Unlocking the Health Secrets of Turpentine: Natural Remedy Powerhouse

Kidney Stones: Add half a pint of spirits of turpentine to one an a half quarts of hot water. Then cloth - an old t-shirt will work - are to be dipped in the solution and wrung out, and applied to the lower abdomen. It will cause the stones to be disentigrated suffiecent for passing.Do it for an hour at a time, for 4 days and then give it a rest for three. Then repeat - untill all the stones have passed.

I find that Turpentine is easier on the stomach if you don't take it first thing in the morning. But I would make sure you take it at least 5 hours after your meal otherwise you may end up getting severely nauseous and vomiting. This happened to me unfortunately.

I checked the Klean Strip version of turpentine and as I recall the ASTM D4236 I labeled on the packaging as well as it being 100% pure (Max VOC 100%). it should be the same as other brands.

I believe the reason white refined sugar is used is to prevent adding nutrients from other healthier types of sugar which feed the protozoans. We dont want to feed them, we want to slay them :-)

YOUR PAIN IS CALLED DETOX PAIN /HERXHIEMER EFFECT.. caused by rapid detoxing what to do...this ....>> cut your amount in half ..if the pain persists then do it 1 day 1 day off till the pain stops then increase dosage to every day...if pain comes back reduce dosage again till the detox pain goes away...then n gradually increase dosage you will be ok...if you have to stop the dosage for a few days..I had the same thing then as the detox progressed and removed the toxins the pain decreased till it vanished

I am new to turp and began by liberally dousing myself with several straight teaspoons rubbed all over. No skin issues with that and noticed some systemic relaxation. I'm wondering about the efficacy of this application for internal benefits as well since it's a solvent like dmso and enters the bloodstream thereby. Any thoughts?

Sierra thanks for message. I have had no problems doing full body liniment use of pure turpentine for 5 days now. I tried ingesting 3 drops in water and got nausea so maybe for me now, the topical use is best. Also I see no need for carrier oil since no reactions, not even skin redness. It makes me feel good and makes my skin feel tingly. I have fibromyalgia and I think it's helping. Going to try ingesting again with carrier at some point.

so continuing....did successfully take 1tsp of my turp/oil mixture in some sugar without nausea or other immediate reaction. I realize now, as bill said, turp is not miscible in water so taking even 3 drops turp in glass of water is like taking 3 drops straight, and in my case caused nausea. I did have fairly strong flu-like detox symptoms lasting thru the next day so feel it was good thing to do and will continue and try castor oil next time I think as well as continue the liniment use. I still wonder why I haven't found anyone ever talk about the value of taking turp into the bloodstream thru the SKIN since it's a solvent. Thanks to everyone for this forum.

As far as my knowledge goes about a Herxheimer effect, there's no obligation to experience such severe side effects of any form of remedy. Certainly not for a longer period of time. If I were in such a condition, I would slow down, lower the dose, and see how it goes. The idea that strong detoxing is good for you, and wanting it to move as fast as possible, in order to get rid of a health issue, may well result in the opposite result of what one wishes for. To me, that's a consumer-lifestyle attitude, and not about the use of common sense.

A human metabolism can only endure a certain level of processing, be it detoxification or any other treatment, and moving into extremes may cause real damage, and exhaustion, creating a weaker immune system. Rigid thinking may lead to rigorous behaviour, as if in a battle.

That's equal to bringing water to the sea, know what I mean? Always choose wisdom over mental concepts, when it's about medicine and healing, each human body is unique.

Hi Enjera! I do believe the homicidal/suicidal feelings were indeed caused by die-off chemicals, as I too, experienced this when taking food-grade DE (diatomaceous earth) to try and rid my body of parasites. I couldn't even tolerate 1/8-1/4 of a tsp when most people start with 1 tsp, at least. However, I didn't prep with any detoxing or diet back then.

Thanks so much for your comment, so I know this may happen again when I try the turpentine. It's on order and I will really start out slow on the turp to try and not feel so horrible. I was more in danger of hurting myself, and having graphic visions of many different ways to do it! It was terrible, and I'm sorry you had similar side effects. It's good to be aware that this kind of thing can happen with any major die-off of parasites/pathogens in the body.

If I am not mistaken, Jennifer Daniels said to drink 32 oz. of water per 60 pounds of body weight PRIOR to taking the turpentine.

Hi Lauri...

Perhaps you should first take some Milk Thistle (450mgs twice a day with meals), Chanca piedra (take the tea form 3 times a day) and ALA (300 mgs twice a day with meals) and perhaps gram doses of Vitamin C (Ascorbate form) which will all help to get rid of the anti-biotic poisons still in your body before you try the turpentine. This triple regimen will certainly help to detox and remove specific poisons, heavy metals and damaging xenobiotics from your body. Then, after about a month, try the turpentine at one teaspoon per daily dose. I would also alkalize your body using the sodium bicarbonate and water protocol twice a day as Ted from Bangkok advises. Anitbiotics can be extremely acidic for the body and that's how they damage the kidneys.

To be honest about it, if it were me, I would just take the turpentine. Among it's major beneficial effects -- apart from killing all forms of pathogens -- is to purify the blood completely. This outcome is also bound to have a beneficial knock on effect which will help to recover both the kidneys and the liver in the long run.

What brand do you use?

There is only one good source - as far as I know ... in the USA and CA: diamondgforestproducts

The other is Windsor Newton

Take a little less when you feel anything wrong .. there is nothing bad about taking less

Hi, I have systemic candida, and I discovered years ago, from a group of independent doctors online, that MSM, (methylsulfonylmethane) a natural and harmless substance, is effective to control candida, and you can eat what you want. Start with a teaspoon a day, of pure MSM powder, and gradually work up to a TBS or two a day. This, (and God) has kept me alive for twenty years. Expect die off symptoms. At the first sign of headache, immediately take a couple ibuprofen. This should stop the headache. If you don't catch it fast enough though, the headache cannot be stopped. I wish you the best of health!

Hi June...The symptoms of dizziness or drowsiness or wooziness are well known when you take turpentine. Turpentine kills all manner of pathogens in the blood and intestines very quickly, including candida. When a large amount of candida is suddenly destroyed by turpentine, then all the poisons from inside the candida(and from other killed pathogens) will suddenly be released into the body. The result is a Herx or die off reaction because of these poisons in the blood which tend to affect the mind. This is what is termed a healing crisis(caused, not by the turpentine, but from the release of poisonous toxins from the killed candida).

From my own recent experience while being involved with a private group trying to cure their young children of autism using turpentine, these die-off or Herx symptoms are commonplace -- wooziness, drowziness, dizziness. When this happens as a reaction, the parents usually always allow at least one day off from the turpentine protocol as a break for the child involved.

I've also been taking turpentine regularly as a preventative and immune booster for over a year now and I can report that I have had no side-effects from taking this dosage -- no dizziness or wooziness. I take it about twice a week -- one teaspoonful with castor oil and molasses (or honey) usually at mealtime. And since I get no die-ff or Herx reaction, this therefore tells me that my intestines and blood are reasonably healthy and fit. If I suddenly did have a side-effect reaction like dizziness after taking turpentine, then I would immediately and reasonably assume that I might be infected with candida, parasites or other pathogens.

Due to my difficult experience with trying to help Asians and Africans as well as people from India and Pakistan with candida problems who cannot afford these nutrients, I have had to go herbal to help them which creates other difficulties. In the Philippines, the average wage is about 150 pesos per day or $3.60 per day. So, for a Filipino who has systemic candida to spend perhaps $16.00 or more on a small bottle of lugols iodine -- this is just not reasonable or possible. Similarly, for an average Filipino to be able to afford organic food is simply not possible or realistic because of the cost. As you can imagine, this has frustrated me somewhat in my efforts to help these people.

As a result of all these problems, I've been trying for some time to find another candida remedy that is easy to take, that kills candida quickly and is relatively cheap and easy to obtain.

And I think that I've found a cheaper nutrient (historically and widely used in the past) that does indeed kill candida rapidly in the intestines, blood and organs plus it does so much more. This substance is known by various synonyms: spirit oil of pines, spirit of gum turpentine or kerosene are some of the names.

There is not alot of research on these fractionated oils as supplemented oils but in the 1899 version of the Merck Manual the following has been recorded as oil of pine's supplemented benefits and are of interest:

gonorrhea

meningitis

lung disease

arthritis

abdominal problems

This list goes on and on.

Odd therefore, that in the 1990 Merck Manual and after more than 100 years of wide successful use, the above description for turpentine was radically changed to describe turpentine as very poisonous.

I guess that turpentine spirit, very much like the broadband pathogen-killing abilities of lugols iodine and hydrgogen peroxide, scared the medical research establishment with its apparently unassailable healing qualities.

Some of the constituents of turpentine:

Benefits of alpha-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Pesticidal
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Diuretic
Antioxidant
Immunostimulant
Anti-inflammatory
Anti-convulsive
Sedative
Anti-stress
Hypoglycaemic
Capable of expelling xenobiotics
Anticholinesterase activity

Benefits of beta-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Acting against osteoclasts
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Pesticidal
Antioxidant
Sedative

Source:http://test.imp.lodz.pl/upload/oficyna/artykuly/pdf/full/--04_09_Mercier.pdf

Oil of pines or turpentine also contains significant amounts d-limonene, cavicol, terpenes, acetic acid and butyric acid. I am not going to descrbe the benefits of these, not enough space, but -- from all the evidence and testimonials that I've read, it appears that turpentine or kerosene kills candida very rapidly in the intestines and in the blood/organs. Other effects -- it cures arthritis because oil of pines also kills mycoplasma and is also anti-cancer. It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory and a safe pain killer. In short, spirit of gum turpentine appears to be strongly anti-candida, anti-cancer, anti-mycoplasma, antibacterial, antifungal, antivirus and anti-parasitic. With the possible exceptions of iodine and hydrogen peroxide I really don't know of any other single nutrient that has these broadband anti-pathogen killing effects. It simply doesn't get better than that. No wonder then that the 1990 Merck Manual decided to trash it -- how could their drugs compete with that!!

You can read all about the evidence and testimonials here:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/11136827/2098715122/name/Turpentine-The_Candida_Cleaner -Dr. Daniels.pdf

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html

http://www.rethinkingcancer.org/resources/magazine-articles/7_9-10/kerosene.php

I must admit that I haven't tried distilled oil of pines yet, due to the difficulties of getting the properly distilled oil, but I fully intend to take it for about four weeks or so (as recommended by Dr Daniels as the ultimate cleanse and blood purifier ) to see and understand its effects. For this reason, I hesitate to actually recommend it here as a cure for candida or anything else yet.

In respect of all the above on the health properties of turpentine or kerosene, I therefore have a request to everyone reading this.

Could you please ask your grandparents -- grandfathers or grandmothers -- whether their parents or granparents ever used oil of pines, turpentine or kerosene as a regular body cleanser or healer of diseases etc.? And could you report anything you find out back here on EC? Turpentine/Kerosene was supplemented widely in America and Europe before the 1900s. I'm really wanting to know dosages and effects on people who have regularly used turpentine or kerosene for healing specific diseases.

I will also be obtaining some turpentine or spirits of gum turpentine(hopefully with a low boiling point of 100 - 150 degrees C) to test out internally on myself soon and will report back its effects, good or bad, when I can.

Many thanks.

RE: KEROSENE CURE To begin with I was born (1948) in a remote little town in the Philippines where tap water and electricity was too expensive. At night we used kerosene lamp, the simplest method we used by using a pepsi bottle with the holed cap for the cotton wick, the used kerosene and mom's home made coconut oil mix was used whenever we kids got cold/cough. Before bedtime, she rubbed on our throat, chest and back, then covered our body with flannel, throat wrapped with hankerchief to keep warm and off to bed.. The next morning or after a couple of mornings.. Cold/cough gone. Until my mom was in her eighties.. she was using this mixture to cure her cold/cough. She never take OTC cough syrups.

Their life style was very simple/close to nature.. Whole life drinking spring water, cooking in clay pots using wood for fire, never used stainless or aluminum pans/ pots, for frying they used an iron wok which is seldom used since cooking oil is expensive. Anothe habit was weekly swim in the sea, planted their own veggies. My parents did not know what is processed/fast food.The different life style between my mom and her sister(she lived in manila most of her life) resulted to breast cancer death while my mom died of traffic accident at the age of 80 with no illness while my father who drunk local coconut wine in his youth died of kidney failure at the age of 84.

I wish I could have a life like my parents which is impossible now that I am living in dubai a place where almost nothing is natural.

Hi,

I need some help. Its my 3rd day trying turpentine *(diamond brand) and sugar for candida / everything that is blocking my health. I cannot tolerate the turpentine ingestion. After ingestion is ok - it's the actual ingesting part that I can't handle (hurts my throat and gagging / can't breathe because of the taste).

I have empty capsules and was hoping to put some brown coconut sugar along with turpentine in them and take it that way. I can add castor oil - but it will have to be in a capsule with the turpentine.

Will this be ok to try to ingest it this way? Is it important that it is white granulated sugar? or can it just be any kind of sugar (I prefer coconut organic raw if I have to eat straight sugar).

Thank you!!

Hi guys. I have been following Dr. Jennifer Daniels turpentine protocol for a couple weeks and getting some amazing and um.. shocking results. I am keen to continue with the treatment however I am concerned about the effect that turpentine may have on friendly bacteria.

Does anybody know if turpentine has a negative impact on gut flora?

So far my internet research is coming up with next to nothing. No tangible evidence being presented either way. I have read that it is important to take probiotics during this treatment. But I'm wondering what's point if I'm wiping them out every time I take turpentine? My gut and I would greatly appreciate any light that anyone can shine on the matter. It seems like this could be a serious drawback of the turpentine cleanse.

Thanks! 😊

Dear Rich,

Please be careful with the topical turpentine. A lady on this forum applied it topically once for parasites and ended up in the emergency room.

More is not always better. A small amount could be fine and a large amount could be toxic (the dose makes the poison.)

Turpentine used internally or externally should only be used in very small amounts and also diluted with a carrier oil, especially if you are new to turpentine.

Sierra

If you have a low or non-functioning immune system then the best thing you can take is colostrum (first milk to calf after birth). Both lyme and candida involve the participation of a wide variety of pathogen species together with a low performing immune system and this is what makes these diseases so difficult to cure.

Colostrum contains antibodies that are passed to the calf. At birth, the calf has no immune system and no digestive system just like human babies. So the antibodies in cow mother's milk are passed directly into the calf -- in other words the mother cow's immunity is passed directly into the calf like immune system blueprints so that it can manufacture its own antibodies. And if the calf does not receive this colostrum within 24 hours it will die.

The same thing happens in humans when you take high grade or natural liquid bovine colostrum. This colostrum will give you protection and immunity against all common diseases that are in our environment such as E. Coli, Shigella, Giardia, C Diff, Candida, H pylori, Staph, Strep, Borrelia etc. Colostrum also contains growth factors that help to heal the intestines, prevent inflammation and pain and also contains substances that help to reduce the permeability of the gut -- thus also curing food allergies including wheat and milk allergies. The colostrum essentially acts to reset, re-train and strengthen the human immune system.

I have recently read a personal testimonial by a guy who had serious candida, gut and allergy issues for many years. He was given two gallons of fresh colostrum for free straight from the mother cow and he drank it all over a short period of time. He completely cured all his problems in just 2 weeks with candida and allergies defeated and gone.

Then there's the story of Immune Milk and Herb Saunders(now deceased) who was a dairy farmer in the US. His customers who came to see him were very sick people who had many and various infectious or autoimmune diseases. Saunders would take a small sample of their blood and inject it into the udders of an expectant mother cow. Whatever diseases these people had -- the cows immune system would manufacture antibodies against it. Then a month later, after the mother cow dropped her calf, farmer Saunders would give this colostrum from the cow to his customer who would be rapidly cured of his or her immune or infectious disease. Saunders was taken to court by the FDA for practicing without a licence but got a hung jury both times. So the FDA doesn't always win...

See this link:

The Universal Oral Vaccine: Immune Milk

So if you know a friendly local organic dairy farmer who does not feed his cows steroids, antibiotics or unnatural feeds, then just negotiate a price for some fresh liquid colostrum. This is by far the best natural form to take.

But if you can't get fresh colostrum from the mother cow then you should buy the powder form. But not just any old cheap colostrum powder -- you must make sure that whatever powdered colostrum you buy has not been processed with chemicals or with excessive heat which would render the colostrum useless. Here is a product that meets these high standards. They also test the efficacy and content both before and after manufacture of their colostrum. This is the liposomal form of colostrum which is highly concentrated and it's not so cheap but it's easy to take and should work reasonably well just like the natural form from the mother cow:

Colostrum Spray

So if you take the turpentine protocol together with colostrum -- the turpentine itself will immediately act to kill all manner of pathogens and remove biofilm(but does not strengthen the immune system directly) while the colostrum will act to enhance and retrain your own immune system to defeat and dispose of all the many common pathogens involved in both Lyme disease and Candida. In other words colostrum should eventually help to give you immunity against many or all the pathogens involved in both candida issues and Lyme Disease.

References:

Colostrum and the Human Immune System

Biofilms can form anywhere in the body, each pathogen has its own area where it colonizes. Researches suggest that oxygenation is a key of biofilms destruction. By my experience, chronic resistance of Protozoas pathogens in the large intestine got better with Pine Gum Turpentine, though it came back after a few days to a week, that suggests that the biofilms were still there.

Though when I took MMS one time only the situation got better and the symptoms were gone. Overview of experiments show that oxygenation proved to dissolve and destruct biofilms. MMS is an oxygen therapy, it has the benefit over Ozone therapy and other Oxygen therapies because of the low voltage. That is promising a lower inner cells tension. In simple words it means that it is harming the anaerobic pathogens but not the body. The hexhimer effect of detox due to biofilms destruction might be tough but it worth it. That's why if using MMS, it's better to start with a low dosage, and even then the results might be seen on a short term and the herxhimer reaction might be quite strong.

M: Thanks for your previous informative post here on E.C., and no thanks for your present knee-jerk non-informative post on Turpentine. I have severe or hyperparasitosis and working on my 2nd quart of Turpentine all with good results, and to be exact I may not be alive today without T.

As for searching for T info, never trust one source. The main sources in the alt med community is Jennifer Daniels and Walter Last. After reading these, the next step is purchasing Pure Gum Spirits Of Turpentine ( which is a distilled product of Pine Trees with the chemical name, as noted from my current source

Hazardous Components (Chemical Name)
3. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Concentration
7785-26-4
(1S)-(-)-.alpha.-Pinene {Bicyclo[3.1.1]hept-2-ene,
2,6,6-trimethyl-, (1S)-}
>70.0 %
8006-64-2
Turpentine {Gumspirits}
<30.0 % ).

According to conventional authorities all about the globe, Turpentine is a hazardous chemical and warned not fit for human consumption, even though it has been and currently is used internally by many people across the planet with very little bad and mostly good effect.

I am about to try the Turp therapy - just ordered a bottle from Georgia. However I wanted to comment specifically on the subject of MMS and parasites.

I have had good success with Borax for candida, and we have done some "cycles" of MMS with the family just for overall health. I am always up for the next level of personal bio-hack.

I found in December that one of my sheep had a tapeworm. Perfect time to test the MMS. (She was very ill and had lost a lot of weight. I was out of town and found out she had the runs for weeks)

I suspected that the MMS would not work alone, so I started the MMS with DMSO, AM and PM.

After 5 days I added Standard process Zymex II (a parasite specific enzyme formula). 3 days later I added a few papaya seeds to the oats. after 3 doses of papaya seeds (PM, AM, PM) I went into the barn to find about 2 feet of tapeworm.

Within 3 days her poops were pretty normal, and she has doubled in size since then.

Her sister started with runny poops about 2 months later. I did the same protocol and she passed the tapeworm exactly the same. Hers was at least 4 feet.

I don't know anything about your ailment- but if I were you- I'd look up the doctor 'Jennifer Daniels' in regards to turpentine...she says take it with sugar. Everyone I've ever read of who has had success has taken it with sugar- because its the SUGAR that the parasites are drawn to to eat and they get the turpentine WITH it and it kills them. They don't come for olive oil. ALL sicknesses are parasites whether or not anyone wants to believe they have parasites- I can tell you right now that everyone in the world has them- to one degree or another.- whether microbes, bacteria or any other name- they are all parasites and parasites love sugar they can't resist it. They smell the turpentine before you even get it past your lips and they steer clear- they're not stupid...but when sugar is taken with it they KNOW its laced with turpentine but they STILL can't resist and it does kill them. These things are what Jennifer Daniels has said in her interviews and pod casts.

VICKY, ORH here, I too am an admirer of Dr. Daniels, and have followed her since she began her transition from an allopathic doctor to an integrative doctor. She learned about natural cures from her patients who were reared by poor farm parents who had to use what was available and passed this knowledge down. My dad would be 106 and he related to me how his family used turpentine, kerosene, sassafras root, honey and such for their ails. You know that they took Dr Daniels medical license for using these products and she is now in Panama. The problem is that her practice is pro-trade as Slave Medical Cures and that is a misnomer, just like the term, Soul Food, is a misnomer. All Southern poor people used the same cures and ate the same food. History tends to get revised over time.

ATS ====ORH====

When I first got copd, I landed in the hospital, the er doctors, didn't have the right medication for me, I found out that it was inflammation in the lungs that caused the whole problem.
Well, I had gotten rid of a lot of inflammation in Skin cancer. So I threw the medication the doctor gave me in the trash. It was horrible stuff. They weakened my heart with it.
Started drinking 1 teaspoon of Kerosene at wee hrs in the morning, 3hrs before or after a meal.

I got rid of all the inflammation in no time. I take a maintenance dose every day for the rest of my life. I still get phlegm that I have to get rid of.

I can tell you for a fact Turpentine works for a tooth abscess. I had a huge blister on side of the gum where the abscess was and so much pain and soreness. I'd take the turpentine and hold it in the mouth directly where the infected tooth was for up until I couldn't stand it any longer snd spit it out. It needs to be undilute 100% pure pine gum spirits of turpentine (Diamond G Forests has the BEST in my opinion).

Also if you can start using chlorine dioxide solution as s mouth was and add w few drops of DMSO right before you're going to use it because DMSO deactivates the Chlorine Dioxide within hours of mixing the two. If you're only using the Turpentine I'd say continue to use it until the infection is gone but shouldn't take long.

You should see some improvement within a few days but I'd use it multiple times. But it's also crucial to ensure there's no food stuck between or in a crack of a tooth. A Waterpik on semi low or higher if it doesn't cause too much pain in your mouth really really helps.

Don't use Klean-Strip. Check your local art supply store to find pure turpentine. It is more expensive but higher quality and taste pretty good with sugar. I use the brand GRUMBACHER. 1 teaspoon turpentine mixed with 1 teaspoon sugar. When taken right before meals, the turpentine is pushed down in to your small intestines by your food. If taken on an empty stomach the turpentine goes straight into your bloodstream which is okay for blood born diseases but does not do much for Candida issues.

I have tried mixing the turp 1:2 with real maple syrup and I find it almost addictive it tastes so good! It doesn't really mix but with vigorous stirring it will form a suspension. There have also been studies showing that maple syrup extract added to pharmaceutical antibiotics enhances their effectiveness so maybe this has other benefits than just flavor when combined with the turpentine.

The more likely alcoholic drink to carry Turpentine would be Gin. During a mission to the Athabascan Indians in Alaska, one of the major signs of my mission success was gaining Trust among the locals. One man's confidence was showing me his Fir-Tree Gin-still as well as his finished product in the Mason Jars.

Pine oil is not the same thing as turpentine. It has been extracted from the pine tree a different way and essential oils are stronger. I would not use pine essential oil internally, except maybe by the drop. People take as much as 1/4 to 1 teaspoon turpentine, but ingesting that much pine essential oil would be dangerous.

~Mama to Many~

You are going through detox symptoms as the critters that are causing the problem are putting up a fight. There are spaces between joints that they accumulate in these areas. Anything that lives has to poo . The amount of infection and food to continue feeding them overwhelms the cleanup crewing idea the body..read protocols on diet that can be causing the problem in the first place.

Dr Hulda Clark mentions that when we kill a worm or larger parasite that they usually have much smaller pathogens inside them and that some have parasites 3 levels deep.

When the first dies, the others come out and then you have to kill those and then more can come out of those and then, you have to kill them the 3rd time, hence the 3 cycles on the zapper. I'm sure this holds true with turpentine too.

I would assume that you would need at least 3 servings to get them all.

It sounds like you already had an infection brewing right on the edge and the turpentine kicked it off. Get your D levels up before doing turpentine, so your immune system can handle it.

You have to be pooping 3x a day to eliminate side effects. Its coming out wherever it can run to escape the turpentine. Get your bowels moving either with natural supplements, enema, fiber or colonics. Also taking some charcoal to absorb toxins daily.

I would not expect them to answer. Turpentine has a warning not to be ingested, so naturally they could not say that.

The pain you experience might be benzene. Try chicory coffee: it will break off the benzene.

Did you by any chance take advil or anything like that before of after taking the turpentine? Because they will have a very violent reaction together.

Hi all, I've been reading all the posts with great interest... and have been trying turpentine treatment to help address alopecia totals (an autoimmune issue), which I have had since around this time last year. Having read about the connection between parasites etc, and being able to relate to many of the symptoms, I thought it would be worth a try.

I was taking just less than 1 tsp in 1 tsp of raw sugar daily for about a week. I had to stop about a week ago as I got a little concerned with the ongoing the multiple bowel movements - even though I have not taken any turps for one week I am still getting them although they have now subsided quite a bit. Is this to be expected?

Chrissi

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this site (and turpentine) and I decided to join because this looks like a good place for valid information regarding turpentine usage. I know that turpentine is xenobiotic and I am on a couple of Rx meds. Does anyone know what the timing/spacing should be?

I have lyme and co-infections and would like to know if anyone is using turpentine for the same reason, and if successes/failures can be shared.

I appreciate any input.

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Like Softa, I too tried the turpentine for extreme arthritis but have seen results I was not expecting. I tried Dr Daniels protocol using the sugar cubes and 1 tsp. of turp. and have had 2 doses. The first on a Fri. and then the following up with the second dose on Tues. My back feels better (but wondering if that isn't due to the enemas). The unexpected result I experienced is that my left knee and right hip are in terrible pain, hurting more than ever. My knee seems to hurt the worst and oddly I didn't have pain in it before I started the protocol. I have also found that by drinking so much water my feet and legs swell up something awful so I did cut back on how much I drink. I keep a quart jar of distilled water with me at all times and drink from it throughout the day (refilling as I go) and my guess is that I am drinking about 3/4 of a gal., which I seem to be able to handle.I am also drinking juices that I make at home with my juicer. I will continue to try for a few more weeks to see if there are any improvements.

I first heard of turpentine being used as med. when I was very young from my grandparents and then again about 8-10 yrs ago from a gentleman in his mid 70's. My children had gotten head lice while in primary school and he told me I should give them a dose because it would get rid of anything. Of course I didn't because I thought it was poisonous. Seems his family used it as he was growing up.

If anyone knows why the pain in my knee and hip have gotten worse I would love to hear or any suggestions regarding the arthritis. I also have considered the oxygen therapy as well. The thought of drinking water that tastes like bleach doesn't appeal to me but if it helps the arthritis that would be worth it.

Mary: You are experiencing "detox reactions" from only two doses of turpentine. Chronic arthritis (pain & inflammation) isn't really a disease in itself, it is a symptom of disease caused by bad diet, toxicity, infection, etc.

Depending on the severity of your case (usually severity coincides w/ age) will determine how bad the "reactions" and how much time it takes to clear the bad stuff.

Here is a link to the detox page for more info https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/detoxification.html

For starters I highly recommend antioxidant nutrition (a deficiency of which causes many types of chronic and inflammatory conditions), Dr Christopher's "Red Clover Combination" herb caps, Epsom Salts/Baking Soda/Borax whole body hot baths, Iodine, and ACV. Detox Foot Spas & Patches are great for eliminating heavy metals and zenobiotics as well as parasites.

In response to your comment on 11/21/16 Michael of New Zealand re the article by Scott Gavura. He states at the out set that he often receives hate mail accusing him of being a Big Pharma Schill. In his article he infers that statin drugs are quite acceptable. We have to be careful of people like him as there are many people who would look to him to be an authority on their health. He doesn't mention the thousands of people who die consuming prescription medications. They were following the advice of medically trained doctors. He, and your regular MD would probably pooh pooh Selenium for cancer, or borax for gout, or MMS for malaria etc etc because despite the numbers of people who have benefitted from these therapies, according to those who will not believe unless there is "scientific proof" they cannot possibly work. And then they write there articles with their hidden agendas and some readers accept it just like that. Anecdotal evidence carries no weight what so ever for them. So please be careful Michael - this is the information age and we owe it to ourselves, and just as importantly to others who may hear our words, to research and to question. Doctors invest so much time and money in their medical education, and it is perfectly understandable that they would come from a place of denial, and seek to condemn without investigation or personal experience that which contradicts and / or threatens what they have learned. I'm one of those who've come to the conclusion that MDs can be extremely useful in diagnosing conditions, and in the setting of bones but when it comes to prescribed medications, research, research and research. The ideal goal is to treat the cause, not the symptoms, and medically trained people are very often not in a position to assist you in this. There's so much out there, and it's places like this that can help you find answers

Good on you Timh. Your suggestion to not trust only one source is an excellent one. I've found it helpful to Google testimonials in regard to the condition in which I'm interested. That's how I've come across Selenium and Borax (Boron) and a number of other gems. It's hearing / reading others experiences ("Ordinary people")which can lead us to the appropriate path.

All the best to each of you. Regards, John.

Hi Carol! I actually ordered turpentine from diamond g forest turpentine and am taking it myself. It is a huuuuge difference in the canned stuff from the hardware store and I would be willing to help you get some

Hi Caladesi...I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.

Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms -- especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.

First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it's advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn't bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I've been on it ever since.

Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body's detox and immune systems.

Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.

Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.

See the full symptom lists here:

http://carriagehousemedicine.com/services/ease-anxiety-depression/

Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.

Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.

Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.

It's also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That's why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.

Other nutrients that should help your mother's heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.

Hi Denise...Supplementing Turpentine has the effect of cleansing the bowels and purifying the blood. I have never read any research where turpentine has ever caused damage to nerves. The neuropathy problem that you mention is usually normally caused by the Hepatitis C virus.

The symptoms you might experience are a wooziness and drowsiness when you take too much turpentine because turpentine also has a sedative effect. Turpentine also can have a laxative effect, but I have only ever experienced a slight loosening of the stools when I took 2 tspns of turpentine in one go(double the normal dose). And if there is any ongoing disease in the blood or bowels, such as Hepatitis C, then you may well get a Herx or die-off reaction as well.

You can also take turpentine baths if you wish. Add one or two small shot glasses of turpentine into the bath and stay in the bath for about 1/2 hour. The iso-penenes in turpentine, the main beneficial ingredients, are also easily absorbed through the skin.

For interests sake, and to allay any fears, medical doctors commonly used and recommended internal teaspoon dosages of turpentine in the past.

Here are some examples of older turpentine usage and dosages:

The Physiomedical Dispensatory 1869 - Turpentine Usage

The US Dispensatory 1918 - Turpentine Properties

British Pharmaceutical Codex -- Turpentine

My own way is to put one teaspoon of honey or molasses in my mouth, then put the turpentine dose (usually one teaspoon for me) in my mouth next. Then I hold it in my mouth and mix it with my saliva and then I swallow this mix and just chase it down with some water.

If you've never taken turpentine like this before, then you should start with just a 1/4 tspn of turps, with increasing drop dosages over about a week until you are taking one teaspoon. If at any time while taking this protocol you have a Herx or die off reaction or if you feel woozy, drowsy or lethargic -- then take a day off the next day and resume, at a lesser dose, thereafter.

Walter Last also seems to prefer taking the turps or kerosene with a teaspoon of castor oil. The castor oil is a useful idea because it also kills candida and beneficially tends to gently accelerate excretion -- thus removing toxins more quickly from the body. Coconut oil or olive oil can also be taken as the carrier with the turps remedy as well.

Recently we took a video instruction on how to take turpentine bath in correct way.

It is in Russian at the moment but we will add English titles soon. Anyway it will give you an idea how the whole procedure looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKWRjSa4WM&feature=youtu.be

Hi Bill, I just want to thank you for your posts. This one is amazing! I am always learning from what you have to pass on. It's also always interesting to see the information which is withheld from the masses to prevent self-help in our healthcare. This is why it is so important to have a forum such as Earth Clinic to get the information out there so we, the people, can make an educated decision regarding our path we would like to pursue for ourselves.

Again, thank you always for your very informative and educational posts! May you be blessed always, Lisa

Hi Bill, I read your comment about kerosine and remembered the cab driver who picked us from the airport last week on our return from India. Noticing our cold and coughs, he related a story of his grandmother, who had come to the US from East Europe: she once cured him of a severe bout of cough by making him drink milk with a few drops of kerosine in it. I listened to this story in disbelief, although I didn't let on, since he was such a dear, polite man. Kerosine, when I was growing in India, was used as a fuel for stoves in the kitchen. In fact, those tragic 'dowry deaths' where North Indian brides are burnt by being set on fire use kerosine! The cab driver, who said he was in his seventies, says he never suffered from such severe cough again. Reading your information now, I am beginning to revise my opinion. Thanks!

Hi Suzy... Much thanks and God Bless you for your speedy response to my request. It seems that there is no end to the benefits of turps and kerosene oils.

Some more info on my meditations on the usefulness of Turps and Kerosene distillates. I'm sure many here would be horrified at me saying or even admitting that these oils are also used as paint thinners and varnish removers.

But that's the whole point isn't it? -- That is one of the biggest benefits of these oils. To illustrate this I'll just tell a true story. I read a magazine article, a long time ago, where a very famous gastro-intestinal surgeon was being interviewed. The interviewer asked all the usual questions -- but I really became interested when the surgeon said outright that, in all his 35 years as a gastro surgeon -- and during all this time -- he admitted that he had never ever seen what he would describe as a healthy pink inner intestines. Instead, he described most of the inner surface of the intestines he had seen "as having a smooth dark grey appearance, as if the villi surfaces had been varnished...". When asked what had caused this dark grey varnished look by the interviewer, the emminent gastro shot back without any hestation at all -- "Unquestionably it was due to excess vegetable oils in the diet."

I've aleady said that Turpentine and Kerosene are used as capable solvents to get rid of and dissolve varnish -- so the benefits of these oils wrt removing the intestine's inner varnish (caused by these chemically processed, oxidized vegetable oils) should be more than clear now. As well, the health benefits for both your intestines and your nutritional pathways arising from this should also be fairly obvious.