Mold and Black Mold Exposure

Thanks to everyone for the info, and mostly for the good humor. When I get days as bad as today, I stay home from work, as I lose all sense of humor and feel like I want to belt somebody. My mother used to drink ACV (straight!) for various infections, and after reading all your testimonials, I decided maybe I'd try some for my respiratory problem. I am getting desperate, as no OTC or prescribed medications are helping. I've had a chronic, violent cough which sometimes results in vomiting, and almost always in loss of urinary control, caused from living in a toxic mold-infested apartment after Hurricane Ike (and this was one I moved to in order to get out of one that flooded). In short, I have been coughing since January of 2009. The doctors don't seem to want to think of my problem in terms of the mold exposure - not sure why they are resistant to that - so they've tried (unsuccessfully, but expensively) treating me with asthma and allergy medications. Today I got some N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) from the health food store, and am hoping that will give me some relief. Sleep would be nice, too. After reading many of your comments, I thought I should report that drinking ACV immediately caused me to BECOME congested, where I hadn't been before. It could be that it's not the thing to take for a mold infection (some hint of that on the mold forum, which I read AFTER I drank the ACV!). Thanks, better breathing, and best wishes to all.

In response to the mold problem: You must kill the mold/fungus that resides inside of you. You must starve, kill,and remove.

#1.Fact. Sugar FEEDS mold and fungus inside us.

#2. Corn and wheat feeds them as well. Oil of oregano kills, Put as many drops as you can fit into a gelatin capsule. The taste is awful. But not when you take it like this. Take two capsules of this 3 times a day, till bottle is gone, remembering to stay OFF THE SUGAR, CORN and WHEAT. Mayo clinic findings has determined that there is nothing stronger to kill mold, fungus, bacterial and viral infections. i know this works. Check out Doug Kaulfmans web site. Garlic kills pathogens too. Research!!! many things kill these bastards. It may be essential to rotate. Garlic for 1 week. And I mean RAW, chopped up garlic,(with food in your tummmy before swallowing).etc.

Mold Toxicity and Chlorella: Once you no longer live or work in a moldy building, you will still have the neurotoxoins circulating in your body. The best way to remove them is to take a dose of chlorella (algae) 30 min before each meal, and the timing matters.

Hi,

According to Paul Pitchford's 'healing with whole foods' the energy of Chorella is warming and doesn't cause or contribute to damp energetically speaking.

I'm on the colder side and don't find it cooling at all. I'm an acupuncturist and I've also suggested my clients who are on the energetically 'cold' side use it too and they have all found it helpful and not at all cooling.

I have used GSE in the past for candida but I'm looking forward to using it for other things. I live where mold is a problem so I make a mixture of 20 drops GSE, 2 cups water, a few drops tea tree oil and a few drops lavender. I spray it on walls, furniture and it works great. I also put some in my dishwater-where I live there's no water lines to it's just rainwater in a big tank. The GSE helps with any bugs that may be there.

Do your homework on a spore-forming bacteria called Bacillus Thuringiensis. There is quite a lot of research on this organism. Here is one study entitled:

Antifungal activities of Bacillus thuringiensis isolates on barley and cucumber powdery mildews

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18167458/

I was very sick in 2005 from mold, arsenic and nickel. I got 70% well, but after doing my own stem cells in Dec of 2019, I got very sick 4 months later. I've lost 30 lbs of muscle with severe spinal pain and neurological issues. I've been terrified its invasive fungus but all docs say no.

I've been to Klinghardt and Simon Yu. I've spent 75,000 with no real improvement from docs. I soaked my mouth guard in Borax a few days ago and after wearing it yesterday, I feel way better. I'm wanting to go to Ted's clinic in Thailand for treatment but don't have contact info. Any help or advice is appreciated so much!!!

How much colloidal silver should I take for mold for mold in the lungs?

HI U OLE BIRDS DOIN, , , , , , , , ,

Got a wild hair. Ever heard that term? It's a Red Neck sayin when something wild and strange comes to mind. My young spouse has had the sniffles for awhile and I am coughing up oysters myself. Anyways, I go to Lowe's and buy a mold test kit to check our HVAC ducts. Bad is not the word. The petrie dish is spooky.

What to do? Research, yeah and I can address this problem two ways: Ozone or Citricidal. I have a Hi Dollar Ozone Generator, but I also know that ozone is flammable. So I opt out to address this problem with Grapefruit Seed Extract. The Tenn Mold people are experts at this, and I called them. Folks are so hard up these days that they are in a do-it-yourself mode. Thus, Tn Mold will sell you the product and you do the spraying. Guess what they use as a sprayer? Yep, a Theatre Fogging Machine. One used by Elvis and those folks. I've ordered all that stuff today.

When it comes in, I will remove the HVAC filters, turn on the fan and and spray the product into the intake. This should fog our whole house with mold killing mist.

Why are we in this condition? First , we live on a large lake where the humidity is maxed out. We just a bought credible dehumidifier and now have our home humidity under control, but the mold is already established.

The message here, is that regardless of the supplements and drugs we take, sometimes we have to change our environment to solve our health problem.

Few posters on this site recognize this. Yeah, maybe Ted, Bill, Dave and others.

Anyways, I hope I have planted a seed that sometimes you have to change your environment to get health relief.

YA'LL BEHAVE FOR A CHANGE.......

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Great sleuthing! Have you ever considered essential oils? They are amazing. Aches, pains, killing mold spores even! I enjoy reading your posts!

HI U KATHY, , , , , , , , , , , , , I do some, but when you are exposed constantly to toxins you have to remove them before you can address them. I think mold and EMF's are the silent killers of our modern life style. They get us and we don't have a clue.

As you know I'm a story teller and I am glad that I have at least one fan. We took our girls to Ontario in the 70's and they were astounded at the diverse culture you have. They were reared Rednecks as you would expect.

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Promise, , , , this is my last post on this subject. What have I learned in this trial?

One, know what your humidity is throughout the year. It is high in the spring, summer and fall and low in the winter. Have meters throughout your house.

Run a dehumidifier during the high humidity times.

Install a UVL SYSTEM in your duct system and change the bulb every two years.

Don't run your HVAC fan separate from the evaporator coil being on in the high humidity times.

My HVAC folks just left and I now have two UVL systems to kill mold. I am an extremist and I only want to address a problem one time. If two aspirins will cure my headache then 4 should do the job in half the time.

My health saga continues, but I hope my mold problems are behind me. I learned a lot in this endeavor and hope you have too.

Besides our food supply , our heath problems come from mold in our homes and EMF's. The EMF problem is not a deal, all you have to do is go barefooted as I did until I was a teen ager. It's a grounding thing. The Lord takes care of his critters because they do not wear shoes.

We have out-smarted ourselves.

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Hi Faith, very interesting post. Just wondered instead of drinking coconut water could you instead take organic virgin coconut oil? Wouldn't that do the same thing?

Wow very interesting what you wrote I also have mold and asthma from a house that I was leave in 10 years ago and now I struggle take hidrogen peroxide and feel awfal is it posibble that the fungos start to die and it makes me more ill? I take niacin for month now and put in my nose that foul of polyp h.p. and tea tree oil.

Oh my god this is horrible.

How did it work out for you? Did you find a solution?

I wanted to recommend to you Food grade Hydrogen Peroxide, 35%.

It will eliminate EVERYTHING that is wrong in your body, but also protect the good cells. It MUST be diluted properly however before use externally or internally.

You only take 1-2 drops of 25% to an entire glass of water twice a day. It has changed my life.

Think about trying bamboo capsules. After taking too numerous remedies to count for severe health problems (several), I have improved dramatically with silicon. Best natural source with the most silica is bamboo, then there is also horsetail. There is also organic silicon, but it is rather expensive to me. So the two I have taken are: bamboo capsules and organic silica from horsetail. For myself, I have taken the bamboo capsules 1 - 4x daily or the silica 3 - 3x daily. Actually, I have doubled that dose for awhile. That is about equal to the same amount of silicon in each product. Bamboo has the highest silicon of any natural product. This is taking more than the bottle label says, but I am going by the daily dose of silicon recommended by the manufacturer.

In general, there is 25 mg silicon in 50 mg of silica. For me, silicon is a wonder. I know it is promoted to be for hair, skin, and nails, but for me, I think it is an answer for cancer, mold, fungus, mercury poison, and lyme. I just had to take more than the label dose. I realize different things work for different people, but I truly believe in this for me.

I wish you the very best in life. Kind regards, Jackie

I tried the Horsetail Extract for Silica for healing but experienced absorption problems and irritated colon. Eventually I tried Diatomaceous Earth with other minerals in footbath with healing results.

So, another good natural source of Silica is Diatomaceous Earth.

Please look up Oxine. It's a product they use to clean up mold in ductwork. It was recommended to me to use in a humidifier in my chicken coop (so the bird will inhale the mist). 2 nights and no more respiratory rattles. It's about $30/gal and use 6 ounces/gal in the humidifier. Just me here, and I'm no doctor, but if I had a respiratory thing and knew I had mold, I'd inhale it. I would also spritz down everything with it--it disinfects very well. If you're gonna die anyway, you may as well try something that is proven to work in poultry without adverse side effects in the hens. Mold is pernicious--a mere 'cleaning' won't eradicate it.

I read about this and they said don't remove the mold yourself, hire professionals. Since it is in your body you can use activated charcoal, from a health food store or pharmacy to help bind it. Hospitals use charcoal for poison and overdose cases. You can also desensitize your body with baking soda, follow directions on the box.

Johnelle: I live in the Dallas area too, and nearly died 5 times because of the toxic black/Aspergillosis/Pennicillian mold in the rental house about 15 months ago. For the past 8 months I have been obsessed with looking into the natural way to help myself and my family. I have had too many doctors not believe anything we tell them, 2 doctors tried to put me in the psych hospital, one doctor put me on Keppra that caused suicide and homicide issues, and it was the landlord's fault and no lawyers would help us, now I am disabled, epileptic, asthma, allergies etc... The most important thing I have found is liquid chlorophyll. I also take the basic vitamins abcdek, started sulfur, zeolite, selenium, and some mercola multi vitamins (just testing that one) I test every single month trying to find the right stuff to help my body. Each person behaves different, but I just keep trying. We had to move to an apartment, lost everything, lost 2 cats, and now I have learned how to never use chemicals in the house, eat organic/local foods. We are vegetarians now and try to stay away from process foods as much as we can. My kids got sick and my husband got sick, but they have been slowly getting better. Now if I am around any kind of mold (even small non toxic mold from food) my body will not stop shaking till I take kava kava. It is a nightmare to go through, please keep in touch with me I am always wanting to help or find out more information. I wish you luck.

It is important that you fix the mildew in your home as quickly as possible when you find it. Get someone to come out and assess the issue. It could just be a small patch of mold, but it might be growing in your wall and under the carpet too. Having somebody check it out will cost a personal loan, but you will get peace of mind knowing there aren't any problems.

I we had hidden black mold in our new new house and I began to get ill slowy first itchy eyes, tiredness, sinus issues, rash, nausea, dry heaves, dizziness , weight loss, stiff neck, tremors, heart palpitations, shortness of breath , blurred vision my brain was misfiring like it was on fire brain fog memory loss, and flu like feeling at this point I was totally home bound. It seemed like I saw a hundred doctors they had no idea of the cause. Two years later the wall cracked from water leak and the reason of my illness was made clear. I had black mold/mycotoxin exposure and inhalation illness. Most doctors do not know how to assess , test, or treat myctoxoins / black mold illness so if you suspect that you have this illness find a specialist . I have an MD that is an enviromental specialist. and another MD that knows how to treat mold illness. First thing both doctors told me was to MOVE OUT of the house we did. One MD subscribes to Dr Shoemaker's method of taking cholestyramine (3- 4x a day) which binds to the mold /mycotoxins and gathers it and takes it out of your body. I believe there is an alternative to Cholestyramine . Dr Shoemaker mentions some other things that are very effective being used in other countries but it is not used in the states, of course big pharma got the market cornered here

This is what I gathered from both of these medical doctors. One is get on a fungal free diet which I felt was pretty close to the SCD diet. Stop all sugar, grains, dairy, vinegars, cotton seed oils, hard cheeses, coffee, alcohol, peanuts and anything made from DRIED coconut oil. The list is longer you can look it up on the web. Nuts have mycotoxins on them and need to be treated before eating I just avoided them altogether. Take a high quality best probiotics take on an empty stomach for greater efficacy. The SCD diet has the method of making yogurt that was recommended that I use . This diet was imperative in healing the body. This diet is literally starving the mycotoxins of their food source so they die.

The was also given Gamma Detox FX the MD gave this to me is a very powerful detox formula with 50% zeolite laumontie, 50% calcium bentonite. A rare form of calcium based zeolites called laumonite, a form of zeolite for gentle and full body detox. Medi-Clay is a quantum-state, rare desert clay (calcium bentonite benonite clay zeolites) binding agent that carries all the toxins out of the body.

I was also given a few other natural things by my MD ZeoForce ( zeolite) , Mycotoxin inhibitor x20 , and ACZ nano extra strength this is activated cellular zeolite spray

Interesting when I got sick I had super low ferritin/iron and I was taking supplementS but iron was not building up. Ted on Earthclinic, nailed it he said fungus eats iron. When I started iron IV'S I had been on a fungal free diet so I know that I was getting the iron not feeding the mycotoxins.

Now here is the catch apparently cholestryamine has sugar in it. Please be aware of this fact , a good compounding he pharmacy can make it sugarfree.

The efficacy for Cholestyramine seems superior , to many other binding agents .

A couple other things is taking charcoal pills, and drinking 1/2 tsp baking soda in a glass of water daily helps kills fungus so does a couple drops of oregano oil in water kills fungus , Grapefruit seed extract is also great antifungal. Borax 1/8 tsp in a liter of water is helpful , you can also get the pellets in homepathic dept of the store

In order to not cross contaminate our new enviroment . We put everything in storage. Moved into all wood floor home. Since ammonia kills mycotoxins before moving I wore glove and eye goggles and we washed all of our clothes with ammonia and wiped out the dryer and washer with ammonia. That kills the myctoxins, I wiped down all our leather furniture, wood tables chair with ammonia and water and we tossed all fabric covered furniture pillow blankets

Mold/ mycotoxin poisoning disrupts many of the body processes /pathways. It can become very complicated , very quickly I think it is important to find a someone that is specialist that can slowly bring you entire body back into balance.

Be careful if you have pets in the home if you do some herbal bombs. It may be advised to mix w/ water in a spray bottle for topical application, but then again, household Ammonia cleaner would be best. And if the home or vehicle has been flood damaged, it would be almost necessary to do several days of Ozone shock while the place is vacated.

Because I've been homeless for 5 yrs because of severe chemical sensitivity & other extreme symptoms I had to consider mould. It is also one of my big allergants, amongst many many others. I tried cholestraymine for 2 mths. Mine had saccharine in it. But constipation was an even bigger problem than normal. So I thought I'd try charcoal. I've tried many enviro doctors but they are at a loss. Hope you are doing better. Vinegars - does this include acv? I have severe copper toxicity so coconut oil is a no go. But I can't find what can relieve the pain. I've known people wheel chair bound from mould. And someone who got better from cancidas IV daily - very expensive but she is now normal. No more living in a tent or in a car because you're allergic to all building materials. We can't get it in this country.

Taking Chlorella is one of the best binders, and taking activated charcoal is another binder that my MD recommended to me. Along with Pectaclear detox. Cholestyramine is great, but I really prefer Chlorella since Chlorella is a natural binder .

I had a re-exposure to mold at a newer hotel we stayed at so I took a bath with a couple tablespoons of ammonia ... I did wear eye goggles while I soaked in the bath. This helps

I noticed now that so many places have water leak issues and /or mold so be mindful of hotels, restaurants, the work place, car, even going to old antiques stores or an old historical building can now trigger issues.

Kbugg, thanks for your thoughts. Would still like those that don't believe that someone would become so allergic they live in a car as a woman alone, in so much pain they can't get food. There are others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuvaP1t_-3Mhttp://www.jenniferparkerfoundation.org/jennifer-parker-page_bak0.html

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These people are expressing their sadness and the facts. They're not just rants. Add another 8 yrs onto the woman crying with her mother for all her suffering for 13 yrs and she might not have any friends & family left, missed the boat for having her own family, some people cry for just that alone, & she might have become so allergic she has to live by herself in a car.I found where Ted has written about hydrocarbons; tiles and carpets so he believes it is possible you can't live around building materials and that the liver is compromised. Since I first read this years ago I have done and continue to all he has recommended + I have pages of other treatments which includes biofeedback, electrical regenesis, chiropractic. I am no better. The electrical made me much worse. I was probably too toxic. Anyway, to all those non believers I may have found a reason why I have such severe allergies, cell impermeability, unable to make atp, to digest proteins, carbs, fat, cannabilising body proteins, ammonia, xylene, metal poisoning, suffering liver, kidney, thyroid dysfunction, chronic infections, high ca, cu, inflammation & depression & such awful liver profile - I have almost no sodium, potassium and many minerals which were normal are now nil. Low sodium, potassium causes all these things.

You have to know what you're dealing with before you can try to get better.

Ammonia kills mycotoxins. We fogged our house with 2x this was after remediation . We of course wore a bunnysuit total face cover and eye googles. Ammonia kills the mycotoxins. Get this it does not kill the by-product that is gassed off from the dead mycotoxins. Nor can you get mold out of carpet and the walls completely it can travel deep into the walls it is invisible. The majority of patients from this doctors case studies showed that many patient return to remediated house. They all got sick and moved , except one family was going to go back there and try to live. The same happened to me we returned to our remediated home and I got sick we moved. Do not gamble with your health or your life.

I sprayed my throat 3 times per day. The mold caused an intermittent catch in my throat which made me cough.

Is anyone wondering what causes the 'ice pick' pain usually listed as a symptom of toxic mold exposure. It is mold injecting itself into your skin. If the scientist would take the lid off their specimen jars they'd learn that mold doesn't need a opening from a surgery or broken skin to enter thru. That stuff sliced thru skin and dives in.

It's true. One on my ice pick pains hurt so bad and I saw a black curly Q string sticking the spot of pain. I broke off when I tried to remove it. Two years later no doctor will help me and I can barely use my hand. I am having better luck with my fingertips on my other hand but I touched the wrong thing and The pain was worse than I can believe. I ran for a magnifying glass to see what was wrong and there were fine black short hairs stuck in my fingertips. They wisp away when I rub them but It felt like a million poisons needles in my skin.

That's only 2 stories from my past two years in the twilight zone. One more bit of info. is check your house after dark with a flashlight. I accidentally found my bedroom ceiling was thick with a cobweb like mold hanging 3 to 4 inches deep and covering the entire ceiling. I still can't believe what I saw when my flashlight lit it up in pastel colors fading into one another.

Two years massive migraines, vision loss and major loss of brain function and no idea I was sleeping under that massive colony. Honest I never saw even one hint there was anything on my ceiling. I'm afraid of lady bugs I sure wouldn't have ignored that.

Ck. your house at night with a flashlight. I just happened to walk into my bedroom one night with a lit flashlight and wow. Never knew it was there.

God help us all.

Hello Grant, I appreciated your posting on this matter and would like to discuss other possibilities of keeping moulds out of the house.

To all other sufferers I would suggest the following:

1/ identify the type of mould in your habitat (house, appartment, office, etc)

2/ inform yourself, try find as much information as possible about that precise mould: where it comes from, how does it develop, what does it need to thrive like humidity % in the room, heat, cold etc and also what it doesnt like, for example extreme heat or extreme cold

3/ Remove the mould out of your house... Not only treat it but remove it (like that woman from England who washed ALL the walls with borax not just the piece where mould was present). Keep your house clean of dust and dirt and allow fresh air into your house at all times. Keep an eye especially on your bathroom under the sink, under and behind the toilet under the bathtub, the showercubicle. In your kitchen under the sink and definitely the fridge, more accurately the sealing plastic... Moulds looove hiding in the ridge, same for the washing machines

As to which ingredient to use... I was just browsing the internet and stumbled on information about something called 'active oxygen' which seems to be related to peroxide and ammonia (check wikipedia 'active oxygen')

4/as to how remove it from your bodies: WHAT you use and HOW MUCH you use , it will depend on each INDIVIDUAL. Also here I'd suggest to first have the organs checked which have to process any type of medication you choose to use. The liver, the pancreas, spleen, heart, ... All these organs as well as the immune system have to work hard to keep your body running swiftly under normal circumstances so imagine how much harder they have to work when your body is compromised by some illness. In consequence probably the first good advice would be to avoid further toxins (such as alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, drugs, frying oils etc) in order to allow your organs to do their job properly which is to keep your bodies clean of toxins. Second, try going for a walk or a bicycle ride somewhere where you can breathe in pure clean air at least 1/2 hour every day.

In reference to the ammonia bath: ammonia at 3% is used in swimmingpools to keep the water free of moulds. So probably also good ingredient to clean your kitchens, bathrooms, washing machines, fridges and also windows and windowsills.

Good luck to y'all! I'm going back to my research on 'active oxygen'

My symptoms of mold exposure are too many to list, and I don't want to scare anyone, but seizures, hallucinations, mood swings, rashes, chronic fatigue, hair loss, weight gain, fungus on body, yeast, hearing loss right side, tumors, moles, etc. It's been really tough detoxifying my body while in the house. I got much better, and I thought leaving was the answer, but I'm not where I would like to be. I developed MCS as a result of the mold toxicity.

Good bacteria in the body is the key if you can get past the detox... That is all the fermented foods that you can stand on a daily basis... Do the enemas and baths to help with detox. Try painting iodine on the body during the morning to help with detox as well, and eating various kinds of kelp. I cook with help in all my bone broths and stews... But again detox is horrible. I would be interested to hear who is still in their home, I'm considering going back and trying to clean up my home because RENTING is worse... You CANNOT control mold in rental units... You will GET WORSE! Plus, if you take your THINGS with you, you are TAKING THE PROBLEM WITH YOU... It gets in your belongings!

I juice cucumber and celery with a sweet red pepper. I can not have any fruit or the mold in my sinuses seems to grow.

MOLD RECOVERY PROTOCOL...

I suffered from mold poisoning and the problem is that the mold settles in the body so you have to detoxify it. The best method that I found was The Gut and Psychology Diet while also including coconut oil on a regular basis. As far as antifungals coconut oil is a great one. I also used olive leaf and organic apple cider vinegar. The ACV should be taken before each meal, a few tablespoons in about an ounce of warm water. Cooking in all of the healthy fats helps you to detoxify the fungus... And making the fermented foods also helps to restore the good bacteria. There is HOPE, the body can repair itself.

In addition to this, it is best to flush the liver every few weeks. If your symptoms worsen, do a Apple Cider Vinegar enema to flush out the toxins, detox baths, or you can also take activated charcoal with plenty of water. Repeat the enema until you get clear fluids, take KELP and other SEAWEEDS to replenish minerals that you are missing AND drink plenty of homemade juices before and after a flush, or plenty of fresh JUICY fruits to replace minerals. Also take unsulphured black strap molasses to replenish minerals as well.

Diet should be based on Weston A. Price and GAP, these foods will heal you and plenty of bone broth will heal. I get my meat through a coop, best bones out there.... The broths alone did amazing things for us!

If your hair is falling out; skin on the arms dry, your forearms without any hair on them it could be a number of things. Radiation, flouride and menopause affect the thyroid adversely... Get that checked or put a drop of iodine on your arm and if it's still there the next day.. You have enough. If not get your thyroid checked.

Some of the known doctors who treat mold sickness in the U.S. are:

Dr. Michael Gray in Benson, AZ; Dr. Irene Grant in Tarrytown, NY; Dr. William Rea, an environmental doctor in Dallas, Texas; Dr. Janette Hope in Santa Barbara, CA; Dr. Mary Short-Ray, D.O. in Jacksonville, FL.

There is a website for Dr Mary Short-Ray called Toxic-Black-Mold-Syndrome. She also wrote a book called Surviving Toxic Black Mold Syndrome.

There is a website for Dr. Lisa Levine Nagy M.D. who recovered from a severe case of toxic mold syndrome called environmentalmedicineinfo.

Website for Dr. Irene Grant irenegrantmd.

Also a test we found to be helpful besides the Mycotoxin test from Realtime Labs was a Dark Field Microscopy test.

My family is sick from mold poisoning from a rented home we have lived in for over 5 years, the mold was hidden under the paneling and carpet in the basement. Long story, and not a good one.

We just went to NY to see Dr. Irene Grant, she is AMAZING and knows a lot. I would HIGHLY recommend her.

I am in the process of trying to figure out what supplements to take to help me feel better from mold poisoning. I have been sick for over a yr now and am still declining. I really need help and dont know what to do. I have so many of the symptoms that this causes

I meant to say that the mix has no "odor" or very low odor.

Art

Timh,,,,,,,, excuse me, that's a half gallon jar. Don't get old.

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Gail, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. We moved across the country and I neglected to get on this site for a period of time.

I bought a bottle of saline solution and emptied the contents. Then I refilled the bottle using a 1 drop of 35% food grade peroxide to 11 drops of distilled water ratio.

After filling the bottle I lean forward and inhale as I spray the mist in the back of my mouth. I do this several times and inhale deeply. Within minutes I cough up mucus then feel much better for the rest of the day.

In flu season I regularly tilt my head to one side and spray a few pumps of the solution in my ear. I then turn my head so it runs down inside. After the bubbling stops I drain onto a tissue and do the other side. Since doing this I have not had the flu or even a bad cold. My husband, a skeptic, now asks for me to do his ears at the first sign a cold or the flu.

Hope this helps, and again I apologize for taking so long to respond.

Mold poisoning is serious and possibly will end in death. I have late stage two Mycotoxicosis which was from a contaminated building no outside ventilation. I had 18 months exposure. I was only 28. I was healthy before this. Started working there 05/08 3 months started the symptoms.

Surviving my almost death, I left job in 01/10 to try to live. Through careful studies I found this. I cured myself by finding that ammonia is the only known agent to kill mold and mycotoxins they leave behind including Candidas Albicanus. That's the worst part of Mold poisoning is when this yeast takes over from your digestive track. I have posted a remedy on this website explaining all the needed info, however, to give a short answer, and a website with my journey to healing, I will provide you with this.

Grapefruit seed extract, grape seed extract, Chlorophyll liquid or gelcap, Alfalfa Extract, Garlic and onion extract, Oregano, or oil of oregano (if oil 3 wks on 3 wks off harmful to liver if not done so), Milk Thistle, Dandelion, and Burdock root extracts. These combined together in a six hour regiment will cure you. I am living proof. Also if you are really overwhelmed with the sickness, taking a bath with an 8 ounce cup of ammonia will aid in removing the yeast and toxins from your body. Also ALWAYS wash all your clothing, sheets, towels and such in a cup of clear 3% ammonia (only use this kind of ammonia for all said treatments) in your cycle and spray out dryer with it as well. This will kill the toxins you ooze out from this sickness. If you continue to recontaminate your body you will never recover. I wish you well!

I have been using a 1/2 tsp. daily of Bragg's ACV in my neti bottle to irrigate my sinuses for the last 6 months. I have known allergies to mold. Since nothing on your site cautioned people with this allergy NOT to use it, I thought it was safe. I am now dealing with the worst sinus infection/reaction I have EVER had in my life. My nose has completely shut down and I cannot breathe. It is scary and I cannot sleep. I cannot breathe out of my mouth for any length of time because when I swallow or it gets too dry I wake up. I have not slept for weeks and finally called the allergy doctor. The first thing they said was to STOP USING VINEGAR. I am very angry that there were no cautions about this either on your website or Braggs. I have also written to them. This ruins things for me every looking for alternative ways of dealing with chronic problems and doesn't say much for your information.

Michele, I'm sorry that you had such a bad reaction to the ACV in your neti pot - although it seemed a long time coming if you did if for six months before having problems. Maybe using 1/2 teaspoon of ACV daily as a sinus wash was too much - did you try a few drops first? Unfortunately, not every remedy works for everyone all of the time - just like anything else in life. Anything you do (or eat, for that matter, in the case of allergies) is your own responsibility. Please don't blame Earth Clinic or _____s - that's why companies have disclaimers . . . use at your own risk. I hope your problems resolve.

Hi Angela - I spend a great deal of time trying to remember everything I read on this fab site. I too live in a building in Cheltenham (gound floor) which suffers from damp. I run a de-humidifier which soon soaks up 6-7 pints of water in about two or three days. I always suspect my clothes may pong of damp (although nobody else confirms it!). Another posting has suggested that inhaling the spores can cause all sorts of health problems, so Im really interested in your Borax suggestion.... so can you tell me where I can get some in the Cheltenham area. Thanks. Bev

Check out the ingredients in eye wash.
Borax is in it.
Thank God for old people who know natural remedies.
They most likely don't sale borax because they would rather have you buy something far more expensive.

although oil of oregano works very well as an antibiotic and anti-fungal, be sure not to abuse it. just like prescription antibiotics your body can become dependent on them. it will also kill the "good" bacteria in your digestive system.

I found healing with whole foods by Paul Pitchford the most amazing book of all time. Although he rely's on cooked food. If you're fighting any disease you need more of a diet like hippocrates health institutes diet. I have cancer and massive candida and I am addicted to carbs. When I eat 3 salads a day and drink wheatgrass juice twice daily along with green juices I see the tumors go down to nothing. Also I use massive amounts of barley grass juice. Also taheebo tea!!!! Is the greatest anti bacterial, anti microbal, anti cancer herb out there. There are thousands of enzymes that go to work in barleygrass juice. they kill the fungus. The only problem with this approach is there is a massive die off reaction. You will be sick for a week or so. Use a good probiotic seperate from taheebo tea because taheebo tea will kill the good bacteria. Also they sell bee farm bee propolis extract 1000. Propolis is nothing short of amazing. Silver edge sells a great colloidal silver maker for cheap (truly a life saver).

All chlorella is not the same, some are way more effective and powerful so make sure you buying organic and pure. Some brands from China have metal and toxins, which is just more burden on the body. Do your homework, because you do not want to end up sicker.

8 days ago two small, painful, splinter-looking bumps appeared just under my chin. To help the foreign particles escape, I poked a small hole in each. Instantly I recalled my toes* and sought to ward off infection... applying 3% H202 on and around. OMG!!! Second Degree burn from the bumps to the base of my chin and two areas of my neck. No reaction from 3% ever before.

*5 months ago both big and little toes became extremely infected... one 1/2 hard the other 1/2 gushy - and they really hurt. After 3 rounds of anti-biotics my toes still aren't quite right. Approx. 40% of each big toe remains numb. Forget standing for more than an hour or two... makes the toes scream!

First I thought I'd picked up Scabies. Nope. Then found a site called Morgellans and the Federal Government's Center for Disease Control. Talk about depressing! Kept looking. Parasites? Something is coming out of my skin... nasty looking too, especially under 30-times magnification! Rid Worm by Hartz (smile) didn't do anything and this seems to be getting worse.

While I check in on this site periodically (found numerous treatments here already when medical field left me desperate), it wasn't until early this morning I found my way back here. And boy did I come running back! Check out the Image Bank at drfungus.org. Yep! This seems the most likely fit to my symptoms... could be wrong though but worth a try.

I believe my home is sick. Mold in the bath room seemed contained behind shower wall. Kitchen sponge doesn't mold when I leave it full of soap to dry out. Other usual precautions when living in an old, moldy home. It gets worse. Two dogs have pee'd on my kitchen and living room carpet so many times that I've literally went nuts 3 times ripping out carpet... swore I wouldn't replace until they were gone. Finally this year... Fidos are gone - ruining my son's apartment carpet now.

Anyway... though I'd scrubbed all the yukky stuff from the sub floors... a dark gluey substance remained behind in numerous places - nothing I could think of touched it. I've just been throwing area rugs here and there to hide.

Was going to brush my hair - to check if scalp was red, bumpy, etc. There were things growing on my brush! Upon magnificatin, no doubt some form of mold has completely taken over when I wasn't looking. So here's I am!

Not really thinking, I picked up an area rug and poured H202 on the mysterious black tar/glue substance. Ahh, the trusted bubbles went to work. Within one minute I could see white spores beginning to appear from the blackened floor. Couldn't help but notice some of the disgusting particles I keep finding on my skin is also in this bubbling puddle of burn-the-damn-house-down mess. What is in the ceiling? Behind the walls? Under the other floor coverings? Ughhh!

http://aromatherapy4u.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/974/ has a doctor claiming Baking Soda kills Cancer which is really Yeast/Fungi. What the hell? I've already this in my home thanks to Earth Clinic! Rubbed it all over, head to toe... letting the crumbs fall where they may. Appears the mold on the floor will be much easier to remove than the re-dried mess the H202 left behind. Of course I'll be needing a Haz-Mat suit!

Hey, the burning itch hasn't bothered me in a few hours and one of my big toes is beginning to have feeling again!

No doubt will try many of the great ideas I've read this morning from all of you. Thanks! Oh... I'm pretty sure it is the Systemic Candidiasis I'm up against. Maybe I won't have to watch all my skin and hair rot off only to welcome the finalle of painful death.

Really folks, take a look at drfungus' "Clinical" pictures of Fungi/Yeast. The medical communities around the globe have no excuse for no education or treatment. I take their silence as a personal attack on all of us who have ever had, have, and will have to suffer from any type of fungi. Accountability is long over-due every where I look up, for this and for that. Thank God we've still got one another!"

09/18/2008: Renee from El Dorado, KS writes: "Duhhh, forgot my question.

How do I keep this out of my eyes? The yeast over-growth inside of me is apparently on the march and I've got white particles coming out of my skin and my eye socket tissues aren't exempt. Several times I've felt a pain/burn in an eye and upon looking I've got what now appears are small spores penetrating the actual eye ball... or maybe they're coming out of my eye balls!!!!

Blindness can be one of the end-effects!!! HELP!

Hello Rene, Google SSKI (potassium iodide) and pull up one on Tahoma Clinic. SSKI was the first thing used to treat systemic candida. Dr. Wright has some excellent information on SSKI, how to use it, and what it does. Cutting out sugars & syrups from your diet also goes a long way toward getting rid of it. Please don't make the mistake of replacing sugar with aspartame (nutri-sweet) as it is a neurotoxin & damages the brain & central nervous system. Stevia is a safe substitute if you just must have everything sweetened.

The question of whether Vicks Vapo-Rub works on toenail fungus was the subject of a University of Michigan study about a decade ago. Their conclusion was positive; they isolated the specific ingredients that worked, and received U.S. Patent 6,361,785 (look it up to see the results of the research).

Also note that 90% of toenail fungus is caused by four dermatophytes that are the same culprits in athlete's foot and jock itch. (Therefore, to prevent re-infection, one must get the fungi everywhere - nails, feet, & crotch. Also change towels regularly, and don't dry your feet first, then transfer the fungus to another place.)

The formula (based on the research study, (which I've adapted for a more natural cure) is: 1 part Menthol oil
1 part Thymol oil
1 part Camphor oil
1 part Lemon Eucalyptus oil
1 part Tea Tree Oil
5 parts DMSO
5 parts Aloe Vera
5 parts Rubbing Alcohol
(the oils can be bought on e-bay, DMSO in a health store)

Apply twice a day to nails and feet. I've suffered from this vexing problem for 40 years, as did my mother and grandmother. It works.

Where do you find oregano juice, I have the oil but have not seen the juice.??

EC: Google shopping has a bunch: http://www.google.com/products?q=Oregano+Juice&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en

My doctor, an environmental illness and mold expert, is a great doctor! Mold allergy is serious can be fatal There are so many pathways in the body that are disrupted, and how the body reacts is shocking. A doctor of this caliber knew instantly how to deal with this mold/mycotoxins poisoning. For example I had a fired up parasympathetic nervous system caused heart palpitations, heart was beating so hard my body would shake, and I had tremors. I saw two cardiologist that gave me two different diagnosis. The underlying cause for my heart issue was mold poisoning.

It is best to move from mold house, and do not return even after remediation.( Believe me I know how hard it is to leave your home, but it so not worth it when you might die from mold exposure).Because your more likely will react, statistically that has been the case . Do not cross contaminate your new house with items from items from your old house.

Take several binding agents, because different binding agents bind to different types of mold! I took cholestyramine and few other binders. I did saunas, colonics, and several detoxifiers. I was also on specific kinds of IV's for releasing the mold toxins in the tissues, causing faster detoxification. Also injections into the ganglion centers was offered to reset the body and help the parasympathetic system.

The doctor explained to me once the house has mold you cannot get it out even after remediation. Imagine a grain of sand cut into 20 pieces how can you see that with the naked eye. If you breath one little piece in you will react.

Raj Patel, M.D.

California-based mold physician specializes in treating CIRS, Lyme and other tick-borne diseases as well as Autistic Spectrum Disorders (ASD). When possible, he uses a nutritional, rather than drug-based, approach to preventive medicine and treatment of illness.

This message is for the first post by Grant of Ontario. Did you take oregano oil as a tincture, pill or some other form? You mentioned you mixed it with Frankincense but I was wondering how and it what proportions. Thanks for clarifying.

Be sure to use the right diffuser when using oils for mold. Putting moisture in the air is not helping your mold problem, but encourages growth! You need a pro diffuser and pure essential oils that kill the mold along with treating the area and than removing the source professionally. I hope this helps.

I read about non-standardized essential oregano oil being the best to keep the Synergy of all of the components intact. I read about the leaf of the oregano oil not being sufficent with the amount of constituents being unavailable is available and leaf and flower oil.

Where do I get a good unstandardized leaf AND flower oregano oil so that I can mix and spray in my home?

Hi Connie,

Thanks so much for sharing your story. Could you tell me what concentration your Lugols is? I am in Australia and mine is 12mg per 3 drops. I think it might be a bit strong to nebulize but I do also have some nascent Iodine. Would this be better? Also how many times a day did you nebulize?

Thank you for any more information you can provide.

Hi Connie, and others who may read this.

What kind of nebulizer do you use?

Thank you! So glad to hear this has worked for you.

God bless you all with healing.

Hi, I used the hand portable nebulizer.

This has been a living hell. I wish Ted was still here!! I'm going to start Borax to see if it can help. I'm assuming that Borax is not only good for fungal issues, but also bacterial, parasites, etc...

To Bill

I have systemic Candida. Have now learned the cause is acidosis. When I did the Iodine, my Thyroid swelled and I had hair loss. I do have two nodules.

Hi Godgirlmonime,

I really appreciated your post. I wonder if you would mind sharing your symptoms in detail and how long it took to heal. Are you still healing? Also, would you mind indicating how much of each ingredient you put in your water and what kind of water?

I use some of these ingredients, as well, and am still struggling. I use 1 tsp. borax, 1 tsp. baking soda, and 1 tsp. sea salt in 2 liters of tap water. I add fresh squeezed lemon juice to each glass I pour. I try to drink the entire 2 liter in a day. I was using the peroxide inhalation method and kept getting a terrible sore throat. I will probably return to it and just lower the percentage.

Thank you in advance for your reply!

Robert Henry, you're welcome and I'm glad it is helpful information

For mold it is suggested to use, Cholestryamine is better at attaching itself to mold toxins, than other binders. My doctor thinks many binders is better zeolite, and super activated charcoal

If you are not getting well from a sinus infection ... still wheezing, feel sick, brain fog dizziness and you had mold exposure or even a sinus infection. See a mold specialist for get tested for MARCons. Regular ENT doctors do not check for this .

MARCons (Multiple Antibiotic Resistant Coagulase Negative Staphylococci) is an antibiotic resistant staph that resides deep in the nasal passage of 80% of people with low MSH (Melanocyte-Stimulating Hormone), this is caused from mold/mycotoxin and chronic inflammatory illnesses CIRS .

The sinuses are a colonizing site for molds, the mold is living and reproducing in the sinuses 24 hours a day 7 days a week releasing toxins, increasing a toxic burden Here are few symptoms you may feel sick brain fog, tired, sleepy, dizzy, forgetful, wheezing, sinus inflammation headaches, and on edge because central nervous system in overwhelmed

Many people cannot get better from mold illness because the sinus are still infected. Get checked for MARCon. My test was positive and I took the BEGS sprays. BEGS spray is a prescription only. I think it was created by Dr. Shoemaker BEGS is an intense sinus spray it dissolves the biofilm so it can kill the infections. This cured my wheezing and the last lingering symptoms of my mold illness,

As for the niacin detox I wrote about it, is the greater the toxicity of the body the more niacin the doctor gives the patients I worked my way up to 600mg. It is best to get with a doctor that knows this stuff and can advise, supervise. For mold illness cholestyramine is very important and the niacin detox can help kick out the toxins and so you get well faster.

Faithjoy,

Thank you so so much for posting this. Can I ask what your symptoms were and what (if any) kind of improvements you have been making with this protocol and over what period of time? I have tried everything at this point but I am so sensitive to many treatments and supplements that I have to be careful and sometimes end up feeling worse. I would do anything to have my life back and unfortunately just don't have the proper guidance from the right doctors without having to spend a fortune. What did the nasal spray help you with exactly?

Thank you again for posting this - it's incredibly helpful.

Thank you for your thorough write-up of all this. I'm pretty new to mold illness and have much to learn but I've never heard of the work of Dr. Yu, so thanks for sharing. Curious how long it took you to get well on this protocol?

Thank you so much for your thorough response. It is greatly appreciated!

For Mold Problems: It is imperative you get on a candida diet, accentuating alkaline foods (kills internal mold), and take high doses of magnesium oxide as well as soaking in Epsom Salts (another source of magnesium. Magnesium is essential to all body functions and mold crashes the immune system depleting the magnesium levels as the body fights the mold. Work toward excellent nutrition, supplementation, and detox. All are equally important. Leaving mold exposure is ideal, but not always an option. Fresh air as much as possible.

U can get mold foggers for apt. 1 for every 100 ft company biocide like bug foggers

Our compound is 10 years old and has five floors, each level at one time or another has been ravaged by black mold. Water leaks from the roof and leaky plumbing in units has exasperated the problem along with no treatment for years. Ongoing employee illnesses are all the same as exposure to black mold symptoms. The top two floors are covered in black mold now and in our units mold creeps in. Wish I could attach a picture.

Will borax eliminate this type of severe mold issue? After a year of no response the company will now apply borax. The AC system is infected. I am really asking can this type of chronic mold infestation be addressed or is moving out the solution?

Please apply 3 coats of bleach (1/4 cup bleach powder in 1 quart water) on all the walls/ceilings/furniture/everything to kill the fungus. Then, scrape of the whole paint of the walls, ceilings. Re-paint with borax mixed in the paint.

Move out! Asap! If its in ur hvac then the mycotoxsin from the black mold have probably gotten in your belongings as well. Mycotoxsin are very dangerous to your health they are extremely toxic. I've been going through a similar situation. You need to read on black mold and its effects on ur health good luck.

How are you Robert? I just made a concentration of Grapefruit Seed Extract. I put several drops in 11 ounce hair spray bottle and clean some black mold of my windows inside. I then sprayed the windows down with it and let it dry. I hope I have the concentration strong enough. I put quite a bit in for just 11 ounce of water.

I shook the bottle very well before cleaning. Do you think this will work for my mold and mildew problems? I also sprayed a small spot on my ceiling that looked like mold. I may check into the company you speak of, so I can do the air condition system.

Take care, Rebel

HI U REBEL, , , , , , , boy howdy, that's a really good moniker. I go by ROBERT HENRY because as a youth, when my mom got the ass at me, she called me by my double name. Now, I figure all have the ass at me so I use that as my pen name.

I found a web site that gives the formula for a patented solution of GSE for HVAC systems, and if I take the time then I can make this. My problem is that at 78 , I am sho nuff on the shady side of the mountain and don't have time to mess around. It's sheet or git off the pot. "Come clean me, Momma".

As you know GSE is a natural fungicide and we use it to preserve our garden veggies. The microbiologist immigrant that came up with this while working for the state of Fla trying to get their produce to market in good shape. It is quite an interesting story.

Reb, what I have read is that 90% of our sinus problems is due to mold one way or the other. I wrote this Mold Ditty because most on this site want to cure their symptoms and that is not a fix. You have to get after the root cause. You are on the right trail, but I am searching also. Sorry, I can't give you a solution.

======OLE ROBERT HENRY========

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , ,

Well, today we did the dirty trick. We fogged our HVAC ducts and the entire house really. Saved about $ 1200 by doing it ourselves.

As all are aware we have had respiratory problems and traced it to mold in our HVAC system. We hired a firm to clean our ducts and today we fogged using a GSE solution.

Now , we must clean our lungs , etc. To do that we will use hydrogen peroxide and glutathione via a nebulizer.

I look forward to the day when the EC site puts doctors back into the houses they lived in when I was a kid. In my day doctors made a living and that was all. Now, they make a killing and they are not the ones dying.

ATS=======ORH============

Thanks for the update, ORH, it does give us a boost to watch you carry on and find solutions!!

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , pay attention least this goes over your head. My latest saga has been mold in our HVAC system. This leaning experience has sent me to school and I hope you have learned also.

First, this far more complex than this trail I have taken you down. One of the ways we thought we were doing good is the ultra violet light that we installed 5 years ago. All critters can be killed by zapping them with the same frequency that they emit. Hulda Clark knew this and her zapper will kill your internal parasites. Our boy Timh, is well aware of this and posts on using this technique often. Mold spores can be killed by the frequency of a simple ultraviolet light. The problem is that the light deteriorates and becomes useless.

I have a GB4000 Frequency Generator that was first used by Dr Royal Rife in the 1930's and it will kill all body critters including cancer. That concludes my preamble.

Now to the meat of my story. I have health problems and I developed a plan to address the problem. One of these programs included doing 5 UBI treatments along with Alpha Liopic Acid IV's to get my liver is the best shape possible. After my experience with my HVAC mold , I talked numerous times with the UVL folks and thus became a skeptic about the UBI treatments I had just received. I then called the folks in Canada who sell the German made UBI machines.

Guess what , I was right on. They no longer sell the old models because the UV light deteriorates and the UBI treatments are useless. So , I probably have spent several months and treatments for naught. I have a call in to my Doctor to discuss this possibility. He is a great guy but sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Also , he is a Doctor so he has an ego.

As I told you good people , follow my saga and you will learn a thing or two. I thought I was going to be smart at 65, nope, set my new goal at 75, again nope, set my next goal at 85....... hey boys and girls , I may make that goal. I am finding that critical thinking is the way to go. Makes you a cynic and not lovable but you got to get up before daylight to sheet this ole sheeter.

My hope is that my doctor realizes his short comings and we have a do over. Otherwise, he is not the man I thought he was.

To be continued. =====ORH=====

Hi Robt Henry,

My engineer husband thinks you should look at this:

http://www.ezbreathe.com

He read about it, then bought a switch that is a humistat for about $30. Someone had given him an old furnace fan that he hooked up to the piping of his shop vac system in the basement, that vents out to the garage. This takes the coldest, wettest air off the basement floor to the outside, and replaces it with drier, warmer air. This is the poor man's version, but our humidity has been falling since he installed this in the summer (although it has been cold and our heat is on now). He thinks running your A/C would keep your humidity down at a lower cost that running a dehumidifier.

Glad you have solved this problem and hope you will be on the way to a full recovery soon. With the ALA IV's, maybe consider some LDN (low dose naltrexone, goes hand in hand with the ALA - per Dr. Bert Burkson, Las Cruces, NM) for liver repair and many other benefits, including limiting cell proliferation in cancer. (During the 16-20 hours after it leaves the body)

www.ldninfo.org

Take care.

Can the coconut water be given to a dog? What brand did you use? Are you healthy now?

I have been looking into Oxine AH for use in a humidifier because of mold in our home but I cannot find any information on if this is okay for human use. I know it is okay for farm animals though, since they use this method for chicken coops. Any help on this? Thank you!!

Oxine is used to clean mold from ductwork commercially, so if they use it to clean your ventilation/heating system you would be breathing what's left. Could you seal the area being fogged? Or you could mix it in a spray bottle and wet the surface? Then you could limit the amount you would breathe in. Personally, I would get a timer to turn off the humidifier and leave the area--what little (if any) remains in the air I wouldn't be concerned with. What's on surfaces degrades quickly into harmless elements (water, I think, but you could look it up). You have to balance the mold issue v the oxine.