Effective Natural Remedies for Gallstone Relief and Prevention

Oil Pulling

Posted by Victoria_guy (British Columbia) on 09/07/2025
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I tried oil pulling for general health and it helped with near constant gall bladder pain in about a week and a half. I had pain almost constantly, whenever I moved even slightly the wrong way, and of course it quickly developed and got worse; too quickly to research it fully, so thank God for Earth Clinic. I learned that I could use chanca Piedra to quickly get rid of it, which it did, only while using it I developed mild aches around wherever I had bone fractures years ago, and some weird terrible pain in my spine, so I discontinued it, and the pain stopped right away. After a few weeks to a couple of months the pain came back however and only showed signs of becoming as painful as before. Fortunately I had started oil pulling to improve general health. It has completely eliminated the constant pain with no side effects! I mostly don't miss a day, and never have any problems!

Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by Cindy (Wisc) on 12/18/2021

To: Reese (Manila ) Please share the recipe for the cleanse. Thank you

Castor Oil Packs, Pineapple Juice and Gallbladder Flushes

Posted by Marnie (Madera, Ca) on 02/12/2018

Hi Mama, did you use a heating pad with the castor oil pack? My understanding of a pack is simply castor oil soaked cotton or flannel placed on the body and secured with plastic wrap. Is that right? I've never tried it. Thanks :)

Alfalfa

Posted by Pay It Forward (PNW) on 03/13/2022 73 posts

So grateful for Earth Clinic! I start each day with 16oz distilled water and 1 Tbsp lemon juice. I also take dandelion tea 1-2x, as well as bile salts, milk thistle, and ACV. But my gallbladder has continued to flare up at times. Today something felt off and I began wondering if a stone was stuck. So, researching today I learned of more herbal remedies: Collinsonia (aka stone root) and Peppermint leaf extract. Both of these help relax the bile ducts (very important), as well as reduce inflammation and promote the normal bile flow, which is an issue for those with gallstones. Slippery Elm too and the other herb was Alfalfa tablets. So I've made a good strong cup of peppermint tea (4 tea bags to 1 cp boiling water) as I have no extract yet, and will go out once feeling better and pick some up along with alfalfa tablets.

But again, I think keeping those bile ducts relaxed is very important to avoid a stone getting stuck which can be more concerning and problematic. Oh, and of course a 2-3 Tbsp ACV in a cup of warm apple juice. Also soothing can be one of those rice/corn microwave bags and place it over your gallbladder/liver. Now, I'm not having a full mind blowing attack of pain (I know this too well) but something wasn't right. Being prepared, I'm glad I bought the Collinsonia Root, great brand (initials SP)

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Charity (Faithville, Usa) on 07/25/2016

http://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/gallstones.html

This is excellent !!!

also...A-F betafood, by standard process is amazing for gallbladder health, sold mostly through chiro and N.D.s, helps digestion immensely, I have used it daily since 2010. Amazon sells it, read reviews, kinda spendy

Apple Cider Vinegar, Aloe Vera

Posted by Elizabeth (Chicoutimi, Quebec) on 11/16/2014
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Undiagnosed officially but when I had acute pain in area where gall bladder is supposed to reside, after eating too many greasy foods, on more than one occasion I have taken apple cider vinegar which helped quickly. Again, several times I had sudden great pain and pressure in lower back, again undiagnosed but which appeared to be the passing of a kidney stone, I drank Aloe Vera juice and got immediate relief. It can't be proved, but at any rate both products are harmless.

Apples

Posted by Marie (Canada) on 09/08/2014
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WARNING!

I have a large gallstone and when I have apple or apple juice it causes me to have a gallbladder attack with pain and severe vomiting. Now I'm guessing it's because the apple softened the stone and mine is too big to pass so it instead makes me sick. ACV does seem to help some of the time but my attacks are severe and I'm getting my gallbladder removed, just waiting for the call for surgery....

Epsom Salt

Posted by Bess (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) on 09/19/2013

Hi Rachel from Valley Park - If you need the epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) right away, instead of ordering online, you can find them in just about any pharmacy (including those in large stores like Walmart or some grocery stores). Most people use the salts for bathing or soaking their tired feet, but it can be used for flushes as well. Do make sure it's pure magnesium sulfate without any additives (it should state that on the label). Some brands add fragrance (like lavender) or other ingredients (like menthol crystals).

Before you begin, you may want to see if your library has The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse by Andreas Moritz. He goes into great detail about what to expect and there is a Frequently Asked Questions section in the back.

Here is what he says about the composition of epsom salts:

Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) can be found in mountain regions and is contained in sea salts. It is also manufactured synthetically by combining natural minerals.

Good luck! Bess

Epsom Salt

Posted by Ron (USA) on 12/13/2022 29 posts

Assuming the epsom salt has no additives like scents mixed in, or bath salts, I would personally be okay using it to make capsules from. I just used store bought. nothing fancy. be careful. I have had galstone issues a few years now, and theyre better. I usually only opt for epsom salt cleanses if im in real pain. because; well; it can be threacherous if not done correctly. Hulda clark for example; prepared her patients for a few weeks by having them drink herbal teas to prepare the kidneys and liver for the galbladder flush to come.

I personally drink BHUMIAMALAKI (phyllanthus amarus) 1/2 tsp at night before bed in a few ozs of hot water for a bitter tea. This is on recommendation from a certified ayurvedic practitioner I hired who studied in India. I had verified stones and polyps via ultrasound. After 1 year of dosing this medicine (and changing diet, and a few epsom salt cleanses), I shrank all my polyps be several millimeters and my pain is nill. I also passed many stones in my stool.

BHUMIAMALAKI can be AN ALLERGEN TO SOME> I became allergic after a year of use and had to switch to Chanca Piedra wildharvested herb to make stonebreaker tea daily.

Also on recommendation of my CAP, castor oil packs on the gal area (a tbsp on a paper towel, with a sandwhich bag taped over it to you skin using surgical tape)

If one insists on the epsom salt cleanse, this is how hulda clark recommends it:

https://drclarkstore.com/pages/liver-gallbladder-cleanse-instructions

If it were me, I would read the whole page, and follow the instructions very carefully, or I could cause the stones to get backed up in your bilial ducts, cause more pain, or other complications, and have to start over.

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Wyandotte (Canada) on 02/24/2026 16 posts

You are right. After doing 7 or 8 standard issue flushes and getting nothing too impressive except for a large discharge of "rolled up tomato skins", which countless people claim, also, I finally hit the big time, namely, 3 stones - yes, cholesterol stones wrapped in a kind of stiff white substance. They were each a little more than 1/2 an inch in diameter. They were firm on the inside, which consisted of a greenish yellow semi hard waxy substance.

And some people say that these things were magically formed over an hour or so in the intestines or liver? Give me a break, people, and go back and get your gallbladder removed, that is not my business what you do.

For the next 2 weeks I felt wonderful, but as Moritz described in his book, the stones at the back of the gallbladder will move forward and your symptoms will resume. And this happened to me.

Any socalled naturopath who claims that stones do not come out from a flush, that they are fake, ought to be removed from her or his "profession". The "naturopaths" over the past generation or so are basically medical doctors but without the legal right to do major surgery or delivery babies. Otherwise, they have the mentality of MDs. Prior to maybe 30 years ago, they used more traditional natural methods. They have sold out.

I would request the moderators here to not delete the above comment, and I thank you in advance. To deal with my returned symptoms I intend to do lemon juice, etc. as described here.

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Anna B (Charlottesville ) on 11/21/2021
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Flushes DO work—I did 5 so far and they kept me from a gallbladder surgery and returned my vitality!

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Wyandotte (Canada) on 03/24/2018 16 posts

Of course gallstones would melt if heat was applied. Most "stones" are not made from mineral, they are chunks or balls of cholesterol. Cholesterol is wax. Wax melts when heated. However, I myself did pass a handful of these things and there was a sort of tough grayish-white possibly mineral skin around them. How would a flush cause THAT?

The following statement is from the Mayo Clinic:

"The most common type of gallstone, called a cholesterol gallstone, often appears yellow in color. These gallstones are composed mainly of undissolved cholesterol, but may contain other components. Pigment gallstones. These dark brown or black stones form when your bile contains too much bilirubin."

Apple Juice

Posted by Liz (Hollywood, Ca.) on 02/21/2013
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I was doing very well prior to slipping back into eating out. Little by little it seems to build and bam, attack!! The Stone has been released!

I noticed that table bread for me in any amount should be avoided at all cost. I also noticed that excessive fat content in one or two meals in a day will bring it on.

I am doing a flush now with Organic Apple Juice. I drink warm/hot water in the morning with Lemon Juice. I am sticking to mostly vegi's and rice during the Flush. I am doing this Flush with the help of a Dr and a Nutritionist. I am taking a bile thining supplement. I am tying to eat healthy fat and do not have an issue with Real Organic Butter or Salt in moderation with vegi's. I did this flush before and flushed many Stones. Yet, it dawned on me after eating a slightly escallating amount of trigger foods which I am probably also alergic to, I was passing a stone. The Apple Juice is a miracle disolvent for Stones. After an attack rest your body because there is so much going on with the Bile Duct. Drink Apple Juice and try to stay stress free. Eat carefully.

If I have to have surgery but with more disapline and time, MAYBE I can avoid it because I also contemplate the what if's. You know, what if it the start of hospital surgeries. I have read that if your healthy and your bloodwork shows high levels resulting from an attack then you may be able to heal by eating a better diet. Potatoes (Gold) seem to also be a miracle food for some reason. Good luck with your health.

I read last night that it takes years for stones to develope. If you have cleaned up your diet and you go back to eating something you are not use too you will trigger a potential stone release. You have to dissolve the stones and you have to eat healthy fat. The Gallbladder needs good fat.. That's it's job. I underworked mine. I didn't eat good or bad fat just refined breads and sugar over the years and minimal vegtables. I love carb's.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Jeanette (Australia) on 10/23/2015

Hi Carole,

I'm in the same boat as you. Scanned proof of a 2.5 cm stone in my gall bladder. I have been searching for ways to remove it and have also been advise not to do a flush, as the stone is too big. I'm now basically vegan and taking liberal amounts of apple cider vinegar and apple juice. also been told fragrant herbs in cooking is good along with tea's such as peppermint and dandelion. My search about chanca piedra brought me here. I am very interested to hear your experience and others also.

Apples

Posted by Polly Dunlop (Scotland ) on 08/08/2022
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If you cannot take the apples, then use cloudy apple juice fresh in cartoons, and take a glass morning and night for two weeks before you do the actual cleanse. if you are in pain take a tablespoon of ACV with 8 ounces of Cloudy Apple juice sip slowly over 20 mins, and that will take away the pain. This worked for me.

Apples

Posted by M Wong (Hong Kong) on 02/07/2017

What size of stone did you flush? Do I need to care what size of stone it is inside? What did you feel during the 2nd night? Did you go to toilet too often? Did you take any epsom salt? Many Thanks.

Apples

Posted by Millie (Florida) on 08/28/2018

Wow, I have one stone as far as I know, I really am desperate to get rid of it. It causes me too much pain. Especially when I consume fatty foods,, it kills me. The next day. Thank you for sharing this!

Produce Bile

Posted by Prioris (ME) on 06/01/2026
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On rare occasion, I will feel a slight pain near my gallbladder,

I interpret that to mean my bile flow is getting sludgy.

I use the supplement TUDCA as a preventive just in case.

TUDCA will create more bile flow and thin it out.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Celt33 (Toronto, On, Canada) on 05/15/2011
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L. M. I have been using the Chanca Piedra from AOR for about 2 weeks now and about 90% of the symptoms are gone. I take one capsule 3 times a day on an empty stomach.

Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by Peteria (Georgia) on 10/21/2015

Liz, what's the recipe for the flush? Been experiencing pain from gallstones for years. ACV works, but I want to get rid of them once and for all. Thanks, P.

Olive Oil and Lemon Juice

Posted by Dan (Hollywood, Fl, U.S.A.) on 09/04/2010
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I have been flushing my gallbladder on occasion for the last approximately 18 years simply using 10-12 ounces of olive oil taken a few ounces every 15 minutes followed by a sip of lemon juice.

I am a 52 year-old male, 6 ft. Tall, 150 pounds. I have been a Vegan for 27 years, eating a mostly raw food diet. Yet, I still get a gallbladder full of
Gallstones periodically (twice in the last 4 years.) I had always attributed this to occasionally eating foods cooked in oil or roasted nuts, as these indulgences would result in either a gallbladder attack or extreme discomfort. However, everything I have been reading says that these green wax-like stones are comprised mainly of cholesterol which my girlfriend informed me only comes from animal products. Therefore my experience tells me that the cholesterol theory may be incomplete. In my search to eliminate gallstone producing fats from my diet I stopped eating "raw" cashews because they are heated in the shelling process and so are actually not raw. Does anyone have any ideas on why non-cholesterol eating people get gallstones?

Milk Thistle, Dandelion

Posted by Glight (Hattiesburg, Ms, Usa) on 05/13/2010
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For Maria in Shreveport--I have had Gallbladder problems as well. I have wonderful success with Milk Thistle and Dandelion. You can find the two as a mixture in capsule form in a good Vitamin Store. I also take a high grade Acidoph at night on empty stomach,and ACV in my water bottle-about a teaspoon for half litre. I drink 2 a day. She may also check for gluten sensitivity and too much omega 6. Good Luck!

Parsley

Posted by Nicole (Geneva, Switzerland) on 03/11/2009
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tomato juice garlic cayenne pepper and lemon juice cured my sinuses

CURE FOR GALLSTONES
INGREDIENTS:
2 Bunches of fresh Parsley

Boil 2 bunches of Fresh Parsley into 1 litre of Water and drink during the day. Add whatever you like to make it go down in a more pleasant way. I like lemon for example. The most important with Gallstone is to dring a MINIMUM of 2 litres of water a day.

The parsley tea can be boiled and drunken cold or hot.

Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Magnesium

Posted by Bee (New York) on 02/19/2016

Angie... (Gallstones)

No, I never had an ultrasound for gallstones.. I try and stay away from western medicine. I did have really bad pain exactly where the gallbladder is.. I checked a dozen sites about it.. plus since I expelled them they looked exactly like stones so I am assuming they are stones lol.. some were huge.. anyway; what I did was put half glass of apple juice in a glass and then two tablespoons of apple cidar vinegar. braggs organic and I drank it.. maybe once a day..then I drank a few glasses of chanca piedra tea (stone breaker tea) but not every day.. maybe every two days.. well I noticed that the stones were coming out in the toilet with a BM.. as time went on and it was a few months the pain subsided more and more.. I didn't do the whole flush because I was afraid so this is what I did. it takes longer but its so worth it.. sometimes I also drink lemons in water...sometimes I never even measured that apple juice . I just do things by intuiton.

Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by Grace (Cairns, Australia) on 01/22/2006
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Yes I was suffering awful stabbing pains in the right side of my upper abdomen, I think it might have been a gallstone. However, after taking only one tablespoon of apple cider vineger in some warm water the pain has now gone.

BHT, Magnesium, and Clean Water

Posted by Ron (USA) on 07/19/2024 29 posts

Sorry for the late reply. The Magnesium I have used the last 6 years: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZX3M1Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Pure original Ingredients is the brand, magnesium chloride hexahydrate crystals.

My water system is a refurbished single filter R/O system. At the time of purchase it was 200.00 shipped. Water drop sells their other systems refurbished on amazon for cheap. Below is the link to the system I bought. Go to their amazon store and look at their refurbs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3QFRY3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by John (london) on 12/19/2021

Hi Reese, could you please share what exactly did your father do and what brand of ACV did he use? Thank you

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Bee (New York) on 04/30/2017
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Hi everyone,

Question please? I have been expelling large and small gallstones for about a year.. I used the apple cider vinegar and apple juice and chanca piedra tea and some healing tea.. I feel like there were hundreds of stones .. only thing I'm wondering so many and so long coming out does my body just keep making them?? Thank you if anyone knows??

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Bee (New York) on 05/07/2017

Hi Tim,

Thank you for the recommendations.. I am eating a lot of raw foods and its helping so I cant do chicken livers.. I am trying to always detox and it helps but it seems to be taking awhile or my body keeps making the stones.. the pain is almost gone now but I do feel stones at times.

I will do the MT as I am already doing the turmeric.. then I read turmeric causes stones. so much confusion.I will try the cough drops.. sounds easy enough.

Next I will work on the liver.. as far as fungus not sure since I eat organic raw fruits and veggies.. but I will def. check into it.

Thank you so much

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Bea (Ny) on 06/07/2017

Thanks fmg and Mama and Tim for your kind responses and anyone else I missed.

Thanks for the info.. I will look into the bio identical hormones..

I do exercise as much as I can...sleeping is on and off and I do tai chi and meditate for stress but yes I do have stress..

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Millie (Florida ) on 08/28/2018

Wow, I am happy you did not let that doctor operate on you. I would of DONE the same. Thanks for sharing this! God bless!

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Jean (Old Glory, Tx) on 01/15/2022

Why do they have to take out the gall bladder? Can't they just take the stone out and stitch it back?

Jean

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Panem et circenses (Florida) on 05/22/2025

I would like to know this, as well. If I ever had to have surgery for it, I would rather have the stones sucked out than a whole organ removed.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Brigid (Robertsdale, AL) on 06/11/2026
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I have made a tincture with it. Gather the whole fresh aerial parts (leaf, stem, ) when the plant has just formed the "stone/ball" seed pods underneath the leaf, while the whole plant is still fresh and green. Chop up, fill up a jar leaving about an inch of space at the top and either cover with vodka, or a mixture of pure grain alcohol diluted with purified, distilled, or spring water. I did pure grain alcohol diluted with 25% spring water, so a 75% PGA and 25% spring water ratio. Shake once a day for first week or two, and then let sit for at least 6 weeks in a darkened place. Make sure plant material is always submerged in the alcohol. Strain after 6 to 8 weeks.

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Carolyn (Melbourne, Australia) on 07/10/2015
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About 3 months ago I started getting reflux off and on. 2 weeks ago I came down with a heavy cold, and about 6 days ago the reflux got really bad and I also had gallbladder pain. I have had gall bladder pain before, several years ago and cured it then with a liver diet, and grapefruit juice and olive oil.

With a bad cold, reflux and gall bladder pain I decided that my first line of attack needed to be my cold.

About 4 days ago I got serious with the cold cure- cod liver oil- 1 desert spoon full, Rose Hip Vital- 3 capsules, colloidal silver- 1 dessertspoon full and olive leaf extract- 1 dessertspoon full. I did this about 4 times per day, away from food.

In between, I also took about a desert spoon full of casa casa seeds in water about 3 times per day. They are a special type of poppy seed that I get from the Indian grocery store. You put them in water and they go gluggy and expand. After 2 days of this treatment my cold was quite a bit better as I had expected....but the funny thing is that my reflux and gall bladder pain has COMPLETELY disappeared!

I don't know what did it, but knowing how difficult to treat and common reflux and gall bladder problems are, I would say this cure is worth pursuing for anyone in pain and discomfort.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Lottiecandy (Singapore) on 07/21/2016

I just bought some chanca piedra since I am feeling some pain under my right breastbone.. it's 500 mg per capsule. I am currently taking 3 caps a day.. do you think that's enough to dissolve the stones?? how many a day is recommended? Please advise. thanks

Vinegar and Honey

Posted by Heather (Cincinnati, Ohio ) on 04/27/2014
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I have recently been dealing with gallstone pain after indulging in certain foods. Last night I was in a panic with terrible pain and on the verge of visiting the ER. I have visited this site before for the kidney stone remedy, with great success and decided to try the vinegar remedy. However, I only had white vinegar at 11pm at night. I decided to try it mixed with water and honey. IT WORKED!!!!! Thank you!

Apple Cider Vinegar, Vitamin D

Posted by Joe (London) on 07/15/2020

Hi,

Can you please share the detailed instructions about how exactly you did this ACV protocol? Did you drink like 333ml (1/3rd of a quart) per day for 3 days? Did you dilute the ACV with anything? Did you divide in smaller doses? Did you eat/drink anything else beside the ACV during those 3 days?

Please could you please detail your protocol exactly, I really want to try it... What does vitamin D have to do with gallstone prevention? Thank you.

Banana Stems

Posted by Suji (Kerala, India) on 10/27/2013

Banana Stem (available in Indian stores) is a great remedy for gallstones. Can be eaten raw or cooked. If eating raw, slice it thin and eat it. Remove the fibery stuff that comes when you slice.

Epsom Salt

Posted by Rachel (Valley Park, Mo) on 09/18/2013

Hi, I read here about the Epsom salt together with lemon, olive oil and apple juice for Gallstone flush. Can you pls let me know where I can buy the Epsom salt coz the Epsom salt that I have been looking on the internet are for bathing, not edible. Thanks! Rachel

General Feedback

Posted by Jotay (Mishawaka, In) on 08/15/2013

I was diagnosed with gallstones today and told I need to get my gallbladder out. They wanted to schedule me with a surgeon. I said no, I want to wait. I don't have insurance, but mainly I don't want surgery!

I have read so much on here and everyone seems to have horrible pain. I haven't had bad pain. All I really have is a miserable icky feeling in my upper stomach. Like I ate a huge meal and it is just sitting there... Sometime feels rancid. It's truly awful. I dont read on here about anyone else experiencing this. So a part of me is wondering if my symptoms are something else, aside from the stones.

I asked the nurse on the phone the if the stones were big and she called me back after talking to the dr and said he didnt say. Gotta love that. So I have no idea.

I have terrible back pain regularly and don't sleep well on normal nights so the cleanse concerns me because I cant lay still or sleep. So how do I do that. Also what if the stones are big? will I be able to pass them?

So many questions.... Any advice?

General Feedback

Posted by Ed2010 (Canada) on 08/16/2013

Try the following juice therapy in any fashion.

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/gallstones5.html#JUICE

Drink at least 2 litres of juice daily, combination of un pasteurized apple juice, lemon juice, tamarind juice, Apple cider vinegar with water. Drink 1 chanca piedra tea daily, to break the stone. Gall stone pain will symptom in pain starting from right chest to the back. Also, cramp and pain starting from right shoulder till the forearm. Take rest for the whole week as you will be continuously peeing when you are in juice therapy. This is a very safe therapy and you will not loose any minerals as you are replenished with minerals from apple juice, lemon juice, carrot juice. Good Health

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Steve (Nv) on 03/25/2018

I hope this clears it up about gallstones:

https://www.drclarkinfocenter.com/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses/advanced_livere_cleanse.php

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Rei (Venice, Fl, Usa) on 03/19/2013

Stevenson & Carole: I found a very interesting website and hope you'll have some time to take a look. It's a journey that one man took to save his gallbladder as well. While he has not had a follow up scan, he states that he is completely symptom free. I may incorporate some of his suggestions while keeping up with my bean consumption.

http://keepingmygallby.wordpress.com/

I don't know about how you both handled this, but I'm finding it extremely hard to eat anything more than these beans! Other than my morning coffee and cream which I absolutely can not give up. That is my drug of choice! I grind my beans every morning and when I want true decedance, I enjoy my cream and espresso's with my Nespresso machine. Granted, I cut my consuption down to 2 cups a day, but I refuse to give it up. :-)

Carole, I'm a bit concerned about the tamarind. Although I actually have tamarind paste in my pantry as I type, I did a very brief search and found that while it helps the liver, it is not so good for one that has gallstone issues. Here are 2 links that I stumbled across. Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly? http://www.botanical-online.com/english/tamarind_properties.htm & http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16041099

I did however come across some unnerving info in regards to legumes and gallbladder, which I would like some input/opinioins. I will continue this regimen knowing what Stevenson has experienced, but still somewhat concerned.

http://www.encognitive.com/node/5315
http://www.livestrong.com/article/72576-foods-avoid-fatty-gallbladder/
http://www.nutripeople.com/condition/gallstones

Let me know what you think...

Thanks, Rei :-)

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Stevenson (Vancouver, Bc, Canada) on 03/19/2013

Rei, thanks for your info. I will read the links you posted tonight, but don't be discouraged. I have read so many pages about all the things we should not eat as they will give us more problems with gallstones etc etc and I just decided that I don't want to restrict myself that way. I should be able to eat healthy food and not just cut away everything that seems ok to eat. By stumbling on the legumes regime, it made the most sense to me and has worked wonders that I could have never imagined for my body. The results speak for themselves.

As far as having a hard time eating more than the beans, well, I just mixed my veges, fruit etc in the bean portions so when I had the six times a day beans, it also included everything else I needed, so I was just fine. It takes a little bit of discipline, but not much. Every other day, I had a little oats with blueberries as well, as I was already full from my bean dishes.

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Carole (Bury Village, West Sussex,, England) on 03/20/2013

You have certainly posted a lot of relevant information which I have only had time to quickly scan. I will read more thoroughly at the weekend. Some of the information is completely at odds with other comments I have read.

As to tamarind.... it was posted here and when I looked it was good for 'gallbladder disorders' and also for lowering cholesterol.

I settled get confuddled by all the information.

As to eating the beans.... I find it hard to eat the six portions spread throughout the day.... Which is complete contradiction to the protocol I had just started.... Trying to reduce the number of smaller meals to 'encourage the gallbladder to fill completely between meals.

As to coffee.... consumption of moderate amounts of coffee (weith or without caffeine) and/or other herbs that promote bile flow.

I will comment further when I have read all your postings... thank you.

Gallby has done exceptionally well! Wish he had the scan though.

p.s. Having problems typing this up - not sure what will appear?

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Stevenson (Vancouver, Bc, Canada) on 03/20/2013

Rei, thanks again for the links you posted. My scan is April 8, so lets see what it shows and then go from there I guess. Dr. Oz this week talked about soluble fiber and just how important it is for us and my case confirms this too. He mentioned I think it was one week a month to go a week with as much soluble fiber as you can, so he must know something those links you posted perhaps missed?

The internet can drive me nuts sometimes as there will always be someone somewhere bashing everything that is healthy for us, so I do my best to try and keep an open mind and use good reason and go from there.

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Rei (Venice, Fl, Usa) on 04/15/2013

Stevenson & Carole,

It's been a quite some time since I've been here. I was doing well on the bean protocol, but fell off the bandwagon about 2 weeks ago. Here in the US it's "tax time", so my schedule has been ridiculous to say the least (I am a bookkeeper w/several clients). Today is the deadline, and I just remembered to file for myself!

Although I fell off schedule, I have managed to have beans every day. I've cleaned up my diet pretty well, adding tons of fresh raw veggies, Quinoa, and I have had very little animal products. In the last month, I've had a 2 meals with actual animal meat, per se. I had a few shrimp one night and some chicken another. Up until this weekend, I have felt complete relief of any nagging pain and discomfort. Then came the pizza, with all the cheese and fat. I paid dearly for that move. Obviously I need to get back on the bean protocol full force. It's a shame really, had I stuck with it completely I would be in the last segment of it.

Carole, how are you doing with things? Any noteable changes for you?

Stevenson, did you get your results back from the scan?

I've added raw beets to my food intake yesterday, after that horrid attack. Perhaps that will help me as well. Who knows...

Soluble Fiber

Posted by Carole (Bury Village, West Sussex,, U.k.) on 04/16/2013

Hi Rei! My gb area seems fine.... If you see my post re heartburn you will see I have now started a different set of problems! ?!

I did 5 weeks of the high legume protocol and don't know if that has contributed to the heartburn problem as legumes are acidic ? So having a week off from lots of beans and then will have another go. Was waiting to hear from Stevenson- see how things went with the scan.

I didn't really get any useful feedback from Karen Hurd.... whether there is any evidence of the legume therapy actually working.

The only thing I can say from your post.... At least you know that you can do better! And what foods still create problems!

I'll let you know what my gb surgeon says after Friday. I really want to keep the gb. Sadly I was turned down for the Chinese surgery because of my wonky thyroid issues. My U. K. Surgeon says he can perform surgery to remove the stone.... But doesn't recommend it because of the increased risk of bile leakage!

I don't know some days..... what else is there to try?

Take care.

:-)Carole

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Louwrence (Rustenburg, North West, South Africa) on 02/17/2013

Hi Carole, I know that the liver flush removes g/stones, because I have done it numeruos times & it is quick & no fuss, just 2 days, Hulda Clarks method is simple & it works.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 02/18/2013 2041 posts

Carole: Is your GS a Calcium, Cholesterol, or mixed??? I have done several gb flushes over the yrs with many small and medium sized, but it was only about a yr ago I did a flush and passed a few small stones and one as large or larger than your 3cm. I was somewhat shocked at the size and that I had successfully passed it. It appeared to be mostly cholesterol but could have had some calcium, although I didn't closely examine. I don't do the passive method of simply laying down on the left side. I take a roll of toilet tissue (a few minutes fallowing the oil/lemon drink) place it directly over the gb, pull my thigh over the tissue, and squeeze quite hard (with help from hands n arms); wait a few minutes and repeat a few times. This active method literally "forces" the stone to pass.

Try this method in the early morning, and if in a rare occasion the stone gets stuck in the bile duct, you can make a quick dash to the emergency medical clinic for removal.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Carole (Bury Village, West Sussex,, England) on 02/18/2013

Blimey Timh - you're brave! However, this is just the sort of support I need! People who have actually passed large stones. I am told mine is calcified. I am sure if it was cholesterol - then with the protocol I have been on - it would have changed.

I have been using beetroot; dandelion coffee; lecithin granules; tamarind; milk thistle; lemon juice; peppermint oil; chanca piedra; gold coin grass; chamomile..... All can dissolve calcified gallstones!

I just wonder if I need to be on higher doses? My CP capsules says one 50mg a day. However, an earlier post from Bill suggests 100mg x 3 times a day! A big difference. I'll have a talk through options with the herbalist/acupuncturist tomorrow. However, it is this lady who is cautioning me against flushing with such a large stone!

I won't give up yet. Thanks for your input.

Carole

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Maz. (Uk) on 06/22/2016

Could you please tell me which brand you bought?

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Posted by Brenda (New York , New York) on 02/09/2013
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Hi, I was diagnosed with a gallstone 2 yrs ago. Just 1 1.5cm approx and opted not to have the gall bladder out. It doesn't makes sense to me. However, I don't really know what I'm doing and I may be causing more problems. I have never eaten fried food or any sweets since. Meat is mainly salmon, chicken, turkey or occasionally lamb No animal stocks, only vege. I get some olive oil or avocado daily for fat. I make all of my own meals. I recently I had my first major attack in 2years, but I did not have any fat at all. I made a pizza with fat free cheese for dinner and about 2hrs later it started, lasted the typical 4hrs and subsided. That was really confusing. And since then, I have constant irritation. Maybe it's alot of gases, however, Otherwise I eat mainly organic diet, with a good amount of fresh veges and fruit, and sip water throughout the day. I am commited to keeping the gallbladder, but, I don't know how to keep from having problems.

I recently started Lecithin gel capsules with olive leaf before I go to bed. I take vit D3 and calcium in the am. Also, my weakness is occasional creme in my coffee and on the weekends a couple glasses of wine. Can some one explain why the wine is bad? When it was originally diagnosed, by a gastro he wanted to take it out becaue as he said that's what they do. The U/S showed the 1 stone and multiple calculi that were so small they could not be measured. Beyond surgery he would not assist me, so I'm in the dark. I took acupuncture for about 6 months and chinese herbs which caused me to PAINLESSLY pass the calculi. It had no effect on the larger stone. I lost my job and could not afford to continue. I will start the Chanca Piedra this week, but can someone advise me on navigating this alone? I don't want to hold onto the gallbladder and and damage other areas.