General Feedback
To Bill from San Fernando, Luzon
I have been taking's Ted's Hyaluronic Acid formula for the disk & back problem on empty stomach (3 times a day), he also recommends taking magnesium citrate on empty stomach also, can I take both of them at the same time ?
Thanks Bill for your advice.
EC: Peter is referring to Ted's reply regarding Hyaluronic Acid in the below thread:
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/favorites.html#ALFRED
04/18/2010: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Hyaluronic acid, yes I buy them from purebulk. The only particular brand I like is not the brand itself but for those formulations used for horses, which is proven to work. Hyaluronic acid is way better then the popular Glucosamine sulfate. It is a miracle supplement against back pain caused by degenerative spinal column.
My formula that works is as follows: 500 mg of Hyaluronic acid powder (sodium hyaluronate) plus 9 grams of sea salt in 500 cc of water. Store in refrigerator when not in used. The formula advocated by the (purebulk) will not work as it degrades Hyaluronic acid since vitamin C will obviously degrade them. They do get more stable if EDTA is added in small amounts as free metal irons tend to degrade them. The dose is about 8 caps three times a day empty stomach. It takes about 2 weeks to completely remove all back pain and the joint affected area in extremities may take a little longer. I have a couple of cases with severe spinal degeneration of cartilage and gets fully restored upon taking of HA. What the HA does is very simple. It is a major component of synovial fluid - spinal fluids. It is also found in your skull that acts as a shock absorber. So if the movie Rocky got decomissioned from boxing, the HA will restore the brain concussion and helps boxers against brain damage as HA will act as shock absorber between the brain and the skull..." continued
(Spain)
11/09/2012
Hello everybody...... After reading many of your feedbacks, i'm a bit confused, since some people is getting positive results but not with HA as itself (only) since many products are mixed with collagen or conditrion and so on.......... About The purebulk HA and Ted's mix---some people can't take salt as you may know so taking it alone isn't it as good as mixed one?
(Toronto, Ontario)
12/21/2014
Hello,
I am begging you to please help me sort thru all this confusion about the reference to Hyaluronic Acid (HA) in Ted's post and so many other posts on this product and treatment. Another poster stated that the HA from purebulk is not pure bcos the Chinese cut it with synthetic?
Ted's quote: "Hyaluronic acid, yes I buy them from purebulk. The only particular brand I like is not the brand itself but for those formulations used for horses, which is proven to work. Purebulk does not sell a equine HA product."
What does this mean and then please, where can I buy the HA Ted is talking about?
Continued from Ted... "My formula that works is as follows: 500 mg of Hyaluronic acid powder (sodium hyaluronate) plus 9 grams of sea salt in 500 cc of water. Store in refrigerator when not in used. The formula advocated by the (purebulk) will not work as it degrades Hyaluronic acid since vitamin C will obviously degrade them. They do get more stable if EDTA is added in small amounts as free metal irons tend to degrade them. The dose is about 8 caps three times a day empty stomach."
Is the EDTA to be added to Ted's formula? Or is the EDTA only added if the vitamin C is included?
I wish that someone from EC would post clearer instructions for Ted's bulk formula and where to buy it. Should it be taken on an empty stomach, or with food? What size caps is he referring to? What would the dosage be in teaspoons instead of caps? I have read so many of the posts on this subject and it seems that many people are very, very confused as well. Some say to just buy the product already prepared by natural product suppliers and others say it doesn't work.
Then Alfred from Bangkok swears by Purity Products.com and yet when I do a google search review on the Purity company, Many people have been burned by Purity, stating it's a scam. Why is Purity so unethical with it ordering/shipping "IF" it's such a quality product???
I am in much pain and would like a real easy and cheap method of taking the effective type HA, which will cure and not just manage my degenerative disc disease.
Will you please help me. Thank you.
(San Fernando)
12/21/2014
Hi Missy...I'm not sure why you have had so much trouble finding hyaluronic acid on purebulk. All I did was go to purebulk and type in "hyaluronic acid" in their search box at the top and I found it straight away. See this link.
I also checked the other website you mentioned and complained about from Alfred and did exactly the same thing -- I searched for and found hyaluronic acid on the Purity Products website within two seconds. See this link.
And if you had just typed "hyaluronic acid health" into Google Search(as I have just done) then you would have gotten hundreds of hits on other sites also selling oral HA.
The dose for HA is to put 500 mgs HA(1/8 tspn powder) into 500 mls of water and then add two level teaspoons of sea salt. The sea salt is necessary because it helps to increase the absorption of HA into the body. This will heal spinal degeneration problems. Take 5 capfuls of this mixture three times a day outside mealtimes. The term "caps" or "capfuls" refers to the cap on the bottle itself in which you store the hyaluronic/sea salt mixture.
And Ted does not advise using Vitamin C with this protocol. When people say vitamin C everyone usually thinks of Ascorbic Acid -- which is the wrong oxidant form, not an anti-oxidant. In other words the Ascorbic Acid form will act to oxidize the HA and make it useless to you. The proper and useful anti-oxidant form of vitamin C is as ascorbate. To avoid all this confusion that is why Ted advises adding a small amount of EDTA -- no confusion here -- to the HA solution as an anti-oxidant and heavy metal detoxer to help prevent oxidation and breakdown of the HA in the solution during storage in the fridge.
(On)
12/21/2014
Thank you for your response but you obviously didn't read my post all the way thru. The issue is NOT that I can't use google to find HA, the issue is (quote from my post):
Ted's quote: "Hyaluronic acid, yes I buy them from purebulk. The only particular brand I like is not the brand itself but for those formulations used for horses, which is proven to work.
Another poster's quote in reply to Ted's post above: Purebulk does not sell a equine HA product." What does this mean and then please, where can I buy the HA Ted is talking about?
Another poster stated that the HA from purebulk is not pure bcos the Chinese cut it with synthetic?
My question: If Ted prefers the HA used on horses, and if another person states that Purebulk does not sell equine HA, then from whom does Ted buy this "horse HA"??? Yet another poster claims that Purebulk cuts it with synthetic. (Scary! )
My question could not be plainer in lieu of the above quotes/statements by other posters.
Next quote from my post: Then Alfred from Bangkok swears by Purity Products.com and yet when I do a google search review on the Purity company, many people have been burned by Purity, stating it's a scam. Why is Purity so unethical with it's ordering/shipping "IF" it's such a quality product???
Google search:
- Ripoff Report | Purity Products Complaint Review Plainview ...
- 124 PURITY PRODUCTS Complaints and reviews
http://purity-products.pissedconsumer.com
- Top 10 Reviews of Purity Products - My3cents.com
http://mythreecents.com/reviews/purity-products
Those are only 3 review google searches on Purity Products. There are other negative links.
If Purity Products is such a good product, why are they so unethical in their shipping and credit card practises and why would Alfred recommend them???
I certainly don't want to even remotely try ordering from them. Apparently, once they have your credit card info, they continuously bill and ship product at their will.
Next, Using "bottle caps" as a mode of measurements is just plain wrong. Not all water bottle companies use the same size cap! Some use wider caps, others use smaller caps, depending on the size of the bottle. So what is the proper measurement in terms of measuring spoons? And what type of water, spring or distilled?
You also missed the fact that I stated that I would prefer to buy in bulk since the HA supplements that many companies are selling are very expensive. The prices in my health food stores, here in Canada are anywhere from $45 and up, for 100mg of HA, 60 capsules, which also have other things added to the mix.
According to the link you provided for Purebulk, they have 3 HA's to chose from. So which one does or did Ted use? HA (bovine, vegan or vegan wheat free). None of these 3 even remotely describe the use for horses!
Also, you didn't answer whether it should be taken on an empty stomach or with food.
Bottom line, if you went and read ALL the posts to Ted about Purebulk, then you would see where so much confusion lays. Another poster found the HA from Purebulk, when mixed, grey and not blending very well.
Your reply has left me still confused as to where to buy in bulk this "horse type of HA, since it's been stated by another poster that Purebulk does not carry it, and that Purebulk uses synthetic in their product! btw: They sell it in lots of 10g bag, 25g bag, 50g bag. Which size of bag should one order for a mth supply? Ted says to use 500mg of HA and according to you, that equals 1/8 teaspoon. Thank you for the translation. :)
At times, Ted's instructions are vague, that's why there are always so many posts with so many questions.
Yes, many companies sell HA in capsule forms, and if you look at the ingredients, they add a lot of other product into the mix. So my other question is, which company selling the HA capsules, is the best one to buy from, other than from Purity Products, since they don't have a good reputation with ones credit card.
I have been doing my homework and there seems to be different sources for this HA. According to Consumer Guide to Oral Hyaluronic Acid Supplements: http://www.prweb.com/releases/hyaluronic/hyalogic/prweb492817.htm
quote: Q. Are HA supplements, which contain glucosamine and chondroitin, derived from shellfish?
A. No. HA supplements are derived from natural sources such as rooster comb, or chicken sternum cartilage, or synthetically made from a vegetarian source by fermentation of corn syrup. The latter is a purer source, while the others provide additional collagen, which is also beneficial.
Given that there are 3 sources that HA is derived from, and that Consumers Guide states that the fermented corn syrup is best, which is the one that Ted refers to as the one given to horses?
And given that Purebarn sells bovine and vegan, and Ted is not clear as to which one he buys from them, hence the reason for so much confusion. I look forward to your reply. Thank you.
(Los Angeles, CA)
12/22/2014
Hello,
I ordered Ultimate H.A. Formula from Purity Products for the first time about 3 years ago. Here's the link to the exact product. We only order 1 bottle at a time (the top choice), not the "Super Saver" or "Buy 4 Get 1 Free" option. It's very pricey for sure. I don't use it, but my husband still uses it regularly and finds it helpful when used in conjunction with other supplements like Fish Oil, Magnesium and more. We have never have any issues with this company.
(Canada)
12/23/2014
Hi Jeanne,
Thank you for trying to help, but I just don't trust that company after reading all the negatives about them.
It puzzles me why, if Purity Products HA is so good, why your hubby still needs to use it. In Ted's original post, he stated that the brand he uses actually "CURES" degenerative discs and joint problems.
Perhaps your husband didn't take the 500mg of HA per day like Ted recommended? On the back of the bottle, look at the mg of the HA only, not the combined total of all the ingredients.
That's why I was hoping to find and buy the exact same HA that Ted way using bcos it's much cheaper doing it his way.
(Toronto, Canada)
10/17/2015
Dear Bill,
I came across Ted's remedy for DDD.
I went to Purebulk's website to order Hyaluronic Acid powder, so I found that they have three types of HA: Bovine, Vegan, and Vegan wheat-free.
As I don't know what the difference is between them, I asked the sales guy he said that the most popular one is the Bovine one, so I ordered this one. I received the shipment and I started taking the remedy yesterday.
My question is what is the difference between long and medium chain, and what about the weight difference between the bovine and the vegan and which one should I use for Ted's Remedy?
I read somewhere that the bovine molecule does not get absorbed properly by the intestine as it is too long, is this statement correct?
Thank you all for the trying to help people, this is wonderful!
Peace, Bob
General Feedback
This Book I read when I am sitting on the John.
"How to Live 100 years Without Growing Old"..Back cover. What HA does. Holds water in the body,..acts as a lubricant in the heart valves..,Is the spongy shock absorber at the end of the bones..,holds most of the moisture in the skin.., makes up 80% of the human eye,.. provides a barrier against the spread of infection.. helps to erase fine facial aging lines and wrinkles.(plastic surgery in a bottle)...can produce scarless wound healing...has antioxidant properties....detoxifies the body...provides form and shape to the body...
author of this book Bill Sardi..Please Please.. do not push your bodies. we only have one body.. be good to it.. All these changes can not happen overnight (Rome Was not built In A Day) Take a normal,or a little more than normal supply of the HA..
Do not shock your system.. get a good quality HA.. do not waist you money on JUNK pills
I Care
Alfred
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
07/19/2010
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Hi Everyone, I just wanted to write about hyaluronic acid. I know that Alfred had a specific recommendation of which I ordered online and went through 4 bottles. When I ran out I was on holiday so I went to the health food store and found another brand and thought I'd give it a try. Well, it was fantastic! I had really good results with it and might venture to say even better than the recommended one. The brand I found is Source Naturals and the product is called Hyaluronic Joint Complex (with Glucosamine, Chondroitin and MSM). In addition it has collagen. Then, when I went to find it again, I could not! So, I decided to give another a try. This time it was the same company, Source Naturals but instead it was their Skin Eternal Hyaluronic Acid and still it worked quite well. The first one though was better for my needs which is hip pain. Now, the bonus- the first one was only $15 and the second I found on sale for $10! That's way less than Alfred's recommended. Here's to health, Lisa
(Sf)
09/08/2020
(In The Valley, Ca)
07/20/2010
Lisa,
In checking on-line to try and find the Source Naturals brand that you recommended, I found that most people complained of the size of the pills. Some said that they returned them and a few said they just couldn't take them. Of those that could get them down, they seemed pretty happy with the results. What's your feeling on the size of the pills?
Thanks, Kay
(Houston, Texas)
07/20/2010
Hi Lisa, I am following your results with the hyaluronic acid and am glad to hear another brand not as expensive is working just as well. My question is can you up date on any new developments or if not any can you please restate how hyaluronic acid has been helping you. Thanks so much.
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
07/20/2010
Hi PR and Kay, To answer your questions: The Source Natural pills are two different sizes. The joint complex pills are quite large although I didn't give it much thought until you posed that question. The way I have always taken pills though makes it easy I think. Since you usually have to take supplements with food, I chew a mouthful of food well and then when I'm ready to swallow, I put in a pill and it goes right down with the food. At any rate, that works for me. Now, the Skin Eternal formula of theirs- the pills are considerably smaller. Both have the same amount of hyaluronic acid in them but the Joint complex has considerably more ingredients. The reason I bought the skin formula was because I knew this company made a superior product since I had excellent results with the Joint complex and they also had an equal amount of HA. I bought them but as soon as I found the Joint complex again I grabbed them. I also noticed that the Joint complex sells out fast! So, obviously others notice their effectiveness.
As for my results that I notice, my skin is very soft and supple, my joints feel lubricated, wrinkles are almost non-existent on my neck and face. And at 53, that's a bonus! That being said, I have to honestly say that a lot of that may be due to my diet changes which are lots of raw veggies and a green smoothie daily. The biggest reason I wanted to try the HA though was to feel a difference in my hip joints because that has been an on-going search for several years at this point. After reading Ted's explanation about HA and what it does for the body I tried Alfred's HA recommendation. Definitely noticed a difference immediately but after the initial change, didn't notice anything more. Also, they were quite expensive. THEN, I tried this company's Joint complex and Wow! Big difference. Just what I have been searching for! It really is nice to be out of pain. Hope this info helps. Lisa
(Houston, Texas)
07/20/2010
Thanks Lisa, for your reply. It was helpful.
(New York)
07/21/2010
Hi Lisa, I'm about to finish my supply of the "preferred" brand of HA and was delighted to read your update. Could you let me know how many milligrams you take each day (of the new brand)? Also, are the pills any larger than the ones that Alfred recommended? I feel that the HA is helping with general stiffness but have not noticed the other effects. Perhaps I need to take a larger dose. Thanks so much. I hope you are enjoying your summer. Lee
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
07/21/2010
Hi Lee, I am happy to update! First off, I would like to say that this morning, after 2 days back on the Hyaluronic Joint Complex, I woke up completely able to walk without any catching in my hips! It feels miraculous. Especially after 5 years of pain. . . I am not sure what kind of effects you are after but that was exactly what I have been in search of. My diet change took care of many things but did not make any difference in my hip challenges. So, in light of this, I would have to say this formula is the answer over the Skin Eternal formula that this company offers, though they both have the same amount of HA in them. Two tablets have 100mg of HA, 600mg of Type II collagen, 750mg of glucosamine, 600mg of chondroitin and 400mg of MSM. It works for me! For myself, I have found that 3 tablets with my lunch and 3 with dinner work. I am going to stay with this for a couple of days and then cut back and see if my results remain the same. As for the size, the joint complex are large but I wrote how I take them in my last post which poses no problem for me. I think also that it is important to always remember the principle of uniqueness! This formula really works for me and I really gave the other one a fair shake- 4 bottles. I remember too that Deirdre had a negative reaction with the other one due to what she believes was from the inositol. This formula does not include that. For those who are sensitive to that, this may be the answer. We all have to find what works for our unique body. I hope this info helps Lee. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer them. Lisa
(Bangkok, Thailand)
07/21/2010
Lisa Congratulations. . No more joint pain after 5 years. . You now take 300mg per day. 3. . 50mg tabs per meal ( two meals). . I am very happy for you. . Just one thing when you talked about $15.00 price with Source Natural that was for a 15 day supply (not 30 day supply) Continue your climb for better health. My best. . Alfred
(Princeton, N J)
07/23/2010
★★★★★
Hi Lisa,
I just read your post on HA and had to comment. I too have been taking Source Natural's HA, in both the kinds you mention, the Joint Complex and the Skin Eternal formula. I think I wrote a post last month(?) about this. I started HA because of knee pain due to some over-enthusiasm at the gym. Within a few days my pain had disappeared and the bonus was that my skin looked and felt so smooth and I seemed to have new energy. I became an instant believer in the positive effects of HA and I can't thank earth clinic enough for all the info they allow to flow through. And I also would like to take this opportunity to thank Alfred for his original post about HA. I went to Whole Food to buy the brand he mentioned but they did not have it. Instead, I was led to Source Natural and was told that it was equally good. Since then, I'm on my second bottle (I take two a day, one in the AM and one in the PM) and along with a teaspoon of turmeric mixed with raw honey, black pepper and coconut oil washed down with a glass of warm water first thing in the morning, my knees have given me no trouble at all. Like you, I too have become a convert to green smoothies ( I try to have a green smoothie at least for one meal every day) and the difference is amazing: I have tons of energy, sleep like a log, and best of all, I have begun to lose weight!
(Bangkok, Thailand)
07/25/2010
Yes, We are learning about HA- that's why Earth Clinic is a Fantastic website. We learn from trial and error from You special people out there with challenges. . Alfred did not have too much hurting him, so he pussy footed around with 100mg of HA BUT a lot of YOU are hurting BIG Time. . So Lisa was the smart one. . She Bit the BULLET. . Took 300mg with two meals. . That HA took care of her pain she had for 5 years. My concern is YOU do what is best for you. . What ever company pill you now have. . And nothing seems to be happening. . Double or triple your daily dose BUT not more than 300mg per day. Then see what happens. . For the best quality HA- it's your choice who you will purchase from. The cost will be similar. . About $1. 00 per 100mg. . Both makers pills are good and maybe more out there we do not know about. If you have something broken, or something hurts real bad. . " Take the Lisa challenge. ". Go for 300mg per day. Then after your hurt is gone and joint repaired. . Go back to 200mg or what ever is needed. . Health #1. . Not his or hers or mine or yours. Thanks for your time. Alfred
(New York)
07/26/2010
Hi Alfred, I could not agree more. EC is the only place that I know of where we can read about the personal experiences of the many generous contributors and then draw our own conclusions. I am always eager to read the updates that people like you so kindly provide. Thank you so much - and a huge thank you to EC. Lee
(Mcminnville, Oregon, Usa)
07/28/2010
Hi Ted, I am new to this site and I am wondering about taking Hyaluronic acid for Degenerative Disc Disease. My husband takes pain medication daily(2-3 500 mg percoset) and I am wondering if anyone has experienced any side effects by taking the HA in addition to pain medication. He desperately wants to find a solution to getting away from taking pain medication, and from everything I've been reading about HA it sounds like this may be the solution he's been searching for.
General Feedback
I was curious if anyone else has had the success that Alfred has had with HA and if they would share their story? Also, is anyone having sucess with another brand? Is there anything else you are using in combo with the HA?
(Banngkok, Thailand)
05/20/2010
Good Day Fitanz.. I feel the reason the pill I am taking is working so well is that the HA is mixed with other stuff, to make it easy for the body to absorb. I found out what the other is in the pill from PP and sent it to Earth Clinic.
Also I think 100mg in one pill is too much.. I would rather see it in 2 or 3 pills for better absorption. Stay well.
I Care
Alfred
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
05/21/2010
Hi Fltanz,
I just wanted to say that I have been taking the brand that Alfred recommended. At first I only ordered one bottle, cautious in case I had no results. In 2 days I definitely noticed a marked difference in my joints- as if they were well-lubricated. Also, my skin began to soften even more. I say even more because I have been about 80% raw since Oct '09 and have been green juicing and now green smoothies daily which rejuvenated my skin and health!
Now with the HA all skin damage on my right arm from the sun in Hawaii 4 years ago is gone! Honestly, my arm looked like it was from a 90 year old and I'm only 53- scary!
No significant changes in my hair as of yet but, I will post if I see them. That would be fantastic if that changed! Anyway, since I could clearly see results immediately, I ordered 3 more bottles and am taking it daily.
Hope this helps you, Lisa
(New York, New York)
05/22/2010
Okay - that does it for me! I just ordered the "special" brand. It sounds awesome. I'm a huge walker and love the idea of no joint pain - not to mention all of the other side effects. Will keep you posted! Thanks for all of the info - as always. Lee
(Princeton, N J)
05/24/2010
Hi Lisa,
I know that product names are discouraged at EC (rightly so, I might add) but I was curious to know which HA product Alfred had recommended, since I would like to buy it too. Would EC permit you to write it? Thanks!
EC: Hi Lisa, you can find the brand name in Alfred's post on our Supplement Favorites page here: https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/favorites.html#ALFRED
(Lutherville, Md, Usa)
10/10/2010
I've a question for Ted about the use of HA. My teenage son hurt his knee while playing sports and tore his cartilage about 9 months ago. He's taking comfrey tea and silica from horse radish for a month or so, but it is not helping too much. I am wondering if HA could help his torn cartilage. I woud appreciate if you could respond to my inquiry. Thanks.
Hair Loss
★★☆☆☆
Hi Alfred - How long was it before your bald patches were filled up with new hair? I've been taking 3 x 50mg Hyaluronic Acid tablets for the past 6 days, I've not seen any improvement apart from smooth facial skin. Please help me? I'm fast losing my hair. Thanks Kate.
(Sydney, Nsw)
04/06/2012
Hi, I don't know if anybody has answered your question yet, but all vitamins take at least 3 months before you see or notice any change. So just keep taking it.
(Maidenhead, Uk)
09/26/2012
★★★★★
Rachn - I have managed to regrow new hair around my bald patches by first of all going on an anti-candida diet for 6 weeks, after which I slowly introduced normal foods in to my diet. I have also been on a high iron diet which has further helped my hair growth. You are absolutely right, my tablets have taken 3 months to take effect.
High Vs Low Molecular Weight
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I have been studying hyaluronic acid on web site (complementary prescriptions) the low molecular weight HA is for skin, the HIGH molecular weight is to consume. Low molecular weight will do harm it can trigger pro-inflammatory, and cause cancer to metastasis (only for skin)
Our body needs HIGH molecular weight as we age we don't produce as much. This is important. That is why I was searching for answer.(someone on here did ask the cancer question). I love earth clinic it has helped me so much. Sherry
Hyaluronic Acid Lozenges
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For what it's worth, my MD recommended the Hyaluronic Acid lozenges because the pills mostly get destroyed by stomach acids.
The percentage of absorbtion with the lozenges is nearly 100%. You it place under your tongue until it desolves completely. You are not suppossed to swallow until it desolves, and you can't eat or drink anything for about 25 minutes.
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
I used the Hyaluronic Acid but broke out in large cysts on my face and itching. I had trouble with cystic acne most of my life. That may be why.
Is there such a thing as "organic H.A." since I buy cage free and no hormones or antibiotics in my chickens to eat. If there is, can someone help me find this supplement. I have the worst osteoarthritis. Thank you in advance.
Mary
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
I'm concerned about the cancer implications of using high dose Hyaluronic acid, as wikipedia indicates that it contributes to cancer metastasis (spreading). Can someone speak to this very serious issue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyaluronan
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
I have also bought the Ultimate HA and found with just one pill it makes me as someone else has said "overwhelmingly tired". It's strange. There are other ingredients besides the HA so I'm not sure what is making me so tired. Does anyone have anyone ideas? Thank you! Leslie
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
Hi
Alfred has won me over with the positive results he's had with Hyaluronic Acid, so a few days ago I purchased a bottle and started taking it. I've been taking 150mgs but find that an overwhelming tiredness comes over me and I do not have the energy to do anything. As the day goes on and I move further away from taking the HA my energy levels start to come back. I do feel that I've wasted my money because the HA was expensive and from a very good source. As far as I'm aware, the HA I purchased is animal sourced, would I fare better with a plant or fish based product?
I do find that I also feel overwhelmingly tired when I ingest flaxseed or chia seed.
Best wishes
BERYL
(Bangkok, Thailand)
08/07/2010
Beryl.. Thanks for the confidence.. Now to get u on track. Take ACV Apple cider vinegar for two weeks.. Get your system cleaned out.. Then try the HA but start small.. Your pills are 50mg each.. Take one 50mg pill a day for a week.. Then two etc and see what happens.. I think to start with 150mg too big a load on the system.. Give your body time. Stay well my friend, Alfred
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
I tried HA Joint Formula. Seldom have I had anything so devestating happen that is going on now. I took it two days and my ankles ached and swelled. I was taking something else new so I quit both. The swelling went down so I tried the HA alone. Same thing happened. I quit and swelling went down again. What possessed me to try it a third time, I'll never know, but I did. Ankles ached and swelled, I quit, but this time the swelling didn't go away. It got worse. My legs swelled and then my belly swelled. In three days I looked like I was 6 months pregnant and felt like I was carrying around a 20 lb watermelon and was hard as a rock. Then I developed a rash that was lumps in rows and felt like ropes. These were skin colored. Three days later I noticed I had a teet like bump (like teets on a dog or cat) and next day I had two more. A few days later I had deep red smooth rash where the skin was clear. I used ACV and that red went away in a day. All this from navel down. ACV helped get rid of the bumps somewhat but what is left feels hard. I got psoriasis on my elbow. I wake up in the morning with matter in the corners of my eyes and crust on lids and eyes are bloodshot. Eyewash helps, but eating sage on bread helps the most.
When my legs started getting badly swollen, I was ready to do anything. I quit taking every nutrient and stopped eating and drank nothing but water, a little juice, green tea and cup of coffee. It took two days for the swelling to go down enough to get compression socks on. The belly softened up but is still swollen. I have water pills but I'm allergic to them. They make my ankles swell and blood pressure go up. I'm taking black radish and parsley and now the leg swelling goes down at night, but I haven't seen my ankle bones in months. The swelling gets worse after I get up and after awhile have a hard time walking because of the pressure, and have no stength to get up a step.
This has been going on since mid-March. Before I took HA I felt great, had lost a little weight and had bought a polka CD and danced around to get exercise. I'm not one to go to doctors. Every time I go to one I end up worse off. Now I'm wishing I had. (at least an allergist) I think it's too late for an allergist now.
We have an annual health fair and you can get a pretty comprehensive blood test. (35 things checked) I've been going over 35 years and seldom have anything out of whack. This year - 7 things and 3 more one point over or under baseline. 2 tests point to heart, liver or kidneys. My cholesterol is perfect. Uric acid is high but I don't have arthritic pains or gout.
My blood pressure is/was high. I take L-arginine and hawthorn and ACV for that and most times it's close, or is normal. Six years ago I went to a doc that put me on BP med that raised by blood sugar and almost put me in a wheel chair because of back, hip and leg pain. Now I'm diabetic and as for BP, drugist says they've about run out of options.
My son takes medicinal marijuana for back pain. A friend of his gave me some salve for the rash his wife had and didn't use up. That seems to be helping and a side effect is, it lowers my blood sugar. It's always high in the morning even when I took medication. I do my best to keep it under control with nutrients, herbs and diet. I had it under perfect control with diet only before I was given the BP med that raised it. It's high in the morning but with this marijuana salve it's lower (normal) than I've seen in years. It got rid of the psoriasis on my elbow. I only got 1/2 gram. I'm not a marijuna person. Wouldn't smoke it, but I'm ready to find a dr that will prescribe the salve.
This HA has something in it made from olives that's supposed to "trigger" the HA and make it absorb better and faster. Boy, does it ever. This belly weight is not like fat and not like water bloat. I do a little dry brushing to get the lymph moving. I have a dutch door and I lean on that and sort of walk in place and do mild squats for exercise. Muscle tone in belly is gone.
Does anyone have any ideas? Sorry this post is so long.
(Bangkok, Thailand)
07/06/2010
Judy, I am stunned what is happening to you. We are born with a lot of HA in our system. As we get older we lose much of it. Your side effects are many. Did you overdose on the HA? How many mm was the pill? I know pill not from PP. Their stuff is well balanced. That's the only thing I can figure. Did you give the pill the water test? How long did it take pill to dissolve? If longer than 20 min the pill was old. Judy, please send note to Ted. He is an amazing person. He will figure it out.
I Care,
Alfred
(The Beach, Canada)
07/07/2010
Alfred, I would like to start taking HA, my health food store carries one at 150mg. Is this too much? You said you take 100mg three times a day. Should I take 150mg twice a day. And for a much sillier question- Will I grow a bunch of hair in places I don't want-face and arms. Thanks, Tina
(Bangkok, Thailand)
07/08/2010
Sara.. You live in a Great Country.. Canada. I spent some time in Edmonton..
I guess I was not clear I take 100mg of HA..= 3 pills.. When I take 3 pills from pp it = 100mg.. I am now taking 4 pills = 133mg.. You can take up to 300mg per day according to the book.. "How to live to 100 without growing old" meaning you will be 100yrs old but Not look 100yrs old.. But my opinion. I think smaller doses would be better absorbed.. Like 50mg per time x 4 or 5 or 6.. Get absorbed better... I worry about Health food store pills.. My daughter is 58, knew the people, she said they know their business.. Took pills for 3 weeks nothing happened.. I asked her to give it the water test.. The pill did not dissolve.. If you trust the people.. Buy small quantities.
I think as far as the hair thing.. My hair is growing where it was. On my head and arms. No new places.. Please do not worry about that. Rome was not built in a Day.. You will not look younger overnight.. But the HA stuff is good. Has a list of GOOD things it will do for you.. Health worth more than money.. Take one day at a time.. Life will be good to you
I Care,
Alfred
(Denver, Co, Usa)
07/07/2010
Alfred, Thanks for answering. Yes it was PP, if we're talking about the same PP. All I can say is it was in capsule form, ad was on the radio, one bottle free and two more charged. I did not do water test. I think I did three total a day. I did whatever the directions said for two days each time. I forgot to add in original post, I'm very sensitive. When I was tested for allergies many years ago I was allergic to 40 percent. I'm sure hundreds of people could take this without a problem, otherwise I'd have sent form to the FDA. I seldom have a problem with nutrients and when I do it's very minor. I think I got caught up in their talk about how it helps get rid of wrinkles or I'd have left it alone after the first try. Serves me right to be that vain. I'm 69. Can't expect to look 55. Would be nice though.
I will contact Ted. Thank you.
(Bangkok, Thailand)
07/08/2010
Judy.. You sound like one sweet person.. Only 69.. Just a kid.. BUT with the HA wrinkle stuff u can buy in the store.. It will dissolve your wrinkles (I call them hinges.) from smiling too much.. But seriously.. New stuff out in the market, that will get rid of those hinges. When you say 55.. In Thailand 5 means HA. If 555.. It would be HA HA HA. Now you know Thai.
I know you will contact Ted.. Please give him complete description of what is happening to your system (not Just HA stuff) but everything.. YOU WILL be amazed How he can clear your challenges UP.
Stay well...
I Care,
Alfred
(Oc, Calif)
10/08/2015
To Judy from Colorado:
What an interesting post!
Your results sound as if you've clearly had an allergic reaction to an ingredient contained in the HA (to be precise). You've stated that your allergic to your 'water pills'..(you probably have allergies to many things). Recommendation is to see an allergist, and get tested for the many things you seem to be allergic to. Sometimes a person will be highly sensitive to chemicals, foods, ingredients, plants, even herbs, and may exhibit signs of allergies. These can be confused with an 'allergic' reaction.
A severe allergy, however, is life threatening, so it's advisable to not try taking the product that caused any significant swelling or discomfort again). Do yourself a favor & see a an MD. Eat well, and most importantly, exercise!
(California)
07/09/2021
I started using CeraVe Lotion with HA on my legs to combat dryness. Both my feet and ankles swelled up. I stopped using it to test if it was the lotion as it was the only new thing I had added at the time and it got better. Tried it again, it got worse again. Guess HA isn't for everyone. I didn't even put it on my feet...just my legs. Seems to take a long time to completely go away too.
(Virginia USA)
05/06/2022
Hello,
This caught my "eye" (no pun intended):
" ...with matter in the corners of my eyes and crust on lids and eyes are bloodshot."
I am currently ridding my body of excess calcium. One thing that causes this that no one knows about is EMF's which have an effect on the voltage gated calcium channels causing huge amounts of calcium to be gated into the cell and this is NOT good.
Anyway there are ways to rid oneself of this calcium, and when it leaves the cell, it ends up in the interstitium and from there the elimination pathways. One such pathway out of the cranium is the eyes, and calcium will feel like sand in the eye and can scratch the cornea.
This sounds like what you have experienced. Don't blame the HA, but the HA could be detoxing or accelerating a detox.
To help bind the calcium and usher it out of the body, also look at Borax, DMSO, ionic magnesium, EDTA. Some of these can be taken both internally and externally.
ALL of it takes time.
The calcium can move around and when encountered by nerve cells, can hurt. Hardening of every darn ole thing is not good, so be patient and reduce the calcium load.
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
★★★☆☆
BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I've been taking HA for almost a month now for my knee pain. It helped the pain but I developed a small rash on my back (a common side effect) and my eyes got very itchy. I started with three pills as Alfred had suggested and now I cut it down to just one daily as a maintenance dosage. There is still a faint trace of skin rash in that small area, but I traded it off with my pain. There is a bonus; my skin as a whole is not as dry (more than 20% better) and the color of my nails has improved too.
I am not challenging Alfred's suggestion, I am saying we are all different individually. So test out the dose to see what suits you best!
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
★☆☆☆☆
WARNING!
I was very excited to try the Hyaluronic Acid product that Alfred has been talking about (thanks, Alfred) and started it about 10 days ago. Unfortunately, this product is not for me. I had to stop taking it after a week due to severe side effects from just 1 capsule a day! I can't imagine what taking the recommended 3 pills a day would do.
This product (the Ultimate H.A. from P. Products) acts like a sedative in my body. I don't know if it is the Hyaluronic Acid or another ingredient in the capsule, but 30 minutes after taking 1 capsule, I felt a pressure just above my forehead and then the intense urge to sleep set in. I made 2 driving mistakes the first day I took it, I was so out of it. Luckily no accident, only a very close call.
Not only did I feel totally exhausted, I also looked tired. People kept asking me if I was okay, did I just wake up, I didn't look right, etc. etc.. I also had extremely weird and disturbing dreams when I took this product. To me that's usually a loud and clear message that my body doesn't like a supplement! At any rate, I kept up the HA (just 1 pill/day) for 7 days, hoping that the side effects would abate. They didn't, not a bit...
I might try another brand of Hyaluronic Acid in the future to see if the same thing happens. Incidentally, I have a few other friends testing the same product (all taking 3 capsules a day) and none are experiencing the exhaustion. The only common side effect is the vivid, weird dreams.
Just be careful if you are trying out this product for the first time. Chances are you'll be fine, but if you feel tired all of a sudden, be careful on the road!!
(Bangkok, Thailand)
06/06/2010
To Val and Deirdre:
No dreams BUT Very tired.. did not think too much about being tired during the day.. Figured I was getting along in years & that is part of getting older.
Deirdre.. THANKS for waking me up. Today I will stop. taking HA and see IF I am not tired anymore.. I feel like sh-- ALL day just dead..Night time cannot sleep until 3 am..The HA has helped me a lot. Repaired my bones. New hair growth on my head, face almost clean of barnicles ,hair turning slowly back to black color from white. Wrinkles disappearing.. BUT to walk around all day as a Zombe. Tired, dead feeling.. It would be nice to be alive again. I will get back to you after a week or so.
I care
Alfred
(Earth Clinic)
06/06/2010
I may have figured out the ingredient causing extreme fatigue in the Ultimate H.A. formula: inositol.
Inositol side effects include:
tiredness
nausea
headache
dizziness
diarrhea
hives
itching
wheezing
skin rash
gas
can induce contractions in pregnant women
causes a deficiency of magnesium and potassium
Mega doses - hamper the absorption of iron, calcium and zinc.
Mega doses - can cause kidney diseases like kidney stones, etc.
(Long Beach, Ca)
06/07/2010
I don't have any side effects but what would you consider mega doses? I take 3 per day (Alfred's brand)AM, Afternoon PM and PM.
(Bangkok, Thailand)
06/08/2010
Good day Bev from sunny California,
My reading on HA tells me 300mg a day max.. But Ted uses liquid to heal a specific area.. When he says caps .. each cap about 25mg so 8 caps = 200 and 12 caps = 300 same.. I never figured it out. But Ted can give you a better answer.. Ted is one Amazing person..NO doctors will tell you what Ted tells you. He does a lot of research.. But he is one busy guy.
I Care
Alfred
(New York, Usa)
06/10/2010
I'm confused. Alfred, have you been feeling exhausted all during your use of ha, or did it just start? So many of us have been reading your posts with enthusiasm and I, for one, ordered the brand that you are using. So far, I'm feeling fine but am concerned about the potential exhaustion. Could you clarify when this started happening to you? Thank you for all of your insights. Lee
(Bangkok, Thailand)
06/11/2010
It's been one week.. stopped Taking P. Ultimate HA..I thought easy solution.. Just stop taking Ultimate.. Got idea because Deirdre got bad reaction.. I thought maybe that was why I was tired during the day.
NOT TRUE..NOT TRUE.. In fact after giving up P. U.HA. am hurting.. my knees, both knees hurt, My being tired has NOTHING TO DO WITH the HA.. Its lack of exercise. My age must have something to do with it...I have a very good Vitamin from the same company that my wife was using. Perfect multi Super Greens. I took for 2 days now..
Amazing how good I am feeling. when my wife complains ,she does not feel good.. she is only 49 yrs old. I ask her. Did you take your vitamin.?. She always say.. I forgot. so with the vitamin and exercise.. My energy I know will return.
Thanks for your caring.
Alfred
(Sacramento, Ca)
06/11/2010
Hi Alfred -
Sooo happy you figured out what you needed! Here is to exercise - bodies were built to move and they love it!
For the record, I started off with a lower quality brand HA several weeks ago and did not see too much improvement. I started the Ultimate HA about a week ago, in addition to oil pulling with sesame oil, and I feel Fabulous!! Much less aching of muscles and joints, sleep like a baby, skin improving, and mind is clear and joyous! It could be HA or OP, but I sense that it is both and what a FINE combination!
Keep well, Sweet Alfred!
(Bangkok, Thai)
06/12/2010
Lee, I did not answer your questions properly.. My being tired has nothing to do with side effects of HA..But When Deirdre had a tired reaction, I was looking for an easy way out. Wishful thinking. Playing long shot. My being tired started when I left California, moved to Thailand and retired.. worked ever since I was 13..Mind does not stop working, planning, its still active.The tireness came from boredom, nothing to do, take it easy.. That not my cup of tea..Soo instead of sitting around I help people and am starting a new business and teaching other people to do the same.. my life is getting back together.. I am keeping it busy.
By me stopping taking the HA for one week, its amazing. I now have pain here and there.. Knees hurting bad. But in a week they will be new again.Please do not worry about the HA.. Only good will happen to you as you go into the future taking HA
I Care
Alfred
(Bristol, Tn)
10/24/2010
Dierdre, did you try any other brands of HA and if so, what results did you have? I have sleep problems and now I tempted to use the PP brand HA and perhaps it will put me to sleep! Plus the excellent results some people are having are appealing.
(Earth Clinic, Atlanta)
10/24/2010
Hi Mynmimi,
No, I haven't tried another brand of HA yet. My husband has been taking the PP brand for many months now and loves it. Next time we need to re-order, I want to try the brand that Lisa from Thousand Oaks had recommended at some point last summer since it is considerably cheaper. Sorry, I don't remember the brand so will have to hunt for it on the HA page. Yes, if you want to sleep, try a supplement that contains inositol! You might also want to try homemade milk kefir with its high tryptophan levels. That also zonked me out (see my recent feedback on the subject). Please let us know how it goes with the HA!
Best,
Deirdre
(Virginia USA)
05/06/2022
Detoxing can be a u-no-what! Fatigue is part of it, as your body is working very hard to detox. Any supplement that helps to detox can make you feel worse before better. Start out small, and be sure to take binders to help usher toxins out of the body.
Binders: fulvic/humic acid, EDTA many many others. Do a search for effective binders on this site.
Hyaluronic Acid Side Effects
Uh oh, my husband and I have been taking NSI hyaluronic acid and he started having very vivid weird dreams after a week or so almost every night, I have had two of them. I thought it was because we are stressed out about his being out of work for a few months.
Anyway, I just ordered 3 bottles of the brand Alfred recommended and hate that he won't take it if it gives him the weird dreams too.
Neither of us have felt tired though.
Alfred and all who take it - do you have this side effect?
(Southfield, Mi)
06/04/2010
I havent tried the hyaluronic acid, but with the blackstrap molasses I experienced very vivid, weird dreams. I had to stop using it. I dreamed of huge rats in my cake, single leg trying to come through my window, wow, too weird for me. I cut out the bsm. Anybody else experience this? One good thing was my new growth hair was coming out black, and not gray.
(Tampa, Florida)
06/06/2010
The one we are taking has:
BioCell Collagen II® 1000 mg
Hydrolyzed Collagen Type II 600 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate 200 mg
Hyaluronic Acid (HA) 100 mg
Other Ingredients: Kosher gelatin (capsule), rice powder, and magnesium stearate
The one that should arrive Tuesday is Hylastin from PP and has:
Purity's HylastinTM is our next generation H.A. formula designed to dynamically support healthy, supple skin with 100 mg of Hyaluronic Acid per serving, plus other powerful ingredients to supercharge your skin and joints, including super concentrated Ultra-Pure Omega-3 Fish Oil, Pomegranate P40pTM Extract, 5-Loxin®, Folic Acid, Borage Oil, IP-6, and Vitamins E, C and B12.
I really hope this one is better as this is not a great time for us to be wasting money, but if it helps his joint pain it will be worth it. By the way, the one we have been taking hasn't helped us in any way at all.
Val
Joint Pain
★★★★★
Hi All,
I have been using HA for three weeks now. My brand is from Source Naturals and has 100 mg of HA. It also has BioCell collagen, Type II collagen, and Chondroitin Sulfate. I take two tablets every day, morning and night.
I had been nursing a sore knee for two weeks prior to taking HA (result of trying too many new classes at the gym!) and was hoping the HA would help with the lingering pain. Within a week, I could run up and down the stairs as before, without a twinge. I also found that my pores were shrinking, and my face looked and felt smoother. I did have some sleepless nights initially until I figured out that it must be the L-carnitine, which I had also begun taking at the same time. I reduced my dosage of that to one TBSP a day and now I sleep soundly. Till date, I have had no unusual dreams that I can remember any way. For now, I plan to continuing taking HA because I love the results. Thanks EC for having this great forum where one can learn so much to improve one's life.
Tina