H1N1 Flu Treatment

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Posted by Robert (Susanville, Ca.) on 10/02/2021

Native Americans in the west used "Lomatium" a natural plant that grows in my area, in 1918 spanish flu was the H1N1, and none of the Indians died in the area where they took the Lomatium plant extract, they called it "Big Medicine". I have used it and it is antiviral and antibacterial and really works. It's my go-to med for natural healing. A site to look it up is www.Lomatium.com.

Posted by Garion (Forest Hills, Ny) on 11/04/2009

Aspirin: Swine Flu/Flu

I'd give Aspirin a yea for Swine Flu/Flu. Altho, I never got tested, so it could've been a really bad cold, flu or swine flu.

40 yr old dude here. I started feeling bad on Thursday. The next day I was extremely tired, congested head, sore throat. I could barely get out of bed. Not much of an appetite. I tried D3, Zinc Lozenges, Jean's Tomato Tea, Gargled with Cayenne water, Hydrogen in ears... nothing seemed to work. (I didn't overdo these solutions, I did them once or twice a day depending on the remedy).

By Day 3, Saturday I was still out of it. I had muscle aches (and a congested ear) but honestly I've had worse body aches from previous flus so I still wasn't certain what I had. It was Day 4, when I got a fever of 100.2 that I suspected I had the flu vs. a cold. (I also read that nowadays all flus are pretty much the swine flu. I think it's really spreading fast.) That's when I tried the Aspirin cure. I did it again the next day because the fever came back in 24 hrs time. By Day 6 I felt better. No fever. But still congested head. More energy tho. And Day 7, I definitely feel stronger. Still a little congested but stronger. Able to get things done, concentrate.

Now I didn't start to take Aspirin until Day 4/5, so one could say my flu/cold ran its course and of course by Day 7 I would feel better. But that Fever was making me feel miserable so I said what do I have to lose. Plus I read that one doesn't usually have fevers during colds and I found it weird I got a fever AFTER having symptoms for 3 days. I would try the Aspirin cure again.

here's what I took:
Day 4: I took 1 325mg Aspirin, crushed in half cup of water, every hour... for 3 hrs.

Day 5: I took 1 325mg Aspirin, crushed in half cup of water, every hour... for 4 hrs.

I love this site by the way.

Posted by Daryl (North, Louisiana) on 10/09/2009

My 19 yr old daughter was diagnosed with Flu Wednesday Oct 7th having 104 fever and typical symptoms. Her college roommate is recovering from Swine Flu which she had for a couple weeks. Daughter came home after doctor visit was prescribed Tamiflu which she took dosage as instructed. Once I came home Wednesday evening I researched Earth Clinic and read Ted's aspirin remedy.

I dissolved 500 mg aspirin in water and gave her one Vitamin C tablet with instructions to do the same every hour until she fell asleep. She slept well and yesterday all symptoms were dramatically improved and had no fever. She took aspirin/vitamin C remedy a couple times today and went back to school AFTER ONLY TWO DAYS !!!!

Regardless of naysayers, if you or someone you love (over 12 yrs old) has the FLU by all means try this remedy! I am totally convinced and feel grateful to have this knowledge in case my wife or I come down with symptoms.

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 10/04/2009

The truth is the popularity in aspirin was the very fact that 1918 Spanish flu viruse STOPPED the epidemic. It didn't just stopped by itself. I learned this only AFTER I have found that independently that aspirin did kill the bird flu, swine flu and dengue fever. I have as yet looking over the possibility of use in Hanta viruses, but that I don't know. What the aspirin does is it just digest the viruses when I look over a very high powered electron microscope during my student days even in very weak solutions. May I also remind you that I have seen (I can't say I cured for legal reason) that I have this person with a two year Chlamydia, which resists ALL KINDS of antibiotics (you name it, azithromycin, terramycine, amoxcillin, etc) and I finally gave up and aspirin was tried. The dose was 500 mg of aspirin, taken hourly for four tablets, each tablets is DISSOLVED in a cup of warm water. It was completely gone. The uniqueness of the aspirin is the salicyclic acid portion that dissolves any bacteria and many viruses sight. The chlamydia NEVER came back! Imagine a man with chlamydia eating up his testicles and you can imagine the pain he's suffering with the Chlamydia.

People who goes to talk shows are likely have vested financial interests, I DON'T go to any talk shows and rather tell the truth under the radar or scrutiny of the pharma industry and I think this is the best approach for me. For the unbelievers, I have plenty of people here who can vouch that the aspirin did work and it's synergistic with the vitamin C. It wasn't easy finding the cure, but once it's found I hope people will find some benefit, especially the fact that vaccinations are dangerous with highly dangerous bacteria and viruses, and they are live bacteria and viruses. Hence, to neutralize these, I only expect at least just taking ASPIRIN (or lysine) hourly for only 4 times in one day. It's the bare minimum so that the vaccination should it be mandatory there is A WAY AROUND this problem. The use of digestive enzyme works too, but it is not nearly as dramatic as lysine or aspirin. Perhaps I have to look into this further with dose/frequency issue.

Thank you for your support!


Posted by Lita209 (Sanford, Fl) on 10/12/2009

To Kathy from Dubois: You say that what bothers you is that Ted doesn't warn about Reyes Syndrome, etc.; here is a quote from Ted's "As a standard warning, people who have problems of inability to tolerate aspirin, probably know anyway, such as Reye's syndrome which should be avoided. Another is people with malaria and hemorrhagic fever should avoid aspirin use. A suitable substitute for aspirin, should people have intolerance of aspirin, is hydrogen peroxide 3%, one capful in one liter of drinking water, taken at 1/2 glass taken every 30 minutes for a total doses of 10, also completely kills off the virus. However, some vitamin C helps a lot, whether it's using the hydrogen peroxide or the aspirin or lysine when getting a cure for flu. You don't need vaccines. Hydrogen peroxide doesn't seem to work as fantastic as lysine or aspirin, perhaps because the vitamin C was needed on top of that, but it does work too."

I don't know Ted and I haven't had flu (Thank God), but I just thought to make this observation.

Posted by Arturo (San Jose, Ca) on 10/02/2009

Update: 100% cured from the swine flu. I can't prove it, but my wife and I had all the symptoms of the swine flu and now it's gone. The aspirin works in my book.

I know a person that got the flu a week before I did and she didn't do the aspirin treatment and now she has developed pneomonia for the second time in two weeks. She has been under a doctors care from the beginning.

Thanks Ted.

Articles of Interest
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 04/26/2011

Sorry Ellen but I personally found the article interesting although we have known that for quite awhile here in Europe. Fair enough, it is not about natural healing but it alerts people for what is going on. I suppose some postings will interest some people more than others, that is the way things are!

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 11/20/2009 391 posts

Swine flu pneumonic plague.

One of the remedies I have tested in the past against pneumonic plague, which affects more on the respiratory illness, that has the best results overall is the use of a digestive enzyme, capsule form, having bromelain, pancreatic enzyme, papain, papaya extract, for example, works best overall compared to the hydrochloric acid remedy.

However, I have observed when a person has this sort of condition, both the digestive enzyme AND hydrochloric acid is low in the body, as noticed by general weakness of the condition.

When compared side by side, I observed that the digestive enzyme (in capsule form, never in tablet form), works about twice to four times better than the hydrochloric acid. However, hydrochloric acid is valuable against this sort of illness and helps if it is added to the remedy. It is especially important when digestive enzyme is not available if you happened to be living in an isolated village in the rural area, a hydrochloric acid maybe easier to obtain.

However, the digestive enzyme capsules, which is often taken a minimum from 3 to 8 times a day, works much better, if it was possible to obtain them. This results in reduction in mucus of about 80% the first day. The other remedy I have posted was the chinese Ganmaoling tablets. Although I liked the old form, which was uncoated with sugar, the new one works a lot less better. To make it work, the remedy requires that a person has to chew on it, or grind them to a powder and dissolve to work more effective. The Hydrochloric acid remedy against the pneumonic plague (ukraine - although sometimes referred to as hemorrhagic flu) works by increasing the energy level, the dose I have used is between 2 drops to 8 drops, with average dose that I have used is about 3 or 4 drops, of Hydrochloric acid 35% concentrated, any grade are suitable and are often more obtainable, at least in Asia, then the digestive enzymes. The dose, is taken at roughly 50 cc, every 30 minutes, which will raise the body's immune system, and energy level within less then two minutes.

However, as mentioned previously, the best one is a digestive enzyme overall, followed by Ganmaoling tablets, a chinese herbal remedy against teh cold, but works the best in reducing the mucus associated with flooding of the lungs. The remedy for Ganmaoling, is preferably taken at 8 tablets every 2 hours is a dose I am a bit more happier, and taken throughout the entire day of at least 16 hours. The minimum dose, but less effective is 4 tablets taken every 3 hours for four times. A fever is best controlled by lysine, taken hourly for a day or so.

However, for a severe condition where the person already had damaged lungs, from this second strain. Even though the reported pneumonic plague is in Ukraine, a similar kind has already happened in Bangkok, about 1-2 months ago, and doctors will identify (or may) as the H1N1 swine also. However, there IS a difference, even though standard tests denies that, the symptoms are noticeably very different from the usual swine flu, it may have been the synergism with another bacteria/virus found in hospital that quickly eats up the lungs within a few days after the infection. A typical home swine flu won't eat the lungs within few days as the ones I have found via hospital infections that eats up about 1/2 of the lungs in a few days, since i have seen x rays of that. When this happens, to restore this severe damage, a lysine supplements is taken for almost 24 hours (possibly skipped during sleep hours, and taking larger dose instead), and taken for at least two weeks to reverse this peculiar conditon. It should be noted that the full name of a typical lysine, is lysine hydrochloride, which has the hydrochloric, as the Korean research has found, also works even if a hydrochloric acid were not obtainable, a lysine hydrochloride would do. As to betaine, which is another from of hydrochloride, can be used too, so we really don't need to get hydrochloric acid and it works too, but not as good a the lysine one.

The lysine is effective in reducing fever, but in severe pneumonic flu, it takes about hourly doses, 1000 mg for about 6 hours to kick in, while the Tamiflu simply doesn't work at all, and the price is too expensive, and is as useless.

The initial dose for a severe from of pneumonic flu is that the initial dose is taken at 4000 mg, of lysine followed by an hourly dose of 1000 mg.

The dose is calculated on a typical male, 150 pound.

So people, with different weights is calculated on that basis.

As for me, the newer strain affects the respiratory system very fast, and if there is excessive mucus, which leads to the flooding of the lungs (i prefer this doesn't happen) then IT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO GET THE DIGESTIVE ENZYME!

Lysine is important against fever, so the flu or bacteria DOES NOT ENTER THE BLOOD. When they do enter it attacks the immune system, and the high fever may cook the brain as in temperatures of 104 degree Fahrenheit. I prefer to deal with 103 rather than 104 before they go up.

As to other things mentioned about ozone water, acidic ozone water, they are too weak in practice. A typical one capful of 3% H2O2, or preferably two capful of 3% H2O2 in one liter of drinking water taken at 1/4 to 1/2 glass every 30 minutes for a total of 5-6 hours, may likely work a lot better, and may have a much higher kill rate. Whenever a hydrogen peroxide is used it works best whenever vitamin C is taken.

If the pneumonic flu isn't of hemorrhagic variety and all the other things were not obtainable, then a vitamin C and aspirin remedy is used for only one day and used hourly between 4 to 6 hours, but preferably at 50 minutes interval. I know there is a lot of nuances in the pneumonia cure, and flus in general. One of the atomizers I used to dry the lungs when a person does have pneumonia is the use of a 5% ammonium chloride solution in 5% potassium carbonate solution.

It kills the bacterium form and dries up the lungs. The method of use for me is not really to spray directly, but just spray in the room a couple of times and breathe in the mist. The lungs will clear up after a few minutes, so it works ok. The sea salt will also dry up flooding of the lungs, along with other remedies, the dose is 1/2 teaspoon for a typical 150 pound man, with normal blood pressure. If blood pressure is high, it's 1/4 teaspoon usually dissolved in a glass of water, and drank slowly. If a person who took the 1/4 teaspoon he takes in twice, but a 1/2 teaspoon is a glass of water is taken once, slowly of course, drinking them within 10 minutes if fine or even 20 minutes, if he believe there's too much water. The sea salt remedy to dry up the lungs is a one dose remedy but if it works and a person has no problem with blood pressure it maybe continued, but only once a day. In a severe lung damage pneumonic flu the lysine maintenance dose is continued, typically 1000-1200 mg three times a day for at least a month. One of the benefits of the lysine is it's ability to repair the lung tissue. Potassium is a common atomizer, along with ammonium chloride I used it as a contact spray when the mist is applied to kill remaining pneumonia in the lungs and is used whenever breathing is not too clear, but this remedy I used maybe three or four times a day.

L-Lysine, Vitamin C
Posted by Jessica S. (Milwaukie, Oregon) on 11/18/2009

Lysine 500mg and vitamin c 100mg lozenges once an hour cured my whole family of swine flu. All four of us came down with every symptom, I had the worst case. I started giving everyone 500mg's of lysine and 100mg's of vitamin C each hour unitl they felt better then one extra dose to kill it off. husband only needed 2 doses, daughter and son needed 4, I needed 5. we are also on a daily magnesium/calcium/zinc with vitamin d3. I believe we would have been in serious trouble without Ted's helpful hints.

Posted by Barry (Blountville, Tennessee) on 11/03/2009

To President Obama, Dear Friends, Fellow Americans

From Barry W. Bittinger Sr

My life was saved by a mistake I made (concerning Garlic) Im now trying to inform you about that mistake

[email protected]

I Know of the flu threat of many innocent fellow Americans you are now making an effort to defend against serious attacks of Diseases, Swine flu especially. I can help by suggesting something that has been very helpful to me and my family

This has been used before by other countries to defend against similar attacts of diseases.

I am aware of an emergency remedy to use against swine flu, also now known as H1N1,: I am speaking of GARLIC &/OR GARLIC OIL, also known as "Russian Penicillan." Garlic is readily available and can easily be obtained by most anyone.

I am a cancer survivor because of a mistake I made (with GARLIC). I was dying of cancer when I made the mistake that saved my life. My daughter, Barrie Lynn had strongly suggested that I take a clove of garlic a week to cleanse my blood. I mostly ignored anything about garlic until the cancerous growth in my right underarm lymph nodes turned into blood poison. But instead of eating a clove, I misunderstood what was a clove and mistakenly ate the whole bulb, I ATE THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE!, THE WHOLE BULB OF GARLIC! This mistake immediately changed my life expectancy from dying in only a matter of hours to still alive now some 16 yrs later. Read my story at www.earthclinic.com under Garlic Bulbs.

I now know and I now understand why garlic is so powerful against a disease or flu or sickness. Garlic alone has been used against an epidemic before in Russia. It is called "Russia Penicillin" because transports of garlic flown in to turn the tide of an epidemic.

Garlic is so powerful and effective because it can still work wonders (miraculously), not only as a whole food, but also when used as garlic oil - applied topically on the exterior of the body, especially on the feet.

I am writing you this message as an emergency safeguard that all people can use, even on an infant by way of drops of garlic oil on an infant's feet. It will save life harmlessly, painlessly, miraculously, and effectively.

My name is Barry W. Bittinger, SR. I am known as "Boone Doggie" by my friends who now call me "Doctor Garlic" because I tell everyone I can. And because of garlic alone several others have escaped death!

You may call my garlic Cry to help you "Boone Doggie Penicillin."

I am also aware of the power of these new diseases to reach anyone no matter what there status is, from presidents to the children - even the bum on the street, there is no distinction of nobility, we are all at risk, and many of us will die

As a last comment on this important letter I am sending to you. I am telling you that GARLIC CAN AND WILL STOP THE THREAT IMEDIATELY, even before the vacine arrives and is available Garlic can help You and will save you!

From Your concerned friend and fellow American.
Barry W, Bittinger Sr

EC: You can find Barry's 04/11/2007 post on the cancer page here: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/cancer3.html#GARLIC

Posted by Ilvia (Garland, Tx, Usa) on 10/06/2009

Hello everyone,

My eight year old came down with cough, fever (103), body aches. Gave her aspirin yesterday starting with 325 mg at Noon followed by 1/2 gram of vitamin C (in juice hourly). Fever responded (99.4). Half an aspirin every two hrs (-/ 170 mg). Backed off on vitamin C at 8 due to gastro upset (which I was shooting for, she hadn't had a BM for two days). She had a small BM before dinner. But, threw up dinner-she was hungry, but tummy wasn't ready.

Last aspirin at bedtime with cough medicine. Slept fine.

This morning freaked out about the aspirin due to Reyes Syndrome. So Aspirin until noon wanted monitor for new symptoms. She was hot this morning with bloodshot eye. Gave prune/apple juice because gastro upset continued with flatuence but no BM. She had a sizable BM an hour or so later. She ate, singing.

Sorry so long, but despite my Reyes Syndrome freak out, the aspirin seems to be effective. Make sure to make them drink (at the top of the hr I give water and juice) so as to flush the system and keep the bowels open.

Hope this helpful.

Posted by Tessa (South Bay, California) on 10/09/2009

Thank you Candy, I absolutely agree with you. An overly-hysterical response to a great cure for the flu. Give me aspirin any day over acetaminophen and ibuprofen, which can cause liver damage.

Posted by Sandy (In The Sticks, Nevada) on 10/12/2009


With all due respect to Ted, I have included the info below, because I think we all need to research a bit on our home health cures -- especially when exploring cures for more serious problems. I noticed the dosage used in 1918 was much higher than what Ted recommends, but as I received this info today, I thought it was worth sharing. These comments are clipped from a newsletter I receive from Mayer Eisenstein MD,JD,MPH. Here is the link to his website: http://www.homefirst.com/

Salicylates and Pandemic Influenza Mortality, 1918-1919 Pharmacology, Pathology, and Historic Evidence
Clinical Infectious Diseases 2009;49:000-000
Clinical Infectious Diseases 2009;49:000-000
Karen M. M.D.

The high case fatality rate especially among young adults during the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic is incompletely understood. Although late deaths showed bacterial pneumonia, early deaths exhibited extremely "wet," sometimes hemorrhagic lungs.

The hypothesis presented herein is that aspirin contributed to the incidence and severity of viral pathology, bacterial infection, and death, because physicians of the day were unaware that the regimens (8.0-31.2 g per day) produce levels associated with hyperventilation and pulmonary edema in 33% and 3% of recipients, respectively. Recently, pulmonary edema was found at autopsy in 46% of 26 salicylate intoxicated adults. Experimentally, salicylates increase lung fluid and protein levels and impair mucociliary clearance.

In 1918, the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended use of aspirin just before the October death spike. If these recommendations were followed, and if pulmonary edema occurred in 3% of persons, a significant proportion of the deaths may be attributable to aspirin.

Dr. Eisenstein's Comments:

This evidence from The British Medical Journal shows that antipyretics such as Tylenol, aspirin (Bufferin, Bayer, Excedrin), ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin), ketoprofen (Actron, Orudis), and naproxen (Aleve), should not be given for any type of flu and may be responsible for many of the deaths associated with the H1N1 Flu.

In 1918, the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended use of aspirin just before the October death spike. This recommendation may have been responsible for a significant proportion of the deaths.

My recommendations:

1. Vitamin D levels greater than 60ng/ml
2. No aspirin, Tylenol, Aleve etc. for fever
3. Lots of fluids and chicken soup
4. And "NO" Swine or Seasonal flu vaccines

Posted by Bruce (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan) on 02/10/2010

Ted, Thanks for the tip on using aspirin to fight H1N1. I have tried it and it works, and I have not used aspirin or any other drug in years.

Posted by Nettiebelle (Detroit, Michigan) on 12/05/2009

Well, I've been sick for about 4 weeks now. 1st, I caught the flu (I think it was H1N1, but they don't test u 4 it in the ER unless u r in one of the critical groups). There is a shot u can get if u catch the flu, it's called lami-flu, but u must get it within 48hrs of getting flu symptoms. Then, because my immune system was weakened, my flu progressed to pneumonia. Dr gave me an antibiotic, that helped some, but now going into my 4th week of illness, I'm getting a sore throat. So I stumbled upon this website looking for sore throat remedies. Today I will B using a combination of several remedies I've seen on ppl using.

I tried adding cayenne pepper to my coffee this morning- INSTANT RELIEF! It was delicious, too. Now I am sipping on noodle soup with lots of cayenne. It's very soothing. Will try other ideas thru out day. Will report again (won't be as long- lol).

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Baldev (Mumbai, Maharashtra, India) on 11/25/2009 185 posts

Dear Ted,

I am so very grateful and touched by your mail in reply to my querry, you in fact have cleared many doubts through this elaborate mail. God bless you.

Posted by Steve (London, Uk) on 11/19/2009

I am concerned that people would resort to aspirin as a cure. Aspirin is an anti-febrile agent and reduces temperature. The human body elevates temperature to prevent virus material from replicating then the immune system identifies and clears the virus.

Higher temperature inhibits the virus rna from combining during the reproductive cycle which is why we get a fever.

Aspirin is responsible for more cases of pneumonia than doctors care to admit.

Why would anyone in their right mind fight our own body's mechanism for preventing disease - something that has evolved over many thousands of years to a state of perfection.

Most people are mineral & vitamin deficient, couple this with a serious lack of good gut bacteria and a westernised sugar diet and you have total immune disfunction.

If aspirin is required for other ailments such as angina, poor circulation etc - then cayenne pepper is more effective and is also a pain killer.

B3 or niacin is also effective, improves blood flow, dilates arteries, regulates cholesterol, helps clear arterial congestion, but does produce what is known as the niacin flush which is harmless flushing but has none of the liver damaging effects of statins.

Posted by Dianna (Austin, Tx) on 11/20/2009

i think aspirin is somewhat of a miracle cure for a lot of things! i remember when i would young and was starting to come down with something - she would give me aspirin at bedtime and the next day i would be fine.

aspirin is (or at least used to me) made from white willow bark and maybe this is why it helps???

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 11/20/2009 391 posts

By Yulia Makoveeva, MIGnews.com.ua

Some Info on Pneumonic plague (hemmorhagic flu) closed meeting has been held in Ivano-Frankivsk, at which participants agreed that epidemic of the so-called "pneumonic plague" is being spread throughout Ukraine. But the problem is its form is unknown, it is ATYPICAL nobody knows how to treat it.

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE has an acute course than other forms, over and is accompanied by a very high mortality rate. The incubation period of primary pneumonic plague rarely exceeds more than 1-4 days. It begins, as a rule, suddenly - with shivering, fever, headache, myalgia, weakness, nausea. The symptoms of pneumonia - cough with phlegm, chest pain, shortness of breath - usually appear on the second day of the disease. Blood spitting, growing respiratory disorders, heart failure, respiratory failure, shock are being observed. In primary pneumonic plague phlegm usually is watery or mucinous, foamy, with blood or visibly bloody.

A secondary pneumonic plague occurs as interstitial pneumonia. Phlegm is scanty and more dense and viscous than in primary pulmonary plague. It is believed that in this regard, patients are less contagious.

As a reminder, yesterday, on October 28 flu epidemic in the Ternopil Region, which had appeared a week ago, mowed down nearly 10,000 of residents. Moreover - unknown virus has already killed seven people. Ministry of Health has confirmed 20 deaths from pneumonia in Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions.

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 11/18/2009 391 posts

It's likely to be an hourly Lysine dose and humic acid as an aerosol to breathe in. The humic acid is prepared as an aerosol, a weak solution to breathe in. It kills all kinds of viruses by trapping them. Use just enough as humic acid may accumulate if used excessively if there is long term use exceeding months of use. Still, it's a lifesaver.

I will update the hemorrhagic virus, but there isn't that sort of case in Thailand.

However, there are certain ones that did resemble bleeding which humic acid, lysine and magnesium chloride, 500 mg empty stomach did effectively stopped that. Perhaps it was or was not, but it had the symptoms but was not officially confirmed.

It should be noted that large doses of magnesium are antiviral. Vitamin C also.

If they are taken hourly, this should effectively stop them after 6 doses, but has to be given every 50 minutes not exceeding one hour for each dose, otherwise you just have to start counting again from 1.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Mandi (Keswick, Ontario, Canada) on 11/16/2009

Apple Cider Vinegar definately cut the symptoms of H1N1 virus for me. I took 2 cap fulls of ACV with 1-2 Tblsp of Natural Honey...let the kettle boil and cool down to just hot. Poured in the hot water and stired! I drank this every 3 hours the whole first day.The flu came in wave's, but because I took the ACV at the onset of the symptoms... I'm definatley sure I nipped it in the bud because the symptoms are gone and its been 2 days! SO TAKE IT AS SOON AS YOU FEEL IL.

I'm still taking it but only a couple of times a day just to keep virus standing down and make sure it doesn't come back.

Keswick Ontario Canada

General Feedback
Posted by Sassy (Sarasota, Florida) on 10/22/2009

I received this in a forwarded email this morning. Thought some might find it helpful:

Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS, DRM, DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, SaifeeHospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).

The following message given by him, I feel makes a lot of sense and is important for all to know

The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water . *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*

Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store and relatively inexpensive - under $15.

5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

Posted by Bleu (Russell Springs, Usa) on 10/15/2009

I have had, what I believe to be the swine flu. There was just ton's of fluid running down my throat, my ears were congested, and then my lungs were filling up. Taking a lot of vitamin c, I would have a good day and then a bad day.

Allergy medicine didn't help. Although the drainage was like allergies. I couldn't sleep at night because there was so much drainage; I would have to cough to clear my throat and then wake up.

In misery and desperation I tried the aspirin and it helped. I used a brand of powered aspirin here and made a concoction with powered vitamin c.

The really weird thing is this. I had preeclampsia with both of my pregnancies. The reaction I had with this flu was exactly like my preeclampsia. And aspirin is used with preeclampsia.

My theory is that what ever immune or other physical reaction that women have with pre-eclampsia; this swine flu is the same type of reaction.

L-Lysine, D-3
Posted by Kari (Phoenix, Arizona) on 10/11/2009

Fever should not be reduced in cases of the flu. Fever stimulates the white blood cells to increase, organize, and defeat the invading virus. That is what the immune system does. Fevers are helpful unless they go to 105 for a prolonged time. You will be better sooner by not reducing fever. Let it run its course.

Posted by Connie (Manitowoc, Wisconsin, USA) on 09/03/2009

I just tried the aspirin for flu. I have had coughing, sneezing, stuffy sinus, running nose, fatigue, achyness, watery eyes, and sore throat on and off for a few days. I've been living on vitamin C, ginseng, marshmallow root capsules, activated charcoal, and chicken curry soup for a few days. Initially I misread the bottle of aspirin and took 3 325mg tablets for the first two doses plus one dose of 1,000mg ascorbic acid. Subsequently I took 2 325mg tablets of aspirin. Four doses in all. Also took ACV in some water and vitamin C. All the symptoms are gone except for a stuffy sinus and a hint of cough/sneeze. Taking dose #5... 3 325mg tablets as I weigh considerably more than 120lbs.

Posted by Connie (Manitowoc, Wisconsin, USA) on 09/03/2009

After trying the aspirin cure last night the symptoms are much improved. There is still considerable stuffyness, a *tiny* bit of sore throat, and some coughing. The coughing is more productive. The sneezing and watery eyes are gone. Don't know if it is the flu. I weigh considerably more than Ted's 120lb estimation, but taking so much aspirin seemed potentially dangerous. My head was feeling swimmy after taking it. Much much improved though. Thank you, Ted!!

EC: Thank you for pointing this out, Connie!

The maximum dosage of aspirin per day is 4g according to this website: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_maximum_dosage_of_aspirin_per_day

Maximum 4g daily.
Aspirin tablets dispersible 300mg: ADULT, 300-900mg, every 4-6 hours.
CHILD "Do not give to children under 12 years, and avoid up to and including 15 years of age if feverish".

From the Mayo Clinic's website:


Side effects and complications of taking aspirin include:

* Hemorrhagic stroke. While daily aspirin can help prevent a clot-related stroke, it may increase your risk of a bleeding stroke (hemorrhagic stroke).
 * Gastrointestinal bleeding. Daily aspirin use increases your risk of developing a stomach ulcer. And, if you have a bleeding ulcer, taking aspirin will cause it to bleed more, perhaps to a life-threatening extent.
 * Allergic reaction. If you're allergic to aspirin, taking any amount of aspirin can trigger a serious allergic reaction.
 * Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and hearing loss. Too much aspirin (overdosing) can cause tinnitus and eventual hearing loss in some people.

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn.) on 08/31/2009 495 posts

Hello Rhonda, EC should have detailed instructions on figuring pediatric or pet dosages. An alternative doctor named Schultz says he prefers using child's weight to figure the dosage. Keeping in mind that the adult dosage is based on 150 lbs. weight, so put the child's weight over the 150 so if child weighs 75 lbs, put 75 over l50 and reduce to the lowest fraction, thus the dosage for a 75 lb. child would be 1/2 the adult dosage.

Taking 2 grams of l-lysine and 2 grams of vitamin C 4 times a day will usually knock most viral infections quickly for an adult. However the vitamin C gets used better if taken 1 gram every hour while awake, instead of being excreted in bright yellow urine. I would give the 75 lb. child l gram of both instead of 2. Since the immune system apparently goes into high gear & functions better, I would probably take 1 gram of each myself to prevent & step up to 2 grams of each if any signs of flu, cold or other virus starts.

Posted by Hannele (Helsinki, Finland) on 08/23/2009

Against Swine Flu

Against inflammation is a Russin receipe: two garlic bits smashed, put them to luke water in the glas, (two desilitres). Let them be there two hours. Filter. Drink in every eight hours the same kind made hit. Y must take the cures, six no less. The garlic kills the viruses, but if the cure lasts less than 48 hours, otherwise it is vain.

Posted by Laurie (Toronto, Ontario) on 10/27/2009

I have no clue what you just said, two garlic bits smashed, put them to luke water in the glas, (two desilitres). Let them be there two hours. Filter. Drink in every eight hours the same kind made hit. Y must take the cures, six no less. The garlic kills the viruses, but if the cure lasts less than 48 hours, otherwise it is vain."

Can you explain this please please especially the "Y must take the cures sorry, but to me it makes no sense along with lots of sentences on this swine flue site.

Can you please (if you know what the heck lysine and/or BHT thanks, could you email me as I can never again find where the question is I asked. Thanks again

EC: Ah, a great challenge! Okay, here's what we think Hannele means....  If anyone disagrees with this or can improve upon it, please resubmit...

Against Swine Flu

Against inflammation is a Russian recipe: take two garlic cloves and smash/mash them (mortar and pestle), then add the garlic to approximately 3/4 cup warm water (2 deciliters = 0.85 cup). Wait two hours, then filter the garlic out. Drink some of the water every eight hours. (Doesn't say how much of the water to drink.) You must drink the water 6 times every 8 hours or the garlic won't be effective in killing the virus.

P.S. L-Lysine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-Lysine
BHT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butylated_hydroxytoluene


Posted by Mariah (Atlanta, Ga) on 10/28/2009

Hello EC 2 garlic cloves a little bit smashed in 3/4 cup of warm water after 2 hours take garlic out and drink 1 tea every 8 hours no less than 2 days or 3 x a day = to 6 cups of tea in 48 hours . This is what I understand 0_0

EC: Thanks, Mariah!

General Feedback
Posted by Qwert (Awesome, Ma, USA) on 08/24/2009

Yes, Swine Flu has ping pong effects which means it will keep coming back up to try to weaken your system again. therefore you need to strengthen your immune system and keep it strong, and if you feel it coming back, take 1000mg organic natural Vit C three times a day, and also keep reading about iodine, It could be the only thing that can stop this flu.

Swine Flu Remedies
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 04/27/2009 495 posts

Hello to All Interested in L-lysine and Vitamin C for viruses:

Age l3 to adults: 2000mgm (2Grams) L-lysine 4 times a day
Vitamin C l000mgm (l gram) every hour while awake
Do not exceed l0 grams per day orally (GI irritation)

The reason for taking Vit. C more often is so that you use more of it instead of having a very yellow urine from excreting a lot of the vitamin C through the kidneys.

For younger children follow Dr. Schultz instruction which should be posted on EC - The adult dose is figured for average 150 lb. person He likes to figure childrens' doses by weight because there is a lot of variation in their sizes & weights. I would probably keep it on hand, but if you want to play ultra safe, you might want to take 1 gram of both Vit. C & L-lysine 4 times a day and move up to the higher dosage if people around you are being afflicted with the flu.

For those who have MMS on hand, the dosage for this is 2 drops per 25 lbs. of weight for all ages, but I have read somewhere that obese people should take more. I would be cautious about taking more than 20 drops

For colloidal silver, I have no personal knowledlge of this but it is said to kill most pathogens. The bottle it comes in should give you the adult dosage and you can figure the dosage by weight for children.

For those who find math daunting: Take the l50 lb. weight assumed in the adult dose. Put childs' weight over the 150 lb. You now have a fraction to reduce to lowest form. Example 75 lbs/150 lbs = l/2 of adult dose or 25 lb/150 lbs = 1/6 of adult dose.

Rena, I don't have the answer to your question, but if you read on the flu remedies section of EC, as I did, you just may come to the same conclusion that I did. Strange that this genetically engineered flu comes at a time when flu season should have already been gone, but when you look at the dates of the post in this section, it suddenly hits you that it looks like a lot of EC'ers were still having the flu long after the season ended, and good old remedies posted on EC was handling the situation. Good old EC remedies just might be knocking out some of those genetically inserted segments of the different flus and converting them into something much less harmful.

I also urge all EC readers to not forget about Bill's inhalation of H202 or good old turmeric which seems to have broad spectrum actions. Just type "turmeric research" in your search window and enjoy what you find to read on it. Really amazing when you find what these little old cooking herbs and spices do! So, everybody, get the MSG & aspartame out of your foods and start cooking with healthful ways to flavor your foods.

Last but not least, if you don't already know what sugar does to your immune system, research this also and cut out the sweets until the flu thing is over at least. It seems that sugar knocks out your phagocytes (white blood cells that attack pathogens). We need to keep these good guys in a healthy state to fight off all infections, whether viral, bacterial or whatever they might be.

I also can't disregard the conclusion that Natural Solutions Foundation (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/) came to in their latest alert, You might want to go there to read more.

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