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Apple Cider Vinegar Treatment for Arthritis

Home Remedy Ingredients

• Apple Cider Vinegar - 2 teaspoons up to 1/4 cup
• Filtered Water - 32 Oz
• Honey (optional)

Mix as much as a quarter-cup of unpasteurized apple cider vinegar into 32oz of water (start with a tablespoon of ACV, then increase slowly day by day). Optionally, add a natural sweetener. Try sipping this ACV tonic throughout the day for a constant alkalizing effect.

07/10/2012: Thehuntz from Donnelly, Mn. replies: "Another very simple cure for arthritis is glucosime and chondroitin. And the simplest way to get it? Raw Milk. I suffered from advanced arthritis for years until my chiropractor told me glucosime and condroitin was the simplest way to defeat it. And one of the simplest ways to obtain that is raw milk. As there were several people milking near me, I was able to get the raw milk easily and far cheaper than regular milk in the store. For nine years I had no problem until both milkers shut their operation down. My pain came back with a vengeance as if someone were cutting thru my arm socket with a knife. Sleeping was impossible. I finally found another person with raw milke and after 3-4 weeks the pain went completely away once again.

When they pastuerize milk they take away all the good vitamins. Raw milk has those in it. As long as you find, preferably a small independant milker, one that's clean, as they almost all are, you will have no problem. There are no side effects from milk unless you are lactose intolerant, other than good ones. It's a simple, cheap, and very easily absorbed into your bloodstream. You won't be disappointed."

08/11/2011: Zdawg from Columbus, Ohio replies: "had knee scope on 7/14/11 still have soreness in the inside of my knee. Will vinegar help with that. Some ppl say it will. How much do you take daily?"

[YEA]  08/16/2011: Iowama from Pella, Ia/usa replies: "I have concluded that the ACV tonic is working well for me. I quit drinking coffee and started drinking one cup of this tonic per day about 6 weeks ago and began to notice that the nodules on my finger joints appeared less inflamed and they also appeared to be smaller and that other joints were no longer hurting. Also, I have just felt so energetic. I had started oil pulling just a week prior, so I wasn't sure which remedy was helping with the arthritis. Then I stopped drinking the tonic for just the past 2 days and today the pain came back in some of my joints. I guess I have my answer! I am mixing 1 TBSP ACV with 1/8 tsp baking soda. Somewhere on this site, I read that men can use 1/4 tsp of baking soda. After all the fizzing is finished, I stir in hot water and a teaspoon of honey. Now that I'm sure it is working for me, I will start to experiment with some of the other ACV teas that posters have suggested. I would like to send my sincere thanks to Ted and to all who have recorded their stories for the benefit of all of us."

10/31/2011: Harvey from Victoria, Australia replies: "People ask if ACV will cure their arthritis. This is not possible. Curing is an internal biological function that only the body can perform. A scientific, natural diet, deep breathing, exercise, rest, relaxation and all forms of natural hygiene are required to put the body in a condition to cure itself. ACV is an important part of the program. When all of the supreme forces of nature are used, the body will turn from the sick-side to the well side. Health is something you must desire, earn and always protect!"

12/22/2011: Lucyna from Guelph, Ontario, Canada replies: "Thank you Harvey for your post. The best Christmas gift I could receive. I will write again after holidays. Best wishes to you and all!"

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  07/09/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "I'd like to post a photo, taken of my hand about 9 days ago and a current one for you to see the major difference that has taken place already.

I was out of apple cider vinegar, but I had a really vinegary bottle of kombucha in the fridge (which I keep to seed new batches of kombucha) so I started with that. 2 tablespoons kombucha, 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax (after reading about the apples and borax on your site) but it was very sweet so I changed to 6 tablespoons kombucha. (now this is really yummy! ) I make it in the morning and drink it before mealtimes together with 3 capsules of odourless garlic. The last 3 days I am using 2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax, it is much more sour than the kombucha mixture so I dilute it with some kombucha and still take it 3 times a day with the 3 garlic capsules before mealtimes.

I also take biochemic tissue salt no 10 - Nat Phos - 2 tablets under the tongue - about 6 times a day.

An acid alkaline food table is pasted in the kitchen and I try to eat as many foods from the alkaline side as possible."

07/10/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi can I suggest that you start taking MSM.. As well I'll post shortly with regards to my wife's battle with RA. It seems that after taking it for a few days it compilments all the other stuff and the various conditions improve exponentialy. Just about every modern food has had this essential ingredient removed, The science on the Calcium and potasium cycle is reasonably well known but the Sulphur cycle appears to be missed until recently. Unfortunately, modern man might in the future have to supplement this."

07/12/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Thanks for the information. I had to look up MSM first, I had no idea what it was. This weekend I will have a look what brands are available at the chemist.

I am wondering if the teaspoon borax a day is a bit much? I have headaches the last 3 days and also often feel nauseous. It is not conditions that I normally get."

EC: WARNING!

The borax dosage, as posted multiple times on this site, is NO MORE THAN 1/8th - 1/4th of a teaspoon of borax in at least 1 liter of water a day, sipped throughout the day.

PLEASE STOP THIS REMEDY IMMEDIATELY!

07/12/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "CRIPES!!!!! Just lick your finger shove it into the Borax and swirl it around in an 8oz grlass of water.. Thats the rule of thumb amount. What your taking is heading for toxicity."

07/13/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Yes, I got that a bit wrong! I've read up on Boron/Borax sites now too and have adjusted the amount of borax to that what clings to a wet fingertip.

If the lumps on my fingers continue to recede at this rate I will be able able to report "CURED! " soon.

Right Hand can close properly already with all 4 fingers almost straight, bending properly and touching the palm. Can use it properly now, no pain when using it.

Left hand ring finger was always unafflicted, pinky still skew but almost no swelling of the joints and already touching the palm, this is the only finger where both joints were afflicted. Index finger still skew with fairly swollen joint and not close to touching palm, middle finger was worst, still skew, joint still huge but protruding hump almost gone, still not bending much but getting better daily.

Looking forward to adding the MSM to the brew."

07/13/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Thank God you had us worried. I moved two ton of wood yesterday bending and lifting.. Six months ago I would have been laid up for a month. Ive no pain in the lower back area at all. Ginger tumeric and cayenne sorted it out really well but I still had to be carefull, but since adding the MSM its the third week since starting it.. And it feels like their never was a problem. It has done something on a very basic level. I'm 64 years old and getting more supple than I've been for a very long time."

07/13/2011: Oppiesee from Cape Town, Sa replies: "Sounds great Gavin! Keep up the good work! I wonder why it is so hard for people to try the natural cures instead of all the chemicals that they gladly swallow at huge costs?

My dad was a great "home doctor", he had a remedy for every ailment. He had a concoction for burns that worked so well. Wish I could get the recipe somewhere. It was yellowish and a bit oily. I know there was lime in it. It was either slaked lime or agricultural lime. (don't know if my translation to english is correct) When my mom wanted to make some more years after my dad passed on she was told that she can't buy/use it as it is toxic."

07/27/2011: Sharon from Portlaoise, Co.laois Ireland replies: "Gavin I was just wondering if you mixed the ginger, tumeric, and cayenne together? Or if you took it seperately?"

07/29/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi sharon. I actualy cut the ginger into thin slices about a inch by half inch cube.. Chop some garlic like two to three cloves and give them a quick stir fry in a wok... Then push it over to one side and fry some organic bread untill its crispy.. Im using grapeseed oil... Then flip the bread out and put the garlic and ginger on top... Then the cayenne gets pressed into the corner of the bread, and a bit of tumeric on top of the cvayenne... I fry an egg and pop this on top. I eat the corner with the cayenne and tumeric first. The Oil takes most of the heat out.. And then just finish the rest off... Ive been doing this everyday now for months, about noon.. And for some reason have not got tired of it. By sweating the Garlic in the wok a bit, you can eat more as its not raw. It certainly settled the back issue. But it compliments eveything, its the ACV and Honey that initialy clear the sinuses."

10/16/2011: Charmaine from Durban, South Africa replies: "This is a question directed to Oppiesee from Cape Town SA. I would like to know which shop supplies or sells Borox in South Africa."

10/23/2011: Sonja from Toronto, Ontario, Canada replies: "Hi, I'm a newcomer to Earth Clinic, and have a question for Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand. I've had osteoarthritis on my knees and lower back for some years, and recently seemed to have also developed rheumatoid arthritis in my knees and fingers. Could you please please post the details of the remedies that you use such that you are able to move two tons of wood without pain? Thanks so very much.

Sonja"

10/24/2011: Eric from Sydney, Nsw Australia replies: "62 years young, suffering from painful bones in feet and arthritis starting in fingers etc. Hard to walk without limping."

10/24/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "I think it was about a week on cayenne, Turmeric and ginger, before I noticed that the lower back was pain free... But I take a swig of MSM. In the evenings and a dollop of honey and apple cider vinegar mornings and evenings. I started that for sinus headaches and they stopped immiediatly. I take 3mgs of boron and a kelp tablet everday. I tried a course of haluronic acid, like a month without problems then it seemed that old bone injuries were playing up, so I stopped it and in a couple of days they stopped playing up. I also have a couple of raw cloves of garlic, everday. And three capsules of fish oil. Plus a popular multi vitamin for over fifties. If all this sounds a bit much its just to cover all the bases. I dont ache any more and I have no lines or wrinkles. I'm going on 65 and feel better then I did at fifty. I'm sure the main problem was not getting essential elements.. The Mrs has slightly deformed joints wrist and foot. , but shes on basicly the same as me but hasnt had a flair up for a long time.

There's a type two collagen product they make in Canada it was reported in the prestigious science magazine Nature, that is made from chicken breast cartilidge.. It seems the nearest thing for a cure to the condition, as the trials were very positive, any review in "Nature" is subject to rigourous assesment.. In a double blind all on the chicken supplement were virtually cured.. All on the placebo showed no change.. I've ordered some from the manufacturers for the mrs.. Its called NU JOINT (sorry ec) if anyones interested.. Its either that or process your own chicken breasts.. I hope this helps."

10/24/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Boron helps certain types of arthritic joint pain. I take 3mg once or twice a day in pill form, along with Magnesium 400mg / D3 at 5,000 IU / and some Calcium (as I don't eat dairy). I know that taking CA is under dispute by some - but I find that I get muscle aches when I don't take it for a few days, so I must need it to some degree. I try to take less CA than I do MG however.

Boron is the key to relieving joint pain though - It is nothing short of amazing.

Google "Boron and Arthritis" to read about it. Lots of info here on EC too.

:-)"

12/17/2011: Michael Cee from Glenwood, New Jersey replies: "What is MSM? Gavin from New Zealand mentions it in his post 10/24/2011. Thank you."

EC: Michael, you'll find that Gavin is referring to Methyl Sulfonyl Methane, a natural compound similar to DMSO. For more info, check out our MSM page here.

05/11/2011: Barbara from Manama, Bahrain replies: "Hi,

Try diluting the ACV in more water, I too have RA and found that it gave me heartburn too, so I put the 3 tablespoons of ACV in 500ml water (I use a water bottle for the gym) and add it to the 6 or so glasses of water that I drink throughout the day. Hope this helps."

06/17/2011: Dawn from Oakbank, Manitooba, Canada replies: "I just learnt from my husband ( a chef) there are different qualities of ACV. Try one from a goumet shop. I did wow what a difference."

09/11/2011: Brenda from Mesa, Az replies: "Cabbage juice or sauerkraut (cabagge water and sea salt) works great for heartburn!!!"

10/11/2011: Noel from Palm Springs, Ca, Usa replies: "Try ACV with Baking soda.... 2TBS apple cider vinegar with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 6 oz of water. This will help remove the acidity of the vinegar with the same effective cure of the apple cider vinegar."

04/21/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Hi Noelslay -

For arthritis, I very much recommend that you read about boron. Google "boron and arthritis" and read, read, read! It is still amazing me that taking calcium and magnesium (equal amounts) and 2, 000 units of vitamin D along with 3mg of boron a day have totally taken away the pain I used to have in my hands!

I have always taken Calcium, Magnesium and D - but it seems that adding the Boron was the key. Try it! It is a super cheap supplement - I think I paid less than five dollars for a 6 month supply.

Good luck to you! :-)"

04/22/2011: Noel Slay from Melrose, Florida, Usa replies: "Thanks Carly, I'll take your advice :)"

04/24/2011: Helen from New York replies: "I have had good luck with vinegar, honey and warm water. I didn't think it worked but when I didn't take it for a few days I was in a lot of pain. Back to my drink! Also, I had cortisone shot which didn't help."

04/30/2011: Loretta from Seattle, Wa replies: "Hi Carly

I have RA and Fibromyalgia and Sciatic really bad along with chronic back pain. The latter 3 I certain stemmed from a MVA drunk driver hit my car and totalled it and I sustained 3 herniated disc in low spine and cervical whiplash and had 4 back surgeries in 12 years the first 2 being 5 years apart, then 1997 then 2003 for the herniated discs. Needless to say, I am still in pain day and night and I hate it! It's too darn consuming. I have better things to think about and things I want to do! Also my Md told me I currently have spinal stenosis at the end of my spine in the tailbone area, with bone spurs up and down my spine, and 2 new herniated discs. I was going to have surgery not last July but the year prior, but delayed it due to family issue more emergent than mine. I

I am new here I was searching for natural ways to lose weight to help get rid of the pain everywhere, and take the pressure off my joints and also to find a way to get off of sugar without getting agitated and going through withdrawals.

Could you tell me more about the apple cider vinegar and any other recommendations please?
Thank you very much"

05/05/2011: Margaret from Knoxville, Tn, Usa replies: "Hi Loretta, I also have RA. After briefly trying out some of the BigPharma offerings, I started taking ACV with honey. I take 2 tablespoons of ACV with 2 teaspoons of good local honey and a bit of hot water every morning on an empty stomach. Sometimes I do an additional dose in the evening. While I still have some swelling in the joints hardest hit by the RA, I have no pain. None at all. As a wonderful side effect, I also stay remarkably healthy while those around me suffer from colds, flu, etc.

Another good remedy for inflammation in the body is Turmeric. Since I do not care for the taste, I buy empty gelatin capsules from my local healthfood store and fill them myself. Be sure to wear gloves if you try this because the Turmeric will stain anything it touches yellow. I take about 2 teaspoons of Turmeric a day this way.

As far as weight loss - I'm perimenopausal at this time in my life and am fighting that belly bulge myself. Acai berry and Pilates seem to work the best for me. I take 1 teaspoon of Acai (powder that I put in capsules) each day and make myself hit the floor for Pilates several times a week.

Best of luck!"

05/01/2012: Sasha from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "Since your allergic to apples, I would just have my allergist do a scratch testing using ACV. which is a simple test where they scratch your arm like a pin prink and would dab it with ACV and then they wait to see if there is a reaction.

My friend aching joints diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. She went from doctor to doctor no answers She saw a naturopathic doctor who told her she was allergic to gluten. She stopped all gluten products all the symptoms disappeared!"

[YEA]  01/30/2011: Gavin from Manganui, New Zealand replies: "Yes definiatly I had them on most of my finger joints, and I've been on ACV for a year and they have all gone but one, and that has definiatly reduced."

01/31/2011: Subee from Lindenhurst, Ny, Usa replies: "Gavin, how much ACV did you take each day to eliminate the heberden's nodes? Thanks for your reply"

02/19/2011: Rflowers from Kihei, Hawaii replies: "Gavin from Manganui, New Zealand Please reply to this email if you would..

I too have those Heberden's nodes and was wondering how you got them off and how much ACV did you take for them? thxs"

03/28/2011: Georgia from St.louis, Usa replies: "I have one on my ring finger. I would like to know how much ACV Gavin took on a regular basis. Right now I drink a tablespoon in water twice a day. The node showed up in December. I hope we can all benefit from Gavin's information."

[YEA]  04/28/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Sorry for the delay in replying as I haven't popped in for awhile.. With regards to the amount.. I pour a capful into a glass and put about three times that amount of water with it.. Then take a spoonfull of honey and keep it in the side of my mouth whilst sipping the Apple Cider Vinegar I let the honey go down with each sip.. I think the Apple Cider Vinegar and honey must go down together to get the full benifit, as the vinegar cracks the honey in the stomach.. I'm taking it morning and evening for the last eighteen months. I have one last nodule left on my right hand second finger but that might have been joint damage due to an accident and not a nodule. They were on most of my finger joints to some degree.

I must say that after trying the stuff out at earthclinic my health has never been better.. Just about all the agues of age have cleared up. After not seeing my daughter for about four months when I started on the Apple Cider Vinegar she said "My god you look like you have lost twenty years".. I must admit I feel it as well.. Im on other stuff as well.. I smoke and drink moderately."

06/02/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Just a bit more on the apple cider vinegar, for arthitis. Ive found out that apparently apple trees are sprayed with Boron.. If they arn't the fruit has depressed brown spots that are the signs of the Boron deficiency.. By observing the amount of YEAS for apple cider vinegar. Then reading about the boron and arthritis thread I put two and two together. My wife dosnt like the taste of ACV. And she has Osteo arthritis... I've just taken the liberty of getting her six weeks supply of 3mg boron capsules, the fact she is post menopausal and its supposed to be the natural equivelent to HRT. As well! .. I'll stay posting on this in a few weeks to see what happens."

06/02/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa - Usa replies: "Hi Gavin - I look forward to hearing what the results are for your wife. It seems like a lot of people intend to post their rusults, but many don't. I do hope you post back. I am a firm believer in boron for arthritis. :)

You can make the ACV more tasty by adding 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda, and when the fizzing stops, add water and a splash of orange juice. It is actually quite good tasting that way.

Best wishes!"

06/03/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Thanks I will definiatly keep this updated.. Just an addenum.. If the diet is low on Boron, its most likely low in all the other essential elements as well. So shes taking C..... N multivitamins as well. Plus glucosamine and Chondritin. Oh and three salmon oil capsules a day. The information ive read suggest that if your under sixty it takes a month to show improvement and if over a couple of months."

06/03/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Yes, that makes sense if you ar elow on boron you might be low on other minerals. I have heard good things about the salmon oil (we call it omega 3 fatty acids here in the states) as well for inflamation. You might also want to look at the fulvic acid pages here on EC and on the web in general.... trace minerals GALORE.

When I started the boron I noticed my hands were improved one morning - they just didn't hurt any more - it was a miracle to me. I believe it was under two weeks of taking it. Every person is different though! :-)"

[YEA]  07/26/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "This is an update on my wife's Arthritis.. Due to all the natural cures and ideas posted. With her aquiesence I decided to "shotgun" the condition provided the "naturals" were not harmful. She is off the Prednisone with no problems. Her rhumatoid factor results are normal.. But the Rhumitologist wanted her to stay on a low dose of Methotrexate 10mg a week because he was worried it might flare up. I have the suspicion that the drug might not be standing much of a chance with regards to the amount of antioxidents in the shotgun mix. Health wise she's really good, and the condition she's had for at least twenty years isnt impacting her life at all.

Here is a list of what she's taking.. I subsituted the prednisone with a cup of ginger root tea, with a teaspoon of honey, and a cap of ACV. in it before bed.... 1000mg of vitamin C.. 3mg of Boron.. One Centrum over fifties vitamin and mineral pill.... 2 capsules of 450mg Devils claw... Selenium with ACand E... 1 zinc B6 and Magnesium... 3 high potency fish oil caspsules.... And MSM.... I had to drop the Glucosamine and Chondritin.. due to the headaches, caused by the mix of MSM and Chondritin. (thanks to whoever posted that information). These went when it was dropped.. But definitaly maintained the MSM.. I didnt want to just use Boron as copper and all the rest of the minerals are all notes in the music.. (So to speak). Theirs also a teaspoonful of virgin Coconut oil everyday. Her skin is lookin, really good and any post menopausal symptoms are non existent. In fact after two months of this shes definitly not having any problems."

08/13/2011: Julieth from Elizabeth, Usa replies: "Hi! I was wondering if your wife takes all supplements at the same time? Does she take the Apple Cider Vinegar along with all those pills, including the multivatimin?"

08/29/2011: Babie from Singapore replies: "Hi Gavin from Manganui,

Tks for sharing yr wife's experience. I too have RA but with SLE as well. I am on prednisone & Methotrexate daily. I am taking calcium & glucosamine supplements.

I am 46 & maybe going thru menopause. Does one suffer joint pains more when going thru menopause? I just started on ACV & honey but the pain in my left knee still persists. In fact I thought it was worst now. Anybody has the same experience? I took 1 tablespoon of ACV & 1 tablespoon of honey with warm water twice a day - morning & nite.

Appreciate your feedback, thanks!"

08/30/2011: Craig from Hamilton, Nz replies: "Hi Gavin (Mangonui), Can you help me please - where do you get borax in NZ? Thanks."

08/30/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand replies: "Hi Craig Ive only seen it at the Chemist.. Usualy at floor level I think it was about 11 dollars a packet. Probably for washing clothes with bedbugs... If you want the 3mg Boron tablets I get them online. Its a quick next day delivery. Healthandherbs albany."

08/30/2011: Stonefieldsian from Auckland, New Zealand replies: "If you only need small quantity try TradeMe and search BORAX. If you need larger quantity like 10Kg, try www.gardenews.co.nz (click: BULK PRODUCTS AND THEIR USES)"

08/31/2011: Craig from Hamilton, Nz replies: "Wonderful - thank you both very much! Regards, Craig"

04/05/2010: Patti from Coconut Creek, Fl replies: "I read on this site for Ted's Remedies that Ted himself often uses plain vinegar instead of ACV because of the expense of ACV where he lives in Thailand."

[YEA]  01/25/2011: San Diego Web Design from San Diego, Ca replies: "I would not recommend regular distilled vinegar, as all of the beneficial nutrients are removed during the distillation process.

If you are allergic to apples, than you may try ACV using only a small teaspoon a day to start, and observe closely if you have any reactions, because it's quite possible you dont have any reactions because it is fermented and organic, of course if you use the brand from B---. (Just don't touch anything that has acetic acid in it with metal, it pulls the metal out, its best to use wood such as a wooden spoon to measure it out.)

Otherwise if you have a reaction or you don't want to take any risks, than the other place to get the beneficial vitamins, nutrients, acetic acid and bacterias are from Kombucha. Which I made kombucha in my house for many months, and it did wonders for my digestive system, but you can also buy it in health stores as well. Just make sure it's raw and organic."

02/28/2010: Bigbird from Denver, Co replies: "ah whats up doc? gonna try this for sure and get back to you thanks for the notion"

09/10/2011: Virginia from Sacramento, Ca replies: "Hi, I just found your website this week and love the healthy remedies offered. I can really use your help as I suffer from severe/chronic neck pain day and night. I cannot bend my neck down for reading, writing, etc. Can you suggest a cocktail of natural foods such as ACV, boron, or whatever to help with the constant pain? Is there anything that will loosen up my neck so that I can have more mobility? I welcome your input. Thank you for helping so many people."

09/10/2011: T from Houston, Usa replies: "Virginia

Please google 'pranic healing'. You can learn to do this simple technique yourself or find someone who can do it for you (in person or long distance). You will be amazed as to how quickly you will be back to normal.

Good luck, T"

09/10/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Virginia, I would think that rubbing magnesium oil on your neck each day would have a beneficial effect on the muscles and the pain. The magnesium taken this way is called transdermal and would benefit your whole body by rubbing on your neck or even rubbing on your legs. Most people are magnesium deficient.

You could even have an epson salt (magnesium sulphate) or a magnesium chloride flake bath which would be beneficial for the pain.

A great website about magnesium is

http://magnesiumforlife.com/"

09/10/2011: Steve from Las Vegas, Nevada, United States replies: "MSM is an excellent supplement to improve mobility in the joints, use a good powder/capsule form and consider taking at least 3000mg/day. Look into low level laser therapy offered by many chiropractors. There are also low level laser therapy pens available on the net."

09/12/2011: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "I had chronic neck pain and a "knot" in my neck. I ate some coconut frozen yogurt with fresh coconut on it and the knot is gone as well as most of the pain!"

03/11/2013: Cc from Gladwin, Michigan replies: "Perhaps the issue isn't the Vinegar but that it wasn't Raw unprocessed vinegar..... It should have what is called the "Mother" on the bottom of the bottle. The enzymes and such are still alive but when it is processed you are drinking a dead liquid... I personally use the brand that is organic , as it is easily available through the internet or health food stores. I have never found unprocessed vinegar at my grocery store so if that is where you bought yours it probably isn't the Raw form."