Top Natural Remedies for Fibromyalgia

What works immediately to reduce my fibromalygia pain attacks is to eat an apple, fresh or even dried apple slices. The malic acid removes the pain.

Om, we don't have anything similar here. But wouldn't a grain, sitting a while in the closet or in the frig, be considered "aged"?

dear Mmsg (Europe)

Aged white rice is sold here but I am looking for Aged brown long grain rice. The term is " Aged".

Does this clear it?

Namaste, Om

Oh, Om, so "aged" means "stored for some time", right?

Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) ---

Oh my, I thought about to delete the "old" as it is really AGED grains. Sorry about that. There must be suppliers. I am looking into it.

Ordinary rice is good for hot climates. In wet, cold climates, millet is preferable. It can cause an imbalance, causing phlegm. However if the grains are stored for sometime, they are less starchy.

I always check with Ayurveda online when it comes to western designed diets. Allopathic doctors know nothing of nutrition other than what they are told to promote. Dieticians have studied where the faculties are funded by food businesses such as Kraft(y) etc.

Ayurveda and CTM are standing like giants for thousands of years. Image, an ayurvedic vaidya would first try medicine for his patient on himself. Here, most of our doctors would be dead. But lets no go into it.

Namaste, Om

Om, what are "old aged grains"?

Lou (Tyler, Tx)---I wish these doctors took an example from old established medicine systems such as Ayurveda and TCM.

OLD AGED grains are for diabetics but the west forbids it, making food choices difficult.

Totally ignorant of dietary facts which they have not studied, weakening the body instead with removal of a variety of valuable nutrients. It helps to do one's own thing with adequate discrimination.

Namaste, Om

I recently researched anesthesia detox for a friend who is in the nursing home with some type of cognitive decline (dementia or alzheimer's). It was brought on after two surgeries. Everything I came up with was glutathione, which detoxes the liver and and removes the fluoride from the anesthesia.

One of the project leaders at my job kept a box of Hershey's dark chocolate bars in his drawer and ate one every day after lunch. I did the same thing. I still buy them today.

Dear Lou,

I had to smile. I think it tastes just like beer, too! Now I have not had a beer in decades but that is what I think when I have it. My husband says it does NOT taste like beer. :)

However it it does not give me a headache. Sorry it gave one to you.

Mama to Many~

I use coconut capsules for constipation. I have cleared everything and don't seem to have any problems anymore. Also, garlic capsules and tumeric capsules work to help clear this. Eat an apple every night. It's fall and we're eating caramel apples (I know, sugar) but it's one way to eat them and enjoy them a bit. Try Ted's alkalyzing remedy--juice of one lemon or lime add 1/2 tsp. (man) 1/4 tsp. (woman) aluminum-free baking soda and stir until the fizz quits. Add water to make it 1/2 glass. Use a plastic spoon to stir this--don't add any metals to the mix. Drink first thing in the a.m. and last thing in the p.m.

This will probably hand you a huge laugh. The doctors told me to avoid rice with pre-diabetes. I eat cocoa krispies about a couple times a week. They make me go quite regularly. I use lactose-free milk. Not sure if this will work for everyone. I don't know why this would be bad, as they give babies rice cereal first when they begin to eat.

Lactose-free milk is also good for people with prostate problems (you don't have to get up so often in the middle of the night).

I know Chlorella supplements and cilantro will detox some metals. Try looking up a recipe for cilantro pesto. Mine is pretty basic, although I don't remember exact measurements. But it is walnuts, olive oil, cilantro and garlic in the food processor. Just pull those ingredients' measurements out of a recipe with more ingredients. Hope that helps.

I just mixed some ACV and water and stirred in 1/2 tsp. aluminum-free baking soda. It's giving me a bad headache and tastes just like beer. I
HATE beer. Has anyone else noticed this?

You may need to be on borax for 3-4 weeks. If that fails, you can try minocin (not generic minocycline).

Been taking DMSO 1/2 tsp in water at night, 5 drops lugols iodine in water in the morning and 1/4 tsp of borax in a liter of water throughout the day. I really noticed my energy level Go up and I could think better....Kind of like the brain fog has lifted. My joints and muscle stiffness has improved. I still have a hard time sleeping comfortably as it has improved just a little.

Thanks for this - I've had the same problem of the ACV being too strong. It goes very nicely with manuka honey too. I have just begun to use it for the bad mucus I get with fibro & it has helped immediately.

I need to add additional information to this post. Most generic minocycline won't work. Only a few generics work since they are made similar to original minocin. All minocyclines are not made with the same quality. Most are crap.

I would not initially use bromelain when using normal minocin dose since it may increase blood levels 5 or 6 times. It is just something to experiment with especially with crappy minocycline brands. Some people experience herx so could be too much for them.

About 1 1/2 years ago I woke up on my back in bed with my legs extended straight out. I bent my knees and screamed out loud in agony at the pain. I did NOT have any knee pain prior to going to sleep the night before. I could barely walk. Then things got worse. My lower back and upper back had "pockets" of what felt like something bulging under the skin. My son could feel this "pocket of something' when he massaged my legs and back. It was not my imagination.

Then my upper arms hurt horribly. I could not pick up even a coffee cup due to the pain. Then I could not lower myself onto the toilet without screaming in pain or get up either. Taking a bath was a nightmare as well getting in and out of the tub. I went on like this for a good 6 months getting worse every day. I did try everything under the sun for relief. Even using capsacian alcohol rub mixed with DMSO, and other things heated up and used in a very hot compress on the bad areas of my body. That did not help. At the same time my adult son had a horrible pain in his right groin area including his testes. This pain comes and goes for him.

I was able to consult with a former scientist in Russia (friend of son) who has this same problem. He insisted it was an introduced bacterial infection which would make sense as the affected areas would move around my body. The only way I can expel this bacteria is to cough up very, very thick mucus which reminds me of rubber peanuts.

After much trial and error I have hit upon a regieme of home medications that have worked for me. I take MSM capsules 1,000MG two at a time several times a day. I also have been using oil of oregano drops in chocolate milk (only thing I can stand to cut the oregano burn and taste) 2 times a day. I started with 2 drops and then worked up to 5 or 6 drops per cup of milk. I know when I use too many drops as my whole system feels like it's onfire - then I drop back to 2 or 3 drops and feel okay.

At night I feel I can run a marathon or do stuff that I can not do in the daytime. I got so bad I could NOT even roll over in bed as it hurt so much!!! Staying in bed is not the answer either. I walk to the mailbox when I first get up and that seems to help. My lower back hurts when I get up as it seems the bacteria has settled there overnight. My upper thighs hurt horribly on the outside area when I walk most times. My chest hurts horribly when I cough or sneeze as I must in the morning to cough out the goo. I go to bed feeling fine some nights and wake up a royal mess the next day having done nothing out of the ordinary. I can't even walk around most stores to shop as I hurt horribly. Getting up into my old Jeep is an event as well as I must hoist myself up by the steering wheel. Going up and down stairs is mostly a very painful experience.

About 6 months ago my son's inner thigh hurt so much to walk he had to use a cane and he's only 30 years old!! He can't take MSM as he literally can't get to sleep for several days after taking one pill!! Fortunately for me I can take all I want of this stuff and it does not bother me with any ill side effects.

His inner thigh groin pain comes and goes. My "bacteria" comes and goes. Some days I'm a royal mess and then others I can walk up and down stairs and walk okay to some extent with no problems. I think the connection to fluoride is not applicable to me or my son as we were not exposed to any water source that had this in it. Where I live is well water. We also use nonfluoride toothpaste so I am really stumped where we "got" this from. We were both ill with the flu right after my knees in bed incident though and my Russian friend thinks the bacteria entered my body and mutated then from the flu germs. My son had his groin problem after we were ill with the flu. My bacteria problem got horribly worse as well after we had the flu. I am now 67 and my son is 31. We have severe bouts of horrible lethargy with no enthusiasm to do much of anything some days.

I did try ACV and borax and baking soda and all that did to me was make me ill. When my body is ridding itself of the bacteria I get horrible bouts of indigestion to the point where anything including plain water gives me indigestion!!!

I refuse to see a doctor as my Russian friend said when he went to the doctors all they did was pump him full of extra strength antibiotics which worked until he stopped taking them as he took too many of them. He can't take MSM either. They insisted he had fibro and he insisted he had a bacterial infection. I don't have Medicare and don't want it just to have the doctors perform all sorts of tests on me to tell me they "think" I have fibro.

I'm doing fine on the MSM and oil of oregano drops every day and will continue with that regieme until I find something else to take.

Just to clarify. I think the supposed pure form of Fibromyalgia where no inflammation is present may involve a non-infection so more likely to be easily addressed.

People who post cures or remedies need to say whether they have inflammation or not along with better description of their Fibromyalgia when posting cures. Also if pure form, describe the muscle pain.

This will maybe allow people to determine if remedy is relevant to them. Looking at fms questionaire results, that tells me most have the infectious variety.

There have been studies of prevalence among Amish regarding Fibromyalgia and it exists but I do not think it is the infectious variety. Inflammatory diseases in the amish community seem to be rare. They are generally healthy. They rarely have autism like 1 in 15000. There are a few amish who did stupidly get vaccines so some of them have a chance of develop these chronic diseases.

I think vaccines play a major role in the inflammatory kind of fms as as root cause.

Fluoride has been named as playing a role also by some. It's hard to separate the vaccines and fluoride. If Fluoride was the primary cause then the cure would seem to be easy - remove fluoride with borax etc from the body and see if it works. Fluoride could be an exacerbating factor.

Looking at the cure pages I observe that there is a low cure rate for fms. Oil pulling seem to be the most successful at 2. I think fms is a secondary condition for many people so if they address some of the primary cause they will get better. also I think many other cures were of the non inflammatory type of fms.

So people need to clarify their fms when posting cures

The biggest problem in addressing fibromyalgia is that FMS doesn't have any unique symptom. The diagnostic tests are very subjective and crude. We may be talking about more than one group under that umbrella name.

Here is what one site says about fms

"The painful tissues involved are not accompanied by tissue inflammation."

Now the contradiction is that ...

"Costochondritis (a type of chest pain) is common in people with fibromyalgia."

The fms label has tried to separate the two when costochondritis is really part of the disease. this never made any sense.

Also FMS is associated with many other health conditions

Other Conditions/Illnesses Often Associated with Fibromyalgia

• Cancer
• Carpel tunnel syndrome
• Diabetes or hypoglycemia
• Gulf War syndrome
• HIV/AIDS
• Heavy metal toxicity
• Hidden food allergies
• Hypothyroidism or (occasionally) Hyperthyroidism
• Irritable bladder or Irritable bowel syndrome
• Lyme disease
• Menstrual cramps and PMS
• Mouth lesions/Canker sores
• Multiple Sclerosis
• Myofascial Pain Syndrome
• Osteoarthritis or Rheumatoid arthritis
• Raynaud's phenomenon
• Seasonal affective disorderSystemic lupuS
• Temperomandibular jaw pain (TMJ)
• Yeast, parasites and/or other intestinal infections
• Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

So one person talking about fibromyalgia may not necesssarily be the same physical sensations and symptoms as someone else feels. This greatly complicates finding a cure.

I think fibromyalgia involves one or more infections. the DE and gluten free may have addressed that but what subgroup is unknown. They really need to break down the groups into sub groups but I don't see that happening for a long time. I think it makes a lot of studies on FMS invalid since multiple conditions are thrown under one label. it makes it harder for someone with fms to find a cure. I think anyone who has FMS must think of the disease in a bigger box in their mind.

The biggest problem in addressing fibromyalgia is that FMS doesn't have any unique symptom. The diagnostic tests are very subjective and crude. We may be talking about more than one group under that umbrella name.

Here is what one site says about fms

"The painful tissues involved are not accompanied by tissue inflammation."

Now the contradiction is that ...

"Costochondritis (a type of chest pain) is common in people with fibromyalgia."

The fms label has tried to separate the two when costochondritis is really part of the disease. this never made any sense.

Also FMS is associated with many other health conditions

Other Conditions/Illnesses Often Associated with Fibromyalgia

• Cancer
• Carpel tunnel syndrome
• Diabetes or hypoglycemia
• Gulf War syndrome
• HIV/AIDS
• Heavy metal toxicity
• Hidden food allergies
• Hypothyroidism or (occasionally) Hyperthyroidism
• Irritable bladder or Irritable bowel syndrome
• Lyme disease
• Menstrual cramps and PMS
• Mouth lesions/Canker sores
• Multiple Sclerosis
• Myofascial Pain Syndrome
• Osteoarthritis or Rheumatoid arthritis
• Raynaudâ€TMs phenomenon
• Seasonal affective disorderSystemic lupuS
• Temperomandibular jaw pain (TMJ)
• Yeast, parasites and/or other intestinal infections
• Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

So one person talking about fibromyalgia may not necesssarily be the same physical sensations and symptoms as someone else feels. This greatly complicates finding a cure.

I think fibromyalgia involves one or more infections. the DE and gluten free may have addressed that but what subgroup is unknown. They really need to break down the groups into sub groups but I don't see that happening for a long time. I think it makes a lot of studies on FMS invalid since multiple conditions are thrown under one label. it makes it harder for someone with fms to find a cure. I think anyone who has FMS must think of the disease in a bigger box in their mind.

I have shown huge improvements with Diatomaceous Earth and avoiding wheat/gluten. If I avoid Wheat and take my DE at least a couple of times per week I am actually pain free and full of energy! I would not have believed it but it is really like a miracle. I din't think that the pain would ever improve much less go away completely. Doctors were just giving me pain management options but no real options for a cure. I had to find my own.

To Prioris ...

About that Fibromyalgia and microbe connection; I have read the same thing a couple of times. Maybe a specialty virus like polio or ALS? Or is the mirobe a geeneral system wide infection that weakens the immune system either overloading antibodies or reducing their effectiveness? Would love to have more info on that Fibro-Microbe connect if you find anything.

Fibromyalgia is a microbe infection. Treatment should be done from that perspective. It is disinformation when they say it is due to "over active nerves".

Not dangerous unless you are very heat sensitive. It is a dry sauna. You must drink a lot of water before, during, after.

It's well thought of as a detox method. However, expensive to do at a doctor's office! ($70/session) If your holistic dr or naturopath is supervising, you're safe enough.

Do you know the causes behind the fibro? Did it start from a certain incident, creep up slowly, manifest after major family troubles?

Maybe other detox methods would be cheaper? Epsom and dead sea salt soaks... Skin brushing... See how you react to these, before something more dramatic. Do you know how your body reacts to a detox session - sick after it, or energized?

My dr suggested this as alternative to colonics, given my own issues.

Julieh: Please, I beg of you, do not spend your money on man made gizmos, gadgets, and thingamajigs. Trust in God's Goodies. Far infrared cures everybody of everything. Water from volcanoes and mountain springs emit far. Raw organic produce emits far. Ferments emit the most far. Cooked conventionally grown food does not emit far. This is why everybody is sick and suffering. Far infrared machines do not cure anybody of anything because they do not have any nutrients. Raw organic produce and ferments have both nutrients and emit far.

I am wondering about the benefits or dangers of Far Infrared Saunas, especially pertaining to fibromyalgia. Does it help muscle pain?

Can I just buy colloidal silver intead of making my own? What is a good brand?

Hi Anng, Have you looked into Niacin B3? I wish you the best with your parents. You are a wonderful daughter.

Magnesium is more easily absorbed topically. Try Epsom salt baths, they work wonders on my fibro :-)

Remedy: Minocin
Ailment: Fibromylagia

I had Fibromyalgia for over 30 years with my CFIDS/ME. About 15 years ago, I was researching and came across researchers using Minocycline for Lupus. I was also looking at the Garth Nicholson protocol.

I decided to try Minocin which is the brand name for generic minocycline. Almost within 2 days, my fibromylagia symptoms started to melted away. I got some more minocycline prescriptions but my progress reversed.

I decided to go back to minocin and my progress continued. It seems many minocyclines batches are of bad quality. After a while I didn't need it anymore. Fifteen years later and my fibromyalgia is controlled and I sleep well so I still don't need the minocin anymore.

This is my recommendation. You could bypass a doctor presciption by buying and test the antibiotic minocycline from a pet supply place. This is low cost route also. Take bromelaine with it. This is very important. Bromelain increases the effectiveness of antibiotics so may be strong enough to work or give you a good enough indication of it's effectiveness. It also will prevent resistance since it removes any protective sheath from bacteria. If that doesn't work, you could optionally ask a doctor for a test prescription just to see if it works.

I tolerate that antibiotic very well so never run into any problems. I took it for two years to test it against CFIDS/ME. It is suppose to cross the blood brain barrier the best. You will likely know pretty quickly also. Always take Bromelaine with antibiotics. There may be a more natural antibiotic out there so this could be starting point.

Forget about what those mainstream doctors say. The cause of Fibromyalgia is some type of infection. Claiming that it is a defect in some muscles is absurd.

This site is such a gem, I feel like I hit pay dirt, even though with god's grace I don't have any ailments I do know lots of people with chronic pain or fybromyalgia.

It would be really great if there was a way to get the answers to questions about the dosage, as I find that some times there is a whole heap of the same question on dosage and sadly no answer :-(

I want to tell you my story of how I developed FMS, and what has and has not helped me with my fibromyalgia.

I slowly developed some of the symptoms of fibromyalgia (IBS, dermatitis, allodynia, aneamia, low immunity, PMS and irregular, painful menses, etc. ) throughout my childhood until I became very ill at the age of 16, also developing chronic muscular and joint pain, extreme fatigue, brain fog, weakness and a host of other symptoms. I now believe the onset was gradual due to a slowly worsening condition of my gut, partially thanks to the frequent use of antibiotics (as I was often very sick as a child) without probiotics (my parents gave me Yakult to drink for probiotics, unaware of the fact that I was lactose-intolerant and never drank the stuff because it made me feel sick).

Over the next 2 years, I slowly began figuring out which treatments help me to manage the condition: occupational therapy, physiotherapy, not eating foods I was intolerant to, using the right skincare products, gentle exercise and mindfulness meditation. I highly recommend all these treatments. I experimented with fluoride toothpaste and fluoride-free toothpaste for a few months and decided that fluoride definitely brought on intense flare-ups. I now use organic toothpaste, which is expensive but worth it. A cheaper alternative is one of the Sensodyne toothpastes - the one which uses strontium chloride instead of fluoride. I noticed no negative effects from using that. I grew up drinking rain water but whenever I drink tap water I have to filter it or it makes me sick. As far as skincare products go, I recommend MooGoo or ecopure.

BUT in the last couple months, I have discovered the most helpful remedy yet: the Leaky Gut Cure Program by Karen Brimeyer. She proposes that leaky gut can cause fibromyalgia, and that by following her program leaky gut can be healed. (This is a similar theory and treatment to GAPS, but it is a lot cheaper to buy Karen's program than to follow the GAPS program. )The program involves eating certain foods, avoiding certain foods, reducing toxins in your household products and clothing, and following healthy lifestyle practices, such as observing appropriate sleep hygiene and many other things. It also involves supporting your adrenal glands, ridding your body of pathogens and healing the lining of the gut through supplementation. I had read and tried many other similar programs in naturopath books, which only seemed to make me sicker. But this program makes me feel better, not worse, and I can assure you that it is perfectly nutritionally balanced. My pain has decreased (I no longer take pain medications), I can think more clearly, I am sleeping much more soundly and feel refreshed when I awake (rather than stiff, sore and exhausted), I have been feeling a lot more energetic and people are saying that I look really well. And I tell them that it is because I feel really well! I have never felt so alive in all my life!

I cannot give exact details of the program here due to copyright issues, but I will tell you that Karen Brimeyer's program is surprisingly cheap and can be found at www.leakygutcure.com. Anyone with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue or IBS should google GAPS to see if they think that they suffer from it - and if they think it likely that they do, they should try the leaky gut cure for at least a week. Even if it can not cure everyone with FMS, I am sure that it can help many people with it - so it is definitely worth a try!

I now feel confident that I am healthy enough to continue with my university degree and work a part-time job too!

I hope that at least one person reads my post, tries the leaky gut cure and becomes healthy and energetic!

After being totally disabled with fibromyalgia, I have been out of pain and off meds for 13 years. I didn't happen over night, but it did happen. I did it by balancing my hormones, initially balancing brain chemistry, cleaning up my diet, and clearing some toxins, which is likely something you won't hear in your doctor's offices.

I have been studying and working the past 13 years to help others in their recoveries. I want people to get well.

Don't accept the word "incurable. " Keep fighting for restored health. If I can get well, why can't others. I believe something better is out there with your name on it. I want to encourage each of you with fibromyalgia. I understand what you are going through. I have been there.

Here is what I have done to get well.
1. Identify and correct hormonal imbalances using plant-based replacement.
2. Initially corrected brain chemical imbalances, particularly improving a naturally occurring brain chemical called dopamine.
3. Cleaned up my diet and eliminated milk, a food that was causing trouble for me.
4. Cleaned up some toxins.

Rheumatologists and patients typically don't understand the symptoms of hormonal imbalance. I want to help change that. The technology is in the here and now to identify and correct hormonal imbalance.

Do a little research to see if you have symptoms of hormonal imbalance. If you have many of these symptoms, study to find out how to identify and correct imbalances. Here is a hug to each of you. I want you to feel well again.

Patricia Stephens, Certified Nutritional Consultant
reversingchronicdisease.com

After reading through all these posts and hearing about the increase of FMS [Fibromyalgia Syndrome] in women and flouride being in many meds, I'm wondering if more women are suffering from FMS because they take/took birth control for many years. I took it for about 15 years. I thought I'd just throw that out there.

My massage therapist suggested I drink alkaline water so what I've read here seems to jive with that and now it all makes more sense. I'm concerned about trying the ACV because I have barrett's esophagus and am supposed to avoid acids... Then I read to add baking soda to change it from an acid to a salt... you all should be chemists.

This site is very interesting. I'm glad I ran across it while doing research for my stepmom who was just diagnosed with lung cancer.

Thanks for all the great info!

Hello there I am wondering if any one out there has actually used the MMS for fibro?? and if it has alleviated the pain and maybe helped with other symptoms.

Hi Anng from Hurst - Thanks for letting us know about the Sarno book and how much it's helping your mother. I have reserved one of his books at the library (The Divided Mind: The Epidemic of Mind-Body Disorders). You showed great insight in putting the pieces of the puzzle together for your parents. The best of health to you and yours! Bess

Hi, thanks for your post, very interesting. I do believe that if you pray and ask for guidance then you will receive help- isn't that how most of us found earth clinic in the first place. To speed up your mum's healing remember that to look at what she eats is she getting all the vitamins she needs- in times of stress we need more b vits and signs of dementia are relieved by fish oils. Best wishes to you and your mum.

My mom has suffered from fibromyaliga for about 20 years. Mostly in the form of pain in her back and shoulders, with bouts of chronic fatigue. Took Hydrocodone for all that time and just suffered through it, continuing to work because she loves her job as manager of a health food store. Has tried every herbal remedy out there (she's very knowledgeable and best friend is an ND), and some other alternative therapies such as acupuncture and detoxing through the feet. Some things gave temporary relief but that was all.

I've believed for many years that the root cause for all her problems were emotions she had not dealt with. My mom is a pacifist (sometimes passive aggressive but hates confrontation), and has a background of abuse and feeling unloved and unsupported, with the exception of us kids. Her symptoms all began after we all moved "out of the nest". In the following years I noticed that symptoms worsened during stressful and emotional times. In my heart and gut I KNEW her emotions were making her manifest pain physically. I didn't know how that was possible, but I just knew.

Seven years ago I got into a happy marriage and had a child, our closeness and daily communication took a hit, resulting in a sort of separation between us, and that - I believe - was the last straw for her. She went rapidly downhill from there. It culminated in a nervous breakdown this past summer which brought on new symptoms: brain fog that very much resembled dementia in its severity, SEVERE fatigue, hearing and seeing things, and more pain than ever. My father was scared to death and broke down with me on the phone one day crying. I resolved in that moment to find a way to help her and thus began my journey that I'm sharing here.

After praying for guidance, and weeks of frantic research on this site and others, I stumbled upon Mickel Therapy and also a book by Dr. John Sarno about Mindbody medicine. It changed the way I looked and pain and other symptoms and in my heart I KNEW this was the solution. In essence, when there are emotions that that aren't processed or dealt with properly, a physical manifestation in the form of various symptoms begins to happen. Sarno's book says that our mind distracts us from having to deal with painful emotions by creating symptoms in our bodies. Mickel therapy is a bit different, saying that unprocessed emotions affects the hypothalmus gland which then goes into overdrive and creates unwanted symptoms. Bottom line is that it all goes back to emotions wreaking havoc. Sounds awfully simplistic, doesn't it? But I knew it was worth pursuing because everything else had been tried, and because I'd known all along that her problems were tied to her emotions, and now I knew exactly how.

So I shared all that information with my parents and began a sort of "coaching" with them both about learning to talk about emotions, which was a bit of a process because my parents don't talk about such things (hence her problems). I continued praying for guidance, talking with her, and mended our relationship. I laid out for her a timeline of sorts to show my theories on WHY her symptoms started (us leaving home), and the progression of them over time as they related to emotional issues in her life. It was hard because of her severe brain fog... Sometimes an uphill battle, but she is getting better!

The confusion is dramatically improved, as is her pain and energy levels. Her and my dad are talking all the time, and have even had a few dates. Their relationship is slowly improving because of all of this, which is nearly as miraculous as the improvements in her symptoms. She still has a ways to go, and will have to continue to practice this new way of thinking of her body and illness, but she is on the road to recovery. I am so far beyond grateful that I was led to the knowledge I was so I could bring my Mom back to us. I urge everyone to read and research more about this powerful link between mind, body, and emotions.

I have suffered most of the time since my freshman year in high school when I had the flu really bad. I have CFS and Fibromyalgia. I took a ton of supplements just to keep even, and had slowly been improving since taking a heart med that made me deathly ill. I finally decided to try Colloidal Silver (CS). I seemed to improve enough to notice but also relapsed after I ran out of CS. So, I decided to make my own, ordered some 9999 silver and made a crude CS maker for very little cost except for the battery. Then I found that the more I took, the better I felt. Up until I would get Jarish Herxheimer, then back off a little for several days. I decided that it was killing the virus that started when I was in school. Then I decided to try L Lysine, to see if the virus was a Herpes type. I started getting even better. And, it seems that lightening the viral load let all the other supplements I take start working. I actually can now tell if something actually helps me, where I never could be sure before. CS and L Lysine are both cheap, if you make your own CS. I had come to the conclusion that I would be stuck being too sick to ever work again, taking narcotic pain meds, getting shots in my spine the rest of my life. And frankly, if being sick and in excruciating pain is life.... If I believed in suicide I would have been gone a couple of years ago. But, hope springs eternal! And, I thank God for the good people that make Earth Clinic the best site to find out what really works, and how to use it. Needless to say, I have spent years and years in doctor's offices just fot the worst of the symptoms. Lol You can't tell them all that is wrong with you because they have been taught that if Big Pharma doesn't have a pill that will cure you, then you are a nut case! The medical establishment is great with surgery and broken bones, etc. I depend on them for E Coli, DVT, Appendicitis, etc. but, I've run into too many "God complexes" types. We in the chronically ill community have to be our own doctors, because "modern medicine" doesn't have a clue!

It's always good to keep an open mind and "look elsewhere".... As long as you still look at Fluoride. Saying you know someone who lived to 90 and drank fluoride is not scientific. I know people who lived to 90 and smoked cigaretters all their lives. On that evidence would you care for a smoke? And my brother had one bad Ford and thinks "all" fords are rotten cars. That is not scientific.

One example proves nothing. Especially since we don't know why they might have overcome fluoride, resisted carcinogenic fumes or why a machine produced a lemon car. Statistically there will always be exceptions. But most people go with averages and general trends. Living by expecting you will always be one of the exceptions is a dangerous way to live.

As far as I have heard no "filter" can take out Fluoride. Thus if somebody says their filter "delivers a safe level of fluoride" then they are probably just playing with words, meaning they just delivering, unfiltered, straight through to you, the fluoride that is in the water, which they consider to be safe, with "safe" as determined by government regulations and specifications (if there are any). (small comfort.)

The only way to get fluoride-free wate is distillation and reverse-osmosis. If you want to get fluoride out of your water then you should investigate a reverse-osmosis or distillation system, and leave filters to those who blindly accept pat vague phrases.

Even the health stores do this word play game. For example I recently went to get fish oil and found they all were flavored, apple, orange, etc. I read the ingredient list to find some mysterious ingredient called "natural flavor. " Now what is that? Why all the mystery? If it is apple flavor in apple fish oil then what not say "apple peel" or "apple juice" or so on. Why some vague words like "natural flavor?" Obviously to hide what is in it. MSG is "natural" and so is fluoride. So "natural" is a meaningless word. Why are health food companies playing such word games? Why are health food stores accepting products that play such word games. I refused to buy it, saying I don't want additives in my fish oil and the person at the health store even swore left and right that it was not an additive! As if fish come with apples stuck in their mouths. It looks to me like something was added, and that makes it an add-itive. Just because it is a health food store, or a water filter company, doesn't mean you should blindly trust them. It doesn't mean they care about your health. Ask for things in writing. And reject vague words and double-talk.

So don't be blindsided by water filter companies and their word games. Ask to see proof if they claim it takes out fluoride, or any other thing. Look for the word "removes" or "takes out" and not just vague words like "delivers a safe level."

Boron is a chemical element that sits next to carbon in the periodic table of elements.

Borax is a form of sodium borate (2 sodiums, 4 borons, and 7 oxygen atoms) surrounded by 10 water molecules.

The boron you get at health stores is usually boron gylcinate, meaning the boron is chelated (bound to the small amino acid glycine, the smallest amino acid). The theory is that the body is "tricked" to treat the substance as if it has ingested a tiny protein (made of amino acids) and so should absorb the boron better than if it were just some inorganic (rock-like) chemicals. (Borax is mined from the ground). Once this is in the body the body cells are supposed to separate the boron out from the amino acid and use it. By contrast if "inorganic" boron were used it is "thought" that in the gut the sodium borate would react with other substances and form some substance that might never even make it out of the gut and into the body proper.

But there are really very little studies to show that the better absorption "theory" actually works. Or that the boron really ends up free from the amino acid. Sometimes chelated minerals are better absorbed, sometimes worse, sometimes the same and often only marginally better than salt forms of the minerals. So bottom line: the Boron tablets are probably just as good as cheap borax.

Plus we don't know here if the medicinal effect is in the gut or in the body spaces or cells. Perhaps the borax is just doing its work solely in the gut. Or maybe some of the sodium borate does get into the blood. More research is needed. But, inversely, there is no reason, at the moment, to say that boron from borax is better used by the body than boron from boron glycinate (health store tablets). But perhaps here, we should look at the medical as opposed to nutritive use of the substance. Maybe, we are looking at some effect, not of boron, but of the sodium borate.

Apple Cider Vinegar is not the same as "vinegar" if you mean white vinegar sold in stores, which nobody in their right mind should ever put in their body. White "vinegar" is pure acetic acid without any of the buffers of natural ACV, without any of the minerals, and other compounds of nature. It is chemical lab junk.

Also, if you take ACV with baking soda then you no longer have any acid but a salt. So no worries.

But beware. These days big business has put their foot into the health food arena and come up with "mimic" health food. You have to pay attention and read labels even in health food stores. For example somme sell as ACV stuff that is filtered, purified and so on to take any goodness out of it (anything that might reduce shelf life and affect profits).... that is , there is a lot of ACV that is just brown acetic acid, rather than real ACV.

I started taking ACV because I read it would help with weight loss. The next morning when I walked down the stairs, which the first time in the morning I usually hobbled down, there was NO pain. After a couple of weeks, I stopped (dumb but a good test) - well pain came back. Started again on the ACV - gone and it is almost immediate results. Great stuff, no poisons/toxins like most medications. LOVE the stuff!!

I am female who has been suffering with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue for 15 years and have tried every remedy in the book, plus some. I would have success with some remedies short term but never long lasting. I have recently been doing an intense research on biofilms and nano bacteria which has helped me understand why I had not had a full recovery. Not to mention the relapses or excruciating. Any body with any chronic disease should research this information as I think this is what is needed at this time. I have read some postings on EC in regards to biofilm and nano bacteria however it has been hard to put it all together.

I am posting 3 links I have found most helpful. Two of them are protocols for biofilms and nano bacteria and the other is how vitamin D will actually make the disease worse (a must read). Vitamin D seems to relieve symptoms at first because it acts a secosteroid so a person has short term relieve. In the long run it actually makes the disease worse. The article explains in detail how it does and provides research, references and studies.

This has not been an easy journey for those of us who have suffered with years of chronic pain and conditions but I am hopeful with this information. One thing for sure I have learned the hard way, watch what you eat. There is no short cut or way around avoiding proper diet. Remember to stay optimutist has all things are possible with God or what name you call your creator.

http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/
http://www.herbsforlyme.com/category-s/225.htm
http://mpkb.org/home/pathogenesis/vitamind

Hi, I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia in 1999 and in 2010 I start taking gamma-Aminobutyric acid (Gaba) 500mg with B6, I did start slowly but I increase the dose to 1000mg then 1500mg and 2000 mg per day. I also took Ashwagandha for 3 months then I stop Ashwagandha but not the Gaba,

In June 2012, I realize now that even if I do not take Gaba every day my pain does not come back anymore.

Also I am taking a full spectrum Vitamins with Iron, vitamin D, Calcium with C.

I take ___ protein [supplements] with BCAA's (for Lunch 3 times a week), Taurine 500 mg and Magnesium everyday in the evening with a snack, Melatonin 4 mg before I go to bed

I drink a tomato juice with 3 tsp of Apple cider vinegar 3 to 4 time a week....

I have a very healthy diet a lot of green smoothies (avocado spinach, Mango or green apple... and Protein powder but not to much fruits too much sugar...

I feel great today and I think that 2 years of Gaba cure me from all that pain..... I do exercise one hour every day...

if someone else took very high dose of Gaba please share your experience I would like to know.

Hi Mary Margaret, sorry about your condition. Have you ever tried Tamarind Juice and Wheat Grass Juice. Tamarind Juice will remove the flouride poison and wheat grass juice will produce pure blood and this pure blood will rejuvenate the tissues and organs. replenish your bones. You have nothing to loose, just a simple Tamarind Juice at least to remove the poison.

Wheat grass juice is tough to make as we are heading to winter. But you can buy from dynamic greens, their quality is good. I used their wheat grass juice and it is nice.

Here are the foods and conditions to avoid strictly.

• No Flouridated Toothpaste
• No Flouridated Bottled Water
• No Microwave Cooking
• If possible you can change your place for 1 month where toxicated surroundings are less.

Here is my tamarind juice recipe link: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/fluoride2.html#TAMARIND

You can continuously take it for 4 weeks daily then give a gap of 1 week and again continue for 2 weeks or So. There after weekly 3 times. Be informed, don't take more than 2 glass tamarind juice daily and don't take continuously for 2 months. I take Once in a week, to remove flouride poison as my city water is flouridated.

Try it, this may do wonders. Who knows sometimes a lifelond Chronic Disease can be cure by a Dollar value of food. Nature has its invincible power.

Good Luck

Go to www.watercure2.org

It will cure you... AND it's for free.

Hi. Fibromyalgia for17 years. Single mom with four children. I divorced my abusive husband and have raised my kids alone for over 18 years. When my youngest child was 2 yrs. old I had a hysterectomy. 4-6 months later I was critically ill. I am writing this post after two months of reading every post and tons of questionaires. I am an educated woman and after 6 years of pure hell with doctors, dentists, rheumatologists, counselors, Chiropracters and Psychiatrists I realized that the only way I would ever be well is if I figured it out on my own. I also have 6 sisters with Fibro and they too have been looking for answers for many many years. I am not simply thankful for earthclinic. No, what I am is ecstatic, sad, joyful, relieved and so very hopeful that I am consistently on the verge of tears. My symptoms have tortured me but with four children and little money and just as little emotional support I have been victorious thus far. Because I realize now that I have done the best that I could. I spent years feeling guilty. I thought I was weak. Doctors convinced me that it was Psychosomatic. The horror of Fibro is that others cannot understand. It's too much and too erratic. It doesn't make sense even to me so how would someone without Fibro be able to understand. Thank you, all of you. I am not guilty anymore because all of you have reassured me that I am not alone. I have been hopeful about cures before. In fact my family and even my children find my excitement boring and irritating most times. Most people think I'm nuts because I cant stop looking for answers. The reason: NO ONE realizes how horribly sick I am. I don't really LOOK sick. I laugh. I can walk. I'm not in a wheelchair. I work. I clean. Most people think I'm a Hypochondriac. When I can't function and stay in bed I can't say, it's my Fibromyalgia. I used to say that and felt humiliated by the looks I received. This illness is known as a "Pain Syndrome" what a crock! Chronic Fatigue is known as "being tired all the time". I have said for a long time to the few who would listen, Something has poisoned me. Every single piece of my body, including my brain is in pain. Headaches for days in a row that create nausea and numb my brain. Hands that hurt holding a pen. Eyes burning like they are on fire. Blurry vision. Foot pain that brings tears to my eyes when I walk 1 block. Ears and head itching and aching like something is crawling inside. My neck is so painful ALL the time. I eat well. I am a positive thinker. I have a fulfilling job. I have no car so I walk and ride the bus everywhere. I love life. I love nature. I have educated myself on health and wellness for years. The point that I am making? Fibromyalgia CANNOT be healed as easily or quickly as some have posted. I have had times in the past where healthy living made me feel much better. I am sold on the Flouride connection because I SHOULD be healthy. Something is poisoning me. I have spent 3 weeks researching any and all information on Flouride. I have read the pros and the cons of water fluoridation. The history of Flouride. The case studies of Skeletal Flourosis and even researched the research. I have spent 2 weeks on Teds Borax etc. regimen and I am horribly horribly sick from head to toe. I don't care how long this takes but I won't quit until I am well. For those of you who get better in two days man are you lucky. For those like me Suffer through it. Don't give up. Maybe some of us are more poisoned than others.

I could go on forever but I'll stop now. God bless all of us. I hope this is it because I can't bear to think of any more, especially children going through life with all this pain and sadness. Thank you for earthclinic. Thank God for compassionate human beings.

Can you direct me to more information regarding vinager causing stomach cancer for A blood types please?

Just saw this interview of two people who run a health center. The lady said she used to suffer from IBS and fibromyalgia: http://renegadehealth.com/blog/healing-stories-from-hallelujah-acres

They run a website which offers free programs and support for a juicing diet. Some of you might be able to help yourself by following it: http://www.juiceupyourlife.com/support

Can you please let us know the herbalists name in Phila.?

Floride is also in Air pollution. If you do some internet searches you can easily verify this. It is interesting to note that floride used to be used to treat hyperthyroidism. An estimated 90% of fibro patients are hypothyroid, so floride is an adverse insult to the system. A hypothyroid patient with exposures to floride is being dirven further into a thyroid hormone deficient state.

Magdaleen, it is probably just die-off, so do not stop the borax. You may also want to take some MSM to help for the fibromyalgia. I have been taking borax for extended periods without any side effects. Sometimes the fibromyalgia may also be acid related, therefore (if not doing it already) take Ted's alkalizer as directed, as well as ACV. It has done wonders for my fibromyalgia and acid related pains. In good health, Deon

I wanted to put this out there--I did not want to post it before running it by the site. By the way because of the site I am off lipitor now after 12 years.

FYI--my wife was diagonosed with fibromyalgia in 1997. We tried all the doctors, MRI etc. We have the best health insurance. Finally tried something called bio-puncture--injections of natural remedies directly into her back for pain. Worked slightly but it took me to find a master herbalist in Phila. Well long story short--he tested her blood with a radiotronics machine. She had traces of lupus, pagents disease, bursitus. He made a homeopath remedy for a two week period. After two weeks we went back and retested. He found another four things that were there also. Another two week remedy. Well--after a month her pain all but vanished. She has been on muscle relaxers and pain pills for years.

To top it all off I was told I had herpes in my twenties. I made him test me and was told I had bartholonis. It mimics herpes and he made me a remedy. I used to take everclr which was an immune booster and only had problems a couple of times a year. Well I stopped taking the herbs and no sign of the blisters. I thought I had herpes for thirty years and never had it.

Since there is nothing like this on here, I wanted to let you know. I tell everyone about the site. I believe this man is a miracle worker. I am taking my wife back again soon to be retested. How can something like this not be out there? You can check his site--at first I thought the testimonials were bogus--but not anymore. His site is earthmotherherbs.Org. By no means am I promoting it--from what he tells me very few people are trained in this radiotronics machine. What is earthclincs take on this? Of course I don`t want my name used in the herpes section but this was a miracle. Please reply with your thoughts.

Have you given a thought about Flouride poisioning could be the cause of Fibromyalgia. You can try the tamarind juice to safely remove flouride.

Here is a link for the recipe and other papers about tamarind

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/fluoride2.html#TAMARIND

Can somebody please assist me, I have started using the borax 1/8 on a liter water per day, my body is aching more and I feel feverish, I suffer with fibromyalgia and neck and back problerms. Is this a die off symptom or do I have to worry about it. I only used it for 2 days now. Regards

I discovered through reading the Eating for 4 Your Blood Type that type A blood types don't do well eating the night shades or oranges. The potatoes, tomatoes, make my body hurt and oranges and peppers burn my skin. I can't use cleansers with orange oil in them either as they burn me. The plug in perfumey things people use in their homes must be orange based too as they also burn my eyes and are a horrible attack to me. I wish they would ban them. I would be careful of using vinegar as it can cause stomach cancer in A blood types.