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Tonight I used tweezers (My fingernails too short) and removed the most prominent ones.
Was using essential oils before the garlic and was slowly fading them.
Petty Spurge
Iodine
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
Saw your post of 2016. So you say the eggplant BEC treatment is pretty good, and safer. I've been reading how aggressive the black salve can be.
I came across mixing vitamin c and dmso. I understand that dmso becomes a transporter for other things, and that one has to take precaution using it, since it opens up the area to which one applies it to, but also very effective. When I read this I became a bit scared to use it. I just received some in the mail along with my vitamin order, and only did a skin patch test. I can tell it's rather strong, because the arm I did the test on, I could feel my elbow itching and tingling later on. Did you use vitamin c with the dmso? O.K., thank you for the information shared.
It is so good to read others experiences using different protocols.
Margeaux
Preventing BCC
Nowhere in either of the previous posts did I see any mention of their diet, nor sedentary lifestyle. Sure, everyone ideally should work on themselves to that end. But we don't have to sound so soap boxish about it either.
Margeaux
Petty Spurge
Bloodroot
Not trying to rain on your parade, but blood root is a very strong remedy. Right now, I have a spot near my right eye that I am addressing with Cureaderm. Maybe, I should let my Dermatologist address this problem. A short while ago I took off a spot on my shoulder with Cureaderm. If it is not cancer, it will not affect your skin. You do not have to get a biopsies, because the treatment will tell you. Basel Cell is one thing, but Squamous Cell is another. Both are skin cancers, but not equal.
I wish you well. ====ORH==
Bloodroot
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The first time I removed my bcc, I used ACV soaked in a cotton ball and taped it to my BCC every night. After a few days it turned red and after about a month I was BCC free.
The second time I removed my bcc, it was close to my eyes, so I used baking soda with coconut oil 1 tbsp each mixed and made a paste and applied it to the area. After about 2 weeks I was bcc free. I had to deal with scabbing and redness but after that I'm bcc free.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Bloodroot
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A dermatologist diagnosed my spot next to my nose (quite close to my eye). I decided not to see a surgeon but to try something natural. I googled Black salve and decided to give it a go. It's not available in shops but I managed to find someone who makes it locally.
I first used a buffpuff to roughen up the area on my nose and then applied the Black salve covered with a plaster. The spot was average size but raised. I covered more of my nose than just the spot. Within 24 hours it was bubbling yellow liquid out. I thought well this is good. When I removed the plaster the area was very sensitive. I didn't get a nice neat eschar like I had seen on someone elses post but instead when the yellow crust had been washed off gradually (when the area was not very sore anymore) I had quite a scar.
Well I thought, at least I got it all out.
Now around the scar I have a couple of tiny spots and a larger one on top area. Does this mean it's back? I don't want to use Black salve again in case my scar splits open. As a side note I also had a sore inside my nose slightly lower down from the original spot. This would gather mucous and it was sticky. I wonder if this is connected?
My main question is should I now do the Apple cider vinegar. What can I expect? Must I soak cotton on it or can I just dab?
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
General Feedback
It is not sound logic to say if it didn't work for you that you don't believe in it that it won't work for anyone.
Unfortunately one of the worst things for your health is negativity.
Countless people on this forum have indeed had healing from a multitude of health issues by improving their pH.
I don't recommend that you read about them though and make your blood pressure rise.
I hope you find relief from your afflictions soon.
Peace,
Serene
General Feedback
Cansema
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Red Wine Vinegar
Cansema
Preventing BCC
Apple Cider Vinegar, Baking Soda, Vitamin C
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I got another one above my lip and along my hairline. I treated them the same and again my husband made me biopsy. All clear! I told him I healed 3 so I will not biopsy any more because it is 2 cuts, 1 to diagnose and 1 to prove to him it is clear. He is very cautious because he had one on his back that required mohrs surgery so he couldn't believe I was able to cure my own. He then got another one on his back and gave me the opportunity to "Witch doctor" on him. It took about 2 months to cure his simply because he would vascilate between whether he believed it would work or not but I convinced him to at least let me try before his appointment and now it is all clear. 😊
IF you use the treatment faithful 2 times a day, it should honestly not take more than 2-3 weeks to clear up but I know depending on location, you can't walk around with a white paste.
Preventing BCC
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Preventing BCC
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If you have sun damaged skin there is good evidence now of usage of vitamin B3 and curcumin (both orally and topically), see Sydney Uni studies etc. They may also work on already established BCCs (even my very left brained doctor told me about trying these). My skin cancers have almost halted since I used these and Vit C in past years.
If you are 'told' to use Aldara, PLEASE google it! I have ended up with Parkinson's disease, unfixable vision loss, shingles/ postherpetic neuralgia (excruciating pain through 2/3 of my body), coeliac disease, skin rashes on chest and neck etc. As severe symptoms happened overnight on my last dose, I can connect the dots easily.
I tell the doctors as I don't want others to suffer, they all go into denial and cover it up (as they have prescribed it often for decades for BCC or genital warts). I post this info on medical websites and it does not get posted (they are 'selective'). I don't want others to suffer :) Better to get cut out if need (the surgeons are pretty good stitchers often! ) Otherwise use Aldara minimally. There are class action court cases.
Cansema
You may have seen Ole Robert Henry's posts here on Earth Clinic. He has posted a great eggplant recipe that may help. Janet
Cansema
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I have used cansema for my basal cell carcinoma. Initially, 3 years ago I had to use it 2 times and it worked great, but about 6 months ago it came back in the same place, so I used cansema again, but now the cancer keeps returning again and again. So I have to find another way to get rid of it.
Has anyone else had a basal cell cancer that keeps coming back, and tried something else that worked? I would appreciate any advice.
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Petty Spurge
Very much appreciate your detailed explanation of how the bloodroot plant works. You have done a huge amount of research and are obviously and expert in this area. I had no prior knowledge of this process and can see it does seem quite arduous compared to the petty spurge treatment. I wonder if you have found it is as effective, considering the amount of preparation involved? I think I'll stick with the latter as it certainly seems a little more manageable. As per your notes, I did have that issue of a small crater forming on my nose after, perhaps, one too many applications. Thankfully, the skin grew over in a few weeks but definitely something to be careful with.
Picato is extremely expensive and $600 per pack would not surprise me at all! Having treated myself with both the gel and the herb, I can honestly say the results were both positive - the noticeable point of differentiation being that the latter was free!
NB: I did pay $12 for seeds as my initial and one off investment!
Petty Spurge
Yes, you can definitely be forgiven for that!
Took me a while to get over the shock too but now it doesn't bother me. Good luck with your next treatment!
Petty Spurge
You are most welcome. Hope it's working for you too!
Petty Spurge
The fresh dark-red sap from the bloodroot plant is comparatively much weaker than the petty spurge, requiring several applications over the day. The bloodroot sap can be evaporated down to a tar, applied as a blob, then covered by a bandaid to help its effectiveness; or the tar can be combined with glycerine and a skin-softening adjunct, such as zinc chloride, to help its attack against the skin malady. DMSO is added by some who make their own salve. The belief is that DMSO helps the destructive agents penetrate to the 'root' of the nasty. Most formulators buy the dried bloodroot powdered; then add water and the other agents, gently cooking it all down to a 'mud'. Again, you put on a blob and cover it with a bandaid and within about 12 hours you feel the dull but increasing ache of the resultant skin-necrosis. Within a day or so the site of the problem looks so amazingly bad that anyone seeing it will tell you to get to the hospital. But the 'mud' has done it's work and all that redness and hurt will slowly go away as the good surrounding skin expels the necrosis.
Some claim bloodroot will only kill bad skin. It does destry weaker skin first; but given enough time it will also attack 'good' skin.
It is typical to develop actinic or other skin damage spots on the nose. I would advise one never apply a bloodroot salve to the nose, as the actual skin layer is so very thin that the resulting necrosis can produce an actual hole into your nasal cavity. Instead, I use a single drop of petty spurge which will destroy only the outer skin-layer. If the nasty returns, again use only the single application of the spurge. Applying the sap three times in three days can result in a hole, also. One has more 'surgical' control with the spurge.
If you have plenty of Greater Celandine growing nearby then a similarly effective concoction can be gleaned through trial-and-error. The orange sap of the greater celandine contains the same destructive alkaloid as bloodroot.
The dandelion and common milkweed plants (of the USA) also have a caustic effect on damaged skin, but are so much weaker when pitted against that tiny droplet of petty spurge.
I've read where the Picato gel costs nearly $600 in the US.
Petty Spurge
Petty Spurge
Petty Spurge
I think the herb has varying degrees of effectiveness for each user. In a survey they conducted in Australia using ingenol mebutate (produced by Petty Spurge) to treat non-melanoma skin cancers, they had an 85% success rate. That's pretty impressive but still means 15% of users found it to be ineffective. For myself, a 3 day application was ample. I never went beyond that schedule as I didn't need to. If you say it didn't work for you then I guess you might be in that 15% category, but since you had the expected reaction to the initial treatment it does seem strange that you didn't get the desired result.
Maybe someone reading this forum can answer that as I'm a little lost as to why it didn't work for you.
Petty Spurge
Curious what you did after a once-a-day three-day application. Mine was a two year battle so maybe it would have needed more after the initial 3 days.
Just trying to know how this works!
Petty Spurge
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the bloodroot approach but would like to learn more about that if you have time to elaborate?
Like you, I use the Petty Spurge sap for 3 days straight and - like you - find the 3rd day to be the most uncomfortable, albeit a mild discomfort when compared to the surgical "cut & stitch" alternative I endured multiple times over previous years!
I live in Western Australia and have found the plants thrive from the fall through to spring. They don't enjoy our long hot summers very much but seem to endure and self-seed regardless. A truly remarkable herb that seems to need very little care and attention once propagated. I've also had limited success collecting the sap and preserving it.
I did find a cottage business here that seems to have done this - although I think they may have added sorbolene to increase the volume.
Interestingly, I discovered this little plant after being prescribed a topical treatment called "Picato" by my dermatologist. One small tube allowed for 3 treatments and cost me A$140! It worked well, but I figured to treat all my BCC's over time would amount to thousands of dollars, so I researched the key ingredient in Picato and found it to be "ingenol mebutate" - and guess what the key component of Petty Spurge sap happens to be?
I know you can find the plant growing in the wild but as I was not well versed in identifying it, I located a reputable supplier and invested all of A$12 for a healthy batch of seeds. I now have a long term supply growing in my backyard.
Petty Spurge
Yes, I went through the surgical approach, like you, until they started to run out of areas on my body to add new scars to!
The Petty Spurge sap topical treatments have left me scarless - although the first time I used it, I was concerned it might leave me with rather large pockmarks.
I applied the sap for 3 days straight - at roughly the same time each day. First day was an almost immediate reaction (but not painful), 2nd day was more reactive and definitely sensitive. 3rd day I almost felt I had overdone it! Once you get over the shock (and ignore too much visual contact with family & friends who suspect you might have a communicable disease! ) it really becomes very manageable. The open wounds created by the application will dry out and scabs will drop off (along with the BCC's) in a matter of days. For oversensitive skin a mild application of antiseptic cream after the 3rd day does help.
The key to this is only treating one BCC at a time. Any more than that can become quite irritating.
I have not tried alternative approaches such as black salve, eggplant extract, etc. I'm sure these are all effective in their own right as people on this forum will attest to, but for me, personally, Petty Spurge sap has been extremely effective and has helped me manage my ongoing battle with non-melanoma skin cancers with confidence.
Petty Spurge
I've been growing petty spurge around my home since 2009. I also grow bloodroot but of the two I prefer the spurge for ridding those skin maladies that arrive through age and exposure to the face and neck. A tiny drop of the white sap destroys the outer layer of just about any odd growth and the scab peels away in 7-days, revealing fresh new tissue. Sometimes that single droplet is not enough and the critter grows back; however, doing the same three-days in a row effectively gets to the root of deeper growths. It does ache a bit when you go that 'extra mile', in similar to a bloodroot salve.
The spurge will grow and die back at least twice each Summer. It can be grown indoors if needed for the Winter. The tiny seeds are not harmed by the intense Winters hereabouts.
Every year I attempt to harness the chemical within the plant, so as to have it available in a bottle or salve. So far, I have only managed a weak effect requiring numerous applications --the full power derived via that fresh teensy droplet from the living plant yet alludes me.
Petty Spurge
I'd love to hear how you use it, or rather, it's sap.
Petty Spurge
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I just discovered this wonderful site so forgive my ignorance if this topic has been extensively covered. I noticed that a lot has been written here about using Petty Spurge (euphorbia peplus) for successfully curing warts but I have been using it for several years now to treat non-melanoma skin cancers. Having grown up on the beaches of Australia, I have suffered most of my adult life from the effects of both basal and squamous cell carcinomas and have had extensive (and invasive) excisions and curettage treatments to remove frequent growths. After intense research I tracked down some Petty Spurge herb seeds from a reputable supplier and I now grow my own treatment. I still return for annual check ups with my local dermatologist (such is my paranoia for keeping this dreaded disease under control) but I have not had any need for traditional surgery since using this wonderful herb. Happy to elaborate if anyone would like more info!
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
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Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
I would definitely try the Vit C/Hyaluronic just to see what the reaction is. If you get a reaction it is good....if not, stick with traditional Dr. and treatment. I wish I had a better guarantee, but it seemed to work for me, but I cannot say it will work on Squamous cells.
Best advice I can try....I got everything online for less than 45 dollars, and it worked for me. Best 45 I ever spent. When I showed my Mother she was completely stunned.....she couldn't believe the reaction and how well it had worked. Neither could I....good luck to you, I wish I knew or could tell you more.
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
If I had to do it again, I would use h2o2, baking soda, ACV and green clay.
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
Now one big word of caution, do NOT use hyaluronic acid near that tumor! Hyaluronic acid makes the body tissues more easily breached by cancers which choose to go metastatic.
A very simple and safe cancer treatment is dmso applied several times a day. Wipe on with your clean finger NOT a Q-tip because of the glues used on the Q-tip being in contact with dmso.
Now one more caution. Doctors scare people telling them the sun gives you cancer therefore slather on tons of deadly carcinogenic sunscreen. Woops, hmmm sunscreen is carcinogenic? You bet it is. Very carcinogenic! More than 150 brands were tested and the vast majority had cancer causing agents in the formulation. Very few were safe and effective. Some of them are loaded with nano particulates which pose a severe danger! Nano materials penetrate through skin then travel to organs, the brain, and even find their way into cancer cells. Some sunscreens even had lead and mercury in them. In lab tests many animals got cancer from exposure to various sunscreens. The fda allows virtually anything to be put in cosmetics applied externally just like it didn't soak through and penetrate the skin.
Boral of the story: Be careful what goes on you, and be careful what goes in you.
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
Preventing BCC
Preventing BCC
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Baking Soda, Castor Oil, Hydrogen Peroxide
Castor oil oil has a good reputation in the healing of tumors and growths. Because of this, I would hesitate to substitute it with something else. I suspect it is a critical ingredient.
~Mama to Many~
Baking Soda, Castor Oil, Hydrogen Peroxide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uog1ouoAoys
Wish you well.========ORH=========
Baking Soda, Castor Oil, Hydrogen Peroxide
Eggplant, Apple Cider Vinegar
Vitamin C Sodium Ascorbate, Hyaluronic Acid
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I decided to try Vit C sodium ascorbate and hyaluronic acid. Basically about equal part vit c and HA and then add about 8 times the water until it becomes gel like without solid crystals. It is then saturated. I try to make small batches using about 1/4 tsp vit c and HA, with normally a teaspoon and a half of purified water....sometimes 2 tsp...not exact but it gels up. There are 2 types of vit c, sodium ascorbate and ascorbic acid.... supposedly your supposed to use the sodium version, although I started with the Ascorbic. The ascorbic after the first treatment turned my spot that had the tiny blisters crusty and black spotted....within 3 days it fell off.
As of now....about 11 days it has gotten a tad smaller, the blisters are gone and it has changed color to a more skin tone(normal). I can still see it...the other 2 I can barely see in bright light, but I know where they are so keep adding the vit c. Anyhow, I plan to do this for at least a month.....and I put it on at least once a day, but normally twice. I think we are supposed to do it 2 to 3 times a day.
Anyhow....that's it. I sent photos to my Mom who was rather surprised. I will check back as this progresses. Oh....I used the ascorbic acid and it seemed to work too....I started then switched as the hyaluronic recipe is actually a skin wrinkle recipe to help smooth skin. That's all I know as of now. Will check back.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Not receiving any feedback on how to apply, it seems to have grown bigger, please advise..
Basal Cell Carcinoma Remedies
I have the same type of infiltrative basal cell on my forehead. Wonder what treatments worked for you? Thanks!
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
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On the 21st of august I started to apply 3% H2O2 to the area with a Q-tip. I was very careful to only apply H2O2 to the scab and raised tissue area. I would apply H2O2 every hour and the H2O2 created a small depressed area in the skin about 3/8in in diameter all the scab was removed as well as the raised tissue that surrounded the scab.
I then applied a paste of baking soda and allowed it to dry. I covered the soda with a small band-aid. The area was very pink and the applications did sting a little. for the next 2 days I would apply H2O2 3 or 4 times a day, covering the area with baking soda and a band-aid.
On the 4 day I decided to intoduce ACV to the white scab that was about 3/8in diameter. The ACV turned the area black and apeared to dissolve part of the blackened area. I continued to apply ACV every cpl of hours on days 4 thru 6. After the dark scab was completely removed, I then kept applying baking soda paste on days 4,5,6,7,8
The baking soda seemed to assist with generating pink normal skin cells. On days 9 and 10 I left the area open to promote healing with the addition of a small amount of ointment to assist the healing process.
It is now day 11 and the 3/8in area is still slightly depressed but no scab exists or any raised tissue that formally surrounded the scab area. I do keep the 3/8in area covered with a very small band-aid and a tiny bit of ointment to keep the area soft. I am very encouraged by these results in only 11 days. There is still a slight depression of the 3/8in area but I am optimistic that this will slowly return to normal appearance in time.
I will continue to report any changes to the area that has been treated.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
And at what stage should I apply the Vit C & coconut oil paste? The cell looks enlarged and the crater bigger, it gets very sore after applying Vit C paste and stings & has a discharge. Please advise me.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Baking Soda, Peroxide
I started August 4th using organic apple cider vinegar, baking soda and hydrogen peroxide as a paste, alternating with fresh cut aloe vera (using the inside of the leaf) at night...securing either solution with a band aide. My nose looks horrible, due to the fact of more bcc there than what I'd hoped for. The area is puffy, red and just really looks bad. I believe I had read where it will get worse before it gets better. I'd love to post pictures of this process for two reasons, informative and feedback. Thank you for allowing me to join this discussion.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
Apply Povidone Iodine at least once daily. A synthetic Triple Antibiotic Ointment found at most pharmacies would likely help.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
What should I do?
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
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Now this is what I know ....from my experience
This is what I am doing
UNDERSTAND THIS IF YOU HAVE A CRATER LOOKING BCC THERE ARE ROOTS AROUND IT AS WELL...YOU CAN NOT SEE THEM ... BUT THEY ARE LURKING BENEATH YOUR SKIN.
I started with the apple cider viniger, slept with a cotton ball loaded with viniger on my forehead.
Dabbed peroxide on it thu the day many times and alternate with the vinegar.
Not only do I put it on the crater itself, but around the area about two inches.
I have been doing this since July 16, 2015
THIS IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED:
The large crater itself turned white, also bits keep coming out, another bcc appeared above the first one, this second one surfaced and is dying, around these bcc several small ones appeared, they are the roots. It looked like small dots at first..then came to the surface showing itself. The peroxide kills it because it dries it out, it cannot live, the apple cider viniger also kills it and soothes the skin.
I found that using the combo as much as possible works ...I sit and watch tv with a plastic cup and Qtip dabbing the peroxide on. I fan it to dry and add some more peroxide , 9 bcc have appeard and are dying off, just think how big of a scar I would have had if I did go for the MOHS
Depending on how long and deep the bcc is you may have a small scar, but better than a big one or having your eyes look weird because of the pull of the skin to repair your face.
About food: Sometimes, eating what your body doesn't like, builds up and builds up until it shows and tells you.
Red Wine Vinegar
As far as food goes, I don't think I'm eating anything different before the lesions.
Being blond/blue, and now 54 y/o and having many sunburns in the 70/80s I was thinking that may have something to do with the lesions. but most of the sunburns were on my arms, upper shoulders and back. no lesions there.
Thanks for the reply.
Red Wine Vinegar
Red Wine Vinegar
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Anyone have any suggestions of ridding myself of these things? - other than a doc which is a last resort.
Milk Thistle
I find that trying to identify herbs from pictures in books and on the internet to be difficult. As you observed, the pictures seem to contradict each other! I usually try to find a person who can easily identify herbs for me in person. (Not easy to find such a person.)
Milk Thistle does grow in Australia, so I wonder if "Australian" Milk Thistle is just identifying the harvest location?
When I am having trouble identifying or obtaining a specific herb for a health condition, I usually just try something else first.
There has also been some recent discussion here at Earth Clinic about using bentonite clay on BCC. It might be something to consider.
~Mama to Many~
Milk Thistle
Basal Cell Carcinoma Remedies
Namaste, Om
Basal Cell Carcinoma Remedies
Basal Cell Carcinoma Remedies
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General Feedback
General Feedback
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Baking Soda and Coconut Oil
Apple Cider Vinegar, Hydrogen Peroxide
for sure: no MOHs for me!
Veronica: this is late - but I use either peroxide OR apple cider vinegar.
all: I'm not sure that MOHs or peroxide or ACV Tx will cause further episodes. I believe that once we get it - we are prone to get it again. lucky thing is - it is slow growing.... Regarding eggplant cream and questionable websites - I think you're dealing with snake oil sales-sites - I prefer to stick to the basics. EC does not like 'naming names' but the ACV that I use starts with 'b' and is headquartered in California.
