Natural Cures for Heart Disease

Ayurvedic Fermented Tonic

Posted by P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India) on 12/23/2015
5 out of 5 stars

I had my bypass surgery in Chicago in the year 1980. Since then, I am taking stain drugs, aspirin, etc. as prescribed by doctors. Recently, I started taking an Ayurvedic fermented probiotic tonic called " HRIDAYASANTHI "on the advice of my friend. I took 25 cc of this tonic in the moring and evening on empty stomach for about 10 days and 15 cc in the morning only for about 8 weeks. Then I took my blood test. To my surprise, my blood test shows my bad chlosterol, good chlosterol and Triglycrides are all normal. I never had this kind of good results in my life.

I recommended this tonic to a lady who was suffering from severe chest pain due to blockage. She took 4 or 5 bottes (450 cc) of this tonic. Her chest pain went away completely and doctors told her there is no blockage now.

It is available for about us $2 per bottle in India. For outside India, you may have to contact Ayurvedic online dealer in your area. Its manufacturer is : Santhigiri Ayurveda & Siddha Vaidyasala, Santhigiri P.O. , Thiruvananthapuram - 695 589, Kerala, India.

Best Wishes To all

P. Raghavan

Replied by Adi
Carson City, Nevada, Usa
08/26/2017

Would this Ayurvedic Fermented Tonic, dissolve blood clots in the two main Pulmonary Arteries. The blood clots resulted from Pulmonary Embolism?

Replied by P. Raghavan
Virudhunagar, Tn, India
08/27/2017

Adi,

I have very positive experience with this fermented ayurvedic fermented tonic. It has 15 ingredients : raw sugar for fermentation, woodfordia fructicosa flower to start the fermentation process, hot extracts from dates, cardamon, cinnamon, black pepper, nutmegs, grapes, terminalia arjuna tree bark, etc. My feeling is it is reducing my blockage since it brings my bad cholesterol (LDL) and triglycerides to normal levels. I am not sure about blood clots. You can try 2 teaspoon of this tonic per day. It would not hurt you.

Best wishes.

P. Raghavan.


Black Ear Fungus, Dates and Ginger Soup

Posted by Nattakit (Bangkok, Thailand) on 03/15/2015

On February 21, 2015, there was news released at Brain and Nerve Clinic, Chiangmai Ram Hospital, Chiangmai by Dr. Pracha Kanyaprasit, Neuropathy Surgeon. He disclosed about the natural way of treating blockage in arteries. He found this natural cure from one of his patients who suffered from blockage in carotid artery. The patient was weak and suffered from temporary paralyze. He used medicines to cure and prevent, the symptom got better. Later, the same symptom returned and he used two more medicine but did not receive any progress. There was only one cure left that is carotid angioplasty. This patient was afraid of surgery and decided not to choose. He chose to take medication and herbal medicine. Six months later, the patient came for another checkup. After x-ray and carotid angiogram an interesting and impossible condition was found. The usual blocked carotid which was rough in appearance became smooth and there was no need for further medication. He interestingly asked the patient what had he done to cure and knew that the patient took soup prepared from boiling black ear fungus or mushroom (Auricularia auricula-judae J.Schr), dry red dates and ginger. He now does not need medication.

Another patient, 70 years old female with cerebral thrombosis, medication could not be used as she also suffered from bleeding in the stomach. The condition was quite severe. He told her daughter about the first case which was cured and that the doctor personally did not believe but as there was no other choice and no danger so they might want to try. Two months later, the patient came with smooth blood vessel. The doctor was afraid that this could be double sides of the sword so he told only patients close to him to try the soup. There were 16 of them and they all got better. One of them drinks the whole day without side effect. The good thing is kidney also functions better as date support kidney health.

The formula is one liter of water, 20 to 30 dried dates (use only dried dates not sweeten, clean and cut a scar to circulate the water inside), about 80 grams of black ear fungus (use only black with black color on one side and white on the other) and 100 grams of ginger. All put together and boil in very low heat until there is only 50-60% of water left. Drink only the soup. The doctor and his family also take this soup. His brother who is a doctor also takes this soup and now does not suffer from leg blood shortage that caused muscle pain.

Nattakit


Cayenne

Posted by Mario (Vancouver, Canada) on 04/29/2016
5 out of 5 stars

Thank You for putting your comments and recipe for cayenne for heart disease.

I tried it 3and half hours ago and I just came back - very fresh- from 7 km walk which took me less than 35 minutes!!! Bless You for sharing!! Hope to hear from you soon, I have lots of information to share-with you or anyone else interested, regards, Mario


Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 11/11/2011
5 out of 5 stars

If you add Cayenne to your health regime, you will; find an immediate improvement to your condition, the Apple cider vinegar will clean your arteries out over time, by dissolving the calcium. But the Cayenne will open all the small arteries, and get the blood to your heart. To stop the heart muscle dying. This is a proven method for a heart attack victim, a teaspoon of Cayenne in eight ounces of warm water, drunk directly after the attack will virtually revive the patient.


Posted by Doris (Santa Ana, CA USA) on 04/08/2008
5 out of 5 stars

Had 2 slight heart attacks age 28 and 32. Scary one at age 34. Always felt so frail, tho ok health but high stress work and poor diet-sooo much coffee. At 38 yrs was electrocuted by faulty computer eqpmt, lost left-side arm use 1 and half to 2 yrs. During that 1 and half, at about 1 yr, strain from the injury caused a 30-second stroke. I watch clock, fully mentally ok, but was physically immobile entire time, couldn't breath, no heartbeat, nothing. Then it just stopped. I was SO weak always from then on. 3 yrs later married, had child, was always terribly tired. Read in heart surgery book about cayenne being able to stop even a heart attack while in progress. I take a pinch (1/4 tsp) cayenne in 4oz water 2 times wkly. Feel better with 5 minutes - energy stamina breathing is easier, circulation feels ramped up to normal. Still tire, not not as without cayenne. Never regained full strength or mobility from electr. injury but dexterity in fingers did return. Strength is still 3lbs., Best, not nearly so drag-out tired. Cayenne is great - in tomato juice or water. Only a pinch is needed. In V8 or regular tomato juice, cayenne goes easy. I put cayenne on hard boiled eggs, hot flavor hides well in grape or orange juice too. Has improved my cholesterol too.

Replied by Jeffers
East Anglia, Uk
01/11/2010
5 out of 5 stars

hi i too have had 2 heart attacks and had terrible angina for which i use a glycerylni spray and my lower legs and ankles swollen like balloons. i found cayenne about six weeks ago and take a 1/4 tsp in cup of water 2x day. the swelling in my legs and ankles has virtually gone and i no longer have the aching pain.

i also discovered hydrogen peroxide about a month ago and after a few hiccups (not reading instructions properly. ive always read them afterwards lol) the arthritic pain is so much better that i can walk with a spring in my step and i feel so well. i am 63 and have arthritis, diabetes, diverticulitis, aneurism and had no energy or inclination to do anything.

now i wake up refreshed raring to go, but its early days and i know its going to take months to get rid of all the toxic waste but the good thing im looking forward to is that it can only get better so i wish you all the best doris, and everyone on this fantastic site.

Replied by Linda
York County, Maine, Usa
01/11/2010

Jeffers, I'm wondering how you use the peroxide and whether you're using the 35% food grade? Thanks!


Cayenne, Magnesium, Wheat Grass

Posted by Joe (Philadelphia, PA USA) on 03/06/2009
5 out of 5 stars

Treatments for Chest Pains: My friend is an herbalist and he once cured a man with chest pains by giving him cayenne plus organic magnesium and wheat grass and it stopped the pain, plus the doctors told him it somehow fixed the damage from a previous heart issue also.


Coconut Oil

Posted by Dianna (Cathedral, California ) on 06/24/2011

does Virgin Coconut Oil help with strenghtening the heart?

Replied by Alex
Miami, Florida
09/25/2011

Hello yes coconut oil to my understanding it does help with heart health as the lastest studies did show this just like better brain fuction but then again there's a lot of factors here to consider when just using coconut oil for heart health.


David's Heart Health Protocol

Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 05/19/2013
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To add to the suggestions on "heart health" I see something missing that has been in the alternative arena for many years.

The "whole foods" theory that emerged in the 1950s was that the wave of heart disease which began rapidly accelerating after the Second World War came about because of the refining of flour, especially wheat, in order to give it shelf life. That theory was that the natural vitamin E was being milled out of the wheat and all the grains to provide shelf life. So the germ of the wheat was removed giving us white flour in loaf bread without any of the "germ"; the processed food revolution was on. Of course, refining grains has been an ongoing process especially where the "elite" preferred the lighter flour to the courser flour for thousands of years. The difference was that there was a wholesale movement to refining flour in most of the western countries in the last 50 years. Butter, was also replaced by hydrogenated oil which was another factor that damaged the arteries. As the arteries were damages there was no E circulating to stop the oxydizing process which produced blockages. Also without the E, oxygen was not being transported properly to the muscles (heart/legs) endangering the essential ability to function.

The first medical doctors who asserted the causation of heart and circulatory diseases was this refining of flour were the Canadian Medical Doctors, brothers, the Shutes. They made the assertion that the refinging of flour was depleting the basic source of E out of the bread and in time that depletion which was central to circulatory and heart health was causing a sharp increase in disease. So they propelled the consumption of supplimental E (natural and not synthetic). And of course, consume as much whole grain as you can versus eating refined white refined foods. Most all E comes from our breads.

My formula is:

1, 000 iu daily of d alpha tocopherol... Vitamin E (work your way up to the 1, 000 slowly, starting with 200 iu and in a month increase to 400 and next month another 200 etc till you get to 1, 000. I have been on this for more than 30 years. I do not take even one prescription drug. There are over 20 benefits from natural E... PLEASE... Natural Vitamin E... D alpha tocopherol and not dl alpha tocopherol which is synthetic. Vit E is a blood thinner when inside the body but helps with clotting when exposed to the air. So if one is on blood thinner, gradually reduce as you increase the E. Asprin is a blood thinner when you use daily, so cut down on the asprin as the E is being used.

- 500 mg of the herb hawthorne
- 500 mg of CoQ 10
- 1,000 mg of Arginine
- 500 mg of magnesium (and with that you can consume sea salt)
- 1,000 mg of assorted amino acids daily (giving even more arginine)
- a good mineral suppliment
- 500 mg of Calcium AEP (AEP is a wonder worder... This is NOT merely calcium)
- 2 garlic capsules daily (or one live clove daily)

To research each of these simply google search the term and add "benefits" and you will find lots of information. Also this formula helps with circulation problems. Circulation in the legs for instance is helped by using this formula.

Replied by Grace J.
Ohio
08/19/2020

I had a heart attack in 2012. I'm on atorvastatin 40 mg 1tab daily, losartan 25mg 1/2 tab daily and metoprolol tartrate 25 mg 1 tab daily. I would like to ween off of these meds! My Dr.wouldn't help me. Can you give me a list of drs. who will help me? I'm 72 yrs. and 181 lbs. but losing weight. I've noticed a slight decline in memory. I eat whole foods. Please help. thanks in advance.

Replied by Rsw
Oh
08/19/2020

Hi Grace,

You can join either or both of two statin Facebook groups that have been around for many years. Both moderators have personal knowledge of statins, and have either suffered damage or a loved one did. They are extremely knowledgeable, (Christopher was a critical care nurse before statins caused him to become unemployable as a nurse, but he is so knowledgeable of statin facts and literature) as are many of the long-term members. (Fran is like a book of knowledge and facts, after losing her husband to statin side effects many years ago).

Most of the members are also very well read about statins. They will all help you. The first group is “Stopped Our Statins” and the other group is “Side Effects of Lipitor, Lovastatin and Other Statin Drugs.”

I first saw a post from Christopher on Earth Clinic and have read his posts and advice for many years since. I found Fran several years before that. A good book on the subject is “The Truth About Statins” by Dr. Barbara Roberts, MD. She was the head of woman's cardiology and has analyzed all the statin studies to date, concluding that no woman has benefited from a statin. Eliminate high sugar and try to minimize inflammation and eat a Mediterranean diet. All the right tests, supplements and more are found on these sites, with comments from thousands of members who have gotten off their statins.

Best wishes.


Dietary Changes

Posted by Debbie (Australia ) on 10/13/2013
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I came across a wonderful article I'd like to share. It is from a Retired Heart Surgeon of 25 years experience. He says that heart disease is actually caused by INFLAMMATION of the arteries. Take away the inflammation - and the cholesterol can move through the arteries freely. He goes on to say that wheat, grains and omega 6 in the diet are causing the problems. He also says that he low fat, low cholesterol diets are a mistake because the brain needs the cholesterol and saturated fats.

This is exactly what Dr. William Davis is saying in his book. Get the wheat and grains out of the diet. It is the major cause of most ailments today.

Here is the article: http://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-really-causes-heart-disease

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc
10/14/2013

To Debbie from Australia,

Just one correction on your comments on the excellent article you cite by Dr. Dwight Lundell. Lundell in the article does NOT attack real whole wheat bread, like our forefathers ate. In fact, he asserts we must get back to those whole grains like our grandparents used. He is opposed to "highly refined carbohydrates" and uses sugar and white flour as the prime examples.

It is whole wheat where most people get what little NATURAL Vitamin E they do get, which is essential to keep the arteries from becoming tacky and therefore not prone to pick up fats which adhere to the walls of the arteries and become oxydized thus ... Inflamamed which is, Dr Lundell says, the real cause of heart disease.... Not a low fat diet. He decries a low fat diet, in fact.

I hold to the 50 year old theory that inflamation itself is caused by oxydizing oils and toxic refined carbs sticking to tacky artery surfaces. This concept was first introduced by Canadian doctors, brothers, the Shutes who argued that stealing the germ out of the wheat and other grains to give them shelf life, took the very life out of the grain, the part of the grain that made the human system work properly.

If you don't eat whole grains, you need to get your Vitamin E (natural and not synthetic) from pill form.

The current attack on "wheat" is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Yes, eliminate refined flours, but do consume the whole grains. If you feel you must get rid of all grains then supplement with the Vitamin E tablet. At least 200 IUs daily of d-alpha tocopherol. I take 800 IUs and have for 30 years.

Best of health,

Dave

Replied by Prioris
Fl
10/14/2013

China has done thousands of studies on fibrolytic enzymes and found that they prevent heart attacks and strokes. Cholesterols in arteries is what keeps people from dying from the inflammation. As an aside, people with ME/CFIDS/CFS have chronic blood coagulation caused by a primary microbe infection.

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/14/2013

Dave, good luck in finding the wheat our forefathers used to eat. It has been modified and hybridized to the point of being unrecognizable today.

If you believe that wheat is the only option for vitamin E then you really need to study more.. Is Vitamin E the only reason you can think of to keep eating wheat? Herbs, nuts, vegetables are all good sources. 2 slices of Wholegrain wheat raises the blood sugar level higher than a can of soda or a candy bar which in turn is the cause of huge weight increases in EVERYONE today. Look around you at the shopping centres and tell me that people are getting healthier by eating whole grains. How many peole eat nothing but wholegrains and keep putting on weight.

You only have to see the people on this type of eating plan to see the health benefits.

Here is a man who lost over 100 lbs in one year and probably saved himself from a heart attack in the process. His diabetes is nearly under control and he is now running marathons.

Anyone doubting that wheat/grain/gluten free is healthier just look at this amazing man.

His story is repeated hundreds and hundreds of times even in people who are over 60 and 70. They have even got rid of lifelong pain and arthritis.

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc
10/15/2013

To Debbie from Australia:

Concerning grain usage, my comment to you was that your link to Dr Dwight Lundell's article to support your criticism of wheat consumption, in fact did not support your position.

My point was that your assertion that wheat is bad was not what Lundell said in his article. He actually endorsed the idea of getting back to basic foods that are not refined such as higly refined wheat and other foods that do not resemble what we had a hunded years ago. He spoke of it as "what our grandparents" would have eaten.

You responded to my post. You misquote me. I did not say as you asserted "If the only place where you think you can get Vitamin E is from wheat then you need to study more. " I never made such an assertion. And then you site sources like nuts etc. Which one can get E. You also misstate me when you next say, "Is Vitamin E the only thing you can think of to keep eating wheat?" Well, that's not what my concern was; an advocacy for the benefits of wheat; it was a warning to supplement with E if one decided to quit whole wheat. But there ARE other benefits of grains(ruffage, and minerals for instance and B vitamins). And perhaps benefits that have been given to the billions of people over thousands of years who have consumed hybridized grains for essential life giving sustenance. Benefits we don't know about. I eat "Ezekiel 4:9" bread mainly. And I eat buckwheat pancakes. There may be things in the grain that one cannot get elsewhere. But the name "Ezekiel 4:9" is derived from the Scripture that names all the grains that God would bless his people with.

However, my original post was not to advocate for whole grain wheat except to say that that is where most Americans get what little E that do get, so IF you don't eat any Whole wheat then supplement. Vitamin E is vital in protection from arterial disease. So if you do get rid of wheat then supplement for needed E. (Lundell's thrust was to show the damage from "over refined foods" such as flour and sugar which causes inflamation. And he decries bad oils. His thrust was NOT an anti wheat campaign but rather anti anything "highly refined" and one of those highly refined items is often highly refined wheat.)

My major point was: If you get rid of wheat, then supplement with a natural Vitamin E capsule or two.

That was my main idea. IF you get rid of WW then supplement. I suggested Vitamin E caps of at least 200. You can get Vitamin E from other edible sources. I did not say you couldn't but its just hard get to 200 or 400 iu a day of E from spinach/nuts etc. (You seemed so intent on attacking me for saying something "nice" about whole grain wheat, that you imput to me things I did not say.)

In your follow up post you said also that wheat was "modified and hybridized"... Well yes, for millenia wheat has been hybridized. That's what durum is. There are thousands of wheat hybridized varieties in the world. All grains are and have been. Nothing is wrong with that. Man-made hybrids of grains goes back thousands of years.

You further think that wheat is GMO modified as you imply. (You used the word modified. Corn is GMOd to death; We know that. ) As of 2013, there is no marketing of GMO wheat, thank God. Monsanto has test fields. But so far we are safe from that disaster.

And then you say whole wheat bread has the same glycemic level as a sugared drink. Whole wheat? I was taken back at that. On the glycemic chart I have, whole wheat and all whole uncracked grains are LOWEST on the chart, and cracked wheat shows the middle range on the index and refined the highest. (When you just have the refined endosperm, that is the highest. ) I'm a good self indicator of glycemic index being borderline myself, having drunk "swee tea" and other sugars all my life until fifteen years ago. If I get sugar at night my legs begin to "crawl" within thirty minutes. If I eat a supposed non sugar snack, and then feel that agitation in my legs I know that the snack had sugar in it. Just experienced that in fact with the purchase of a jar of Almond Butter. Checked the label and there it was: Sugar added. And my body is VERY sensitive that way. Even the slightest sugar can elevate my sugar and cause the agitation; especially sensitive at night. But no such reaction if I consume a piece of ww toast, with a little olive oil as a night snack.

Thankfully, I've gotten rid of "cravings" which plagued me all my life by adjusting the hypothalymus... Now no sugar cravings. Free of that demon.

I got back from a trip to Eastern Europe; Albania and Romania last January. The whole grain "staff of life" is a mainstay in their diets as it has been for centuries. Western refined processes are only recently infiltrating. There was not the western type obesity there. It is not the grains that is the problem. It is the refining... Just as Dr. Lundell said in his article.

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/15/2013

Hi Dave

I was not trying to attack you. Sorry if it seemed that way. We are all here trying to get our health back. There are many people on this site who have tried everything and are still getting sick. Many with inflammatory diseases. I was just sharing.

Dr. Lundell in the article said and I quote: "The injury and inflammation in our blood vessels is caused by the low fat diet recommended for years by mainstream medicine."

He goes on "What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flour and all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods. "

When he says "flour" that would mean "wheat" and all associated products would it not? Also he mentions the oils that many processed foods today are being cooked in. Look at the ingredients lists of foods today.. many list "wheat" not flour.

One point about wheat or flour, if you like, is that it raises the blood sugar levels (as do most grains). Dr William Davis says that 2 slices of even whole wheat bread or white raises the blood sugar to the equivalent of eating a can of soda or even a candy bar. That is only 2 slices of bread.

Dr. Lundell also says when you spike your blood sugar level several times every day it is like taking "sandpaper to the inside of your delicate blood vessels" hence inflammation occurs.

Dr. Lundell said when the inflammation is gone, cholesterol can move freely around the body as nature intended. He advocated removal of inflamatory foods (which includes flour)..

Conclusion: Our diet is causing inflammation on a daily basis and we need to get rid of the causes.

If anyone is interested go to the facebook page of "johnpokocky" & look at his photos-Amazing health transformation (nothing to sell there).

People going grain/gluten free have had lifelong pain disappear, arthritis and many, many other immflamatory diseases vanishing. Even chronic gum inflammation is vanishing and no more bleeding gums.

Anyway people can research this for themselves and hopefully provide their own feedback.

I know there are people who have been it this site for a long long time and are still unwell.

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/15/2013

Dave, I never said the wheat was GMO. I said modified and hybridised.

"So why has this seemingly benign plant that sustained generations of humans suddenly turned on us? For one thing, it is not the same grain our forebears ground into their daily bread. Wheat has changed dramatically in the past fifty years under the influence of agricultural scientists. Wheat strains have been hybridized, crossbred, and introgressed to make the wheat plant resistant to environmental conditions, such as drought, or pathogens, such as fungi. But most of all, genetic changes have been induced to increase yield per acre. Such enormous strides in yield have required drastic changes in genetic code. Such fundamental genetic changes have come at a price."

Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
10/16/2013

Debbie: Yes you are absolutely right. Your explanation is excellent and very inspiring. I spent 6 years trying to get well before I got well. The diseases got into my brain and made me stupid. I wasn't able to put 2 thoughts together in a straight line. Eventually I stumbled across two solutions. One was experimentation. I have taken moomiyo from Tadjikastan and he sho wu from China. The second was to evaluate what well people and animals eat. People are good at making things like telescopes to study stars and animals are good at food. Park Rangers discovered over 400 plants in the intestines of a deer. He does not eat crackers that contain hydrogenated oils. The longest lived animal in the world eats mostly marine phytoplankton and some tiny sea creatures. A 54 year old Tarahumara India had the best time in a 100 mile race at 10, 000 ft. He eats mostly corn and beans. 70, 80, and 90 year old Himalayans drink raw goat milk kefir and glacial water and eat sprouts. When the best long distance runner in America finishes a race he collects his first place trophy, eats a bunch of bananas, walks over to his competitors and says lets run a 6 mile cool off. Raw fermented skate liver oil gave the vikings the strength and smarts to navigate the north atlantic in small one masted sailing vessels. The solution is in the food. The best foods have the best remedies.

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/15/2013

An excellent video presentation by Dr William Davis on wheat today and it's effects on the body. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw. Cheers

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/16/2013

Thank you Mike. What you are saying is absolutely inspiring as well. You figured it out yourself. I would hesitate to add the 54 year old in India probably had non modified corn. I now eat grass fed meats from a local farmers market and grow some herbs which I am adding to. I am thinking of getting my own chicken and just feeding it herbs and grass (the way they should be fed). The guy at my farmers market who sells eggs, feeds them grains thinking that was healthy. What chicken eats corn? He is reading the book now and looking for herbs to grow to feed his chickens.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
10/17/2013
2110 posts

I saw a documentary a fews yrs back about the futile effort for poultry especially, but livestock farmers in general, in some eastern European country, to continue using probiotics as feed supplement instead of pharmaceutical grade, gov recommended antibiotics. Big pharma's aggressive marketing rolls independent choices or practical benefits.

Hydrogen Peroxide or Colloidal silver can also be used in ag in place of chemical antibiotics at much less cost in production.

Replied by Brian
Sth Aus, Australia
10/17/2013

Hi Debbie. I'm agreeing with you. I recently I read a recorded account of a meeting between the Persian and Ethiopian kings in the fifth century B.C., that I think you will quite enjoy, and this is my condensed version:

The Ethiopian king was informed how wine was made and drank some for the first time and found it delicious. He then inquired of the Persian what they ate and how old they lived. The Persians cultivated wheat and the king said they ate bread (and obviously drank wine) and lived to 80. The Ethiopian king then said he was not surprised that anyone who ate “dung” should die so soon and if it were not for the wine, they would probably die even sooner. The Persian then asked the Ethiopian the same question and was told they ate boiled meat, drank milk and lived to 120.

Fast forward 2500 years and it seems to me that the more things change, the more they stay the same. We still eat the same “dung”, just modified varieties so that farmers can produce higher yields to appease the consumer demand for low prices, and we still only average living to 80.

The Ethiopians were doing everything right back then, a high fat, high protein diet and the milk wouldn't even have been pasteurised. Ethiopians now average 60 – and these days, lots of sourdough flatbread is pretty much a staple. Say no more.

Except for an average of 3 slices of wholemeal bread per day, I have been on a low carb, high protein, high fat diet for nearly 6 months and at 5'7, 57kgs and 57yo, feeling pretty darn good. I offset the carbs in the bread with high protein. Bacon and eggs for breakfast is just not right without toast.

Also, there is about 3 times more vitamin E in one egg than there is in one slice of bread. I often contemplate having a few chooks roam around my backyard, too. The soil in the backyard is dizzy with worms, they'd love it. So yes, chooks eat meat too, so tell your egg market guy to include meat scraps in their diets.

Cheers.

Replied by Trudy
Al
10/17/2013

What chicken eats corn? All of them. Corn fields are the best place for hunting turkey, grouse, partridge, quail---all birds eat grain of all sorts. All corn may be gmo, but don't kid yourself that your chickens will be healthy if all you feed them is herbs and grass. They eat bugs, too, so they aren't vegetarian. How about doing some research before you get chickens and harm them by feeding them the wrong thing.

Replied by Debbie T.
Australia
10/17/2013

Trudi,

Chickens do eat seeds (and bugs) of course there is nothing wrong with seeds fed to chicken. I realise they eat worms or other things. Most chickens do not run around in corn fields, not where I am from anyway. I did not mean taking away healthy seeds which they will find in a field anyway in addition to what you feed them.

Most corn today is GMO. Please research GMO and you will know that it stops mineral absorption into the body. You may care to eat it at your peril.

Here is a article of someone who successfully is raising grain free fed chickens. It can be done and it is soo much healthier for the chicken and the people eating the eggs from them.

http://hopecentric.com/our-grain-free-chickens/

See the article below of what happened to pigs stomachs when fed GMO food (not specifically corn). It turned their stomachs to "mush". Mice fed GMO food also ended up with huge tumors all over their body.

http://www.naturalnews.com/040727_GMO_feed_severe_inflammation_pig_stomachs.html


EDTA

Posted by Johnboy (Arkansas) on 12/28/2013
5 out of 5 stars

Straight EDTA, taken orally, will help open blood flow. The best product I know is DC Labs EDTA 625 mg. Also, one of the best heart and circulation products I've found, based upon Linus Pauling's research, is The Pauling Therapy Essentials Formula, which is basically high vitamin C, Lysine, and Proline with other ingredients which make it one of the most complete products out there and yet one of the most affordable. You can do a lot of study on Pauling's research, and I have, and I take these formulas myself and have been helped by them.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
12/28/2013

HI U JOHN BOY, , , , , , , , graduated from Crossett Ar. High in '54 . Linus Pauling wrote my freshman chemistry book at Ga Tech. You need to research some more as oral chelation is worthless. An anal suppository is a little better, but not in the league with an EDTA Chelation I.V.as I have had over 60 in the last 5 years. Carotid arteries went from over 50 % plugged to less than 10 %. Heart artery pluggage is zero at age 77. I know that I.V. Chelation works. Who told you that oral chelation works?

Not trying to rain on your parade, but where do you get your facts? Most folks on this site have been down few dusty trails and will tolerate questionable questions, but some like me, do not accept questionable facts. You can do folks harm if you are shooting from the hip.

There is lots of good information on this site but you can't accept all that is written, and I don't accept yours. Please ease my mind.

===========OLE ROBERT HENRY=============

Replied by Prioris
Fl
12/28/2013

One of the problems with Paulings recommendation is that some people can't take a lot of vitamin C. EDTA will leach minerals from your body. These methods were very useful until the advent of fibrolytic enzymes.

EDTA and Pauling protocol has been obsoleted with fibrolytic enzymes like nattokinase. It just needs to be taken on empty stomach. besides being more convenient and less expensive, it does not leach minerals from your body.

Replied by John
Atlanta, Ga
12/18/2016

I have just started learning about IV therapy, but it seems to be a real miracle way to get 100% absorption of nutrients.. I feel a person that can't afford IV therapy needs to be bold and learn to self administer IVs. A person must carefully study how to administer an IV. Be bold and self administer. Don't be afraid. You and your wife can learn to admister IV therapy. It is not that dangerous. I have not researched, but veins are missed by those professionals administering all the time and everyone always lives. It is not as dangerous as medical field would make you think.

I was given an IV the other day by a senior paramedic and I watched as a small air bubble went into my vein. Then when he pulled the IV blood went everywhere. I mean it sprayed and he failed at both ends of it. He allowed an air bubble in during connection of IV and then he allowed blood spray when pulling it out. Double F, F (failure, failure). I lived and no harm no foul. Just learn to not allow huge amounts of air into the blood stream and you will be safe. Keep everything clean. Learn all the dangers. And make sure you get quality product and do your home work on mixing the IV safely. And get the IV fluid from a trusted alternative source, or learn to make your own.

I heard a Doctor recently say, a couple can learn to self adminster IV therapy and remove a huge cost burden.

Also, consider Glultathione IV for MS and Parkinsons. Two sources I'm hearing are having excellent results.


EDTA Chelation

Posted by Lauren (Queens, Ny) on 03/13/2012

Hi Sjt from Japan... What is Edta and where do I purchase it? I have a similar problem and just as you said I used the same things that you use but they only helped to an extent. You just don't feel 100%. Please let me know asap. Thank you so much.

Replied by Debbie
Melbourne, Australia
03/13/2012

You have to be careful with EDTA because it also will chelate the essential metals and minerals from your body leaving undesirable ones behind. Of course please research this yourself but I would be wary.

http://www.drcranton.com/chelation/oralchelation.htm


Posted by Sjt (Kanto, Japan) on 03/12/2012
5 out of 5 stars

EDTA chelation pills work. I have a family history of heart disease so now in my early 40`s I started showing signs of about to have a heart attack. I got a pressing feeling on my chest that radiated down my left arm, sometimes it would hurt to the extent I couldn`t walk and my brain got all fuzzy. My family wanted to take me to ER but I didn`t want to go because my dad has seen many of his friends with heart problems get bypass surgery and still die of the heart condition or come out of surgery worse. He told me that the drugs & surgeries are expensive quick fixes that don`t last. So I started doing research and ordered EDTA. While I waited for its delivery I took emergency care.

1) I took cayenne pills and

2) I drank hot peppers, garlic, lemon, and honey in hot water while

3) I did deep breathing techniques and

4) a cardiologist previously showed me if I thought I was about to have a heart attack to lean forward, hold my breath, and give myself a huge bear hug as long as I could.

These 4 things gave me some relief but they did not take away all the pressure and pain. They just eased the symptoms. Next, I took and continue to take hawthorn. This increased my relief but still I was not healed. I was still feeling some pressure and pain but not as much.

Finally my EDTA order arrived and that did the trick. All the pain and pressure left and has not returned. However, after it left I also decided to make major changes in my diet to prevent the condition from returned. So now I don`t eat meat or oils other than coconut or a little olive oil. I eat NO processed or GMO foods. I do eat some eggs. I avoid canned foods and I avoid putting foods in plastic. I also changed my cookware to ceramic and iron--natural cookware. No more teflon coated stuff or aluminum. I have at least one salad a day and I cook my own food so I know what is being used. And I feel GREAT!!


Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 05/23/2010
5 out of 5 stars

HEART PROBLEMS

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,
Did my heart cathether Friday and was told my veins are clear.No kidding and after no less than 50 EDTA Chelations. I thought Chelation did not work. I have no plaque, but my Heart guy says I need to get on a statin drug. At 73 and no plaque and eating lard with every meal since I's a red neck Southerner, why would I want to mess up a good thing.

Peoples, yo local doctor is worse than your used car salesman. Now have 4 doctors. 3 know who the Lord is and the heart guy thinks he is God. He did tell me that I have hardening of the arteries. He got the ass when he found out that I was doing Chelation. Now that I have no
plaque, what is he going to say now?

In the Chelation Clinic , I have talked to over 300 folks and none go to a Cardiologist any more. They have all had by -
passes ,stints , etc. and now all just do chelation to keep their vessels open.

Before you do a by-pass, check into EDTA Chelation.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Ten Usa
06/19/2010

HI U BOYS AND GIRLS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don't have many words of wisdom for you since my latest heart episode. It appears that the Japanese herb to thin my blood is working as my vitals are bettern ever. My Cardiologist was disappointed that my vessels are all open. He still wants me to go on a Statin Drug , which I will not. He still says EDTA Chelation does not work ,but I know better.

Got a wild hair and had the CEDSA procedure the other day. The technician said I was consumed with parasites and most were in my heart. She prescribed a Detox based on the electrical frequency of these buggers. I know that is so from reading Hulda Clark's book. I will do this along with using Clark's electrical Zapper.

Am dropping my Anti-Aging Doctor as she is begining to be consumed by her ego. When you catch Doctors in a lie, then you need to move on. Wish I had some words of wisdom but I still got lots to learn. Thought I would be smart at age 65 , but did not make it. Set new goal at 75 and appears that will not happen either.

If I get out of this health hole , I'll share it with you'uns, which is East Tennessean for you.

=======ROBERT HENRY==========

Replied by Denise
Finger , Tn
09/05/2010

Mr. Henry, Where did you get your EDTA Chelation done? I'm in W.TN and have been looking to have the CT done? Thank you and glad that you are doing well!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn Usa
09/05/2010

There is an organization call ACAM which most Chelation doctors belong. Look up that site to find the nearest one to you. I go to Dr Holiday in Athens, Tn. Dr Holliday is a Thoracic Surgeon who got tired of cutting off patients limbs because of poor circulation. He still does surgery, but receives his joy by keeping them healthy. Henry is my middle name which my mother used when she had the ass at me.

Replied by Denise
Finger, Tn
09/07/2010

Thank you, I have a name and will phone this morning.

Replied by Deb
Waterloo, Ia
12/04/2010

My mom went to McDonnell (sp)Center in Kansas city, Mo in the 70's for chelation and it worked. She is 82 and no heart blockages.

Replied by Anthony
Houston, Texas
03/16/2011

I haven't done EDTA chelation. But, I've heard great things about it, including from my dad who is a retired EENT guy in his mid-seventies.

However, there is a doctor out of California I have a lot of respect for, and whose newsletter I received for a number of years. His name is Robert Rowen. I let the newsletter lapse about 1 1/2 years ago, but not before reading about his excitement of an EDTA suppository that someone had come up with. Apparently, it's so very much cheaper than an IV regimen, has a 30-something % absorption rate, and stays in the system for an extended period of time - I beleive it's about 8 hours. Dr. Rowen was recommending it over IV chelation. If anyone wants me to look up the product, please reply and let me know.

Replied by Simon
Boston, Ma
04/05/2011

Hi there, I was diagnose With C H D 2 years ago, chest pain, not able to walk, shortness of breath, hbp, hi choI and arteries plaques, I was prescribe the standart medication. At the same time I tried EDTA CHELATION for few months, my cholesterol was in the borderline, I changes my diet and took all kind of supplements I also squesed grapefruit every morning with 2-3 fresh clove of garlic together (crushed) for quite few months, but the blockage seem to still be there, I also took the C- therapy (Linus Pauline Therapy) for 3 months. I feel better more energies, no chest pain, able to walk over a mile without short breath but in my last visit the stress echo test and the results of blood work were not encouraging and my Doc want me to have the surgery asap, (I did not tell him I stoped the statin drug).

I must missed something, can you help me? Regards

Replied by Boysha
Victoria, Bc, Canada
04/15/2013
4 out of 5 stars

If I may contribute to this. I am 55 - I had 2 heart attacks in 1996. I was one of the people who wanted to find alternative treatment and not go under the knife first. I did Chelation Therapy in Toronto - done by Dr. Hui. However, as soon as he introduced Plaquex (intro-venus) I started to feel much, much improvement. You can find facts on Plaquex here: http://www.plaquex.net/

I also changed my diet because if you keep on doing what you always did, it will not be possible for you to get better for long. I reduced meat to minimum and eat mostly vegetables and fruit. I drink pure water 4L per day. I take Turmeric , Sage, Q10, Vitamin E 1600/day... There is no one treatement that is enough.

I hope this helps.

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
08/24/2015

Hi Robert Henry,

Just wondering how you are feeling after the weekend? Since the chelation therapy has pretty much cleaned out your arteries, I imagine it was a heart rhythm or electrical glitch. You did good, my friend, with your choices of self treatment! Hope you are taking it a little easier than usual for a while and eating the just rewards of all your (and your tractor driver's) hard work this summer. Take care.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
08/25/2015

HI U Rsw, , , , , , , , , , , ,

See my local doctor tomorrow to get a report on the EKG they took Friday. All my blood work is probably the best I've ever had. My CRP is low so I'm eat up with inflammation. I really don't have a clue how to address that. I am taking Beta Glucan to build my immune system in addressing my blood cancer.

I go Thursday to have a stress test done and will let the cardiologist interpret that. He's a big transplanted Texan, and we do the hand jive. I think you are right about this being an electrical problem and I will try to get him to address it with naturals and not rat poison.

An interesting story..... retired guy in one of my chelation groups had an electrical problem and his cardiologist told he could only live if had a pace maker. He whole life revolved around rebuilding old classic cars and this would end that because of the emf's associated with being close to running engines. He came to my chelation doctor, who told him his electrical heart problem was his electrolytes. He straightened that out and the old codger went back to rebuilding old cars. Is life interesting or what?

Thank you for your concern.=====ORH====

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
08/26/2015

Hi Robert Henry,

I've been reading that a low CRP means low inflammation, so maybe yours is good! Saw this table on the Life Extension site that may be of interest if you still feel it is high. CRP in men is suggested to be .55 or lower, in women 1 or lower.

See TABLE: SELECTED NUTRIENTS KNOWN TO LOWER CRP (scroll down page).

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
08/27/2015

HI U Rsw, , , , , , , , , , , , , it appears that I misread and your are right about a low CRP result means low inflammation. I thank you. Maybe I'll live to 92 after all.

There are some researchers that say heart disease correlates with inflammation and not cholesterol.

========ORH======

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
08/27/2015

Hi Robert Henry,

What good news! I follow Dr. Duane Graveline and his legion of doctors who believe inflammation is THE cause of heart disease. Our bodies need cholesterol to function properly, especially our brains and hearts. The FDA recently stated that the cholesterol in the food we eat has little to no effect on our blood cholesterol levels, after practically ruining the egg and beef industries in the past. (although some high cholesterol foods may cause inflammation, like beef because of glycation and acidic issues) Cholesterol is said to be like a fireman at a fire. It repairs and is present in areas of damage done by inflammation and but does not cause it. Statins, by blocking cholesterol, CoQ10, dolichols and other pathways that are essential to our health along the mevalonate pathway, can cause all kinds of problems like CHD, muscle and nerve problems, and dementia in the future for those people who follow doctors orders, while they get about a 1% lower risk of a heart event over many years, and this 1% advantage occurs only in men who have had a previous event.

So you are doing a darn good job managing your inflammation and we all look forward to many more years of benefitting from your advice on health, gardening, and generally using our common sense. You are a gem, and I have a feeling your wife is, too!


EGCG, B Vitamins

Posted by Connie (Slc, Utah, Usa) on 02/06/2013
5 out of 5 stars

For reduction of amyloid plaques in the heart, consider EGCG, an extract of green tea.

The B vitamins, specifically, B12, B6, and Folate, may also help to stop amyloid plaque build up in general. Extra B12, in a sublingual form, may be more effective than the amounts in a B complex.


Garlic, Ginger

Posted by Chalasani Ravi Abu (Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh, India) on 10/21/2012
5 out of 5 stars

hi, my friends, i am using last two months. i gave to my friends also, they are very happy. i read reviews also, in this connection i want give suggestion for making juice as below.

garlic you can make like paste. that paste u can put in cotton cloth and squeeze, then garlic liquid will come.... do not mixed water....

ginger also same above u have to follow.

honey u can mix after cooling only. do not put honey in the hot anytime... do not forget this.... do not mix water this do not forget.... bye

Replied by Amit
Gurgaon, Haryana/india
12/10/2012

Hi, My mother has Sugar problem also along with heart blockage, please suggest me either honey with ginger, garlic is good for her.

Replied by Dave
Seneca, SC
12/15/2012

For heart issues you should be on the following:
- At least 400 IUs of Natural (NOT synthetic) vitamin E (I've been on 1,000 IUs for 30 years)
- 500 mg of CoQ 10
- 500 mg of the herb Hawthorne
- Arginine, up to 5 grams daily. There are powers in this also that can be mixed with water so the solution absorbs better
- 250 mg daily of magnesium citrate
- 50 mg selenium

A writer in one of the posts above mentioned "Left for Dead" and the idea is to use naturals like c pepper and garlic. Those are good but don't leave out the essentials I list above like Vit E. Remember Dick (the writer of "Left for Dead") did die of congestive heart failure.



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