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John Sarno Book

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Posted by Joy (Battleground, Wash) on 04/27/2013
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I read heal back pain by John Sarno and he believes the body creates distractions in the form of health issues to protect the mind from issues that it deems to difficult to cope with. In the book he talks about how when you finally call the bluff of a health issue and ignore it, it moves to symptoms in another part of the body.... how weird!

Subconscious illnesses, made to keep us sane? What illness would you choose, if you could pick one and ditch all the ones you are currently trying to figure out?

It is interesting, my mom has alzheimers and since she has no memory, she no longer has IBS, high blood pressure, tension disorders, Candida, or emotional outburst and she has had numerous death defying health issues over the years.

Replied by Oldriska
(Prague, Czech Republic)
05/01/2013

The idea is interesting. I used to wonder if I had imposed my illness on me somehow - subconsiously, or otherwise; I think it's one of the phases some people with a serious health problem go through. As much as I would love to get rid of my condition, which is atypical trigeminal neuralgia (constant facial pain), or trade it off for more "smaller" issues, I find that there is little I can do. Ignoring the disease is impossible, if there is pain as a constant reminder. So even when people tell me not to think about the pain and I'll be okay, they don't know what they're talking about. Nerves are a part of the autonomous nerve system -- no matter how hard I try, wish or pray or try to ignore them -- I cannot stop them from hurting. Maybe I just did a bad job picking my illness:)

Replied by Joy
(Battleground , Wash)
05/01/2013

Yes, I have had shingles at least 5 times, and one episode set off the nerves on my left rib and couldn't wear anything tight on it for over two years. As I wrote in my post... Pick your illness... to help others because John Sarno called his illness bluff and overcame by perseverance and study.

I have found my answers and overcome all but two huge liver cysts (autoimmune), the teeth need made NEW. I read a LOT. 5-8 hours a day and I don't feel very intelligent but I am determined. Nerve pain is excruciating...

I encourage you to read the work of Dr. Batmanghelidj. Watercure.com... and Carolyn Dean, the miracle of magnesium, and read about coconut oil, since I have come to believe it heals the body teeth to rectum.... Get a good multi mineral and milti vitamin and some omegas and GO SLOW VERY SLOW. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN AGONY. You can overcome too. I found one of my answers after much search and trial on 4-27-13.. YAY :)

The body will heal given the right ingredients at the right time and I am proof.
- 1-2 cups water 1/2 hour before food
- Eat normal meal with coconut oil in food with supplements of magnesium citrate plus multi mineral and mutli vitamins and omegas and folic acid, betafood, sea salt in diet every meal
- 1-2 cups water 1/2 hour before next meal,
- Eat normal with magnesium citrate and multi mineral and betafood, coffee is a weakness so I drink some water between meals
- 1-2 cups water 1/2 hour before next meal
- Eat normal with betafood, some coffee

I also add yogurt, cranberry and garlic for intestinal health... May your JOY BE FULL

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
05/01/2013

Oldriska--I don't know if this will help but pain comes from inflammation. I had been informed over twenty years ago that magnesium provides some protection against the stimulating effects of hidden sources of MSG, which has permeated our food supply. I've had multiple injuries but have not had the pain I used to have before I started taking it every day. I thought eating more spinach was giving me the calcium I needed after a hysterectomy. Prior to that I had been eating spinach to keep my eyes from drying out so I could tolerate contacts. Long story shortened: spinach and chocolate contain oxalic acid that prevents the absorption of magnesium that is required so calcium can do its job. Believe me I learned the hard way due to the grinding bone-on-bone pain after neck and back injuries.

Replied by Kathy
(the USA)
05/01/2013

Hello again Oldriska--I had to stop posting earlier and couldn't finish... I sent it without proof reading. You might want to try taking 1/4-1/2 tsp of turmeric in warm water when you are in pain. Hidden sources of manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) are hard to stay away from. "MSG" is a nerve stimulant. Turmeric and ginger reduce inflammation. I use them both on my vegetables and eggs. Just make sure there are no fillers in the ingredients. Beware of the flowing/anti-caking agent in your salt. Try using "Real Salt".

Replied by Bess
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
05/01/2013

Hi Oldriska: I'm so sorry you are in such pain. Have you checked out Earth Clinic's page on Trigeminal Neuralgia?

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/trigeminal_neuralgia.html

Also, facial massage, trigger point release, acupressure and acupuncture have been of use to some. I hope you find something that works for you. Take care, Bess

Replied by Leah
(Philadelphia)
05/03/2013

Have you looked into DMSO for your pain?

Replied by Mary
(Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada)
05/04/2013

Hi Joy: What is beta food? Did Dr. B's water cure help you loose any weight? (if you needed to I mean) I was shocked to learn the edema I have been suffering all these years meant that I was dehydrated and lacking salt. I was and am shocked. Thank you again!!! I will let you know how `The Water Cure`works for me. Am very intrigued!!!! Mary

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/04/2013

AF betafood is a lot of things in one supplement, for gallbladder support. Root of beet, carrot, oat flour , dried beet leaf, defatted wheat germ, cal mag bovine liver nutritional yeast bovine kidney alfalfa flour ect.. Etc.. Worth the big expense if your digestion is faulty. I took ten a day for a month a felt much better able to digest my food.

One thing Dr. Batman didn't go into a lot of detail about that I was missing was that magnesium in a raito of 1 cal 1 mag is best because our food is high calcium and that also affects our bodies water systems.

I'm not losing any weight but using coconut oil and was using the meat trying to get digestive tract free of yeast and trying to heal liver cysts. One problem at a time.... Hope you find yourself feeling better and eating more variety.

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/09/2013

John Sarno also wrote in Heal Back Pain about how the body would first create the pain and then as you would get the one area of pain under control it would be re-created in some area that had not been in pain. I find this very interesting after years of knocking out health issues and having a new one crop up out of nowhere.

It feels like I am always having to do research to find new answers. Maybe I'll get one that is not so awful and just stop there..........???

How many books does it take to solve the dis-ease? I have a full library now and those are the best of the best of the best after years of research. I am thankful not to have the stomach aches, the ear aches, the knee problems, the hip pain, (my sockets are too big for the balls on my legs to stay in )the blurry vision ( explained to me that I was allergic and my eyes were shedding cells blurring my sight), the dandruff that would fall off and leave an open wound under it, that scabbed over. The depression... The shoulder, neck, and back pain... The ringing in my ears.... The allergy to my hormones each month producing the lump under my arm, the fear and panics, and body tremors, wrist problems, nightmares for years on end, snoring. (we are talking BUZZ SAW, the kids thought it was their dad) LOL :- () Oh and the burps and gas and inability to digest and eliminate food. Liver cysts, pelvic prolapse and top that all off with the dreaded CANDIDA. Head trauma, short and long term memory loss, ADHD and dyslexia..... I was the healthiest sick person at the doctors office.

This doesn't include all the drama at the dentist.

A chiropractor treated me for LYME disease with frequencies. He said I had the worst case they had ever seen and were surprised that I had walked in. It felt that way to me. I didn't know I had it. He charged me very little.

Whitmire Chiropractic, Vanc. Wash. He is the only person who has this treatment, I asked.

He did spinal adjustments and treated some allergies with frequencies... Seemed to help a lot. He also uses a light to desensitize.

My husband loves me but thinks I am a gullible NUT JOB. I just want to be well and done with it.

Now pelvic and hormone and liver and thyroid and teeth.... LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS OH MY! Where does it end..... The book is interesting. I bought the second one.... The divided mind!

If nothing else it is good comedy. WE are so vulnerable. If you get to pick an illness find a simple one like thinking you are the queen of sheba or something.... Love, Joy

Replied by Joy
(Battleground, Wash)
05/13/2013

Mary you asked me about weight... I gained some trying stuff but it was worth it. Since the stevia incident I have dropped my protocol and lost 5 pounds this week. My goal is to drop 5 more in the next two weeks, tell you how in my next post ..... I'm going to run a post you might be interested in about a show my spouse talked me into watching on OPB . I don't watch much t.v.


Leg Lifts

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Posted by Anita (Corpus Christi, Tx) on 05/23/2016 3 posts
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I have been reading on Earth Clinic and recommending the site to others for years, and I have tried almost all of the cures for back pain. Most suggestions helped temporarily, and I do think there is value in the remedies I tried, but I have found something that helps me long-term: leg lifts.

I am a 45 year old woman, and I want to help you because I know the pain and frustration you are experiencing. There were times I could not get off the floor because of the pain.

I got shoved to the floor at a rock concert when I was 17 and have had lower back pain in increasing intensity since. When I was 30, my hip would fall out of its socket, and starting about age 33, I would regularly trip on sidewalk cracks, which would send a shooting pain through my back. I remained active through it all, even running a 5K, but the pain kept coming back.

I went to 4 different chiropractors for 6 months at a time, and they helped, but it was prohibitively expensive and, of course, temporary. One chiropractor told me that I had advanced stage arthritis in my lumbar vertebrae and that I would have to get treatment for the rest of my life or my spine would fuse completely. I didn't believe this was my fate.

I was in a bad car accident when I was 35. I was rear-ended while I was at a stop sign and the result was horrendous whip-lash. I couldn't even stand up without passing out. Back to the chiropractor I went. The first adjustment helped me to start functioning again. I recognized a pattern at this chiropractor. He had a tool that was hooked up to a computer and he would run it along my spine. I asked him about it. He said that it measured how much my muscles were pulling by how much heat they put out. If the muscles were pulling equally on both sides (and the computer would show a green color), then he reasoned the adjustments he did to my spine were "taking". If one of the muscles attached to a vertebrae were pulling harder on one side, it meant that muscle was working harder, so the computer would show a yellow(moderate pulling) or red (pulling hard) color and he reasoned that the adjustments weren't "taking".

What he didn't know was that I was conducting my own experiment. I would go to the gym and lift weights for a week before he ran his test, and the colors on the computer would be green (muscles pulling evenly). Then I would not lift weights for a couple weeks and when he ran his test the results would be a mess of yellow and red. And the pain would come back.

I knew the chiropractor could put my vertebrae back where they belonged, but I wanted to figure out what was making the vertebrae get out of place.

I truly believe that if we use our muscles, it will even out our spines.

My husbands spine was a giant "S" from carrying a ladder at work every day. He stopped carrying the ladder and lifted weights intensely for 6 months. His next x-ray showed that his spine was perfectly straight!

I also figured out that my right leg was lower than my left leg (after much research on Earth Clinic) due to my hips being misaligned. My hips were tilted forward and down, more so on my right side. This is why I kept tripping over sidewalk cracks with my right foot. So I started researching hip exercises and found some videos on the internet. I did the exercises and realigned my hips! I did these leg lifts every day at first, and now I only do them about twice a week to keep my hips in line. I have no more lower back pain, and if I feel it coming on, I do the leg lifts and it goes away!

This is the main pain reliever: Lay on the floor (or in bed if you have to) on your side. Don't prop yourself on your elbow, just lay on the floor. Your legs should be stacked (you can bend the bottom leg for stability). Now lift your top leg about 18 inches. While the top leg is elevated, at the peak of the lift, twist it so your toes point toward the sky. Hold this for a count of 3. Then twist it back so your toes point forward again. And then lower your leg back down to stack on the bottom leg. Super easy. Lift, twist, hold, untwist, lower. Do this about 20 times, or as many as is comfortable. You will feel the muscle at your hip get a little cranky. That means it's getting stronger. Roll over and do the same on the other side with the other leg.

I also do similar exercises called "clam shells" Where you lay on your side with both knees bent and lift your top knee about 10 inches while keeping your feet together. Put your hand on your hip to make sure your hip is not moving while you lift your knee. You will feel this toward the back of your hip joint in your gluteus. Do about 25 of these or as many as you can. These muscles will get strong quickly!

We don't use these muscles in day-to-day living, not even running. I believe that when these hip rotator muscles atrophy, our hips become misaligned and it pinches the lumbar vertebrae. Before I started doing these exercises, I had horrible pain, and it receded after the first set. After about 4 days of doing these leg lifts 3 times a day, the pain was gone!

There are a lot of videos on the internet that show exercises for realigning your hips, just search "hips" on the video site. The ones I found to be most effective are by physical therapists who do the exercises themselves to show you how.

I also keep my upper back pain free by lifting free weights at home during TV commercials. I don't lift heavy weights, rarely over 5 lbs. I think the key is to keep using muscles evenly, especially if you have a job where you have to use your dominant arm to lift or repeat movements.

I hope this saves someone a lot of pain and hassle. Don't give up. Do what you can, and especially just keep moving!

God bless you all.

Anita

Replied by Peryn
(Kennesaw, Ga)
06/05/2016

Could you provide links for the exercise videos you mentioned?

Doreen
(NS, Canada)
05/07/2022

Look up BobandBrad on YouTube, or bobandbrad.com. They are physiotherapists who have lots of videos on the body.

Replied by Edy
(CA)
05/06/2022

Look up Sciatica flossing. Same sort of thing, but you are actually "flossing" the nerve that's giving so much pain back and forth rather than squishing it by bending or walking.


Lemons

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Posted by Maggie (Kansas) on 02/27/2022 5 posts
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Is there an ailment category for stiffness or achiness upon waking in the mornings that goes away after awhile? I couldn't find anything on EC about it. And/Or if there is a place for liver help, whatever you name the category, here is the remedy I want to share:

Lemon Slice a Day

In a glass of water, squeeze a slice of lemon. Cut and scrape out the membranes and put them in too. Drop in the wedge. Drink everything up at your leisure (not the wedge of course! ). Pour in more water after you drink it throughout the day. Have more lemon pieces if you want, but one wedge a day is the minimum. I read that lemon is the best at helping out the liver. Lemons helped me better than ACV even! - and this has really helped me not feel so stiff and painful with tight muscles in the mornings when I wake up.

Keep hydrated and avoid Tylenol to help your liver out too!

Replied by Carolyn
(Ontario)
05/06/2022

Always drink lemon water with a straw to protect the enamel on your teeth!

Replied by Cfitz
(Georgia)
05/18/2022

Hello, Maggie!

Funny I just came across your post, because yesterday I typed up a list of the benefits of lemon juice. Here 'tis:

Drink Warm Lemon Water Every Morning: 1 Tbsp in 8 oz warm water

Helps You Digest; Cleanses Your System As a Diuretic; Stimulates Your Immune System; Balances pH Levels; Cleanses Skin; Gives You Energy and Improves Your Mood; Boosts Healing; Freshens Breath; Hydrates Your Lymphatic System; and Helps You Lose Weight.

And in regard to Diuretics, here's more: Eliminate toxins from the body. Consume Watermelons, Tomatoes, Cucumbers, Blueberry Juice, Carrots, Celery, Grapes, and Asparagus. Of course, certified organics are the best.


Lifestyle Changes

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Posted by Rob (Manhattan, Ny) on 03/21/2012
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Similarily I suffer from poor posture from over 20 years of hunched over computer work. The solution is unfortunately not a quick fix but steps can be taken to improve the condition over time with lifestyle changes. In addition to the above recommendations I would add yoga to your weekly practice.. If you can't find a local class there are online programs and videos to help you, but a skilled yoga practitioner could give you some corrective poses. (be cautious however as many yoga poses are in fact too extreme & unnecessary) Simply placing a yoga mat near your work area (I work out of home) and taking frequent breaks by just lying on your back and doing some simple exercises and breathing can help break your routine of hunching over at the computer. Making something routine is key in correcting this... I purchased a simple chin up bar... Placing near or on the bathroom door.. And ever time I use the bathroom I give myself a body stretch... Not necessary to do a chinup but just to grab onto it and release my weight enough to stretch my spine.. In addition to the above nutrition tips I would add Natto.. (if you can enjoy its unusual consitency) In Japan it is often eaten for breakfast... (I have it with eggs when I eat them)..

here is a link about yoga & dowagers hump:

http://www.parentgiving.com/elder-care/dump-the-dowagers-hump/

& about Natto & osteopenia

http://www.osteopenia3.com/Natto-Osteopenia.html


Low Back Pain and Spondylitis

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Posted by Lady_m (S.f. Bay Area, California, Usa) on 05/01/2010
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I just wanted to reiterate that chronic severe low back pain could be related to a VERY RARE but serious disease (Ankylosing Spondylitis, which I have) and should be x-rayed for signs of sacroiliitis.

I had plantar fasciitis for years and then developed spondylitis. THESE 2 AILMENTS ARE NOT MEDICALLY RELATED. PLEASE DON'T WORRY YOURSELVES TOO MUCH.

Replied by Dana
(Cabarlah, Qld.)
05/07/2022

Have you researched the No Low carb. diet for AS; Facebook group.


Magnesium

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Posted by Swhit (Los Angeles, Ca, Usa) on 05/25/2012
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I have suffered from a bad back for at least 20 yrs. I have tried everything and not until recently has anything worked as well as Magnesium Oil. You spray it on you, anywhere you like, not even the hurting parts and instantly works. If you take Calcium you have to take Magnesium as one contracts and the other expands (forget which is which) but without the other you can feel pain, headaches etc. , They put Calcium in everything these days, OJ, Milk, etc. , so it is important to take either topically or orally extra Magnesium.


Magnesium
Posted by Jill (Walnut Creek, Ca) on 03/17/2011

Greetings Earth Clinic Readers, After listening to a radio program recommended by an Earth Clinic commenter by Mark Sircus, I went and purchased some Magnesium Chloride tablets. It has been over four months now and I am thrilled with the results. I am forty years old and the tightness in my back had gotten so bad I couln't walk far without throwing it out of alignment creating more tightness. Not having insurance or money for a doctor, I decided to research the magnesium books and Dr. Mark Sircus' website. My hips have been tight since my late teens no matter how much yoga, walking, stretching I did. After starting with the Magnesium Therapy I'm happy to report an overall relaxation of the muscles in my body, so that I can now do therapeutic exercises without stressing my muscles. The magnesium supplements have taken away the pain and stiffness. I have purchased magnesium oil and am now using it transdermally. As a side note Dr. Sircus'advice about Iodine sounds very promising and I've just ordered iodine supplements as well.

Live long and prosper.

Replied by Coco
(Teaneck, Nj)
03/18/2011

Can you be so kind and describe more in detail your symptoms ?Thanks a lot for writing back.


Magnesium
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 06/12/2009 391 posts
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I have a direct feedback from a couple of users of Inversion table for their back problems, while it goes away rather quickly it keeps coming back. The maximum time in reducing the problem is 4 days and then it comes again. It's no permanent solution otherwise they had to go to the hospital again and again or had to buy the machine. That's not the CAUSE of the problem. The problem is the muscles pull on the back along with the usual weight problem, but it's always the excess calcium in the muscle tissue and the nerves that causes the muscle pull back and "contract" causing a back problem. If it happens long enough it can cause spinal "compression".. To reverse this and see the result significantly is to just take the magnesium supplements. Not just any magnesium supplement, but the water soluble kind. The worse magnesium supplements I have ever seen is sold in most drug store, and if I read their ingredient, it's mostly worthless, such as magnesium phosphate, magnesium oxide and magnesium carbonate. These have very poor water solubility and is not bioavailable. Whenever the added wax on top of that to keep the tablets in nice form, they also block the absorption such as mangesium stearate. The other thing that prevents magnesium from being utilized is the problem of calcium carbonate or any calcium that is mixed in the supplements.

The best form of magnesium I have found are magnesium chloride has the least of the problem and the magnesium gluconate. After taking them sa 100-250 mg the muscle pain will be reduced within 30 minutes and most is gone by the third or fourth day, including the back pain. The key to using these forms of magnesium is to dilute with plenty of water so it won't have the laxative effect and cannot be mixed with any alkaline preparations such as baking soda or citrates. The magnesium is taken solo. One simple way to take it that I h ave used for the fastest acid reflux remedy is the magnesium solution at 60-80% plus distilled water at 20%-40% and prepare as a dropper where the dose is between 6-12 drops in a glass of water depending on your size the dose is adjusted accordingly. For example a person of 120 pounds will likely take 5 drops but a person twice that weight likely to take 10 drops in a glass of water. I prepare in dilutions such as this to prevent the laxative effect and hence greater magnesium absorption. This is the best of all remedies for most of the back pain problem I have noticed without the use of pain killers.

Ted

Replied by Meena
(Fremont, Ca, Usa)
09/25/2010

Hello Ted
I have a chronic low back pain and fibroid problem also. Yesterday I discovered this site and bought and started ACV baking soda first time and wondering can I start taking Magnesium also for my low back pain which I have it from last 3 years as I am scheduled to get the epidural shot on oct 15th2010. I have already tried this shot, acupuncture, physical therapy, chiropractor but nothing helped. So please advice it I want to start magnesium as I read you should avoid baking soda so can I take it after 2-3 hours of taking ACV baking soda. Thank you, Meena

Replied by Gabriela
(Tola, Nicaragua)
09/27/2010

Did you try Neural Therapy for managing the pain?

Replied by Dg
(Rosemead, Ca, Usa)
01/28/2011

Hi Ted, I've been having a lower back pain for over a year now, usually in the past when I had lower back pain, it goes away in a few days or so, not this time, I've tried almost everything from this site, BSM, ACV, resveratrol, resveratrol helps for the first week, then it came back, I'm trying hyaluronic acid as I'm typing this, it's been exactly a week today, I'm going to keep continue for another week or two, in the mean time, I also saw your other article that the most important is magnesium chloride, then I see it again in this article, so I suppose I should do both ?? in this article you mentioned the dilution which is 60 - 80 % MC and 20 - 40% distilled water, 5 - 10 drops depending on your weight, you didn't mention how many times per day you need to take 5 - 10 drops ?? is it 2 or 3 times ?? please advise, I'm much better now after the hyaluronic acid, but I still feel the discomfort in my lower back around morning time and when I sit down, I almost didn't feel any pain when I walk or work or even lift some heavy things.

Thank you Ted, greatly appreciate your article about hyaluronic acid and this article about magnesium chloride, I believe these will help me getting back in shape.

I appreciate some reader's inputs, but before Anyone Replies and suggesting me something, please keep in mind, I've tried almost EVERYTHING, from heat pack, ice pack, tons of chiropractors visits, inversion table, lumbar support, etc.

Replied by Dorothy
(Friedrichsdorf, Germany)
01/29/2011

I also had a bout with severe back pain and nothing worked including many visits to the chiropractor. By chance I read the small print on my high blood pressure medicine which I had recently started taking and it says lower back pain could be a side effect caused by magnesium deficiency. Although I was taking magnesium which I had from the U. S. It was not being absorbed and fortunately I had a high quality one from Germany (effervescent) and after taking this for 2 days the back pain went away. I later learned from German pharmacists that with certain high blood pressure medicine (diuretics) one needs to take magnesium because the medication depletes the body's magnesium.

Replied by Joni
(Madison, Wi.)
06/27/2011

THE PERSON FROM GERMANY, CAN WE GET THAT MAGNESIUM OVER THE WEB? And what is it?

Replied by Garry
(Los Angeles, California)
09/19/2011

The magnesium from Germany is most likely Magnesium Citrate powder, one of the major products in Europe its called "d-i-a-s-p-o-r-a-l" just remove the hyphens and do a internet search to get a better description of the product and its ingredient list.

Replied by Lonni
(Utah)
02/25/2016

Hi Ted,

The only kind of Magnesium Chloride I could find locally in stores was a bath salt in big flakes. I bought it but then decided it would be next to impossible to dose uniformly and accuately, unless you have some ideas. Should I return it and order online, or do I dare pop a couple flakes into distilled water and gulp? Thanks, Lonni

Replied by Jess
(Mi, Usa)
02/25/2016

You can use your flakes to make Magnesium Oil, which some people take internally. It may not be very palatable, I haven't tried it.

Bring 1/2 cup distilled water to a boil. Add 1/2 cup magnesium flakes. Dissolve. Use this to spray on the body for transdermal application. 1 teaspoon has 550-600 mg of magnesium. You could try 1/8 teaspoon a few times a day and see how if it agrees with you. Cut back if you get diarrhea. I wouldn't take more than 1 teaspoon total in a day, though.


Magnesium
Posted by Helen (Beirut, Lerbanon) on 03/30/2008
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Thanks for earth clinic and for Ted, my daughter has Scoliosis and she is suffering from back pain ,I'm giving her Magnesium 250 mg daily ,since it stopped her pains she is taking 500 mg daily ,it cured her pains ,thanks Ted but I want to know if the dose is too much for her ,she is 13 years old.

Replied by Joyce
(Joelton, TN)
04/01/2008
495 posts

Response to Helen of Beirut, Lebanon 3/30/08:

Hi Helen, I'm not Ted but I can answer your question about the magnesium your daughter is taking. If she is getting too much magnesium it quickly lets you know because you get diarrhea from it and nobody needs a doctor to tell them when they have diarrhea, do they?

The lovely part of this is that magnensium has lots of function in the body and it is also one of the minerals our modern day junk/fast food diets leave us short on. To learn what this magnesium deficiency causes, I urge everyone to research EXCITOTOXINS on line and pay particular attention to anything from Russell Blaylock. James South also has a very informative and easy to follow on them.

The two major excitotoxins that our foods are laden with are monosodium glutamate and aspartame.

MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE AND ASPARTAME
ARE NOT JUST FOUND IN ASIAN STIR-FRIED FOODS.
They are found in all processed foods in all cultures.

We can protect ourselves from a lot of this by learning what names they hide them under (ingredients list) and leaving those on the grocery shelf. It is not possible to omit MSG found in our vaccines to protect us from things such as measles, mumps, polio, etc.

To protect ourselves and our families, we must also know some things that can block absorption of MSG and aspartame. Mike Adams interview (available on line) with Dr. Russell Blaylock is very informative and should be fairly easy to follow for most people. In this he mentions that a lot of monosodium glutamate damage to our brains are found to also be accompanied by a magnesium deficiency!
James South quotes a Dr. Mildred Seelig, a noted magnesium expert, calculated that a minimum of 8 mgms. of magnesium per kilogram of body weight are needed daily to prevent cellular magnesium deficiency (560 mgm day needed for l54 pound adult). Our Western world diets usually supplies only l75-275 mgm/day, about 1/2 of the amount needed.

Dr. Blaylock, in his interview with Mike Adams, also mentions other MSG blockers such as amino acids (leucine, isoleucine and lysine), silimarin, curcumin and ginkgo biloba, and most of the flavonoids.

Dr. Blaylock only talks about what excitotoxins do to the brain & central nervous system! Reading up on Metabolic Syndrome X (which orthox medicine now calls insulin resistance will tell you what these same excitotoxins do the rest of the body. Have fun reading.

So Helen, keep giving that daughter the magnesium to protect her from the above and don't worry about too much unless she develops diarrhea - if she does just reduce the amount.

Replied by Helen
(Beirut, Lerbanon)
04/02/2008

Thanks Joyce for your reply it was very helpful to me, now I know she can take around 600 mg daily(she's over weight) ,I read all the report of Dr. Blaylock ,and I believe in all what he said , and I think everybody must read it, here is the link www.naturalnews.com/020550.html


Magnesium
Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 05/24/2007 391 posts

Sometimes the sudden pain, from lower back (at least for me, which is more often than I care to recall) is due to a magnesium deficiency. If I take say 250 mg of magnesium chloride or other similar magnesium such as mangesium citrate or magnesium gluconate, the pain goes away completely on the third or fourth day. However most of the intolerable pain goes away in about 30 minutes to an hour. In case magnesium is not available, you can try sunflower seeds which contain some magnesium. But they take a lot longer to see results - sometimes more than a week.

Replied by Joyce
(Joeton, TN)
04/03/2008

To Helen from Beirut,4/2/08:

Hello again Helen, I am concerned that you might have just skipped over an importance point in that interview with Dr. Blaylock. Please go back and read that again, taking special note of: "Now one of the things we are hearing a lot about is childhood obesity. One early observation with excitotoxicity is it makes animals grossly obese". We may be the higher order of animals but Dr. Blaylock tells us that we humans store much more of MSG & aspartame than other animals do. While Dr. Blaylock writes about the effects of these two on the brain, these 2 also cause a lot of other problems.

If you can find a copy of "The Carbohydrate Addict's Healthy Program" by Richard and Rachel Heller and Dr. Vagnini, it is an excellent source of what it does to other parts of the body. Fortunately the same major excitotoxins causing problems with the brain & central system are the same ones blamed for the problems mentioned in the above book. You can search Metabolic Syndrome X &/or Insulin Resistance and you can't help but realize that this is what the above book is about.

Since you said your daughter is overweight, I urge you to read up on this to keep your daughter from developing Diabetes Mellitus, type 2.

Replied by Carl
(Lagos, Lagos State, Nigeria)
07/08/2012

I started on Iodine recently and have been taking evaporated milk with it to mask the taste. I have over the years been suffering with lower back pain (On and off, more off). I have not had a spasm for some time. About 2 days ago I felt the first dreaded signs of an upcoming spasm. (I am currently finishing a huge project against deadlines so under a lot of stress as well and that always goes in hand with lower back pain for me) It hit me yesterday and I was debilitated with pain. :(. I started going through the site thinking the iodine played a role. I now realize that it might be the excessive milk I have been taken. I very rarely drink milk and only have cheese occasionally. So I believe the sudden intake with the resultant excess calcium must have played a role. Any body care to comment? It will be welcomed. I will now look for the Magnesium Chloride. I have used coconut oil (Natural Hair Treatment Product) this morning and it gave me some relieve. I also made one teaspoon of turmeric with ground black pepper and halve a spoon of ginger powder in warm water with a few drops of sesame oil. I mixed a teaspoon of honey to help getting it down. I do feel some relieve but nothing dramatic.

Peace to all, Carl


Magnetic Field Therapy

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 03/06/2017

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,, well, I got my new health toy today and it is a hi dollar PEMF system. Went the best way and that is the absolute top of the line system. Over my lifetime I have learned to buy the very best. I bought it to address my sleep, relaxation and back pain. Will post of my experience as I learn. I also post to get folks to start researching this system and what it can do for their health. It uses the natural magnetic frequencies of the earth.

Oh yeah, in addition to all the muscadines, blue berries and blackberries, we also planted a float of lettuce and spinach last Sat. Today, I bought a sack of range cubes to sink in the lake to attract minnows, which will then bring in Crappie. I cheats as all know. No better fish to eat than Crappie.

Trying to live off what God offers.

======ORH=======

Replied by Michael
(New Zealand)
03/07/2017

Well now ORH I will have to contest that final assertion of yours. Bold Claim that one! My son launched his flash second-hand "mega kayak" (too heavy to lug very far! ) for just the second time, day before yesterday. Normally an accomplished fisherperson, he was more hopping mad than I can recall seeing him the first trip out, when a single, good-sized fish slipped from his slippery grasp! This time we launched him into the briny, when a whole school of good-sized trevally leapt out of the water as if signalling a good omen. We are heavily back into omens at the moment. Probably a kingfish or a bronze whaler shark chasing them I suppose. Always worry when they paddle off into the sunset, even though they are thirty seven, especially when the last glimpse you get of them from my high vantage point was of him paddling amidst a hostile foaming reef!! Next thing you know he has returned with four very nice snapper for dinner. Took a while to prepare by moonlight (and one of those nifty head lamps). Much time spent slapping mosquitoes and exchanging tall tales! We don't waste much, as we turn the trimmings into a good, sustaining fish and onion soup. Any small bits deemed non-edible go into my small, prime vegetable patch as part of the good cycle of sustaining life. Nowt like fresh snapper though! Cannot afford to buy it any more, as prices are silly these days. Thanks son-drop by any time! Does he come to see his ole pa or cos of the good fishing? I am too old to lug his kayak. Sad really. Gotta look after what little back I have left. The fish are quite safe from me for the most part!!

Cheers, M

Replied by Steve
(Nv)
03/07/2017

Is it the earthpulse? I have one and it definitely helps with sleep issues.

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn)
05/26/2017

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,, using our PEMF system today to address my low back pain, lymphodema, and poison ivy. When I address a new ail, I call the guy who wrote the book and he counsels me on the proper way to used the system. I am also reading his book and it explains things that were heretofore unknown to me. I knew about the instances but did not know why. For instance, people have come up behind you with out a sound, yet you turned and they were there. How did you know? Well the book explains that most folks put out an electro-magnetic field that extends 15'. When their field came, you sensed that force and turned. I got a gut feeling that also happens to long time married folks when you know what they are going to say before they say it. They now can interpret your brain field before you can say what you are thinking. We have been married almost 57 years and we hang out together full time. It is dang near spooky. I now have no secrets.

I am learning but can understand how a PEMF device can sooth a back pain, but to dry up poison ivy on my face is beyond my comprehension. It is doing just that. It has also stopped the itch. This in not just a few blisters, this is a thick case that must have happened when I wiped the sweat off my face at the farm and had the ivy compound on my glove.

Our system has a mat, a pillow and a probe. I use the probe for the ivy.

My Tractor Driver is using this system to address here insomnia along with the IASIS treatments from our Integrative doctor in Ringgold, Ga. Something is working because she sleeping through the night. Hope this ditty gets you to thinking because some folks can read your mind and now you have no secrets and maybe in deep trouble. You got to start behaving.

ATS======ORH======

Replied by Janet
(In Indiana)
05/30/2017

ORH I am looking at the possibility of buying the PEMF system. I have not read Body Electric yet. You mention a book you are reading. If you mentioned the title I may have overlooked it. From $70 to $9000. I am having trouble even understanding the essential difference.
Our daughters ankle injury is my focus. Her Dr. refers to is as a highly unusual break. He feels that she has healed as much as she can. I know we can break some boundries he is not even contemplating. Since the night of her accident the most he has had to offer is predicting arthritis. Then announcing he had predicted the arthritis and confirming he is correct that she has arthritis.

We have brought her beyond his expectations yet I feel we can go further. Fighting the mycoplasma infection that Ted considers the cause of the cartilage breakdown in arthritis. I cannot think of anyway to afford a $9000 device, not saying it would be possibly worth it.

I am hoping you can provide some more information from your experience.

I honestly do not even know how to formulate the correct question. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you may have. Janet

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile , Tn)
05/31/2017

JANET,,,,,,,,,,, the guy who wrote the book, PEMF, is a a Ga Tech guy, so we have things in common. He was just about 30 years behind me. He's a Redneck like me, so you can understand his book. I do think you should read his book before you buy and also research reviews. Reviews usually tell me more than an article because either you are happy or have the ass and both express it in terms that all can relate to.

As I do the shotgun approach, I never know which is doing the solving. I will tell you this. Today, I got my second ozone and blood platelet shot from the integrative doctor down in Ringgold, Ga. He uses a PEMF system to address various ails of his patients. He is no dummy.

We are not wealthy, but spend money on health toys instead of driving two new vehicles full time. My truck is 19 years old and hopefully it will get me out.

As far as results are concerned, my constant back pain is gone. If I spend 3 hours on a hoe, then it is back as it was when a youngster. I cured my poison ivy in two days instead of two weeks. My wife is sleeping better. Oh yeah, the PEMF devices do address bone healing, for certain.

Our system did not cost $9000 but $6000. I did not bust my fanny to leave money to the kids. I got them educated and they can save like we did.

Out of spit and wish you well. ====ORH===

Replied by Janet
(In)
06/01/2017

ORH. Thank You!

Ken and I are discussing this now. Common sense prevails where doctors leave off. Laura is locked into her doctor by insurance. So anything we can do to further her progress is what I am committed to.

Looking at it as an investment in our future. Health wise we are not getting younger.

Your insight is invaluable. Thanks again. Janet


Magnets

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Posted by Alex (Thessaloniki, Greece) on 05/14/2018
★★★★☆

I should have put five stars but I didn't have much time to experiment about the truth of magnet therapy. My bracelet with small magnets failed completely to to any good to my acute back pain but after reading this

https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/magnet-therapy2.html

I decided to put a very strong magnet about 1cm in diameter exactly where the root of my problem was in my back. I was careful with the polarity. Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) explains it very well in page one of my above link. I had already a biomagnetic bracelet so the pole that repelled the magnets on the bracelet was the bio-North. In the first ten minute of application I felt some instances of big pain as an electric shock exactly at the problematic area but after a while there was a permanent and noticeable reduce in pain and tension in the muscle. I decided to wear it for hours. I had stabilized the strong neodymium magnet on my back with tape for injuries. The funny thing is that I felt some leftover pain at the other side of my lower back (the left one), the area which was far away from the magnet but also affected with pain and muscle spasm. I will definetly buy some strong neodymium magnets (>=1000 gauss) and self-experiment again.


Magnets
Posted by Chu (Edmond, Oklahoma) on 05/31/2008
★★★★★

i have found that sleeping with magnets applied to my back completely eliminates my back pain, i was having pain in my back for two weeks so i researched and read that magnets may help, it took about on week but the pain was completely gone, it came back once more after i strained my back again and the same remedy worked again, i was able to find a back magnet called norso on ebay for around $10.

Replied by Bustherh
(Auburn, Maine, Usa)
05/08/2012
★☆☆☆☆

Magnets may work for some people but I just have to add that I have been sleeping on a magnetic mat for a couple of months now which makes the bed a little more bearable just because the bed was too soft, but other than that it has done nothing for my back pain. Thank god I did not pay for it, this particular mat costs $800.


Mattress

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Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 08/17/2011

This may seem a silly question but I think that my back pains are due to a mattress that doesn't suit my needs. My husband has back pains as well. Ok, the solution, you would say, would be to go and buy a new one. That is exactly what we did. We asked the guy in the shop to come and look at what we had, which was quite new, and advise us on what to get. My husband was against buy memory foam again but I forgot that part while trying several mattresses and guess what, we ended up buy one but twice as expensive. And we have the same pain especially if we lie a long time on our backs.

My question is maybe not as silly as it sounds because what do you do, you go to the shop, lie on each mattress for a few minutes, what do you know about them? Nothing really...... So I am at a loss here! We do need a new mattress but how should we decide what to buy?

Replied by Clarity
(Los Angeles, California, Usa)
08/17/2011

Francesca... Re. Back pain. My husband and I both suffered from back pain, purchased 2 mattresses of hi quality, expensive and promply returned it. Purchased the 3rd. Mattress from a well known swedish manufacture called T_mpurP_tic. Well!!! I must tell you, it's been 3 years and no pain. We love it and recommend it highly. It is the most expensive mattress on the market her in US. But it's worth it. Sou Brasileira, vivo em Los Angeles.

C.

Replied by Francisca
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
08/18/2011

Olá Clarity, eu sou 1/4 brasileira, o meu avô era da Bahia. The problem here is that you can't give back a mattress. I suppose you are talking about Tempura but that is I think that this memory foam is although it is another brand. I really don't know what to do.... I do get a lot better during the day so it must be the mattress. And if I lie on the recliners outside by the pool I never have any kind of back pain. Unfortunately I always forget to check when I am in a hotel meaning probably that I don't have pain.

Replied by Tricia
(Ireland)
08/19/2011
84 posts
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Two things worth spending money on are a good pair of shoes and a mattress. If you're not in one you're in the other. But you cannot tell, with either item, as to whether they will do you damage after a couple of hours use. Five minutes in the shop is not the same as eight hours solid use. I think most women will have a number of pairs of shoes in the wardrobe that cannot be worn for long.

One of the following may be worth trying. If the mattress is too hard, an upholsterer(furniture maker) would sell you a thin piece of foam that cold be laid on top of the mattress and under the sheet. This foam is used in different thicknesses by manufacturers.

If the bed is too soft - a piece of plywood or any other soft wood laid between the mattress and the bed base can be helpful. This certainly helped my Mom when she had a bad back. After about a year she felt able to remove it when she bought a new different mattress but put it back again a short time later as the new one brought back the old pains.


McKenzie Method

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Posted by Anonymous (Wroclaw, Dolnoslaskie, Poland) on 02/04/2012
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I healed my tailbone pain (or was it pain of the disk between the tailbone and spine) with McKenzie method, but this exercize is also popular in many systems of stretching. You lie on your belly, place your palms on the floor or bed at the level of your head, and you rise your body using your hands. You will feel lower back area straightening. You can adjust your hands to reach painful spot precisely.

If it's too strong for you, start lightly. After some practice you can add one move to strenghten this - when you are in upmost position, breath air out of your stomach and lungs.

Do it 10 times every 2 hours for 2 weeks, than allow some time for regeneration.



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