Neuropathy Remedies

Hepatitis C and Neuropathy Link

Posted by Diane (Sherborn,ma.) on 05/01/2014

I'm hoping either Ted or Bill can chime in on this one. It's a rather startling revelation to me and I'm betting to those suffering the same conditions...I spoke to my liver Dr. yesterday in a hospital in Boston and she said that in the over 2,000 patients she has treated, she has never heard of hepatitis c causing neuropathy with one of her patients. I've been led to believe that hep-c caused my neuropathy, as I don't have diabetes and have been tested 3 times...and never had chemo.

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)
05/01/2014

Hi Diane...In a study published in the BMJ in 2003 it was found that varying degrees of peripheral neuropathy, in the form of cryoglobulinaemia, commonly occurred in patients with Hep C. They found that 40 of 51 Hepatitic C patients had this form of peripheral neuropathy.

Peripheral Neuropathy in Hepatitis C

Although the numbers may vary, if you type "Hepatitis C neuropathy" in Google Search you will find many other instances and confirmations that this form of peripheral neuropathy commonly occurs together with Hep C as well as in other diseases like leukemia and pneumonia.

In other studies it has also been suggested that this form of peripheral neuropathy is caused by auto-antibody response arising due to a heavily stressed immune system because of the HCV factor. Nevertheless, cryoglobulinaemia is still referred to in medical research as an idiopathic disease.

idiopathic = completely clueless as to the real cause of the disease

Treatment of cryoglobulinaemia is normally entirely palliative(treat the symptoms) using analgesics and anti-inflammatory drugs, since there appears to be no apparent cure.

I also think that your liver doctor needs to open a book or go on a Hep C refresher course or perhaps she just needs to renew her dusty but outdated Standard of Care Manual.

Replied by Diane
(Sherborn, MA)
05/02/2014

Bill, Thank you...thank you...thank you...Man O man...I can't believe this Dr.didn't know this...I will send her the Google information so she can see for herself...I should say that this is not the first time I have been mis-informed by the medical community..Beware readers...They are not the Gods they think they are...

Lastly Bill...It it a safe assumption that if I get rid of hep-c, my poly peripheral neuropathy will go far away??? Here's hoping...and thank you again very very much...Blessings to you and your family...

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)
05/03/2014

Hi Diane...Yes, for the most part, the peripheral neuropathy is caused by the Hep C. As I've said, modern medical research has no understanding of this form peripheral neuropathy caused by Hep C but Ted has stated that in certain cases of peripheral neuropathy the cause may be due to pathogenic infection -- usually of mycoplasma or fungal origin -- although I would not rule out viral infection as well. The Hep C neuropathy arises because of a heavily weakened liver, immune system and blood transport system which is ultimately caused by the Hep C virus. This allows poisons to accumulate in the blood due to an inefficient excretory system(liver). This also lowers the immune protection and makes cell oxygenation inefficient thus allowing other pathogens into the body to cause separate though related Hep C problems such as peripheral neuropathy, fatigue and joint pain.

Replied by Diane
(Sherborn, Ma)
05/04/2014

Bill, I was put on Atenolol in 2003 because my father had heart issues at my age-- big mistake on my part... I wound up with a resting pulse of 160 got horrendous cold extremities followed by a radio frequency cather ablation operation (4 1/2 hours)...They fixed my heart but I kept the terrible cold extremities which I never had before...Then in 2012 I had a respiratory infection and had TWO cycles of Cipro...then 6 months later I got stage 4 chirossis (I also have hep-c)...and my peripheral neuropathy came on terrible within a week of when I was diagnosed with stage 4 chirrosis...Would you hazzard a guess what the original cause of my neuropathy was so I may be able to address it...I have tried everything out there..Could the antibiotcs cause the neuropathy or maybe the Atenolol? Or the hep-c? Just looking for an educated guess as my doctors have no clue...thank you...again and again..

Replied by Nanowriter
(Hotspot, Texas)
05/05/2014

You may want to look into how these meds deplete necessary nutrients. A quick search turned up CoQ10 depletion from the atenolol and global B vitamin depletion as well as zinc from the Cipro.

CoQ10 depletion has been associated with statins and the very bad side effects many people suffer from them. You may want to see if any of the CoQ10 deficiency symptoms line up with yours, especially the ones that began after the atenolol. If not, cold extremities are a classic sign of iodine deficiency/hypothyroid.

The worsening of your viral infection (hepatitis) after the Cipro is interesting in light of the fact that your B vitamins may have been depleted because I do wonder how much the b's help us with viral defense, especially of herpes viruses, which travel on nerves.

Anyhoo, CoQ10 is easy to get as a supplement and you can get b vitamins through brewers yeast and liver or as supplements as well.

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Phillipines)
05/05/2014

Hi Diane...Both the Atenolol and the Cipro can cause neuropathies. Their many side effects are listed here and here on drugs.com and these lists are huge. Please notice that Atenolol can also cause cold hands and feet as well as racing heart. Cipro contains fluorine, a poison for the body, and fluorine depletes the thyroid of iodine -- which can also cause loss of energy, cold extremities, brain fog or pins and needles and a host of other problems.

Atenolol is a beta blocker that is supposed to slow down the heart beat but in many instances does exactly the opposite. Beta blockers just treat the symptoms, they do not cure the core reasons for heart problems.

I also have nothing good to say about Cipro, which is a fluoroquinolone antiobiotic that also also contains fluorine as well. Everyone knows my low opinion of anti-biotics, but taking an anti-biotic that contains fluorine as well will have even worse effects upon the body -- and to me this is completely crazy. I must also add that Cipro and other fluoroquinolone antibiotics have also been linked to severe liver and renal toxicity -- see this link. At a guess, I would say that that this liver and renal toxicity may well be at least be partially linked to the high fluorine content of this drug.

To get rid of the fluorine and to help with the cold extremities in your body I would take a liquid kelp extract on a daily basis. The thyroid controls the temperature and metabolic rate of the body, so if you improve the thyroid then you improve its ability to properly control body temperature at the extremities. Removing the fluorine will take a while because fluorine is normally absorbed and stored in the bones and teeth as well as in the glandular regions of the body.

Because of all the above reasons, I cannot exactly say with any certainty what has caused your neuropathy because, as well as Hep C itself being a cause, because there are too many other possible drug related side-effects that could also have caused it.

And the next time your doctor gives you any pills to take -- go straight to drugs.com and look up their side-effects and THEN decide whether you want to take the pills or not.

Replied by Diane
(Sherborn, MA)
05/06/2014

Hi Bill, Thank you again for your wonderful feedback. I indeed do now check before I take any drugs...

How much liquid kelp extract should I use or could I use Lugols iodine as a substitute? Or will the extra minerals in kelp help more than Lugols?

Three times I was prescribed drugs that would have put me in anaphylectic shock. I didn't recognize the name because the dr's used generic names which fooled me. My pharmacist caught it twice and I caught it once...AND the dr's have my records for things I am allergic to.

I'm wondering if Borax might help me as well? My shooting pains are throughout my entire body, even my eyes get needle stabs in the middle of the night. It started with cold extremities and now I have electric shocks, stabbing needle pains and terrible cramps in my legs and everywhere else...Right now I cannot move my toes as they cramp terribly and are turning black. 24/7 pain...I DO indeed thank you from the bottom of my heart. I would not know where else to turn to as my dr's said there's nothing else they can do.Much, much blessings.

Replied by Bee
(New York, US)
05/06/2014

Hi, Wow I am so sorry you have these side effects and all................... How did you get off the drugs if you did?

I too never read what I was taking nor questioned the doctor.... but now I read everything and question all and research... but if I do ask a doctor they just seem to say what they know and think is best but it appears it's trial and error and practicing medicine..and they rarely listen to their patients..

Replied by Diane
(Sherborn, MA)
07/19/2014

HI Bill, Thanks for the feedback with regard to borax and neuropathy...I would also like to know how one takes borax? I've read to take 1/8th teaspoon or 1/4 teaspoon. I've also read that you should take a break from it after 5 days and also after 3 days. I also read that you can take it for 3 weeks and then stop a week. Would like you opinion on this...Thank you much

Replied by Bill
(San Fernando, Philippines)
07/21/2014

Hi Diane...Normally, for women, you would take 1/8 tspn of borax in a liter of water and drink this liter of borax water throughout the day. You should take this remedy for 5 days and then have a rest from the protocol for at least 2 days in a cycle like that. For men, the dose should be 1/4 tspn borax in a liter of water.

If you wish to take a week's break from the borax protocol then that's also OK but when I used borax water for my own candida problems I took it on a 5 days on, 2 days off basis for 9 months without a break or a problem.

Replied by C.f.r.
(Texas)
06/18/2017

How much CoQ10 to replinish after taking Atenolol?


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Posted by Steve (Las Vegas, Nv) on 03/30/2013
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That's great the laser worked for you, Alice. My brother has some diabetic neuropathy and has gotten good results using a laser therapy pen. He says it helps with other aches and pains as well.


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Posted by Alice (Oro Valley, Az, Usa) on 03/29/2013
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I have neuropathy in my toes and the balls of my feet and diagnosis said it was creeping back up my lower legs and had some loss of feeling in my geet and the bottoms of my feet. I had gotten pretty much rid of this before using vitamins. But this time it wasn't really working. I was trying to get back on a vegan diet which should have helped, but I was still failing and eating meat. I was looking for help until I could let the diet help. For over 2 years I haven't taken the statins that may have caused or contributed to it. Also, I am overweight.

In any case, my toes and feet were swelling and turning angry red, and often felt like they were on fire. My naturopath was out of town, but she emailed me and said since there was swelling she would send me to the ER or 24 hour clinic, as it might be heart related. Not wanting to expose myself to the purveyors of statins, stents, and quadruple bypass surgury, I researched further, looking for relief. An ad on earthclinic mentioned laser therapy for peripheral neuropathy symptom relief, so I clicked on it. Found a practitioner near home, and made an appointment.

He said the swelling was probably connected to the neuropathy, and that treatment might help but he couldn't guarantee it and that it was not a cure for neuropathy, but a reliever of symptoms, and that it would probably take some time to see results. He prescribed 6 weeks of treatment at a price I could not afford at this time.

I went back online hoping to maybe find Mexican doctors that could do it for less, just like Mexican dentists have repaired my teeth for way less. Didn't find any, but I did find ads for low level lasers that were way less powerful than the one the doctor had. People buy these to help their horses, dogs, and other animals. They also use these lasers on themselves. I had been told these weaker lasers don't work.

I have read there is zero change using lasers, period.

I bought one for $199. The first time I used it I saw immediate improvement, with swelling going down. 3rd treatment even more improvement.

I got the laser last Saturday. Today, Friday, less than a week later, with 4 total treatments and my feet are nearly normal. The neuropathy numbness is still there in my feet, but it seems to be getting better too.

I'm still getting prickles, but I remember when I got rid of the neuropathy before, that I had to go through some prickles and electric zaps just like I experienced when I was getting the neuropathy.

But the difference is like a miracle.


Micro Current Therapy

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Posted by Xxx (Yyy, Zzz) on 10/23/2012
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Here's a heads up for you the reader...

I heard about "Frequency Specific Micro Current "therapy from my chiropractor... I looked into it and called about 10 therapists around the country... 8 told me that they could cure peripheral neuropathy in ONE treatment... I had 14 treatments lasting 2 hours (28 hours).. IT CHANGED NOTHING!

I also had 14 treatments 2 hours each (28 hours) for hepatitis-c and had my enzymes checked at the end and they went UP! By just a few point however... Maybe it will work for you...however!


MSM

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Posted by Diane (Sherborn, Ma) on 01/09/2015
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Better But With Side Effects

I just started tasking MSM for my neuropathy pain at 1 gram at night before bed. (I've seen recommendations of 6-20 grams a day.) Coincidentally I just started having diarrhea and black stools. Hard to believe it's from that low dose. However, I do have hep-c..

Any suggestions would be welcomed.. I certainly will stop MSM for several days and see what the result is.

Thank you. BTW the MSM is the FIRST thing that has helped with my neuropathy pain.

Replied by Timh
(KY)
01/10/2015
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D: This is common condition called "herx" or "dieoff" reaction. The MSM is detoxing pathogens and dead tissue accumulated in your gallbladder and colon.


Advice is to continue at this small dose (when it's best to make it to the bathroom) and slowly increase the dose as you notice less discharge and lighter color.


If you can get up to 1 or 1.5 grm 3x per day that would be good progress and I don't recommend going above that, but instead take 1grm Vit-C w/ 1grm MSM 3x day which should be sufficient detox w/ only these two nutrients.

Additional remedies will be necessary to treat the hep-c or the condition will repeat unless you stay w/ the MSM/C. Here is a link to the E.C. hep-c page https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hep_c.html


MSM
Posted by Janet (Kendal, U.k) on 08/19/2011
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My partner also suffered with PN due to his diabetes, he was already taking ACV and CO, this seemed to help his blood sugars , but not the pain.

However literally after the first dose of MSM he got instant relief, he continues to take it but rather on an if and when need basis. Also we read that LECITHIN can help, which he also takes, daily, due to a relative short shelf life. He is so much better.!!! Oh I hope this helps , any one that suffers this puts up with so much.:(.


MSM, Lecithin

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Posted by Janet (Kendal, U.k) on 10/26/2011
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My partner too suffered with neuropathy, that was till we discovered MSM and Lecithin from his first dose he got almost instant relief. And after only a month or so has never had it back. Hope this helps.


Multiple Remedies

Posted by Diane (Sherborn, MA) on 12/29/2013

I would like to know if anyone with stabbing electric shocks from peripheral neuropathy has cured/stopped them. I get them all over my body, feet, ankles, knees, hips, shoulders, fingers even in my eyes and the top of my head. They're so strong sometimes I almost black out. I actually see stars or a white light. I get them 24/7 My doctor said last week there's nothing more he can do. I have been on fentenyl patches, morphine, B-12 sublingual amd patches. ALA at all strengths, various kinds of magnesium at all strengths. Thank you for reading. Many blessings

Replied by Timh
(Ky, Usa)
12/30/2013
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Diane: I have had those symptoms for many yrs but w/ much less severity; mine was directly related to heavy metal poisoning. You can purchase a lab kit to test if you have any heavy metals by submitting a simple hair sample thru the mail. Mercury in specific is very toxic to the nervous system.

Replied by Mt
(Ottawa, Canada)
12/29/2013

Check your D vitamin level. Read about vitamin D influence on sleep and the effects of bad sleep on body recovery. You can Google apnea and vitamin D deficiency for a few articles.


Neuropathy Remedies

Posted by Bernice (New Orleans ) on 07/31/2013

Hi in need of help for neuropathy. My name is Bernice. I had back surgery in August 18 2008 for a herniated bulging disc, L4, L5, which left me with my right foot numb from the knee down. After a while, my foot came back to life somewhat. It was still numb and would burn, but was bareable. Over a course of five years with a limp I have learned to walk normaly again with exercise. Neurotin and lyrica did not help and I still had some back pain. This past May, I had to undergo another back surgery. After this surgery, my right foot has become worse. I get burning and tingling pains. It is still numb, even more so. My doctor has told me that it will take more time to heal. I'm 51 years old. I would love to know if anyone has any advice and/or remedies to help.


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Posted by Joanne (Vancouver, Wa) on 12/02/2015
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Warning

I got Peripheral Neuropathy from an overdose of B vitamins! Be careful with them. They really messed me up. Vitamin B has been said to help with PN but if you get too much it can cause it. The tingling I was feeling was from too much Niacin also. Called the Niacin flush. Doc told me to go off of B supplements and within a few days my zapping was gone. It's been 2 weeks off of them now and all has recovered except I still have a thick feeling in the balls of my feet. I am now trying the ALA remedy and so far it is helping but it could be also that I am not on the B supplement anymore.

Replied by Megan
(Usa)
04/04/2016

B6 people!!! B6 toxicity happening in small amoounts all over the world!!


Oxygen Therapy

Posted by Rita (Wareham, Ma.) on 04/28/2013

Hi Bill from the Phillipines. I am a newcomer (3 months) to this site. This is my first post. I have terrible peripheral neuropathy. I was told that www.theoriginalhomozon.com would help me. I just went trough a 3 weeks trial of arginine and the other amino acid recommended by Dr. Louis Ignaro on his site... 6000 mgs of argine a day and 1000 mgs of L-Citrulline... I was on this for 3 weeks and it set me bak 1 1/2 years. I can hardly walk and excrutiating pain. The supplements on Homozon.com are not cheap and I would like your opinion. Thank you very much and blessing to you.

p.s. Forgot to mention that I also have hep-c and have tried every protocol including BHT and only made my heart race 100BPM and every protocal for P.N. I have spent about $10,000.00 on supplements and am getting nowwhere and am getting broke as well. Thx again.

EC: Please note, the mentioned website appears to us to be untrustworthy in the extreme.

Replied by Nolongersad
(Queensland, Australia)
04/29/2013

Hi there, just reading your post and felt I wanted to comment about your periphal neuropathy. My husband also had this, started with the soles of feet and pain/ burning. He was diagnosed with POEMS disease. This is quite rare but maybe a visit to the G.P is needed. Most doctors have never heard of it so maybe read up on it first. His diagnosis took 3 years.

Replied by Rita
(Wareham, Ma)
04/30/2013

I may have been unclear on the previous post. What I meant to say was I have spent $10,000.00 on supplements from other sources. I was trying to see if Bill from the Philipines knows anything about that site before I get involved. Thx and sorry if I created any confusion. It's sort of a new concept and I am skeptical of anything until it's been proven not just take their word for it...

Replied by Tiny Dancer
(Dayton, Oh)
05/01/2013

Try B12 "PATCHES"..... it worked for me and is still working.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
05/02/2013

Hi Rita--Blackstrap Molasses is a rich source of vitamins and minerals. It is also an excellent source of B vitamins. A nutrition almanac emphasizes taking B vitamins as a whole because if you take just one, you cause a deficiency in the others so if a B-12 patch is being used a TBP of BSM would very beneficial. The B vitamins can also reduce pain.

Binders and fillers of vitamins, supplements and medications cause more trouble than is being recognized. They can cause more pain than the active ingredient is helping. I learned over twenty years ago that I cannot ingest the gelatin capsule without causing problems. Another culprit was in my table salt. That tiny amount used to cause me excruciating sciatica. The flowing/anti-caking agent in the spices are another thing to watch out for. This has been a result of piecemeal learning for over twenty years. I'm just sharing what I have learned, applied and what worked for me.

I will add that I've had multiple head, neck and back injuries from horses, cars and hurried missteps. Since I have using food and spices as my medicine, with better results, even my PCP is impressed and after looking at an MRI, the MD for the head and neck traumas wondered why I was not in so much pain. He had me go to neck specialists questioning whether I should have surgery to no avail. I just wish I had learned what I know now long ago. That's what makes me sad.

Both of my babies were breech but only one was a caesarean. Learning how to eat to avoid pain has helped the bowel difficulties, but I wish I had known this twenty-nine years ago because there is damage that cannot be repaired.


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Posted by Candy (Indiana) on 12/18/2021
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For Neuropathy Pain:

Take 250mg pantothenic acid a day.


Polyneuropathy Remedies

Posted by Hartrose33 (Lansing, Mi) on 01/05/2014

Do you know what I can do for painful Polyneuropathy? I am not diabetic and the only thing the Doc's give me are pain meds. Please let know as soon as you can.

Replied by Mike 62
(Denver, Colorado)
01/05/2014

Hartrose33: Google daily strength raw vegan diet for neuropathy. Take the hawaiin spirulina and chlorella in a 2:1 ratio. Whole Foods in Lansing has whole trade bananas at 60c a lb. These are organically grown without the costly organic certification. Most of the nutrients are in the peel. You can make soothies from 4 peels per day. They have grass fed liver. this is very high in b vitamins. You can take 3og/day with 5000 iu d3 or the a to d ratio is too much, 4oz/day raw grass fed hamburger, and 3 raw pastured vital eggs/day, 1 tsp. flax oil, green smoothies from organic baby leaves, high in b vitamins and growth factors, and raw honey. They have bee pollen in the fridge. Soak for 24 hours in an acidic juice before taking. Eat 80% carbs from fruit and honey, 10% raw protein, and 10% fat per calorie. 1/2 the fat is saturated. God's Goodies are the raw whole foods that He gives his lovable creatures because He wants them to be well and happy so they can adore creation.


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Posted by Delores (Kansas City, Mo) on 05/14/2013
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Art/Vancouver/R-lipoic acid: I tried Art's protocol for neuropathy. He recommended 500 mgs 3/day...I got up to 700 mgs once a day and woke up with calf cramps on both legs front and back. From 4:00AM to 6:00AM screaming calf cramps. Maybe I'm using the wrong brand (natrol)? They do seem to differ a bit.

Replied by Greg
(Alameda)
07/29/2016

R-alpha lipoic acid is the best form to use. Alpha lipoic acid has both S & R. R is produced naturally in the body and S is not.


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