULK PRODUCTS AND THEIR USES)"
08/31/2011: Craig from Hamilton, Nz replies: "Wonderful - thank you both very much! Regards, Craig"
07/31/2010: Zee from Webster, Ny: "Hi all! What a wonderful site!!! I have been looking for a long time for something that would ease pain from arthritic knees (my father's knees are so bad that he can hardly walk, although otherwise he is in a very good shape for 82 year old). But all the remedies I read about here deal with with rheumatoid arthritis (I'm not in any sort of medical field, so forgive me if I am wrong). What my Dad has is, I believe, osteoarthritis from wear and tear on his knees: he was a basketball player in his younger age and at that time they did not know how to make comfortable and protective sport shoes in Russia (that is where he lives). If the Apple Cider Vinegar remedy can help with this, could you please let me know. Thank you in advance!!! And thank you again for this wonderful site!"
06/24/2010: Ann from Bellingham, Wa: "I just started using acv for arthritis in my thumb. My husband has always mixed his acv in maple syrup and suggested I do the same. It's very good. I mix 2 tablespoons acv, 1 tablespoon maple syrup in about 10-12 oz. water. It's just enough sweet to take the edge off plus maple syrup has beneficial nutrients."