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Posted by Donna (Knoxville, TN) on 10/16/2008
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I'd learned about high voltage, low amperage DC current from an article that had come out in 1986 in Outdoor Life I think it was. We'd bought the issue because we'd had so many goats, cats, and dogs snake bitten.

In 1989 I was bitten by a recluse on the calf, and used meat tenderizer and charcoal for the first 5 days. I'd packed the growing hole with one, leave it in for hours, then wash it out and pack it with the other. The thing that had me scared was that it was doing everything the book said it would do, not only a hole 1/4" deep and 3/8" across, but a hot red raised area 3" across with a starlike effect of redder lines within it. I called a fellow who'd worked at Uchi Pines doing alternative medicine, to ask if I really needed to shock it, and he said it sounded that way. We grounded one side of the bite with a screwdriver from the woven wire fence, then ran a wire from the electrified top wire to the other side, using insulated pliers to hold it. I ran the shocks through the bite area, and it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd feared. The shocks ran only in that small area, more like a little bite than having my whole body shocked. 24 hours later the hole had obviously not grown any more, and in another 12 hours the hot red raised area was nearly normal. The whole thing just faded away, leaving me with a small blue scar.
In 1991 I noticed two little red marks on a knuckle and thought the same thing I'd thought the first time, "Those are just far enough apart to be spider fang marks." Six days went by, and I woke up to a little brown oozy hole in the middle of each pink mark. There was a PT working across the street, so I called and asked if she'd run electrostim on them. She said come on over, and told me that she used to use ultrasound and Betadine on such bites, but as I insisted on electrostim, she flipped a switch and did all 3 at once. The wounds closed up that afternoon.

The next time it happened, it was like some people describe the bites, I got a black spot on my ankle that looked just like someone had dropped silver nitrate on it. It was perfectly even with the surrounding skin, and painless till after about 5 days the surface peeled off. Within a few hours it was really hurting so I used the electrodes from a "Beck Box" on either side, for about 10 minutes. The thing didn't bother me for a week, then it started hurting again, I ran the box longer and hotter and it went away after that. The secretary at the office where I'd borrowed the box used it twice when she had brown recluse bites. We have a Hulda Clark Zapper, but I don't think the voltage is high enough on it. It was not like my other bites, but was equally slow and was working it's way down through the layers.

Then my husband got bitten on the arm and he used his electroacupuncture gadget, grounding on one side of the bite and zapping on the other. A friend got bitten, had the classic nasty brown oozy wound on her leg, and as she had a TENS unit we simply put the pads on either side of the bite and turned it on blast for about 15 minutes. I forget how I treated the last two bites I got, they occurred about a week apart and I didn't let them got very far.
I introduced my chiropractor to the notion of treating recluse bites with his electrostim machine. I had a friend who'd been bitten 3X and had learned to use clay poultices morning and evening to heal them, but then she got a bite on her neck and after 6 days of poultices woke up to swollen glands in her neck and was scared. So that was the first one my DC got to use his machine on, and that was the end of the problem for her.

The one horror story I have witnessed was a friend who went to the dr the same day she was bitten, got on the antibiotics but they didn't do a thing. Her arm swelled up double, and when I heard about it 6 days later, I called immediately and told her to rush over to a DC who would use his electrostim on it. It had eaten a strip on her upper arm an inch wide, 5" long and about 1/8" deep. The wound stopped growing and healed up. She has a horrible scar, but it would certainly kept on eating to the bone had it not been stopped. There are 400 people where she works, they all know about what happened to her and believe me, they and all their friends and relatives will be going to a DC instead of an MD for TX.

The PT who did my 2nd bite told me about a guy who'd been bitten in a very delicate place. The MD's had nothing to offer except to cut out the bite area, which was not in a place where he thought he had anything to spare. The PT, on hearing his story, showed him how to use her machine and had him tow it to the restroom every time he came in for his other tx. She said it saved his marriage. (She also told me about saving her dog which had been snake bitten on a holiday weekend, she applied a TENS unit after he'd suffered for a couple of hours, in 20 minutes he was up dragging it around and wagging his tail. We just use Vit C for animals with snake bite, but we do have a TENS unit just in case. )

I talked with a nurse who works in a wound center, and she was astonished that I know about all these bite cases in which none of their debridement and other medical treatments were necessary. In fact, I was surprised to see that some people do know about the shock treatment. See http://en.allexperts.com/q/General-Surgery-2076/Brown-Recluse-Spider-Bites.htm which also mentions that the venom is "heat labile, calcium dependent, and optimally active at a pH of 7.1." They approved of a home remedy of hot and cold applications.

When I read all the things people have done for what they think are recluse bites, I have several thoughts. First of all, some of them were not recluse bites. I've been bitten my more kinds of bugs than most modern Americans. One thing that will show up in most recluse bites is a stage where there are two small holes, before they grow together and become one large hole. For a day or so after they combine, the hole is often square looking rather than round. Second, some actual recluse bites just got better, because of where the bites were, the person's good circulation and the assistance of salt to draw out toxins, of turmeric to reduce inflammation so the circulation could get in, etc. For example, an old man told me about how his little sister had developed a hole in her leg that ate all the way to the bone. In desperation, their dr had had their mother rip up and old sheet and fill little squares with Epsoms salts. When one was saturated, she pulled it out and stuffed another one in. That healed up the wound, which we can now guess was an early recluse bite. I don't think they were nearly as common before central heating. In my own case, salt and proteoplytic enzymes (in the meat tenderizer) and charcoal did not stop the progression of the bite. The next thing that would have happened to me was the big hot red area would have been undermined and collapsed. Only the electricity stopped it. I talked with a physiology professor about this, and he had two stories, people he knew personally who had stopped snakebite damage with electric shocks. He said that the proteolytic enzymes involved are very large complex molecules, positively charged at one end and negatively charged at the other end. When exposed to high voltage, low amperage current the ends are pulled in opposite directions and the enzymes are torn apart.

One last thing regarding infections being mistaken for spider bites. Anything that will draw out toxins via high osmotic pressure, such as salt or Epsoms salts, will also draw out the toxins from an infection. So those approaches are not contraindicated for MRSA. And if you will dig around a bit, you will find that Bob Beck invented his little box because of an accidental discovery that electrical current stopped bacterial growth in a petri dish. This info has been suppressed, but Bob Beck has put his invention into the public domain and does not sell the boxes so that he can tell people about it. You can find the plans and the boxes and the info online. And for flesh eating bacteria, they are using proteolytic enzymes that are surely similar to those used by recluse spiders and pit vipers, so electroshock may work on those cases too.

EC: Read more feedback about Electric Shock on our Snake Bites remedy page: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/snake_bites.html#ELECTRICSHOCK

Replied by Lianne
Wellington, New Zealand
02/08/2009

Hi, this is a really interesting post, and if the spider bite I received about 2 hours ago doesn't respond to the baking soda and garlic cloves by tomorrow, I'd like to try it. I'm assuming it was a white-tail spider that bit me, not that it matters. However, I have no idea what an electrostim is - is it something that is only available in the States? Or is there some other sort of electro zapper thingie I can rig up at home? Something else I am taking is ledum - a homeopathic remedy usually used for wasp stings, but a friend who was having difficulty getting rid of her spider bite used it with good results.

Replied by Sandy
Charleston, Sc
09/10/2009
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I think I have been bitten by a recluse, I am trying to determine if it is a spider bite, or MRDA. After reading about the spider bites on this site: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/spider_bite_brown_recluse_spider_bite/page6_em.htm

It says not to: Do not apply electricity to the area. Anecdotal reports of high voltage electrotherapy from common stun guns have never been shown to be effective in any scientific studies. This can also cause secondary burns and deepen tissue destruction.

Just a thought.

Replied by Serena
Pikeville, Tn
01/02/2011
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Several years ago I got a brown recluse bite. I had pretty much figured out what it was. I used charcoal poultices on it the first day but was disturbed by a red streak going up my arm (the bite was on the upper forearm near the inside elbow). I went to a doctor who confirmed that it was a brown recluse bite and gave me a prescription for an antibiotic and prednisone. He allayed my fears that it was blood poisoning and the streak was in the lymph system.

I had read an article at my chiropractor about healing a brown recluse bite with electrical acupuncture. I called him and asked if he knew who did that. He did and I got an appointment and had the treatment. He also gave me the homeopathic ledum palustre. In three days the bite was healed, though I still have a small scar where it was. Oh, the doctor also told me "and when it breaks open, use hydrogen peroxide on it. " It never did break open. I also never filled the prescriptions since I knew they would do nothing for the bite.

Since then I learned about plantago major (plantain - a common weed in these parts) healing a brown recluse bite. I had opportunity a year and a half ago to use it after a couple of friends had with great success. I kept a poultice of the crushed leaf on the bite, changing it every 4-6 hours. The bite was healed in 5 days. I had more trouble with the tape that I held the poultice on with (it was on my inside thigh) as it reacted with my skin and caused sores all around the bite. I tried several types of bandaids and tapes and had problems with all of them. It was worth it though to have the bite healed.

Replied by Jan
Wauchope, Nsw Australia
03/29/2012

This follows Serena's thread about the use of Plantago major for spider bites.

I was recently bitten on the thigh by what I presume to have been a spider (sudden burning ouch - not a boil), and when it started to rapidly gain size and swell on day 3, I checked your site for ideas. I live in Australia, so not a Brown Recluse, but we do have something called a White Tail Spider which I think is somewhat similar. Ironically I live in the bush, but was bitten in a cake shop in town.

I tried the following, in order:-

Potato slices. Felt great, very soothing, but no lasting effect. If I had a child with a non-poisonous wasp sting or ant bite or something similar I think this would cheer them up heaps.

Baking Soda moistened with Cider Vinegar as a poultice. I did this twice and it definitely took the redness out somewhat, but only for a limited time. The area of the swelling was now the size of a bread and butter plate and red with a white outer edge. The centre was the size of a bantam egg, raised again and very red. The two fang holes started to get a squarish, shiny, slightly bruise like sunken area immediately around them and then I started to worry. I planned a trip to the doctor if it were not looking better at the end of day 4.

The electric stimulation thing sounded good, but I wasn't sure how I would go about it. I read Serena's comments about the Plantain (Plantago major, also known here as Ribwort), and as I had once cured a horse of Greasy Heel with it decades ago I thought it might be worth a try. On day 4 I happened to be weeding in a paddock with the Plantain growing, so every hour or so I picked a leaf, mashed it up in my fingers and smeared the moist mush across the bite area. At the end I squeezed the last few drops onto the central very red area for good measure. I suppose I had in mind to do the whole thing with the poultice when I came in that evening; I think I was a bit "over" having a spider bite by then and just wanted to get a days work in.

By lunch time it was looking significantly better, much less angry and less painful. Maybe the Plantain, maybe I was just getting over it anyway, I thought. So I stopped putting the Plantain juice on, and to my surprise the bite quite quickly started inflaming again. This effect was dramatic, not just something I maybe felt; my husband could see it too. So I kept on with the Plantain juice.

By day 5 it looked significantly better, but it became obvious that each time I stopped the Plantain treatment the central very red area "leaked" more poison out which then inflamed the larger area again. (You could see it "running" to the inside of my thigh). So I concentrated my juice application on that central area around the bite, and that did the trick. The very centre, which had looked ready to ulcerate, never did, just forming a few tiny scabs. It is now 2 weeks later and I still have a bruise-like mark where the egg sized central area was, but the problem is over. I only had to do the Plantain juice for 3 days, doing it fewer times per day as things improved.

If it had even begun to ulcerate I would have used Hydrogen Peroxide, and probably gone to the doctor too.

I know my plants, so I knew what Plantago major was. (It is a common weed fairly world-wide, although maybe not in the tropics). Make sure you get the right thing; ask someone knowledgeable if you are not sure. It has parallel veining in the leaves - that is, all the veins start together at the base (stem end) of each leaf blade, they all continue parallel along the leaf, (hence "ribwort"), then they all squeeze together again to form the tip of the leaf. The leaves grow in a "bunch" or rosette from a single base, and the "flowers" are fawny brown speckled cream long ovals, one on the top of each thin stem. Do not confuse this with the Banana family Plantain. Again, please ask if you are in any way not sure; you could be putting the juice of something onto yourself that could be FAR worse than the spider bite.

I was willing to experiment with my bite because I was pretty well certain that it was not a poisonous kill-em-stone dead type spider. My husband and I between us have been bitten by Red Backs, Wolf Spiders and Huntsmen, and this was substantially different. Anything as big as a Funnel Web I would have found squashed in my jeans, so that sort of eliminated the two "rush to hospital" jobs. (Obviously also I was still alive at the end of day 1). Use commonsense folks!

By the way: for the horse with the Greasy Heel I used poultices of the mushed up leaf bandaged onto his pasterns. Two days did the trick. Plantain seems like a great herb to me, but I have never read anything much about it. Anyone know any more?

Replied by Tim Mitchell
Australia
11/22/2016

The studies which suggest that the treatment of snake bite with pulsed high voltage low current DC shock as being dangerous or ineffective, simply put are just bad science.

Yes you can cause a burn if you use a stun gun with too much power or leave it in contact with the wound for too long. Using a cheaper lower voltage stun gun / cattle prod / or weed eater spark lead, is perfectly safe when administered in single zap doses. If the current is too high it will cause burns, but low current is supposed to be used and works very well.

An Italian research team was able to show both in vitro and in vivo that the use of low current DC treatment will deactivate the proteins in the snake venom making it permanently inactive.

Do a google scholar search for "Inactivation of Crotalus atrox Venom Hemorrhagic Activity by Direct Current Exposure using Hens' Egg Assay" They did a whole batch of papers on the subject and this is the only really good research out there. It does work and it is safe, just don't be stupid and use too much power for too long or you will get a burn.... in addition to the deactivation of the venom.

Replied by Steve
Nv
11/22/2016

You can actually heal many different pathogenic issues using a simple 6v lantern battery, some lamp wire, and cloth. There is a yahoo group you can join that posts on how to build and use these microcurrent healing devices:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

Replied by P. Raghavan
Virudhunagar, Tn, India
11/25/2016

Does the DC current kills only bad bacteria in the body or it will kill both bad and good bacteria in the body? I understand that a healthy adult has about 85 % good bacteria and 15 % bad bacteria in the body.

Best wishes P. Raghavan.

Replied by Steve
Nv
11/26/2016

Most of the DC energy kills the bad bacteria in the blood stream or wherever you are doing a spot treatments. DC energy does not penetrate into the GI tract very well so will not kill the "good" bacteria in the gut. Blood cells absorb and use this energy for self healing.There are also many benefits to raising the body's energy level using microcurrent. It is said that people who have a cellular microcurrent of .7-.9 microvolts are healthy. Sickness and diseases begin when the microcurrent falls below .5mv DC. Tumors measure about .15 microvolts. There is much research that confirms microcurrent can kill tumors and heal many different types of diseases and pathogens.

The Chinese have known this for thousands of years and call it chi energy. In fact almost every culture on the planet has some type of healing system that raises life force energy. Acupuncture can raise chi levels as well as exercise, good organic fresh food, sunlight, magnetic energy, various forms of energy healing, and of course DC microcurrent. Google will tell you more than you would ever want to know about all of this.


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Posted by Marsha (Jacksonville, Oregon) on 04/09/2006
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I got bit by a brown recluse on my hand. Every day the scab would change color. It would go from slimy green to slimy yellow in the course of only an hour. So everyday I would pull back the scab and soak it in straight hydrogen peroxide. In six months it healed. If I had not done that it could have grown to a very large wound. But the hydrogen peroxide stopped that. Everytime I did soak it would really bubble. I have used this stuff for everything. It works!


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Posted by Jackie (Lawrencevile, GA) on 06/15/2009
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Yesterday, I notice my 3yr old son scratching his leg, so I got close to check his leg, I saw a odd insect bite. It didn't look like a mosquito bite, it was about 2 inch, dark red, swollen & firm all around & it was peeling in the center. I show my husband & told me it was a spider bite. He recognizes it because he's had them before. I never seen a spider bite in my life because I lived in FL before moving up here & these things don't come up as often as they do here in GA. So I used hydrogen peroxide to clean the infection, after that I smeared some honey on it & left it to sit. After several hour I notice the swelling going down. I took him a bath before bed time & I dabbed witch hazel on it. Today, I check to see it's progress & I was relieved to see the result. The redness of the bite was fading, it shrunk & he wasn't scratching it anymore. Thank goodness for home remedies!

EC: Everyone should also look at images of MRSA boils to make sure they don't confuse spider bites for these boils!

Here's the google link : http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=MRSA+boils&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=


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Posted by Jcee (California) on 11/05/2014
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Just used topical iodine (in my case, nascient iodine but have used regular drug store topical iodine as well) on a VERY painful, tiny, swelling spider bite on my toe. Could hardly walk. In about fifteen minutes it was 90% better. One hour later and I actually can't feel it anymore. I think the secret is to use it AS SOON as you get bit if possible.


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Posted by James (Kent, WA/USA) on 02/11/2009
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Miracle Mineral Supplement: This new supplement used at the 15 drop twice a day dose allowed my body to heal itself from five wolf spider bites within two weeks. In Texas one brown recluse bite could not be cured using oral then intravenous anti-biotics and required surgury to remove the infected area. My research found that the hobo, wolf, and brown recluse spider bites, as well as staph and mrsa infections, all propogate in a very similar flesh eating and tissue destroying manner most likely due more to our weakened, overburdened immune systems (because of toxins accumulated from diet,air,water, ect.), and not because bacteria and spider venoms are evolving into newer stronger forms.This supplement is actually a strong chemical called chlorine dioxide and must be prepared in stages according to specific directions outlined in a book by Jim Humble. I am not a doctor yet, and this is not medical advice of any kind, only a testimony that this supplement used properly apparently removes enough toxins from the body so that it may heal itself and should aid in healing needed for any condition.

EC: Read more about MMS here: http://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/MMS.html


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Posted by Nancy (New Mexico) on 07/23/2015
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My husband has been bitten twice by a brown. His first bite was between two toes and as the "SPECIALIST" was not available here for a week, he went to our house and hospital in Denver. Again, the ONLY specialist was not available for a week (all must have been at a convention to learn what to do!!! ). Well, as he was driving to Denver, I hit the Google button and developed a protocol, which by the way relied heavily on my Rife therapy. When he arrived a day &1/2 later, the venom reddened his leg up to the knee. To the newly opened hospital and after 3 hours, everyone had never seen this, several took pictures and gave him an antibiotic, then said he would need to see the out of town specialist. In disgust, we left and I went to work.

Here is the long of it: Slathered the entire leg and foot with straight lavender oil (read it neutralizes the gangrene affect of the venom);

Applied straight basil oil to the wound;

Applied an activated charcoal poultice over the wound and bandaged it (local clinic did give him the kit, which can and should be ordered online);

Then, I made him lie on the couch with the leg elevated, put headsets on the leg attached to my computer download and ran the rife program for brown recluse bite, one frequency at a time.

Well, the next morning the infection had gone down to his ankle. We continued this until he saw the specialist, WHO WAS STUNNED AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HE DID! At his follow-up appointment, a new nurse wanted to know how he healed it (it now was a localizes blister and was cut out). THE SPECIALIST SAID TO MY HUSBAND "TELL HER WHAT YOU DID. TELL HER WHAT YOU DID!!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn.
07/24/2015

HI U NANCY, , , , , , I too have a Plasma Rife Machine that I am using to treat my blood cancer. I would like to correspond with you, if possible.

Deirdre has my e-mail address. Thanks

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Posted by Jackie (Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada) on 03/04/2012

I love this website been checking it out for quite awhile I decided I needed to post. I was bitten by a spider called the Brown Recluse several times my arm swelled up like a balloon. I checked the Canadian sites, I was surprised they are listed in southern part of Ontario. I was quite sick, fever we called ambulance they transported me to the ER I was given antibiotics I should went right away I lingered for 2 days it is now oozing out of the fang holes what I did is apply tree oil to keep it clean then I mixed baking soda sea salt and a strong white vinegar I doused my arm with that mixture every couple of hours. It does take the itch away, it is still so painful. On top I had that terrible flu that is going around. The doctor told me that what I was already doing saved me from blood poisoning. We figured he got in from the garage through the back door or from the bananas we bought frm the supermarket. We sprayed the garage and the back entrances , all vents etc it's rare that we have any spiders in the house now on we will keep the back sprayed plus check the grocery bags etc. Thank you for listening Jackie Mac

Replied by Yen
Texas
03/18/2016

Hi, what are you spraying with? Thanks.


Posted by Carmen (Hiwasse, AR) on 06/24/2009
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I was bitten by a brown recluse on Sat. May 30th. It is now June 24th. I went to the Doctor with in 24 hours. They have me Levaquin for the anitbiotic and a pain killer. Then told me to come back the next day for them to lance the blister.

I chose not to go to the same doctor...but went back to a doctor whom had previously treated a bite from the brown recluse years earlier. He said not to lance the blister..and said he would not be giving me the steroid shot he gave me previously. I had been bitten years earlier on the back by a brown recluse which took 5 months to heal.

Well this time I decided to take the matter into my own hands and found this website. I have been using a mixture of antibacterial salve and baking soda... also used activated chacoal. I have switched between the two and mixed the olive leaf extract with the baking soda. I can say I am almost to the point of no longer having dead tissue..and starting the complete healing process. It has still been a painful process however...I truly believe with out the information the wound would've been deeper and taken months longer to heal...and it was in very soft tissue..the belt line.

Replied by Gean
Salina, KS
06/24/2009

Jim Humble, who developed MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement), says that for brown recluse bites, apply desitin and a band-aid. It de-activates the poison. I have never been bitten by a brown recluse, but I would absolutely love to know if someone has tried this and if it works. I have family who has been bitten (before I knew about the desitin cure) and it's very horrible.

Replied by Dawn
Florida
05/19/2016

I got bitten by a recluse spider on my pinky toe 2 weeks ago and they gave me antibiotics the first one didn't seem to work so they switched it makes me feel sick but I still take it. It's purple, should I go to the ER?

Replied by Angela
Oklahoma
05/20/2016

If it's purple it might not be getting good circulation. I would get looked at if it was me.

Replied by Timh
Ky
05/20/2016

A warm Footbath w/ added one spoon of Epsom Salt will help. A Bentonite Clay poultice will help.

Ask your Dr about using an otc Triple Antibiotic Cream as you cannot tolerate the whole body antibiotics.

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05/20/2016
Replied by Ben
Bremerton Wa
05/19/2016

Brown recluse spider bite is one of the most toxic of venoms known. It is a necrotizing poison meaning it causes the tissues to literally rot away. Very close attention needs given to any spider bite as they can get very serious in a hurry. Many people have lost entire arms or legs due to an uncontrollable infection.

A friend of mine thought he was a tough logger not afraid of a teensie weensie spider. Well 3 days after being bitten he was rushed to the er, a pic line of antibiotics was sent straight to his heart and the doctor said well dude we got a bad case of gangrene going here. Sorry but we are going to have to cut your leg off if we can not get the infection under control

At that point the logger realized exactly how serious a spider bite can be.

43,000 dollars later he walked out of the hospital, the doctor saved his leg.

Fyi if you are in a remote area far from medical care apply full strength dmso to the spider bite several times a day. Dmso has an ability to deactivate the toxins in spider venom

Always seek professional help with spider bites and stay in close contact with your doctor.

Replied by Kary H.
North Carolina
05/23/2016

Tea Tree oil, my husband got bit in his sleep


Posted by Storm (Tempe, AZ) on 05/11/2009
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Arizona recluse spider bite: I read each and every testimonial about spider bites in this very resourceful site. I woke in the middle of the night with an itchy and raised area on my back. I thought it may have been a misquito until I looked in the mirror the next morning. It looked just like the "bull's eye" red rings with white around it as described in some of these paragraphs above. It had a white funnel shaped center and was about the size of a quarter.

I immediately put rubbing alchohol on it and that burned the site. Then I forgot about it for a couple days while busy at work. It continued to weep and itch with a sticky substance at the site. That is when I started to research "spider bites" on the web and found this awesome site. I immediately went to a health food store and purchased some activated charcoal capsules. I made a paste with water and applied it to the site and bandaged it as the charcoal stains. I did this 3 times for 3 days. I also took a couple of capsules of the charcoal by mouth for several days as I felt nauseous and it helped calm my stomach. Then I read where someone mentioned getting a permanent "tatoo" impression from the charcoal so I switched to baking soda. I could feel it working immediately into the site. I used the baking soda covered with a bandage for another 3 days and saw the redness start to disappaint for the 1st time. The size of the bite never got any bigger but the redness would not subside for about 10 days or so. Then I started to use an organic "witch hazel" from the health food store that was labeled as a "medicated superhazel". It was a "topical pain reliever" that included aloe vera, Calendula, Clove, Grapefruit seed, Peppermint oil and witch hazel. It felt so right and good. I saw dramatic results within hours. The redness started to tone down and the next day the "bull's eye" circle was smaller. It has continued to improve each day dramatically and after 3 days of using this super witch hazel it is almost disappeared. The center has formed a dark scab that is tiny and the surrounding bite site has almost disappeared entirely. I used the witch hazel with a cotton ball and applied it approx. 3-4 times, daily. I will continue to use this until it is gone. If I had to do it over again I think I would eliminate the charcoal poltice as it is very messy and stains everything. I think the baking soda does the same trick of pulling out the poison. I would take the charcoal, orally, though as I do believe it soaks up the venom in your system. I waited too long before starting the process and think if I used the baking soda in combination with the medicated witch hazel it would have improved the 1st week. I am going into week 3 and feel really good that I found this web site. Thanks everyone who has added comments.


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Posted by Redclary (Oklahoma City, Ok) on 08/11/2012
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I have used the absolute best remedy for spider bites that I have seen in 62 years. My granddaughter was bitten on the back of her thigh and was scratching yet didn't know what it was. The bite was swollen and had a red infection about 3 in. Around the bite. I put oil of oregano around it and put a large bandaid on it. The next morning I checked it and all of the infection was gone with just the small red bite mark left. She showered and we put another large bandaid with oil of oregano on the pad on. The next day it only had a small darkened area aroung the bite. This bite cleared up without any scar at all.

I was able to use oil of oregano again when I was bitten. My husband said the bite was infected with red area around the bite about 4 in. wide. Again we used the oil of oregano and a large bandaid. It took 4 days to clear but I had no itching, infection, or scaring to deal with.

Replied by Aromatherapy Teacher
Usa
05/15/2016

Oregano oil has many broad antibiotic capabilities. Get a medical or therapeutic grade for body use.

However, straight oregano oil can "burn" the skin - especially for sensitive areas, sensitive people, young and senior people. You can prepare the skin for the oregano oil by putting some pure vegetable oil on first. Olive oil from the kitchen is good - or any other available oil from your kitchen. Most massage oils are also good.

THEN apply the oregano oil. Go slow - start with a drop or two to be sure your skin won't react to the oil.

Alternatively, you can mix some oregano oil with the olive or other carrier oil. Then apply it to the site.

Avoid eyes and mucus area of the bodies.

IF you do develop a sensitive or burning skin reaction to the oregano oil, use the olive (or similar) oil on the site to dilute the oregano oil. Essential oils cannot be washed off with water. They must be diluted onsite with a carrier/vegetable oil.

Medical/therapeutic grade lavender oil can be used about anywhere on the body without causing any discomfort - for most people.

If you are new to essential oils, best to test a small area first.

Most people can also comfortably and safely apply essential oils to the BOTTOM of the feet.

Differing schools of aromatherapy have different ideas and teachings on where and how to apply essential oils. Know they are strong plant/spirit medicine and do work. Test which approach works on your body by starting slowly and observing your own reactions.

What works on your biology may or may not work on someone else.


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Posted by Bob (Filer, Idaho) on 12/25/2016
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One tablespoon coconut oil, 4 drops of pure oregano essential oil 100 percent, several (2-4 it stains clothing can be left out) drops of turmeric diluted, mix .. brush teeth, apply to interior of nose to fight colds, apply to hands a.m. as infection fighter at public places, after a brown recluse spider bite .. puts brakes on cellular degeneration immediately .. follow up with chili pepper gel caps after any spider bite .. stroke or heart attack in next two days. Stuff E.R. never dreamed could happen - herbs weak and ineffective - you take life flight I'll take herbs.


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Posted by Gina (Pueblo, Co) on 04/05/2015
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I have treated several brown recluse bites, both personally and professionally. First, a brown recluse bite looks and acts different than other spider bites, but the remedies that work on them will also work on less venomous bites.

A brown recluse bite will begin to blister and turn purple/black around the bite within a matter of minutes to hours. The black area is usually quite large (1-12 inches across- not usually as small as 1/4 inch) and indicates the area that is being affected by the venom. This is not infection, so antibiotics will have no effect on it. The venom acts to kill the tissue, which will slough off in a layer or chunk, leaving a large open wound. The various remedies mentioned in this post include various items that purport to draw out the venom. The most effective of these, I have found, is the potato poultice.

The easiest and most effective method I have found is to use a starchy potato (Russett, Idaho, or the like. Do not use a waxy potato, like a red or gold potato). Peel the potato or scrub it to get the dirt off. Use a grater to shred the potato like you are making hash browns. Take a handful of the wet potato shreds and place them into a piece of thin cloth, like a handerchief and tie it shut (use a rubber band or twist tie). Use a bit of alcohol on a cotton ball and scrub the bite to break the blister open and disinfect the surface. Place the potato filled cloth on the bite and secure it in place by whatever means necessary. Leave on for several hours, until the potato begins to dry. Discard the old potato where it cannot be eaten by any animals (it can kill them) and repeat with fresh potato. You should notice the purple area fade and get smaller until it is gone, over the course of a day or two. Keep repeating until the purple is all gone. If you stop early, the remaining purple may still slough off. If you see streaks of red, it indicates infection as well as venom so you may need to see a doctor.


Posted by April (Salt Lake City, Utah) on 09/25/2011
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I was bitten several days ago by what we believe was a Hobo spider, it's similar to a brown recluse. As I am one who believes in and practices wholeistic, preventative healthcare, my first reaction was to seek help there. From the following experience, I learned that you should use a combination of folk remedies BUT also a small subdermal shot of steroid to prevent further complications which may lead to a more severe situation.

MY STORY... At day 3 after the two bites, we began noticing some disturbing changes in the bites. They grew from the size of a pencil eraser to a nickel/quarter size and became blistery with a raw fleshy look and with a dark center. I began researching on the web and came across a very interesting article about how veterinarians will treat toxic spider bites on horses by injecting Dexamethasone {a steroid} in small doses around the site of the bite. The article went onto say that vets who know enough about poisonous spider bites also use this same procedure on themselves. With this printed article in hand, I went to an emergency instacare-clinic and was seen by a Dr. who was known for his treatment of skin ailments & rashes ect... He looked at the bites and suggested only a topical steroid. I mentioned that it had doubled in size overnight and that I would prefer to have the shots. He refused. I asked why and he said, "I just won't do it, I don't have Dexamethasone in the clinic on hand, and even if I did I wouldn't do it because anytime you inject anything in the skin it can cause a problem."

Well, the poisonous spider's venum and bacteria was now eating my flesh started the problem, certainly from the evidence stated in the article a small steroid shot couldn't make things much worse. He tried to placate me and said, "I could be wrong but I doubt it, if it gets worse by tomorrow you could always come back in. I chuckled inside, come back in pay another $50 00 and not have you do anything different than what you are willing to do right now!

I had read several senarious on the web of this very thing happening because many doctors don't have the answers. I filled the topic steroid ointment that he prescribed went home put it on as directed. The next morning the bites had grown even larger, much more blistering was occuring and you could see where the initial bites were the flesh was sinking in {cratering}. My husband who has a medical background took one look and was surprised at what was happening even with the strong steroid cream. We found someone who would give the shot and I began wrapping sliced potatoes on my leg to draw out the venom. I changed them almost every 40 minutes for the first evening and through out the night I changed twice. After about 5 hours you could see that the bites were no longer growing and were healing. We were both surprised. I wanted to avoid taking an antibiotic if possible which I know would have been the course if I had not stopped the direction we were headed. I have included the link for the "article" below, it is impressive how many people have been helped by this simple, non-dangerous approach but doctors don't know about it. I believe that there are times when a combination of folk medicine and prescription drugs are the best path. After reading many stories of bites that took months, 3 to 4 to heal and close, I don't think you want to mess around with toxic spider bites.

HERE IS THE LINK: http://www.badspiderbites.com/spider-bite-treatment/


Posted by Lynn (Windsor, Canada) on 06/28/2008
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Got 4 brown recluse spider bites on my arm while cleaning our shed. After 3 days went to Dr. and was given antibiotics to combat any other infection that might happen (I'm diabetic)...but Dr. said nothing can be done about the venom. 2 wounds were size of 1/2 dollar, 2 size of dime. Blistering and oozing and scabs (2 were black)occured and new blisters formed (no infection just clear fluid oozing) Did have 3 new sites of blister form possibly from the oozed fluid spreading the toxin. These new sites are not bites. Am now covering wounds with large bandaids.By day 5 tried topical creams, baking soda paste (not at the same time). While they kept the wounds from getting bigger they did not make it smaller or look any different. Found your website and am now doing potato poltice. Did break blisters and got as much scab off as possible before putting potato slices on. It is working, hooray!! And in only a few hours. Been a week looking for something that works. Right now the wounds have lost the redness, puffiness and don't feel warmer than the rest of me. Will let you know how I am in a few days. Was really worried as these bites were not healing and slowly getting worse. Will try salt tomorrow (maybe salt the potato slices, eh!).

Replied by Lynn
Windsor, Canada
06/30/2008

Hi again. My 4 spider bites are much improved. Did try salt on potato slices on 2 bites and plain potato slices on the other two. No difference in results. Have since cleaned bite wounds and redid all sites of blisters for overnight. It is amazing...great results. This is day 9 since getting biten and the bites are now healing and show no sign of still having venom. I'm sure the Dr's antibiotic has warded off any other type of infection also. I am so relieved! After 2 1/2 days of doing the potato slices (first for a few hours and then 2 nights of leaving them on) to see amazing results and healing I am thrilled. Hope this helps someone else.


Posted by Jason (Atkins, AR) on 06/09/2008
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I got a spider bite on the back of my arm and in just a few days my arm was swelled and I had a big knot with a big white, yellow, greenish, center. I got on the earth clinic site and seen to scrap the top cut a potato and put on it. I did and was amazed at how fast it pulled all of the junk out of my arm. The potato is the only way to go in my opinion. Thanks yall are a life saver.

EC: Glad to hear the remedy worked.  However, we still have to warn folks to be careful that a spider bite isn't, in fact, Staph or MRSA.  We know two people here in Atlanta in the past month who misdiagnosed staph infections for spider bites!!



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