[YEA]  02/07/2007: Aristeo from Solano, Philippines: "Acapulco leaves can cure scabies. Extract of the leaves can cure scabies."

11/09/2010: Run Scabies Run from Minneapolis, Mn replies: "I recently treated my 8 year old son... IT WORKS! My son was diagnosed 3 weeks ago and we learned Permethrin DOES NOT WORK. So I researched for 2 days and found this website. Here is what I did:

1)wet skin with INSTANT HAND SANITIZER WITH ALOE,

2)first layer with ORANGE OIL ($4. 99 from GNC),

3)second layer COCONUT OIL HAIR CONDITIONER ( $2 by Blue Magic),

4) third layer TEA TREE OIL ($2. 64 by Hollywood Beauty),

5) within 5 minutes the scabies literally crawled out by the hundreds (scary),

6) leave oil mix on skin for at least 30 minutes,

7) soak in shower and watch the mites run down the drain,

8) disinfect entire home,

9) Rinse and Repeat,

10) RELAX! ... Please follow these 10 easy steps and soon you will be posting the good news."

11/19/2010: Tonya from Winona, Mn Usa replies: "Hi
I was diagnosed a week ago. Since then I have done two perm treatments, showered twice every day, washed linens and clothing every day. My question to you is concerning the "layers". Do you mean apply all of them one right after another? or one everyday? and you said they literally crawled off? were you serious or just making a point?"

11/23/2010: Run Scabies Run from Minneapolis, Mn replies: "Pack all layers of steps 1 through 4 all at once. This method takes care of the first treatment. It must also be maintained. I found sulfur soap for ($1.37)look on-line first because not all stores have the Hispanic isle. And Salicylic Acid for acne should help reduce the bumps that still appear after the mites die. Hope this helps! "

12/05/2010: Lauren from Clearwater, Fl replies: "Ok my question is this, if scabies are microscopic how did you see them come crawling out of your skin after applying the oils? I was told that the only way to see scabies was on a microscope?"

02/25/2011: Andso from Portland, Oregon replies: "There is NO WAY to see scabies..how VERY UNKIND to spread misinformation.. Shame! do not take this persons advice PLEASE.. You could harm your skin or worse :("

02/26/2011: He Had Cooties Or Ants - Not Scabies from Tacoma, Wa replies: "Your kid must have had ants or cooties because what you described is not scabies...

- the scabies literally crawled out by the hundreds (scary)

-watch the mites run down the drain,

Two problems with your treatment description is:

You have anywhere from 10-20 mites on you .. if you have scabies - not "hundreds" as you put it.
The mites are a translucent teeny, tiny mite that is no bigger than the size of pin point when fully grown.. so to see them "run down the drain" and "litterally crawling out of your skin" is false!

Good luck with that ant or cooties problem because its not scabies that your treating."

03/21/2011: Jessence from Sa, Tx replies: "I respectfully disagree with the "microscopic" comments. I have had horrible acne for a while now which has been getting MUCH worse as of late. I also, as of the past month, have had intense, unbearable itching and swelling of my yoni (Sanskrit for vagina). I thought the acne was just acne~ even though I am a vegan, take raw food supplements, drink kefir daily, raw honey and home made chai tea (cinnamon, cloves, ginger, ect plus coconut milk), and basically do everything right~ and was rather stumped about it. The itch I thought was herpes (you don't have to sleep around to get it) and started natural treatments for that, but received a negative on my herpes test. So, stumped again.

Well, recently I came across information that much acne is caused by the Demodex mite. After hours of research, I deduced that this was my acne problem, as I had all of the secondary symptoms and it totally resonated with me. So, I immediately got in the bath (at 2 am), dumped in Epsom salts and tea tree oil, and upon getting out of the bath, I slathered myself in tea tree, neem oil and coconut oil. Well, that was followed by MAJOR itch and crawling sensations on my face and yoni. I wiped at a crawly area on my face and examined my finger closely under a bright lamp. Well, there was a little SOMETHING there, kinda grayish, barely visable, long and thin~ so I smashed it between my thumbs and flattened it out. I continued inspecting my face, and lo and behold~ they were everywhere! On my face, my hairline, even on my neck and chest as I guess they tried to escape. I could FEEL them and SEE them. I couldn't tell if they were dead or not, so I tried to squish them all. Many were an exact replica of the first one found~ many were different. I seemed to have 3 (maybe 4) distinct stages of them coming out of my skin. Some were more white and soft bodied (nymphs?), some were hard and crystally (eggs?). Some came out with fibers (I read somewhere that the mite uses fibers from your clothes to make a nest). These were not all different things I was seeing and just paranoid so mistook them for the mites. These were all identical to the others of the same stage. Needless to say, I was totally grossed out, but SOOO happy to FINALLY have an answer to my embarrassing acne~ as well as the itchiness and crawy sensations of my face, scalp and ears.

Well, then I had the idea to put the same concoction on my yoni (which was only mildly itchy at the time due to the bath). OMG~ the ITCH after putting the oils on her!!!! Crawling, creeping hell! I usually don't scrath down there, so I started to gently rub it for some relief and when I looked at my fingers, they were COVERED in the VERY SAME parasites!!!!!! I swear on my LIFE, this is the truth! I wiped my fingers on a towel, and did it again, focusing on where the itch was~ and same thing! This went on until 5 am, when I could take no more and went to sleep.

So, today I went out and bought some tinctures of black walnut hull, wormwood and clove and I am putting myself on a MAJOR parasite cleanse. I also added clove oil and the tinctures to my oil concoction (clove oil kills parasite eggs and the others kill the other stages of parasites). I took a shower and applied the brew to my face, and got the same visable results. I applied it to my yoni, and more of the same, and this time I also got crawlies on my thighs and when I looked at those spots there was invariably a grayish speck there, undoubtably trying to escape. I am now sitting in a borax bath as I type this. So, this long story is to say that YES you CAN see them! AND you can definitely FEEL them crawling on (and in) your skin. This is not something I would spend all this time on simply telling a tall tale to yank your chain. I am extremely busy, and this past month with this SERIOUS issue has TRULY eaten up my time and I have been MISERABLE. I want NOTHING more than to get back to "normal". I guess you should be very careful when you pray that "all impure things inside of me be released and cleansed". I do think I am going to be healthier than ever, and optimum, pure, radiant health is my highest desire. I am extremely happy that I don't have herpes, because I was really dreading having to tell my husband. He's been in Panama building our island home while I have been staying at my parent's (ordering sustainable home supplies, seeds, and all the things we need to be self sufficient) for the last 6 months, and I didn't want to cause him any reason to doubt my devotion and think I cheated on him (which I NEVER have). So, I guess this is better than that. But IT SUCKS!!!! I know on some level I agreed to take this on, and I hope someday I am able to help someone else who suffers from it (I also know ALL about herpes now! ). Thanks for listening, I hope this is useful to someone and I wish you ALL the very best health imaginable. Namaste."

06/01/2011: Kodik from London, Ontario, Canada replies: "Well, I have itchy scalp, ear (flaky too) and now in one spot on my genitals. I've been missdiagnosed before' doctors told me I have psoriasis but I knew it's not true because my husband and my niece got it too. I am so so desperate to heal it :( I can't sleep during the night:(

I probably have scabies, and right this minute I'm going to take a bath with tee tree oil and coconut to kill them. We are washing the bedding EVERY DAY due to obsession.

I hope I have something I can get rid of."

06/04/2011: Jan from Santa Cruz, Aruba replies: "hello guys, I have this scabies symptoms for many years. I can sleep well, I look normal, small few bumps. Mild lession compare to scabies patient pictures. As I remember before I have bumps, lession in my penis, in the skin of my penis, I can see under my balls, the hair have a brown object clinging. Maybe dirty I dnt know. My waist also itchy.. As I finish taking a bath, I can feel crawling or running on my back area. I have also itchy thigh or bites but I cannot see bumps. In my finger web I have a bumps with have like water inside, coz I squeeze it. Seems like if I have a bumps in my body, looks have water inside. Thank you I see the earth clinic...

When I use borax, hydrogen peroxide soak I feel better, but next day I feel still crawling in my back. My feet, in my fingers hair under I can feel them down there but can't see anything in my skin... When I hear about citrus, I try listerene citrus mouthwash all over my body from head to toe at night... In the morning I can see small black object, maybe dead mites. I can squeeze it in my nails. at day I try citrus anti bacterial handwash mix with coconut conditioner, borax dissolve in hydrogen peroxide, leave it in my body as I can... I can see again black object. after using this, this is the time I can feel them in my face and ear. In my genitals under my balls, anus which is most itchy I put always... Now I feel okey. No bites or itchy.. By this time I feel better but I can feel little crawling.. My fingers web, hands have bumps, I soak in hydrogen peroxide with borax, then I can see red blister.. Im very afraid guys, I dont want to pass this to anyone. if you try what I do be careful if you are allergic. Ted helps me with this.. Do I have Scabies?Morgellons? Collembola? anybody out there help me guys.. you can email me: janjanuary11(at)yahoo(dot)com THANKS GOD... THANK YOU EARTH CLINIC... I hope helping each other fellow sufferers on what we have suffer. We can have a new life..."

08/18/2011: Cateyesinok from Tulsa, Ok replies: "I'd have to agree as I've contracted them through my dog having mange and doctors, vets, internet says you cannot see them.. Perhaps her child had lice, I KNOW you can see those as my nieces and nephew had them years ago and some were pretty darn big..

I'm currently treating my dog for sarcoptic mange with lime sulfur dip and myself with lice shampoo as none of the remedies on here has worked for my dog or myself. :( I tried the borax and peroxide and my dog screamed and it did help her belly a tiny bit but she is still fully infested.. I did the borax on myself and no go either.. I've tried vinegar, bleach and almost everything people suggested here with no relief, so I've had to turn to the vet and doctor even though I really didn't want all that harmful chemical on my dog or myself.. Such is life :( I've never had scabies before and it feels so gross"

[YEA]  08/25/2011: Lorisayshey from San Diego, Ca replies: "USE CLOVE OIL!!!! Only thing effective in killing the permithrin-resistant scabies. Better than anything else I've used, 90% cured after 1 week. 1 part clove oil, 3 parts coconut oil or olive oil. Leave on skill 24 hrs a day. Scabies and larvae coming to surface of skin get a taste and die, scabies burrowing into skin get a taste and it kills them in about 15 mins. Keep everything not just clean, but sanitized - 1/2 ounce clove oil in 32 ounce spray bottle and spray EVERYTHING you can every morning every night. Way to get rid of them is reduce the numbers every day, keep things clean, don't give up, be more tenatious than they are! Don't forget to pray and thank the Lord that He put it on my heart to post this to help you all!"

08/29/2011: No More Scabies from Shreveport, Louisiana replies: "I know what you are going through! Here is my story. My son went on a mission trip and came home with scabies. Got the cream treated all family members, washed everything and a few weeks latter I had them from my back to my ankles I am talking everywhere!!! I was the only one that was invested. Went back to the doctor another round of cream! The bites continued for four months it was like I was chasing them all over my body! Tried the borax with peroxide baths twice a day, the anti bacteria lotions , neem oil, tea tree oil, olive oil, jergins lotion with lavender, orange oil, in it. Went through (4) tubes on prescription creams, wash everyday sleeping on a air mattress I felt like a crazy person Was so desperate to get rid of them that I ordered poke root and did that, if someone posted I tried it!

Finally could not take anymore, found a different dermatologist the first one did do a scraping and I did have scabies made a appointment the bites that I have been chasing was fungalitas basically all the oils that I have been putting on my skin got my hair follicles infected, yes they itched and looked just like scabies! He gave me a prescription of sulfur antibiotics, four days later no more bumps. I hope my story helps some one I never want to go through that again!!!"

09/03/2011: Lamda from Princeton, Nj replies: "I am currently very itchy and feel all the creepy crawlers around my body, which is how I got to this site. I have many bug bites that are small, some are bigger but much smaller than mosquito bite. I just don't know if is scabies? or rodent mite? or bird mites? I use tea tree oil on my body bc is the only thing I have available at the moment I don't seem to have any immediate relief, now I just concerned that the smell of the oil is too strong for my baby. I have to buy all the other recommendations as soon as possible. I am currently nursing so I am just praying my baby does not get these things. Is driving me crazy. Just wondering, has anyone ever being helped or got rid off by going to a pool (it has chlorine) or the beach (have salt)? I will try the pool tomorrow since I can go with all my children and not worried about the chemicals. I will post what treatment works best for me. But anyone with children please any recommendations will be helpful. I have a 7year old 4 year old and 10months old. I have seen a few bug bites on my seven year old not the other 2, but I am still concern specially about my youngest."

09/03/2011: Sunshine from Sunshine Somewhere, Usa replies: "I would try natural sea salt in water... That may help. Also, working toward a good ph balance may help too. Apple cider vinegar on the spots may help as well... One other idea is hand sanitizer on spots.

Sea salt maybe the overall best long term help, others have posted much about sea salt and the benefits.

All of these ideas work great for little ones as well."

09/29/2011: Seriously from Atlanta, Ga replies: "I have a little one as well and can't do steroids while I breastfeed but need some direction for curing on a little one..."

12/16/2011: Carolyn from Madison, Wi replies: "Jessence from Sa, TX. am wondering if this was really scabies or something else?"

01/07/2012: Meci from Belleview, Florida replies: "Some of this sounds like morgellons."

01/13/2012: Holistichealings1 from Northbrook, Illinois replies: "For those of you using essential oils, be sure to use "therapeutic" grade oils. Also be careful of clove oil-it is a "hot" oil and be irritating to skin. Also always do a patch test first."

01/20/2012: Gayle from West Columbia, Sc replies: "There are two types of scabies, but it is the same "bug. " The first type is simple to cure with a cream or pill from the doctor or whatever method you use. The second type is crusted scabies in the beginning stages. A person with an imunno deficiency in their system, like herpes complex 1, which is a cold sore, or blisters on the fingers or anywhere on the body. Also, warts may also cause immune problems. As the scabies multiplies, the person feels no itch because he is not able to detect the chemical igE that the scabie releases with feces into the host's pore. The scabies multiply by the hundreds of thousands on the person's skin and no one is the wiser. The person may have some patch of eczema on their body, such as an elbow, face or hair.

Fungus creams cure these patches and no one is the wiser. As the scabies multiply, the person may sometimes have a pin prick bite feeling with no visible bug to bite. The person may sometimes have itchy skin, but lotion heals that. There may be places on the body where the person thinks he has some type of clear wart or mole. It hurts to the touch, but is not otherwise bothersome. The "pimple" is a scabies nest with hundreds of thousands of scabies and eggs in it. The bug continues to multiply until, one day, the igE is too much for the person's bloodstream and he begins to feel the itch, the crawling and the biting these scabies cause. The doctor prescribes the cream and it does not work. The dermatologist says he has herpes simplex or shingles and gives him steroids, which will definitely worsen the scabies condition. The scabies live in the skin and, as the years pass, begin to make brand new nests in each pore of the skin. The scabies are everywhere, in the legs, in the back, in the arms, in the face and even definitely in the hair. This condition is the beginning stages of crusted scabies. There are pictures on the internet of horrible cases of crusted scabies in the last stage, which causes the person to look deformed. The problem is finding a doctor who understands that the condition 1)is highly contagious 2) needs the pill ivermectin or its equvalent 3) needs a cream to be applied for at least three weeks and maybe 6 weeks 4) will require treatment for a long period of time and especially a doctor who understands that all the family needs to be treated, even if they do not have symptoms. If someone has had scabies for years, many people may have been infected and should be informed to prevent an epidemic.

I found Eucerin for very dry skin or Equate, vaseline, diluted amonia, moist tar (a drugist can mix this without a prescription), something sugary that dries on the skin like molasses or syrup and lots of showers helped me through the hell I suffered. Do not take baths, let them go down the drain. Protect others by covering with clothes from head to toe, vacuum very often daily, wash anything worn even for a minute. Put the clothes in a plastic bag to carry to the laundry room to wash or stick in the dryer for 30 min. Don't hug anybody, or touch anybody. Everywhere you walk is contaminated. Crusted scabies has so many scabies, they are visual to the naked eye and their eggs get in the fingers, which is very contagious. To find out more, Gaylestevenson(at)ymail.com. I welcome any questions or comments."

02/02/2012: Teresa from Ridgeland, South Carolina replies: "Hi, Recently a puppy came into my yard that was real sick. I felt so sorry for him that I took him to the vet. They gave me vitamins, antibiotic for him and sent him on his way said he just was sick that is why he was losing his hair. Well, the doc was wrong he had sarcoptic mange, which is scabies and guess who got them me. I have spent 300 dollars on this dog and my family trying to get rid of them. We ran out of money to treat the dog or ourselves so I went online looking for help. I tried the borax and peroxide that helped somewhat.

The vet gave the dog ivermectin and the borax and peroxide baths seems to help. You have to keep your bedding washed and dried everyday you need a mattress cover. Wash them in borax and hot water. I spray everything down with lice spray.

P.S. don't let pets in area until dry and cover food and water well before spray. My mom's dog drank her water after I sprayed and got real sick almost died and I didn't even spray it near the water. I vacuum everyday. My husband and I have so far been able to keep the scabies to just us and the dog. We have my special needs son and my mom and dad live with us and they have not gotten it Thank God. We started using Germ x hand sanitizer on our bodies everytime we felt a little itch we would put it on that spot on top of lice treatment shampoo we put that on at night before bed and leave on for 8 or more hours. We started to get rid of them. I slacked off for 2 days and we got reinfested really fast so we are back on the germx washing and vacuuming and lice shampoo and borax baths for pup and us and it is going away again. All I have to say is keep it up it might take a while but I believe we are on the right track I pray do not slack off- those buggers reinfest fast. ps. puppy is a white long haired 6 month old poodle that is so sweet and smart I think he is the best dog our family is ever had Now if we could just get rid of the bugs that came with him."

02/28/2012: Heaven@zerbo's from Livonia, Mi replies: "I want to let every know that this recipe works for scabies! We used it here on a seer of 7 year old twin boys! We included Sulpher soap and a spray of borax and hydrogen peroxide. As to the comment of "watch them crawl out" I think that was to make a point. So much safer and better than using insecticides! Everything was easy to get. I live in Livonia, Mi and there is a health food store here that has wonderful staff who helped me and told me how to use all these. Like the tea tree is so good to add a drop into my kids hair after shampoo to deter the little critters. Also coconut oil used for moisturizer and cooking, orange oil to clean my wood floors.... All these things I can use for multle purposes! I love this site and thank you for posting this recipe for scabies. Who would of knew? Coconut oil, tea, tree, orange oil, borax, Sulpher soap.... So easy and effective."

02/28/2012: Heaven@zerbo's from Livonia, Mi replies: "WORKS! My twins had scabies from the day care weeks ago and we learned Permethrin is not what I want to expose my bpys to. So I researched on the Earth Clinic website and found this recipe but I changed it a little. 1. Wet skin with natural hand sanitizer made with Thymol extract)
2)first layer with ORANGE OIL
3)second layer raw organic COCONUT OIL.
4) third layer TEA TREE OIL (now brand)
5) within 5 minutes the scabies literally crawled out by the hundreds (scary),
6) leave oil mix on skin for at least 30 minutes,
7) soak in shower and watch the mites run down the drain, and wash with Sulpher soap. 8) disinfect entire home with 1 percent hydrogen peroxide spray and Borax solution (can also spray skin with this). Use borax to spindle on carpet and then vacuum a few days later. 9) Rinse and Repeat
10) RELAX! ... Please follow these 10 easy steps and soon you will be posting the good news. Like I did for twin boys! No more scabies! Yaaaeeeeeee and my boys are safe from pesticide toxicity!"

03/08/2012: Janet from Salem, Or replies: "thanks to original post dated 11/9/2010 I tweaked the recipe.

SKIN TREATMENT RECIPE (can be used as an All Natural Scabies treatment)

Ingredients needed:

• Grocery store: Grapeseed Oil (by Olive Oil)
• Instant Hand Sanitizer w/ Aloe
• Coconut Oil Hair conditioner (in the hair section with Afro-American hair products)
• . 3 fl oz Tea Tree Oil
• . 5 fl oz Sweet Orange essential Oil
• . 5 fl oz Clove Bud essential Oil
• 1 fl oz Neem Oil
• Neem Oil Bar of Soap

MIX:

1. get a used water bottle or container same size of 16 oz. fill half full of Grapeseed Oil
2. Add 3 drops of each; tt, orange, clove and neem oils. Shake well

Half hour before bed get naked. Spread following products from chin line and hair line down. (may need partner to help spread this in unreachable areas). Sanitizer all over, in creases too including private areas. follow with oil mixture, then coat with coconut oil. Walk or stand around for about 30 minutes until absorbed

If treating for Scabies, you can actually look down and where they were not before, you can see gray specs on the skin in places appear (dead bugs)

After 30 minutes, throw on undies, sweat pants and long sleeve thin shirt to sleep in. You want to sleep in your bed overnight with mixture on.

In morning take shower, gather all sheets regardless then wash dirty clothes, and disinfect house (if scabies). Use Neem soap to wash with in shower. If you are concerned about your hair, add few drops of Neem oil to shampoo. Repeat in 3 days after first treatment, then weekly for 3 weeks. Mix ingredients as needed.

Great for dry skin. Mixture actually makes you feel energized. My kids and I did this for scabies, I tried it first time doing it for 30 mins then washing off. Yes you can, if you look closely see the dead bugs if your eyesight is good.

It was more effective following same directions like the Premethrin as far as leaving it on overnight except this was all natural. We repeated treatment after 3 days then weekly for 3 weeks and cleaned everything in the house."

04/19/2012: Cy from Mt. Eden, Ca replies: "Hi all, this is a response to posts claiming that the mother is wrong because one cant see scabies... Yes you can! They are. 3-.45 of a mm (check wikipedia sarcoptic mange)..... Very small but very seeable. Especially when they've turned dark - hello, the little sucker is translucent only until they've filled their bellies with blood. Once they've burrowed you can see their home marked by a brown spot (thats their body and life's work worth of excrement- um ya theyre pooing in there too). The truth is, lots of what we call beauty marks are actually bug resting homes and after their normal two month life cycle has become a graveyard of sorts. Often though, as this is where their eggs are lain, the babies will both colonize their birth burrow and spread out, creating a trail of brown spots/burrows in a cluster. Got them during pregnancy on the inner forearm and thought I was experiencing an allergic reaction to fish. Sooo common are these bugs, maybe Adrian Monk isnt so crazy after all to carry wipes everywhere, haha. 1-10% of people in developed countries are infected and as much as 50-80% of the pop. in some places. Scabies definitely put a damper on my wanderlust... So clean at home : ) im so careful in my clinic now, wear gloves to palpate and inspect patients. Anyways, give that Mom a break. She was being helpful, sheesh!"

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  01/21/2013: Craig` from Sydney, Nsw, Australia replies: "Since becoming infected with scabies I have more little brown moles as well as occasional 'pimples' that are much larger with a harder lump. These lumps are more likely to remain in spite of treatments. Over time they wear down and eventually disappear. Some have remained even after months. My question is: are these bumps and moles (and I think maybe also clear 'warts') active nests even when treatments appear to have killes the mites?

Should they be removed and how is this possible? I have been using natural treatments for over four months. About a month ago I started using clove oil in the 1/3 ratio using coconut oil recommended here. The result was dramatic in terms of improvement. However, a persistent pattern has emerged - more and more parts of my body have stopped showing signs of scabies (as indicated by using an anti-paristic treatment onto the skin after a bath or shower and having mites, larvae, eggs etc rise to the surface of the skin - I believe always dead - as well as an improvement in the skin as lesions, blisters etc clear up). In these cleared up areas, there still remains an occasional persistent bump or an area where there are small brown moles. In addition, there are areas where lesions will not clear up. However certain areas will show no new signs of scabies (eg by no new lesions or no visble dead mites) for several days, only to find signs of the scabies then. This seemes to happen in areas where there are still raised lesions which feel like there is a track along them that won't break down over a long period of time. I now seem to be in a cycle where this occurs, but where the mites are gradually reducing and the return to no visible signs is more frequent. Perhaps, the treatment will eventually beat them.

My concern is that these lumps and moles may have active nests under them. If so, what to do about it? are these nests protected by some encasement or are they so deep that the topical treatments don't get to them? I've been told that the mites burrow into the lymphatic system and that certain treatments such as bleach incite the mites to burrow deeper. The reason I suspect this may be the case is because, I recently started using wild oregano oil (sometimes called wild marjoram) that have high concentrations of carvacol in it. I take this orally as well as putting it onto lesions and lumps topically. If applied to a lump or a lesion which feels like it has a trackline (i find that these are very hard to get rid of, especially on the back), then the oregano oil will seem to break down the lesion or pump a liitle bit. If you keep on rubbing the oil into the area after this happens then sometimes dead mites or eggs will emerge. When this happens there is more likely to be an outpouring of mites etc for a day or two afterwards. After the first few days of doing this, I found some kind of encased eggs (or nests?) be released - these things often were entangled in hairs - by continuing to rub them and pull them off, they tended to pull the hair out and seemed to be attached to the hair follicle. I have a great deal of trouble working out what all these things are when they are released from the skin - is it a good sign of improvement or a bad sign or is it indicative of something else? Are these eggs or nests or mites or faeces dead? are they dead after treatment while being under the lump or mole? I believe everything that leaves the skin after treatments is dead, but I can't work out if the stuff in the skin is dead or alive. The other thing I would note is that this stage of treatment is less likely to show signs of larvae leaving the skin which I found to be more common in earlier treatments with neem oil. What are other perople's experiences? should these moles and lumps be removed and, if so, how? or do they eventually just rise to the surface?

I find it interesting that oregano oil is not mentioned as being a natural treatment for scabies very much. It has anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-parasitic properties to name just a few of its benefits. It would appear to kill all stages of the scabies' life cycle (although I still use clove oil daily as it kills the eggs).

There was an earlier posting about the difference between scabies in healthy and immuno-suppressed people - clearly, chronic infection is a symptom of immune problems which require a holistic approach to better health. I suspect that any chronic scabies condition needs some internal treatment (this is why western medicine uses ivermectin) - oregano oil taken internally appears to reach the scabies as evidenced by an initial worsening of itching and a flare up of the skin condition. The breaking down of persistent pumps would appear to follow this, along with the outpourings of dead things (and maybe live mites). I am only into the second week of using the oregano oil, so I can't determine success yet. Unfortunatley, clove oil alone didn't eliminate the problem. I've been on anti-parasitic internal remedies for a while, which have had a great improvement on digestive issues but not on the sacbies until I started taking the oregano oil. [One company's] health advice is tackle this parasite along with the elimination of internal parasites and toxins, along with liver detoxification and other measures to improve natural immunity. This can only be beneficial to well being, however the task seems very onerous. Sometimes I feel so exhausted and desiring of a break from the disciplined self/environmental regimes for treating chronic scabies. I hope I can endure and have success soon!"

[YEA]  12/23/2012: Bart from Bel Air, Md: "Scabies - I have 90% relief using amber colored Original Listerine, not the blue listerine. After shower, put on gloves and apply listerine all over. Keep out of eyes. But can use on face. Air dry or blow dry, then take half a lemon, apply all over, let dry. Then apply coconut oil all over. Try to do this 2x day."

01/25/2013: Lou from Tyler, Tx replies: "I'm not sure what I have going on, but I've been losing my hair. I tried the blue Listerine (it has thymol--anti-parisitic) on my eyebrows and eyelid margins. I haven't put it in my hair. I did read in a dog cure website to slice lemons and boil. Let steep overnigtht and use as a final rinse on hair the next day. Hope this helps. Worked for me! They are back, though. I also poured seabucktorn juice on as a final rinse. It relieved it for a while. Last night I applied a lot of mayonnaise with a shower cap and took a bath in peroxide and borax a couple of hours later. Better.

I used to drink Constant Comment tea with cloves. I may start doing that again."

[YEA]  09/26/2008: Shellie from Delaware, USA: "I tried ___ bodywash, an antibacterial soap. It helps with any skin condition like scabies, acne, any sores that spread on body. I am unsure what I have but resembles scabies & sores people get with fibromyalgia that sometimes itch & burn & spread. What antibacterial ___ does (may be other soaps as well like safeguard my mom says helped for shingles) is peels off the swelling/sores & they are gone. Unfortunately they will come back if you dont treat with a chemical free remedy. U can do a google search to find out where to buy an inexpensive cure."

[NAY]  02/12/2009: Renate from Jacksonville, Florida replies: "I have had scabies for about a year and tried the antibacterial soap route and it doesn't work. At least not for me. These are feisty little creatures we are dealing with and as we know the Permethrin cream doesn't work."

[YEA]  08/11/2009: Jeanannesooter from Winfield, Kansas replies: "I will tell I don't know what was bitting me but ___ Antibacterial WORKS I been trying to get rid of this for 3 years. and I had sores all over big ones there going away in 2 days time wow I'm happy and also Orange Oil. Mine is going away I'm so thankfull to e1 on this web sit I put the Orange Oil; on left it for a day then Just wash your self with the ___ Antibacterial and you will see it go away"

12/25/2009: Ann from Greenville, Nc replies: "Where do you purchase neem or orange oils? I asked my local drug store for sulphur soap and they dont supply such? Tired of the itch from scabies.... any info will be helpful."

12/25/2009: Brygivrob from Escondido, Ca replies: "I searched the website where I buy vitamins and herbs, and all three items you want are there. We cannot post brand or company names, so just search online supplement companies, or email me at brygivrob@yahoo.com and I will give you the info."

02/01/2010: Angela from Smalltown, Bc Canada replies: "Antibacterial soap was a good help for hands and other exposed areas. I did not get red bumps on my hands at any time during my scabies outbreak. It also made me feel a little more secure knowing that the scabies was less likely to be passed along after I had washed my hands with antibacterial soap.

WASH HANDS OFTEN!

Some other things I did were:

- I used permethrin. Although it didn't completely work, it did lessen the problem slightly giving me an edge on it. I did two treatments overall in three weeks

- I washed everything I touched/wore with 1/2 cup borax and the regular amount of laundry detergent in hot water. I then dried clothing bone dry (very important).

- I kept clean laundry in separate containers from all other clothing and only used clean clothes. This may mean that you will end up washing everything in your wardrobe eventually, but it's better than having scabies.

- I put anything that couldn't be washed in the freezer for a minimum of 4 days or you could dry clean. I live remotely, so that's not possible here.

- I did not wear clothing more than once and changed sheets/pillow cases daily being very careful in how I handled everything, gloves are a good idea. Consider anything unwashed as toxic and deal with it accordingly.

- I did not sit on any soft furniture for minimally 3 weeks, I sprayed it with bleach water and covered it with diotamaceous earth. If you must use yours, try to sterilize it then cover it with a fresh sheet and change that regularly. I don't have a vacuum, so I will wait to deal with it when I believe all scabies are dead. I am only sitting on vinyl or wooden chairs at the moment.

- You may hear that scabies live for only up to 72 hours, but I think it is a good idea to assume they can live for up to 3-4 weeks and proceed accordingly. It's better to be safe than reinfect yourself the way I did.

- I disinfected bathroom and other surfaces every time I used them - don't forget the toilet seat, hard chairs, computer, telephone, driver's wheel, books, etc. Wipe down anything you touch regularly, even being careful with the toilet paper. Remember, everything you touch is a potential site for reinfection

- I covered my mattress with a plastic sheet which I sprayed down daily with bleach and let dry. I also sprinkled diotamaceous earth on it before sleeping there. In the morning I would remove all bedding and put it directly into the laundry basket and then go clean myself.

- I slept just with a sheet and a hot water bottle to ease laundry woes.

- I turned the heat up in the house. It helps with drying out the critters and also lets you wear less clothing, therefore less laundry

- I made a spray bottle with water and used a mixture of at least 3 essential oils: peppermint, citronella, tea tree, eucalyptus, oregano, neem oils (approximately 20 drops of each to a regular sized spray bottle). The ones most recommended for scabies are: tea tree, neem, orange, citronella, lavender, ginger, or black pepper. I just used what I could get.

- I bathed twice a day with approx. 10-20 drops of tea tree oil in my bath. make sure you soak your hair and head as well.

- I covered my skin and even my hair with diotomaceous earth at night before sleeping. I just sprinkled it on and rubbed it in while being careful not to breathe it in.

- I washed floors at least twice a day with bleach or vinegar water and also sprinkled diotamaceous earth around the floors.

- I rolled up and put outside all carpets. I will deal with these in a few weeks by sprinkling with diotamaceous earth, leaving them for a couple of days and then shaking them out, or preferably, vacuuming them. I will then wipe them down with bleach water or essential oils.

- Steam cleaning is recommended for carpets and furniture, but i don't have access, so I have to resort to other ways

- I sprinkled diotamaceous earth in my shoes and also sprayed them with essential oil mix or bleach water

- I also sprayed down all coats or put them in a hot dryer for 20 min

- I sprayed down curtains and anything i touched, ie light switches regularly

- I always wore clean socks and tried to keep all my skin covered to prevent reinfection from my environment ie long sleeves, long pants, long, thick socks

- I have been drinking 2 tbsp apple cider vinegar daily in order to alkaline my body, other suggestions are green tea, neem tablets, 8 glasses of water a day with a few drops of peppermint oil, cloves, garlic, onions

- I put neem oil cream or tea tree oil directly on my body wherever i felt an itch and at night I would use it all over my body.

- stay away from eating sugar

- take magnesium/calcium supplements

I have been EXTREMELY DILIGENT with all of this and it seems to be working. It has been a few days now of being pretty much symptom free. Wish me luck! I wish you luck. This is a horrible and very humbling thing to go through, but I do believe that it can be overcome. I sincerely hope this information will help you. Good luck."

03/18/2010: Angela from Smalltown, Bc replies: "I just wanted to add a few more details to my previous post. I unfortunately got reinfected by mistakenly putting on a wool sweater that hadn't been washed. It is just so easy to keep getting this. Diligence and complete daily discipline to cleanliness are the only solutions.

Also, I found that having scabies really drained me of energy. My body was doing its best to fight it off, but it was exhausting and deprived me of any motivation. These beasties know how to make their host weak. I think it is important to know that so that you can fight it mentally when you are tired physically. You must get up and do that laundry, eat well, clean your body, no matter how hard it feels.

I have now managed to get rid of this horrid pest, but the residual itch still freaks me out occasionally.

Also I wanted to say that the 5% permethrin cream did work, but for a couple of days it felt like it didn't work and in fact made me feel like things were even worse. The orange essential oil has been a godsend also. I still put it on and in my bath just out of comfort because it definitely helps and calms me down at the same time.

You CAN get rid of this thing. But it may take a few repeated treatments over a few months as it did for me. I wish you all the best."

12/10/2011: Sick Of Scratching from Uk, Midlands replies: "My mum in a really lovely care home contracted scabies back in july, after several visits from the GP a diagnosis was reached and treatment commenced. - she is still infected and so are three members of my family! - we have tried lots of the above tea tree oil, coconut oil, neem oil, and sulphar soap and bathing twice a day (doesnt help but makes me feel clean) also washing everything after one wear including used towels after bathing - all the bedding washed on a daily basis - all very time consuming!

After some big scratching the other night and my skin feeling like it was crawling I decided to use a clothing lint roller (like selotape for clothes) but I ran it over the severely itchy areas on my body which felt a good bit less itchy and also collected any little critters roaming around on the surface (RESULT) - I am now taking this a little futher after rollering I am applying either sticky dressing pads to major bite areas or bits of microporous tape across the little bumps cause the little buggers once caught on the tape cannot move including any new ones crawling out. Also lint roller very good for going over soft furnishings after hoovering to collect any strays - quite effective up to now. - early days will keep you posted."

11/16/2010: Rita from Ekron, Ky, Usa: "In ruling out what could be causing the terrible itching that I've had for the past month I came across this website two nights ago. I was sure that I had seen Apple Cider Vinegar mentioned as one of the cures but after going thru three pages of posts tonight was unable to find Apple Cider Vinegar mentioned in anyway when talking about scabies. Does anyone know how it might be used for a cure? Have used the borax, peroxide soak three times so far and still itching almost if not as bad as I was when I realized I have scabies and have had a new outbreak in the last few minutes."

[YEA]  12/21/2010: Parasite Hunter from Bongor, Me replies: "I doubt that this would manifest a 'cure' for scabies, but it could make them leave your body. When you take Apple Cider Vinegar it detoxes the digestive system like Drano and cleans the system so rapidly WATCH OUT I've used it when I am really ill. It can cure things because it makes you an unwanted host. I suggest fasting off of sugar (even take less fruit) and spices. All inner parasites look for a negative terrain to run rampant. Use the Cider Vinegar! I just went for mine and I'm out. No funds for it or else I'd be on it now."

[YEA]  03/11/2012: Amy from Richland, Washington: "It all started when my boyfriend came home very itchy! We had two months in to our new apartment, also bought a new bedding set, new comforter set, NEW EVERYTHING! We thought perhaps the itching was brought on by dust, chemicals from his job, or something so simple as dry skin. Sadly, we were wrong! This is where our worst living nightmare came to life. The scratching got so bad and the most scratching happened when we were in bed trying to sleep and that never became possible. We would finally be able to sleep when our eyes couldn't take it any longer! In the morning is when we noticed the most bumps on my boyfriends rear and in between both our thighs. Two whole weeks went by, I would wonder to the store at night when the itching was unbearable because we both felt things crawling in a sense. SO I HAVE TRIED IT ALL! Cortizone creams, Cortaid sprays, Zyrtec Allergy pills, Benadryl. NOTHING over the counter got rid of this awful itching. Finally it came down to a night where I was so frustrated and spent hours in an emergency room to find out what my hubby and I had. SCABIES was the first word the doctor said! Thanks to Google, I later found out what this horrible parasite was. Sleep was out the window for sure! The doctor prescribed Permethrin cream. Shit sucked! Tried it twice and still nothing. So don't even waste your time with these doctor visits. One doctor prescribed me with Eurax 10% Lotion which was only available at one Rite Aid pharmacy for the price of $400! Crazy right, and no I didn't buy. Wasn't going to throw more money away for something that might have came back to haunt me.

So thanks to all the research online, I came across here. Read everyones stories and let me tell you, I know how it feels to have these disgusting things crawling around in your skin. It's mortifying and I will ever be the same.

When I came home from the first doctor visit I rushed to have everything washed in HOT water. I began to start washing piece by piece every single clothing we had and that became impossible. So now we have collected only a few pieces of clothing that we can wear over and over after washing over and over, manly pj's because we have been confined to these apartment walls. Every other piece of clothing and blanket I put in plastic bags tightly sealed and in front of the sun. They have to be on the skin to survive right? In those bags they will stay for a week so they can die completely!

I started up my bath and dropped a cup of bleach with the hottest water our bodies could take, following with sitting in there for a good 15-20 minutes. Washed our bodies with Sulfur soap and a all natural lavender soup to rinse off with. And when we got out we lightly dried ourselves and again rubbed some more bleach and water mixer, applying more amounts in the places where we both needed the most. I slept through the night for the first time in a month after doing this. Minor itches here and there, yes. The results are there, BLEACH is the cure for these things. Constant day to day cleaning of everything in your home and everything you touch. We washed and cleaned the carpets as an obsession that maybe they were all over the carpet. Now everything I clean I wipe down with bleach!

At first I found all of this very tiring but it's a routine one literally has to make part of their life to get rid of this condition. I have never came across with anyone besides my boyfriend and myself who has experienced this and I don't ever wish it upon anyone!

Right now we are going through the baths and constant cleaning to fight these off and little by little I know these suckers will give up with my "bleaching baths," as I like to call them.

I hope this is helpful to some like it was so very helpful to me! Many good lucks go out the the people experiencing this and trying to find ways to get rid of these suckers. Above all have faith that things will get better and that this will pass:)"

07/05/2012: Scabie No! from New York, Ny replies: "I wanted to add my cent to this nightmare. Anyway no more bites still dealening with crawlies and pinpricks. I thight I was cured bc I wasn't getting bites and wasn't really itchy. Well the crawling on my face and head was driving me nuts. And I did treat the face and head and body with permethirn like 20 times ( no joking) and also did ivermectin it is very helpful but sometimes not curative depending if it makes it to te skin or not. Some livers seems to fight the venom more than others but there is a high cure among many. Except myself. Although I am trying it again bc I was showering after my dose and that washes off the oil of skin and also the ivermetin that kill them.

If you get lucky and ask your doctor for ivermectin( aka Stromectol ) ask him to give at least 3 doses at 250mc per kilo. Take it in the evening and do not eat 3hours prior the dose. Only drink grapefruit before and after and that will extend the efficacy of this med. Take it with any oil I took fish oil like 4 pills and this is very information do not take a shower for 2 days and keep the permethrin for 24 hours or more. 12 hours is not enough. Scabies in America are becoming resistant to permethirn. Everyone knows that.

Now I am also doing bleach baths and after the bath I am doing a 8 hour castor oil with Tea tree oil. Castor oil suffocated them big time. I did it. I did the castor for the first time last night bc I wanted to know if I was cured or not, due the lack of tracks bites etc and itchness but surely enough I was shocked bc once you do the castor oil wait like 15 minutes and they go crazy!!!!! The good thing about these bastards is that they need oxygen u cut that and you kill a lot. Now you have to continue this for like 6 weeks due to eggs."

08/22/2012: Birdsong from Salisbury, Australia replies: "I would be very cautious using bleach on exposed skin. My sister ended up in hospital with an Asthma attack with no previous history of Asthma, or future occurances of Asthma like symptoms, after breathing it in simply using it as a household cleaner!

As with any treatment, I have found it wise to ask oneself, do the possible benefits outweigh the risks? Just a thought."

[YEA]  08/03/2012: D from Houston, Tx: "I contracted an itchy rash from the man I had been seeing for the last 6 months. He travels quite a bit for work and he became symptomatic before me and the doctor said it was contact dermatitis. But that doesn't spread to others. After I started itching, I realized the doctors were wrong. But then couldn't find anything until this website. The fact that people were so frank and not scared to say... this worked for me.

Tonight is my first attempt at the Bleach/Peroxide bath and this is the first I have not wanted to peel my skin off in days. After the bath I took a hot scrub shower, and then sprayed myself with a water/bleach mix(4/1) and dryed with a hair dryer. Then slathered in tea tree oil.

I hope that everyone tries this. INSTANTLY better. Now begins the battle of cleaning, cleaning, cleaning!

But thank you to everyone who shared an alternative to doctors and pesticides."

10/03/2012: Lee81 from Charlotte, Nc replies: "I have been reading all the post regarding the bleach and peroxide baths and was wondering could I do this for a 15 month old if not what can I do?"

10/03/2012: Using Common Sense Helps from Anywhere, Usa replies: "PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS ON YOUR CHILD!! A child's skin is much more delicate than an adults and you could burn his skin (and yours) with bleach. Not knowing what is causing the rash, have him checked for allergies. In the meantime.... I have used generic Milk of Magnesia for rashes on my grandson that helped greatly. Stops the itching and clears it up. NO CHEMICALS!"

10/04/2012: Wayseeker from Modesto, Ca/ Usa replies: "I totally agree about not using bleach on a baby.

If this is for a diaper rash, you could try a Lemon and warm water soak, with some Essiac tea (goes by FlorEssence also) splashed in, and a couple of drops of Rosemary Oil. This could really help. Keep the soaking water out of baby's hands due to hand-to-eye impulse.

I have had great success with yeast with this warm soak. Don't use the rosemary or lemon unless you will keep the soak water out of childs reach and eyes! One way is to do a soaked compress on baby's bottom, and so avoid the splashing into eyes concern alltogether. --T."

10/04/2012: Karen from Clarkston, Mi replies: "Bleach is NOT good for any contact by any human being. Study and google the effects of clorine before suggesting to people to use it."

10/04/2012: Scabiesbegone from Charlotte, Nc replies: "What can I use to treat a 12 month old with scabies? Please help!"

10/05/2012: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Wayseeker: and I have had great success with only coconut oil."

10/05/2012: Wayseeker from Modesto, Ca/ Usa replies: "Hi there! Not to scare you or anything, but many people have what is presently called Morgellons, and their first understanding is that they have scabies. Unfortunately, this is much more difficult to control or get rid of than scabies. Please try not to be afraid, if you look into it, as fear itself is very destructive, and makes this problem much worse. It almost teaches one to neccesarily "walk in balance," if you will.

That said, there are a number of things written online about modalities that have helped. The biggest concern is that your child is very young, and so you must treat with care, and under a doctor's supervision.

Is the child breasfed? Was the child only recently given solid foods? There is the possibility of dealing with a food allergy. I would check the listings on this site under both, if they are there.

I believe that anything that kills parasites, or builds immunity could help. There is something called Clarkia, which is essentially clove, wormwood, black walnut hulls. Again, I do not know if safe for an infant, so check with M. D. I had to inform my doctor about Morgellon's, who had no idea, and then he later said, "Everyone has it."

Colloidial silver may help. Essiac tea helps. I have had much success with Vit C lately, and also believe in drinking warm water and lemon. Morgellons hates coconut oil... Capsules, on a spoon, or topically. Sulphur soap is very soothing. Beta Glucans of various types seem to help. I have used many types, and like Immutol. Some use diatomaceous earth (DE). You must proceed with caution with a baby, and perhaps see a specialist or dermatologist. I would almost suggest staying with breastfeeding as much as possible.

I am learning much about undenatured, grass-fed origin, whey and glutathione, and believe that it approximates, or is, the best part of raw milk, which is an incredible healer, based on old books now out of print, one of which I just finished reading. Revelation speak about this: "They shall all eat whey."

No sugar, no bread, no juice. Pineapple is a good anti-parasitical, especially the hard inner core... Can chew on it or juice it. Lots of fresh organic veges and good water, not tap. Tap has flouride which destroys the immune system. That's enough for now. Know that many people are also suffering with this, worldwide, and is possibly contagious, or so it appears, or else only becomes a problem with weakened immune systems. After all that, perhaps it is just scabies, which is much easier to heal, by cleanliness and enzymes spray. But I doubt it. Remember that knowledge is power. Babe in prayers. --T."

10/05/2012: Citygirl27 from Richardson, Tx, Usa replies: "Coconut Oil all over. Easy peasy, non-toxic if they lick it, no prescription needed, smells yum, and apply as often as you like. Coconut oil smothers the mites and heals the spots. First few times you may want to bathe them 30-60 minutes afterwards, as black flecks will come out noticeably. Also, lemon juice works wonders on any bumps without broken skin, as in a lemon wedge."

Bleach and Water

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Bleach and Water Cure for Scabies

Home Remedy Ingredients:

• Bleach - 1 part (e.g., 1 Tablespoon)
• Water - 4 parts (e.g., 4 Tablespoons)

Dilute one part bleach in four parts water and spray onto the affected skin once or twice a day. Bleach is a strong chemical agent, so always be careful in your dilution and application!

Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak

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Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak for Scabies

Alternative Remedy Ingredients:

• Hot Bath
• Borax -1 Cup
• Hydrogen Peroxide - 1/2 Cup

Draw a hot bath. Add one cup of borax detergent and one half cup of peroxide to the bathwater and bathe as usual. Once you get in the tub, the itching should stop immediately and you should see improvement within a couple of days. Repeat daily as needed.

11/30/2011: Bitemenot from Radcliff, Ky replies: "-DAY 1 of treatment,

-Acute infestation, possibly under a week, 3 people (one is a 3yr old), two adults showing signs of infestation.

So about two weeks ago a friend of my wife possibly brought over some friends of her own (scabies). Though her friend claims it is psoriasis all of the indicators point to scabies. All of the girls friends within the last few months have broken out with a rash. Now two weeks after the girl spends the night on our couch, my wife is diagnosed with scabies and two days later I am. It started as just a few bumps we assumed were a reaction to an antibiotic, then it spread, waving and waning. Thighs, then hips, then back, then legs, now face. Then we found out about the girls other friends breaking out. I immediately began research upon my wifes diagnosis, spent roughly 12 hours of straight research.

Her doctor prescribed her Ivermectin, , my doctor did as well, I am not real fond of the idea of using such a powerful pesticide like chemical in my body. Besides, we have a 3 year old and we are sure not putting it in her , so we are exploring safer alternatives first.

Although I was hesitant to bathe (and my wife is extremely sceptical) with Borax, which some places inisist is toxic. I decided it couldnt be any less safe externally bathing in the stuff than digesting/metabolizing pesticide.

Tonight I soaked for about 30 minutes in a bath(super hot) of a little more than half a cup of borax and a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide (walmart didnt have the 35%). Letting each different part of my body soak for 10 minutes at a time, legs, chest/back neck, face /head/scalp. BTW I did spot test the Borax as I suggest anyone do before spreading/bathing with a unfamiliar chemical across a large surface area of your body. I just started showing epidermal indicators (bumps) today and my wife 3 days ago, so I do not believe our infestation to be to severe. We are cleaning the house thoroughly with the Borax as well. My daughter was a little itchy last night, but otherwise exhibits no signs at the moment.

The original suspected carrier continues to proclaim to be diagnosed with psoriasis or egzima, with recent visit to hospital (ER), and months ago by a dermatologist.

I'll keep yall updated on the effectiveness of treatment."

12/22/2011: Teena from Kelowna, Bc Canada replies: "Use Kleen Green it is an enzyme cleaner all natural product it works. Lookup company on website! It will get rid of scabies & many other infestations."

01/12/2012: Hayden from Nz replies: "My battle against these creatures was a full blown chemical assault. Borax was used for cleaning clothes, and also combined with hydrogen peroxide to mist around the house and on my skin after a shower. I also used orange oil extract, clove oil, coconut oil and two different types of chemical scabies treatments I alternated between, and used twice over 3 weeks. (be careful as they can be an accumulative poison if used too much) My concoction of chemicals cost around 120 us dollars, but was well worth it. (the two treatments I used were 'Derbac M' and 'Benhex Cream')

I actually got a little depressed after reading about the resilience these vermin can have. I've never done so much laundry :)

Anyone waging this war has my sympathy, but keep up with the cleaning and you'll preserver. I met my nemesis face to face at work as I dug 5 or 6 them out of my hand under a microscope. Needless to say I kept my secret quiet whilst worrying that I'd pass them on to someone else. I think there's a automatic association people make between scabies and uncleanliness/bad hygiene. I know I did, but to my relief I learned this isn't the case.

I'm contributing my story due to the appreciation I have for the advice people have given. I'm itching just thinking about the whole ordeal.

I had an allergic reaction to the mites which would bring up itchy bumps all over my stomach / legs. Try not to scratch these as they are not the mites, and will leave you with red bumps all over the show. I took antihistamines to alleviate the irritation, and in turn make life bearable.

Good luck :)"

[YEA]  06/07/2012: Justin from Melbourne, Florida replies: "After two rounds of Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide I am feeling much better, keeping with the treatment, relief feels great after days of getting worse. Thanks!"

08/05/2011: Joel from Porterville, Ca, United States replies: "Hey I read your post annd I was hoping if you can help me out with the same problem that you had?"

08/25/2011: Dot from Houston, Tx replies: "Hi, can you clarify if its the Borax pesticide sold in Home Depot, or Borax soap sold in the detergent isles at the stores? Also, how old were your children, I have a toddler and want to make sure it wont damage her skin. Thanks"

10/20/2011: Pixel from Grand Rapids, Michigan replies: "This worked for me. I have had scabies twice. The first time I just went to the doctor and got permetherin creme. After the first application it helped, but came back strongly in a week. I did a second dose and that finished the job. A year later I broke out with it in Germany. I looked into getting the creme again, but learned that in Germany the government requires you to report that you have scabies and they treat you and essentially quarantine you.

So I found this forum while looking for over the counter cures. I did some bleach baths, which seemed to help, but definately did not cure me. I then did the borax and Hydrogen peroxide baths, which worked perfectly. The results were immediate and compelling, but I did daily baths for a few days. I didn't want to take chances, so I did a few more baths over the next three weeks just in case I got reinfected from clothing or something, because I had not taken the time to steralize everything. I have been scabie free for about 8 months now. I feel much better about soaking in borax than rubbing permethrine cream all over my body. I believe borax is much safer, but I am not a doctor. I wish all doctors had the knowledge an honest to give out this proven cure."

10/25/2011: Thank God For This from Laporte, Indiana, Usa replies: "Ok I have been suffering from scabies for about 6 or 7 months now. I have been back and forth to the doctor and they keep prescribing premethrin cream... IT DOES NOT WORK... Huge waste of money. I have applied and reapplied over and over needless to say with little results... I tried putting SSS from avon all over my body to help get rid of this I put it in my hair it seemed to help a little bit but I noticed that it gave me pimple like bumps all over me. I told the doctor it was in my hair she said that it does not get in the hair... Which is a load of crap because that was where it was the worst. I know I got it from the laundromat I was working at... The washers kept flooding and I ended up soaked with the dirty water every time I worked. The place didnt have hot water ever. So people who would come in to clean their clothes would press hot and either get luke warm or cold water. So if someone had scabies and thought they were washing in hot water they werent and I was wearing that nasty water for 8 hours.

This site has ended up as a life saver. I just got done with the first soak in the tub. I itched like crazy when I first got in. I had it really hot that is probably why. I am noticing that the itching has already stopped for the moment. I didnt rince it off I let it air dry hope that was right. I am cleaning and cleaning and doing laundry like crazy with borax. I am going to mix borax non clorine bleach and water to spray on my carpets, beds, in the car and going to wash all the floors with borax bleach and mr clean. Or should I used flea spray? I have washed out the dressers with borax mr clean and water. I am washing all the blankets and sheets and keeping the clothes away from the ones that were in the dresser until I can rewash them in borax. I have bleached my pillows and dried on high heat in the dryer and placed vinyl covers on them and the bed. Is there anything else I need to do to make sure that I dont get this crap back? It has been going on long enough...

I am going to continue the soaks for the next week. Skin seems dry so I got some Cocoa Butter Lotion to put on my skin. Or would lavender baby lotion be better? I hope this works because I am so tired of my head and coochie and under my breasts under my arms and legs itching like crazy. I need a good nights sleep for once. I am exhausted.

Another thing should I treat my cat and dog too? The cat seems to be itching which she does when she eats stuff she isnt supposed to have (my room mate feeding her crap from the table) but the dog isnt itching at all. They both sleep in my bed. Spoiled rotten lol. I was thinking of making some of the treatment into a paste and dab it on her itchy spots as well. Would it hurt her?

It has been an hour and no itching at all... This is wonderful... OMG I feel great... For the first time in months I don't itch at all..."

11/03/2011: Anna from Ca replies: "Hi
Kindly could you advice me about the borax?! I am from uk and I can't find it in stores so while searching online I came across different types of borax starting from homemade borax to MULE team cleaning products and borax powder.
Kindly advice urgently as I am suffering with the scabies

Regards"

11/10/2011: Theresa from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Anna from Ca :

20 Mule Team Borax and borax powder should be the same thing: from the 20 Mule Team site:

20 Mule Team Borax is comprised of 99.5% pure borax, a naturally occurring mineral composed of sodium, boron, oxygen, and water. (The scientific name for borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate.)

Cheers. Good luck!"

08/07/2011: Anonymous from Waukesha, Wi replies: "I personally, add 2 cups of bleach and 2 large bottles to a very hot bath! Then 2 cups of borax and a large container of seasalt... Hope it helps!"

11/11/2011: Theresa from Seattle, Wa Usa replies: "Uk8284 from Nottingham, United Kingdom :

The over-the-counter Hydrogen Peroxide here is 3%; just the usual HP bought for disinfecting wounds. Hope that helps. I'm not sure how much to use, there are lots of different recipes out there."

08/13/2012: Jayne from London, Uk replies: "I'd also like to know what percentage Hydrogen Peroxide you put in the bath? I have the 3%, is that strong enough? And how many cups/ml?? Thanks."

04/02/2011: Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia, Australia replies: "Try household bleach in the bath water. I cup to a tub of water. Do the scalp too"

04/14/2011: Anonymous from Waukesha, Wi/usa replies: "Using bleach in bath water (1-2cups ONLY) is not toxic to you. It's about equal to a clorinated pool! I wouldn't recommend this as a daily regimen! It's not a first choice for your skin, BUT it will work for SCABIES! The thing with scabies/bleach is to basically shock the mites! It will kill them, if done, with somewhat normal (healthy) skin! If your skin is severe (DO NOT USE BLEACH). Use TTO and menthol powder or lotion, until the skin gets back to a more healthier state! The permethrin can be watered down and used daily over bad areas! WHEN skin is in a healthly state, take a bleach bath! Do add a small bottle of hydrogen peroxide to HOT AS YOU CAN STAND water... Use alot of after bath moisturizer! The thing to remember when using bleach, is that if your skin (in damaged skin) and you keep using bleach, although it may kill some mites, the female who is deeper in your skin to begin with, will burrow deeper!!! So-skin somewhat healthy. Hot water to open the pores. Hydrogen peroxide to allow the bleach to soak into your skin! When skin is still wet, LOTS of moisturizer!!! LOTS OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU SUFFERING =)"

04/14/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "One of the most effective remedies for scabies is tea tree oil. Tea tree oil has safely been used for decades to heal many ailments, from insect bites to acne. Tea tree oil has antifungal, as well as antibacterial, properties. Tea tree oil works by absorbing and penetrating into the lower layers of the skin, killing the parasite. Tea tree oil also kills the eggs that have been laid by the parasite, preventing reinfestation.

Instructions via the link:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5063047_treat-scabies-tea-tree-oil.html"

06/16/2012: I Hate Scabies! from Leonardtown, Md replies: "So I recently learned that I have scabies for the third time within three years (all during summer time). It doesn't seem to have left my community & I feel so paranoid about every itch! I found out before I even showed symtoms (my boyfriends roommates thankfully let us know in time). To add to the scabies problem we've been dealing with fleas for almost a year now too! It sounds trashy I'm sure, but believe me, it's driving me & my boyfriend insane. It's hard to get stuff taken care of when unfortunately not everyone see's eye to eye on how to handle it. CRAZY RIGHT?! It shouldn't even be a discussion, just get the pests OUT. Period. THE END! But no, that is not the case, sadly.

Any ways. We have been using cold pressed neem oil twice a day for the past week or two & it was really doing a good job at controlling it, but it's getting worse. So we decided to start taking the HP & Borax baths. The first time I took the bath I did not air dry & then used the neem oil head to toe. Everything seemed fine. Two days later I was able to make the time for a second bath. I air dried this time & used a lot of neem oil. The next day I cleaned an entire basement in sweat pants & a hoodie (which really opened up my pores, ) noticed a little redness on my skin, especially my chest & neck. After cleaning I took a hot shower (also really opening up my pores) & used more neem oil after I dried off with a towel, this time I think I used just a tad too much on my chest & neck. I was very red by the time I finished but didn't notice anything wrong until later that night when my neck & chest were scary red & I had odd bumps every where. I got so confused as to whether it was just the reaction or if all those little red bumps were scabies that just became visible all of a sudden. I showered again before bed to see if it would help the reaction & the next morning rubbed coconut oil on me to soothe the itch & to see how my skin might react. Around one in the morning I took some benadryl to reduce the redness & bumps. It only helped a little so I went to the ER at about 7 in the morning to see if there was any advice a doctor might have, of course it's usually not much help. I can NOT go through this again, it's miserable, as any one with scabies would know. Right now I'm struggling with an allergic reaction & scabies & fleas. I am planning to try the borax but on a smaller area (had to learn the hard way) to see if it is what caused the reaction. Or just the combo of everything I had on my skin. I gave my skin a break from everything, which worries me a bit considering how quickly scabies appear but I don't want to make anything worse for my skin!

So my point to this post is to always test a product before getting into a hot bath with it & be more cautious about the things you put on your skin. Especially if you're like me with sensitive skin. It sucks to have scabies. But it sucks even more to have scabies & then a bad allergic reaction. I really wish the best of luck to any one with this infestation. The first time I didn't even know what it was till three months later (thanks to an idiot doctor who told me I was fine & had no idea what was wrong -_-). I will be paranoid for probably the rest of my life. I plan to keep up the cleaning & hopefully I can continue my treatment if my skin heals, for about a month if not the rest of my summer. Maybe I'll have a nice summer next year?

GOOD LUCK!"

12/07/2010: Merryanne from Orange City, Florida, Usa replies: "To Deb in KY, God bless you, and all the loving Grandmas."

02/07/2011: Courtney from Schenectady, Ny replies: "Thanks for all of the advice! Seriously, this is the only website that I have actually found useful advice on! I found Borax and want to use it on my skin but I do not have a tub in my apartment. Does anyone know of another effective way to use the Borax treatment without having to soak in it? Can I put it in a spray bottle and spray it on? I know you are supposed to leave it on but do you leave it on until your next shower? I'm literally going insane here! Any advice will help!! Thanks in advance!! "

02/07/2011: Lily from Brisbane, Queensland, Australia replies: "Hi Courtney, yes you can put borax in a spray bottle and leave it on for as long as it feels good to you! Try maybe an hour before showering at first and leave on longer if need be next time. About maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the bottle borax, the rest water. Lily."

03/28/2011: Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia, Australia replies: "Hi there,

With all my experimenting with scabies I have come to the conclusion that 2 remedies are required. One to kill the mites and one to kill the larvae. Hydrogen peroxide rubbed onto bumps seems to kill the larvae. I used some of my 12% cream hair peroxide on new bumps and immediately could see a white head appear on the bump. Im guessing that this is peroxide entering through the burrow and fizzing on the larvae.

For the mites I would use eucalyptus oil all over my body and scalp and leave for a couple of hours. The eucalyptus is similar to borax because it comes from that camphor/menthol family. It does not irritate skin. I used it full strength with no problems but some sites say you must dilute it with a carier oil. The next day I used 3% peroxide on my scalp and rubbed it vigorously into my scalp so it could get to any burrows and larvae. If eggs are constantly being laid then hatched then it requires diligence to catch all the hatching cycles and finally get the population down. I got on top of my scabies but I never treated my scalp and within 2 weeks I had woken up one morning with bites on my face and chest. After treating scalp and body Im not feeling any crawling feelings and there are no new bites, Fingers crossed."

03/29/2011: Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia, Australia replies: "I have had to add something else as I was so disgusted by what I found last night. I rubbed a little 12% hair peroxide into a couple of spots on my face that didnt show any bumps but I had felt crawling sensations over the past week. The areas turned into huge raised white welts one as big as 1cm. The peroxide was reacting with something under my skin. I tested some on a normal pimple and it didnt respond or go white. This was larvae and all their excretment under my skin. The areas that were infested were around my nostrils, under my eyebrows but above my lids and the upper lip (moustache) area. The skin appeared normal on the surface. I have now with a brush rubbed peroxide into my whole body and it seems my scalp, chest and face were the most heavily infested with a few small welts on my back. The scabies first presented on my hands and forearms and after treatment they returned the second time on my scalp and chest spreading to my face. I think I have killed all the larvae on my body now. Be aware that normal looking skin can have eggs underneath."

01/17/2010: Craig from Windsor, Ontario replies: "I went through this as well. My doctor said I had dry skin and a cream would work. This didn't work. I had the red bumps and it bothered me at night the crawlers as well and in the heat I was itchy. After finding this site I found out that it was scabies. Now I don't know where I got it from and I'm a very clean person but there is a lot of cures out there but the one I like is the borax when I shower and a warm the bottle of h-peroxide in the shower, after I shower I dump the bottle over me yes it does sting for a bit but it kills them, always put clean clothes on after words put dirty clothes in garbage bag first before showering! My cure is as follows...Clean everything, you house including window curtains,sills and ledges, clothes and any one there will have to be treated as well. These things are hard to get rid of. You should put dirty clothes in garbage bags IE orange for dirty black for clean that way bags don't get mixed up, use disposable latex gloves when doing laundry as well never us the same gloves twice (re-infection is why) so throw them away each time, bleach all floors including wood floors as well, they will get in the cracks, steam clean furniture throw rugs and carpets, for the bed get a plastic liner to encase the bed, same as the pillows. Wash plastic bed liner and pillows, head boards, foot boards bed rails basically sterilize the beds each day, rubbing alcohol does not work so don't bother it only chases them away do this before new linen goes on each day, keep bed away from the walls nothing should touch the walls if you have pets keep the bedroom doors closed at all times they will have it to so they will have to be treated as well and possibly caged and Isolated sadly enough:( the vet will have something for them or a cure on this site. For both dogs and cats it called "mange" as well all their bedding or scratching posts collars even the leash and dog house, everything must be done. You can get over the counter stuff,the pharmacist will know what product you can use. (NOTE: BE CAREFUL OF THIS STUFF IT CAN BE DANGEROUS AND POSSIBLY ALSO SIDE EFFECTS, IT HAS A PESTICIDE IN IT, THE SAME AS RAID USES.) If you use this stuff use only once. Make sure you get under the toe nails and finger nails also your private areas basically cover your self from head to toe and don't forget the bottom of the feet inside the ears as well, right up to your hair line, ANOTHER TRICK IS TO KEEP ONLY A SMALL QUANTITY OF CLOTHES FOR EACH PERSON TO WEAR ABOUT 3 DAYS WORTH ONLY, THE SAME AS BED LINEN AND ALL BLANKETS MAKE SURE TO DO ALL JACKETS,COATS SHOES AND BOOTS AS WELL. If you have a basement cement floor and you put dirty clothes on the floor well you guessed it this has to be bleached as well. The scabies can't live off the body for more than a week or two but I wanted to be safe so I waited a month with double bag dirty clothes, wash all clothes in the hot wash cycle( a little borax in the wash doesn't hurt either) and dry on high for 25 min or more. The expensive way is to dry clean them but let the cleaner know about the infection first. You must be very "I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH ABOUT THIS" you must be very diligent about this or they will come back trust me Third time's the charm. Really it took me three attempts and experimentation to get rid of these things but 5 months later we're all free and clear of these little buggers and my family and I have never felt better. If you follow this diligently and to the letter I promise you this will work but don't skip a step. Good Luck. Craig"

07/26/2010: Aladdin from Brooklyn, Ny replies: "A reassessment of boric acid/borax by the United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pesticide Programs found potential developmental toxicity (especially effects on the testes). BE CAREFUL!"

[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS]  07/31/2010: Red from Austin, Tx replies: "I've had scabies for over 2 months. I've had 3 full body treatments with permetherin cream 5% from the Dr. It didn't work for me. I also tried one of the online treatments with enzymes and oil. It got better, but didn't go away. I started that after the 1st permetherine treatment failed. The combination didn't work either. I tried the borax/epsom salt/hydrogen peroxide bath suggested above - now that seemed to work, but I think the person who mentioned it could be toxic was right. I got the runs the next morning. I kept using it and it got much worse. I started vomiting too. I think it would work, but that was way too strong for me. I missed almost a week of work recovering. I found another one online that is the enzymes only and less expensive. This one also seems to be working, but I'm not getting sick from it. There was a big difference the first time. Hopefully, I'll be able to tell you in a week or so that it's totally gone. Another tip that someone else mentioned - avoid sweets. I'm borderline diabetic and when I ate a dessert or something, I noticed they were a LOT more active, and the # of bites went up. I felt like I was being eaten alive. I stopped eating any sugar, and it went down. So, that's my experience. Good luck."

10/06/2010: Yvonne from Colbert, Wa replies: "The runs could have been from the epsom salts, as they are magnesium, which can cause diarrhea if overdosed."

01/04/2011: Thelman from Orlando, Florida replies: "Im a single guy that is working hard and dont have that much time at home. So when I get back and get bitten all night Im going crazy RIGHT NOW on my laptop reading your cures. Well, after using those dumb bug bombs from home depot Im going with the borax. As soon as I get up in the morning Im going to do what you suggest. For 2 months now I have bumps everywhere and am GOING crazy so hopefully tomorrow night I can stop being the bug buffet. I hate these M##!! &% bugs. Thanks again"

01/09/2011: Sava from Charlotte, Nc replies: "How long does this cure take to rid one of bird mites? I've started in the last 5 days. I also need to know how to rid them from my car and apartment. I have bamboo floors and can't use borax on them -- landlord wouldn't be a happy! I've been spraying windex in the car, but I still have them.

Any help would be appreciated. The two people I've tried to tell this about don't really believe me. They think I'm just stressed out. Who would make this up?"

01/14/2011: Icarus from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "I just recently figured out that I have scabies, so my boyfriend and I have been doing a slue of things both to ourselves and the apt to do a full cleanse and it has been going great. We've seen a significant reduction of bites, itching, and all that jazz.
Cleaning house/apt. we've been using a mix of bleach and water on the mattress, borax powder on upholstery that we vacuum off after letting it set for an hour or 2, anything small enough and un-important enough has been bagged and will remain sealed for at least 5 days, and as far as cleaning the floor we've been using rubbing alcohol and water. Rubbing alcohol kills the mites when they're host-less. As far as your other inquiry about how long it takes, well, we've been doing all this stuff for a few days and have seen significant improvements (sulfur scrub in the morning [Brimstone salt scrub from lush] followed by calamine and lotion, tbls applecider vinegar at breakfast and before bed, borax bath at night along with an anti-histamine. Itching less, fewer bites, and it's only been a few days."

02/16/2011: Jo from Culver City, Ca replies: "Wanted to mention a piece most seem to overlook; I am using borax and peroxide; what a grateful being I am for it! But please realize there are welts and bites, and secondary allergic reactions; so often they persist and can keep the idea you are still infected, when you actually are free of the mites.

been using tea tree and neem oils topically if I am bothered between baths, I dry my bedding each morning, and clothes I wore the day before, and keep everything separated.... Best of luck! "