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04/04/2014: Mary from New York, Ny: "Glutathione is found in very high concentrations in the lens of the eye and plays a vital role in keeping the lens healthy. Specifically, glutathione functions as an antioxidant, maintains the structure of the lens proteins, acts in various enzyme systems, and participates in amino acid and mineral transport. Glutathione levels are diminished in virtually all forms of cataracts. To raise glutathione levels, eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables. Fruits and vegetables containing the most glutathione per serving include asparagus, peppers, carrots, onion, broccoli, avocados, squash, spinach, garlic, tomatoes, grapefruit, apples, oranges, peaches bananas and melon. The glutathione content in these foods is substantially higher than in their cooked counterparts. Dr. Murray has found that not only can the progression of cataract formation be stopped, but it can even be reversed in the early stages. However, significant reversal of well-developed cataracts does not appear possible at this time. In cases of marked vision impairment, cataract removal and lens implant may be the only alternative. As with most diseases, prevention or treatment at an early stage is most effective. Here is the website with the information http://doctormurray.com/health-conditions/cataracts/"

EC: There are more posts from Jack with more details, but here is Jack's original post.

?05/15/2006: Jack from Toledo, OH: "here's the formula i used for curing a bad case of emphysema for "willard booth" of marion ark 12 yrs ago. into a gallon pot, put the seed pods (tops) of 6 "great mullein" plant, bring to a boil, add 3 tbls of powered "lobelia", and also "hyssop" 1 oz of white apple cider vinegar, 2 tbls of powdered cayenne red pepper. keep boiling until about a pint of water has boiled off, (it will turn dark or reddish like coffee). let cool until you can strain (i used a nylon stocking). sweeten with sugar or honey to taste this will keep in frig for a week or more ( look up "great mullein" and you'll be surprised at what all it can do!). hyssop and lobelia are great expectorants!! i had willard take 3 pop bottle caps a day but you can take more it won' t hurt you, you can also use a heating pad on chest and do a number of "vigorous exhales" for about 15 minutes after taking .... good luck and god bless..."

04/04/2014: Willowmopper from Virginia, US: "Good evening! I have printed your recipe. Do you have any advise for those who have the mullen, lobella, and hyssop in drop form?

Thanks,

Michelle"

04/04/2014: Kilee from Ontario, Canada: "Mr Ree from Usa Thank for your suggestion that I try licorice extract for shingles. I am over four months into this , left with the horrible scarring and the nerve pain that just goes on and on. Do you think the licorice extract will still work this late in? If you think so , I will definitely give it a try. thank you , Kilee"

04/04/2014: Mr. Ree from Usa: "For $8.95 it's certainly worth a try...I have always recommended "Natures Answer.' I have not tried other licorice extract...I got rid of my shingles in 3 days about 1 1/2 months after it surfaced...Then beat it twice more when it hit the same day...In one hour! I still have the bottle a couple of years later and it's 1/2 full."

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Kilee,

Re Shingles

You might also consider this: The ongoing nerve pain might be that the virus is still working. That is the virus has not been killed. Look under the Shingles (Ailment Section) on Earth Clinic and you'll see numerous remedies to deal with Shingles.

I have a post there and relate my experience with Shingles. I used a combo of Cayenne and Vitamin E and DMSO and Colloidal Silver as a salve. The CS and Cayenne were used to kill the virus; the E to make sure the Cayenne did not burn the skin and of course the DMSO was the carrier. And it too is anti viral.

Next, consider the possibility that the virus has damaged the nerves. So even if you do kill the virus, some shingles cases continue to hurt because of nerve damage. To help with nerve healing I use "AEP" and it's called Calcium AEP. (NOT just calcium.) The AEP is what you are after. Google; nutrition review calcium AEP. Great article. Dr Robert Adkins used it as primary item in treating his MS patients."

04/02/2014: Ed2010 from Canada: "The enzyme of papaya is papain not pepsin. Papain is a protein digesting enzyme. And papaya incerases digestion by stimulating the pancreas, Rich in Vitamin A. Dry papaya chunks are used as meat tenderizer by chefs.

Papaya is a Heat Producing fruit. Traditional varieties are more sweet than the hybrid varieties. Hybrids and GMO's have changed the medicinal properties of many foods.

Good Health"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Thanks for the excellent explanation that encouraged me to try the remedy. I feel better. All us ordinary folk here in Rocky Mountain High think you are an enlightened knowledgeable wise man."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mike, my friend;

Re Papaya....

Tonight I ate a "hot" soup prepared by my Indian friend from Malaysia for my wife and me. "Hot" as in spicy. Normally, that kind of hot would cause some skin irritation, but having little will power in culinary matters, I consumed a big bowl anyway. And to counter the inevitable irritation, a few minutes later, I ate three or four bites of Papaya, cool and soothing. Now, 40 minutes later, I feel no irritation at all and by now I certainly would have. So....another Papaya story.

And thank you for the compliment about my standing among the "illuminati" at "Rocky Mountain High"!!!!

YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Ed from Canada;

Re Papaya enzyme...

Thank you so much for the correction; "Papain" is the dominate enzyme.

Another experiment with Papaya:

Tonight I used some chopped up Papaya in a mix of ice cream (butter pecan) and Greek yogurt...then refroze. Turned out to be a nice "ad lib" concoction. Creamier than normal ice cream and the Papaya didn't overpower the taste of either the yogurt or the ice cream. And the real purpose of the Papaya was to make the rich creamy desert digestible...so I am not "hit" with an attack of reflux. We'll see. If I had not put Papaya with such a cream/milk based mix...unless I downed a lot of ACV before bed...reflux would be likely.

So I continue to test the limits of Papaya in digestive matters. I didn't eat the black seeds tonight so I am wondering whether that will influence the "test." I intentionally won't take ACV this evening just to push the "digestive" envelope.

Now some "critic" may suggest that I'm doing this "ice cream test" as a ploy, a mere excuse to eat ice cream.

How could such a hypothetical critic, such as my wife, think such a thing.

I am wanting to see the digestive limits of Papaya. And that is all.

However, I may have to test the Papaya digestive limits with various ice cream flavors...chocolate (with Papaya), strawberry (with Papaya) etc.

Just as a test, mind you.

For purely scientific purposes.

Yes, I am willing to sacrifice myself in such a "test"... for all to know the benefits. Will report back the results six pounds from now...ah....six days from now.

Big Dave from Fountain Inn"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Wow, your sacrifice for the sake of science and humanity will be remembered and appreciated by many!

Let me know if you find that Papaya makes chocolate chip mint ice cream more digestible.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~"

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mama to Many;

Re Papaya and Ice Cream...

I'd forgotten about Chocolate Chip Mint Ice Cream!!! That most certainly will be added to the list. So far, with the CCMIC, I've got seven to test.

Wow. This is hard work."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mama to Many and anyone interested in the Papaya experiments;

Update; I continue to attempt dietary suicide by consuming ALLLL the foods that I KNOW will kill me.

Well, perhaps this is hyperbolae. "Exaggeration for the sake of effect"...otherwise known as a "lie" is OK if it has literary value. So says some philosopher of ethics I read one time. Can't recall who. But some philosopher must have said it at some point in time because philosophers say most everything.

Back to the point: Certain foods will cause me terrific problems; too much creamy stuff, too much coffee and red meat and for SURE; Reflux. I mean for sure.

ANY salsa and for sure, skin irritation is immediate; especially back of scalp...and burning eyes.

That scalp condition has been a reaction since I was a child and the reflux developed ten years ago.

Well, I have indulged; And my wife, intrigued at my new attempt at such an "adventurous" life style, her elbow on kitchen counter, head in palm of her hand just gazing at me as I stuff chip after chip laden with hot salsa into my burning mouth.

"What?" I ask as bits of salsa fall over my reddened lip.

"Just watching. And waiting. I have the phone ready to call 911."

"Very funny." I gulp down the twentieth chip. I choke a bit but recover.

"Push that bowl of Papaya and Mango over here. You're not getting the insurance money that easily, love. Watch this."

And with that, I down eight soothing...cooling spoonfuls of the blend of one Papaya and three much smaller Mangos, blended and then strained to make a thick, beautiful orange/yellow "soup." I do not dilute; just using a spoon I consume letting the mild, mellow liquid soak into my mouth before swallowing.

"There. Saved."

"We'll see." And she continued to stare at me.

I neither died NOR broke out in the slightest rash.

And as a further "update" I tried to induce Reflux by downing a huge container of Coffee ice cream. ALL for the sake of science; followed by Papaya again. (Mama to Many...you alone seem to understand the sacrifice involved ... bless you.)

No Reflux. Yet.

There has to be some point of excess that the Papaya can't overcome and I am determined, for the sake of science, to find THAT POINT.

AND; I have ONLY gained two pounds in this .... this experiment... thus far.

I am only doing this for you...dear EC readers. Testing the limits..." boldly going where no man has gone before..." Some philosopher said that too. Plato I do believe. Maybe Wittgenstein. The Later Wittgenstein.

And if that point...which I spoke of is reached...over some bowl of forbidden flavors, don't be surprised if my wife, newly attired in the finest of apparel, holds a series of "appreciation" events at a few selected sites...

And don't feel sorry for her. She'll be traveling around the globe for a while; overcoming her grief and looking for new "remedies" out of love and respect for her deceased husband; who died while looking for solutions to ailments...only trying to help those hurting."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Papaya make my desiccated liver taste better."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mike 62;

Re Desiccated Liver plus Papaya...

Mike...you just a star!

Wow...who would have thunk...Desiccated Liver- and Papaya making it taste better!

The only way to improve even that would be to make it into an ice cream.

We'd call it....

"Mike 62 Desiccated Liver Papaya Ice Cream Explosion"...

But hold on...before I rev up on the marketing campaign...you operate off very strict dietary rules if I recall. Does ice cream fit within those bounds? Maybe we use Almond Milk."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: I am not a perfectionist. I don't eat perfectly all the time. You could try Mike's mountain mush. Three of the ingredients are dairy. Mix papaya, non denatured whey, colostrum, and sour cream together. This would taste like yogurt because of the sour cream."

04/11/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver

What is dessicated Liver? I don't eat red meat .. don't like the taste of it.

So you eat 80 percent raw ... I try that but its pretty challenging but do the best I can..what do you eat cooked?"

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...My congratulations to you on your experiment with papaya. A brave man indeed!!

However, I've got to say that I think that papaya had very little to do with your ability to eat those bad foods without problems. I'll try and explain why.

First, have a look at this link which is something I've quickly written that helps to explain how stomach acid and duodenal digestion or Main Stage Digestion are so crucially linked:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6bKkuZlS7-Q_-bTJk1sU_cvNRSQr8_WM91FJ7jIvR4/edit?usp=sharing

What saved your bacon was probably the lime juice in the salsa -- which raised your low stomach acid and triggered all your proper enzymes in the duodenum for main stage digestion -- such amylase, lipase, lactase, tripsin etc.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

* Papaya contains papain -- which can only digest proteins.

* So how was your digestive system or papaya able to successfully digest corn chips(a carbohydrate) without problems ?

* How could your papaya digest coffee ice cream without problems(contains mainly lactose, fats and sugars -- not protein).

The only explanation must be that the acidic lime juice in the salsa was perhaps what raised your stomach acid levels to proper strength again which, via a hormone, then successfully triggered the secretion of all the proper duodenal enzymes and digestion without problems.

You could perhaps achieve exactly the same result by just taking two tablespoons of vinegar or ACV with meals-- which would also raise your pH stomach acidity to proper levels again -- thus successfully triggering secretion of your alkaline pancreatic juices and enzymes thus enabling proper digestion. But lime juice, ACV and vinegar are not the cure -- it only treats the symptoms.

To restore your stomach acid(HCl) to normal, you will have to supplement sources of chlorides to restore your gastric HCL. That's why taking Betaine HCl, Magnesium Chloride(Mag Oil), Sea Salt, Iodine, pancreatin, B complex etc helps to restore stomach HCl and digestion to normal.

The other reason for acid intestines can also be because of lack of bicarbs in the body and in the pancreatic juices. In such cases where the bicarbs from the pancreatic juices are insufficient and cannot neutralize stomach chyme, it may also advisable to perhaps supplement baking soda and water about an hour after meals(when the stomach has finished working) to ensure that proper alkaline to neutral digestion in the duodenum is also achieved for proper digestion to occur."

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...Just to also make clear that I am all for nutrients like papaya and dessicated liver. I've been taking them both for years. I usually take the papaya every morning in a smoothie mixed with other fruits like graviola(paw-paw), mangoes, oranges, grapes -- any fruit that's in season. This provides alot of the vitamins and fibre I need because I don't usually eat enough vegetables in my diet. Papaya clears out all the organic protein debris in the blood and seems to also help regulate my bowel movements every day.

The dessicated liver is also a godsend -- best multivit around -- it contains all the same vits and minerals as spirulina but is in a much more bio-available and cheaper form. Easily bought at any health or muscle shop."

04/12/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Re; Your theory as to Papaya enzymes

Greetings:

Your theory that the citric acid in the Salsa which helped with digestion and not the Papain in the Papaya was a good one. But I just checked the label on the Salsa and there is no citric acid in it (extra lemon juice). There could be natural citric acid in the Tomato but it is the Tomato/Chili that I am VERY allergic to. And so any "citric acid" contained in them has never helped before.

You rightly ask and rightly question; How is it that the Papain (which digests protein) can help with Corn and ice cream digestion?

And THAT is just what has intrigued me. Obviously more is going on than protein digestion provided by the Papaya. Are other enzymes at work? Is the Papain relieving the enzyme production in my own body so that OTHER enzymes are more easily produced that are doing a better job digesting?

And, I think the alkalizing effect could be extraordinarily strong. So the acid in the Salsa/tomato products/ chili etc. is greatly minimized by the Papaya. THAT may not be an enzyme issue.

Now, back to protein; A cup of milk has 8 grams of protein. Ditto on ice cream. And the sugar seems to make my Reflux worse. But if I eat a red meat meal at night and eat ice cream too, then by 3 am, I'm awake with a "grinding" in my stomach OR...WORSE...reflux.

This is why I'm my own guinea pig. And I have asked if anyone else has results from Papaya consumption that could lend some insight to this discussion.

Thank you Bill for weighing in.

You and Ted are just the best.

Your student,

dave"

04/12/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: A handful of Indians were starving during a cold winter while being chased by the cavalry. Eventually they shot an elk. The first thing they did was eat the liver raw. Rats fed raw liver swam eight times longer because of special enzymes. Eskimos eat liver and blubber rare. Vitamin A is in the liver and Vitamin D is in the blubber. They knew to eat them in the proper ratio before scientific investigation. I eat Dave's Denver Delight. Tomato paste and, because of you, papaya are added to improve flavor."

04/12/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Your detailed observations are fascinating and informative. I am looking forward to risking some ice cream soon, when I can get a papaya in hand, that is. Thank you for your continued work for science and humanity! Your sacrifice will benefit many!

~Mama to Many~

P.S. My husband confirms that it is Star Trek that coined (or perhaps popularized?) the phrase, "to go boldly where no man has gone before." :)"

04/04/2014: Ladymars from Florida, Us: "Hi, you might want to check out the remedies listed under 'Varicose Veins' on this website. Good luck!"

04/05/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Embarassed...Using Nattokinase or Serrapeptase, which are protein digesting enzymes, will act to dissolve the dead organic fibrin build up in the capillaries that generally causes the varicose veins problem.

As additional support you should also take niacin or slow release niacin(no flush niacin -- also called Inositol Hexanicotinate). The purpose of the niacin protocol is to change and thin the blood safely. It also prevents blood lipoproteins becoming too sticky, which causes the blockages at the extremeties of the body. Niacin also opens up the blood vessels and capillaries, which helps to allow the serrepeptase or nattokinase to be delivered more efficiently to the extremeties (hands and feet) where it is needed most without problems.

If you can, also take a strong liquid kelp extract. Kelp contains iodine which acts to make fats/proteins more soluble for easier removal by the liver. Thus excessive fats/proteins in the blood are actively reduced, also helping to eliminate another reason for the varicose vein problem.

Supplement Brewer's Yeast.

Dosages:

Serrapeptase or Nattokinase(as advised on the bottle). Always take these supplements outside mealtimes because you want them to act in the blood.

Liquid Kelp Extract -- As advised on the bottle. The liquid kelp will help you in many other ways as well -- too numerous to mention.

Inositol Hexanicotinate(slow release form) -- 1500 mgs twice a day at meals. If you prefer to take niacin (cheaper flush form) then the per diem dose is lower because of the flush -- 500 mgs twice a day taken at mealtimes.

Brewer's Yeast -- One tablespoon once a day with water at breakfast. Brewer's Yeast contains all the B Vitamins (except B12). All the B vitamins depend on each other, which is why taking brewer's Yeast will naturally add to the effectiveness of the niacin."

04/05/2014: Embarrased from Usa: "Thank you so much Bill for your helpful information. I am certainly going to try your recommendations and hope to report back with success!"

04/03/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear She,

It is vexing to try remedy after remedy and not get cured!

I would try some things internally. It always surprises me when this works so well for skin issues, but it has for us. Try 1 teaspoon (or 4 capsules) of Turmeric three times a day. (Always use plenty of water to avoid constipation. (Constipation, by the way, can be related to skin rashes.)

I would also try three capsules of Borage Oil once or twice a day. (The kind with at least 1000 mg per capsule.)

You can take baking soda baths, also. 1-2 cups of baking soda in a warm bath 3-6 times a week.

Keep only 100% cotton next to the skin. You might also hand wash clothing that comes in contact with the rash in just baking soda or a natural castille soap, and be sure to rinse them well.

I once had a rash on my arm for a year. I tried countless remedies. Borage oil ended up being my solution. It was shocking to me that just one thing internally was my solution.

I hope you find your solution soon. Please let us know what you find out!

~Mama to Many~"

04/03/2014: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe: "She, have you checked your skin's reaction to your detergent? Body areas that are tightly covered, and/or sweat areas, might be more affected than other places."

04/05/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi She from Virginia...The probable reason that topical remedies like coconut oil, tea tree oil etc didn't work is mainly because these oils are not so well absorbed into the subdermal layers of the skin.

Here's a remedy that should work for subdermal rash problems.

You will need:

99% DMSO (DimethylSulfoxide solution)

3% Hydrogen Peroxide

Borax (20 Mule team Borax is fine to use -unperfumed and not scented)

Aloe Vera Oil or Gel.

The remedy:

To a container(such as a glass saucer) add:

9 teaspoons of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide

1 teaspoon DMSO

1/16 tspn of Borax (250 mgs approx)

Mix all these ingredients into solution which eventually gives you a solution approximately containing 3% HP, 10% DMSO with a small amount of Borax. This solution will kill a wide variety of bacteria, fungus, viruses and mycoplasma etc within the sub-epidermal layers of the skin.

Using cotton wool, dab the fungal areas with this solution 3 times a day. 20 mins after application apply aloe vera gel or oil(which also kills pathogens and helps protect the skin as well).

Make sure to always apply this solution last thing at night(when you are not wearing your bra). Wash your bras in borax to get rid of possible fungal contamination.

For myself, I've found the above remedy to be very effective against topical and subdermal rash problems because it kills fungus, viruses, bacteria, mycoplasma etc very quickly within the skin itself (not just topically).

The secret to this remedy is the DMSO -- which has the ability to carry or pull other nutrients (that are not normally so well absorbed into the subdermal layers) through the skin and even into the blood. None of the above nutrients, even if they are carried into the blood, will cause you harm in the dosages advised.

And if this remedy does not work, as Mama to Many has already suggested, then you probably have an internal or systemic fungal/bacterial infection in your blood which will require a different internal protocol to get rid of it. In other words that your topical fungal rash problem may be just a symptom of a deeper systemic fungal issue in your blood."

04/06/2014: She from Virginia, United States: "Thanks for all the advice!! I will certainly try them all. I am getting a cotton bra and I only wash my clothes with baking soda and rinse them twice.I take turmeric now for inflammation, but will increase my dosage. At first I thought this was my body's way of getting rid of toxins. But I'm not so sure.

I'll let you know how it goes!! Thank you!!"

01/10/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Denise...Supplementing Turpentine has the effect of cleansing the bowels and purifying the blood. I have never read any research where turpentine has ever caused damage to nerves. The neuropathy problem that you mention is usually normally caused by the Hepatitis C virus.

The symptoms you might experience are a wooziness and drowsiness when you take too much turpentine because turpentine also has a sedative effect. Turpentine also can have a laxative effect, but I have only ever experienced a slight loosening of the stools when I took 2 tspns of turpentine in one go(double the normal dose). And if there is any ongoing disease in the blood or bowels, such as Hepatitis C, then you may well get a Herx or die-off reaction as well.

You can also take turpentine baths if you wish. Add one or two small shot glasses of turpentine into the bath and stay in the bath for about 1/2 hour. The iso-penenes in turpentine, the main beneficial ingredients, are also easily absorbed through the skin.

For interests sake, and to allay any fears, medical doctors commonly used and recommended internal teaspoon dosages of turpentine in the past.

Here are some examples of older turpentine usage and dosages:

The Physiomedical Dispensatory 1869 - Turpentine Usage

The US Dispensatory 1918 - Turpentine Properties

British Pharmaceutical Codex -- Turpentine"

01/12/2014: Denise from Seattle: "Hello Bill from the Phillipines, You said in a reply that it was likely my hep-c that caused my peripheral neuropathy...I've been treating my peripheral neuropathy with everything on this site and more with no results...So the safe assumption is I'm going at it all wrong...I should be attacking the source which is the hep-c...Are we in agreement with this...Thank you much.."

01/12/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Denise...Generally, nueropathy problems are fairly commonplace with Hepatitis C patients. This is called Cryoglobulinemia and results from the immune system cryoglubulins "globbing" in the blood vessels and causing inflammation affecting the nerves.

Regarding your more recent post, it is unfortunate that you have had such a reaction to the turpentine from taking such small drop dosages. Turpentine also has mild diuretic action, which means that it expels water and minerals from the body. Normally this does not cause problems(from my own experience), but if your main electrolytes(calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium) are out of balance then cramping in the body will occur. Lack of magnesium and/or potassium in the body are favourites for causing cramp.

Turpentine is also a wide-action pathogen killer. When pathogens are killed in high numbers then poisons will be released from the destroyed pathogens that can also give added or increased symptoms which can be severe. This is called the Herx effect. Furthermore, if your liver is weak or insufficient and has difficulty clearing these poisons then this may also give other added symptoms.

I must also add that turpentine acts to expel xenobiotics -- it will remove any synthetic drug or poison which the body does not recognize. This would also put a strain on the liver. I have no idea whether you are taking synthetic ribovarin or interferon, but turpentine may well act to also expel them from the body. So, if you are also taking these drugs, then you should not be taking the turpentine.

Perhaps you should investigate Oscar's BHT Remedy or Ted's Lysine, Threonine and Vitamin C remedies for Hepatitis C. These options should not generally give you such severe problems."

01/12/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Bill, you really got me confused now. I'm taking 2 prescription drugs while on my anti-candida protocol with the turpentine. Are you now saying that people on drugs/xenobiotics shouldn't be taking turpentine? Maybe I'm not full getting what you're saying.

Please clear this up for me. If this is the case, then no wonder my detox symptoms were going so bad on me. Maybe I'm thinking wrong though! Thanks!"

01/13/2014: Denise from Seattle: "I had a test for cryogobulins 2 months ago and everything was fine according to my PCP...He said I have no inflamation...I take 900 mgs magnesium malate a day and many other supplements..The brand name is Homco gum turpentine....I am currently taking a gram of Vit c an hour to flush out the turp. I take NO drugs at all. I read on the web that the herx effect is bogus...It was made up by dr'd to cover themselves when a person gets a reaction to a drug they prescribes...Google it and see...Also I am not a diabetic...I got hep-c from a car accident in 1969 and had a blood transfusion of one unit..Everything was fine until they discovered I had hep-c in 2003 and they talked me into a liver biopsy..I later found out that my enzymes were 35 and 41..Then after the biopsy my enzymes shot up to mid 300 range...and the trouble began......Someone told me "They woke up the virus.""

01/13/2014: Denise from Seattle: "Forgot...I'm also taking 1000 mgs of lysine five hours in a row every day to get back to where I was. NO ibuprophen as it raises my enzymes...Even 200 mgs will raise them...Ted's remedy.."

01/13/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Tony....Turpentine/Kerosene both act as a diuretic and they expel xenobiotics. They generally function to cleanse the intestines and purify the blood.

Here are some testimonials from Eastern Europe on the use of Kerosene and what it helps to cure (including high blood pressure):

Kerosene Testimonials

Contra-indications between natural nutrients and drugs is always a problem. But whereas natural remedies tend to treat the core reasons for disease, drugs for chronic diseases are generally always palliative -- they only ever treat the symptoms.

What I'm saying here is that although these medical drugs might make you feel better, they do not treat the core reasons for you problems -- especially for heart disease and depression. So, if you continue to use these drugs, then further down the timeline these conditions are bound to get worse(because drugs do not treat the core reason -- they do not cure) and you will have to buy more and more drugs which fits the business profit model of the drugs companies perfectly.

In terms of drugs for serious chronic diseases, since a cure is generally out of the picture, we are not really patients -- we are just consumers. "

01/13/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Bill for the explanation. I thought you were originally saying that turpentine wasn't supposed to be taken at all with drugs. I already understood how bad drugs are for the body & they don't provide a cure. My main concern was mixing the turpentine with drugs & thinking it would create a possible fatal reaction. Thanks & God Bless!"

04/04/2014: Josh1875 from Ft Worth, Texas: "I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why everytime I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable"

04/04/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Josh1875...A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water(and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.

Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.

Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research."

01/22/2010: Jhopkins from Chapel Hill, Tn Usa: "I took 4 days off of my thyroid medication and started to have great energy...no nap needed. When I started taking my medication, 2 days later, I was extremely exhausted, even worse today. I will be getting my blood tested on Monday because I cannot deal with being this tired. I will update as soon as I know the results. And by the way, I am not sure how everyone is measuring their coconut oil, but I am measuring with an actual measuring Tbsp, not a spoon and calling it tablespoon. If I were to measure by using a regular spoon, I would probably be closer to 2 Tbsp."

01/31/2010: Jhopkins from Chapel Hill, Tn: "Update: I am actually in the "normal" range right now according to my blood work. My husband made a comment that ever since i switched from Armour to Levo, he has seen a huge decrease in my energy. I didn't even link the 2! Darn FDA!

I have been doing a ton of research this weekend and will be starting supplements and changing eating habits. I have been reading about bromine in the foods we eat, primarily breads, pastas, pizza dough, etc. This is exactly what I eat all the time. Bromine (or was it Bromide, I don't remember exactly) interferes with iodine. So in addition to eliminating these foods and sugar (oy, going to be hard) I am going to get a kelp supplement (iodine), Vitamin A, Omega-3. I have already been using Vitamin C and B-complex.

I am current day 6 off my levo and actually feeling a great deal of energy. I read somewhere that having these hormone replacements dumbs down your real hormone, thyroid...into atrophy. Does anyone have any information/research on this? I haven't been on thyroid meds quite 5 years yet and even then have been on levo, then armour for 2.5 years, and back on to levo. i wish i could have my armour back though...but maybe not if it is going to make my thyroid atrophy.

Also, does anyone know how to start the "healing" process for your adrenals? Since I am more prone to the thyroid issue due to genetics, I think I really pressed my luck stressing in college a few years ago. But I really do believe my cells can heal."

02/08/2010: Sangeetha from Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands: "Hi Jhopkins

I have been hypothyroid for nearly 15 years now and have been on Eltroxin. In May 2009, I read about coconut oil and started with 1 tbsp (proper measuring tbsp) and increased it to 3 tbsps a day. I too had diarrea in the beginning and noticed that I get it if I had the EVCO too close to my meals. I then started giving a gap of 20-30 minutes before or after food and that problem was solved.

I checked my thyroid in Oct 2009 and my medication was reduced fom 100 mcg to 75 mcg as the the thyroid had gotten better. I checked my thyroid again after 6 weeks but there was no further improvement and my dosage remained at 75 mcg. I skipped the EVCO when I went away for a week during Christmas vacation.

From the past 3 weeks I have been feeling heavier and have put on a big of weight, though I have not changed my eating habits. This makes me wonder if my thyroid has gone bad and if I need to go back on 100 mcg of Eltroxin. I have stopped the EVCO for the last couple of days but might just have 1-2 tbsp a day as that does give me the energy.

I wonder if all what is said about EVCO curing hypothyroid is actually a myth as, although it helped me in the beginning to reduce the medication, it didn't help any further even when I continued to take 3 tbsp every day.

I would be doing the blood test again tomorrow for my hypothyroid and might have to go backt o 100 mcg.

What has been your experience with EVCO?"

02/09/2010: Sangeetha from Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands: "Hi DJ

Can you please elaborate on Kelp. What is it and how and how often do you take it. Do you not take any medication for thyroid?"

04/04/2014: Sasha from Seattle, WA: "The whole idea of being " within range" idea is old idea that no longer applies. Since most doctors got smart Many people are having the effects of hypothyroidism without being " within range". You can be on the verge of hypothyroidism and having full blown symptoms that can hospitalize you . I got smart and went to a Naturopathic doctor. I take 1 tsp organic virgin coconut oil harvested from fresh coconuts and lugols iodine and as is well!"

04/02/2014: Ed2010 from Canada: "The enzyme of papaya is papain not pepsin. Papain is a protein digesting enzyme. And papaya incerases digestion by stimulating the pancreas, Rich in Vitamin A. Dry papaya chunks are used as meat tenderizer by chefs.

Papaya is a Heat Producing fruit. Traditional varieties are more sweet than the hybrid varieties. Hybrids and GMO's have changed the medicinal properties of many foods.

Good Health"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Thanks for the excellent explanation that encouraged me to try the remedy. I feel better. All us ordinary folk here in Rocky Mountain High think you are an enlightened knowledgeable wise man."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mike, my friend;

Re Papaya....

Tonight I ate a "hot" soup prepared by my Indian friend from Malaysia for my wife and me. "Hot" as in spicy. Normally, that kind of hot would cause some skin irritation, but having little will power in culinary matters, I consumed a big bowl anyway. And to counter the inevitable irritation, a few minutes later, I ate three or four bites of Papaya, cool and soothing. Now, 40 minutes later, I feel no irritation at all and by now I certainly would have. So....another Papaya story.

And thank you for the compliment about my standing among the "illuminati" at "Rocky Mountain High"!!!!

YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Ed from Canada;

Re Papaya enzyme...

Thank you so much for the correction; "Papain" is the dominate enzyme.

Another experiment with Papaya:

Tonight I used some chopped up Papaya in a mix of ice cream (butter pecan) and Greek yogurt...then refroze. Turned out to be a nice "ad lib" concoction. Creamier than normal ice cream and the Papaya didn't overpower the taste of either the yogurt or the ice cream. And the real purpose of the Papaya was to make the rich creamy desert digestible...so I am not "hit" with an attack of reflux. We'll see. If I had not put Papaya with such a cream/milk based mix...unless I downed a lot of ACV before bed...reflux would be likely.

So I continue to test the limits of Papaya in digestive matters. I didn't eat the black seeds tonight so I am wondering whether that will influence the "test." I intentionally won't take ACV this evening just to push the "digestive" envelope.

Now some "critic" may suggest that I'm doing this "ice cream test" as a ploy, a mere excuse to eat ice cream.

How could such a hypothetical critic, such as my wife, think such a thing.

I am wanting to see the digestive limits of Papaya. And that is all.

However, I may have to test the Papaya digestive limits with various ice cream flavors...chocolate (with Papaya), strawberry (with Papaya) etc.

Just as a test, mind you.

For purely scientific purposes.

Yes, I am willing to sacrifice myself in such a "test"... for all to know the benefits. Will report back the results six pounds from now...ah....six days from now.

Big Dave from Fountain Inn"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Wow, your sacrifice for the sake of science and humanity will be remembered and appreciated by many!

Let me know if you find that Papaya makes chocolate chip mint ice cream more digestible.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~"

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mama to Many;

Re Papaya and Ice Cream...

I'd forgotten about Chocolate Chip Mint Ice Cream!!! That most certainly will be added to the list. So far, with the CCMIC, I've got seven to test.

Wow. This is hard work."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mama to Many and anyone interested in the Papaya experiments;

Update; I continue to attempt dietary suicide by consuming ALLLL the foods that I KNOW will kill me.

Well, perhaps this is hyperbolae. "Exaggeration for the sake of effect"...otherwise known as a "lie" is OK if it has literary value. So says some philosopher of ethics I read one time. Can't recall who. But some philosopher must have said it at some point in time because philosophers say most everything.

Back to the point: Certain foods will cause me terrific problems; too much creamy stuff, too much coffee and red meat and for SURE; Reflux. I mean for sure.

ANY salsa and for sure, skin irritation is immediate; especially back of scalp...and burning eyes.

That scalp condition has been a reaction since I was a child and the reflux developed ten years ago.

Well, I have indulged; And my wife, intrigued at my new attempt at such an "adventurous" life style, her elbow on kitchen counter, head in palm of her hand just gazing at me as I stuff chip after chip laden with hot salsa into my burning mouth.

"What?" I ask as bits of salsa fall over my reddened lip.

"Just watching. And waiting. I have the phone ready to call 911."

"Very funny." I gulp down the twentieth chip. I choke a bit but recover.

"Push that bowl of Papaya and Mango over here. You're not getting the insurance money that easily, love. Watch this."

And with that, I down eight soothing...cooling spoonfuls of the blend of one Papaya and three much smaller Mangos, blended and then strained to make a thick, beautiful orange/yellow "soup." I do not dilute; just using a spoon I consume letting the mild, mellow liquid soak into my mouth before swallowing.

"There. Saved."

"We'll see." And she continued to stare at me.

I neither died NOR broke out in the slightest rash.

And as a further "update" I tried to induce Reflux by downing a huge container of Coffee ice cream. ALL for the sake of science; followed by Papaya again. (Mama to Many...you alone seem to understand the sacrifice involved ... bless you.)

No Reflux. Yet.

There has to be some point of excess that the Papaya can't overcome and I am determined, for the sake of science, to find THAT POINT.

AND; I have ONLY gained two pounds in this .... this experiment... thus far.

I am only doing this for you...dear EC readers. Testing the limits..." boldly going where no man has gone before..." Some philosopher said that too. Plato I do believe. Maybe Wittgenstein. The Later Wittgenstein.

And if that point...which I spoke of is reached...over some bowl of forbidden flavors, don't be surprised if my wife, newly attired in the finest of apparel, holds a series of "appreciation" events at a few selected sites...

And don't feel sorry for her. She'll be traveling around the globe for a while; overcoming her grief and looking for new "remedies" out of love and respect for her deceased husband; who died while looking for solutions to ailments...only trying to help those hurting."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Papaya make my desiccated liver taste better."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mike 62;

Re Desiccated Liver plus Papaya...

Mike...you just a star!

Wow...who would have thunk...Desiccated Liver- and Papaya making it taste better!

The only way to improve even that would be to make it into an ice cream.

We'd call it....

"Mike 62 Desiccated Liver Papaya Ice Cream Explosion"...

But hold on...before I rev up on the marketing campaign...you operate off very strict dietary rules if I recall. Does ice cream fit within those bounds? Maybe we use Almond Milk."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: I am not a perfectionist. I don't eat perfectly all the time. You could try Mike's mountain mush. Three of the ingredients are dairy. Mix papaya, non denatured whey, colostrum, and sour cream together. This would taste like yogurt because of the sour cream."

04/11/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver

What is dessicated Liver? I don't eat red meat .. don't like the taste of it.

So you eat 80 percent raw ... I try that but its pretty challenging but do the best I can..what do you eat cooked?"

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...My congratulations to you on your experiment with papaya. A brave man indeed!!

However, I've got to say that I think that papaya had very little to do with your ability to eat those bad foods without problems. I'll try and explain why.

First, have a look at this link which is something I've quickly written that helps to explain how stomach acid and duodenal digestion or Main Stage Digestion are so crucially linked:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6bKkuZlS7-Q_-bTJk1sU_cvNRSQr8_WM91FJ7jIvR4/edit?usp=sharing

What saved your bacon was probably the lime juice in the salsa -- which raised your low stomach acid and triggered all your proper enzymes in the duodenum for main stage digestion -- such amylase, lipase, lactase, tripsin etc.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

* Papaya contains papain -- which can only digest proteins.

* So how was your digestive system or papaya able to successfully digest corn chips(a carbohydrate) without problems ?

* How could your papaya digest coffee ice cream without problems(contains mainly lactose, fats and sugars -- not protein).

The only explanation must be that the acidic lime juice in the salsa was perhaps what raised your stomach acid levels to proper strength again which, via a hormone, then successfully triggered the secretion of all the proper duodenal enzymes and digestion without problems.

You could perhaps achieve exactly the same result by just taking two tablespoons of vinegar or ACV with meals-- which would also raise your pH stomach acidity to proper levels again -- thus successfully triggering secretion of your alkaline pancreatic juices and enzymes thus enabling proper digestion. But lime juice, ACV and vinegar are not the cure -- it only treats the symptoms.

To restore your stomach acid(HCl) to normal, you will have to supplement sources of chlorides to restore your gastric HCL. That's why taking Betaine HCl, Magnesium Chloride(Mag Oil), Sea Salt, Iodine, pancreatin, B complex etc helps to restore stomach HCl and digestion to normal.

The other reason for acid intestines can also be because of lack of bicarbs in the body and in the pancreatic juices. In such cases where the bicarbs from the pancreatic juices are insufficient and cannot neutralize stomach chyme, it may also advisable to perhaps supplement baking soda and water about an hour after meals(when the stomach has finished working) to ensure that proper alkaline to neutral digestion in the duodenum is also achieved for proper digestion to occur."

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...Just to also make clear that I am all for nutrients like papaya and dessicated liver. I've been taking them both for years. I usually take the papaya every morning in a smoothie mixed with other fruits like graviola(paw-paw), mangoes, oranges, grapes -- any fruit that's in season. This provides alot of the vitamins and fibre I need because I don't usually eat enough vegetables in my diet. Papaya clears out all the organic protein debris in the blood and seems to also help regulate my bowel movements every day.

The dessicated liver is also a godsend -- best multivit around -- it contains all the same vits and minerals as spirulina but is in a much more bio-available and cheaper form. Easily bought at any health or muscle shop."

04/12/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Re; Your theory as to Papaya enzymes

Greetings:

Your theory that the citric acid in the Salsa which helped with digestion and not the Papain in the Papaya was a good one. But I just checked the label on the Salsa and there is no citric acid in it (extra lemon juice). There could be natural citric acid in the Tomato but it is the Tomato/Chili that I am VERY allergic to. And so any "citric acid" contained in them has never helped before.

You rightly ask and rightly question; How is it that the Papain (which digests protein) can help with Corn and ice cream digestion?

And THAT is just what has intrigued me. Obviously more is going on than protein digestion provided by the Papaya. Are other enzymes at work? Is the Papain relieving the enzyme production in my own body so that OTHER enzymes are more easily produced that are doing a better job digesting?

And, I think the alkalizing effect could be extraordinarily strong. So the acid in the Salsa/tomato products/ chili etc. is greatly minimized by the Papaya. THAT may not be an enzyme issue.

Now, back to protein; A cup of milk has 8 grams of protein. Ditto on ice cream. And the sugar seems to make my Reflux worse. But if I eat a red meat meal at night and eat ice cream too, then by 3 am, I'm awake with a "grinding" in my stomach OR...WORSE...reflux.

This is why I'm my own guinea pig. And I have asked if anyone else has results from Papaya consumption that could lend some insight to this discussion.

Thank you Bill for weighing in.

You and Ted are just the best.

Your student,

dave"

04/12/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: A handful of Indians were starving during a cold winter while being chased by the cavalry. Eventually they shot an elk. The first thing they did was eat the liver raw. Rats fed raw liver swam eight times longer because of special enzymes. Eskimos eat liver and blubber rare. Vitamin A is in the liver and Vitamin D is in the blubber. They knew to eat them in the proper ratio before scientific investigation. I eat Dave's Denver Delight. Tomato paste and, because of you, papaya are added to improve flavor."

04/12/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Your detailed observations are fascinating and informative. I am looking forward to risking some ice cream soon, when I can get a papaya in hand, that is. Thank you for your continued work for science and humanity! Your sacrifice will benefit many!

~Mama to Many~

P.S. My husband confirms that it is Star Trek that coined (or perhaps popularized?) the phrase, "to go boldly where no man has gone before." :)"

04/02/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I have used charcoal (internally and externally) for years. I also am hypothyroid, though currently symptom free. I just am careful not to take charcoal within two hours of supplements that I take for my thyroid, or any supplements. I have never had a problem with it.

I love charcoal...it is inexpensive, easily accessible, safe and effective.

Have a great day!

~Mama to Many~"

04/02/2014: Suseeq from Sydney Australia: "To mama to many -- just curious what have you used charcoal on externally. Thanks"

04/02/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Suseeq,

I have used charcoal in poultices externally on me and my children and most recently on my father...here are some things on which I have used charcoal...

-insect stings (spider bites, tick bites, bee stings) to draw out the poison and reduce pain and swelling.

-skin infections or wounds that look like they might become infected.

-infected finger (at the nail area. I have seen the poultices draw pus out over several overnight applications.)

-staph infection on the skin (in conjunction with other remedies internally.)

-over a surgical site that I was concerned could become infected.

-over the ovary area for cyst pain.

-mixed in water and strained out to use in the eye for pinkeye or in the ear for an ear infection.

-packed into the hoof a a goat with a hoof infection.

-poison ivy.

-eczema.

Charcoal draws out infection and reduces inflammation. It has been effective for our family in so many ways that I never hesitate to use it.

Have a great day!

~Mama to Many~"

04/03/2014: Suseeq from Sydney, Australia: "Tthank you, mama to many, charcoal is a very handy thing to keep on hand. I didn't know it can do so many things. I always keep it but I'll use more from now on, thanks again"

04/04/2014: Lauren from Queens, Ny: "Thank you Mama to many for your response. You are very kind and helpful always. I am curious though.....what did you do to become symptom free from thyroid disease? I have been trying for the past four years to achieve that....I mean I feel like I have taken every vitamin out there, I have drunk every green juice on this earth, I rarely eat junk food and yet I am struggling especially since menopause...any suggestions would greatly help....thank you so much"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I would be happy to share what I have tried for my low thyroid…I hope it will be helpful to you. Of course you may have already tried these things if you have been working on healing for so long. It sure can be vexing to try remedy after remedy and not find the answer.

Currently I am taking 2 droppers of Lugol’s 2% iodine and 200mcg of Selenium. I take Vitamin C, magnesium, vitamin D as needed. I use Celtic Sea Salt daily. For a long time I was using 2 T. of extra virgin coconut oil daily, but I have gotten lax about that. We are on well water so I don’t have to worry about the chlorine or fluoride in the water, which apparently can be an issue for some. I eat a pretty good but far from perfect diet. I eat a lot of whole foods but it is not all organic or anything. We eat out some and I love chocolate. :) I try not to worry so much about what I am consuming when out with friends as it is important to me to be able to enjoy times with friends and family without having to stress about food. I think what I eat cheerfully probably is better for my heath than what I don’t eat fearfully, if that makes sense.

That is the short answer…here is a longer version with some other thoughts. Four years ago I was having unquenchable thirst. 20 cups of water a day and I still had a dry mouth. I went to a doctor who tested me for thyroid issues. My thyroid was off and I started to take a low dose of synthroid. My mouth was not dry any more, but I felt awful and my hair was falling out in handfuls. So, I quit synthroid and tried other things. I know the next time I had bloodwork, maybe 6 months later, my thyroid was still off, though I didn’t feel as bad as I had on synthroid. But a year or two later, my bloodwork showed the thyroid to be working. Apparently you can have normal blood numbers and still have a thyroid issue, so I tend to go by how I feel. If I run out of iodine, my dry mouth symptoms return. But it took me a year or two to get the right amount of iodine for me.

So, I wish that this would work for everyone. It seems to work for some. But it seems that everyone is different and there isn’t a one size fits all solution. Some people need to add dessicated thyroid to what they take. Maybe the stuff I am doing only works because of other stuff I am doing and I am unaware of the connection. I do try to walk regularly. I use Apple Cider Vinegar most days. I took Burdock Root for neuropathy for 6 or 12 months. I take 3 capsules of Borage oil daily to help skin issues. Sometimes I take turmeric. Maybe one of those things helps the other stuff to work for me. And but for the grace of God, none of this would work.

If you don’t mind a bit of rambling, I think health is related to things beyond just our intake. I think what we eat is important, but there are so many things that also affect our health. A few years ago I read about a study that linked heart problems and high cholesterol to stress and not to diet. Thousands of years ago, Solomon said that a cheerful heart is good medicine, but a broken spirit dries up the bones. Richard Wurmbrand was a pastor who was imprisoned under dreadfully inhumane conditions with very little and poor quality food, and yet he went on to live quite a long and productive life. God was sustaining him in spite of a horrendous diet and living conditions.

It puzzles me that my children’s health is not identical. They eat the same food, have the same genes, live in the same house. But they recover differently from sickness. One has had some chronic health problems. So, I have to conclude that there is more to it than just supplements and diet. I know people that have “near perfect” diets that still struggle with health problems. I had a friend who had an amazing diet and was so sweet and cheerful and she died of cancer. There are just some things that are beyond our control. (Lots of things, really! )

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble there a little.

Oh, and I am blessed to not yet be dealing with menopause. That will be a whole new set of things to learn about…I am 47, so I am figuring sooner than later. Anyway, I have read a little bit about Dong Quai and Black Cohosh for menopause symptoms and those will be some things I may try when I get to that point.

Well, keep in touch and let me know how you are doing!

~Mama to Many~"

04/06/2014: Lauren from New York, US: "Hi Mama to many.....Thanks a million for your detailed response. You couldn't be more right when you said that sometimes its not just about the diet but many other factors contribute towards illness. I can attest to that cause that's exactly how my life played out....a lot of stress on a daily basis....maybe that's why I can't regain true health. But I am not a quitter...I keep pressing on with the good Lord by my side and hopefully one fine day, I will see the light at the end of the tunnel. Anyways, thank you again for taking the time to answer my query with such detail. I really do appreciate it and yes I will let you know what worked for me if I find something that does.....I heard about a product called Thyrogold that I am thinking of trying cause I don't want to be on medication all my life. Have you heard of this and if so, what are your thoughts? Looking forward to hearing from you, Take care and have a blessed day...."

04/06/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I admire your attitude!

I have never used Thyrogold, not have known anyone to. However, when I read about it online, it seems like something I would try if I were wanting to get off medications and what I was trying was not working. So much of what I have learned has been trial and error on myself.

Have you ever read any of Dr. John Lee's books? I have his book called, "What Your Doctor May not tell you about Premenopause." He also has one for menopause. His writing is somewhat technical, but also interesting and helpful. I mention this because in his Premenopause book, he talks some about thryoid, particularly its relationship to other hormones. The premenopause book is directed towards women in the 30-50 age range and the menopause one for 50 and over. You have obviously done your research and tried many things...there may be a few more "stones to unturn" in his writings.

Keep in touch and God bless.

~Mama to Many~"

04/07/2014: Lauren from New York, US: "Thank you Mama to many....I definitely would check out the books...never thought of that and I am a reader....thanks for that tip...take care and have a blessed day......"

04/14/2014: Ivy from Canada: ""Mama to Many" mentioned she wasn't worried about her water because she has well water. I got sick in 2000 with "fibromyalgia" and had a heavy metal test done and arsenic was high. My test said sources of arsenic were well water or run off from an orchard. Had my well water tested and there was arsenic in it, but the fluoride levels in the water were even worse. My 440 foot deep well had less than a grain of hardness (old well had 55 grains of hardness), so I never thought to get the water tested. Just because it is well water doesn't mean it is safe. Fluoride can be naturally occuring as well as heavy metals. The symptoms of fibromyalgia are the same as chronic fluoride poisoning:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/fluoride-the-cause-of-fibromyalgia-a-3782.html

Ivy"

04/14/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee: "Wow Ivy, thanks for sharing that! It is good to know. It never occurred to me that well water could have flouride in it. I knew what I was dealing with with our water since we had it tested when we moved to our current home. It was orange and we wanted to know what we were dealing with (Turns out it was manganese, which is easily filtered with charcoal.) I should not have assumed that well water in general does not have flouride! I agree that well water is not always safe! Years ago my children were all of a sudden vomiting and had no fever or other symptoms. We finally realized it was when they drank water. We had it tested and it had bacteria in it. We had to treat our well. I guess the moral of the story is that people on well water should get water tests to make sure they know what they are dealing with... Thanks again for the helpful information! ~Mama to Many~"

04/04/2014: Ladymars from Florida, Us: "Hi, you might want to check out the remedies listed under 'Varicose Veins' on this website. Good luck!"

04/05/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Embarassed...Using Nattokinase or Serrapeptase, which are protein digesting enzymes, will act to dissolve the dead organic fibrin build up in the capillaries that generally causes the varicose veins problem.

As additional support you should also take niacin or slow release niacin(no flush niacin -- also called Inositol Hexanicotinate). The purpose of the niacin protocol is to change and thin the blood safely. It also prevents blood lipoproteins becoming too sticky, which causes the blockages at the extremeties of the body. Niacin also opens up the blood vessels and capillaries, which helps to allow the serrepeptase or nattokinase to be delivered more efficiently to the extremeties (hands and feet) where it is needed most without problems.

If you can, also take a strong liquid kelp extract. Kelp contains iodine which acts to make fats/proteins more soluble for easier removal by the liver. Thus excessive fats/proteins in the blood are actively reduced, also helping to eliminate another reason for the varicose vein problem.

Supplement Brewer's Yeast.

Dosages:

Serrapeptase or Nattokinase(as advised on the bottle). Always take these supplements outside mealtimes because you want them to act in the blood.

Liquid Kelp Extract -- As advised on the bottle. The liquid kelp will help you in many other ways as well -- too numerous to mention.

Inositol Hexanicotinate(slow release form) -- 1500 mgs twice a day at meals. If you prefer to take niacin (cheaper flush form) then the per diem dose is lower because of the flush -- 500 mgs twice a day taken at mealtimes.

Brewer's Yeast -- One tablespoon once a day with water at breakfast. Brewer's Yeast contains all the B Vitamins (except B12). All the B vitamins depend on each other, which is why taking brewer's Yeast will naturally add to the effectiveness of the niacin."

04/05/2014: Embarrased from Usa: "Thank you so much Bill for your helpful information. I am certainly going to try your recommendations and hope to report back with success!"

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Robert Henry, 'ol buddy;

Re: all your problems

First: Cordical Atrophy of both kidneys.

Second: Edema of the legs.

Third: Crushed vertebra.

The cordical is the cortex or the outer layer and is usually associated with the brain but can also relate to kidney. So the MRI showed the outer area of both kidneys is atrophying. Dangerous and potentially lethal as I'm sure the MDs have told you.

The Edema is the big clue that tells us the cause of the atrophy. I have a 91 year old pal who takes lots of nutritional stuff and has for 40 years. I went to see him in the assisted care facility and there he was ... laid up with special wrappings around his legs... legs lifted; Edema.

What is going on, I asked him. With all the great nutritionals you swallow why should you have a circulation problem? And after talking to him, that was just about the only problem he had. His mind is still sharp; he looks good (outnumbered 7 to 1 female to male residents he is the center of attention at the Saturday night "events" there at the Facility).

But I digress.

I insisted on reviewing his nutrient inventory. Mercy. He takes more pills than I do, and I take 40 or so a day.

HOWEVER, the one I was looking for, and there were some exotic ones in his "box" was missing.

What, dear reader, will facilitate the bloods circulation more than any other?

What, is the greatest cause of Edema? Circulatory insufficiency. And as to the previous question...what will facilitate blood circulation, and vein and arterial dilation, and elimination of inflammation that can restrict circulation and even plaque removal which certainly will cause Edema...

I am sure the astute reader and you, Robert Henry, know the answer to this question. But do you know what? My old friend, the one in the nursing home was not, I say NOT taking that fundamental...absolutely bottom line essential vitamin. And literally, within 10 days of adding that ONE nutrient to his regimen he was nearly Edema free.

And...and...watch this: Lack of blood flow as evidenced by the Edema MIGHT also be the cause of the atrophying kidneys. May Be....

THE KEY is NATURAL VITAMIN E....Lack of proper circulation is killing you. It can only help in your recovery of the vertebra. If surgery, E can help the healing.

The Doctors "Shute"... brothers... and Canadian physicians back in the 50s were talking about Edema and Vitamin E. Circulation and Vitamin E. Clot removal and Vitamin E.

If this were me, I'd start with 200 IUs daily of Natural E (d alpha tocopherol, and not the dl form which is synthetic). After a few weeks, increase to 400 IUs, and two weeks later same increase and two weeks later same increase. I take 1000 IUs daily and have for ... oh, 30 years or so. And make sure your are taking Magnesium and Arginine. 500 mg of each. (I take 5 thousand mg of Arginine.) Some folks, if facing big circulatory problems will take DMSO cream and mix in Vitamin E and apply topically to the effected areas; goes straight to the site, through the skin. And some folks, if the problem is not resolved, will increase the oral dosage to 2000 IUs.

Robert Henry, you are REALLY smart. Now, try to think of anything else to improve circulation, because (re the kidney) whatever the cause is (Cysts?), the improved circulation on the outside of the Kidney (Cortex = Cortical) will benefit both that problem and the Edema.

Now as many nutrients as you do take, maybe you'll tell me you are taking 1, 000 natural Vitamin E. But if that is the case, then SOMETHING is stopping it from acting. Are you sure it is natural? REALLY synthetic (sure it's cheap) but it won't work. Magnesium? Enhances the E and so does Vitamin C and selenium. Robert Henry, think now; you've helped thousands. You can figure this out. Don't give up.

You are loved and we need you.

And one more thing: Act fast.

Your old pal,

And YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn: "HI U DAVE, , , , , , , you hit it on the head. I take a toe sack full of supplements but do not specifically take Vitamin E , but will get it tomorrow.

Appreciate your counsel and words of encouragement. As you might imagine, I'm pretty low these days and you have given me a lift.

Got the boys coming tomorrow to finish our Bamboo Crappie Condo's. Hope to fill the freezer during the spring spawn.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY======="

04/04/2014: Cindy from Usa: "To Dave: as always enjoy reading your helpful informative posts. This is only a curious question not meant to imply anything-if you follow 80/10/10 diet why 40 pills a day? I take supplements too, don't get me wrong, just wondering what you take? thanks also, is the 80 raw? what are the 10/10.thanks"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hey there Cindy;

Re: Your question in reference to my post to Robert Henry..

First, thank you for the nice compliment. I am such a believer in natural E to ward off cardio and circulation related issues.

Now your question was, I think, what 40 pills do I take and then you asked about the 80/10/10 diet with the 80 being raw.

Well, I am a patient of Dr Nick Gonzales of Manhattan, and he did want me on a more raw diet but classified my metabolic type as "meat eater."

But I don't follow the 80/10/10 even though I should and could even under Dr Gonzales' classification.

I am a terrible sinner. I eat bad things and this is a major fault of mine. Very little exercise (I adhere to the HIIT method...High Intensity Interval Training.) I practice flexibility movements and shadow boxing from the "old days" to keep up agility and speed (or a semblance of it). I practice elementary karate kicks.

And, as mentioned, I take a lot of nutrients. Were, you asking for a list of what I take? Sorry, I wasn't following exactly but just listed my list of what I do and what I shouldn't do.

If you want the list I'll be glad to do so."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Cindy: Dave takes supplements. I follow the 80/10/10 program. The idea behind the program is that raw organic fruit is going to have more energy than in regular food because of the enzymes, humic fulvic acids, xeronines, and trace minerals. We believe this is the best food program. People can eat as much raw organic fruit as they want whenever they want. The only two technical aspects are soaking nuts and seeds for protein and oil and getting the proper ratio of carbs to oil. I would encourage you to try the program."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Robert Henry, 'ol buddy;

Re: all your problems

First: Cordical Atrophy of both kidneys.

Second: Edema of the legs.

Third: Crushed vertebra.

The cordical is the cortex or the outer layer and is usually associated with the brain but can also relate to kidney. So the MRI showed the outer area of both kidneys is atrophying. Dangerous and potentially lethal as I'm sure the MDs have told you.

The Edema is the big clue that tells us the cause of the atrophy. I have a 91 year old pal who takes lots of nutritional stuff and has for 40 years. I went to see him in the assisted care facility and there he was ... laid up with special wrappings around his legs... legs lifted; Edema.

What is going on, I asked him. With all the great nutritionals you swallow why should you have a circulation problem? And after talking to him, that was just about the only problem he had. His mind is still sharp; he looks good (outnumbered 7 to 1 female to male residents he is the center of attention at the Saturday night "events" there at the Facility).

But I digress.

I insisted on reviewing his nutrient inventory. Mercy. He takes more pills than I do, and I take 40 or so a day.

HOWEVER, the one I was looking for, and there were some exotic ones in his "box" was missing.

What, dear reader, will facilitate the bloods circulation more than any other?

What, is the greatest cause of Edema? Circulatory insufficiency. And as to the previous question...what will facilitate blood circulation, and vein and arterial dilation, and elimination of inflammation that can restrict circulation and even plaque removal which certainly will cause Edema...

I am sure the astute reader and you, Robert Henry, know the answer to this question. But do you know what? My old friend, the one in the nursing home was not, I say NOT taking that fundamental...absolutely bottom line essential vitamin. And literally, within 10 days of adding that ONE nutrient to his regimen he was nearly Edema free.

And...and...watch this: Lack of blood flow as evidenced by the Edema MIGHT also be the cause of the atrophying kidneys. May Be....

THE KEY is NATURAL VITAMIN E....Lack of proper circulation is killing you. It can only help in your recovery of the vertebra. If surgery, E can help the healing.

The Doctors "Shute"... brothers... and Canadian physicians back in the 50s were talking about Edema and Vitamin E. Circulation and Vitamin E. Clot removal and Vitamin E.

If this were me, I'd start with 200 IUs daily of Natural E (d alpha tocopherol, and not the dl form which is synthetic). After a few weeks, increase to 400 IUs, and two weeks later same increase and two weeks later same increase. I take 1000 IUs daily and have for ... oh, 30 years or so. And make sure your are taking Magnesium and Arginine. 500 mg of each. (I take 5 thousand mg of Arginine.) Some folks, if facing big circulatory problems will take DMSO cream and mix in Vitamin E and apply topically to the effected areas; goes straight to the site, through the skin. And some folks, if the problem is not resolved, will increase the oral dosage to 2000 IUs.

Robert Henry, you are REALLY smart. Now, try to think of anything else to improve circulation, because (re the kidney) whatever the cause is (Cysts?), the improved circulation on the outside of the Kidney (Cortex = Cortical) will benefit both that problem and the Edema.

Now as many nutrients as you do take, maybe you'll tell me you are taking 1, 000 natural Vitamin E. But if that is the case, then SOMETHING is stopping it from acting. Are you sure it is natural? REALLY synthetic (sure it's cheap) but it won't work. Magnesium? Enhances the E and so does Vitamin C and selenium. Robert Henry, think now; you've helped thousands. You can figure this out. Don't give up.

You are loved and we need you.

And one more thing: Act fast.

Your old pal,

And YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn: "HI U DAVE, , , , , , , you hit it on the head. I take a toe sack full of supplements but do not specifically take Vitamin E , but will get it tomorrow.

Appreciate your counsel and words of encouragement. As you might imagine, I'm pretty low these days and you have given me a lift.

Got the boys coming tomorrow to finish our Bamboo Crappie Condo's. Hope to fill the freezer during the spring spawn.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY======="

04/04/2014: Cindy from Usa: "To Dave: as always enjoy reading your helpful informative posts. This is only a curious question not meant to imply anything-if you follow 80/10/10 diet why 40 pills a day? I take supplements too, don't get me wrong, just wondering what you take? thanks also, is the 80 raw? what are the 10/10.thanks"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hey there Cindy;

Re: Your question in reference to my post to Robert Henry..

First, thank you for the nice compliment. I am such a believer in natural E to ward off cardio and circulation related issues.

Now your question was, I think, what 40 pills do I take and then you asked about the 80/10/10 diet with the 80 being raw.

Well, I am a patient of Dr Nick Gonzales of Manhattan, and he did want me on a more raw diet but classified my metabolic type as "meat eater."

But I don't follow the 80/10/10 even though I should and could even under Dr Gonzales' classification.

I am a terrible sinner. I eat bad things and this is a major fault of mine. Very little exercise (I adhere to the HIIT method...High Intensity Interval Training.) I practice flexibility movements and shadow boxing from the "old days" to keep up agility and speed (or a semblance of it). I practice elementary karate kicks.

And, as mentioned, I take a lot of nutrients. Were, you asking for a list of what I take? Sorry, I wasn't following exactly but just listed my list of what I do and what I shouldn't do.

If you want the list I'll be glad to do so."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Cindy: Dave takes supplements. I follow the 80/10/10 program. The idea behind the program is that raw organic fruit is going to have more energy than in regular food because of the enzymes, humic fulvic acids, xeronines, and trace minerals. We believe this is the best food program. People can eat as much raw organic fruit as they want whenever they want. The only two technical aspects are soaking nuts and seeds for protein and oil and getting the proper ratio of carbs to oil. I would encourage you to try the program."

04/02/2014: Ed2010 from Canada: "The enzyme of papaya is papain not pepsin. Papain is a protein digesting enzyme. And papaya incerases digestion by stimulating the pancreas, Rich in Vitamin A. Dry papaya chunks are used as meat tenderizer by chefs.

Papaya is a Heat Producing fruit. Traditional varieties are more sweet than the hybrid varieties. Hybrids and GMO's have changed the medicinal properties of many foods.

Good Health"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Thanks for the excellent explanation that encouraged me to try the remedy. I feel better. All us ordinary folk here in Rocky Mountain High think you are an enlightened knowledgeable wise man."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mike, my friend;

Re Papaya....

Tonight I ate a "hot" soup prepared by my Indian friend from Malaysia for my wife and me. "Hot" as in spicy. Normally, that kind of hot would cause some skin irritation, but having little will power in culinary matters, I consumed a big bowl anyway. And to counter the inevitable irritation, a few minutes later, I ate three or four bites of Papaya, cool and soothing. Now, 40 minutes later, I feel no irritation at all and by now I certainly would have. So....another Papaya story.

And thank you for the compliment about my standing among the "illuminati" at "Rocky Mountain High"!!!!

YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Ed from Canada;

Re Papaya enzyme...

Thank you so much for the correction; "Papain" is the dominate enzyme.

Another experiment with Papaya:

Tonight I used some chopped up Papaya in a mix of ice cream (butter pecan) and Greek yogurt...then refroze. Turned out to be a nice "ad lib" concoction. Creamier than normal ice cream and the Papaya didn't overpower the taste of either the yogurt or the ice cream. And the real purpose of the Papaya was to make the rich creamy desert digestible...so I am not "hit" with an attack of reflux. We'll see. If I had not put Papaya with such a cream/milk based mix...unless I downed a lot of ACV before bed...reflux would be likely.

So I continue to test the limits of Papaya in digestive matters. I didn't eat the black seeds tonight so I am wondering whether that will influence the "test." I intentionally won't take ACV this evening just to push the "digestive" envelope.

Now some "critic" may suggest that I'm doing this "ice cream test" as a ploy, a mere excuse to eat ice cream.

How could such a hypothetical critic, such as my wife, think such a thing.

I am wanting to see the digestive limits of Papaya. And that is all.

However, I may have to test the Papaya digestive limits with various ice cream flavors...chocolate (with Papaya), strawberry (with Papaya) etc.

Just as a test, mind you.

For purely scientific purposes.

Yes, I am willing to sacrifice myself in such a "test"... for all to know the benefits. Will report back the results six pounds from now...ah....six days from now.

Big Dave from Fountain Inn"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Wow, your sacrifice for the sake of science and humanity will be remembered and appreciated by many!

Let me know if you find that Papaya makes chocolate chip mint ice cream more digestible.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~"

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mama to Many;

Re Papaya and Ice Cream...

I'd forgotten about Chocolate Chip Mint Ice Cream!!! That most certainly will be added to the list. So far, with the CCMIC, I've got seven to test.

Wow. This is hard work."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mama to Many and anyone interested in the Papaya experiments;

Update; I continue to attempt dietary suicide by consuming ALLLL the foods that I KNOW will kill me.

Well, perhaps this is hyperbolae. "Exaggeration for the sake of effect"...otherwise known as a "lie" is OK if it has literary value. So says some philosopher of ethics I read one time. Can't recall who. But some philosopher must have said it at some point in time because philosophers say most everything.

Back to the point: Certain foods will cause me terrific problems; too much creamy stuff, too much coffee and red meat and for SURE; Reflux. I mean for sure.

ANY salsa and for sure, skin irritation is immediate; especially back of scalp...and burning eyes.

That scalp condition has been a reaction since I was a child and the reflux developed ten years ago.

Well, I have indulged; And my wife, intrigued at my new attempt at such an "adventurous" life style, her elbow on kitchen counter, head in palm of her hand just gazing at me as I stuff chip after chip laden with hot salsa into my burning mouth.

"What?" I ask as bits of salsa fall over my reddened lip.

"Just watching. And waiting. I have the phone ready to call 911."

"Very funny." I gulp down the twentieth chip. I choke a bit but recover.

"Push that bowl of Papaya and Mango over here. You're not getting the insurance money that easily, love. Watch this."

And with that, I down eight soothing...cooling spoonfuls of the blend of one Papaya and three much smaller Mangos, blended and then strained to make a thick, beautiful orange/yellow "soup." I do not dilute; just using a spoon I consume letting the mild, mellow liquid soak into my mouth before swallowing.

"There. Saved."

"We'll see." And she continued to stare at me.

I neither died NOR broke out in the slightest rash.

And as a further "update" I tried to induce Reflux by downing a huge container of Coffee ice cream. ALL for the sake of science; followed by Papaya again. (Mama to Many...you alone seem to understand the sacrifice involved ... bless you.)

No Reflux. Yet.

There has to be some point of excess that the Papaya can't overcome and I am determined, for the sake of science, to find THAT POINT.

AND; I have ONLY gained two pounds in this .... this experiment... thus far.

I am only doing this for you...dear EC readers. Testing the limits..." boldly going where no man has gone before..." Some philosopher said that too. Plato I do believe. Maybe Wittgenstein. The Later Wittgenstein.

And if that point...which I spoke of is reached...over some bowl of forbidden flavors, don't be surprised if my wife, newly attired in the finest of apparel, holds a series of "appreciation" events at a few selected sites...

And don't feel sorry for her. She'll be traveling around the globe for a while; overcoming her grief and looking for new "remedies" out of love and respect for her deceased husband; who died while looking for solutions to ailments...only trying to help those hurting."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Papaya make my desiccated liver taste better."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mike 62;

Re Desiccated Liver plus Papaya...

Mike...you just a star!

Wow...who would have thunk...Desiccated Liver- and Papaya making it taste better!

The only way to improve even that would be to make it into an ice cream.

We'd call it....

"Mike 62 Desiccated Liver Papaya Ice Cream Explosion"...

But hold on...before I rev up on the marketing campaign...you operate off very strict dietary rules if I recall. Does ice cream fit within those bounds? Maybe we use Almond Milk."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: I am not a perfectionist. I don't eat perfectly all the time. You could try Mike's mountain mush. Three of the ingredients are dairy. Mix papaya, non denatured whey, colostrum, and sour cream together. This would taste like yogurt because of the sour cream."

04/11/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver

What is dessicated Liver? I don't eat red meat .. don't like the taste of it.

So you eat 80 percent raw ... I try that but its pretty challenging but do the best I can..what do you eat cooked?"

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...My congratulations to you on your experiment with papaya. A brave man indeed!!

However, I've got to say that I think that papaya had very little to do with your ability to eat those bad foods without problems. I'll try and explain why.

First, have a look at this link which is something I've quickly written that helps to explain how stomach acid and duodenal digestion or Main Stage Digestion are so crucially linked:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6bKkuZlS7-Q_-bTJk1sU_cvNRSQr8_WM91FJ7jIvR4/edit?usp=sharing

What saved your bacon was probably the lime juice in the salsa -- which raised your low stomach acid and triggered all your proper enzymes in the duodenum for main stage digestion -- such amylase, lipase, lactase, tripsin etc.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

* Papaya contains papain -- which can only digest proteins.

* So how was your digestive system or papaya able to successfully digest corn chips(a carbohydrate) without problems ?

* How could your papaya digest coffee ice cream without problems(contains mainly lactose, fats and sugars -- not protein).

The only explanation must be that the acidic lime juice in the salsa was perhaps what raised your stomach acid levels to proper strength again which, via a hormone, then successfully triggered the secretion of all the proper duodenal enzymes and digestion without problems.

You could perhaps achieve exactly the same result by just taking two tablespoons of vinegar or ACV with meals-- which would also raise your pH stomach acidity to proper levels again -- thus successfully triggering secretion of your alkaline pancreatic juices and enzymes thus enabling proper digestion. But lime juice, ACV and vinegar are not the cure -- it only treats the symptoms.

To restore your stomach acid(HCl) to normal, you will have to supplement sources of chlorides to restore your gastric HCL. That's why taking Betaine HCl, Magnesium Chloride(Mag Oil), Sea Salt, Iodine, pancreatin, B complex etc helps to restore stomach HCl and digestion to normal.

The other reason for acid intestines can also be because of lack of bicarbs in the body and in the pancreatic juices. In such cases where the bicarbs from the pancreatic juices are insufficient and cannot neutralize stomach chyme, it may also advisable to perhaps supplement baking soda and water about an hour after meals(when the stomach has finished working) to ensure that proper alkaline to neutral digestion in the duodenum is also achieved for proper digestion to occur."

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...Just to also make clear that I am all for nutrients like papaya and dessicated liver. I've been taking them both for years. I usually take the papaya every morning in a smoothie mixed with other fruits like graviola(paw-paw), mangoes, oranges, grapes -- any fruit that's in season. This provides alot of the vitamins and fibre I need because I don't usually eat enough vegetables in my diet. Papaya clears out all the organic protein debris in the blood and seems to also help regulate my bowel movements every day.

The dessicated liver is also a godsend -- best multivit around -- it contains all the same vits and minerals as spirulina but is in a much more bio-available and cheaper form. Easily bought at any health or muscle shop."

04/12/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Re; Your theory as to Papaya enzymes

Greetings:

Your theory that the citric acid in the Salsa which helped with digestion and not the Papain in the Papaya was a good one. But I just checked the label on the Salsa and there is no citric acid in it (extra lemon juice). There could be natural citric acid in the Tomato but it is the Tomato/Chili that I am VERY allergic to. And so any "citric acid" contained in them has never helped before.

You rightly ask and rightly question; How is it that the Papain (which digests protein) can help with Corn and ice cream digestion?

And THAT is just what has intrigued me. Obviously more is going on than protein digestion provided by the Papaya. Are other enzymes at work? Is the Papain relieving the enzyme production in my own body so that OTHER enzymes are more easily produced that are doing a better job digesting?

And, I think the alkalizing effect could be extraordinarily strong. So the acid in the Salsa/tomato products/ chili etc. is greatly minimized by the Papaya. THAT may not be an enzyme issue.

Now, back to protein; A cup of milk has 8 grams of protein. Ditto on ice cream. And the sugar seems to make my Reflux worse. But if I eat a red meat meal at night and eat ice cream too, then by 3 am, I'm awake with a "grinding" in my stomach OR...WORSE...reflux.

This is why I'm my own guinea pig. And I have asked if anyone else has results from Papaya consumption that could lend some insight to this discussion.

Thank you Bill for weighing in.

You and Ted are just the best.

Your student,

dave"

04/12/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: A handful of Indians were starving during a cold winter while being chased by the cavalry. Eventually they shot an elk. The first thing they did was eat the liver raw. Rats fed raw liver swam eight times longer because of special enzymes. Eskimos eat liver and blubber rare. Vitamin A is in the liver and Vitamin D is in the blubber. They knew to eat them in the proper ratio before scientific investigation. I eat Dave's Denver Delight. Tomato paste and, because of you, papaya are added to improve flavor."

04/12/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Your detailed observations are fascinating and informative. I am looking forward to risking some ice cream soon, when I can get a papaya in hand, that is. Thank you for your continued work for science and humanity! Your sacrifice will benefit many!

~Mama to Many~

P.S. My husband confirms that it is Star Trek that coined (or perhaps popularized?) the phrase, "to go boldly where no man has gone before." :)"

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Robert Henry, 'ol buddy;

Re: all your problems

First: Cordical Atrophy of both kidneys.

Second: Edema of the legs.

Third: Crushed vertebra.

The cordical is the cortex or the outer layer and is usually associated with the brain but can also relate to kidney. So the MRI showed the outer area of both kidneys is atrophying. Dangerous and potentially lethal as I'm sure the MDs have told you.

The Edema is the big clue that tells us the cause of the atrophy. I have a 91 year old pal who takes lots of nutritional stuff and has for 40 years. I went to see him in the assisted care facility and there he was ... laid up with special wrappings around his legs... legs lifted; Edema.

What is going on, I asked him. With all the great nutritionals you swallow why should you have a circulation problem? And after talking to him, that was just about the only problem he had. His mind is still sharp; he looks good (outnumbered 7 to 1 female to male residents he is the center of attention at the Saturday night "events" there at the Facility).

But I digress.

I insisted on reviewing his nutrient inventory. Mercy. He takes more pills than I do, and I take 40 or so a day.

HOWEVER, the one I was looking for, and there were some exotic ones in his "box" was missing.

What, dear reader, will facilitate the bloods circulation more than any other?

What, is the greatest cause of Edema? Circulatory insufficiency. And as to the previous question...what will facilitate blood circulation, and vein and arterial dilation, and elimination of inflammation that can restrict circulation and even plaque removal which certainly will cause Edema...

I am sure the astute reader and you, Robert Henry, know the answer to this question. But do you know what? My old friend, the one in the nursing home was not, I say NOT taking that fundamental...absolutely bottom line essential vitamin. And literally, within 10 days of adding that ONE nutrient to his regimen he was nearly Edema free.

And...and...watch this: Lack of blood flow as evidenced by the Edema MIGHT also be the cause of the atrophying kidneys. May Be....

THE KEY is NATURAL VITAMIN E....Lack of proper circulation is killing you. It can only help in your recovery of the vertebra. If surgery, E can help the healing.

The Doctors "Shute"... brothers... and Canadian physicians back in the 50s were talking about Edema and Vitamin E. Circulation and Vitamin E. Clot removal and Vitamin E.

If this were me, I'd start with 200 IUs daily of Natural E (d alpha tocopherol, and not the dl form which is synthetic). After a few weeks, increase to 400 IUs, and two weeks later same increase and two weeks later same increase. I take 1000 IUs daily and have for ... oh, 30 years or so. And make sure your are taking Magnesium and Arginine. 500 mg of each. (I take 5 thousand mg of Arginine.) Some folks, if facing big circulatory problems will take DMSO cream and mix in Vitamin E and apply topically to the effected areas; goes straight to the site, through the skin. And some folks, if the problem is not resolved, will increase the oral dosage to 2000 IUs.

Robert Henry, you are REALLY smart. Now, try to think of anything else to improve circulation, because (re the kidney) whatever the cause is (Cysts?), the improved circulation on the outside of the Kidney (Cortex = Cortical) will benefit both that problem and the Edema.

Now as many nutrients as you do take, maybe you'll tell me you are taking 1, 000 natural Vitamin E. But if that is the case, then SOMETHING is stopping it from acting. Are you sure it is natural? REALLY synthetic (sure it's cheap) but it won't work. Magnesium? Enhances the E and so does Vitamin C and selenium. Robert Henry, think now; you've helped thousands. You can figure this out. Don't give up.

You are loved and we need you.

And one more thing: Act fast.

Your old pal,

And YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn: "HI U DAVE, , , , , , , you hit it on the head. I take a toe sack full of supplements but do not specifically take Vitamin E , but will get it tomorrow.

Appreciate your counsel and words of encouragement. As you might imagine, I'm pretty low these days and you have given me a lift.

Got the boys coming tomorrow to finish our Bamboo Crappie Condo's. Hope to fill the freezer during the spring spawn.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY======="

04/04/2014: Cindy from Usa: "To Dave: as always enjoy reading your helpful informative posts. This is only a curious question not meant to imply anything-if you follow 80/10/10 diet why 40 pills a day? I take supplements too, don't get me wrong, just wondering what you take? thanks also, is the 80 raw? what are the 10/10.thanks"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hey there Cindy;

Re: Your question in reference to my post to Robert Henry..

First, thank you for the nice compliment. I am such a believer in natural E to ward off cardio and circulation related issues.

Now your question was, I think, what 40 pills do I take and then you asked about the 80/10/10 diet with the 80 being raw.

Well, I am a patient of Dr Nick Gonzales of Manhattan, and he did want me on a more raw diet but classified my metabolic type as "meat eater."

But I don't follow the 80/10/10 even though I should and could even under Dr Gonzales' classification.

I am a terrible sinner. I eat bad things and this is a major fault of mine. Very little exercise (I adhere to the HIIT method...High Intensity Interval Training.) I practice flexibility movements and shadow boxing from the "old days" to keep up agility and speed (or a semblance of it). I practice elementary karate kicks.

And, as mentioned, I take a lot of nutrients. Were, you asking for a list of what I take? Sorry, I wasn't following exactly but just listed my list of what I do and what I shouldn't do.

If you want the list I'll be glad to do so."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Cindy: Dave takes supplements. I follow the 80/10/10 program. The idea behind the program is that raw organic fruit is going to have more energy than in regular food because of the enzymes, humic fulvic acids, xeronines, and trace minerals. We believe this is the best food program. People can eat as much raw organic fruit as they want whenever they want. The only two technical aspects are soaking nuts and seeds for protein and oil and getting the proper ratio of carbs to oil. I would encourage you to try the program."

06/15/2013: Anonymous : "Hi Desmond, This is great news and thanks for posting. However please consider carrying on with a small dose of Blackstrap Molasses ever day and try and investigate why you had the clot as they can be a red flag to some other disease."

07/18/2013: Kt from The USA: "Hi Desmond, did you use just "Molasses" or Blackstap Molasses?"

[YEA]  11/18/2013: Annice from Texas: "Thank you Desmond for taking the time to post this. The same thing happened to me.J ust below my knee on the calf of my leg. It just kept swelling and it was red. We had just watched Dr. Oz the day before, and he told of the symptoms of a blood clot. It was scary.

I am not one to run to the doctor for just what ever. But I thought well now I have to go. Did not expect to find any help for a blood clot. OK, Blackstrap molasses, really .I went straight to the grocery store (I brought my Tblsp) with me. Took it before I left the parking lot .I was desperate. It has been a week now. And the clot seems to be gone.I took 2 tbls a day mixed in 6oz. of milk. I plan to keep taking it. Maybe not as much, but it seems to be a healthy addition to anyones diet. I used the Brer Rabbit brand because the lable showed to have more iron and magnesium than the grandmas brand. Hope this helps someone."

11/18/2013: Prioris from Fl: "There is already an optimal healthy supplement for blood clots - fibrolytic enzymes e.g. nattokinase (clot buster). Given that it could be a life or death issue, I would recommend that people retire molasses and other treatments to the dustbin as a treatment unless they can't get access to the enzyme."

04/04/2014: Airforce Wifey from Joint Base Andrews, Md: "Is Blackstrap Molasses ok to take while on Warfarin and some other ulcer/colitis meds? :( Trying to stay hopeful for the hubby."

04/05/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Airforce Wifey,

I don't know for sure if Blackstrap is okay to take with those meds. Blackstrap is high in some nutrients (which is why it helps with so many things! ) but none are above the RDA for the nutrients. It seems like it should be okay, but I am not a doctor or chemist. You might want to check with a pharmacist. Let us know if you find anything conclusive.

~Mama to Many~"

10/31/2008: Sim from Gaithersburg, MD: "What mineral supplement were you given?"

07/27/2013: Mary from Illinois: "I need to stop my panic attacks... Any more info on the mineral drops etc would be very helpful. I did a hair mineral test and mine are all mixed ip. Help. Thank you so much!!"

04/04/2014: Pat R from Osceola, Indiana: "Did Wendy from Barrie, Ontario Canada ever write back to let us know what was the concentrated mineral supplement was that she used?"

04/04/2014: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada: "I don't think Wendy from Barrie has responded about the "concentrated mineral supplement" she took.

However, I'm wondering if it is ConcenTrace (you can get it from health food stores, as well as Amazon). The bottle says "full-spectrum body-balanced ionic minerals and trace elements" and states you are to take 10 to 20 drops up to twice a day in water or liquid. Some people have to work up to that level due to the laxative effect it may have on them. People also use it to re-mineralize distilled or reverse-osmosis water.

This product is quite popular so perhaps it's the one she used. Hope that helps! Best of health to you and yours, Bess"

04/25/2013: Jr from Coloma, Mi: "Hi, I would love to know how to make the comfrey ointment."

04/25/2013: Georgina from Tolmiev, Victoria, Australia: "A good guide is to go to You Tube and look up 'How to make Comfrey Ointment Part 1' (Part 2 is also there). It is a demonstration by someone called Sue Goodwin. I followed her instructions and it was so easy. At the end of the process I added some essential oil of lavender, just to make it smell nice really. As long as you have some Comfrey Root you can access you can make at least three jars using the method shown.

It is now 12 Days since I started using it on my Lichen Planus and each day it gets smaller and healthier looking. As with all herbal remedies I will continue with the ointment until it is well and truly cleared up."

03/29/2014: Lydia from Salt Lake City: "I would like the recipe please? Thanks"

04/04/2014: June from Herts UK: "Georgina can you please give me comfrey root ointment recipe for lichen planus thanks"

04/04/2014: Kilee from Ontario, Canada: "Mr Ree from Usa Thank for your suggestion that I try licorice extract for shingles. I am over four months into this , left with the horrible scarring and the nerve pain that just goes on and on. Do you think the licorice extract will still work this late in? If you think so , I will definitely give it a try. thank you , Kilee"

04/04/2014: Mr. Ree from Usa: "For $8.95 it's certainly worth a try...I have always recommended "Natures Answer.' I have not tried other licorice extract...I got rid of my shingles in 3 days about 1 1/2 months after it surfaced...Then beat it twice more when it hit the same day...In one hour! I still have the bottle a couple of years later and it's 1/2 full."

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Kilee,

Re Shingles

You might also consider this: The ongoing nerve pain might be that the virus is still working. That is the virus has not been killed. Look under the Shingles (Ailment Section) on Earth Clinic and you'll see numerous remedies to deal with Shingles.

I have a post there and relate my experience with Shingles. I used a combo of Cayenne and Vitamin E and DMSO and Colloidal Silver as a salve. The CS and Cayenne were used to kill the virus; the E to make sure the Cayenne did not burn the skin and of course the DMSO was the carrier. And it too is anti viral.

Next, consider the possibility that the virus has damaged the nerves. So even if you do kill the virus, some shingles cases continue to hurt because of nerve damage. To help with nerve healing I use "AEP" and it's called Calcium AEP. (NOT just calcium.) The AEP is what you are after. Google; nutrition review calcium AEP. Great article. Dr Robert Adkins used it as primary item in treating his MS patients."

04/02/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I have used charcoal (internally and externally) for years. I also am hypothyroid, though currently symptom free. I just am careful not to take charcoal within two hours of supplements that I take for my thyroid, or any supplements. I have never had a problem with it.

I love charcoal...it is inexpensive, easily accessible, safe and effective.

Have a great day!

~Mama to Many~"

04/02/2014: Suseeq from Sydney Australia: "To mama to many -- just curious what have you used charcoal on externally. Thanks"

04/02/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Suseeq,

I have used charcoal in poultices externally on me and my children and most recently on my father...here are some things on which I have used charcoal...

-insect stings (spider bites, tick bites, bee stings) to draw out the poison and reduce pain and swelling.

-skin infections or wounds that look like they might become infected.

-infected finger (at the nail area. I have seen the poultices draw pus out over several overnight applications.)

-staph infection on the skin (in conjunction with other remedies internally.)

-over a surgical site that I was concerned could become infected.

-over the ovary area for cyst pain.

-mixed in water and strained out to use in the eye for pinkeye or in the ear for an ear infection.

-packed into the hoof a a goat with a hoof infection.

-poison ivy.

-eczema.

Charcoal draws out infection and reduces inflammation. It has been effective for our family in so many ways that I never hesitate to use it.

Have a great day!

~Mama to Many~"

04/03/2014: Suseeq from Sydney, Australia: "Tthank you, mama to many, charcoal is a very handy thing to keep on hand. I didn't know it can do so many things. I always keep it but I'll use more from now on, thanks again"

04/04/2014: Lauren from Queens, Ny: "Thank you Mama to many for your response. You are very kind and helpful always. I am curious though.....what did you do to become symptom free from thyroid disease? I have been trying for the past four years to achieve that....I mean I feel like I have taken every vitamin out there, I have drunk every green juice on this earth, I rarely eat junk food and yet I am struggling especially since menopause...any suggestions would greatly help....thank you so much"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I would be happy to share what I have tried for my low thyroid…I hope it will be helpful to you. Of course you may have already tried these things if you have been working on healing for so long. It sure can be vexing to try remedy after remedy and not find the answer.

Currently I am taking 2 droppers of Lugol’s 2% iodine and 200mcg of Selenium. I take Vitamin C, magnesium, vitamin D as needed. I use Celtic Sea Salt daily. For a long time I was using 2 T. of extra virgin coconut oil daily, but I have gotten lax about that. We are on well water so I don’t have to worry about the chlorine or fluoride in the water, which apparently can be an issue for some. I eat a pretty good but far from perfect diet. I eat a lot of whole foods but it is not all organic or anything. We eat out some and I love chocolate. :) I try not to worry so much about what I am consuming when out with friends as it is important to me to be able to enjoy times with friends and family without having to stress about food. I think what I eat cheerfully probably is better for my heath than what I don’t eat fearfully, if that makes sense.

That is the short answer…here is a longer version with some other thoughts. Four years ago I was having unquenchable thirst. 20 cups of water a day and I still had a dry mouth. I went to a doctor who tested me for thyroid issues. My thyroid was off and I started to take a low dose of synthroid. My mouth was not dry any more, but I felt awful and my hair was falling out in handfuls. So, I quit synthroid and tried other things. I know the next time I had bloodwork, maybe 6 months later, my thyroid was still off, though I didn’t feel as bad as I had on synthroid. But a year or two later, my bloodwork showed the thyroid to be working. Apparently you can have normal blood numbers and still have a thyroid issue, so I tend to go by how I feel. If I run out of iodine, my dry mouth symptoms return. But it took me a year or two to get the right amount of iodine for me.

So, I wish that this would work for everyone. It seems to work for some. But it seems that everyone is different and there isn’t a one size fits all solution. Some people need to add dessicated thyroid to what they take. Maybe the stuff I am doing only works because of other stuff I am doing and I am unaware of the connection. I do try to walk regularly. I use Apple Cider Vinegar most days. I took Burdock Root for neuropathy for 6 or 12 months. I take 3 capsules of Borage oil daily to help skin issues. Sometimes I take turmeric. Maybe one of those things helps the other stuff to work for me. And but for the grace of God, none of this would work.

If you don’t mind a bit of rambling, I think health is related to things beyond just our intake. I think what we eat is important, but there are so many things that also affect our health. A few years ago I read about a study that linked heart problems and high cholesterol to stress and not to diet. Thousands of years ago, Solomon said that a cheerful heart is good medicine, but a broken spirit dries up the bones. Richard Wurmbrand was a pastor who was imprisoned under dreadfully inhumane conditions with very little and poor quality food, and yet he went on to live quite a long and productive life. God was sustaining him in spite of a horrendous diet and living conditions.

It puzzles me that my children’s health is not identical. They eat the same food, have the same genes, live in the same house. But they recover differently from sickness. One has had some chronic health problems. So, I have to conclude that there is more to it than just supplements and diet. I know people that have “near perfect” diets that still struggle with health problems. I had a friend who had an amazing diet and was so sweet and cheerful and she died of cancer. There are just some things that are beyond our control. (Lots of things, really! )

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble there a little.

Oh, and I am blessed to not yet be dealing with menopause. That will be a whole new set of things to learn about…I am 47, so I am figuring sooner than later. Anyway, I have read a little bit about Dong Quai and Black Cohosh for menopause symptoms and those will be some things I may try when I get to that point.

Well, keep in touch and let me know how you are doing!

~Mama to Many~"

04/06/2014: Lauren from New York, US: "Hi Mama to many.....Thanks a million for your detailed response. You couldn't be more right when you said that sometimes its not just about the diet but many other factors contribute towards illness. I can attest to that cause that's exactly how my life played out....a lot of stress on a daily basis....maybe that's why I can't regain true health. But I am not a quitter...I keep pressing on with the good Lord by my side and hopefully one fine day, I will see the light at the end of the tunnel. Anyways, thank you again for taking the time to answer my query with such detail. I really do appreciate it and yes I will let you know what worked for me if I find something that does.....I heard about a product called Thyrogold that I am thinking of trying cause I don't want to be on medication all my life. Have you heard of this and if so, what are your thoughts? Looking forward to hearing from you, Take care and have a blessed day...."

04/06/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Lauren,

I admire your attitude!

I have never used Thyrogold, not have known anyone to. However, when I read about it online, it seems like something I would try if I were wanting to get off medications and what I was trying was not working. So much of what I have learned has been trial and error on myself.

Have you ever read any of Dr. John Lee's books? I have his book called, "What Your Doctor May not tell you about Premenopause." He also has one for menopause. His writing is somewhat technical, but also interesting and helpful. I mention this because in his Premenopause book, he talks some about thryoid, particularly its relationship to other hormones. The premenopause book is directed towards women in the 30-50 age range and the menopause one for 50 and over. You have obviously done your research and tried many things...there may be a few more "stones to unturn" in his writings.

Keep in touch and God bless.

~Mama to Many~"

04/07/2014: Lauren from New York, US: "Thank you Mama to many....I definitely would check out the books...never thought of that and I am a reader....thanks for that tip...take care and have a blessed day......"

04/14/2014: Ivy from Canada: ""Mama to Many" mentioned she wasn't worried about her water because she has well water. I got sick in 2000 with "fibromyalgia" and had a heavy metal test done and arsenic was high. My test said sources of arsenic were well water or run off from an orchard. Had my well water tested and there was arsenic in it, but the fluoride levels in the water were even worse. My 440 foot deep well had less than a grain of hardness (old well had 55 grains of hardness), so I never thought to get the water tested. Just because it is well water doesn't mean it is safe. Fluoride can be naturally occuring as well as heavy metals. The symptoms of fibromyalgia are the same as chronic fluoride poisoning:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/fluoride-the-cause-of-fibromyalgia-a-3782.html

Ivy"

04/14/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee: "Wow Ivy, thanks for sharing that! It is good to know. It never occurred to me that well water could have flouride in it. I knew what I was dealing with with our water since we had it tested when we moved to our current home. It was orange and we wanted to know what we were dealing with (Turns out it was manganese, which is easily filtered with charcoal.) I should not have assumed that well water in general does not have flouride! I agree that well water is not always safe! Years ago my children were all of a sudden vomiting and had no fever or other symptoms. We finally realized it was when they drank water. We had it tested and it had bacteria in it. We had to treat our well. I guess the moral of the story is that people on well water should get water tests to make sure they know what they are dealing with... Thanks again for the helpful information! ~Mama to Many~"

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Barb: There are hundreds of videos of many people who have recovered from everything eating mostly raw organic fruit and taking 0 supplements. For those who believe in God and have faith in His Goodies, like me, she can follow the 80/10/10 program, like me. The program was begun by a PHD. in the life sciences and the nutritionist to Martina Navratilova. They have many followers all over the world, like me."

04/04/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Barb, investigate vit b12 and vit D deficiency for the Parkinson's and muscle weakness. Steroids deplete B12.

The pharmaceuticals she has taken all her life may have been depleting her of necessary nutrients. See the book "Drug Muggers" to find out more about these drugs in particular.

I suspect that when people have a sudden decline in health and function like your mom, that they are completely tapped out of trace minerals and vitamins."

04/11/2014: Siddavis from Springfield, Mo: "Have you read Grain Brain by Dr. David Perlmutter? Also look up ketogenic diet videos on youtube and watch as many as you can of those by doctors and researchers or do a google search.

Perlmutter's recommendation for neurological degeneration like Alzheimer's, ALS, MS, and Parkinson's is a diet high in saturated fats and extremely low in carbohydrates (ideally 75% saturated fats, 20% protein, and only 5% carbohydrates with the carbohydrates coming only from a few nuts and some greens).

The evidence is that unsaturated fats (seed oils like corn oil, soybean oil, etc.) are a great danger, and lead to cellular damage. This is because unsaturated fats are easily oxidized. This comes from the hydrogen atom next to the double carbon bond in these chains of fat being extremely weak and easily combined with free radicals. And it is no wonder that your mother has thyroid problems because polyunsaturated fats also suppress thyroid function by reacting with iodine at the double carbon bond, thus depriving the thyroid gland of iodine, an essential part of thyroid hormone.

Unlike polyunsaturated fats, saturated fats do not react with iodine. As a matter of fact the way chemists in labs determine if a fat is saturated or unsaturated is to see how much iodine a given amount of fat absorbs.

Carbohydrates break down into blood sugar. A teaspoon of wheat actually has more glucose in it than a teaspoon of table sugar because table sugar is 1/2 glucose and 1/2 fructose. When you ingest carbohydrates, you body produces insulin to bring down glucose presence in your blood because otherwise you would die from too much sugar in your blood as has happened to many type I diabetics over the years. The insulin carries the glucose into your cells to be stored or burned as fuel, but over the years your cells develop resistance to insulin as a protective measure since the repeated high amounts of insulin from eating a diet high in carbohydrates causes cellular inflammation. Type II diabetes is a result of this insulin resistance in cells, and what is being called type III diabetes is that same resistance that develops in nerve cells. In type III diabetes, the nerve cells start to die from the inability to import glucose, and neurological diseases like your mother's degeneration follow.

What a high fat, low carbohydrate diet does is starve your body of glucose, and keeps your blood sugar so low that insulin production is suppressed. To compensate ketone bodies like beta-hydroxybuterate are produced from fats. These are easily absorbed into all your cells for fuel without needing insulin, and are particularly favored by brain cells. Adaptation to burning ketone bodies happens in a very short time (days, not months). You don't need carbohydrates to live as native populations in the Arctic prove since they can't grow plants to eat; however, you would die without fats and proteins. Any glucose your body might need is manufactured in your liver by breaking down the protein in your diet in the process called neoglycogenesis. You will no doubt be told by the poorly informed that ketosis is dangerous. It is not because in nutritional ketosis resulting from a low carbohydrate diet, it is controlled by your bodies continued ability to produce insulin if needed. Diabetics can't produce enough insulin no matter what, so they can go into ketoacidosis which is the uncontrolled production of ketone bodies, which can be fatal to them without insulin injections. If you mother doesn't need insulin injections now, she would have no problem with ketosis.

I can see you would have a big problem getting a nursing home to feed your mom the ketogenic diet she needs. Too many physicians buy into the low fat, high carbohydrate "heart healthy" baloney even though the evidence says they are wrong, and in fact evidence shows the original study that led to the low fat diet fad was scientific fraud at worst or scientific incompetence at best engineered by Ansel Keys in the 1950's.

What your mom should be eating is at least three tablespoons a day of MCT oil (medium chain triglyceride oil) or unrefined organic extra virgin coconut oil which you can get at a good price at Sam's club. She should be eating eggs, bacon, heavy cream, high fat cheeses, fatty steaks, liver, and fatty pork. She should not eat any starchy vegetables, cereals, breads or other grains; no sugars or sweets of any kind; no sodas.

Read the antioxidants that Dr. Permutter recommends and give her those, too.

As for the thyroid issue, like most people she probably doesn't get enough iodine and thyroid deficiency diseases result. You might need to watch her thyroid hormone levels because eliminating polyunsaturated fats will free up some iodine, and she might make more of her own thyroid hormone. She at a minimum should be taking selenium which regulates her own thyroid hormone, and should have as a goal to wean herself from the artificial thyroid hormones she has been prescribed, and replace them with iodine supplements.

if you can find a iodine friendly, ketone friendly doctor, I would say that is about your best shot. If you try this yourself while she is at a nursing home, they might take you to court and force her to eat the garbage they feed at nursing homes.

I personally have done this diet for myself, to address neurological degeneration and lost 70 pounds in the process, a nice side effect. But I read many, many books and research studies, and was not as badly deteriorated as you say is your mother. I take 25 mg of iodine (Iodoral) a day along with 400 mcg of selenium and 500 mg of L-tyrosine in addition to a general health food type vitamin and mineral regimen. I live on about 1,500 kcalories a day with 75% coming from fat, and 20% coming from protein, and I love it. Yum, yum. I avoid doctors but did get my blood work done and all my numbers are well within normal range; the doctor who I went to just scratched his head because being indoctrinated in the faulty wisdom of medical school he couldn't bring himself to believe that a high fat diet was healthful.

All this information is available on the internet if you look hard enough. Good luck."

04/04/2014: Kilee from Ontario, Canada: "Mr Ree from Usa Thank for your suggestion that I try licorice extract for shingles. I am over four months into this , left with the horrible scarring and the nerve pain that just goes on and on. Do you think the licorice extract will still work this late in? If you think so , I will definitely give it a try. thank you , Kilee"

04/04/2014: Mr. Ree from Usa: "For $8.95 it's certainly worth a try...I have always recommended "Natures Answer.' I have not tried other licorice extract...I got rid of my shingles in 3 days about 1 1/2 months after it surfaced...Then beat it twice more when it hit the same day...In one hour! I still have the bottle a couple of years later and it's 1/2 full."

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Kilee,

Re Shingles

You might also consider this: The ongoing nerve pain might be that the virus is still working. That is the virus has not been killed. Look under the Shingles (Ailment Section) on Earth Clinic and you'll see numerous remedies to deal with Shingles.

I have a post there and relate my experience with Shingles. I used a combo of Cayenne and Vitamin E and DMSO and Colloidal Silver as a salve. The CS and Cayenne were used to kill the virus; the E to make sure the Cayenne did not burn the skin and of course the DMSO was the carrier. And it too is anti viral.

Next, consider the possibility that the virus has damaged the nerves. So even if you do kill the virus, some shingles cases continue to hurt because of nerve damage. To help with nerve healing I use "AEP" and it's called Calcium AEP. (NOT just calcium.) The AEP is what you are after. Google; nutrition review calcium AEP. Great article. Dr Robert Adkins used it as primary item in treating his MS patients."

09/21/2013: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Becky from Jefferson Oregon,

Three assumptions and three solutions.

1. The diarrhea would indicate a problem with the gut. So getting beneficial bacteria and HCL on an empty stomach will start healing that part of the problem. Assume a gut flora problem.

2. The only thing that triggers insulin release is sugar, not adrenaline. Somehow he is getting sugar and the pancreas which controls the insulin is acting like he is diabetic. Start tracking his insulin levels, even when he is feeling fine. Assume a sugar problem... Which produces an insulin problem which can send him into the dangerous insulin levels you state... Near ICU territory. Get a glycemic index chart (on line). That index needs to be constantly monitored. 70 percent of this problem might be sugar related. He must get off candy/ ice cream/ sodas/ cakes/ pies. (I know, I know... why bother living if I can't have those things.)

3. You mentioned his toxic smelling sweat. That may be significant. It could be toxic... Coming from a yeast infection (fungus) or virus but sounds more in the realm of fungus... Mold. You said your husband was in construction and often mold can be very present in construction sites... Eg Valley Fever is a mold that can be easily stirred up during wind storms or construction areas, and can travel hundreds of miles. Start him on high levels of Colloidal Silver to kill the infection. So: Assume an infection.

Three assumptions based on your descritption and three solutions.

Now, this is just a start up of where to go. You do have him on ACV... right? To help digestion.

Best, Dave"

09/21/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Becky,

So sorry about your husband's challenges! You mentioned that his sweat smells toxic. He could be dealing with illness from some type of poison. If he has some type of chemical poisoning, it would come out in the sweat. When my husband uses certain paints (he uses a respirator when he has to use them for work) but they still absorb into his skin. Even after showering and changing clothes, I can smell the chemicals coming off of him. I always give him charcoal to help get these toxins out of him. That is something you could try. Charcoal is also good for diarrhea coming from a variety of problems. He could try 2 -3 t. Of activated charcoal water in 8 oz. Of water a couple of times a day. It will adsorb poisons from his body. Just don't take charcoal near when he is taking any other medicine as it can adsorb them as well. If he tolerates this well, I would do it for at least a month.

Dandelion is sometimes recommended for hypoglycemia (he could drink a couple of cups of the tea each day, or take Dandelion Root capsules. ) It is also a good blood purifier.

I would keep cayenne pepper on hand - it is good for shock. If he is unresponsive, you could rub 1/4 t. Cayenne into his gums. This is something that is done for shock and heart attacks.

I saw at least one other post with a number of good ideas for you. I am praying you find the solution for him. Please keep us posted on his progress.

~Mama to Many~"

09/22/2013: Becky from Jefferson, Or: "Thank you Dave. We are basically just starting more research on our own, because Doctors seem to have given up. So I will track all the input I can get. Thanks for all your help."

09/22/2013: Edna from Ca: "I would like to add to the other suggestions : a search on Blood sugar and Magnesium deficiency.

Magnesium 400 mg a day is the RDA for men, anything lower could cause Magnesium Deficiency. Unstable blood sugars is one of the many deficiency symptoms. I hope this supplement could help. Further search is recommended.

From: http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/the-insulin-magnesium-story-2

... "Magnesium is necessary for both the action of insulin and the manufacture of insulin.

Magnesium is a basic building block to life and is present in ionic form throughout the full landscape of human physiology. Without insulin though, magnesium doesn’t get transported from our blood into our cells where it is most needed....""

02/10/2014: Wendy from Calgary, Alberta: "You might want to see if his adrenals are working ok. Hypoglycemia can be linked to adrenal fatigue. Check out Dr. Wilson's book on Adrenal Fatigue."

04/04/2014: Robin from New York: "To Becky from Jefferson. Check your husband's stool for a parasite. Get Hulda Clark's remedies to kill the parasite. The protocol is very easy. If not a parasite check his hormones. Cortisol levels and adrenals could be off and hidden behind the hypoglycemic crashes.

Good luck!

Robin"

10/31/2008: Sim from Gaithersburg, MD: "What mineral supplement were you given?"

07/27/2013: Mary from Illinois: "I need to stop my panic attacks... Any more info on the mineral drops etc would be very helpful. I did a hair mineral test and mine are all mixed ip. Help. Thank you so much!!"

04/04/2014: Pat R from Osceola, Indiana: "Did Wendy from Barrie, Ontario Canada ever write back to let us know what was the concentrated mineral supplement was that she used?"

04/04/2014: Bess from Calgary, Alberta, Canada: "I don't think Wendy from Barrie has responded about the "concentrated mineral supplement" she took.

However, I'm wondering if it is ConcenTrace (you can get it from health food stores, as well as Amazon). The bottle says "full-spectrum body-balanced ionic minerals and trace elements" and states you are to take 10 to 20 drops up to twice a day in water or liquid. Some people have to work up to that level due to the laxative effect it may have on them. People also use it to re-mineralize distilled or reverse-osmosis water.

This product is quite popular so perhaps it's the one she used. Hope that helps! Best of health to you and yours, Bess"

11/30/2011: Lily from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia: "Ally, your Borax dosage is just right. Make sure you take it 4 days on 3 days off. Not everybody has symptoms with borax. Cheers Lily."

12/01/2011: Ally from Jerusalem, Israel: "Hi Lily,

Thanks so much for your response. I am just wondering what it means if it doesn't work for psoriasis -- do I need to increase the dosage? When should I begin to see an effect?

Thank you,

Ally"

[YEA]  04/03/2014: Zevn7tp from Stockton, California: "I've been using 20 Mule Team Borax for a week now with 500mg of Magnesium and I'm almost fully psoriasis free. Dose 1 tsp of Borax in one liter of water to make a concentrate. Then take only 2 tsp of the concentrate and mix it into a glass of water. Drink that with food. I do it at breakfast. Be sure to take a 500 mg magnesium pill with it also, or the Borax WILL NOT activate. Borax alone will do nothing for psoriasis. You have to have the magnesium with it. Hope this works better for you. It's working for me. I'm actually stunned that I've had this stupid psoriasis all these years and it was such a simple fix. Summer time shorts here I come."

04/04/2014: Anthony from Philly Pa: "Hi. I'm gonna try this. Have you had any other issues besides the skin problem? Any digestive problems? Also, do u take this every day? Thank you!"

03/15/2009: Joyce from Joelton, Tn: "Hi Sheila,

The first thing you need to determine is whether or not these high carb meals contain those two excitotoxins called monosodium glutamate (MSG) or aspartame, which are both known to cause cardiac problems. Matter of fact, good old aspartame (Nutrisweet or Equal)
is suspected of causing sudden cardiac death, according to a lot of literature, much of which is available on line.

If you are sure it is allergies, then you might want to google N.A.E.T. which uses accupressure techniques to cure allergies. I have been thinking of looking into this for my own allergy problems. I have read several good comments on EC concerning this one."

03/16/2009: JIM from SHOW LOW, AZ: "YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ALONG THE LINES OF A- FIB [ ATRIAL FIBRILLATION ]

THERE IS A POSTING FROM ONE PERSON , LOOK UNDER AILMENTS , AND THEN UNDER ATRIAL FIBRILLATION, I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED AS HAVING A-FIB , AM TAKING TOPROL XL FOR TWO YEARS NOW DON`T WANT TO STAY ON IT , AM CURRENTLY DOING ACV AND BS ACCORDING TO TED S REMEDIES , IT`S WORKING SO FAR , BEEN ON IT FOR OVER A MO . WHEN YOU GO TO THE ER DO THEY LOAD YOU UP WITH CARDIZEM CD [ GENERIC DILTIAZER CD ] IF SO LOOK A LONG THESE LINES BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY MY A-FIB STARTED, FAST HEART BEAT THEN INTO A-FIB .

WATCH WHAT YOU EAT AND MORE SO THE AMOUNT YOU EAT . TOO MUCH SETS IT OFF EVERY TIME ,,, OVER EATING A NO NO ,,,,"

09/06/2011: Clh Pdl from Pld, Fl: "Rapid Heart Rate after eating,

I have been dealing with this for 6 years now, have had every test in the world, I think that it has something to do with my digestive system, hiatial hernia or kidneys, I don't know for sure but I have been on zebeta for almost 6 years and have had one attempbed ablation. I know that within 20 minutes of eating certain foods and they are random foods that my heart will race to over 200 beats per minute and then I call the ambulance with gives me adenosine IV to slow it back down. I have spent so much money on hospitals and doctors between me and the insurance company and still don't know what causes it.

I know that I can not eat anything with MSG, I can't eat pork, I can't eat hot dogs, I will get this bump and then the racing starts. I did two weeks ago try a remedy I got off of earth clinic when my heart started racing it was at 176 by time I got to the ice machine, but I put both my wrist in the ice and put in on my face and it started going down immediately, but I know that I will not always have ice around. They want me to do another ablation next month, still debating, but I am also tired of the heart racing. I have been on the stricktist diet in the world for the last 6 years, but, no anything good, just all healthy, It does not seem to matter, when the racing wants to come, it comes. I, after 6 years decided I wanted a rootbear float. Have not had anything carbinated for 10 years, it actually helped, so I have now decided, when I eat something that makes me feel full, even if it is a little bit, I either drink a small amount of sprite or a root bear float and it seems to help with the flutters and bumping. The doctors don't seem to understand when I tell them about the bumping before the heart racing. I don't know if this is what you get but a lot of people do."

09/06/2011: Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand: "Its either a lack of Potasium or magnesium in your diet and its probably both. Start eating bannanas, as thats an easily digestable source of potasium. And get a good multi supplement down you, just to cover all bets. If you do this in a few weeks the symtoms lesson and the stress level goes down. The Human body complies with the definition of 'Machine" (a bio Chemical one. )In that it "elevates effort".. if you dont give the machine what it needs its going to start playing up."

09/07/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia : "I agree with Gavin, it is probably a lack of potassium or magnesium in your body.

When I was getting a fast heart beat a few months ago, I would take some ACV (about 1/8 cup straight) and it would stop almost immediately. I would also take some cayenne pepper in a hot tea like drink.

Also Blackstrap unsulphured molasses is high in potassium and magnesium. You could also take epson salt baths (magnesium sulphate) or swim in the sea (high magnesium amongst all the other minerals).

I was taking high dose Vitamin C at the time so I am thinking it was depleting my minerals at the time.

Also I read recently people having anxiety attacks (fast heartbeat etc. ) stopped their attacks by having a COLD shower.

Colloidal minerals should help you as well rather than trying to pick and choose certain minerals. There may be some lacking that you are not aware of."

11/27/2012: Clh from Pdl: "TED DO YOU KNOW HOW TO TREAT THIS. I have been dealing with Tachycardia since 2006, I told my doc's all along it would happen after I ate something, I eliminated lots of things from my diet, I have six years of test, my heart beats would go over 240bpms and I would have to call the ambulance to get them down. I just recently had an ablation, which stoped them from going over 200 bpms so far, however, I did come across a syndrome, called Roemheld Syndrome - Gastro-cardiac Syndrome, however I cannot find a doctor that tests for it where I live. It was discovered by Roemheld syndrome (RS), also known as Roemheld-Techlenburg-Ceconi-Syndrome or gastric-cardia, is a complex of gastrocardiac symptoms first described by Ludwig Roemheld (1871-1938). It is a syndrome where maladies in the gastrointestinal tract or abdomen trigger/cause cardiac symptoms. There is rarely a traceable cardiac source to the symptoms which may lead to a lengthy period of misdiagnosis.

If the heart rate drops too low for too long, catecholamines are released to counteract any lowering of blood pressure. Catecholamines bind to alpha receptors and beta receptors, decreasing vasodilation and increasing contractility of the heart. Sustaining this state causes heart fatigue which results in fatigue and chest pain. I found a doctor on line, but I'm not sure what country she is in. I think it is Canada-here is part of her article on this.

Gastro-cardiac Syndrome – What is it?

By: Dr. Margret Holland, B. Sc. , N.D.

Patients will often come in with a list of symptoms that may include: belching, nausea, heart burn, racing heart, irregular heart beats and/or changes in blood pressure. It is easy to see that some of these symptoms may be related to stomach function whereas others are more related to the heart.

Gastro-cardiac syndrome explains how both of these may actually be intertwined. The vagus nerve innervates both the stomach and the heart and irritation of this nerve can result in abnormal function of both of these organs at the same time.

Another possible etiology for Gastro-cardiac syndrome is through direct irritation of the heart via the diaphragm. If the stomach is not functioning properly, gas may develop, if not released; this gas may actually cause the stomach to slightly displace upwards, putting pressure on the diaphragm. This pressure then refers up onto the heart causing it to change position slightly. Any shifts in the heart's position can result in symptoms such as those mentioned above.

If you suffer from a list of complaints that include both the stomach and heart, you may wish to consider the possibility of this syndrome before beginning a regime of medications."

04/04/2014: Pat R from Osceola, In: "I have also noticed a connection between my stomach, just the act of eating or even sometimes drinking water, and tachycardia (SVT I think). What would one do if they had the gastric - cardiac syndrome mentioned by Dr. Margret Holland? When I mentioned this connection before to my doctors, they just ignored it. I am so tired of my life as it is right now, I want to get better but do not know what to do."

04/05/2014: Mr. Ree from Usa: "Get some pure magnesium powder and take 1/4 teaspoon 3 times a day with meals and 1/2 teaspoon before bed...Don't take any other kind of magnesium. If your heart starts to race any time during the day drink a glass of ice water in hard heavy gulps.It will stop the racing immediately...Also a glass of water with 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt stirred in will stop the racing before you finiish the glass.."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Barb: There are hundreds of videos of many people who have recovered from everything eating mostly raw organic fruit and taking 0 supplements. For those who believe in God and have faith in His Goodies, like me, she can follow the 80/10/10 program, like me. The program was begun by a PHD. in the life sciences and the nutritionist to Martina Navratilova. They have many followers all over the world, like me."

04/04/2014: Nanowriter from Hotspot, Texas: "Barb, investigate vit b12 and vit D deficiency for the Parkinson's and muscle weakness. Steroids deplete B12.

The pharmaceuticals she has taken all her life may have been depleting her of necessary nutrients. See the book "Drug Muggers" to find out more about these drugs in particular.

I suspect that when people have a sudden decline in health and function like your mom, that they are completely tapped out of trace minerals and vitamins."

04/11/2014: Siddavis from Springfield, Mo: "Have you read Grain Brain by Dr. David Perlmutter? Also look up ketogenic diet videos on youtube and watch as many as you can of those by doctors and researchers or do a google search.

Perlmutter's recommendation for neurological degeneration like Alzheimer's, ALS, MS, and Parkinson's is a diet high in saturated fats and extremely low in carbohydrates (ideally 75% saturated fats, 20% protein, and only 5% carbohydrates with the carbohydrates coming only from a few nuts and some greens).

The evidence is that unsaturated fats (seed oils like corn oil, soybean oil, etc.) are a great danger, and lead to cellular damage. This is because unsaturated fats are easily oxidized. This comes from the hydrogen atom next to the double carbon bond in these chains of fat being extremely weak and easily combined with free radicals. And it is no wonder that your mother has thyroid problems because polyunsaturated fats also suppress thyroid function by reacting with iodine at the double carbon bond, thus depriving the thyroid gland of iodine, an essential part of thyroid hormone.

Unlike polyunsaturated fats, saturated fats do not react with iodine. As a matter of fact the way chemists in labs determine if a fat is saturated or unsaturated is to see how much iodine a given amount of fat absorbs.

Carbohydrates break down into blood sugar. A teaspoon of wheat actually has more glucose in it than a teaspoon of table sugar because table sugar is 1/2 glucose and 1/2 fructose. When you ingest carbohydrates, you body produces insulin to bring down glucose presence in your blood because otherwise you would die from too much sugar in your blood as has happened to many type I diabetics over the years. The insulin carries the glucose into your cells to be stored or burned as fuel, but over the years your cells develop resistance to insulin as a protective measure since the repeated high amounts of insulin from eating a diet high in carbohydrates causes cellular inflammation. Type II diabetes is a result of this insulin resistance in cells, and what is being called type III diabetes is that same resistance that develops in nerve cells. In type III diabetes, the nerve cells start to die from the inability to import glucose, and neurological diseases like your mother's degeneration follow.

What a high fat, low carbohydrate diet does is starve your body of glucose, and keeps your blood sugar so low that insulin production is suppressed. To compensate ketone bodies like beta-hydroxybuterate are produced from fats. These are easily absorbed into all your cells for fuel without needing insulin, and are particularly favored by brain cells. Adaptation to burning ketone bodies happens in a very short time (days, not months). You don't need carbohydrates to live as native populations in the Arctic prove since they can't grow plants to eat; however, you would die without fats and proteins. Any glucose your body might need is manufactured in your liver by breaking down the protein in your diet in the process called neoglycogenesis. You will no doubt be told by the poorly informed that ketosis is dangerous. It is not because in nutritional ketosis resulting from a low carbohydrate diet, it is controlled by your bodies continued ability to produce insulin if needed. Diabetics can't produce enough insulin no matter what, so they can go into ketoacidosis which is the uncontrolled production of ketone bodies, which can be fatal to them without insulin injections. If you mother doesn't need insulin injections now, she would have no problem with ketosis.

I can see you would have a big problem getting a nursing home to feed your mom the ketogenic diet she needs. Too many physicians buy into the low fat, high carbohydrate "heart healthy" baloney even though the evidence says they are wrong, and in fact evidence shows the original study that led to the low fat diet fad was scientific fraud at worst or scientific incompetence at best engineered by Ansel Keys in the 1950's.

What your mom should be eating is at least three tablespoons a day of MCT oil (medium chain triglyceride oil) or unrefined organic extra virgin coconut oil which you can get at a good price at Sam's club. She should be eating eggs, bacon, heavy cream, high fat cheeses, fatty steaks, liver, and fatty pork. She should not eat any starchy vegetables, cereals, breads or other grains; no sugars or sweets of any kind; no sodas.

Read the antioxidants that Dr. Permutter recommends and give her those, too.

As for the thyroid issue, like most people she probably doesn't get enough iodine and thyroid deficiency diseases result. You might need to watch her thyroid hormone levels because eliminating polyunsaturated fats will free up some iodine, and she might make more of her own thyroid hormone. She at a minimum should be taking selenium which regulates her own thyroid hormone, and should have as a goal to wean herself from the artificial thyroid hormones she has been prescribed, and replace them with iodine supplements.

if you can find a iodine friendly, ketone friendly doctor, I would say that is about your best shot. If you try this yourself while she is at a nursing home, they might take you to court and force her to eat the garbage they feed at nursing homes.

I personally have done this diet for myself, to address neurological degeneration and lost 70 pounds in the process, a nice side effect. But I read many, many books and research studies, and was not as badly deteriorated as you say is your mother. I take 25 mg of iodine (Iodoral) a day along with 400 mcg of selenium and 500 mg of L-tyrosine in addition to a general health food type vitamin and mineral regimen. I live on about 1,500 kcalories a day with 75% coming from fat, and 20% coming from protein, and I love it. Yum, yum. I avoid doctors but did get my blood work done and all my numbers are well within normal range; the doctor who I went to just scratched his head because being indoctrinated in the faulty wisdom of medical school he couldn't bring himself to believe that a high fat diet was healthful.

All this information is available on the internet if you look hard enough. Good luck."

EC: Brewer's yeast was recommended as a preventative for black flies. Do not know if it would work with fleas.

http://earthclinic.com/CURES/insect_bite.html#BYR

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Oceanman58: Wondercide."

[YEA]  04/04/2014: Sonia from London, Uk: "Thank you so much for this remedy. It has helped me so much. I simply boiled a tea bag in some water let it cool until it was warmish. Put a Cotton wool in it and cleaned my sons eye with it about every hour until the redness reduced in both eyes. And it's working so well. He's almost 2 and I needed something quick and natural to soothe his eyes. Thank you!!"

01/10/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Denise...Supplementing Turpentine has the effect of cleansing the bowels and purifying the blood. I have never read any research where turpentine has ever caused damage to nerves. The neuropathy problem that you mention is usually normally caused by the Hepatitis C virus.

The symptoms you might experience are a wooziness and drowsiness when you take too much turpentine because turpentine also has a sedative effect. Turpentine also can have a laxative effect, but I have only ever experienced a slight loosening of the stools when I took 2 tspns of turpentine in one go(double the normal dose). And if there is any ongoing disease in the blood or bowels, such as Hepatitis C, then you may well get a Herx or die-off reaction as well.

You can also take turpentine baths if you wish. Add one or two small shot glasses of turpentine into the bath and stay in the bath for about 1/2 hour. The iso-penenes in turpentine, the main beneficial ingredients, are also easily absorbed through the skin.

For interests sake, and to allay any fears, medical doctors commonly used and recommended internal teaspoon dosages of turpentine in the past.

Here are some examples of older turpentine usage and dosages:

The Physiomedical Dispensatory 1869 - Turpentine Usage

The US Dispensatory 1918 - Turpentine Properties

British Pharmaceutical Codex -- Turpentine"

01/12/2014: Denise from Seattle: "Hello Bill from the Phillipines, You said in a reply that it was likely my hep-c that caused my peripheral neuropathy...I've been treating my peripheral neuropathy with everything on this site and more with no results...So the safe assumption is I'm going at it all wrong...I should be attacking the source which is the hep-c...Are we in agreement with this...Thank you much.."

01/12/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Denise...Generally, nueropathy problems are fairly commonplace with Hepatitis C patients. This is called Cryoglobulinemia and results from the immune system cryoglubulins "globbing" in the blood vessels and causing inflammation affecting the nerves.

Regarding your more recent post, it is unfortunate that you have had such a reaction to the turpentine from taking such small drop dosages. Turpentine also has mild diuretic action, which means that it expels water and minerals from the body. Normally this does not cause problems(from my own experience), but if your main electrolytes(calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium) are out of balance then cramping in the body will occur. Lack of magnesium and/or potassium in the body are favourites for causing cramp.

Turpentine is also a wide-action pathogen killer. When pathogens are killed in high numbers then poisons will be released from the destroyed pathogens that can also give added or increased symptoms which can be severe. This is called the Herx effect. Furthermore, if your liver is weak or insufficient and has difficulty clearing these poisons then this may also give other added symptoms.

I must also add that turpentine acts to expel xenobiotics -- it will remove any synthetic drug or poison which the body does not recognize. This would also put a strain on the liver. I have no idea whether you are taking synthetic ribovarin or interferon, but turpentine may well act to also expel them from the body. So, if you are also taking these drugs, then you should not be taking the turpentine.

Perhaps you should investigate Oscar's BHT Remedy or Ted's Lysine, Threonine and Vitamin C remedies for Hepatitis C. These options should not generally give you such severe problems."

01/12/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Bill, you really got me confused now. I'm taking 2 prescription drugs while on my anti-candida protocol with the turpentine. Are you now saying that people on drugs/xenobiotics shouldn't be taking turpentine? Maybe I'm not full getting what you're saying.

Please clear this up for me. If this is the case, then no wonder my detox symptoms were going so bad on me. Maybe I'm thinking wrong though! Thanks!"

01/13/2014: Denise from Seattle: "I had a test for cryogobulins 2 months ago and everything was fine according to my PCP...He said I have no inflamation...I take 900 mgs magnesium malate a day and many other supplements..The brand name is Homco gum turpentine....I am currently taking a gram of Vit c an hour to flush out the turp. I take NO drugs at all. I read on the web that the herx effect is bogus...It was made up by dr'd to cover themselves when a person gets a reaction to a drug they prescribes...Google it and see...Also I am not a diabetic...I got hep-c from a car accident in 1969 and had a blood transfusion of one unit..Everything was fine until they discovered I had hep-c in 2003 and they talked me into a liver biopsy..I later found out that my enzymes were 35 and 41..Then after the biopsy my enzymes shot up to mid 300 range...and the trouble began......Someone told me "They woke up the virus.""

01/13/2014: Denise from Seattle: "Forgot...I'm also taking 1000 mgs of lysine five hours in a row every day to get back to where I was. NO ibuprophen as it raises my enzymes...Even 200 mgs will raise them...Ted's remedy.."

01/13/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Tony....Turpentine/Kerosene both act as a diuretic and they expel xenobiotics. They generally function to cleanse the intestines and purify the blood.

Here are some testimonials from Eastern Europe on the use of Kerosene and what it helps to cure (including high blood pressure):

Kerosene Testimonials

Contra-indications between natural nutrients and drugs is always a problem. But whereas natural remedies tend to treat the core reasons for disease, drugs for chronic diseases are generally always palliative -- they only ever treat the symptoms.

What I'm saying here is that although these medical drugs might make you feel better, they do not treat the core reasons for you problems -- especially for heart disease and depression. So, if you continue to use these drugs, then further down the timeline these conditions are bound to get worse(because drugs do not treat the core reason -- they do not cure) and you will have to buy more and more drugs which fits the business profit model of the drugs companies perfectly.

In terms of drugs for serious chronic diseases, since a cure is generally out of the picture, we are not really patients -- we are just consumers. "

01/13/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Thanks Bill for the explanation. I thought you were originally saying that turpentine wasn't supposed to be taken at all with drugs. I already understood how bad drugs are for the body & they don't provide a cure. My main concern was mixing the turpentine with drugs & thinking it would create a possible fatal reaction. Thanks & God Bless!"

04/04/2014: Josh1875 from Ft Worth, Texas: "I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why everytime I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable"

04/04/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Josh1875...A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water(and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.

Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.

Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research."

07/29/2013: Mike Giller from Denver, Colorado: "Ayurveda and homeopathy are very potent. They provide vitamins, minerals, and phytochemicals. The problem is somewhere else. Every day cells are dividing, replacing old tissues with new tissues. These new tissues require 4 oils and 26 amino acids. These substances need to be bioactive. They can be denatured through improper growing and processeing of the food. The electromagnetism needs to have a pure frequency and high vibrational energy. This requires eating the best foods the right way. For the oils take 1 tsp. Flax oil and 1 tsp. organic coconut oil 4 times a day. For all the amino acids and many vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients, take a combination of hawaiin spirulina, chlorella, nondefatted dessicated liver, raw organic cocoa powder, non gmo red miso, nondenatured microfiltered whey protein isolate, and freeze dried organic coconut water powder. For carbs take organic sucanet, raw honey, and raw organic dried fruit."

07/29/2013: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Shrishti, A couple of things come to mind... If he is having any constipation at all, this is going to increase his pain and cause more trouble. A diet high in fruits and vegetables, prunes, blackstrap molasses (1 T. twice a day) is important. Dairy products can be constipating and ought to be avoided.

A comfrey salve might heal the fissure. It promotes rapid cell growth and healing. If you had access to comfrey leaves, you could crush the fresh leaves and place one over the fissure for 20 minutes a couple of hours a day.

Manuka honey or raw local honey is also something that is used to heal wounds very successfully.

Honey and comfrey could both be used safely together. If you could get comfrey root powder, you could mix it with the honey and use it like a salve. (Would be messy... but worth it.)

Charcoal poultices have also been used very successfully to heal wounds. Mix 1 part activated charcoal powder, 1 part ground flax seed (optional, but very helpful) in a bowl and add water and slowly stir until it is a gel-like consistency. Place a spoonful into a quarter of a paper towel. (You can make up many at once. ) Fold paper towel over the charcoal. Now the charcoal is surrounded by paper towel. Place the poultice over the fissure. (One layer of towel between fissure and charcoal. Store extra poultices in a baggie in the fridge. They stay good for a couple of weeks. ) Use this for 30 minutes 2-3 times a day or more if you like. It can be used overnight. If the poultice dries out, the charcoal isn't active any more. This may also help the pain. This can be used with the above safely, also. I might even try the charcoal first.

Plantain tea sitz baths, 30 minutes twice a day, is another option.

Extra Virgin Coconut Oil is good for the skin and for constipation. 1 T. twice a day, internally, is a good idea.

You could try any or all of the above. So sorry he is suffering like this. Let us know what helps him.

~Mama to Many~"

07/29/2013: Ed2010 from Canada: "Hello Shristi, Comfrey is good, but it is tough to get in Delhi.

If you could get noni juice it will be very helpful. In fact, noni grows in southern india too but the fruits are smaller size than Hawaiian noni. Take 30ml of noni juice daily. Noni juice is a detoxer and it softens the stools and eases the bowel movement. It will also strengthen the anal blood vessels. This will slowly heal the anal fissure.

I also recommend to use Indian Style Squat Toilet not the american sitting toilet. Indian style squat toilet aligns your body for natural bowel movement thereby reducing the pressure in the anal region. Preventing Piles or anal fissures.

Also for the ulcer, apply wheat grass juice which is a potent healer.

Good Health"

07/29/2013: Barb from Phoenix, Az : "From my experience, I have to be extremely careful of what kind of toilet paper I use. I use only Northern because it does not irritate my skin. And I now use some kind of moist wipe after a BM and not toilet paper and it has helped so much to reduce the anal fissures for me."

07/30/2013: Timh from Ky, Usa: "Some Vit-A and E internally will help. Cod Liver Oil applied topically on affected area will help."

07/30/2013: Kt from Usa: "There is a vitamin ointment (I don't think I can give a name here) that contains lanolin and is sold at drug stores. I purchase the generic brand and it works well for us. I would also recommend using witch hazel to finish cleaning first."

07/30/2013: Gavin from Northland, New Zealand: "The thing about anal fissures are that they were a boil that started around the anus, and then bored a hole into the anal canal. If you take a teaspoon of cayenne, sprinkled on your food, and then wait for a BM. Take note if their is mild burning during and after the BM. If there is then the amount is correct (if not up the dose a bit until it burns), and the active cayenne is cleaning out the infection, on the outside use the Virgin coconut oil, as it seems to be more active in that area, and keep the Staph and fungus in check."

04/04/2014: Mardi from Australia: "Hope my experiences will help someone. I had chronic anal fissures which my doctor suggested to look at surgery and also a extremely bad heamorriod episode . It took awhile to get them healed and had to have antibiotics to help the heamorriods issue. I used Chlorophyll 30mls daily after this episode. Its now been 2 years and I have continued to take Chlorophyll with good success. My Fissues have settled and have had no real problems since. Ive noticed someone said to also use Coconut Oil. That's great too as it is a great product for any viral bacterial or fungus problems and a good healer to use internally and externally. Love the product but make sure it's the organic kind. So good for the skin and this comes from personal experience. Good luck to you. hope you will be ok."

04/04/2014: Catootje from Netherlands: "Not sure if above statement is true? I thought ACV depletes the body from iodine?"

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Robert Henry, 'ol buddy;

Re: all your problems

First: Cordical Atrophy of both kidneys.

Second: Edema of the legs.

Third: Crushed vertebra.

The cordical is the cortex or the outer layer and is usually associated with the brain but can also relate to kidney. So the MRI showed the outer area of both kidneys is atrophying. Dangerous and potentially lethal as I'm sure the MDs have told you.

The Edema is the big clue that tells us the cause of the atrophy. I have a 91 year old pal who takes lots of nutritional stuff and has for 40 years. I went to see him in the assisted care facility and there he was ... laid up with special wrappings around his legs... legs lifted; Edema.

What is going on, I asked him. With all the great nutritionals you swallow why should you have a circulation problem? And after talking to him, that was just about the only problem he had. His mind is still sharp; he looks good (outnumbered 7 to 1 female to male residents he is the center of attention at the Saturday night "events" there at the Facility).

But I digress.

I insisted on reviewing his nutrient inventory. Mercy. He takes more pills than I do, and I take 40 or so a day.

HOWEVER, the one I was looking for, and there were some exotic ones in his "box" was missing.

What, dear reader, will facilitate the bloods circulation more than any other?

What, is the greatest cause of Edema? Circulatory insufficiency. And as to the previous question...what will facilitate blood circulation, and vein and arterial dilation, and elimination of inflammation that can restrict circulation and even plaque removal which certainly will cause Edema...

I am sure the astute reader and you, Robert Henry, know the answer to this question. But do you know what? My old friend, the one in the nursing home was not, I say NOT taking that fundamental...absolutely bottom line essential vitamin. And literally, within 10 days of adding that ONE nutrient to his regimen he was nearly Edema free.

And...and...watch this: Lack of blood flow as evidenced by the Edema MIGHT also be the cause of the atrophying kidneys. May Be....

THE KEY is NATURAL VITAMIN E....Lack of proper circulation is killing you. It can only help in your recovery of the vertebra. If surgery, E can help the healing.

The Doctors "Shute"... brothers... and Canadian physicians back in the 50s were talking about Edema and Vitamin E. Circulation and Vitamin E. Clot removal and Vitamin E.

If this were me, I'd start with 200 IUs daily of Natural E (d alpha tocopherol, and not the dl form which is synthetic). After a few weeks, increase to 400 IUs, and two weeks later same increase and two weeks later same increase. I take 1000 IUs daily and have for ... oh, 30 years or so. And make sure your are taking Magnesium and Arginine. 500 mg of each. (I take 5 thousand mg of Arginine.) Some folks, if facing big circulatory problems will take DMSO cream and mix in Vitamin E and apply topically to the effected areas; goes straight to the site, through the skin. And some folks, if the problem is not resolved, will increase the oral dosage to 2000 IUs.

Robert Henry, you are REALLY smart. Now, try to think of anything else to improve circulation, because (re the kidney) whatever the cause is (Cysts?), the improved circulation on the outside of the Kidney (Cortex = Cortical) will benefit both that problem and the Edema.

Now as many nutrients as you do take, maybe you'll tell me you are taking 1, 000 natural Vitamin E. But if that is the case, then SOMETHING is stopping it from acting. Are you sure it is natural? REALLY synthetic (sure it's cheap) but it won't work. Magnesium? Enhances the E and so does Vitamin C and selenium. Robert Henry, think now; you've helped thousands. You can figure this out. Don't give up.

You are loved and we need you.

And one more thing: Act fast.

Your old pal,

And YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn: "HI U DAVE, , , , , , , you hit it on the head. I take a toe sack full of supplements but do not specifically take Vitamin E , but will get it tomorrow.

Appreciate your counsel and words of encouragement. As you might imagine, I'm pretty low these days and you have given me a lift.

Got the boys coming tomorrow to finish our Bamboo Crappie Condo's. Hope to fill the freezer during the spring spawn.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY======="

04/04/2014: Cindy from Usa: "To Dave: as always enjoy reading your helpful informative posts. This is only a curious question not meant to imply anything-if you follow 80/10/10 diet why 40 pills a day? I take supplements too, don't get me wrong, just wondering what you take? thanks also, is the 80 raw? what are the 10/10.thanks"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hey there Cindy;

Re: Your question in reference to my post to Robert Henry..

First, thank you for the nice compliment. I am such a believer in natural E to ward off cardio and circulation related issues.

Now your question was, I think, what 40 pills do I take and then you asked about the 80/10/10 diet with the 80 being raw.

Well, I am a patient of Dr Nick Gonzales of Manhattan, and he did want me on a more raw diet but classified my metabolic type as "meat eater."

But I don't follow the 80/10/10 even though I should and could even under Dr Gonzales' classification.

I am a terrible sinner. I eat bad things and this is a major fault of mine. Very little exercise (I adhere to the HIIT method...High Intensity Interval Training.) I practice flexibility movements and shadow boxing from the "old days" to keep up agility and speed (or a semblance of it). I practice elementary karate kicks.

And, as mentioned, I take a lot of nutrients. Were, you asking for a list of what I take? Sorry, I wasn't following exactly but just listed my list of what I do and what I shouldn't do.

If you want the list I'll be glad to do so."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Cindy: Dave takes supplements. I follow the 80/10/10 program. The idea behind the program is that raw organic fruit is going to have more energy than in regular food because of the enzymes, humic fulvic acids, xeronines, and trace minerals. We believe this is the best food program. People can eat as much raw organic fruit as they want whenever they want. The only two technical aspects are soaking nuts and seeds for protein and oil and getting the proper ratio of carbs to oil. I would encourage you to try the program."

EC: Brewer's yeast was recommended as a preventative for black flies. Do not know if it would work with fleas.

http://earthclinic.com/CURES/insect_bite.html#BYR

02/27/2009: Jim from Show Low, AZ.: "jack hope this finds you ok , first let me say this is the greatest site thanks e.c. , for all you do , jack i been a long haul driver for about 22 yrs so i know what it takes to be on the road, but here is why i am sending this i live in az where the plant grows wild in fact my wife and i went for a walk this afternoon and picked some of the plant you are talking about, GREAT MULLEN, so i have 2 ? ? , one does it make a difference what time of year the plant is at its best, they are still standing but they are dry, my wife has emphysema, MY SECOND ?

HOW MUCH hyssop and lobelia do you put in the the with great mullein. so thanks for the formula posting on ec. GOD BLESS BE SAFE AND KEEP THE RUBBER SID DOWN JIM"

02/28/2009: Jack from Toledo, OH: "dear jim; i appreciate your understanding as specially as a driver

make sure she no longer smokes or its all in vain....

just as the menu says jim 3 tbls of lobelia and 3 of hyssop my friend god bless and its great to hear from you,

in case you didn't get the address of my supplyer for hyssop and lobelia here's "joe bassett's" health food number "he has it all in "powdered form" 419-531-0334

pls let me know how it turns out or post a reply on earthclinic"

02/25/2010: Valrena from Burlington, Ontario: "Hi Jack, I am one of those smokers you have talked about. I have tried quitting and have been in a depression now over 4 yrs. I am hoping using you formula will help me lose this craving as well.

My question is. You say to put ADD 3 tBLS OF POWERED "LOBELIA", AND ALSO "HYSSOP" . is it tablespoons of hyssop and is that a powder?

1 OZ OF WHITE APPLE CIDER VINEGAR. I am allergic to the reg Apple cider vinegar. Do you think this small amount would hurt??

Pray for me people if this doesn't help me get rid of my cravings for that deadful smoke I don't know what to do. Thanks Jack I am trying.

Valrena"

02/25/2010: Lisa from Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa: "Hi Valrena,

I have never been a smoker but I felt that I should pass this on to you in case you don't know this. Did you know that niacin and nicotine are chemically linked? Niacin used to be called nicotinic acid. There are niacin receptors in the brain and when you quit, they feel deprived from what they were tricked into believing was a nutrient. You can use niacin to help you get past the craving for the nicotine. I have heard this several times but as I said, I am not a smoker so I don't know what that addiction is like. There are also niacin rich foods that you could eat and perhaps that would help too. Olives, cabbage, lettuce, carrots, brewer's yeast, apricots, to name a few. Anyway, I thought this info was worth passing on.

Take care, Lisa"

02/26/2010: Valrena from Burlington, Ontario: "Lisa thank you so much. I will look into it as I don't want to die screaming for a clean breath as Jack said. My Docs were so concerned they told me NOT to quit smoking as I was an emotional basket case. It has now been 5 yrs and I am still not back on track. So any hope is better than none. Thank you and I will let you know how it works. I love this site.

Valrena"

03/03/2010: Jack from Toledo, Ohio: "I'd really like to "emphasize strongly"

once the tea has been made "do not" throw away the roughage that you strain off the tea!

it can be boiled 2-3 times more so your getting enough for 3-4 months if you don't take it all at once.

GB... JACK"

[YEA]  03/05/2010: Gwen from Denver, Colorado: "OMGosh!!!!! Jack you were just on here yesterday! I wish to you MANY BLESSINGS, wealth, health, & prosperity! May God bring all good things & blessing into your life! Thank You!

I'd been going through bad infection since the end of this past January. Started with a very bad abscessed tooth that blew up my face. Took 2 weeks treating holistically to get it down. Got about a week break, then it moved to the other side of my face. Took only 4-5 days to get that controlled. Finally went to the dentist & he put me on antibiotics before he'll pull my teeth. Started that & went into sinusitis, a virus? I'm 60 years old & Wednesday night I had some kind of full blown asthma/bronchitis attack? Never happened before. My neighbor was thankfully there & hit me with an inhaler. I thought I was going to die. It was very scary. My lungs completely shut down! Today my chest was so tight I could hardly move, wasn't sure what to do but pray. Holy Spirit had me remember your recipe I had once read on EC. I had all the herbs, including the Mullein tops I harvested last summer. I whipped up a batch & I am completely cleared up tonight & have the strength to write to let you & everyone know, It Worked! Opens the lungs right up!

Thank you Thank you THANK YOU Jack for passing this along......here's a big ol' hug & lots of love coming your way :)

Gwen"

03/05/2010: Gwen from Denver, Colorado: "P.S.

I forgot to mention for those wondering, I didn't bother, (too miserable), to "powder" the herbs. just used them whole & followed cooking instructions. Worked fine!

May the Blessing of the Living Holy Spirit be with US ALL!

Gwen"

03/06/2010: Gwen from Denver, Colorado: "Hey Jack, Me again. Question, you stress to not throw out the herbs after first use, how do you preserve them until you use them again? Dry out? Freeze? Can't leave them at room temp. as the herbs will grow mold.

Q. 2, do you add more vinegar, cayenne, or anything else into batch #2 & #3?

Q. 3, I'm keeping the batch #1 left over herbs in my frig along with the batch of medicine I made, any other comments? How long does your batch stay potent & safe to use?

Thanks again so much Jack. I know your loving care will help many & you'll be blessed many times over :)

May the blessings of the ONE be with us ALL......

Gwen"

07/07/2010: Bill from Prescott Valley, Arizona: "Marcus, if you find out where to get the mullein pods, can you let me know? Can't find them anywhere. Charcoal will take Benzene out of your body. Send me your e-mail address and I'll send you the writeup on it.

Bill McL"

09/30/2010: Lily from Brooklyn, New York, U.s.a: "Hi... To Jack or Briana or anyone that has successfully created this recipe. Please I need you help. I posted a comment a couple of months ago and did not get a response. I need help. Since my posting my partners mother was rushed to hospital. She is still in the hospital now and very critical. It has been so hard.. We nearly lost her! She is recovering well. But I don't know what the future holds. She has COPD and Emphysema. I really need someones help. Please. Will anyone offer their assistants in helping me put together this recipe. I tried to locate the Mullein pods but I failed. Can I use alternative dried herbs instead of fresh?

Thank you for your time

Please god.. I need your help."

10/12/2010: Marcus from Lake Charles, Louisiana: "In the herb books I have read the flowers are a viable option. I would suggest using these, as they are not the only active ingredients in the concoction. It should work well."

11/08/2010: Marcus from Lake Charles, Louisiana: "When I spoke of flowers, I meant the Muellin flowers. They seem to be one of the more useful parts of the plant. If you are reading this you should be aware that I got my dad (77yo long time smoker) some food grade H2O2 and he uses a sinus pump filled with a 3% solution (inhales it about 12 pumps per day) and his emphysema has all but disappeared in 2 weeks time."

10/29/2013: Hassan from Penang, Malaysia: "Hey there, I believe your Jack I guess,:), I've been reading reviews on mullein leaf tea users have posted here on Earth Clinic, I've been wanting to get some of it for my mom who is currently suffering from emphysema copd and have to stay on oxygen almost all the time, I did order some alvita mullein tea but haven't received the package yet from ebay, and would like to ask in your opinion on it and maybe you have any better suggestion or you yourself are selling some of the tea and maybe could post it to me, I'm actually from Malaysia, any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance and sorry for too many words here due to my anxiety of this remedy... Thanks again, -hassan would like to here from you soon and thanks for ur time I'm sure ur quite busy and mustve got a lit of mails to reply too.. ? Best regards from me and very good work with the site"

10/29/2013: Ed2010 from Canada: "hi Hassan,

When you are buying from Ebay, buy it from a rated seller.

Jack's Tea works for emphysema, copd, bronchitis, cattarah.

I tried it for my bronchitis and it worked like a charm. I tried it without lobelia as I did not get it at that time and used Mulien Leaf not the pods. But still worked. It removes the congestion well and dissolves mucus build up.

You may have to prepare the tea and take till the symptoms subside and continue till you are cured may be 1 month or 2 months .

To buy You can contact http://www.healthyplanetcanada.com... it is a big healthcare store in Toronto, Canada. They do international shipping too call them and place an order. For immediate relief. Try 3% Hydrogen Peroxide Inhallation Method. It clears up the congestion in the 2nd minute. Good Health"

04/04/2014: Raybo from Northern Kentucky: "RE: Jack's Recipe for the tea for COPD Hello Sir, My mother has COPD and is really suffering from the illness. She was Hospitalized with pneumonia in January and nearly died. We are desperate for some kind of help for her. I read the stories on EarthClinic and found your Address there. Please send me the recipe for the tea. I found the following on Amazon.com and Am considering ordering them for her. Will these items work if I use them in Hot water for her? *Omega Nutrition Certified Organic Apple Cider Vinegar *Frontier All Natural Cayenne Pepper Ground *Nature's Answer Lobelia Herb 1 ounce bottle drops *Nature's Answer Mullein Leaf 1 ounce bottle drops *Hyssop Herb I ounce bottle drops or they have it also sifted in 1 lb bag *Manuke Doctor Bio Active 10 Plus Honey 8.75 ounces Can I use the above mentioned to make a good quality tea? We really appreciate your help. I anxiously await your reply. Sincerely, RAYBO"

07/11/2008: Kelley from Graham, Washington,USA: "You say you take 3 TBLS of coconut oil. Can you tell me how you consume it.....is it by spoonful?!"

03/16/2010: Maurice Escargot from Sacramento, Ca: "You say that the coconut oil caused your hair to grow back thicker, your eyebrows to grow back, your hands and feet to warm up, yet you mention it doesn't cure thyroid problems. All these symptoms are for hypothyroidism. Why do you say, then, that coconut oil DOESN'T cure thyroid problems?"

08/29/2012: Robyn from Sydney, Nsw: "I have been taking VCO for the past 5 months. I was a lot of thyroxine - 900mcd a day and I still felt incredibly tired all the time. Through these forums I read that VCO could help with the symptoms of an underactive thyroid so I started taking 1 tbsp a day. I love the taste and quickly increased to 3 tbsp a day. I had SO much energy I had to make sure I took it in the morning so I could get to sleep at night! After 3 months I had my blood done and it turns out the VCO was working so well I had to drop my meds and am back on 100mcg a day. I am an elite athlete so really push body constantly and have kept up with the 3 - 4 tbsp of VCO a day however am much more tired than before. My friend pointed out that whist "Hyper" thyroid I was actually feeling a high! This is the greatest natural thyroid help anyone could ask for. I imagine if you were only slightly hypo it would cure you. I'm wondering if if I increase the dose of VCO again will it help more? I'm scared of negative side effects obviously due to long term use."

[YEA]  04/04/2014: Sasha from San Diego: "I take 1 to 2 tablespoons and I feel much better and take lugol's iodine as well, I weigh 108 plus I'm mostly raw vegetarain but I did cut back and eat a small lite dinner no weight gain from VCO at all. Plus skin and hair look very healthy and my eyes look brighter clearer."

EC: HI Marilyn, thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is a problem that lies with Constant Contact's anti-spam filter. Constant Contact is the company that handles our email subscriptions. We just tested the form and found that if you type in the string of numbers that are being displayed, it will confirm your subscription even though it asks for "two words separated by a space". We have contacted the company to see if they can fix this confusing language. Sorry about that!

03/19/2009: Nicole from Chicago, IL USA: "Chest pain from using coconut oil could actually be a good thing, if it is the feeling of a clogged up lymphatic system starting to drain. This feels like painful, slow-moving lumps."

03/20/2009: Dianne from Orillia, Ontario Canada: "For a sluggish thyroid I use Kelp 660mg x2 and I also have started on Maca 1 tsp daily in your favorite beverage or choice of beverage, I have mine with my morning coffee. Both seem to be working fine. When I used it a few years back, (different reason) it worked well, cleared up the issue plus increased my energy and gave me a new attitude. Works good for mental, emotional wellness too. Good health and Blessings."

07/21/2010: Alimaacd from New Fairfield, Ct: "If you're on thyroid meds and start taking coconut oil regularly and experience heart palps, it could be because the coconut oil is working and you're actually able to reduce your thyroid meds. Myself and others I know were able to go off our thyroid meds completely after going gluten free and addressing other underlying conditions like dysbiosis and dysglycemia."

07/21/2010: Carly from Seattle, Wa Usa: "That is very interesting. . . I am not on thyroid meds but have been taking about 3 tbsp of VCO a day for almost a year and having the heart palps off and on for about the past 3 months. Nothing unbearable but a bit creepy feeling at times. I am wondering if anyone else out there is experiencing this due to the VCO and if there is a solution for it other than stopping the VCO? I love the energy it gives me, and don't want to quit! Thanks~Carly"

07/22/2010: Addy from Flowery Branch, Ga: "I've read previous posts which refer to supplementing with Magnesium when taking CO. I use CO on my skin and hair. . Haven't quite got the nerve yet to ingest it but I do see results. I also get the palpitations and it is a scary feeling."

[SIDE EFFECTS]  06/10/2013: Coconutrisk from Reno, Nv: "I too have been getting chest pains from coconut oil. I have 100% confirmed this several times by eliminating it from my diet then reintroducing it. It is concerning because sometimes it feels like I am having a heart attack. All the healthy stuff that is indicated by taking coconut oil, I am really concerned about the risks.

I have never taken thyroid meds, or any other meds. Just had to changed my diet to veggies fish and some meats over the past year. Coconut oil was helping my diet not be so bland, but despite what I just read on this forum about it possibly being a godo thing, the chest pains don't seem good to me. I'd like more science behind this.

PS: I have also found a few other cases of chest pains with coconut oil from google search."

07/08/2013: Cydrae from Baton Rouge, La - Louisiana: "Although coconut oil has many health benefits, too much of a good thing is usually just that - too much. There is some evidence that VCO decreases gallstones, but overindulgence can have the opposite effect and cause gallbladder pain which mimicks heart attack symptoms. Hope this helps. Good health to all."

04/04/2014: Cononutty from Pdx: "This might be a reason for increased heart rate in some individuals when taking virgin coconut oil, because if it is dried then processed it oil it may have mycotoxins this can cause an allergic reaction...I figure no ones body likes mycotoxins! So please make sure you are buying Organic virgin coconut oil harvested from FRESH coconuts that means it has NO myctotoxins and is safe for consumption."

04/03/2014: Tony from Tn, Usa: "Hello Loiz from Ireland:

I've been using a stand-alone cordyceps as treatment for candida for over 5 months now. I also take a multiple medicinal mushroom formula to go with it. Let me just give you my results.

I do have increased energy levels along with seeing some candida in the toilet. However, cordyceps or any medicinal mushroom formula alone WILL NOT get rid of candida. It takes much much more than that. Have you looked at Bill's candida protocol here at EC? Go to the ailments section and then look for candida.

The key part is getting rid of the biofilms associated with candida. This will take turpentine or Nattokinase to remove the biofilms. Plus, a few other supplements will be needed as well. You can't just use cordyceps alone to get rid of candida overgrowth. I too wished it was this easy but candida are stubborn little boogers. Takes a holistic approach for sure! They are very hard to get rid of from the entire body once they become widespread in growth. Hope you have some success! God Bless!"

[YEA]  04/03/2014: Vannessa from Ecuador: "Hola. Me interesa el consejo sobre celulitis pero no me qued? claro el tipo de cepillo que se usar?a en este caso. Gracias. Vannessa"

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Robert Henry, 'ol buddy;

Re: all your problems

First: Cordical Atrophy of both kidneys.

Second: Edema of the legs.

Third: Crushed vertebra.

The cordical is the cortex or the outer layer and is usually associated with the brain but can also relate to kidney. So the MRI showed the outer area of both kidneys is atrophying. Dangerous and potentially lethal as I'm sure the MDs have told you.

The Edema is the big clue that tells us the cause of the atrophy. I have a 91 year old pal who takes lots of nutritional stuff and has for 40 years. I went to see him in the assisted care facility and there he was ... laid up with special wrappings around his legs... legs lifted; Edema.

What is going on, I asked him. With all the great nutritionals you swallow why should you have a circulation problem? And after talking to him, that was just about the only problem he had. His mind is still sharp; he looks good (outnumbered 7 to 1 female to male residents he is the center of attention at the Saturday night "events" there at the Facility).

But I digress.

I insisted on reviewing his nutrient inventory. Mercy. He takes more pills than I do, and I take 40 or so a day.

HOWEVER, the one I was looking for, and there were some exotic ones in his "box" was missing.

What, dear reader, will facilitate the bloods circulation more than any other?

What, is the greatest cause of Edema? Circulatory insufficiency. And as to the previous question...what will facilitate blood circulation, and vein and arterial dilation, and elimination of inflammation that can restrict circulation and even plaque removal which certainly will cause Edema...

I am sure the astute reader and you, Robert Henry, know the answer to this question. But do you know what? My old friend, the one in the nursing home was not, I say NOT taking that fundamental...absolutely bottom line essential vitamin. And literally, within 10 days of adding that ONE nutrient to his regimen he was nearly Edema free.

And...and...watch this: Lack of blood flow as evidenced by the Edema MIGHT also be the cause of the atrophying kidneys. May Be....

THE KEY is NATURAL VITAMIN E....Lack of proper circulation is killing you. It can only help in your recovery of the vertebra. If surgery, E can help the healing.

The Doctors "Shute"... brothers... and Canadian physicians back in the 50s were talking about Edema and Vitamin E. Circulation and Vitamin E. Clot removal and Vitamin E.

If this were me, I'd start with 200 IUs daily of Natural E (d alpha tocopherol, and not the dl form which is synthetic). After a few weeks, increase to 400 IUs, and two weeks later same increase and two weeks later same increase. I take 1000 IUs daily and have for ... oh, 30 years or so. And make sure your are taking Magnesium and Arginine. 500 mg of each. (I take 5 thousand mg of Arginine.) Some folks, if facing big circulatory problems will take DMSO cream and mix in Vitamin E and apply topically to the effected areas; goes straight to the site, through the skin. And some folks, if the problem is not resolved, will increase the oral dosage to 2000 IUs.

Robert Henry, you are REALLY smart. Now, try to think of anything else to improve circulation, because (re the kidney) whatever the cause is (Cysts?), the improved circulation on the outside of the Kidney (Cortex = Cortical) will benefit both that problem and the Edema.

Now as many nutrients as you do take, maybe you'll tell me you are taking 1, 000 natural Vitamin E. But if that is the case, then SOMETHING is stopping it from acting. Are you sure it is natural? REALLY synthetic (sure it's cheap) but it won't work. Magnesium? Enhances the E and so does Vitamin C and selenium. Robert Henry, think now; you've helped thousands. You can figure this out. Don't give up.

You are loved and we need you.

And one more thing: Act fast.

Your old pal,

And YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Robert Henry from Ten Mile , Tn: "HI U DAVE, , , , , , , you hit it on the head. I take a toe sack full of supplements but do not specifically take Vitamin E , but will get it tomorrow.

Appreciate your counsel and words of encouragement. As you might imagine, I'm pretty low these days and you have given me a lift.

Got the boys coming tomorrow to finish our Bamboo Crappie Condo's. Hope to fill the freezer during the spring spawn.

=====OLE ROBERT HENRY======="

04/04/2014: Cindy from Usa: "To Dave: as always enjoy reading your helpful informative posts. This is only a curious question not meant to imply anything-if you follow 80/10/10 diet why 40 pills a day? I take supplements too, don't get me wrong, just wondering what you take? thanks also, is the 80 raw? what are the 10/10.thanks"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hey there Cindy;

Re: Your question in reference to my post to Robert Henry..

First, thank you for the nice compliment. I am such a believer in natural E to ward off cardio and circulation related issues.

Now your question was, I think, what 40 pills do I take and then you asked about the 80/10/10 diet with the 80 being raw.

Well, I am a patient of Dr Nick Gonzales of Manhattan, and he did want me on a more raw diet but classified my metabolic type as "meat eater."

But I don't follow the 80/10/10 even though I should and could even under Dr Gonzales' classification.

I am a terrible sinner. I eat bad things and this is a major fault of mine. Very little exercise (I adhere to the HIIT method...High Intensity Interval Training.) I practice flexibility movements and shadow boxing from the "old days" to keep up agility and speed (or a semblance of it). I practice elementary karate kicks.

And, as mentioned, I take a lot of nutrients. Were, you asking for a list of what I take? Sorry, I wasn't following exactly but just listed my list of what I do and what I shouldn't do.

If you want the list I'll be glad to do so."

04/04/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Cindy: Dave takes supplements. I follow the 80/10/10 program. The idea behind the program is that raw organic fruit is going to have more energy than in regular food because of the enzymes, humic fulvic acids, xeronines, and trace minerals. We believe this is the best food program. People can eat as much raw organic fruit as they want whenever they want. The only two technical aspects are soaking nuts and seeds for protein and oil and getting the proper ratio of carbs to oil. I would encourage you to try the program."

04/02/2014: Ed2010 from Canada: "The enzyme of papaya is papain not pepsin. Papain is a protein digesting enzyme. And papaya incerases digestion by stimulating the pancreas, Rich in Vitamin A. Dry papaya chunks are used as meat tenderizer by chefs.

Papaya is a Heat Producing fruit. Traditional varieties are more sweet than the hybrid varieties. Hybrids and GMO's have changed the medicinal properties of many foods.

Good Health"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Thanks for the excellent explanation that encouraged me to try the remedy. I feel better. All us ordinary folk here in Rocky Mountain High think you are an enlightened knowledgeable wise man."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mike, my friend;

Re Papaya....

Tonight I ate a "hot" soup prepared by my Indian friend from Malaysia for my wife and me. "Hot" as in spicy. Normally, that kind of hot would cause some skin irritation, but having little will power in culinary matters, I consumed a big bowl anyway. And to counter the inevitable irritation, a few minutes later, I ate three or four bites of Papaya, cool and soothing. Now, 40 minutes later, I feel no irritation at all and by now I certainly would have. So....another Papaya story.

And thank you for the compliment about my standing among the "illuminati" at "Rocky Mountain High"!!!!

YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Ed from Canada;

Re Papaya enzyme...

Thank you so much for the correction; "Papain" is the dominate enzyme.

Another experiment with Papaya:

Tonight I used some chopped up Papaya in a mix of ice cream (butter pecan) and Greek yogurt...then refroze. Turned out to be a nice "ad lib" concoction. Creamier than normal ice cream and the Papaya didn't overpower the taste of either the yogurt or the ice cream. And the real purpose of the Papaya was to make the rich creamy desert digestible...so I am not "hit" with an attack of reflux. We'll see. If I had not put Papaya with such a cream/milk based mix...unless I downed a lot of ACV before bed...reflux would be likely.

So I continue to test the limits of Papaya in digestive matters. I didn't eat the black seeds tonight so I am wondering whether that will influence the "test." I intentionally won't take ACV this evening just to push the "digestive" envelope.

Now some "critic" may suggest that I'm doing this "ice cream test" as a ploy, a mere excuse to eat ice cream.

How could such a hypothetical critic, such as my wife, think such a thing.

I am wanting to see the digestive limits of Papaya. And that is all.

However, I may have to test the Papaya digestive limits with various ice cream flavors...chocolate (with Papaya), strawberry (with Papaya) etc.

Just as a test, mind you.

For purely scientific purposes.

Yes, I am willing to sacrifice myself in such a "test"... for all to know the benefits. Will report back the results six pounds from now...ah....six days from now.

Big Dave from Fountain Inn"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Wow, your sacrifice for the sake of science and humanity will be remembered and appreciated by many!

Let me know if you find that Papaya makes chocolate chip mint ice cream more digestible.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~"

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mama to Many;

Re Papaya and Ice Cream...

I'd forgotten about Chocolate Chip Mint Ice Cream!!! That most certainly will be added to the list. So far, with the CCMIC, I've got seven to test.

Wow. This is hard work."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mama to Many and anyone interested in the Papaya experiments;

Update; I continue to attempt dietary suicide by consuming ALLLL the foods that I KNOW will kill me.

Well, perhaps this is hyperbolae. "Exaggeration for the sake of effect"...otherwise known as a "lie" is OK if it has literary value. So says some philosopher of ethics I read one time. Can't recall who. But some philosopher must have said it at some point in time because philosophers say most everything.

Back to the point: Certain foods will cause me terrific problems; too much creamy stuff, too much coffee and red meat and for SURE; Reflux. I mean for sure.

ANY salsa and for sure, skin irritation is immediate; especially back of scalp...and burning eyes.

That scalp condition has been a reaction since I was a child and the reflux developed ten years ago.

Well, I have indulged; And my wife, intrigued at my new attempt at such an "adventurous" life style, her elbow on kitchen counter, head in palm of her hand just gazing at me as I stuff chip after chip laden with hot salsa into my burning mouth.

"What?" I ask as bits of salsa fall over my reddened lip.

"Just watching. And waiting. I have the phone ready to call 911."

"Very funny." I gulp down the twentieth chip. I choke a bit but recover.

"Push that bowl of Papaya and Mango over here. You're not getting the insurance money that easily, love. Watch this."

And with that, I down eight soothing...cooling spoonfuls of the blend of one Papaya and three much smaller Mangos, blended and then strained to make a thick, beautiful orange/yellow "soup." I do not dilute; just using a spoon I consume letting the mild, mellow liquid soak into my mouth before swallowing.

"There. Saved."

"We'll see." And she continued to stare at me.

I neither died NOR broke out in the slightest rash.

And as a further "update" I tried to induce Reflux by downing a huge container of Coffee ice cream. ALL for the sake of science; followed by Papaya again. (Mama to Many...you alone seem to understand the sacrifice involved ... bless you.)

No Reflux. Yet.

There has to be some point of excess that the Papaya can't overcome and I am determined, for the sake of science, to find THAT POINT.

AND; I have ONLY gained two pounds in this .... this experiment... thus far.

I am only doing this for you...dear EC readers. Testing the limits..." boldly going where no man has gone before..." Some philosopher said that too. Plato I do believe. Maybe Wittgenstein. The Later Wittgenstein.

And if that point...which I spoke of is reached...over some bowl of forbidden flavors, don't be surprised if my wife, newly attired in the finest of apparel, holds a series of "appreciation" events at a few selected sites...

And don't feel sorry for her. She'll be traveling around the globe for a while; overcoming her grief and looking for new "remedies" out of love and respect for her deceased husband; who died while looking for solutions to ailments...only trying to help those hurting."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Papaya make my desiccated liver taste better."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mike 62;

Re Desiccated Liver plus Papaya...

Mike...you just a star!

Wow...who would have thunk...Desiccated Liver- and Papaya making it taste better!

The only way to improve even that would be to make it into an ice cream.

We'd call it....

"Mike 62 Desiccated Liver Papaya Ice Cream Explosion"...

But hold on...before I rev up on the marketing campaign...you operate off very strict dietary rules if I recall. Does ice cream fit within those bounds? Maybe we use Almond Milk."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: I am not a perfectionist. I don't eat perfectly all the time. You could try Mike's mountain mush. Three of the ingredients are dairy. Mix papaya, non denatured whey, colostrum, and sour cream together. This would taste like yogurt because of the sour cream."

04/11/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver

What is dessicated Liver? I don't eat red meat .. don't like the taste of it.

So you eat 80 percent raw ... I try that but its pretty challenging but do the best I can..what do you eat cooked?"

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...My congratulations to you on your experiment with papaya. A brave man indeed!!

However, I've got to say that I think that papaya had very little to do with your ability to eat those bad foods without problems. I'll try and explain why.

First, have a look at this link which is something I've quickly written that helps to explain how stomach acid and duodenal digestion or Main Stage Digestion are so crucially linked:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6bKkuZlS7-Q_-bTJk1sU_cvNRSQr8_WM91FJ7jIvR4/edit?usp=sharing

What saved your bacon was probably the lime juice in the salsa -- which raised your low stomach acid and triggered all your proper enzymes in the duodenum for main stage digestion -- such amylase, lipase, lactase, tripsin etc.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

* Papaya contains papain -- which can only digest proteins.

* So how was your digestive system or papaya able to successfully digest corn chips(a carbohydrate) without problems ?

* How could your papaya digest coffee ice cream without problems(contains mainly lactose, fats and sugars -- not protein).

The only explanation must be that the acidic lime juice in the salsa was perhaps what raised your stomach acid levels to proper strength again which, via a hormone, then successfully triggered the secretion of all the proper duodenal enzymes and digestion without problems.

You could perhaps achieve exactly the same result by just taking two tablespoons of vinegar or ACV with meals-- which would also raise your pH stomach acidity to proper levels again -- thus successfully triggering secretion of your alkaline pancreatic juices and enzymes thus enabling proper digestion. But lime juice, ACV and vinegar are not the cure -- it only treats the symptoms.

To restore your stomach acid(HCl) to normal, you will have to supplement sources of chlorides to restore your gastric HCL. That's why taking Betaine HCl, Magnesium Chloride(Mag Oil), Sea Salt, Iodine, pancreatin, B complex etc helps to restore stomach HCl and digestion to normal.

The other reason for acid intestines can also be because of lack of bicarbs in the body and in the pancreatic juices. In such cases where the bicarbs from the pancreatic juices are insufficient and cannot neutralize stomach chyme, it may also advisable to perhaps supplement baking soda and water about an hour after meals(when the stomach has finished working) to ensure that proper alkaline to neutral digestion in the duodenum is also achieved for proper digestion to occur."

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...Just to also make clear that I am all for nutrients like papaya and dessicated liver. I've been taking them both for years. I usually take the papaya every morning in a smoothie mixed with other fruits like graviola(paw-paw), mangoes, oranges, grapes -- any fruit that's in season. This provides alot of the vitamins and fibre I need because I don't usually eat enough vegetables in my diet. Papaya clears out all the organic protein debris in the blood and seems to also help regulate my bowel movements every day.

The dessicated liver is also a godsend -- best multivit around -- it contains all the same vits and minerals as spirulina but is in a much more bio-available and cheaper form. Easily bought at any health or muscle shop."

04/12/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Re; Your theory as to Papaya enzymes

Greetings:

Your theory that the citric acid in the Salsa which helped with digestion and not the Papain in the Papaya was a good one. But I just checked the label on the Salsa and there is no citric acid in it (extra lemon juice). There could be natural citric acid in the Tomato but it is the Tomato/Chili that I am VERY allergic to. And so any "citric acid" contained in them has never helped before.

You rightly ask and rightly question; How is it that the Papain (which digests protein) can help with Corn and ice cream digestion?

And THAT is just what has intrigued me. Obviously more is going on than protein digestion provided by the Papaya. Are other enzymes at work? Is the Papain relieving the enzyme production in my own body so that OTHER enzymes are more easily produced that are doing a better job digesting?

And, I think the alkalizing effect could be extraordinarily strong. So the acid in the Salsa/tomato products/ chili etc. is greatly minimized by the Papaya. THAT may not be an enzyme issue.

Now, back to protein; A cup of milk has 8 grams of protein. Ditto on ice cream. And the sugar seems to make my Reflux worse. But if I eat a red meat meal at night and eat ice cream too, then by 3 am, I'm awake with a "grinding" in my stomach OR...WORSE...reflux.

This is why I'm my own guinea pig. And I have asked if anyone else has results from Papaya consumption that could lend some insight to this discussion.

Thank you Bill for weighing in.

You and Ted are just the best.

Your student,

dave"

04/12/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: A handful of Indians were starving during a cold winter while being chased by the cavalry. Eventually they shot an elk. The first thing they did was eat the liver raw. Rats fed raw liver swam eight times longer because of special enzymes. Eskimos eat liver and blubber rare. Vitamin A is in the liver and Vitamin D is in the blubber. They knew to eat them in the proper ratio before scientific investigation. I eat Dave's Denver Delight. Tomato paste and, because of you, papaya are added to improve flavor."

04/12/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Your detailed observations are fascinating and informative. I am looking forward to risking some ice cream soon, when I can get a papaya in hand, that is. Thank you for your continued work for science and humanity! Your sacrifice will benefit many!

~Mama to Many~

P.S. My husband confirms that it is Star Trek that coined (or perhaps popularized?) the phrase, "to go boldly where no man has gone before." :)"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: Bill recommends a liver detox and he is right. The problem might be that a bad liver is making bad cholesterol. The glands make bad hormones from bad cholesterol that constricts the capillaries. Concentrated powders are good for liver detox. I buy them from zn-------. Broccoli sprout, mangosteen, goji, and the all in one formula would be good. Aged garlic and saponins from yucca liquid, tribulus, horse chestnut, and jiaogulan would also be good. You can soak organic lemon peels in water and drink the water."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US : "Mike from Denver.. Wow that is what the wise old woman told me in the healthfood store.. Not sure what you are using but I did buy some Hemp powder so I will try that... I also use Lecithin.. will get some cod liver oil.. Oh; the woman told me to juice green veggies and drink two large glasses a day.. Now I have to buy a juicer.

thanks but what did you list??"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: A nuclear powered sub requires a lot of parts. They have to be properly prepared from reputable companies. Some require maintenance every month, some every year. Same with nutrition. D's half life is 6 weeks. This is why many people get sick in late winter. C from whole food depletes at 8%/hour. The best way to do nutrition is to take all the nutrients in small doses every hour or two with water. Raw has enzymes. Organic and grass fed has activators and trace minerals. The nutrients in a raw organic banana are going to have higher energies than those of a noodle. The best way to eat is like an ape. They eat 1/2 leaves and 1/2 fruit. Pound for pound they have twice the strength of the strongest human. Organic baby leaves are the best veggie. They have growth factors and hormones not in mature veggies. They do not require a juicer. Make a green smoothie from 1oz, some organic chili, water, and 30g organic whole sugar every two hours. You can take fruit instead of sugar. High carb requires 10?t/calorie or less."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver.. My diet is mostly raw and mostly vegetarian with fish.. I hardly eat much .. I do not eat the American standard diet.. No processed foods, junk food or fast food.. I do not eat red meat or even turkey or chicken or soy.. Most of what I eat is natural and wheat and gluten free... the only thing I drink is water and lemons.. the only fruit I eat is watermelon.. I take Spirulina and wheat grass once in awhile.. I use lecithin and cinnamon and turmeric on food and sometimes cayenne... I use ACV, olive leaf, Taurine, magnesium, beet root and I eat beets. I drink eggplant water and I use organic products all the time.. I also use astragulus and have added a few things.. I walk a few times a week.. I don't eat sugar and watch carbs and sugars....there isn't much more I can do.. I do add and subtract things as I go and experiment all the time. I will be 60 soon and yes I am depleted in things as I age so I added COQ10 and L Carnitine and ALpha lopic acid.. Oh; and I am trying out sea salt. I am just trying things out to see what works the best.. I also ground myself and get sun when I can..

I will add Cod liver oil to my bag of tricks.

it is just frustrating to see what works and what doesn't.. I am feeling like a science experiment.. thank you"

04/02/2014: Ed2010 from Canada: "The enzyme of papaya is papain not pepsin. Papain is a protein digesting enzyme. And papaya incerases digestion by stimulating the pancreas, Rich in Vitamin A. Dry papaya chunks are used as meat tenderizer by chefs.

Papaya is a Heat Producing fruit. Traditional varieties are more sweet than the hybrid varieties. Hybrids and GMO's have changed the medicinal properties of many foods.

Good Health"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Thanks for the excellent explanation that encouraged me to try the remedy. I feel better. All us ordinary folk here in Rocky Mountain High think you are an enlightened knowledgeable wise man."

04/03/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mike, my friend;

Re Papaya....

Tonight I ate a "hot" soup prepared by my Indian friend from Malaysia for my wife and me. "Hot" as in spicy. Normally, that kind of hot would cause some skin irritation, but having little will power in culinary matters, I consumed a big bowl anyway. And to counter the inevitable irritation, a few minutes later, I ate three or four bites of Papaya, cool and soothing. Now, 40 minutes later, I feel no irritation at all and by now I certainly would have. So....another Papaya story.

And thank you for the compliment about my standing among the "illuminati" at "Rocky Mountain High"!!!!

YOUR student,

dave"

04/04/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Ed from Canada;

Re Papaya enzyme...

Thank you so much for the correction; "Papain" is the dominate enzyme.

Another experiment with Papaya:

Tonight I used some chopped up Papaya in a mix of ice cream (butter pecan) and Greek yogurt...then refroze. Turned out to be a nice "ad lib" concoction. Creamier than normal ice cream and the Papaya didn't overpower the taste of either the yogurt or the ice cream. And the real purpose of the Papaya was to make the rich creamy desert digestible...so I am not "hit" with an attack of reflux. We'll see. If I had not put Papaya with such a cream/milk based mix...unless I downed a lot of ACV before bed...reflux would be likely.

So I continue to test the limits of Papaya in digestive matters. I didn't eat the black seeds tonight so I am wondering whether that will influence the "test." I intentionally won't take ACV this evening just to push the "digestive" envelope.

Now some "critic" may suggest that I'm doing this "ice cream test" as a ploy, a mere excuse to eat ice cream.

How could such a hypothetical critic, such as my wife, think such a thing.

I am wanting to see the digestive limits of Papaya. And that is all.

However, I may have to test the Papaya digestive limits with various ice cream flavors...chocolate (with Papaya), strawberry (with Papaya) etc.

Just as a test, mind you.

For purely scientific purposes.

Yes, I am willing to sacrifice myself in such a "test"... for all to know the benefits. Will report back the results six pounds from now...ah....six days from now.

Big Dave from Fountain Inn"

04/04/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Wow, your sacrifice for the sake of science and humanity will be remembered and appreciated by many!

Let me know if you find that Papaya makes chocolate chip mint ice cream more digestible.

Thanks!

~Mama to Many~"

04/05/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Mama to Many;

Re Papaya and Ice Cream...

I'd forgotten about Chocolate Chip Mint Ice Cream!!! That most certainly will be added to the list. So far, with the CCMIC, I've got seven to test.

Wow. This is hard work."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mama to Many and anyone interested in the Papaya experiments;

Update; I continue to attempt dietary suicide by consuming ALLLL the foods that I KNOW will kill me.

Well, perhaps this is hyperbolae. "Exaggeration for the sake of effect"...otherwise known as a "lie" is OK if it has literary value. So says some philosopher of ethics I read one time. Can't recall who. But some philosopher must have said it at some point in time because philosophers say most everything.

Back to the point: Certain foods will cause me terrific problems; too much creamy stuff, too much coffee and red meat and for SURE; Reflux. I mean for sure.

ANY salsa and for sure, skin irritation is immediate; especially back of scalp...and burning eyes.

That scalp condition has been a reaction since I was a child and the reflux developed ten years ago.

Well, I have indulged; And my wife, intrigued at my new attempt at such an "adventurous" life style, her elbow on kitchen counter, head in palm of her hand just gazing at me as I stuff chip after chip laden with hot salsa into my burning mouth.

"What?" I ask as bits of salsa fall over my reddened lip.

"Just watching. And waiting. I have the phone ready to call 911."

"Very funny." I gulp down the twentieth chip. I choke a bit but recover.

"Push that bowl of Papaya and Mango over here. You're not getting the insurance money that easily, love. Watch this."

And with that, I down eight soothing...cooling spoonfuls of the blend of one Papaya and three much smaller Mangos, blended and then strained to make a thick, beautiful orange/yellow "soup." I do not dilute; just using a spoon I consume letting the mild, mellow liquid soak into my mouth before swallowing.

"There. Saved."

"We'll see." And she continued to stare at me.

I neither died NOR broke out in the slightest rash.

And as a further "update" I tried to induce Reflux by downing a huge container of Coffee ice cream. ALL for the sake of science; followed by Papaya again. (Mama to Many...you alone seem to understand the sacrifice involved ... bless you.)

No Reflux. Yet.

There has to be some point of excess that the Papaya can't overcome and I am determined, for the sake of science, to find THAT POINT.

AND; I have ONLY gained two pounds in this .... this experiment... thus far.

I am only doing this for you...dear EC readers. Testing the limits..." boldly going where no man has gone before..." Some philosopher said that too. Plato I do believe. Maybe Wittgenstein. The Later Wittgenstein.

And if that point...which I spoke of is reached...over some bowl of forbidden flavors, don't be surprised if my wife, newly attired in the finest of apparel, holds a series of "appreciation" events at a few selected sites...

And don't feel sorry for her. She'll be traveling around the globe for a while; overcoming her grief and looking for new "remedies" out of love and respect for her deceased husband; who died while looking for solutions to ailments...only trying to help those hurting."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: Papaya make my desiccated liver taste better."

04/11/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "To Mike 62;

Re Desiccated Liver plus Papaya...

Mike...you just a star!

Wow...who would have thunk...Desiccated Liver- and Papaya making it taste better!

The only way to improve even that would be to make it into an ice cream.

We'd call it....

"Mike 62 Desiccated Liver Papaya Ice Cream Explosion"...

But hold on...before I rev up on the marketing campaign...you operate off very strict dietary rules if I recall. Does ice cream fit within those bounds? Maybe we use Almond Milk."

04/11/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: I am not a perfectionist. I don't eat perfectly all the time. You could try Mike's mountain mush. Three of the ingredients are dairy. Mix papaya, non denatured whey, colostrum, and sour cream together. This would taste like yogurt because of the sour cream."

04/11/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver

What is dessicated Liver? I don't eat red meat .. don't like the taste of it.

So you eat 80 percent raw ... I try that but its pretty challenging but do the best I can..what do you eat cooked?"

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...My congratulations to you on your experiment with papaya. A brave man indeed!!

However, I've got to say that I think that papaya had very little to do with your ability to eat those bad foods without problems. I'll try and explain why.

First, have a look at this link which is something I've quickly written that helps to explain how stomach acid and duodenal digestion or Main Stage Digestion are so crucially linked:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6bKkuZlS7-Q_-bTJk1sU_cvNRSQr8_WM91FJ7jIvR4/edit?usp=sharing

What saved your bacon was probably the lime juice in the salsa -- which raised your low stomach acid and triggered all your proper enzymes in the duodenum for main stage digestion -- such amylase, lipase, lactase, tripsin etc.

My reasons for believing this are as follows:

* Papaya contains papain -- which can only digest proteins.

* So how was your digestive system or papaya able to successfully digest corn chips(a carbohydrate) without problems ?

* How could your papaya digest coffee ice cream without problems(contains mainly lactose, fats and sugars -- not protein).

The only explanation must be that the acidic lime juice in the salsa was perhaps what raised your stomach acid levels to proper strength again which, via a hormone, then successfully triggered the secretion of all the proper duodenal enzymes and digestion without problems.

You could perhaps achieve exactly the same result by just taking two tablespoons of vinegar or ACV with meals-- which would also raise your pH stomach acidity to proper levels again -- thus successfully triggering secretion of your alkaline pancreatic juices and enzymes thus enabling proper digestion. But lime juice, ACV and vinegar are not the cure -- it only treats the symptoms.

To restore your stomach acid(HCl) to normal, you will have to supplement sources of chlorides to restore your gastric HCL. That's why taking Betaine HCl, Magnesium Chloride(Mag Oil), Sea Salt, Iodine, pancreatin, B complex etc helps to restore stomach HCl and digestion to normal.

The other reason for acid intestines can also be because of lack of bicarbs in the body and in the pancreatic juices. In such cases where the bicarbs from the pancreatic juices are insufficient and cannot neutralize stomach chyme, it may also advisable to perhaps supplement baking soda and water about an hour after meals(when the stomach has finished working) to ensure that proper alkaline to neutral digestion in the duodenum is also achieved for proper digestion to occur."

04/11/2014: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines: "Hi Dave...Just to also make clear that I am all for nutrients like papaya and dessicated liver. I've been taking them both for years. I usually take the papaya every morning in a smoothie mixed with other fruits like graviola(paw-paw), mangoes, oranges, grapes -- any fruit that's in season. This provides alot of the vitamins and fibre I need because I don't usually eat enough vegetables in my diet. Papaya clears out all the organic protein debris in the blood and seems to also help regulate my bowel movements every day.

The dessicated liver is also a godsend -- best multivit around -- it contains all the same vits and minerals as spirulina but is in a much more bio-available and cheaper form. Easily bought at any health or muscle shop."

04/12/2014: Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc: "Hello Bill from the Philippines;

Re; Your theory as to Papaya enzymes

Greetings:

Your theory that the citric acid in the Salsa which helped with digestion and not the Papain in the Papaya was a good one. But I just checked the label on the Salsa and there is no citric acid in it (extra lemon juice). There could be natural citric acid in the Tomato but it is the Tomato/Chili that I am VERY allergic to. And so any "citric acid" contained in them has never helped before.

You rightly ask and rightly question; How is it that the Papain (which digests protein) can help with Corn and ice cream digestion?

And THAT is just what has intrigued me. Obviously more is going on than protein digestion provided by the Papaya. Are other enzymes at work? Is the Papain relieving the enzyme production in my own body so that OTHER enzymes are more easily produced that are doing a better job digesting?

And, I think the alkalizing effect could be extraordinarily strong. So the acid in the Salsa/tomato products/ chili etc. is greatly minimized by the Papaya. THAT may not be an enzyme issue.

Now, back to protein; A cup of milk has 8 grams of protein. Ditto on ice cream. And the sugar seems to make my Reflux worse. But if I eat a red meat meal at night and eat ice cream too, then by 3 am, I'm awake with a "grinding" in my stomach OR...WORSE...reflux.

This is why I'm my own guinea pig. And I have asked if anyone else has results from Papaya consumption that could lend some insight to this discussion.

Thank you Bill for weighing in.

You and Ted are just the best.

Your student,

dave"

04/12/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Dave: A handful of Indians were starving during a cold winter while being chased by the cavalry. Eventually they shot an elk. The first thing they did was eat the liver raw. Rats fed raw liver swam eight times longer because of special enzymes. Eskimos eat liver and blubber rare. Vitamin A is in the liver and Vitamin D is in the blubber. They knew to eat them in the proper ratio before scientific investigation. I eat Dave's Denver Delight. Tomato paste and, because of you, papaya are added to improve flavor."

04/12/2014: Mama To Many from Tennessee, Usa: "Dear Dave,

Your detailed observations are fascinating and informative. I am looking forward to risking some ice cream soon, when I can get a papaya in hand, that is. Thank you for your continued work for science and humanity! Your sacrifice will benefit many!

~Mama to Many~

P.S. My husband confirms that it is Star Trek that coined (or perhaps popularized?) the phrase, "to go boldly where no man has gone before." :)"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: Bill recommends a liver detox and he is right. The problem might be that a bad liver is making bad cholesterol. The glands make bad hormones from bad cholesterol that constricts the capillaries. Concentrated powders are good for liver detox. I buy them from zn-------. Broccoli sprout, mangosteen, goji, and the all in one formula would be good. Aged garlic and saponins from yucca liquid, tribulus, horse chestnut, and jiaogulan would also be good. You can soak organic lemon peels in water and drink the water."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US : "Mike from Denver.. Wow that is what the wise old woman told me in the healthfood store.. Not sure what you are using but I did buy some Hemp powder so I will try that... I also use Lecithin.. will get some cod liver oil.. Oh; the woman told me to juice green veggies and drink two large glasses a day.. Now I have to buy a juicer.

thanks but what did you list??"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: A nuclear powered sub requires a lot of parts. They have to be properly prepared from reputable companies. Some require maintenance every month, some every year. Same with nutrition. D's half life is 6 weeks. This is why many people get sick in late winter. C from whole food depletes at 8%/hour. The best way to do nutrition is to take all the nutrients in small doses every hour or two with water. Raw has enzymes. Organic and grass fed has activators and trace minerals. The nutrients in a raw organic banana are going to have higher energies than those of a noodle. The best way to eat is like an ape. They eat 1/2 leaves and 1/2 fruit. Pound for pound they have twice the strength of the strongest human. Organic baby leaves are the best veggie. They have growth factors and hormones not in mature veggies. They do not require a juicer. Make a green smoothie from 1oz, some organic chili, water, and 30g organic whole sugar every two hours. You can take fruit instead of sugar. High carb requires 10?t/calorie or less."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver.. My diet is mostly raw and mostly vegetarian with fish.. I hardly eat much .. I do not eat the American standard diet.. No processed foods, junk food or fast food.. I do not eat red meat or even turkey or chicken or soy.. Most of what I eat is natural and wheat and gluten free... the only thing I drink is water and lemons.. the only fruit I eat is watermelon.. I take Spirulina and wheat grass once in awhile.. I use lecithin and cinnamon and turmeric on food and sometimes cayenne... I use ACV, olive leaf, Taurine, magnesium, beet root and I eat beets. I drink eggplant water and I use organic products all the time.. I also use astragulus and have added a few things.. I walk a few times a week.. I don't eat sugar and watch carbs and sugars....there isn't much more I can do.. I do add and subtract things as I go and experiment all the time. I will be 60 soon and yes I am depleted in things as I age so I added COQ10 and L Carnitine and ALpha lopic acid.. Oh; and I am trying out sea salt. I am just trying things out to see what works the best.. I also ground myself and get sun when I can..

I will add Cod liver oil to my bag of tricks.

it is just frustrating to see what works and what doesn't.. I am feeling like a science experiment.. thank you"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Vinam: I have tried various products to enlarge my penis and prolong ejaculation. They are other people money schemes."

04/03/2014: Mvangelis from New York, NY: "What brand of bee propolis are you using? can anyone recommend a truly effective brand? (or extract %) thank you!"

[WARNING!]  09/11/2013: Yellowbird from Portlandia: "SIDE EFFECTS: Caution with Chia Seeds (and Flax & Primrose Seeds) for those with HYPOtension (very LOW blood pressure)...

These seeds are known for their ability to reduce blood pressure via vasodilation- a good thing for folk with HYPERtension (=High BP), but the quick reduction can be dramatic- even dangerous- for those who live with very low blood pressure already.

Much as I loved them, I had to stop using chia becoz of this effect. Everytime I tried them, within minutes my allready low blood pressure would fall thru the floor: veins overly dilated, throbbing sensation in neck vein, dizzy, faint, anxious, knot in chest, breathless, fluttery heart, skipped beats, light & dark spots before eyes. Classic signs of blood pressure plunging too low, too fast."

04/03/2014: Loiz from Ireland: "Yes chia seeds also cause low blood pressure for me"

04/03/2014: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa: "Looking at possibly buying the Teeter 950 tomorrow. I know they sell for about $400.00 brand new. Person has one, he says in excellent condition and still has paper work on it for $250.00. He says table is his grand mothers and she can no longer use it as per her doctor, because she had some fusing done to her spine. May be able to get a little less than the $250.00, I will probably offer him $200.00.

I have been having some back pain, specific to the upper back and neck. Will post if I purchase to let everyone know my review.

Anyone with info on the Teeter 950, please comment on pros and cons. Thank You, Rebel"

[WARNING!]  04/13/2014: Rebel from Somewhere, Usa: "I made the purchase for $200.00.

I have to give a warning for this though. I did not fully invert, I only went about 120 degrees and only for 3 to 5 minutes at a time. I did not properly balance my self with the board, so coming back up really strained my stomach. ( I will explain this in a moment )Also if you are over weight like I am, it may actually not be safe to do anyways. It hurt my ankles as well.

So, I wind up going to the chiropractor. I had this catch or what felt like a catch or pinched nerve in between my shoulder blades. I iced for the ride down and he adjusted me and says, " You wear not out that bad. Well that did not sound right, because I had very bad headaches for a week at the base of my skull and the pain between my shoulders.

Back home I could barey lay my head on a pillow my neck felt as though it was to tired to hold my head on. I winded up thinking maybe it was some kind of virus or something and not my back, So I put a drop of CLOVE OIL on the base of my spine from the bottom of my skull down to the lower spine. So a couple drops altogether. That night was very painful, but the next day the pain had ceased, I felt normal again.

So back to the home choirs and projects I had started.This is when I notice a strain in my stomach. It scared me very bad I thought I might have strained a hernia. But a couple days latter and that pain has ceased as well.

I do not know what was going on with me. I do know that I was, already hurting when I got the machine. But, the machine may have been actually moving so much stuff in my back that recover was a lot muscle spasms, because of what the chiropractor said about I was not out bad. Or maybe it was some time virus that was really hurting me and the clove oil on the spine ran it away. I don't know, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. LOL.... I am a lot better now pain wise. I was at a 10, with 10 be worse pain and 1 being less. I am now at about a 3 or 4 pain wise.

Thanks, Rebel"

04/03/2014: Suseeq from Sydney, Australia: "Emanuel , try IGA that's where I bought mine"

04/01/2014: Oscar from Syracuse, New York: "Dear Yureg from US, I wish to begin by thanking you for this informative posting. As a reminder, do NOT use vitamin B12 supplements with the BHT treatment. The metabolites of BHT can and will combine with B12 by way of peptide bonds. Vitamin B12 in effect acts as a BHT scavenger degrading the BHT treatment severely. Thank you for your informative posting Yureg. I only wish more people would use the updated treatment and post their results. These hepatitis infections are dangerous. The BHT treatment does work for most people if used properly. Keep it simple. The BHT treatment is BHT and NOTHING else. Also just keep taking the BHT as you have been even after NO VIRUS DETECTED is achieved. That means the treatment is working. It does NOT mean you are cured. That takes at least 2 years for most people if not more than 2 years. This is because even though no virus is detected in your blood, a very many liver cells are still infected with whatever viral hepatitis you are treating with BHT.

A true cure is when you test NEGATIVE repeatedly with the ANTIBODIES test. Very happy to hear this good news Yureg, ...Oscar"

[YEA]  04/03/2014: Yureg from US: "Oscar,

I was a member on the BHT group and apparently it was taken down. I just want to share the benefits of BHT for hepatitis B. I did get a successful treatment of tenofovir (zero VL) prescribed by the VA but when I did stop them due to renal nephrotoxicity side effects it came back. So far it's the simple treatment of BHT on an empty stomach that did it. I also quit drinking and start eating healthy food. I mean non-GMOs or processed foods. For meats grass-fed or non-antibiotic stuff. Organic vegetables for cooking and most of all juicing every morning. I know a lot of succesful stories from the BHT group due to simplicity and healthy eating. Maybe NIH should do some studies on these. Wish Rachel and Cathy can revive the old BHT group. Thanks again Leatherneck for you laborious research. Doc Jorge BLT3/5."

04/03/2014: Oscar from Syracuse, New York: "Dear Yureg from US, I very much appreciate your input or feedback about BHT as a treatment for viral hepatitis. As you pointed out in your last posting: Getting a NO VIRUS DETECTED with a blood test does NOT mean you are cured. It means the treatment you are using is working. Also, as you stated: The FDA approved treatments are often very hard on different organs or tissues. For you it was your kidneys. For many it is their bone marrow. The good thing about BHT is: If used in safe dosages their is NO tissue damage so you can keep taking BHT as long as necessary to achieve a true cure. A very many people relapse after a supposedly successful treatment with FDA approved drugs.

It amazes me that the medical establishment seems to NOT understand that a true cure is when a person tests NEGATIVE with the ANTIBODIES tests for the different viral hepatitis infections.

Anyway, I have thoughts of starting yet again another new BHT cures group. I have serious concerns about doing so. I was threatened by one of the former groups members with some sort of legal action by the FDA. I was very clear about BHT NOT being an FDA approved treatment for any disease or condition. This person was advised to lower his daily intake of BHT. He never once had any blood tests done. He seems to hate me for some reason and said he was determined to cause me legal problems. That is the reason I ended that group.

My thinking is that any possible future BHT cures group be a restricted group. And I have only vague ideas on how that could be done. I would only want members that believe in the treatment and are willing to have blood tests done. These blood tests are the only way of knowing if the treatment is working and or how well it is working.

I would appreciate any thoughts you have on starting a new BHT cures group.

Anyone out there can check in with their thoughts on this. If there are people interested in creating such a group say so....Oscar"

09/06/2010: Lynn from Washington Dc, Unites States: "Hi Damion, about your dry skin... If that's your only side affect, I would really try to stick with it... Maybe this is a detox side effect? I know that when I use virgin coconut oil, my super dry and ITCHY shins (which would most certainly appear ashen if my skin were a darker shade) feel and look way better. I've also used baby eczema lotion with success as well as virgin olive oil... I'm sure they have something great for it here on earth clinic... Try looking under eczema since that covers dryness and itchiness. Hope that helps. Lynn"

12/31/2011: Lexies from Ny: "I don't know what to say, I have Lyme disease and I was looking for cure then found hydrogen peroxide therapy. All can say don't try until you do research, for me it's too late but I tell you what happen. I did course of hydrogen peroxide therapy, to kill Lyme, after 1 month I had green sputum small amount , after one week more and more. I call my doctor and he did CT scan and find that vie had cancer minimal cells in my lungs , spine , throat and lymph node in pericardial mediastinum site. Hydrogen peroxide is Carcinogenic, and iknow that but now it's too late, I found new treatment with MMS I will by next week it is Carcinogenic too, but I have nothing to loose. Before you do anything read side effects, and if it's carcinogenic. Don't be like me aim just an idiot, and I don't know how to tell my parents about my diagnosis. To bad but too late!!!"

01/01/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa: "Dear Lexies from Ny, When I read a posting such as yours I feel compelled to respond. The compound known as BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] may be helpful in combatting all types of cancer.

A man named Dr. Denham Harman did a lot of research back in the late 1950s and 1960s that showed a very significant average lifespan increase in mice dosed with BHT that were cancer prone mice. This average lifespan increase was between 45% and 50% in the cancer prone mice. Other reseachers using non-cancer prone mice achieved average lifespan increases of between 22% and 31% with the use of BHT.

Dr. Harman chose BHT for well founded reasons. BHT is the most potent free radical and other harmful chemical entities scavenger available. Dr. Harman was hired by the US government to come up with a means of dealing with the harmful effects of nuclear radiation. Cancer is at least one of the most harmful results of nuclear radiation and BHT is the most effective measure he came up with to deal with these harmful effects.

Reading stories like yours breaks my heart. In my opinion, based on the very many studies that have been done: BHT is very likely to be benificial in the treatment of all cancers based on all that research that has been done. As to dosage I would recommend one 350mg capsule of BHT per day with a gulp of water to wash it down.

There is also wheat grass juice therapy. Ann Wigmore cured many patients of cancer with that therapy. A lot of former cancer patients swear by wheat grass juice therapy.

Both BHT and wheat grass juice therapy are based on sound biochemistry principles. I can NOT say the same for this MMS and hydrogen peroxide therapy because both are know to be toxic if taken internally. What can I say ? Do NOT give up. These are the two most promising therapies for cancer I am aware of: The BHT and the wheat grass juice....Oscar"

09/05/2012: Ali from Swansea, Wales, Uk: "Lexies, I am sorry that you have had this problem. You have to realize though that Cancer comes and goes within the body throughout our lives, which is why some people's Cancer goes into spontaneous remission. It is often forming for years before it is found, so the fact that you appeared to develop Cancer after doing the HP treatment is no indication it caused it. Perhaps what it did do, in its detox role, was to make already existing Cancer cells more obvious as your body was trying to deal with them.

As the body detoxes, toxins and unwanted matter are drawn out of the body via the detox pathways. That is why people will often eject lots of mucous from the nasal passages and the lungs, have boils, spots, rashes and zits etc. flare up, feel rough for a while, get (detox) colds and coughs, have diarrhea or loose stools, poor sleep (the body does a lot of healing and detoxing at night when we are resting and not using the energy for other things).

People don't get Cancer overnight. It is due to a cumulative build up of toxins from food that the body can't process properly like processed nutritionally dead sugar and other processed 'food', chemicals, prescription and non-prescription drugs, polluted water and any of the host of toxic chemical toiletries and cleaning substances people use over the years."

10/16/2012: Odine from Cape Town, South Africa: "Hi ted, i'm a 23 year old girl from south africa... i've had an virus infection for about two months and from what I can tell it's been 'manifesting' in my stomach and also causing me anxiety, dizziness, fatigue, weakness, diarreah, nausea, constipation... And also this weird stinging feeling in my legs from time to time. My feet also cramps at night and I get less fever now than I used to, and my lips are cracked. My glands are also swollen whenever I feel at my worst. It's really frustrating.

At the moment I'm using most of your remedies and so far I have seen amazing results with ACV curing my dizziness and stomach issues. I recently also started out with ozone therapy which I trust will help me on in getting better. Although, yesterday I bought myself colloidial silver and 35% foodgrade HP and have been taking 3drops with every glass of water 3 times a day and have been taking the collodial silver every now and then. I just want to know if its safe to use ACV, CS and HP all together? Last night I 've had bouts of diarrhea and this morning woke up with a sore throat and burning stomach. I still have upset stomach as i'm sitting here the next day. Is it a relapse of the virus or am I overdoing it? I really want to get better!"

10/16/2012: Ed2010 from Oakville, Canada: "Your symptoms sounds like Chickun Gunya, chickungunya virus affects brain as well and causes severe fear and anxiety.

For stomach infection, you can take Bael Fruit Powder. Take 1 tsp Bael Fruit Powder in a Glass of water mix it thoroughly and set aside for half hour. And drink it. Fruit is a very potent anti-viral and anti-parasitic natural medicine.In thailand it is available as Bael Fruit Jam too. If you can't get Bael Fruit Powder, along with ted's recomendation take lots of probiotic foods like

Milk Kefir, Saurkraut, Miso, Yoghurt, Natto, Kimchi, Butter milk. Or at the least, take probiotic supplements. thanks"

04/03/2014: Smartattimes from Pdx: "Sorry to hear about your illness.

However, Food grade hydrogen peroxide is not carcinogenic it is used in breads pastries, noodles all over the world. Did you use Food grade hydrogen peroxide? However I like to look at both sides. My MD gave me hydrogen peroxide IV's so he is an specialist and he really knows his chemistry. Then again sometimes we think things are safe then it comes out it is not

• The Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) had evaluated the safety of hydrogen peroxide in 1that ingestion of small amount of hydrogen peroxide would produce no toxicological effects due to rapid decomposition of the chemical by the enzyme catalase of the intestinal cells.

• Regarding the carcinogenicity of hydrogen peroxide, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) considered that there was inadequate evidence for carcinogenicity in human.

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04/03/2014: Ladymars from Florida, Us: "Hi James, you really need to get a diagnosis before trying to treat your problem. Best wishes."

04/13/2014: James Loh from Tutong, Brunei: "Luckily, thank GOD, for some reason after a long while the pulling sensation is gone. My wildest guess is that I am weak and cannot fight or adapt to the daily environmental conditions of an equatorial climate - hot, dry, humid and cold aircon. Persistent eating no matter how hard I guess help somewhat."

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: Bill recommends a liver detox and he is right. The problem might be that a bad liver is making bad cholesterol. The glands make bad hormones from bad cholesterol that constricts the capillaries. Concentrated powders are good for liver detox. I buy them from zn-------. Broccoli sprout, mangosteen, goji, and the all in one formula would be good. Aged garlic and saponins from yucca liquid, tribulus, horse chestnut, and jiaogulan would also be good. You can soak organic lemon peels in water and drink the water."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US : "Mike from Denver.. Wow that is what the wise old woman told me in the healthfood store.. Not sure what you are using but I did buy some Hemp powder so I will try that... I also use Lecithin.. will get some cod liver oil.. Oh; the woman told me to juice green veggies and drink two large glasses a day.. Now I have to buy a juicer.

thanks but what did you list??"

04/03/2014: Mike62 from Denver, CO: "Bee: A nuclear powered sub requires a lot of parts. They have to be properly prepared from reputable companies. Some require maintenance every month, some every year. Same with nutrition. D's half life is 6 weeks. This is why many people get sick in late winter. C from whole food depletes at 8%/hour. The best way to do nutrition is to take all the nutrients in small doses every hour or two with water. Raw has enzymes. Organic and grass fed has activators and trace minerals. The nutrients in a raw organic banana are going to have higher energies than those of a noodle. The best way to eat is like an ape. They eat 1/2 leaves and 1/2 fruit. Pound for pound they have twice the strength of the strongest human. Organic baby leaves are the best veggie. They have growth factors and hormones not in mature veggies. They do not require a juicer. Make a green smoothie from 1oz, some organic chili, water, and 30g organic whole sugar every two hours. You can take fruit instead of sugar. High carb requires 10?t/calorie or less."

04/03/2014: Bee from New York, US: "Mike from Denver.. My diet is mostly raw and mostly vegetarian with fish.. I hardly eat much .. I do not eat the American standard diet.. No processed foods, junk food or fast food.. I do not eat red meat or even turkey or chicken or soy.. Most of what I eat is natural and wheat and gluten free... the only thing I drink is water and lemons.. the only fruit I eat is watermelon.. I take Spirulina and wheat grass once in awhile.. I use lecithin and cinnamon and turmeric on food and sometimes cayenne... I use ACV, olive leaf, Taurine, magnesium, beet root and I eat beets. I drink eggplant water and I use organic products all the time.. I also use astragulus and have added a few things.. I walk a few times a week.. I don't eat sugar and watch carbs and sugars....there isn't much more I can do.. I do add and subtract things as I go and experiment all the time. I will be 60 soon and yes I am depleted in things as I age so I added COQ10 and L Carnitine and ALpha lopic acid.. Oh; and I am trying out sea salt. I am just trying things out to see what works the best.. I also ground myself and get sun when I can..

I will add Cod liver oil to my bag of tricks.

it is just frustrating to see what works and what doesn't.. I am feeling like a science experiment.. thank you"

11/30/2011: Lily from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia: "Ally, your Borax dosage is just right. Make sure you take it 4 days on 3 days off. Not everybody has symptoms with borax. Cheers Lily."

12/01/2011: Ally from Jerusalem, Israel: "Hi Lily,

Thanks so much for your response. I am just wondering what it means if it doesn't work for psoriasis -- do I need to increase the dosage? When should I begin to see an effect?

Thank you,

Ally"

[YEA]  04/03/2014: Zevn7tp from Stockton, California: "I've been using 20 Mule Team Borax for a week now with 500mg of Magnesium and I'm almost fully psoriasis free. Dose 1 tsp of Borax in one liter of water to make a concentrate. Then take only 2 tsp of the concentrate and mix it into a glass of water. Drink that with food. I do it at breakfast. Be sure to take a 500 mg magnesium pill with it also, or the Borax WILL NOT activate. Borax alone will do nothing for psoriasis. You have to have the magnesium with it. Hope this works better for you. It's working for me. I'm actually stunned that I've had this stupid psoriasis all these years and it was such a simple fix. Summer time shorts here I come."

04/04/2014: Anthony from Philly Pa: "Hi. I'm gonna try this. Have you had any other issues besides the skin problem? Any digestive problems? Also, do u take this every day? Thank you!"