I am 66 year old female and have had chronic lower back and shoulder blade pain issues and started to get much worse. So I started doing some research and started on MSM powder both internally and externally. After using I am now in only my 2nd week and have to say my pain has improved probably 75% . I was using an arthritic cream which helped but since starting the msm I haven't had to use it. (Good as it was expensive for the amount of cream in the tube) From the first dose and application I noticed a "little" improvement. Thought to myself "must just be in the mind" :) but every day noticed more and more improvement. I started on a low dose as advised and am adding more each week. I also made up a cream which I massage in two to three times a day to the areas.
Started with 1/4 tsp mixed in water am and dinner time for a week and now using 1/2 tsp 2 x day. Monday I will be upping it to 3/4 tsp 2 x day.
Made up a cream to apply topically. Add 3 tsp msm powder to each 100ml of cream. Massage into areas. I apply it 2-3 times day.
I just found this forum looking for treatments for other ailment for my husband and I had to share this with you. It is working for me and hopefully it will work for someone else.
I had severe back pain to the point I couldn't move around in bed without pain in my lower back which was throughout my leg as well. I looked it up online and found it was sciatic nerve pain. I had numbness, weakness and serious sharp pain. I started taking around 6g of MSM and vitamin b complex. Praise be to God my pain has gone.
In reply to Francisca from Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France:
I take 2-3gms of MSM powder daily in drinks and have found it works for my creaky knees and stiff finger joints better than anything else.
You might try belly dance classes for your back ache, I had severe lumbar pain with sciatica for several years after a strain injury to my back. I took a class in belly dance and was impressed by how you are taught to separate and work muscle groups on your torso, which makes them stronger, which gives more support to the spine and seems to pull it into alignment. It takes a few months to get really fit but you see improvement after a couple of weeks.
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
I have a long history with back problems and multiple traumas to my body. I have been through two cervical fusions (3 levels fused) and an arm surgery (where they removed bone, and gave me hardware of plates and screws in my arm). I have recovered from all my surgeries but had been dealing with the residual side effects of chronic pain and many years of being on pharmaceuticals. Today, I am clean, as far as pharmaceuticals goes, none of that crap in my blood stream. It has been a four year journey since my first neck surgery. I was on ten different medications. I started by juicing and eating clean, I slowly worked my way off ten different medications. Then in the 6 months I stopped an anti-depressant (amitriptyline, not sure I spelled it right) which I was on for 20 years for chronic pain. I felt horrible after coming of that med, had worked through most the issues, but man was I in pain every day. Everyday was a battle to feel better, which usually took me most the day.
Anyway, my journey with MSM started like a lot of people... I took it and didn't notice much. I often would forget my second dose. Then one day I just started remember to take it, not only that, I even started taking it three times a day, 6 grams total divide into three doses. Those doses were followed with 5,000 mg of Vitamin C. I kid you not, two days after starting this routine, I woke up with ZERO pain. I was dumbfounded to say the least and honestly it has been an adjustment in my brain to not have chronic pain everyday. It has been amazing and I will tell anyone about it.
If you are not having results using MSM for back pain, look at your dosage, larger is not always better. Also I didn't notice the results from MSM until I started chasing it down with Vitamin C. After reading up more on MSM it seems that it works synergistically with Vitamin C.
I just started my BF on this, as he has a lung dysfunction. Vitamin C has done wonders for him.
I am amazed that I have no pain, I had only know about MSM earlier, maybe I could have avoided some of my interactions with the medical field.
List of possible 'Bad Back' Remedies I have looked at over time.
- Alexander Technique
- Alkalize regime
- Aloe Vera
- Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV)
- Apple Pectin
- Bicarbonate of Soda
- Black Currant
- Black Pepper
- Borage Oil
- Boswella Carterii
- Bowen Therapy
- Bread elimination
- Bromelain / Pineapple
- Cabbage and Cabbage Juice
- Castor Oil (externally)
- Cayenne pepper
- Celery Juice
- Chanca Piedra
- Cherry Juice
- Chinese Parsley
- Chlorophyll (concentrated)
- Cinnamon (Sri Lankan)
- Coconut Oil
- Cod Liver Oil
- Cold packs
- Cold showers
- Collagen Type 2 (Chicken Cartilage)
- Colloidal Silver
- Dairy Elimination
- Devil's Claw
- Emu Oil
- Epsom Salts Bath (15 mins)
- Essential Oils (some) (Un-concentrated)
- Evening Primrose Oil
- Exercise (gentle but sustained and regular)
- Fish Oil
- Flax Seed Oil (Omega 3 & 6)
- Ginger Tea
- Gluten elimination
- Grain elimination
- Grapefruit juice (or "White" Grapefruit Juice?)
- Green Tea
- Hemp (if available) (Omega 3/6/9)
- Hyaluronic Acid
- Infra-red lamp (15 mins)
- Inclined-bed therapy
- Inversion Therapy (Not too long! )
- K Vitamin
- Lemon Juice
- Lemon Water
- Lime Juice
- Licorice Root (if you don't have high blood pressure)
- Licorice Tea (ditto)
- Magnesium Chloride (Liquid)
- Minerals (ALL)
- Molasses (Drink in morning)
- Molasses "Brew"
- MSM and Vitamin C
- Multi Mineral tablet (Crucial)
- Noni Juice
- Olive Oil
- Omega 3
- Peppermint Tea
- Pineapple / Bromelain
- Raised Bed Theory
- Relaxed Disposition
- Spa Bath
- Stress Reduction
- Stretching (with care) (not early a.m.! )
- Sugar elimination
- Tai Chi
- Tart Cherry Juice
- Turmeric and (Pinch of) Black Pepper
- Turmeric and Fenugreek
- Turmeric and Ginger Tea
- Turmeric in Tomato Juice
- Turmeric Powder
- Turmeric Tea
- Vitamin K
- Vitamin B 6
- Vitamin B12
- Vitamin C
- Vitamin C Flushing/Higher Dosage
- Vitamin D
- Vitamin E
- Water (increased amount)
- Willow Bark
- Yeast elimination
- N.B. (Some sea-foods/shellfish & herbs may be suspect during pregnancy or contra-indicate with other meds).
I recently did some labour and threw out something in my lower back. The pain seems to come back stronger when I try to get out of bed. It is in the lower back just above the hips. Topical application of DMSO and essential oil of peppermint make the pain diminish the pain so I can move out of bed and walk.
I just started Apple Cider Vinegar doses and Turmeric in Extra Virgin Olive Oil and Coconut oil too.
The pain seems to be a muscle spasm, like a charlie horse in the lower back. When I straighten my legs, the spasm subsides.
(New York, NY)
A few things have helped with my ruptured disc L-5 and bulging of 4 3 2 discs:
- Water soaks in Epsom salt and drinking 16 oz. water and eating an apple with salt on it in the tub. Stay in tub as long as you can.
- Take mineral and vitamin supplements, drink glass of water half an hour before any eating.
- Use an inversion table to open the spine up. Don't go all the way back, just till you feel the pull on the spine
- Ice packs on the spine 10 minutes then heat 30 minutes... Repeat a few times.
The middle of my back, between shoulder blade and spine, started having severe pain, with dull ache and stabbing pain when I moved or did anything. My skin is almost as bad with the burning, pins and needles, and crawling sensation. I have tried chiropractor, acupunture, pulsed magnetic therapy, herbal cleansing, stretching. It has been months now and still NADA, and now my back is becoming numb. I can hardly work. I am miserable.
(Syracuse, New York)
Hello EC supporters... I am not even 40 years old yet and I suffer from occasional back pain that my chiropractor has diagnosed as early signs of arthritis. I also suffer from chronic sciatic nerve pain in one leg. We attribute the onset to the constant sitting at work, in my car or at school at night. The first thing I did was try to get moving as much as possible and avoid the urge to sit when possible. Then I pulled up EC to find out what Ted and the rest of you were doing about your pain.
I was happy to find out the my trusty ACV with baking powder might do the trick. I immediately started on a regime of the following:
* 1 Tblsp ACV
* 6oz Boling Filtered Water
* 1/4 teasp Baking Soda (check expiration date)
* 1 teasp raw Local Honey (if possible)
* 2oz Unsweet Fruit Juice (I prefer unfiltered Apple)
Add baking soda to boiling filtered water and let it fizzle. Once the fiz is over, add your AVC and stir. Add honey and juice (juice is optional). Stir until cool enough to drink. Sip over 30-45 min on an *empty stomach*.
It tastes really yummy!
2 weeks ago I started experiencing low back pain and pain in my sciatic nerve on my leg. The pain was horrible. I could not sit in one position for long, laying down was uncomfortable and moving from sitting/laying to standing was very painful. I made 2 visits a week to my chiropractor and he seem to make it better for a couple of hours and then I was back to lots of pain.
Like I said above, I logged onto EC and started the recipe above immediately. I started it mid-day and again at night to get the process going.
I also started walking at lunch time for about 25 mins and running again in the evenings. (Movement felt 100 x better than standing still) At first the walking and running was great until I had to go back to sitting. After 3- 4 days of moving more and drinking my ACV tea in the mornings - I started to notice a tremendous difference. I could sit and stand up without grunting and I could sit for long periods w/o getting stiff. Now 7 days later, I feel 95% better. I still get a little stiff if I don't move around at least every 20 minutes BUT I truly believe the ACV tea drink helped to resolve my pain. WHY? Only GOD in heaven and Ted knows. :-).
Other supplements I am taking:
* Evening Primerose Oil caps (2-3 /day)
* Flax Seed Oil cap (2/ day)
* Lecithin cap (2-3/ day)
* L-Lysine (2/ day)
* Tumeric/Blackpepper/Cayenne Pepper Caps (4/day)
(the tumeric caps were homemade using vegetarian capsules) - -1 cup tumeric / 1-2 Tbsp black ground pepper / 1/4 cup cayenne pepper - - mix and fill capsules. Take 4 per day with meal or beverage. It may upset an empty stomach.
Helps with so many things like, Blood pressure, inflammation, blood circulation, clear skin, diarrhea, aids digestion and cayenne helps stop a heart attack or stroke (but medical attention is still needed)
Enjoy and I look forward to your feedback!
I have had series of injuries to my back... (okay--mainly just abused it) anyway it was recommended sometime back by a physical therapist I was seeing that following his treatment I should have regular myofascial release sessions. Today (3 years later) I went for a sesssion. I was wondering if anyone on here has experience or feedback on this technique? Also, following the session it was suggested that I take Arnica Montana-- (a homeopathy herb I was not familiar with). Anyone want to weigh in on this Topic?
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
20yrs back, I dealt with a recurring spasm in the lower right side of my back. The Dr that I was seeing at the time could only prescribe muscle relaxers that did nothing and also anti inflammatories that helped a little. His recommendation was to find a Neuromuscular Specialist, like a massage therapist w/sports medicine training. The last episode with this went beyond previous flair ups that I could grin & bare. This last one felt like a hot fire poker stuck in my back with a lighting bolt pain shooting down into my big toe. I couldn't even walk and had me layed up for almost 2 weeks.
I found a specialist that explained to me that a knotted up muscle can remain in our bodies forever and won't even know it's there until the next flair up unless a knowledgeable person can find & reach the problem to apply the right pressure to get it to relax and lay flat again.
Turned out that my issue stemmed from stupid things done in my teen years and had followed me into my late 30's. When she first started working on me there was even more discomfort & pain inflicted.
After 4 or 5 sessions over the course of a couple of weeks.The pain started to ease off,was able to start walking normal again. There was another time months down the road when I went back to her for help...straighten me out again. From my late 30's to present (57soon),I have not dealt with sciatica nerve pain at all but also within the last ten years I have steered clear of all Pharma...even over the counter meds, no aspirin, Tylenol, Ibeprofon and ect . Only depend on natural herbs & oils. Turmeric & Ginger are 2 tops for me. I happened to come across crystallized Ginger at Big Lots today. I tend to snack on it to curb cravings for sweets but it also helps the body feel better.
Benefits of using Sesame Oil for Oil Pulling Therapy
I tried Sesame Oil after experiencing severe back pain from a tramatic injury to my tailbone and my coccyx bone became misaligned, which caused severe pain when I'm sitting down. I also have chronic knee pain, stomach pains, occasional headaches and an infection on the right side of my mouth. I began the oil pulling therapy on July 21, 2009 and after 3-4 weeks I saw a noticeable decrease in my back pain. I used to have difficulty being seated for periods longer than one hour and had horrible pain after riding in a car or driving for long distances. I have experienced such remarkable improvements in my results that I was able to drive from Georgia to Maryland with no pain in my back or my knee, 5 weeks after I began oil pulling therapy. I no longer have headaches or pain in my stomach. I have also noticed that the pain in my mouth is gone because the infection has obviously disappeared!! I feel absolutely wonderful that I am now pain-free and I have accomplished this without surgery or chemical drugs and medication. I am happy to say that my girlfriend and family members have now begun oil pulling therapy.
EC: More about Oil Pulling here: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/oil_pulling.html
I have found eating 2 leaves a day of pennywort (Centella Asiatica) relieves back pain in a few days.
Just collect them and chew them up. They have very little taste. It takes a few days to start feeling relief.
I am long overdue to go to the chiropractor. (I have scoliosis and if I go to the chiropractor once a month my back is usually pretty good.) Anyway, I haven't been for months. I have one spot on my upper back that is really bothering me. I also have some nerve pain and numbness on and of in my arm and fourth finger. (This means I am way overdue for the chiropractor! I have had it happen before.) Meanwhile, I have used ice and peppermint essential oil and this gives me a measure of relief for a few hours after application.
I sit with a frozen rice sock on the pained spot in my back, or rub neat (undiluted) peppermint essential oil on my back on the spot that bothers me a lot. After a while, I realize the pain is a lot less. The peppermint was especially helpful yesterday when I was away from home and didn't have my frozen rice sock. I always keep peppermint essential oil in my purse (and a few other oils.)
I think both of these things work because they are helping to reduce inflammation.
Ok, now I will go and call the chiropractor. :)
~Mama to Many~
MY THEORY ON BACK PROBLEMS
IF MY Theory is correct, to repair back problems is simple.. My theory comes from reading a book written by C. SAMUEL WEST, D.N…N.D… TITLE OF BOOK… THE GOLDEN SEVEN PLUS ONE…
He talks about trapped proteins, and salt a poison.. Talks about our cells in our body.. when they are not healthy, we start dying..The body works on electrical current.. We can heal ourselves with the electricity that flows thru our bodies…. It would be easy if we could plug ourselves in someplace and get recharged. But not that easy.. We must eat proper balanced diet of food and exercise to keep our body generators going which is our cells. Yes, our small cells are generators.. they must always be in top shape to keep our body healthy..
Our cells are mostly potassium with a little salt.. the minute we eat too much salt it pushes the potassium out of the cells.. the body start to get sick..
Listen to this.. the bones in our back start falling apart.. Then you have back problems.. I really feel that most people that have back problems are very low in potassium. Like # 1 or 2.. which is a low potassium level…
The minute we cut out the salt.. the potassium make our cells healthy.. Then the bones in our back go back in place.. No more back problems.. When you take a physical.. how many of you ask for potassium test. If the numbers they give you are between 3-5.. your potassium level is normal, your generators (cells) are in good shape..I just finished a physical, when they took my blood ..I asked for a Potassium test. They said Why do you want that? How do you answer.. I said because I want to live for 200 years.. Well I got my test.. reading was 4.4 . Never had any back problems..
I could be all wet.. In my theory..So if you have a different idea, I would love to hear it.
Thanks for your time. And interest