Top Natural Back Pain Remedies for Holistic Relief

Rocking Side-To-Side

Posted by Kelly (Cincinnati, Ohio) on 01/15/2010
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A simple excercise to possibly help relieve back pain is upon awakening, either in your bed, or at your kitchen table, rock side-to-side until you feel relief. The length of time will depend on your condition. Oviously, of you have bp or balance issues, pay attention to how you are feeling. I've rocked like this for up to 10 min. with good results. I've done it later in the day as well. I really just did it instinctively as I had a job that was giving me back strain. Just laugh out loud and call it yoga if a family member tells you you look crazy. It worked for me!. I'm guessing it loosens the back muscles and gets blood where you need it. It probably will also help people who are too sedentary because it is no impact. God Bless!

Eliminate Dairy

Posted by Boblack (Germantown, MD) on 07/20/2009
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I have experienced bad back pain ever since junior year of high school where during a heavy lifting session I injured my back. After spending a lot of money on drugs and physical therapists, I can truly say nothing works better than just eliminating diary from my diet, sleeping on the floor, and doing several ab exercises. I have been doing these three things for the last two months and have noticed a significant reduction in my lower back pain. For those of you who complain they can enjoy the favorite breakfast foods without milk I suggest trying rice or soy milk or If you don't care like me just use water.

Ball Point Pen Technique

Posted by Anonymous (Wroclaw, Dolnoslaskie, Poland) on 02/04/2012

I don't believe that it's because of muscles, they don't suddenly become strong. As Teresa said, it's because of unlocking lymphatics, or because of fixing misplaced disks.

Ball Point Pen Technique

Posted by Nikki (Toowoomba ) on 10/18/2024
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The exercise does sound like good mornings which my physiotherapist has given me to do. This you tube video shows two vibrations with a well informed explanation at the end on who to do the exercise with a foam roller which is what the physiotherapist recommended to start of with 10 reps x3 times a day building to 20 to 30 time x 3 times a day until I could get the foam roller down past my knees with a straight back, then we are going to look at doing the exercise with weights. Hope this helps someone else

https://youtu.be/SqJJygksQYY?si=y7_NAXcPxDTtaXFB

Stretching

Posted by Donald (Houston, Texas) on 12/15/2008
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I have found that the best way to relieve lower back pain is to do early morning stretching. After one week of this simple exercise, lower back pain is gone:

1. Start by lying flat on your back on the floor or a hard flat surface.

2. Lift your right knee up and forward touching your chin or moving the knee as close as possible to the chin.

3. Hold you right knee up to your chin with both hands and stay in that position for at least 15 seconds.

4. Do the same thing with the left knee back and forth for about 20 minutes.

5. Relax the body and the lower back pain will be gone in a few days.

Blessings to you!

DMSO

Posted by Jodi (North Fork, California USA) on 12/07/2008
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My husband has been having upper back and shoulder pain so bad that he can't sleep at night. He's tried all kinds of pain killers without any effect. Last night I put some DMSO on his back and his skin blistered up and his pain doubled. Can anyone tell me what we did wrong? I used a roll-on applicator that the DMSO came in and didn't put much on at all. I did, however, buy it at a feed store. Did I buy the wrong type?

Magnesium

Posted by Joyce (Joelton, TN) on 04/01/2008 490 posts

Response to Helen of Beirut, Lebanon 3/30/08:

Hi Helen, I'm not Ted but I can answer your question about the magnesium your daughter is taking. If she is getting too much magnesium it quickly lets you know because you get diarrhea from it and nobody needs a doctor to tell them when they have diarrhea, do they?

The lovely part of this is that magnensium has lots of function in the body and it is also one of the minerals our modern day junk/fast food diets leave us short on. To learn what this magnesium deficiency causes, I urge everyone to research EXCITOTOXINS on line and pay particular attention to anything from Russell Blaylock. James South also has a very informative and easy to follow on them.

The two major excitotoxins that our foods are laden with are monosodium glutamate and aspartame.

MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE AND ASPARTAME
ARE NOT JUST FOUND IN ASIAN STIR-FRIED FOODS.
They are found in all processed foods in all cultures.

We can protect ourselves from a lot of this by learning what names they hide them under (ingredients list) and leaving those on the grocery shelf. It is not possible to omit MSG found in our vaccines to protect us from things such as measles, mumps, polio, etc.

To protect ourselves and our families, we must also know some things that can block absorption of MSG and aspartame. Mike Adams interview (available on line) with Dr. Russell Blaylock is very informative and should be fairly easy to follow for most people. In this he mentions that a lot of monosodium glutamate damage to our brains are found to also be accompanied by a magnesium deficiency!
James South quotes a Dr. Mildred Seelig, a noted magnesium expert, calculated that a minimum of 8 mgms. of magnesium per kilogram of body weight are needed daily to prevent cellular magnesium deficiency (560 mgm day needed for l54 pound adult). Our Western world diets usually supplies only l75-275 mgm/day, about 1/2 of the amount needed.

Dr. Blaylock, in his interview with Mike Adams, also mentions other MSG blockers such as amino acids (leucine, isoleucine and lysine), silimarin, curcumin and ginkgo biloba, and most of the flavonoids.

Dr. Blaylock only talks about what excitotoxins do to the brain & central nervous system! Reading up on Metabolic Syndrome X (which orthox medicine now calls insulin resistance will tell you what these same excitotoxins do the rest of the body. Have fun reading.

So Helen, keep giving that daughter the magnesium to protect her from the above and don't worry about too much unless she develops diarrhea - if she does just reduce the amount.

Stretching

Posted by G. Michael (Reading, PA) on 12/05/2007
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The Lord is having me write a book on natural cures. I suffered with lower back pain for over 30 years. This was unnecessary suffering and occurred because I didn't know what I am about to tell you. Have you ever seen children with lower back pain? I haven't. Therefore, lower back pain is life-style induced, meaning the muscles that we used constantly in our youth simply atrophy and then one day our back goes out. We take pills or go to a chiropractor for relief. Chiropractors do a great job but if you spend about 5 minutes a day doing stretching exercises your back pain will vanish forever, unless you have a catastrophic injury. On the floor with a mat or on your bed you can do these exercises. Pull your knee to your chest, hold for ten seconds, then release. Repeat with the other knee. Next grab your leg above the knee and point your toes toward the ceiling, stretching your hamstring. Follow with the other hamstring. Doing your hamstrings is probably the most iomportant exercise in protecting your back. Next, pull both your knees together to your chest. Next, get on your hands and knees and do the catback, pulling your chin into your chest and arching your back like a cat. Next, lie on your stomach and act like your a sky-diver raising your arms and legs simultaneously. Next, get a chair and put both of your feet on the outside of the legs. Take both hands together and touch the floor with your fingertips next to your heel. Repeat with the other heel. Finally do some crunches-start off with 10 and increase to how many that you feel like doing Remember for all the exercises, except for the crunches, that you should hold each stretch for 10 seconds. All this takes about 5 minutes to do and if you do them faithfully you will find that your back pain will vanish. Praise The Lord! Once your back feels normal continue to do the exercises at least every other day for the rest of your life, or the same weaknesses will reappear and you will be back where you started.

Stretching

Posted by Wellspruce (Juneau, Ak, Usa) on 02/19/2013
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Thanks for your post. I should have mentioned in my earlier post today on hyaluronic acid (HA) that yes stretching I believe has helped me far more than chiropactors and certainly far more than the medical establishment, still paying the multi thousands I was charged by hospital and several "specialists" for xrays 18 months ago. It's ungodly the abuse we suffer at the hands... well, I'll get back to the subject.

Anyway, I designed several back exercises, for lower disc, the L discs bulge, that don't require my laying on floor or even bed. I stand at the V of my kitchen counter, settling my weight on hands and arms, and while completely relaxing my back and leg, dangle the leg back and forth for a minute or so, both legs. Then I bend knee and dangle another minute or so both legs. When I do this, feeling and warmth RUSH all the way down legs and to sole of foot. I do this every time I enter the kitchen, several times a day so that at the end of the day I've put in five to ten minutes total. Doing just before bedtime also helps you sleep better.

I'd be interested in trying your exercises also. Thanks for posting.

Apple Cider Vinegar

Posted by She (Virginia, United States) on 01/18/2014

Maybe it is having a detoxing effect on your body? I'm not a Dr. but do know that when you start to rid your body of toxins it goes thru a withdrawal period. Try eliminating dairy and wheat and see if that helps.

Coconut Oil

Posted by Khristina (The Bronx, New York) on 05/16/2007
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I had back pain that was constant. I ate some coconut macroon cookies and my back pain was gone. At first I didn't know that coconut was good for anything, but I found it quite curious that my back pain was suddenly gone after having ate those cookies. I reseached and found that coconut is used in cures. So now I use coconut oil in everything. Especially if back pain comes up in conversation, I say 'take coconut oil or get the cookies'!

Borax

Posted by lorettta (chandler az) on 11/13/2022

Scott, how much borax are you taking?

Horsetail Extract

Posted by Marilyn (Long Beach, CA) on 03/04/2020
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I have osteopenia, some scoliosis, whiplash injury to neck and back. Latest thing I've tried is horsetail extract. Read a big 13 page article in Well Being Journal a couple of years ago that I found online about a French researcher and his beliefs about horsetail extract being better for your bones than calcium. I took 6 extract caps a day for 3 or 4 weeks and felt a difference in strength of my back. They say to take the extract off and on -- a couple/few weeks on then off. I now take one or 2 caps a day along with my other minerals and supplements.

Well Being Journal article entitled Strong Bones or Osteoporosis by Earl Staelin re horsetail extract research better for bone building than calcium.

Cupping Therapy

Posted by Alex (Thessaloniki, Greece) on 05/21/2018
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I've just tried cupping. After severe back pain and not being able to walk for two days I have no longer severe pain in the nerve but even after many days my muscles in the lower back and my glutes ate very tight and with spasms sometimes if I get up fast.

Buying the cupping kit on ebay is cheap. I bought the one that the pump hasn't got a long plastic tube. I put some coconut oil on my lower back for better suction. I also put some coconut oil on the joints betweenthe pump the and the cups in order to enter and eject the cups easily. I definetly felt my muscles and the area being pulled off and some relaxation and a pleasant feeling afterwards but I need more testing and repeating the methods more days. I cupped for 10 minutes. If suctions leaves some marks on the skin they will dissapear in 2-3 days.

Turmeric

Posted by Alex (Thessaloniki, Greece) on 05/14/2018
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The right dosage of turmeric and my results from biomagnets and stones bracelet:

I took turmeric for two days with no results but the mistake was mine. I only took a tip of a teaspoon without diluting it twice a day. The time I got a whole teaspoon diluted in less than half a glass of water it worked. I had also eaten something oily before in order for the turmeric to desolve better. The back pain became noticeably less in less than an hour and my mobility increased.

Wearing a biomagnets bracelet did absolutely nothing for my back pain. Some suggest a copper bracelet instead (made the skin absorbs Cu atoms) and some others suggest strong magnet exactly in the area of trouble. (I know how to find the "biological negative" of a magnet.

Magnets

Posted by Alex (Thessaloniki, Greece) on 05/14/2018
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I should have put five stars but I didn't have much time to experiment about the truth of magnet therapy. My bracelet with small magnets failed completely to to any good to my acute back pain but after reading this

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/magnet-therapy2.html

I decided to put a very strong magnet about 1cm in diameter exactly where the root of my problem was in my back. I was careful with the polarity. Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) explains it very well in page one of my above link. I had already a biomagnetic bracelet so the pole that repelled the magnets on the bracelet was the bio-North. In the first ten minute of application I felt some instances of big pain as an electric shock exactly at the problematic area but after a while there was a permanent and noticeable reduce in pain and tension in the muscle. I decided to wear it for hours. I had stabilized the strong neodymium magnet on my back with tape for injuries. The funny thing is that I felt some leftover pain at the other side of my lower back (the left one), the area which was far away from the magnet but also affected with pain and muscle spasm. I will definetly buy some strong neodymium magnets (>=1000 gauss) and self-experiment again.

Flowers of Sulfur

Posted by Rebel (Somewhere, Usa) on 03/07/2018
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I have research google high and low as well as you tube for guidance on using Flowers of sulfur internally. My aunt, who has passed, used to make capsule of this yellow sulfur and take for back pain and kidney issues. She never had any problems with taking it internally and it helped her a lot.

I have read it is toxic in too high of dose, But I do know that it can be taken internally, because when my mother was a child they use to have cream of tarter sulfur wafers that people would take for mosquitoes and ticks. They do not make those anymore.

One guy, Ray Peat, said 200 mg per day for 3 days to wipe out Candida.

Maybe some of the older people here may know and can advise me.

Magnetic Field Therapy

Posted by Janet (In Indiana) on 05/30/2017

ORH I am looking at the possibility of buying the PEMF system. I have not read Body Electric yet. You mention a book you are reading. If you mentioned the title I may have overlooked it. From $70 to $9000. I am having trouble even understanding the essential difference.
Our daughters ankle injury is my focus. Her Dr. refers to is as a highly unusual break. He feels that she has healed as much as she can. I know we can break some boundries he is not even contemplating. Since the night of her accident the most he has had to offer is predicting arthritis. Then announcing he had predicted the arthritis and confirming he is correct that she has arthritis.

We have brought her beyond his expectations yet I feel we can go further. Fighting the mycoplasma infection that Ted considers the cause of the cartilage breakdown in arthritis. I cannot think of anyway to afford a $9000 device, not saying it would be possibly worth it.

I am hoping you can provide some more information from your experience.

I honestly do not even know how to formulate the correct question. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have. Janet

Leg Lifts

Posted by Peryn (Kennesaw, Ga) on 06/05/2016

Could you provide links for the exercise videos you mentioned?

Leg Lifts

Posted by Faith (West Melbourne, Fl) on 05/12/2024

Thank you for taking the time to share all that you have accomplished. I will try them. Sorry you have had such a rough time, I too had a car accident that changed my life/health. Best of luck to you, keep getting stronger 🤞🏻

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Jonathan (New York, NY) on 09/08/2014

A good massage therapist should be able to help you in one session. If you can't afford it, ask a friend to help! Massaging feet, legs and hip area along with lower back might be helpful too.

DMSO

Posted by Cfb933e2 (North America) on 09/01/2014
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I have a question. I did some labour one day a week ago and think I may have over done it. I felt a pain in my lower back on the right side at the time and I thought to myself that I had done some kind of over exertion and hurt myself.

The pain in the lower back region began getting worse and worse and I could barely move to get out of bed after I lay down. I had to urinate into a bottle because of pain when I tried to move my hips off the bed.

I broke out into a sweat when I finally was able to stoop and thought I was going to pass out so I lay back down again.

Early this morning I had to get up out of bed because the urine bottle was full and I had terrible cramps in my legs so I thought to get some magnesium into my body.

I got to the chair where the DMSO gel container was on the desk and thought to try applying it to the lower back region. It was almost immeadiate that the pain was manageable for me to walk up stairs.

This pain does not feel like back pain of which I am familiar.

I can move my legs and arms just fine.

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Tony (Liverpool) on 02/15/2014

I have been suffering with back pain for well over 20 yrs, I am second youngest of 7 children, I have always been active, and am of average weight 13stone 6ft tall, my problem is I feel constant discomfort in my lower back , and often go into spasm which can be agonising. my spine twists out of shape and I find it very difficult to stand or sit, and am constantly going from one to the other for a few minutes at a time . but as I stated at the beginning, I am 1 of 7 children , my mother sadly deceased was also very active up until the age of 88, and suffered exactly the same symptoms as myself, my brother who was an excellent amateur footballer and fitness fanatic, is exactly the same as me, I have 3 sisters one sadly deceased, exactly the same as me, I have been seeing doctors and telling them my symptoms and those of my family, but it seems to fall on deaf ears and I get the impression these doctors assume its lack of exercise, I've tried physio and but it has no lasting effect on my condition, and a few hours after a session the pain is still the same , I've also been in casualty when the pain has been at its worst and received morphine injections, can anyone tell me if this could be a genetic condition, and offer any advice.

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 02/16/2014

Tony, you might want to start with Epsom Salt baths and reading up on magnesium.

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Santosh (Hyderabad. ..india) on 03/06/2014

Tony.. Try yoga under a good teacher.. I assure u a complete CURE permanently... Good luck

DMSO

Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee, Usa) on 02/13/2014

Dear Robert Henry,

I am so sorry you are feeling poorly! I will be praying for your recovery.

Hope you feel lots better soon. I trust you will keep us posted!

~Mama to Many~

DMSO

Posted by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 02/13/2014

Hi Robert Henry,

So sorry to hear you are not feeling up to snuff right now, but you will figure this out and be back to your old ornery self soon.

I pinched a nerve in my neck about a month ago for the first time, and was pretty miserable myself. Nothing helped - ice packs, heat, DMSO, Frankincense, CS, etc. Finally, my husband made a plank type ramp out of wood, about 3 feet tall that I used to lay upside down on and stretch my neck and back out for about 5 minutes at a time, especially right before bed. I held on by a strap on my feet at the top. It helped more than anything! Still hurts but I can see the light! What caused this? I bent over and picked my cat up, something I have been doing my whole life. Not great to get older but we're not done yet! Hang in there and let us know what you figure out. I guarantee it will be an original and be something from which we can all learn something. Best wishes.

DMSO

Posted by Mike62 (Denver) on 02/20/2014

Robert Henry: Being a laid back easy going fella like myself, I figure you might not be getting enough nourishing roots because they are hard to chop so you can try this remarkable recipe. Items need to be organic. Put variety of whole roots in water. Add fresh squeezed lemon juice and ACV. Soak for 1 day. Drain water and drink in small doses several times/day. Repeat procedure. Acids extract delicious goodies from remarkable roots into water. When colorful phyto chemicals are not being extracted anymore chop up, they'll be easy because acids soften tough cellulose, put into blender, grind up and eat. From all us mild mannered ordinary folk living here in rocky mountain high hope this makes you feel better.

Coconut Oil

Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 02/02/2014

Just be aware that coconut milk has toxins in it but not a big deal if used occasionally. Best way to drink coconut milk if you take a kit is buy the coconut cream concentrate and add water to make your own. It will have a grainier taste than store bought but more healthy.

Coconut Oil

Posted by Elizabeth (Omaha, NE) on 04/04/2016

How much and how often should I rub organic virgin coconut oil on 89 year old mom?

Stretching

Posted by Mimi (Miami, Florida) on 11/16/2014
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Thanks for this simple exercise. I just did it (I have minor back aches this morning), and I felt both hips pop, just like when I'm at the chiropractor. I stretched back and forth on my back, from side to side, stretching one leg and then the other with my arms over my head. It seems to help!

Multiple Remedies

Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 05/29/2013
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A few things have helped with my ruptured disc L-5 and bulging of 4 3 2 discs:

- Water soaks in Epsom salt and drinking 16 oz. water and eating an apple with salt on it in the tub. Stay in tub as long as you can.
- Take mineral and vitamin supplements, drink glass of water half an hour before any eating.
- Use an inversion table to open the spine up. Don't go all the way back, just till you feel the pull on the spine
- Ice packs on the spine 10 minutes then heat 30 minutes... Repeat a few times.

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Bess (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) on 04/02/2013

Hi Maggie from Calgary - It's unfortunate that your husband won't see a doctor or chiropractor to get a diagnosis. However, there was a recent article by Dr. Mercola (http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/03/29/back-pain-treatment.aspx) that might give you some ideas. The comments at the end (just click on it - it takes awhile to load) are usually very good. People offer suggestions on what worked for their particular back problem.

For temporary relief, you may want to look into an infrared heating pad. I can't list any brand names (although a popular one - used with horses as well as humans - begins with T and ends with X) but you can call Shoppers Drug Mart Home Health and they should be able to discuss various types with you.

Good luck! Cheers, Bess

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 04/04/2013

Mustard has calcium, potassium, magnesium, selenium and phosphorus, iron, copper, zinc, manganese, high in fat, o cholesterol, high in fiber, from the cabbage family, and contain omegas and some vitamin B's, A, C, E, K, and folates, lutein. Some people carry mustard packets around with them for pain

Chronic Back Pain Remedies

Posted by Ky Mama (Clinton, Ky) on 04/06/2013

Hi! I am so sorry about his pain. I have had trouble with sciatica on and off over the years. One thing that is easy to do and works well is Peppermint Essential Oil. I get organic since peppermint may be heavily sprayed. I was in a car for 13 hours today and my sciatica flared up. I rubbed peppermint oil onto my hand and over my lower back. (I think the inflammation there presses on the nerves causing the pain down my legs. ) It wasn't long before I was feeling better.

Plenty of water (not city water) is good for everything, including inflammation. Blackstrap molasses is also high in lots of things that may also be helpful. One Tablespoon a day, or when symptoms are bad is helpful. It can be taken straight or in warm milk.

Hope he gets some relief!

Tailbone Pain Remedies

Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 03/14/2013 2042 posts

A strong Magnet will surely help. Use the side that clings to metal. I have one on a chair and sit on it for my lower colon/rectum. Works wonders for me.

Tailbone Pain Remedies

Posted by Laura (Ortonville, Mi) on 03/20/2014
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I broke my tailbone in high school (landed on it and snapped it playing volleyball) and it started to hurt again 20 years later. I rubbed natural muscle and joint cream into it just to take the edge off so that I could sit down. I finally had to go see a chiroprator. It took about a month of going twice a week, but it did fix the pain. When I couldn't afford to go anymore I figured out that if I sit in a chair and kind of roll my pelvis forward without moving my upper back, my tailbone cracks and releases pressure... It feels much better. I would go to a chiro, though, it helped loosen up my back.

Ted's Remedies

Posted by Wellspruce (Juneau, Ak, USA) on 01/30/2013

Received a large bag of bulk hyaluronic acid (HA) two days ago, cost is around $100 but will last a yr or two I suspect because 222 mg is only a qtr tsp (this may seem expensive, but is a pittance to what I've paid doctors the past three years). Ted's recipe is 500 mg (slightly heaping 1/2 tsp) of HA plus 9 grams (about 2 tsp) sea salt in 500 cc (2 cups) of filtered or distilled water. Take 8 caps in a glass of water 3 times a day on empty stomach. Store in refrigerator. He said this is his recipe for a 150 lb person; adjust dosages according to weight of person.

Ted reports usual relief is experienced after about three weeks even rendering patients painfree that suffered with catastrophic spinal degeneration. Makes me so hopeful. See his posts on this page.

Anyway I began yesterday taking three times a day on empty stomach using Ted's recipe above. Here's hoping and praying this works as for three years I've lived with extreme lower back pain, the tail bone vertebrae and nerve damage, resulting in pain and numbness in back, right hip and thigh. After years of doctor, chiropractor, and hospital visits and stays~~I'm still paying off the hospital, I'm still in pain. Nothing the "specialist" doctors did helped me nor EVEN gave me relief unless you count the knockout pain pills.

I became desperate and researched joint pain and healing myself. I've been taking Glucosamine HCI 1500mg with MSM 1500mg for some months. That and exercises I developed myself give me some relief by day but nighttime waking dozens of times a night with pain has driven me to exhaustion. Based on Ted's timeline for results, I'll report back every couple weeks and let you know the results I personally have from the hyaluronic acid.

It's because of Ted's seeming successes with many maladies reported here on earthclinic and his obvious expertise as a holistic healer, I decided to try his remedy for joint pain.

Here's an interesting sidenote: I researched and discovered HA is derived from rooster comb or "made in labs" and not sure if what is made in labs is synthetic. If anyone knows which www.bulk.com carries I'd surely be interested to know and would appreciate the post to this page.

Good luck and God's blessings on all of you who are reading this and are in pain. May the Lord speed you to healing.

Ted's Remedies

Posted by Wellspruce (Juneau, Ak, Usa) on 02/19/2013
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Ok, I've often been disheartened because posters on earthclinic don't followup as they promise. So, I'm taking time to do so about the use of hyaluronic acid for what I suspect is a bulging, hopefully not ruptured, lower back disc. I believe from chiropractors' rpts, it's in the L discs. Anyway, see my above use of HA over the past month of so. My face swelled so horribly from Ted's recipe and even when I cut out the salt and cut the HA down, I retained water so terribly my eyes looked sunken in a very puffy face. Anyway, I cut it, the HA, down again 10 days ago to 30 mg each morning and bedtime. I continue my glucosamine/chondroitin MSM 1500 daily.

While I am mostly painfree sitting, walking, standing, my nights are well, a nightmare as I can no longer sleep back or sides because of the severe pain in back and hips and right leg goes numb. I'm now sleeping, as I have never before mostly on my stomach which is challenging.

I've been eating a strict healthy diet the past six months devoid of wheat products and haven't experienced joint pain. I broke from the diet a week ago one night and pigged out on wheat bread just that one night. I woke during the night and every joint in my body was on fire. I realized for the first time that what many have written about wheat causing inflammation is probably true. An interesting sidenote, do some research and you will find wheat seed was modified going back to the 1950's. The abuse science in the name of the buck has perpetrated on mankind is unforgivable.

I also began using coconut oil, CO for the uninitiated, a couple weeks ago, doing the pulling at night before bed, using also as a face and body and hair oil, and cooking with it. Yes, I smell vaguely like a coconut.

I also drink a quart of raw lemon water daily, about a half lemon and continue my healthy eating and the swelling from the HA has subsided (see dosages above I've tried).

If my broken sleep patterns continue, I'll try upping the HA gradually. I'll report back how I am in a month or two.

Thanks to earthclinic posters and the site administrators for an incredible help for those looking to alternate health remedies.