Turmeric for Arthritic Knee Pain
Turmeric is amazing! I have been dealing with a swollen side of my knee because I don't have cartridge there for 2 years. I toss and turn at night if I don't have a pillow between my legs because its sore. I finally made a Dr appt with my orthopedic Dr. After doing that I remembered hearing about Turmeric and how it helps inflammation. So I shopped around to get the purest kind with pepper and found one with 1,000 mg. I took 2 pills, the suggested dose on the bottle. This was the middle of the day. By night time the swelling was reduced and I had no problem sleeping on my side without a pillow. My knee was not sore at all!!! Amazing! I'm cancelling my Dr appt.
It has been a week and the swelling has not returned!
Aleve, like advil, is a non-sterile anti-inflammatory drug. (NSAID). All NSAIDs will destroy your joints. Slowly, but they are destructive. They are fine to take occasionally, as long as you know they block healing.
Cartilage, bone broth, rebuild whatever is messed up in your joint.
My massage gal wrapped my knees in a "bandage" of castor oil, me thinking "Edgar Cayce?" but to my surprise when the massage was ending and she took of the bandages, the knees didn't hurt as much! (Knees were in a car crash). Used castor oil at home sometimes.
It's messy, castor oil stains, but amazing pain reduction, possibly permanent? I wont guarantee but then have never hurt as much and the pain has gone down a bit with every or almost every use
I know these messes well. The boron tablets are different than the borax soap foot soak. I use a pinch in a 2 gal bucket and soak for an hour. ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE. Month one I did it once a week. Month two twice a week. Still a pain, here there and everywhere. One day the victory of complete mineral balance will manifest and I will be stronger again. Walter Last wrote a nice article on boron, as a biochemist, he shares a lot of information...google it
Thanks for the remedies! I love the Russian poultice recipe with mustard! I once bought a 5 pound container of dry mustard at a health food store. I think the cashier thought I was crazy. But mustard has great medicinal properties. (This I was reminding myself yesterday when I was eating pretzels with mustard. Yum! )
Very good point that the other knee is the same age and is fine, so the old age theory doesn't make sense.
Keep us posted!
~Mama to Many~
Good day there Posters!
My knee pain has been a real trial for most of the year. Tried all sorts of treatments. My Gurus seem to think it is either Tendonitis OR Ligament trouble. These would seem to be the main issues I have to deal with.
The young doc told me it was old age but that's all rot because the other one is the same age and is fine - what do they know?!
I have recently been taking six Alfalfa tablets and six Joint Formula tablets divided into three lots per day taken with eats.
Also, I have been faithfully drinking copious amounts of water with some Magnesium Chloride diluted into it at the rate of somewhat less than a teaspoon per 300 mls glass of water. If I drink any more I might as well be a fish.
I did try the Borax treatment but I have difficulty tolerating it, so have taken a break. I like to think it would help Arthritis sufferers, for those who could cope with it, as I am a great "Boron Believer". Maybe the tablets might be better for me?!
One is supposed to rest a damaged tendon but that is tricky when you need the knee to walk about on! If you don't walk - you get fat and this puts more pressure on the knee and before you know it you are on a downward spiral.
My favourite cream for night time would have to be the Bronson Soothe Cream. I know one is not supposed to..... but this is sooo good I have to share it with you. Don't get it anywhere your eyes on any account or it will sting heaps! Believe me- I have tried lots of creams for this type of affliction and this one deserves an Oscar.
The latest trick I have tried is the "Old Russian Remedy for Arthritis, Inflammation & Rheumatism". You take 1 tablespoon of Honey, 1 tablespoon spicy Mustard, 1 tablespoon of Water and 1 teaspoon of fine Salt (I used Himalayan salt). Mix this lot in a bowl to get a smooth paste (I used too much water) and plonk it into a sealed container and put it in the fridge with a "KEEP OFF" or "Skull and Crossbones" label on it.
I am old-fashioned enough to believe in poultices, so this one appeals to me. I don't mind the mess-many aspects of my life are messy already anyway. Paste/smear the gunk onto the affected area (in my case the right knee) and cover with some plastic (mm! ). Then cover that again with a stretchy bandage that tightly encases the knee (available from a Pharmacy near you) and leave on for say 2 hours. Better still, leave overnight and then rinse the area with warm water. Ideally, one would repeat this for four consecutive nights. I like the thought of it beavering away whilst I am asleep.
Anyway, the knee seems to have benefited somewhat, as last night was my fourth night. I will try to keep you posted. One lives in hope. Thank you Mr Putin.
Praise God for your discovery!!. You will see more because Dr. Wallach mentions this very study, but much much more; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARB73jV4mro Dead Doctors Don't Lie
Limestone in your garden will give your food crops 60 microminerals- dolomite with give them highly needed calcium and magnesium, which will increase their nutrient content for you, look up soilminerals dot com too. He explains the main minerals and what they do.
I'm taking the KNOX GELATINE in hopes that it can repair/heal my Torn Meniscus. I dont want to get surgery as my doctor prescribed and cut a piece of my cartlidge off.
So I have a couple of questions that I hope I can get some feedback on...
1) I've started taking the KNOX GELATINE as Ken (Henderson, Nv, Usa) has stated but I just mix mine in water. The problem is, it has really slowed my bowel movements up and made me constipated. Has anyone else had a problem with constipation while taking GELATINE? If so, did you find a way to fix the problem?
I've only been on it for 11 days so far. For the first 6 days I just mixed 2 packets (about 15g) in some room temperature water.
I would mix the 15g of powder with 2oz. of water and then add in another 2 oz. and drank it really fast so it didn't gel too much (I do this 2x a day).
Then for the last 5 days I've lowered the dose and now mix 5g of powder in 2 oz water and mixed it up real good( with a fork I find is best) and then added in 6oz. hot water. It comes out like a liquid with no gelling at all. (I do this 2x a day)
But the thing is, I still feel constipated. My bowels just seem sluggish.
2) Maybe a stupid question but I'll ask anyway...if I use Collagen Hydrolysate/Collagen Peptides instead of GELATIN will I get the same benefit/results?
As I mentioned earlier I'm using this to help heal my torn meniscus. Hoping it can heal and grow back my cartilage that is torn as it did for the original poster, Ken (Henderson, Nv, Usa) who used KNOX GELATIN.
I think I read that Collagen Hydrolysate is easier on the stomach. So I'm thinking maybe the Collagen Hydrolysate won't cause constipation (just a guess by me).
Thank you for any help.
Hello again Gracie of Nottingham,
I am relieved that you are now in possession of a sound diagnosis for your debilitating knee problem and can see your way clear to a resolution.
It is a bit grim to have to resort to surgery but needs must I suppose. Did you have an accident to your knee?
I hope you will keep us informed as to how the surgery and your subsequent recovery turns out.
The Hemp oil I mentioned and Turmeric/Ginger are often recommended for their pain relieving properties by the way.
You probably won't want to be rubbing Castor oil or anything else into that knee any time soon!!?
Say hello to Robin Hood, Little John and Maid Marrion for me!
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my posting on the arthritic pain in my knee. I find your recommendations very sound, helpful, and above all your letter put a smile on my face!
Right, I was a little premature in posting on Earth Clinic the other day, because yesterday I saw my doctor who was able to give me the results of the x ray I'd had, which has helped clarify matters. I do have osteoarthritis, which you thought was almost inevitable for anyone over seventy, but in addition to this fragments of bone have broken loose in my kneecap and need to be removed. As I understand it, it's the fragments that are causing the intensity of pain I'm experiencing. So the next step is an MRI scan, and removal of the fragments.
I shall continue with all the natural remedies I've been taking, gleaned from Earth Clinic contributors, and, like you, I'm not adverse to a bit of voodoo, and may try acupuncture or other alternative therapies if the condition doesn't improve.
Hello Gracie of Nottingham,
I think I know what you are going through!
A crook knee is not pleasant at all. I wonder what your X rays will show? The radiologist will probably tell you that you have some osteoarthritis in the knee (surprise) but most people in their seventies will have that, and, if it is diagnosed as being "early" or "mild", that would not account for the severity of your pain which seems to be quite debilitating and restricting your mobility.
You are doing some great things to try to ameliorate the issue and I have tried most of them myself, especially after having suffered a similar, unexpected flare up five months ago after digging a deep drainage trench on my property. (We have to do most things ourselves out here "Down Under" in the sticks beyond the Black Stump and it takes its toll on body parts! ). I am yet to resort to pulling my own teeth yet though!
I strongly suspect that you MAY have either Tendonitis OR twisted or strained an important LIGAMENT around the knee joint.
This can take up to a year to heal unless we crawl around on all fours.
At this point I would like to refer you to my recent posting on this subject in the joint and knee section of Earth Clinic, so I don't repeat it here. They were kind enough to bestow an "Editor's Choice" on that one so it's rather like being mentioned in the Queen's Birthday Honours List!
In addition to the above (and what you are already doing which is great) I would seriously consider your doing the following: Organic Tea and Coffee if you drink those beverages, a little Hemp Seed Oil internally once a day, more Gelatine and three tablets of "Heal n Soothe" by the Living Well group just prior to retiring BUT one hour after food. Said to contain many of the ingredients you favour and possibly in a better combination for assimilation.
Lastly, and best of all, visit the best Acupuncturist you can find (even if you have to travel some distance to get there). Mine has not "cured" me yet BUT I gained noticeable relief after the first session-have regressed a little bit since - but hope for steady progress from now on. Did some of that "cupping" woodoo and massaged until I winced in pain. (It must be good-right?) She was rather keen on the exercises I mentioned in the (above) posting too and recommended that I continue with them. Well that's my take on your problem and it would be great if you could let us know of your progress. Be staunch and stick with it. As you lot say... "Keep calm and carry on"!
If you are a walker or keen gardener, then I recommend you desist for the next few months. Your knee will be grateful for the resting. Otherwise remain active.
Cheers and all the best,
Gracie, why guess and worry? When you get the results you'll contemplate your next step (pun intended! ). Meanwhile you seem to be doing everything right. The only red light I see is the walking 5-6 miles. Might that have been excessive even if you didn't feel it was?
I use charcoal on top of drops of castor oil on a bandage with glue all around edges and apply to area of pain overnight and add some heat to drive it in with a rice pack or hot water bottle or heating pad....been working overnight for my problems. Alpha lipoic acid helps with my pain issues
Try DMSO, it's a lot more powerful than MSM and penetrates deep into the knee immediately.
I'm female, in my seventies, and since I read an article in a health magazine in my twenties have followed a healthy diet, and my cholestrol, blood pressure, and sugar levels have always been fine. Twelve years ago I experienced twinges in my right knee, then fell and banged it, and the doctor diagnosed arthritis and when the knee worsened to have a knee replacement. I did not want to go down this path so followed the Margaret Hills Diet for Arthritis for nine months, and for twelve years have kept well.
However, two weeks ago I woke to use the loo, and had the most excruciating pain in my knee and couldn't walk. I rang the emergency health line and they arranged for me to be seen that day. Bearing in mind that overnight I'd turned from a healthy woman able to walk five to six miles with ease into an invalid, all the doctor suggested was an x ray and painkillers. I had the x ray eight days ago and am waiting for the results.
Since then all I can manage is to walk a few yards with a stick, and I feel that I've been left in limbo by the NHS.
My questions are "How come such a flare-up can happen so quickly? What caused it? Have any Earth Clinic readers experienced anything similar? And does it sound like rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis?"
I'm taking 1/8 teaspoon of borax in one litre of water a day, two teaspoons of MSM, fish oils, a sachet of gelatine, and a recently acquired health supplement containing boswellia, turmeric, UC-II standardised cartilage, and other natural ingredients (the instructions advise one capsule a day but I've doubled this). Over the years I've taken ACV with bi carb, but do not think it's done much apart from aiding digestion. I'm massaging my knee with peanut oil, castor oil, and soaking my feet in a bowl of hot water with Epsom salts (I did away with my bath in favour of a shower), and also cold compresses.
I know there are a lot of people worse off than I am, and my heart goes out to them. But the thought of not being able to walk again, not to experience the beauty of the countryside fills me with dread.
I'd be grateful for any help or advice on this. Best wishes.
Michael, your humor ought to carry you through!!!! :)
So, you might well remember me from such blockbusters as "The Crook Kiwi with the Knackered Knee" or maybe you have been following my sad tale on Twitter, then again maybe knot. Whatever, I got exasperated with this knee that had "Never complained before" (unlike the other one that I had injured a couple of times but was not playing up). As we get older, things take forever to heal (if at all). Weird. Wot to do?
Well I pondered on this Potassium / Sodium imbalance theory and cos it was the right knee I increased my Magnesium and Potassium levels by taking a supplement.
Still not a happy chappy so I phoned my "Guru on the Hill" down the road:-
Guru "Yes my son."
Me "It's me Don."
Guru "Indeed, I know this to be true"
Me "How so?"
Guru "You called me eighteen months ago and anyway I recognized your voice. It is, shall we say, distinctive"
Me "Small community".
Guru "Indeed so - I am already feeling the pinch: my client base is tottering"
Me "Well maybe I can help you with that, I wish to prevail upon your services oh wise and expensive one - are you by some fortuitous chance any good with knees?"
Guru "Argh, I'll give anything a crack eh."
(Not being encouraged by said response, nevertheless, I prevailed)
Me "I need to take the car (auto mobile) to the garage in the morning to have its "Warrant of Fitness" checked and I wondered if I could attend upon you afterwards?"
Guru "At eleven suit you?"
Me "Surely, but I will have to leave the car at the garage and walk up the hill. Will I be able to walk down after you have finished the treatment?"
Guru "Well, I can always ROLL you down if all else fails"
Me "Thanks a bundle mate - see ya then then"
Working his magic, he poked and he prodded, lifted and lowered, grabbed my ankle and twisted the leg, spun me around the room a couple of times like the proverbial cat and spent a LONG time rotating the whole leg in various configurations of loops and circles.
Finally he gave the whole leg a sudden, alarming pull just when I was about to tell him that both legs were (almost) the same length. No "longer" (sorry) perhaps?
It's a foreign language he speaks at times but the rough jist of it was to the effect that he had found that a ligament connecting the femur to the tibia had stretched (or torn) allowing the meniscus to protrude and he had "Poked it back"!! Whoa. Way to go!!
He recommended more Vitamin C.
And there I was remembering that the Good Doctor had said that I "Probably had Tendonitis"!
Anyway, feels a bit better to-day.
I am on the "Pirate's Blood Tonic" (Tart Cherry Juice) as of yesterday, so will keep you kind folks posted. This Site has given me so much HOPE. Cheers to all you fellow sufferers: together we shall get there one day!!
P.S. I think he must have done this before: he was just pulling my leg eh?
I made an ACV wrap for my painful arthritic knee, and it did help lessen some pain, however, it sure does smell! The strong odor bothers me at times...
Apple Cider Vinegar
Currently having chronic pain in right knee joint...was taking Aleve Liquid Gels, 2 to 3 per day...then doctor prescribed Celebrex(generic).. after 3 days, had swelling in legs...went back to Aleve. Have started ACV, 1 tsp. in 8 oz hot water with 1/2 tsp honey..3 days ago.....having severe pain in right knee now. Any thoughts? Thank!
Castor Oil for Knee Pain
I had a knee injury at 16. Every once in a while my knees give me trouble, maybe or maybe not related to the injury. Anyway, last week my knee was really bothering me. I had pain under the kneecap and it was making me limp somewhat. I had not even done anything that I knew of to bother my knee.
I soaked a cloth (not dripping) with castor oil oil and wrapped my knee with it. I covered that with plastic wrap and covered that with an ace bandage. I slept with it that way with a heating pad. It was somewhat improved the next day and now my other knee was a little "twingy" too.
So for the next couple of nights I just massaged castor oil into each knee and loosely put a thin flannel baby blanket on my knees to protect bedclothes. I used a heating pad one night. But in a couple of days, all knee pain was gone in both knees. I have continued to do this each night anyway, just in case. The skin on my knees is very soft now, too!
~Mama to Many~
Apple Cider Vinegar
I've been taking 1tbsp ACV in warm water for quite a few months now for my knee arthritis and feel great.. I want to add BS for added benefits... How much should I use?
can someone please tell me the exact dosage I should take and for long do we have to continue taking it. Thanks so much, Nina
I am a 58 year old woman, and some weeks ago my left knee was painful, mostly on the inside, I think it was the tendons. I put warm castor oil, in a cotton piece of cloth, applied it and put a simple bandage over it. When it cooled I repeated it, five times in one day.
The next day the knee was fine, and until today it remains so. I hope it helps.
Apple Cider Vinegar
My co worker has been rubbing the apple cider on his knees a couple time a day and has had wonderful results. Doctor actually wanted to do surgery, because his knees hurt him so bad. He swears by this rubbing it on his knees.
Apple Cider Vinegar
I just wanted to add my name to the list of apple cider vinegar users that have had remarkable results. I've been using ACV for the past 3 months twice a day. Within 5 days the swelling in both my knees went down. My only set back was when I walked too much. I was feeling so good I over did it. After three or four days rest ( no long walks) I have been able to increase my every other day distance to 3 miles with no swelling! This is helping me to lose a few pounds and should further reduce the pressure on my knees. I have two words of advice, #1 try it as if it was a prescribed medicine. Some people I spoke with were concerned of the taste, not me. #2 buy the organic mother type at the grocery store it's half the price of supplement stores. Best wishes to all!
After a fall down my front steps my knee swelled to the point I saw my long forgotten Doctor. He measured around my leg under both knees and the swollen one was 1 1/2" larger than the other. I was given a prescription but decided to try apple cider vinegar instead. I took one shot in the morning and one at night. On the third day the swelling was gone along with all the pain. I like the idea of ingesting the Apple Cider Vinegar and letting it work from the inside out.
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
Can someone say the portions of these items that were used for the wrap. Coconut oil? ACV? Cayenne pepper? I would like to try on my husband's knee.
DMSO is available in a few places in Australia.
HI U KATHY,,,,,,,,,,, worked in the 60's for the company who produced DMSO and sponsored Dr. Jacob in his research. After reading your post, I encourage you to buy and read Dr Jacob's book on DMSO. He was the DMSO guru who testified before congress when the FDA tried to outlaw the solvent.
He never advises using DMSO full strength. You use 50% above your waist and 75% below your waist. Also, Dr Jacobs did not sell his DMSO in a glass jar. He passed this last year and his company is no longer in business. I bought from his company for many years, but I don't know the plastic he used for his bottles.
Myself, I use DMSO daily on my right knee and my lumbar. I first use Bio Freeze or Voltren Gel, a topical prescription, and then add the DMSO to drive it into my ailments.
If 100% worked for your brother then I'm not going to throw rocks. There is usually a reason the experts recommend protocols. That is the reason I say read his book.
The reason DMSO has never had a FDA double blind test is that when you use it your breath smells like garlic. So folks would know if they were using DMSO or a placebo. The FDA did not want it to succeed, too effective, too cheap, natural, so it could not be patented.
Out of spit. ========ORH========
I was told about DMSO a few years ago but didn't bother purchasing it until I saw how much my brother in law was suffering with the pain in his knees, for the last 18 mths the pain had been getting progressively worse till it was painful for him to walk.I spent the extra money and had a bottle sent from America, I felt it may be of a better quality, it's in a glass bottle which I read was important, and 99% pure, he applied full strength to the knee, within an hour there was no pain and he could walk normally, it's hard to believe but there has been no pain for the last two weeks, it has changed his life completely, he says it's a miracle
I Woke Up This Morning, In pain, but... I woke up this morning.
Thank you Jesus, I woke up this morning. I was very aware of my aching right knee. A pained knee is one of the after effects of a years of kneeology (praying while on your knees). But I was happy for another day to encourage some one to choose life, and choose to be happy come what may.
There was a small bottle of Castor oil near me. So I poured some on my hand and gave my knee a good massage all around. And within minutes the pain was gone.
So those with knee pain might want to try Castor Oil. Leave it right there on the night stand, in case the knees start talking, before you start walking.
TimH, me too, is with the Amen Crew, the thousands praying for you and your nephew.
I have been drinking horsetail for my torn ligaments and bad knees due to missing cartridge and horsetail healed me. I bought the tea in a local health food store for a very affordable price (20 teabags for $2.60). In the summer I pick my own horsetail, wash it, dry then crush and keep in jars (that's good for 1 year). Drink the tea for medicinal use 2-3 times daily for a month then take a break for 2 weeks and start again. I noticed the benefits right away. If you are pregnant or nursing, don't take it internally (use the hair wash or bath instead). Horsetail also strengthens your immune system. It is known for its anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antimicrobial, antioxidant, coagulant, demulcent, diuretic and astringent activity.
Collagen and Calcium Hydroxyapatite Supplements
I had knee bone on bone rubbing and taking 1 capsule mornings of chicken sternal/sternum collagen type 2 cured the bone on bone over several months. Improvement occurred within days. I will always take it. It didn't heal my non-painful shoulder.
I also take 1 capsule evenings of the calf bone concentrate "calcium hydroxyapatite" because it feeds the bones and teeth and has type 1 collagen which feeds the ligaments and tendons. I will always take it, although I still have a small amount of bending knee pain but it's no worse.
I also think I would have sensitive teeth if I didn't take calcium hydroxyapatite.
Some joints never heal with supplements, but I think the skeletal system still needs feeding and maintenance with these two supplements.
Been using Borax (mule 20 team) for about 2 weeks. I had pretty bad knee pain. Almost all my knee pain is gone. I have Osteoarthritis in the knees (both) and now the left knee feels like the right knee. I am 50 yo. I take the normal recommended dosage of 1 teaspoon of concentrate. Concentrate is made from 1 tsp Borax with 1 litre of distilled water. I do this for my whole family including my children. Borax is a salt and is no more toxic than table salt. Both will kill you if you take enough of them. Good luck to all and get rid of Fluoride!!!
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
When I use Apple cider vinegar as a wrap, I get a flannel cloth and pour apple cider vinegar on it. I wrap the ankle or knee with the cloth, cover with plastic wrap, then an ace bandage or cohesive tape. If I were to add cayenne, I would just sprinkle on the amount I would sprinkle on food onto the Apple Cider Vinegar cloth. We have used Apple Cider Vinegar wraps overnight many times for sprains. My kids don't mind because they know they help! Even if you end up smelling like salad.
~Mama to Many~
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne Wrap
I have a sore knee which I can't seem to get better. How much of each ingredient did you use to make up your mixture? Or do you just make it up as you go along? I already take ACV to help with my carpal tunnel but am willingly to use its benefits to help with my knee. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Vanessa
I don't think it is the time, it is just the water...I have also noticed that after shower with warm or cold water, no matter the time of the day, the pain goes away.
I can practically guarantee you, that once you lose the weight, your knee issues will be a thing of the past.
I gained a lot of weight during/after the birth of my daughter many years ago, and oh MAN...my knees were always aching. It took me a couple of years to finally get the weight off, and once I did, *voila*...no more knee pain!
The same was true of a co-worker who suffered with "bad knees". He was very overweight and ended up having weight-loss surgery. When he was within 10lbs of his goal weight, I asked; "How have your knees been?" (I already knew what he would answer.) He said; "They never bother me at ALL now! "
While you're losing, be kind to your knees and do a lot of walking instead of squats, etc. In the meantime, I used to find that massaging castor oil on my knees helped a lot as well. It's also helped the sore knees of many of the friends I've recommended it to as well.
Thank you for confirming this. I recently bought a box of Gelatin and been eager to hear how it works for knee problems. I feel from my bike few yrs ago and it mess up my knee cap and I had some shots too. However due to the exercise those squats and lunges irritated it and my ligaments around my are started to ache and swell. Now the swollen is less but every time I walk up the stairs to my work it hurts even on the weeks when I don't workout. I am 27 yrs old and my highest weight was 280 pds and have lost 50pds so far. So I find this so heartbreaking because I been unable to do any lower body workouts due to my knee pain. I just hope this really helps me. I feel so old. :(