Natural Remedies for Basal Cell Carcinoma: NAD+ Support & Topical BEC5

I just discovered this wonderful site so forgive my ignorance if this topic has been extensively covered. I noticed that a lot has been written here about using Petty Spurge (euphorbia peplus) for successfully curing warts but I have been using it for several years now to treat non-melanoma skin cancers. Having grown up on the beaches of Australia, I have suffered most of my adult life from the effects of both basal and squamous cell carcinomas and have had extensive (and invasive) excisions and curettage treatments to remove frequent growths. After intense research I tracked down some Petty Spurge herb seeds from a reputable supplier and I now grow my own treatment. I still return for annual check ups with my local dermatologist (such is my paranoia for keeping this dreaded disease under control) but I have not had any need for traditional surgery since using this wonderful herb. Happy to elaborate if anyone would like more info!

Turns out back in December 2010, I was premature declaring victory over the cancer on my nose. It did in fact come back once again a few weeks afterwards. I continued to fight it then, but I was unable to totally eradicate it. The problem was that the cancer had several roots and even though I'm pretty sure I got one of the roots out - the biggest one - the constant bleeding that is part of the normal attacking of the site with the h2o2 obscures the rest of the area, so that it was not easy to see where to strike these other roots residing in the same area.

After several months of this, I was becoming quite frustrated, and of course, the constant comments from family and friends everytime the new h2o2 attacks reopened the nose area leaving new scabs and worse that looked pretty horrendous, it was disheartening. Could they in fact be right - was this was finally beyond me, and did I need medical attention?

One physician treating my 94 year old mother looked at me, scanned closely, and volunteered more than once - and again as we left - that, yes, my nose needed to be looked at by a dermatologist.

Searching everywhere for new ideas, I came across Mike's (from Durham, NC) amazing report for his success Under Melanoma cures, against what may or may not have have been a Melanoma, with Melatonin mixed into coconut oil. This report by the way should be generally available on more than the melanoma site, as it applies to all skin cancers and skin issues. Mike reported success grinding melanoma pills into a powder and then a paste with coconut oil and rubbing it in.

I already had melatonin in powder in my capsules and I mixed it in coconut oil and tried it on the three sites on my nose. They succumbed within a week to ten days. It was amazing. Almost no bleeding and the white areas of unhealthy skin rubbed off each day, then every other day, eventually simply healed up with almost no fuss. I could hardly believe it after the months of constant battling and bleeding with the h2o2.

A small red spot appeared a few weeks ago and I treated it again quite easily. I at this point am declaring it finished. I still have a slight indentation - but nothing compared to the hole I had dug with the h2o2, and at least as good as the slight indentation left on the side of my forehead by the Moes surgery done by the Derm at Northwestern Med Center several years back. There's a slight color difference - slightly less pink, a little whitish in spots if you look closely - putting my face way up to the mirror, but generally it looks as normal as other slightly sun-damaged skin. You can't even tell there is an indentation actually unless you run your finger over the area, so I think I did a better job than the doctor, since that forehead indentation is visible if carefully viewed.

Thanks so much to Mike and of course for this wonderful, wonderful site which has helped so many of us help ourselves.

His students were reporting that they were being told this. “Wet table salt cures skin cancer”.

Fast forward to today… I was reading a book “Health at home, or, Hall's family doctor, by William Whitty Hall · 1876” and I read this;

Col. Ussery · 1876, of the parish of De Soto, in Louisiana(?), informs the editor of the Caddo Gazette, that he fully tested a remedy for this troublesome disease, recommended to him by a old Spanish woman, a native of the country had the reputation of curing cancers by making a salve of the yolk of an egg (the yellow part at the center of an egg);

The remedy is this: Take an Egg and break it; pour out the white, retaining the yolk in the shell; then put in Salt, and mix with the yolk as long as it will receive it; stir them together until a Salve is formed; put a portion of this on a piece of sticking-plaster by spreading a portion of it on linen or other material, and lay it over the spot and apply it to the cancer about twice a day. He has tried the remedy twice in his own family with complete success. This plaster must be renewed night and morning, until a cure is effected; the bowels being made to act freely every day.

Some I am thinking to myself, this is what Granny was telling me. Salt and Sea water is the oldest known form of medicine to human kind. Ever since man bathed in the ocean and noticed the some kind of skin rash was healed. Just google search “Sea Water Cure” and you will see my point.

Now if you investigate salt and it's use against cancer, you will find the following:

Salt for Skin Cancer: A new study, carried out in mice, focuses on salt. The researchers have successfully used sodium chloride nanoparticles to destroy cancer cells. Scientists — many from the University of Georgia, in Athens — are looking to sodium chloride, or salt, in nanoparticle form.

The authors of the new study, published in the journal Advanced Materials, tested their theory that “Sodium chloride nanoparticles (SCNPs) can be exploited as a Trojan horse strategy to deliver ions into cells and disrupt the ion homeostasis.”

“Unlike conventional chemotherapeutics, SCNPs cause immunogenic cell death or ICD. In vivo studies show that SCNPs not only kill cancer cells, but also boost an anticancer immunity. The discovery opens up a new perspective on nanoparticle‐based therapeutics.” https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/adma.201904058

SCNPs contain millions of sodium and chlorine atoms, but the ion channels responsible for keeping salt out do not recognize them in this form.

Consequently, SCNPs are free to enter the cell, and once inside, they dissolve, releasing sodium and chlorine ions that become trapped in the cell.

These ions disrupt cellular machinery and rupture the plasma membrane. As the cell membrane breaks open, the sodium and chlorine atoms are released. This, in turn, signals an immune response and inflammation.

Using a mouse model, the scientists tested their theory. They injected SCNPs into tumors and charted their growth. They compared the growth of these tumors with those of mice in a control group who had received the same quantity of sodium chloride in a solution, rather than as nanoparticles.

The team found that the SCNPs suppressed tumor growth by 66%, compared with the control group. Importantly, there were no signs that the SCNPs caused damage to any of the mice's organs.

This method appears to be safe. As associate professor and lead author Jin Xie, Ph.D., explains: “After the treatment, the nanoparticles are reduced to salts, which are merged with the body's fluid system and cause no systematic or accumulative toxicity. No sign of systematic toxicity was observed with SCNPs injected at high doses.” Source: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327468

Findings suggest common salt activates anti-tumor cells
Source: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-08-common-salt-anti-tumor-cells.html

Salt could help to boost the immune defense against cancer. This is suggested by the research findings of a team led by Prof. Dr. Christina Zielinski, who holds the Chair of Infection Immunology at the Friedrich Schiller University in Jena. The group presents its findings in Nature Immunology.

Sodium chloride, commonly known as "table salt, " was a valuable commodity in history. Today, table salt is cheap and indispensable in the kitchen. It is therefore not surprising that it has long since found its way into our everyday language—although not all expressions always bode well. However, the phrase "rubbing salt into the wound" could soon be given a positive twist, namely in cancer therapy.

In the past, cancer was usually a death sentence, but research has made considerable progress in recent decades and has significantly increased the survival time with a high quality of life for many types of cancer. Recently, adoptive T-cell therapy in particular has developed into an effective treatment tool.

Here, certain of the body's own white blood cells, the T cells, are modified in such a way that they can specifically recognize and fight tumor cells. The effectiveness of this method is influenced by the metabolic activity of the T cells, which is usually suppressed in the immunosuppressive environment of a tumor. It is therefore important to identify factors that overcome this suppression.

The team led by Christina Zielinski from the Leibniz Institute for Natural Product Research and Infection Biology—Hans Knöll Institute (Leibniz-HKI) in Jena has now discovered one of these factors: Sodium ions—a component of sodium chloride—increase the efficiency of antitumoral T cells. The researchers were able to show that breast cancer tumors have a higher sodium concentration than healthy tissue and that T cells act particularly strongly against tumors when the immediate environment has a higher sodium concentration. These patients then even have a longer survival time.

"We were able to show that sodium enhances the immune response of CD8+ T cells, " says Chang-Feng Chu, who is a first author of the study. CD8+ T cells are immune cells that can recognize and kill tumor cells or cells infected with viruses in the body.

"Previous research has already shown that sodium regulates other types of T cells involved in autoimmune diseases and allergies. We wanted to find out what effect sodium has specifically on the activity of human CD8+ T cells, " explains Shan Sun, another first author.

The researchers therefore used various technologies to investigate the effect of sodium ions on gene regulation and the metabolic process of CD8+ T cells. "We pre-treated the human T cells with salt and then cultured them with tumors. We also carried out mouse experiments with T cells, " Chu explains.

Immune cells become fitter

The researchers found that the salt improved the metabolic fitness of the CD8+ T cells by increasing the uptake of sugar and amino acids and thus energy production in the cells. As a result, the immune cells were better able to eliminate tumor cells, as the experiments on cell cultures and mice have shown. "Pancreatic tumors shrank in the mice after we injected them with T cells pre-treated with salt, " says Chu.

But how exactly does sodium work in the cell? "Sodium ions increase the activity of the sodium-potassium pump on the cell membrane of T cells. This leads to a change in the membrane potential, which in turn increases the activation of the T-cell receptor, " reports Sun. "This signal amplification makes it easier for the immune cells to kill tumor cells more efficiently."

Her colleague Chu adds, "The salt also protects the T cells from becoming exhausted too quickly. This is important because exhausted T cells gradually lose their ability to fight cancer cells."

The research team recommends using sodium chloride as a positive regulator for the "killer" function of T cells in future. Of course, this is not about patients consuming more salt in their diet. Rather, it is conceivable that the immune cells are exposed to an increased salt concentration outside the body and become highly active against tumor cells after being administered to the patients.

Ordinary table salt could therefore support adoptively transferred T cells in the fight against cancer and possibly also against infectious diseases that require a defense against infected cells. So, the expression "rubbing salt into someone's wound" does not necessarily remain a negative one

It is now 21 month post above treatment and my forehead is mostly free of spots until I get to my hairline, both top and side of temples where I was not able to apply ACV part of this routine. My thinking is that the treatment was effective, but just out of interest and 2 spots possibly still there, I'm planning to repeat it next week to see if my skin reacts differently. If there is still evidence of BCC I would not do this treatment again but would try Curaderm.

To summarise:

I applied VCO/BS (Virgin Coconut Oil/Baking Soda) combination 2x daily all over my forehead up to my hairline and for the first few days treatment was very painful. Immediately after first application skin looked terribly red and inflamed. Washed it off before retiring and applied 1/2 strength ACV dressing for 1-2 hours (stings considerably for a while) before sleep and repeated this first thing in the morning before applying again VCO/BS.

Continued this treatment for about 3 (maybe 4) weeks. Occasionally applied fresh aloe vera to support healing. Pain subsided at end of first week and slowly over time redness and inflammatory-look disappeared too. The one spot on bridge of my nose was not treated with ACV but has also disappeared. A friend (84) who was diagnosed with BCC treated it with colloidal silver, that she makes herself, and that was also successful.

Thanks to all of you who are sharing experiences and blessings of good health to all.

After a week, it got a bit irritated with some small amounts of blood expressed. At that point, I cut away the hair in the area and started applying a Band-Aid to keep it from my pillow when I slept. In the shower every day I washed my hair normally and then applied pHisohex anti-bacterial face wash as an antiseptic and then rinsed that as well.

After eight weeks the bleeding stopped and signs of the BCC were disappearing. I kept applying the mix for four more weeks just in case. Now the hair is growing back well although it's a little lighter and the only way I can tell where it was it is a slight dent in my scalp. I stopped six weeks ago. In a follow-up visit to my doctor I had to show him twice where the BCC used to be.

FYI, I consulted three more surgeons who all said it needed to be cut out and one even said I'd need a skin graft (where no hair would grow) to cover the wound. At that point the (free) surgery wouldn't actually be available for another three months as I am a public patient with a low time-priority issue. None of them would discuss my self-treatment for legal reasons.

In retrospect, I'd try the Black Salve as a quicker treatment and possibly more certain cure. Thank you EARTHCLINIC!

This year, for the first time, I found a patch of Petty Spurge growing wild in my garden. I researched it and found amazing uses for it. It is actually a beautiful "weed". I applied the sap very carefully to a spot on my nose and it worked!

INTERESTING INFO

The botanical name is Euphorbia peplus. Other common names include Cancer Weed, Wart Weed, Milk Weed and Radium Weed.

Petty spurge, and all other Euphorbias, are named for a Greek physician of King Juba II (50 BC), Euphorbus, who discovered the medicinal uses of the Euphorbias. It is the only genus of plants that has all three kinds of photosynthesis, CAM, C3 and C4. "Spurge" is derived from Middle English/Old French, "to purge" due to its use as a purgative. All Euphorbias have a caustic milky sap, "latex", which can cause burning to mucousal tissues.

It has long been used successfully as a traditional remedy to treat sunspots, corns, warts, non-melanoma skin cancers (BCC, SCC), actinic keratosis, waxy growths, skin blemishes, and other common skin lesions. it is also used as a tincture to treat other conditions. It was described by Nicolas Culpeper's Complete Herbalist (1826) as “A good treatment for warts”.
It has always been used for sunspots in Australia.
In 1997, Dr Aylward isolated one of the active ingredients, a diterpene ester called Ingenue mebutate, which he discovered was toxic to rapidly replicating human tissue.

Clinical trials of Picato, a gel derived from milkweed sap, suggests it is effective at stopping lesions turning into skin cancer. And, an Australian company called Peplin Biotech is conducting research and developing a gel from the sap of Euphorbia peplus as a simple topical treatment for certain skin cancers, such as basal cell carcinomas and squamous cell carcinomas. According to Peplin Biotech, the sap penetrates the skin and destroys the malignant tissue.

There are several ways to use Petty Spurge to treat BCC.

RAW SAP:

Pick a fresh stem and wait for the white sap to exude and apply 1 drop only to the lesion (avoid surrounding skin). Apply 1-2 times daily for 1-7 days, usually 2-4 days. Can cover with a bandaid and leave overnight. Note: some have noted they had to repeat the treatment to completely clear out the infection.

Each day use a fresh stem.

Some people mix it with aloe vera gel (50:50,70:30) in which case it might take longer (weeks to months) to resolve though with much less irritation. Apply a thin layer to the affected area only.

When using the raw sap, if there is abnormal growth, there is a strong reaction to the sap. The area will fester, redden, and scab which eventually falls off leaving fresh pink skin. At this point, aloe vera gel can be applied to aid healing.

There are a few points that need to be applied when using the raw sap:

1. When plucking the stems to extract sap, choose the small stems first. The first time you use it only use a tiny dot of the sap, to see how you react and how the lesion reacts.

2. IMPORTANT
Wear gloves and do not allow the sap to get onto your fingers, lips, eyes, nose, genitals or onto healthy skin. Care must be used not to allow the sap onto unaffected skin or anywhere near the eyes. THIS IS IMPORTANT. The eye can be affected more seriously by inflammation because it is easily scarred and cause loss and clarity of vision. It is toxic if ingested and will cause blistering wherever it is applied. If even a tiny dab gets in your eyes, it can cause excruciating pain, redness, swelling and even blindness. Take care not to inadvertently rub your eye when handling the sap. Sweating, rubbing or washing may inadvertently carry the sap into the mouth or eyes causing causing inflammation and scarring.

Congealed latex is insoluble in water though can be removed with an emulsifier such as soap and milk.

3. Apply the sap only to the most prominent and specific tissue only.

4. The lesion should be cleaned with soap and water and dried before applying the sap.

5. Do not over treat. Once or twice per day is more than enough. If the area starts to bleed discontinue. Most people apply it once daily, usually at bedtime.

6. It is recommended to see a doctor or alternative healthcare specialist before self-treating.

A typical sequence of healing is listed below. Obviously it will vary a lot, depending on what you are treating, the severity, your state of health and age, and other conditions.

Day 1: Redness surrounding the lesion, sometimes mild localised pain.
Days 2-3: Swelling, red area spreads. There may be some level of pain from the lesion.
Days 4-5: lesion may ooze or form a crater.
Day 6. Lesion starts to dry, no pain, there may be some itching.
Day 7. Scab starts to form.
Days 7-14. Scab heals and falls off.

Do not pick at the scab that forms. It will delay healing, may cause infection, and may cause a scar. It is tempting to pick but let it come off on its own.

Keratosis. When treating keratoses, on day 4 erythema (redness), flaking/scaling and crusting may peak.

VARIOUS DIY SALVES

Apply a thin coat to the affected area daily until resolved.

1. Petty Spurge sap, Wheat germ oil, Grapeseed oil, Mango Butter, Vitamin E.

2. Petty Spurge Sap, Sorbolene (emulsified coconut wax).

3. Petty Spurge 3%, aloe leaf juice, coconut oil, almond oil, emulsifying beeswax, Vitamin E (tocopheryl acetate), Vitamin A (retinyl palmitate), Vitamin D (ergocalciferol). All ingredients are organic.

COMMERCIAL GELS

There are several companies that make a cream from the sap, some are sold on Amazon (e.g., PhytoMedx Suphorbia Cream). The active ingredient in Euphorbia peplus sap is ingenol mebutate, which has been approved by the FDA in the United States of America for use as a gel on skin lesion. Treatment appears to involve applying the gel 0.05% once daily for two or three consecutive days to the surface of the BCC or SCC lesion.

Study:

Ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
5.2. Petty Spurge (Euphorbia peplus (L.))

The latex of the lactiferous petty spurge contains toxic diterpene esters such as ingenol mebutate. A randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled study evaluated the efficacy of 0.025% and 0.05% ingenol mebutate gel compared to placebo in 200 patients with actinic keratoses. The topical products were applied once daily for three days. Both ingenol mebutate concentrations were highly effective (75% and 100% clearing, versus 0% clearing with placebo). Ingenol mebutate induces a localized necrosis of the treated skin, followed by an inflammatory response, crusting and subsequent clearing of the treated area. Scar formation was not observed [53] (LOE-A). These results were confirmed in another randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled study [54] (LOE-A). Ingenol mebutate gel was approved in 2013 as a prescription drug (150 µg/g gel and 500 µg/g gel).

RESEARCH

Recent research into Petty Spurge has shown that a wide range of cancer cells is acutely sensitive to this substance.

In many studies, the Active Ingredient: Ingenol Mebutate -
is an activator of Protein Kinase C which is a key factor in the treatment of cancer.
In laboratory experiments against leukemia cells lines, Ingenol Mebutate (Ingenol-3-angelate) was found to be both selective in targeting leukemia cells and that the leukemia cells are highly sensitive to the small doses being applied.
in laboratory trials with skin cancer in mice, 3 daily topical applications resulted in significant clearance.
intermediate clinical trials (Phase IIa) against Sunspots (Actinic Keratosis) resulted in significant clearance.
Phase I/II clinical trials show that the sap from Petty Spurge resulted in significant clearance of human non-melanoma skin cancers.
Caution: Petty Spurge sap is toxic and should not be used internally.

An interesting study found uses for other cancer types:

Anticancer Drugs. 2007 Mar;18(3):357-62. doi: 10.1097/CAD.0b013e3280149ec5.
Proceedings of the First International Conference on PEP005

Steven M Ogbourne 1, Peter Hampson, Janet M Lord, Peter Parsons, Peter A De Witte, Andreas Suhrbier

PMID: 17264770 DOI: 10.1097/CAD.0b013e3280149ec5
Abstract

The sap of Euphorbia peplus, commonly know as 'petty spurge', 'radium weed' or 'milkweed' has been used for centuries as a traditional treatment for skin conditions, including warts, corns and cancers of the skin. Documentation of its use by medical professionals to treat basal cell carcinoma (BCC) dates from the early 19 century. Individuals who participated in a 1988 survey of home treatments for cancer indicated the sap of E. peplus was an effective cure for actinic lesions leading the investigators to suggest that this potential utility should be further explored in controlled clinical trials. The fractionation of the sap E. peplus using solvents of varying polarity yielded several macrocyclic diterpenes, many of which were found to have cytotoxic activity or the ability to influence cellular differentiation. Ultimately, ingenol 3-angelate (I3A) of PEP005, emerged as a promising potential new anti-cancer treatment. Here we report the proceedings from the First International Conference on PEP005, covering the exciting potential of PEP005 as the therapeutic agent for the treatment of skin cancer, leukemia and bladder cancer.

However, to kill it completely I think personally this is the way to go. We haven't tried hydrogen peroxide because he was dead against it. So, I have only used baking soda. Praying we come through this as it is kind of gross. He has two areas on his back that look like bullet or arrow wounds. I am not kidding. I feel for him and have see his bright personality go into the depths of humility really fast as the roots of this cancer is being extracted and destroyed. What a journey! Thanks for letting me sob!! :)

I never went to the doctor again for BCCs and I have treated dozens of them over the last 30 years or so using the Milk Thistle. You simply break the stem near the top where it is soft, wait a few seconds for the white sap to rise, and dab it on. Then leave it. After an hour or so it will turn a brown colour and after a few days will turn almost black. It sticks like tar and will not come off, even in the shower, providing you dont scrub it! After a week or so it will gradually wear off and the BCC will be much reduced if not gone altogether. Persistent cases may need a second application. It is painless, does not leave a scar or loss of pigment; it is simple to use and it's free! The whole world should know about the old fashioned "cow-cocky" remedy, but I guess that would put a lot of fancy skin cancer clinics out of business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypGv8E1PahU

The Merck's Manual of the Materia Medica was first published in 1899 published a small reference book for physicians and pharmacists. It was meant as an aid to physicians and pharmacists, reminding doctors that “Memory is treacherous.” Compact in size, easy to use, and comprehensive, The Merck Manual (as it was later known) became a favorite of those involved in medical care and others in need of a medical reference. Even Albert Schweitzer carried a copy to Africa in 1913, and Admiral Byrd carried a copy to the South Pole in 1929. If you look up turpentine in the 1899 manual of Merck, it will let you know that turpentine therapy is effective for cancerous growths (i.e. skin cancers). From Merck's Manual of the Materia Medica 1899 page 79.
Turpentine, Chian, Merck.

Thick, tenacious, greenish-yellow liq.; peculiar, penetrating odor.—Antiseptic.—Uses: Extern., cancerous growths.

Turpentine, Canada—U.S.P.

Balsam of Fir.—Used chiefly extern.—Dose: 5—30 grn., in pill.

Merck's Manual of the Materia Medica 1899 Download Book Source: https://archive.org/details/mercksmanualofma00newy/page/92/mode/2up

Read on-line: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/41697/41697-h/41697-h.htm

It's the turpentine that comes from Pine trees that targets cancer. A paper published in the journal Prostate in 2008 found that oigomeric proanthocyanidin complexes (OPCs) taken from maritime pine bark, targeted a prostate can cell line known as LNCaP. The LNCaP cells ceased to spread but also ended up dying. OPCs in pine tree oil was found to slow the spread of cancer cells, induce cancer cell death, inhibit processes that lead to cancer, exhibit natural antioxidant, antimutagenic and antiproliferative properties. It was later found that pine needles of the Pinus densiflora variety inhibit many of the processes by which cancer forms the body and directly blocks the growth of a multiple cancer cell lines including MCF-7, SNU-638 and HL-60.

The authors declared that pine exhibits a strong antioxidant, antimutagenic and antiproliferative effect on cancer cells. In a study involving mice tumorigenesis was suppressed by pine needle supplementation in model systems

Another oil of terebinthine pine, known as terebinthe, is another anti-cancer effect that stimulates both the prostate gland and the uterus. It helps to mitigate adrenal fatigue and balance hormone production. It is turpentine pine resin that is among the most regarded anti-cancer remedies in ancient folklore, showing benefits in cancers of the liver, breast, spleen, rectum, tongue and even more. – Dr Fredda Branyon. Source: https://www.freddabranyon.com/blog/cancer-fighting-pine-tree-oil/

Now, this past month I got the chance to test this on two people with skin cancers.

CASE STUDY Mrs. M.

Mrs. M had a Basal cell carcinoma (BCC) on her nose about 7 years ago and went thru a horrible surgery to remove it. She swore she would rather die then go thru that again. Well, last month a strange lesion popped-up on her chest. It looked exactly like how the BCC on her nose first started out. I suggested she try Gum Spirits of Turpentine for the cancer. I told her it would take about 2 weeks of applying it daily to see any results. She agreed and I gave her a bottle with a eye dropped to make it easier to apply. She put one drop on the BCC 2x/daily. She said it turned a ash color, turned dry and crackled, then fell off exposing health tissue underneath. She was over joyed with the results.

CASE STUDY Mrs. J.

Mrs. J has had Squamous and Basal carcinoma cells around her eyebrows on and off for 10 years now. Both cutting and freezing them off. Recently some have developed again and she was tired of getting cut on. She wanted to try turpentine. She applied a drop to each lesion 2x/daily and by the third week they had fell off exposing healthy tissue underneath.

COST ANALYSIS.

Estimated costs:

Excisional surgery: $100-$2,000, Mohs micrographic surgery: $1,000-$5,000, Cryosurgery: $200-$500, and Radiation therapy: $3,000-$10,000.

It's important to note that these are just estimates, and actual costs may be higher or lower depending on the specific circumstances. It's recommended to consult with a healthcare professional for an accurate cost estimate.

Note: I treated both women for less then $1.00 USD if you add the bottle with the eye dropper in…

DISCUSSION.

In both cases I used Sunnyside Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine bought at Rural King back in the paint department.

Brands of Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine available in the USA are:

HUMCO Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine

Diamond G Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine located in Georgia

Sunnyside Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine

Pure gum spirits are a NATURAL, solvent-grade liquid derived from the fresh resin of living pine trees, used primarily as a solvent to thin oil-based paints and varnishes and to clean brushes and equipment. It is distinguished from industrial turpentine, which is a lower-quality by-product of the paper industry containing impurities. Pure gum spirits are known for their high purity, effectiveness, and a fresh pine scent, making it a preferred choice for artists and for certain industrial applications.

In traditional and folk medicine, pure gum spirits of turpentine (or turpentine oil) have been used for a variety of purposes, such as an antiseptic, external anti-sesptic, a chest rub for congestion, pain relief and an internal remedy for parasites.

So, to me, the ACV is what I think is the strongest factor, and the ACV, Hydrogen peroxide, baking soda mixture is the most powerful paste imho. I also use a Hydrogen peroxide & baking soda-only mixture if I want to apply a less aggressive mix to anything that looks vaguely suspicious. And I drink an occasional teaspoon of ACV in water, since I've read that can help too.

(My disclaimer: this worked for me, ymmv, and definitely check with your doctor. If it had been anywhere else on my body I might have accepted the suggested Mohs surgery and been done with it instantly...but I still keep the above paste/mixtures handy.)

Just saying. I don't think that what they call BCC is cancer. I think it's a fungal infection.

Within a few days they went from red to pink and were no longer smooth but matched the texture of the rest of my skin. Now three to four weeks later they are faded pink, almost completely gone.

I made the solution by cutting an eggplant into 1" pieces, stuffing them into a jar, and adding apple cider vinegar to cover, then let it sit for a while (at least a week, probably longer), shaking the jar whenever it occurred to me.

I found a video online years ago giving a recipe for a solution to treat skin issues. I've had luck with brown, crusted spots (I'm 80, burned the hell outta my skin in my suntanning youth)--and basal cell carcinomas: takes many applications, overnight good, may take 2-3 weeks, keep it up. Soak several pieces of a ripe eggplant in SCV (organic, with the mother e.g. Bragg's) for 5-7 days in the fridge (or dry, cool spot). SHAKE once a day. Strain, keep the liquid in a glass jar in the fridge. Will keep for a couple of months. You can pour onto a cotton ball, or use a dropper into a bandaid, secure with tape, expandable bandage or? You can also apply aloe, castor oil, tea tree in between: trust your instincts as to what your body is wanting. Keep out of the sun! I've had two areas: one is completely healed gone for years, the other returns, goes away --25 years now. Blessings! I hear that frankincense added to the solution is great as well.

The doctor went over options and recommended Aldara. I got it then read the side effects and realized it might mess up my immune system, which is already messed up from longterm Lyme. I decided to go back to the derm and ask about the other options.

Meantime, I got on Earthclinic and learned about using baking soda, coconut oil, and vitamin C, among other things.
I started using those 3 for a few days but after researching studies, switched to only C (ascorbic acid) powder. (Some people say L ascorbic is better. After researching it, I think it doesn't matter, though I am not sure.)

While waiting for the Dr.appointment, did the C for two weeks (including the few days of using the other things as well).

Every day, I am putting the C on as a paste (mixing it with water) and cover it with a Band-Aid to keep light from oxidizing it. keeping it on usually 12 hours but at least 4, as per a study I read.
(I think it is also OK to leave it uncovered and put it on 3x a day.)

Outdoors during the day, I cover it with a Band-Aid whether or not the C is on it.

The C made it sting and turn red; it would fade sometimes, then turn red again with more applications of the paste.

After about a week, it seemed to melt away; a small bit peeled off. Now the area is light pink and smoother, just a little texture, and It no longer turns red from the C, sometimes a little pinker.
When went back to the dermatologist, he asked if I used the Aldara. I said no, just C. He said my skin looks fine, keep using the C, and come back in three months. He said if it is malignant, it will double in thickness during that time. He said if it does not thicken then I am fine, no more to do.
I don't think he was implying it wasn't a cancer to begin with (I am quite sure it is, as I see the "fingers.")

One thing I learned from this is that I had to buy a new bottle of C. I have a really old bottle of it, probably oxidized. As soon as I bought the new bottle, a few days into this process, it had a much stronger effect.

Having studied more, I am concerned that ascorbic acid oxidizes quickly and I may need to replace the bottle every couple weeks, but so far, it seems to still be giving me a sting, and the lesion continues to look better. I'm going to try to find more info on this.
Will update this post after I go back to the dermatologist, or sooner if anything else of note happens.

From the studies it seems that usually the tumors fully go away but in some cases there is some residual cancer even after three months. But with the more "medical" treatments don't always get it all either. This is the main study I was going by. There are a few others online, wish there were more.

https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(16)30032-9/fulltext