One tablespoon coconut oil, 4 drops of pure oregano essential oil 100 percent, several (2-4 it stains clothing can be left out) drops of turmeric diluted, mix .. brush teeth, apply to interior of nose to fight colds, apply to hands a.m. as infection fighter at public places, after a brown recluse spider bite .. puts brakes on cellular degeneration immediately .. follow up with chili pepper gel caps after any spider bite .. stroke or heart attack in next two days. Stuff E.R. never dreamed could happen - herbs weak and ineffective - you take life flight I'll take herbs.
Baking Soda, Salt, and Garlic
Thank You so much for having this site available! I was bitten 5 days ago the area has been very sore and itchy. I did go to a walk in clinic and they basically said ice, Tylenol, antihistamine cream which none helped:( I have been miserable knowing there must be something more I could do! I made my poultice of baking soda, pink Himalayan salt, crushed garlic covered it with large gauze bandaid! Wow instant relief:) It's midnight it's all I had in the house. I saw active charcoal mentioned too.I'm going to have this on hand in the future as well! This is my first time bitten by a spider! Not fun, it's very painful and scary! Hopefully it heals up nicely soon and doesn't get worse:(
How do I make baking soda poultice?
Lipospheric Vit-C + MSM may be more effective by itself or taken after DMSO. All these work very well together and maybe enough to safe off the worst in poisoning situations.
Many outdoor enthusiast carry along the MMS precursors in case of spider or snake bite. MMS is effective against most or all poisonous snakes & spiders if given immediately and on ever hrs until no more symptoms.
I love this website been checking it out for quite awhile I decided I needed to post. I was bitten by a spider called the Brown Recluse several times my arm swelled up like a balloon. I checked the Canadian sites, I was surprised they are listed in southern part of Ontario. I was quite sick, fever we called ambulance they transported me to the ER I was given antibiotics I should went right away I lingered for 2 days it is now oozing out of the fang holes what I did is apply tree oil to keep it clean then I mixed baking soda sea salt and a strong white vinegar I doused my arm with that mixture every couple of hours. It does take the itch away, it is still so painful. On top I had that terrible flu that is going around. The doctor told me that what I was already doing saved me from blood poisoning. We figured he got in from the garage through the back door or from the bananas we bought frm the supermarket. We sprayed the garage and the back entrances , all vents etc it's rare that we have any spiders in the house now on we will keep the back sprayed plus check the grocery bags etc. Thank you for listening Jackie Mac
I was bitten on the foot by a black widow spider and read where clinics use sulfur based anti-biotics for bites. I had no insurance, so I tried triple anti-biotic cream, hydrocortizone, and sublimed sulfur in equal parts aplied 4 times a day. In 2 weeks the hole where you could see the bones, was nothing more than a rough red spot.
Thank for the info about bee.. spider bites.. Chewing Tobacco will pull poison.. But Not Pain..
The way to get rid of the Pain .. Is to press hard in that bite location.. Untill pain stops.. It will stop in a few minutes.. Reason its hurting.. Your Blood proteins are trapped.. By the pressure it releases the blood proteins..
Like when your hitting a nail with a hammer. But you hit your finger.. Just apply pressure on you finger.. Pain will leave soon after. Next day no sign of damage.
I agree Alfred, applying direct pressure to the injured area immediately after injuring oneself, is very effective for lessening the pain.
The very best remedy for quickly healing bruises is Arnica salve. If you don't have any, make a salve with 1 part cayenne pepper and 5 parts melted Vaseline, mix and cool, apply once a day.
A homemade ice pack can be made by mixing 2 parts water and 1 part alcohol in a nylon bag and freezing it, the bag will be flexible and can be molded to the body. It will not sweat.
I live in philippines and was bitten by spider, next morning woke up with red streaks and swelling of leg, when I got back home I appled a poultice made of tobbaco, charcoal, honey and chopped up garlic, and put on bite coverd with a peice of banana leaf, sitting at computer about 3 hours later and could see trickle running down my leg, at first I thought it was the honey but is just kept oozing out, that evening my swelling diapeared and so did the red streaks, but the bite had opened into a sore about 3/8 of inch across and swelled up like a boil, I did this for 2 days and it had pulled all of the infection or poison out, don t know wat kind of spider it was
Spider Bites - Brown Recluse
My family and I live in the Northeast Georgia mountains where insects thrive indoors and outdoors. A few years ago while I was building our new home in the mountains my wife, my daughter and myself lived in a small cabin around 500 sq. Ft. Within a few days of each other my wife and daughter we both bitten behind one ear by a Brown Recluse spider. My daughters bite wound healed fairly quickly but my wife's turned out to be the size a 50 cent piece and and was very painful. The bit wound looked like it went to the skull and was open and oozing. Her doctor prescribed antibiotics which she took religously for several weeks with no apparent relief or healing. She wen back to our doctor and he said surgery was the only option. To cut out the bite site. My wife and I talked over and her biggest concern was the pain and her inability to sleep and she did not want to have surgery. I called friends and finally spoke wiht one that knew an old man that lived with his wife in North Carolina and was known as the "Spider Man". I can't remember his name but he appeared to be around 80 and showed me his herb garden and described all sorts of natural treatments for ailments. He looked at my wife's bite and said he had the cure. He said it would require at least two trips back to his house. He used sterile tweezers and said he had to get the core out of the wound. It appeared to look like a small whiteish cork. Once the core was out he went to his freezer and pulled out a ziplock baggie that looked like ground up grass. He said it was Wild Hydrangea, from the stem after the thin brown bark covering was removed and it was chopped finely up. He put this cold compress containing the wild Hydrangea in some gauze and wrapped it around my wifes head until the poutice was on the wound. He said to leave it there three days then come back on the third day. When he removed the gauze on the third day the wound had shrunk to 1/5 its original size and was beginning to close up. One more treatment with the Wild Hydrangea for another three day period totally closed the wound. My wife is back to her old self with barely a scar behind her ear. This really worked where modern medicine failed!
Robert from Blairsville, you are talking about Mr. Kisselburg, lives over in Culberson, NC.
He also healed my son of 2 Brown Recluse spider bites, when all "professional help" had failed. My son was on 2 of the highest dose, most expensive antibiotics and was begging me to make them cut his leg off.
Mr. Kisselberg's mother was given this "cure" by a Cherokee Indian and they refer to it as 7 Bark. Mr. Kisselberg himself was healed with it, when as a young boy he chopped wood too close to his leg and chopped through his knee. Being poor, they couldn't afford a doctor. His knee was gangrenous and they moved his bed to the front porch outside. A Cherokee Indian came by, communicated with his mother asking what was wrong. She explained and showed him the wound. He came back an hour or so later and gave her the cure to use.
I am a Pagan and a healer and have learned vauable information from Mr. Kisselburg, a truly great man.
I was bitten by a brown recluse on Sat. May 30th. It is now June 24th. I went to the Doctor with in 24 hours. They have me Levaquin for the anitbiotic and a pain killer. Then told me to come back the next day for them to lance the blister.
I chose not to go to the same doctor...but went back to a doctor whom had previously treated a bite from the brown recluse years earlier. He said not to lance the blister..and said he would not be giving me the steroid shot he gave me previously. I had been bitten years earlier on the back by a brown recluse which took 5 months to heal.
Well this time I decided to take the matter into my own hands and found this website. I have been using a mixture of antibacterial salve and baking soda... also used activated chacoal. I have switched between the two and mixed the olive leaf extract with the baking soda. I can say I am almost to the point of no longer having dead tissue..and starting the complete healing process. It has still been a painful process however...I truly believe with out the information the wound would've been deeper and taken months longer to heal...and it was in very soft tissue..the belt line.
Jim Humble, who developed MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement), says that for brown recluse bites, apply desitin and a band-aid. It de-activates the poison. I have never been bitten by a brown recluse, but I would absolutely love to know if someone has tried this and if it works. I have family who has been bitten (before I knew about the desitin cure) and it's very horrible.
Hydrogen Peroxide, Honey, Witch Hazel
Yesterday, I notice my 3yr old son scratching his leg, so I got close to check his leg, I saw a odd insect bite. It didn't look like a mosquito bite, it was about 2 inch, dark red, swollen & firm all around & it was peeling in the center. I show my husband & told me it was a spider bite. He recognizes it because he's had them before. I never seen a spider bite in my life because I lived in FL before moving up here & these things don't come up as often as they do here in GA. So I used hydrogen peroxide to clean the infection, after that I smeared some honey on it & left it to sit. After several hour I notice the swelling going down. I took him a bath before bed time & I dabbed witch hazel on it. Today, I check to see it's progress & I was relieved to see the result. The redness of the bite was fading, it shrunk & he wasn't scratching it anymore. Thank goodness for home remedies!
EC: Everyone should also look at images of MRSA boils to make sure they don't confuse spider bites for these boils!
Here's the google link : http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=MRSA+boils&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=
Arizona recluse spider bite: I read each and every testimonial about spider bites in this very resourceful site. I woke in the middle of the night with an itchy and raised area on my back. I thought it may have been a misquito until I looked in the mirror the next morning. It looked just like the "bull's eye" red rings with white around it as described in some of these paragraphs above. It had a white funnel shaped center and was about the size of a quarter.
I immediately put rubbing alchohol on it and that burned the site. Then I forgot about it for a couple days while busy at work. It continued to weep and itch with a sticky substance at the site. That is when I started to research "spider bites" on the web and found this awesome site. I immediately went to a health food store and purchased some activated charcoal capsules. I made a paste with water and applied it to the site and bandaged it as the charcoal stains. I did this 3 times for 3 days. I also took a couple of capsules of the charcoal by mouth for several days as I felt nauseous and it helped calm my stomach. Then I read where someone mentioned getting a permanent "tatoo" impression from the charcoal so I switched to baking soda. I could feel it working immediately into the site. I used the baking soda covered with a bandage for another 3 days and saw the redness start to disappaint for the 1st time. The size of the bite never got any bigger but the redness would not subside for about 10 days or so. Then I started to use an organic "witch hazel" from the health food store that was labeled as a "medicated superhazel". It was a "topical pain reliever" that included aloe vera, Calendula, Clove, Grapefruit seed, Peppermint oil and witch hazel. It felt so right and good. I saw dramatic results within hours. The redness started to tone down and the next day the "bull's eye" circle was smaller. It has continued to improve each day dramatically and after 3 days of using this super witch hazel it is almost disappeared. The center has formed a dark scab that is tiny and the surrounding bite site has almost disappeared entirely. I used the witch hazel with a cotton ball and applied it approx. 3-4 times, daily. I will continue to use this until it is gone. If I had to do it over again I think I would eliminate the charcoal poltice as it is very messy and stains everything. I think the baking soda does the same trick of pulling out the poison. I would take the charcoal, orally, though as I do believe it soaks up the venom in your system. I waited too long before starting the process and think if I used the baking soda in combination with the medicated witch hazel it would have improved the 1st week. I am going into week 3 and feel really good that I found this web site. Thanks everyone who has added comments.
Turmeric cured two boils on my left arm before they erupted. After they appeared I went to your site in search of homeopathic spider anti-venom. There I found your reference to the common error of mistaking boils for spider bites. After just one week of following your suggested regimen of one teaspoon of turmeric dissolved in warm water, three times a day, my spider bites turned boils had all but disappeared without ever breaking the surface of the skin. Just as a precaution I kept Neosporin ointment applied to the locations under bandages, which I changed daily.
Kudos to your remedy and for your skeptical readers, I can say that this really works! Thanks...
EC: Read more about turmeric for boils here: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/boils.html#TURMERIC
Vitamin C is truly a medicine to take everywhere you go. I've used it for a spider bite I got while canoeing down a creek. My arm swelled and hurt and I didn't realize why at first. It finally dawned on me that I had brushed a limb at the start of the trip and spiders galore fell in the boat with me. Evidently one bit me!
I took 3-4G every 1.5 hours or so after getting home and continued the next day. Never got any signs of overdosing ie gas or diarrhea. I estimate I took 40G over 24 hours! It killed most of the swelling by nightfall the day of the trip!
Also had an employee get stung by a wasp. He told me the last time he got bit he had to go to the hospital. I gave him 5G and sent let him leave. He told me in an hour or so the pain and swelling had diminished greatly. He didn't have anymore vitamin C but he didn't need to visit the hospital!
High Voltage, Low Amperage Dc Current
I'd learned about high voltage, low amperage DC current from an article that had come out in 1986 in Outdoor Life I think it was. We'd bought the issue because we'd had so many goats, cats, and dogs snake bitten.
In 1989 I was bitten by a recluse on the calf, and used meat tenderizer and charcoal for the first 5 days. I'd packed the growing hole with one, leave it in for hours, then wash it out and pack it with the other. The thing that had me scared was that it was doing everything the book said it would do, not only a hole 1/4" deep and 3/8" across, but a hot red raised area 3" across with a starlike effect of redder lines within it. I called a fellow who'd worked at Uchi Pines doing alternative medicine, to ask if I really needed to shock it, and he said it sounded that way. We grounded one side of the bite with a screwdriver from the woven wire fence, then ran a wire from the electrified top wire to the other side, using insulated pliers to hold it. I ran the shocks through the bite area, and it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd feared. The shocks ran only in that small area, more like a little bite than having my whole body shocked. 24 hours later the hole had obviously not grown any more, and in another 12 hours the hot red raised area was nearly normal. The whole thing just faded away, leaving me with a small blue scar.
In 1991 I noticed two little red marks on a knuckle and thought the same thing I'd thought the first time, "Those are just far enough apart to be spider fang marks." Six days went by, and I woke up to a little brown oozy hole in the middle of each pink mark. There was a PT working across the street, so I called and asked if she'd run electrostim on them. She said come on over, and told me that she used to use ultrasound and Betadine on such bites, but as I insisted on electrostim, she flipped a switch and did all 3 at once. The wounds closed up that afternoon.
The next time it happened, it was like some people describe the bites, I got a black spot on my ankle that looked just like someone had dropped silver nitrate on it. It was perfectly even with the surrounding skin, and painless till after about 5 days the surface peeled off. Within a few hours it was really hurting so I used the electrodes from a "Beck Box" on either side, for about 10 minutes. The thing didn't bother me for a week, then it started hurting again, I ran the box longer and hotter and it went away after that. The secretary at the office where I'd borrowed the box used it twice when she had brown recluse bites. We have a Hulda Clark Zapper, but I don't think the voltage is high enough on it. It was not like my other bites, but was equally slow and was working it's way down through the layers.
Then my husband got bitten on the arm and he used his electroacupuncture gadget, grounding on one side of the bite and zapping on the other. A friend got bitten, had the classic nasty brown oozy wound on her leg, and as she had a TENS unit we simply put the pads on either side of the bite and turned it on blast for about 15 minutes. I forget how I treated the last two bites I got, they occurred about a week apart and I didn't let them got very far.
I introduced my chiropractor to the notion of treating recluse bites with his electrostim machine. I had a friend who'd been bitten 3X and had learned to use clay poultices morning and evening to heal them, but then she got a bite on her neck and after 6 days of poultices woke up to swollen glands in her neck and was scared. So that was the first one my DC got to use his machine on, and that was the end of the problem for her.
The one horror story I have witnessed was a friend who went to the dr the same day she was bitten, got on the antibiotics but they didn't do a thing. Her arm swelled up double, and when I heard about it 6 days later, I called immediately and told her to rush over to a DC who would use his electrostim on it. It had eaten a strip on her upper arm an inch wide, 5" long and about 1/8" deep. The wound stopped growing and healed up. She has a horrible scar, but it would certainly kept on eating to the bone had it not been stopped. There are 400 people where she works, they all know about what happened to her and believe me, they and all their friends and relatives will be going to a DC instead of an MD for TX.
The PT who did my 2nd bite told me about a guy who'd been bitten in a very delicate place. The MD's had nothing to offer except to cut out the bite area, which was not in a place where he thought he had anything to spare. The PT, on hearing his story, showed him how to use her machine and had him tow it to the restroom every time he came in for his other tx. She said it saved his marriage. (She also told me about saving her dog which had been snake bitten on a holiday weekend, she applied a TENS unit after he'd suffered for a couple of hours, in 20 minutes he was up dragging it around and wagging his tail. We just use Vit C for animals with snake bite, but we do have a TENS unit just in case. )
I talked with a nurse who works in a wound center, and she was astonished that I know about all these bite cases in which none of their debridement and other medical treatments were necessary. In fact, I was surprised to see that some people do know about the shock treatment. See http://en.allexperts.com/q/General-Surgery-2076/Brown-Recluse-Spider-Bites.htm which also mentions that the venom is "heat labile, calcium dependent, and optimally active at a pH of 7.1." They approved of a home remedy of hot and cold applications.
When I read all the things people have done for what they think are recluse bites, I have several thoughts. First of all, some of them were not recluse bites. I've been bitten my more kinds of bugs than most modern Americans. One thing that will show up in most recluse bites is a stage where there are two small holes, before they grow together and become one large hole. For a day or so after they combine, the hole is often square looking rather than round. Second, some actual recluse bites just got better, because of where the bites were, the person's good circulation and the assistance of salt to draw out toxins, of turmeric to reduce inflammation so the circulation could get in, etc. For example, an old man told me about how his little sister had developed a hole in her leg that ate all the way to the bone. In desperation, their dr had had their mother rip up and old sheet and fill little squares with Epsoms salts. When one was saturated, she pulled it out and stuffed another one in. That healed up the wound, which we can now guess was an early recluse bite. I don't think they were nearly as common before central heating. In my own case, salt and proteoplytic enzymes (in the meat tenderizer) and charcoal did not stop the progression of the bite. The next thing that would have happened to me was the big hot red area would have been undermined and collapsed. Only the electricity stopped it. I talked with a physiology professor about this, and he had two stories, people he knew personally who had stopped snakebite damage with electric shocks. He said that the proteolytic enzymes involved are very large complex molecules, positively charged at one end and negatively charged at the other end. When exposed to high voltage, low amperage current the ends are pulled in opposite directions and the enzymes are torn apart.
One last thing regarding infections being mistaken for spider bites. Anything that will draw out toxins via high osmotic pressure, such as salt or Epsoms salts, will also draw out the toxins from an infection. So those approaches are not contraindicated for MRSA. And if you will dig around a bit, you will find that Bob Beck invented his little box because of an accidental discovery that electrical current stopped bacterial growth in a petri dish. This info has been suppressed, but Bob Beck has put his invention into the public domain and does not sell the boxes so that he can tell people about it. You can find the plans and the boxes and the info online. And for flesh eating bacteria, they are using proteolytic enzymes that are surely similar to those used by recluse spiders and pit vipers, so electroshock may work on those cases too.
EC: Read more feedback about Electric Shock on our Snake Bites remedy page: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/snake_bites.html#ELECTRICSHOCK
I think I have been bitten by a recluse, I am trying to determine if it is a spider bite, or MRDA. After reading about the spider bites on this site: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/spider_bite_brown_recluse_spider_bite/page6_em.htm
It says not to: Do not apply electricity to the area. Anecdotal reports of high voltage electrotherapy from common stun guns have never been shown to be effective in any scientific studies. This can also cause secondary burns and deepen tissue destruction.
Just a thought.
I was recently bitten on the thigh by what I presume to have been a spider (sudden burning ouch - not a boil), and when it started to rapidly gain size and swell on day 3, I checked your site for ideas. I live in Australia, so not a Brown Recluse, but we do have something called a White Tail Spider which I think is somewhat similar. Ironically I live in the bush, but was bitten in a cake shop in town.
I tried the following, in order:-
Potato slices. Felt great, very soothing, but no lasting effect. If I had a child with a non-poisonous wasp sting or ant bite or something similar I think this would cheer them up heaps.
Baking Soda moistened with Cider Vinegar as a poultice. I did this twice and it definitely took the redness out somewhat, but only for a limited time. The area of the swelling was now the size of a bread and butter plate and red with a white outer edge. The centre was the size of a bantam egg, raised again and very red. The two fang holes started to get a squarish, shiny, slightly bruise like sunken area immediately around them and then I started to worry. I planned a trip to the doctor if it were not looking better at the end of day 4.
The electric stimulation thing sounded good, but I wasn't sure how I would go about it. I read Serena's comments (see this page) about the Plantain (Plantago major, also known here as Ribwort), and as I had once cured a horse of Greasy Heel with it decades ago I thought it might be worth a try. On day 4 I happened to be weeding in a paddock with the Plantain growing, so every hour or so I picked a leaf, mashed it up in my fingers and smeared the moist mush across the bite area. At the end I squeezed the last few drops onto the central very red area for good measure. I suppose I had in mind to do the whole thing with the poultice when I came in that evening; I think I was a bit "over" having a spider bite by then and just wanted to get a days work in.
By lunch time it was looking significantly better, much less angry and less painful. Maybe the Plantain, maybe I was just getting over it anyway, I thought. So I stopped putting the Plantain juice on, and to my surprise the bite quite quickly started inflaming again. This effect was dramatic, not just something I maybe felt; my husband could see it too. So I kept on with the Plantain juice.
By day 5 it looked significantly better, but it became obvious that each time I stopped the Plantain treatment the central very red area "leaked" more poison out which then inflamed the larger area again. (You could see it "running" to the inside of my thigh). So I concentrated my juice application on that central area around the bite, and that did the trick. The very centre, which had looked ready to ulcerate, never did, just forming a few tiny scabs. It is now 2 weeks later and I still have a bruise-like mark where the egg sized central area was, but the problem is over. I only had to do the Plantain juice for 3 days, doing it fewer times per day as things improved.
If it had even begun to ulcerate I would have used Hydrogen Peroxide, and probably gone to the doctor too.
I know my plants, so I knew what Plantago major was. (It is a common weed fairly world-wide, although maybe not in the tropics). Make sure you get the right thing; ask someone knowledgeable if you are not sure. It has parallel veining in the leaves - that is, all the veins start together at the base (stem end) of each leaf blade, they all continue parallel along the leaf, (hence "ribwort"), then they all squeeze together again to form the tip of the leaf. The leaves grow in a "bunch" or rosette from a single base, and the "flowers" are fawny brown speckled cream long ovals, one on the top of each thin stem. Do not confuse this with the Banana family Plantain. Again, please ask if you are in any way not sure; you could be putting the juice of something onto yourself that could be FAR worse than the spider bite.
I was willing to experiment with my bite because I was pretty well certain that it was not a poisonous kill-em-stone dead type spider. My husband and I between us have been bitten by Red Backs, Wolf Spiders and Huntsmen, and this was substantially different. Anything as big as a Funnel Web I would have found squashed in my jeans, so that sort of eliminated the two "rush to hospital" jobs. (Obviously also I was still alive at the end of day 1). Use commonsense folks!
By the way: for the horse with the Greasy Heel I used poultices of the mushed up leaf bandaged onto his pasterns. Two days did the trick. Plantain seems like a great herb to me, but I have never read anything much about it. Anyone know any more?
High Voltage, Low Amperage Dc Current
Does the DC current kills only bad bacteria in the body or it will kill both bad and good bacteria in the body? I understand that a healthy adult has about 85 % good bacteria and 15 % bad bacteria in the body.
Best wishes P. Raghavan.
Look for Bread Poultice on the following link for directions. Works best with warm water.
I tried this for my daughter who was bitten and I found out about it a day later when the site was swollen, huge and warm to the touch. I applied the bread, wrapped to her in an ace bandage and this morning when I removed the bandage/bread all had come to the head and drained out. She said it no longer hurt or irratated her.
Vitamin C for Insect Bites and Allergies: I had a spider bite once that swelled on my forearm like a half-egg under the skin. I took 3-4G of ascorbic acid, the cheap Vitamin C from Sams club, about once every hour and a half or so. By dark the swelling was down to maybe 10%. I continued overnight and all day the next day. During that time, while in the yard working, I felt something on my arm. I looked down to see a "fireant" biting feverishly the back of my hand. I assumed there must be something wrong with him as I didn't feel any burning. Another one bit me later with the same results. I only noticed a feeling like something was crawling on me. The wounds never swelled, turned red or itched! It must have been the massive doses of C circulating in my blood.
I estimated I consumed about 40 grams of C over a 24hr period. Normally that much C will give you severe diarrhea and gas! I had neither.
I also take it for severe allergy flareups with great and quick relief, though only last for 2-4 hours, depending on the intensity of the allergen.
Turmeric and Olive Oil
I do know of two remedies that work if you've been biten by a spider or insect and its caused swelling and redness and pain mix some tumeric and olive oil into a paste and apply it on the infected area and it will draw out the venom and reduce the swelling and relieve the pain. This has to be done several times over 7 days. You leave it on and repeat it 2-3 times throughout 7 days and it will be an improvement.