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Posted by Seeking Solution (Usa) on 11/11/2015

Dear Ted,

Thank you for all your help with what's posted. I've read extensively.

I believe I had scabies, it was misdiagnosed as many things and finally treated w oral ivermectin after about 6 months. It seemed to be clear. That was in the spring of 2014. I spent a lot of time in the ocean that summer. When it got colder and I spent less time it came back. Clustered bite marks and other itches. I should mention that prior to the ivermectin (stromectol) I went through three episodes of nodules. When it came back I did several treatments of permethrin and had die offs. At the same time a new sensation had started very tingly around the bottom of my nose and nipples and tops of toes. Heavy treatments of sulfur seems to stop it for a bit. Then in the winter I did home crusted scabies w Iver paste and once a week perm. Almost gone again but then came back. In the summer in the ocean it goes away until I stop swimming. Also sulfur soap keeps it down. I now think it's Demodex and not scabies. Maybe I had scabies maybe not.

I've been taking the borax 1/4 teaspoon w distilled water one liter for 5 days. I immediately began having a sensation that I haven't heard people mention, which is increased pricking sensation on torso. Not so much itching. Back of neck is itchy. I can see some cylindrical dandruff in my beard but not eyelashes. Is this sensation from the borax normal? The ocean where I am is very salty and when I leave it to dry on my skin I get 12-24 hours of almost nothing. I intend to begin baking soda and have no bath tub so maybe spray with borax peroxide or Epsom salt?

Many thanks, Ted!

Replied by Carol
I've found help with a cocktail of; equal amounts of dollar store mint mouthwash with90% alcohol and witch hazel. Apply 3 layers letting each layer dry in between. Hope it works for you. Good luck.

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Posted by Mattb (Larose, LA) on 10/12/2013

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  I have been battling scabies for weeks now. I have applied 5% permethrin twice and lately starting to use borax and baking soda to make body scrub. Most of the time during the day I don't itch much but in the morning after I wake up and walk into my kitchen to cook breakfast, and my kitchen is kind of warm so I sweat easely my back and stomach feels like I get pricked by 100 needles and it goes away after about a minute. I wonder if it's the hair folicals that is infected from the scabies or the scabies moving around all at ones. When it comes to scrubbing yourself with borax and baking soda I don't recommend using a nylon scrubber because it will will tare up your skin and it will make the concoction sting. I really do want to get rid of these mites so I was thinking about trying the 1/8 tsp borax in a liter of water to see if it will help with the eggs. But I'm afraid that I will get sick after reading what other people have posted. I don't have problem sleeping anymore, hardly itching at all during the night. Could it be that I don't have scabies anymore but I have post-scabies itch and also itching from the borax? I am considering going to a dermatologist to let him or her check it out.

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Posted by Earthdweller (Mo) on 12/23/2013

[YEA]  Hi, I actually discovered EC back in '08 and have come here several times of the intervening years. I wish there were a better way to vote on posts aside from yea & nay, but the site has great value nontheless.

The reason for my post is to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU THANK YOU TED! For this remedy. I was actually looking for a remedy for scabies when I came across this.

I've been suffering from this since October but now I have real hope. MDs won't help, search engines obscure results in favor for establishment treatments that don't work and cost boo-kew bucks, and that is simply ridiculous and downright psychopathic in this information age. Just shows how screwed up values are in this country.

Last night at my wits end I decided to try yet another internet search for something, anything to make some progress on this problem. When I found this I immediately checked to see if I had any h202 around. I had 3oz of 3%, so diluted made 10.5oz to which I added 1.5 tbls of Borax.

After showering the 3% permethrin off of me I'd been wearing for 4 days (yes I know that's bad), and applying the borax/h202 solution to my poor tortured body, I felt tingling, stinging where I tried it on my lower leg. After giving myself a rather nasty burn from using a self made concoction of sulfur powder+vaseline+cayenne extract, I only did the worst spot to see what happened. After a few minutes the stinging went away entirely so I proceeded to another spot. Same response, so I repeated this over my entire body. The stinging is a bit uncomfortable but it doesn't last long and it tells you the solution is working.

I felt great and was able to fall asleep quickly, although I was pretty confident I would reinfest myself getting from the bathroom to the bed. Sure enough, I awoke about 2 hrs later with a couple of itchy areas. I was hoping it might just be the result of ultra dry skin, but it wasn't. So after 30 minutes passed without being able to fall asleep again I arose and went straight to the bathroom to see how bad the re-infestation was. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

So I showered off the old borax and had just enough to reply. The stinging was there again but not as severe or long lasting. But I knew this would be a sure cure if I could clean up my environment. Although I tried to be careful after the 2nd treatment I was highly confident I would be re-infested before I could leave the house to replenish supplies and mount a serious effort to evict the little buggers with borax.

When I returned home that afternoon I could feel some of the itching return, though FAR FAR less than before. Although I was dog tired and need to get some sleep I knew what would happen if I tried before carefully and thoroughly cleaning everything.

I have sprayed a solution of borax & water on the waterbed (no bedding on it), the carpets and in the bathroom. I'm waiting for it to dry before hoping in the shower to apply the 3rd round of borax / h2o2 solution.

This time I used a large garbage bag and unloaded the dryer directly into it. I sure hope I've cleaned those dang things out of here and tonight will be first night of restful sleep. Trying to decide whether to shower first or get the bedding ready to sleep on.

Anyway, I'm now confident I have the knowledge & tools to overcome this ordeal and get on with my life one again.


Replied by Earthdweller
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]   I was so excited to see the results of the borax / h202 solution I just couldn't wait to post last night. However great this solution is to scabies it isn't an "instant fix".

I have scabies over a large portion of my body. The worst is my right leg which became infected and swollen. That's what led me to seek an MD in the first place.

I just finished a round of Cipro (antibiotic) and was also given a shot of Medrol at that time. That seemed to take care of the majority of the swelling & infection.

But the leg is still very red with some swelling. When I treat it with borax / h202 it oozes clear pus here and there, but it's very minor compared to when I first went to the Dr. I see a few of the scabie "trails" after putting the solution on, and if they itch I scrub them real well and I can finally get them to sting and die, as they then fade and go away.

My point is that I believe the remedy is the best I've seen, and it does work, but persistence is very, very important as is cleaning your environment. That is why repeating the process every day is required until you can get yourself & the environment rid of the beasts.

Another important point is that if you have thickened skin (as I have on my leg) you may need to use a stronger penetrating agent (such as DMSO) to get the borax under the skin to where the mites and their eggs are.

I still haven't had a full nights rest yet. An hour or two after going to sleep I awaken shivering. I live in a small (less than 1000 sq ft) house which is heated by a wood stove. The bedroom stays about 10 degrees cooler than the living room, but it's close to 69 degrees in the bedroom. I have no idea what is causing that. Perhaps it's a side effect from leaving the permethrin on too long, or perhaps it's my ultra dry skin caused by the borax treatments.

Right now for example I'm sitting right in front of the stove, it's 80 degrees and I'm beginning to shiver. I've been out of bed for 6 hours now and I'm starting to notice some itchyness on my back and a little on my arms. So I'm about to go the bathroom, switch on the electric heater and do some spot applications of the borax / h202 solution where I itch and put on fresh clothing.

Thats my update. I will keep posting in hopes that this information my help others, even if it's just to provide a measure of comfort by knowing you're not alone in your struggle.

Bye for now.

Replied by Dave Donate

Fountain Inn, Sc
Hey Earthdweller,

Google "Turpentine scabies" and you'll find a lot of information on the use of turpentine "baths" to kill the little critters. Caution; only one cap full in a whole bath. More as you can learn to tolerate higher doses. Also google "healing with Turpentine tony pantalleresco youtube" and he has an extensive description of the very old medicinal uses of turpentine...uses that go back a hundred years.

Also there is a powerful substance you can use on the skin called Cedarcide made in Texas that kills about anything but won't hurt a person or animal. Apply to skin and I bet it would work on mites too. It will on larger mites, so why not the microscopic ones?

Replied by Timh Donate

Ky, Usa
I think it was our own Robert Henry that reported good results w/ hot sauna trnt along w/ other stuff. Read his reports as I think he finally killed the critters.

The roundworm trnt drug Ivermectin, if I am not mistaken, is also indicated for parasites such as mites, scabies, etc. It is available in mostly liquid or paste and may work topically but it may do to try some also orally.

Replied by Tg
You can get ivermectin at farm supply stores or a co-op--like Tractor Supply Co or somthing similar. I use the cattle pour-on ivermectin in extremely low doses on my poultry--like 3 drops for an 8 pound bird. This is dosed on the skin, measured w/ a syringe (also bought at Tractor Supply Co) but no needle. It goes in through the skin and kills worms and somehow also kills fleas/mites on the outside. Research miticides with no emphasis on being for a human. Most of what our pets get we also can take, the dose is all that is different. Check out your local feed/farm store and ask what they have for mites/mange/etc. Our local clerk tells me that most of the horse hormones are purchased by body builders, but they can't sell it to them if they know that's what it's for.
Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
Earthdweller: There are a lot of people like you approaching old age who are taking meds, herbs, and supplements and continue to suffer. I was one a short while ago. The info I am going to give you is not only going to solve all the problems but is going to give you the best body and brain of your entire life. Get some water kefir grains online. There are two kinds. One is fully awake. The other is dormant and takes 3-4 days to awaken. Put 30g organic flour, 30g organic whole dried cane sugar, and the kefir, in 1 quart drinking water. Do not use any metal. Let brew at room temp away from direct sunlight and drink 1 cup every hour before too tart. Watch how to make water kefir in 2 minutes or less video. You can make the next batch with some from the previous batch. Take 10g or more of absorbable colostrum. Make green smoothies in a blender from organic baby leaves. Eat the sugar you give the kefir, raw honey, and activated barley for carbs, hawaiin spirulina, chlorella, dessicated liver, nondenatured whey isolate, and raw cocoa powder for protein, 15g coconut oil, 25g black chia seeds, and 1tsp sesame oil for fats. Eat 80% carbs, 10% protein, 5% fiber, and 5% fats by weight. Watch raw food videos.
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U EARTH DWELLER, , , , , , , know you are excited about your find, but can promise you that you are still in trouble. Some of the eggs have not hatched and they are staggered and will hatch for sometime. Your bed clothing still has mites in them unless you have continuously addressed that with isolation and hot washing and drying.

My evolution with mites went like yours and others that have posted. I did not post my whole story six months ago. I will because I think folks can cut to the chase by reading it. The mites first showed up on my right knee and then covered my body. Like you I went to the drug store and bought 1 % OTC Permethrim which is for head lice and useless. I then went to my MD and he prescribed 5 % Permithrim which is also useless. I then went to the Farm Co-op and bought 10% Permithrim that is used on horses. That did some good. At the same time I was doing the peroxide, borax baths and bathed with a sulfur soap. All this time I thought I had Demodex mites and it may have been. Dog mange is Demodex mites and I have cured many dogs and I can tell you that my cure is far better than Ted's. Anyway, that is the rational for using sulfur soap. I also bought the hottest Mexican pepper sauce available and coated my body while standing in my bath.

At the same time I was isolating my bed linens and washing with our hot water heater wide open. We covered my mattress with Diatomaceous Earth and totally enclosed the mattress in plastic cover. Things were getting better but not rid of the critters yet. I then went to a very good Dermatologist and carried him samples of both the male and females mites. We collected them with a lint roller. He prescribed an ointment , Triamcinolone Acetonide , 0.025% with instructions to cover my body morning and night.

All this time I had been useing my FIR Sauna daily. Read where heat of 120 F would kill them , so I upped my sauna temperature to 160 to 180 F. Went back to the Dermotologist in two weeks and he declared that the ointment had worked and just coat my body once a day. I never went back and stayed with my hot sauna's for two more weeks. He did not send the mite samples off for identification and said it was just a rash.

In hind sight, I think all these posts help, but I am convinced that it is the heat that truly rids you of these critters. For me, it seems ridiculous to think changing your diet will cure you of a skin parasite. Hope my long winded diatribe has given you good earth clinic folks a short cut to solving your mite problem. Ain't life interesting?

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY===========

Replied by Theresa Donate

Mpls., Mn
Hey EarthDweller!

Some friends of mine swear by Freedom 45 - pyrethrin based.

Google "freedom 45 scabies" for a Topix discussion that may give you ideas as well.

Because parasite are attracted to the energy from a weakened immune system, do consider Mike's advise for nutritional supplements to take to help you heal from the inside out.

If you are constantly being reinfected, you may have to step up your cleaning routine and spread borax powder about and leave it down to prevent the mites from establishing any new colonies or hiding spots in your home.

Replied by Mt
Ottawa, Ontario
1) Try to apply your urine on the infected area or 2) Try to apply dry wood ashes on the infected area.
Replied by Earthdweller
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful replies. Before I respond to the feedback you offered, let me provide a brief update.

When I returned home on Christmas day I was itching pretty badly. I reviewed the various things I've tried and paused when I came to sulfur+olive oil. I remember reading how sulfur has been used as a scabies cure for over a 1000 years. So why didn't work I asked myself. Sulfur+DMSO didn't work very well and neither did any thing else with sulfur.

Since I do get some relief (tho not a cure) from coconut oil, I decided to mix 1 cup of coconut oil with 1 Tblsp sulfur powder. I spread the light yellow liquid onto two of the worst places and no stinging. Did that 2 more times, never any stinging so I did entire body.

I felt much relief when I came out of the bathroom. Was able to get 3.5 hrs of sleep before awakening to itching. But visual inspection showed many areas looked much better. I know it's gonna require relentless repetition as sulfur only kills the adult mites. When the next batch of eggs hatch there better be plenty of sulfur on the skin surface to greet them.

I feel better and arms are really improving. Have used the coconut oil + sulfur twice now, about to go in for another shower. I also re-coated some itchy spots couple of hrs ago. The coconut oil seems to do a much better job of getting the sulfur into the skin. I'm going to keep after the 'lil buggers and eventually there will be no more to hatch.

Now onto your feedback.

Tom from TX: My friend suggested kerosine, and I tried it on a spot. Didn't seem to help. Tea Tree oil has a turpentine element in it as well, but didn't really work for me either. I have heard about the Cedarcide, but need to google it to get details. I don't have enough bandwidth for YouTube here at the house, but will definitely see what it has to offer when I go into town next. Thanks much for suggestions.

Tg from AL: Thanks for the tip on getting Ivermectn at farm supply stores. I'll check into that on next visit to one.

Mike 62: I've heard of kefir but don't know much about it. Is it a fermented process? Again, an excellent suggestion I will look into further. Thank you for your input!

Robert Henry: You're absolutely right, it will take persistence to kill all the newly hatched bugs since the sulfur only kills adults and as you point out there will be successive waves of new bugs to kill. Right now there are so many its just a matter of hours between waves, based on how often the severe itching occurs. I'll be more hopeful if I continue to see improvement and the time between waves gets longer and longer. It might even be worth considering full shower + treatment when I feel the need to itch. But doing so also implies much more laundering and I am already doing that almost non-stop now. I was prescribed the exact same steroid you mentioned, but it is all gone now. It definitely helps to stop the itching, but read elsewhere it has some bad side affects, so for now I will avoid it. Hot water is 155 degrees into washer. Cools to 122 just as agitator starts cycle. So I add 1 or two large pots of boiling water to raise it back up to 140 degrees or more.

Theresa: I agree. I intend to check into the info Mike wrote about. Don't know about the colostrum tho. I know what that is, it most certainly would be good to take, but not sure where to get it. I'll ask about it at farm supply on next visit. I gotta say tho that it does kindof put me off, like eating bugs & cows brains do.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply with your wonderful and positive input.

EarthDweller still hanging in there...

Replied by Earthdweller
Mike 62: Question for you. Colostrum is the first milk from mammals and really boosts immune systems. So what is absorbable colostrum? I did a google search for it and all the results were for colostrum rather than absorbable colostrum. I mentioned being put off from drinking it b/c it looks yukky to me, like eating bugs etc. But I should at least try it.
Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
Earthdweller: Absorbable colostrum happens to be the best selling colostrum in the country, has the most favorable reviews at amazon, and as a bonus is the most cost effective. The colostrum molecule is too large to be absorbed after the intestinal wall becomes fully formed. The colostrum has an oil attached to get into the blood. A 21oz jar costs $52 shipped. I take 5g daily.
Replied by Earthdweller
I sure hope so, Robert Henry. The coconut oil is very soothing and good for the skin, however it is absorbed relatively quickly. I noticed only a couple of hours after applying it that the skin didn't seem oily anymore.

When I tried the olive oil & sulfur I didn't repeat it or keep it up. Perhaps a mixture of sulfur + olive oil + coconut oil + a few drops of tea tree oil would be a good combo. The olive oil sticks around longer and the tea tree oil might interfere with offspring reproduction.

Hey all these trials are just slightly educated guesses. The good thing is they are natural. That's not to say they can't hurt you (like the burn I gave myself from cayenne in it; still have a few red patches from that! ).

Your technique of looking for dead mites the next morning is interesting. Sounds like you have a scientific perspective, trying to find evidence like that. Bravo! It's a tough problem to solve without good feedback, and that is limited.

If you assume there are several or many (another unknown to factor in) different groups of bugs & their offspring, your collection method might not be representative of all of them. But it's the best idea I've heard of.

I might give it a try to see if I can even spot one of the little buggers. I spent 5 minutes trying to see if I could spot one with a magnifying glass on my leg with no luck. One problem I foresee with the clear tape approach is that there will likely be lots of dead skin cells on the tape and they may actually interfere with spotting bugs. Worth a try tho.

Replied by Earthdweller
Mike 62: My friend was in town today when I called her and she picked up the only kefir the health food store had. It was for a milk / yogurt style kefir, although it was just kefir grains. She asked about the colostrum and they couldn't answer the question about obsorbable type, but what they had was in capsules which alleviates my ebie gebies over drinking that yellow slime. It was rather pricy though at nearly $20 a bottle. When I go in to town I will look for kefir at a different health food store. There are 3 in that town of 11,000 people.
Replied by Trudy
If you want real milk kefir, go online and so a search for the kefirlady. She will send you the grains with instructions, you mail her cash (I think it was $10) and get it in a week or so. I did this years ago and still have mine growing, although it makes so much that I freeze the extra grains. I like to let mine get really thick, then use it like a ricotta cheese on top of my oatmeal--the tang is very tasty. But, I really can't stomack drinking the stuff straight, have to make a smoothie in order to drink it daily. Very good, but I put on weight becasue I was trying to drink all it made. This is soo much cheaper than buying ready made from any store, and they add sweetener and flavoring that you may not want.
Replied by Tg
Seems to me that heat is the way to go, it's a matter of how to do it if you don't have access to a sauna. Could you use a hair dryer?
Replied by Earthdweller
Hey everyone, just wanted to provide an update on my progress with scabies.

The treatment I've been using since 12/27/2013 is 1 cup coconut oil + 1 Tblsp sulfur powder. I spread it all over my body and really scrub it in where the scabies are the most active (greatest concentration of red bumps or where skin has grown thick or crusted over). 1 cup is good for about 4 days used twice a day.

I'm happy to report that I'll probably be scabies free in about a week. I'm now sleeping 5-7 hrs a night and I've got no major itching, and all swelling has gone away. Large areas on back, shoulders, buttocks & thighs are clear, only red smooth skin where massive bumps once were.

However on my right leg, the first place to show symptoms, is proving to be difficult to oust the scabies. It has thickened skin, in some places it has been very crusty and I really scrub it down, and remove the dead skin each shower. This uncovers more scabies lines / burrows which the sulfur & oil will destroy with enough scrubbing.

I'm also talking 3 Symbiotics Colostrum Plus capsules twice a day. Couldn't find water kefur grains locally and no $ to order online right now. Found a 20 oz water kefur drink for $8 or $9 but the flavor didn't sound appealing and it was at most 2 servings.

The one drawback to this treatment regimen is that I shiver alot, even if the room temp is 85 degrees and I'm bundled up many layers of clothes. I just can't stay warm. This is usually what awakens me before morning comes. I am shivering but find I'm actually sweating on the side I lay on. By the time this happens the coconut oil is absorbed into the skin and it feels quite dry on the opposite side to where I sleep, or on my arms.

I still spray water+borax and vacuum once a day, and keep up the routine of washing all bedding and clothing, usually 4 -5 loads of laundry a day. I'll be glad when I can back off that, but I won't until I see no new bumps for at least 4 days. I'm close, but still finding 3 - 6 bumps appearing on my arms and various other places. I wear latex gloves most of the time and am very watchful of wear new bumps appear; if on the arms, hands or feet I try to determine if they were introduced from on my body or the environment. Most of the time now they come from some place on my person.

So that's about it. This treatment works, though it takes many iterations to achieve clear skin. In my case it was about the only treatment that I could see was effective. I did try DMSO+Borax+H202, and that also works, but is really harsh on the skin. Also used MMS+DMSO with same results. I use that as a spot treatment of small patches. It seems to burn the skin and leave it red and sensitive.

Anyway, thanks to EarthClinic and all who post here and give their reports of their tribulations and remedies. This is an excellent example of how the Internet brings us together to help one another, to foster a sense of real community.

Good luck everyone!

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
HI U EARTH DWELLER, , , , , , , , , ,

Great that the sulfur and oil protocol is working for you. Pet lovers have told me that this is an inhumane treatment, and I needed to move into the 21 century. Funny, I thought I had.

=======OLE ROBERT HENRY ========

Replied by Earthdweller
Theresa: the coconut + sulfur treatments don't really smell much. The coconut oil really smothers the sulfur stink. After the oil is absorbed the sulfur is left on the dry skin. It does smell some then, but not very much. I have noticed a very mild sulfur smell on the clothes when they come out of the dryer, but not strong at all.
Replied by Smittymom
Des Moines, LA
[YEA]   I just wanted to comment on the Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide post. You have saved my sanity!!! I have 4 kids under 9 and we think my husband brought home scabies from work. It has been a horrible experience! Especially for our 15 month old who was struggling terribly-up hours at night screaming etc. I was desperate. After several internet search attempts I found this site. I did not want to use Ivermectin and Permethrin creams-so I tried several home remedies--lots of coconut oil (which my 15mo old reacted to so we had to switch her to grapeseed oil-worked great) We used those carrier oils for the young living's Thieves oil-which worked great for relief-but didn't cure. We also used Naturasil stuff-lavender/sulfer soap, tea tree oil soak, the sulfer lotion, and the spray to kill stuff--along with washing everything-everyday. All of those things helped-and maybe even cured my husband--but my baby girl had nests all over-and head to toe rash--she was in misery. Not until we started the hydrogen peroxide/borax soak did she truly see results--and I saw them the first day!!!!! It was amazing!!! I only used about 1/3 c borax and 1/4 c. hydrogen peroxide for her--borax is hard on skin so be careful! Will really dry out. for myself I followed the 1c borax and 1/2 c Hydrogen peroxide. We so far have done 2 nights of borax baths and this is the first day I can say she has no new spots and the old ones are fading fast. It's been 10 days of hell for us (my husband started itching 2 months ago) but the last week and a half were awful.

I also made up a spray bottle of about 20oz warm water and added 2 Tbs borax and 2Tbs hydrogen peroxide. I spray this all over my house and when I have an itch I put it on my skin and let it dry there. After that I still use the coconut oil (2Tbs melted) with 4-5drops of Thieves oil-its got clove in it--and I put that on the itchy spots as well. We also put the tea tree oil in the baths at night as well-we then air dry to let the oil and borax stay on our skin. After that I cover in the coconut oil I have found some very dry/leathery like spots on my skin after borax-but its so much better than a scabies itch-so I will lotion or oil up. We also put borax in all our laundry loads washing everything on super hot (we turned our hot water heater all the way up) and drying everything completely (and putting all pillows in the dryer daily for 20-30min)

We will continue the nightly bath ritual (which takes about 4 hours for 6 people it seems). For a few more days at least-until the baby is completely healed-and then we will probably do every 2-3 days for awhile just in case-I'm not risking re-infection--this has been a nightmare.

This was an AMAZING find!! Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide made all the difference for the cure!!!! Thank You Thank You thank you!!! Getting our lives back. :)

Replied by Katie Spielman
This is in response to Earthdweller Mo. I have coconut oil but where did you find sulfur powder? Did you put this mix on your skin before or after showering? Did you leave it on while you slept? Or wash it off after a duration of time. I'm in desperate need of advice! Thanks.
Replied by Marquise
Chicago, Il
I wanted to know can scabies be on hard wood or tiled floor. I'm constantly washing and drying. I feel like I'm going crazy trying to get rid of the bugs.
Replied by Nancy
Lyons, Ks
Thank you so much for your post I'm going to try the borax and peroxide since I have also heard this elsewhere. I have been miserable now for six months with no doctors ichnology that I even have them I'm going insane I am literally ready to just do myself and just ended so I don't have to be miserable anymore. I hope this works.

Posted by Kevin (New York) on 10/15/2013

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  I have been batteling scabies for the past few months and finally borax and h202 are working. I have read a ton about alkalizing on this website and have started drinking sodium bicarb mixtures with Apple Cider Vinegar and lemon/lime juice. I have also read Ted's pH balance book... My question refers to the diet portion. If I can't eat fruit or dairy, and have to drastically cut down on my meat and other carbs, WHAT THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO EAT? If anyone with knowledge on this can give me more specific information about what to eat instead of what to stay away from it would be greatly appreciated. I'm a 25 year old male, thought I was healthy before this scabies event, it has showed me that I have to change a lot about my life, I don't want to loose weight.

Replied by Ed2010
I am not sure for what purpose you have to reduce meat and carbs. If Bill and Ted has said it, there is should be a valid reason for it. In any case, if you need nutrition. Take Spirulina 2 - 4 capsules a day. Start with 2. It will supply all the nutrition you need except vitamin C, Vitamin E. Good Health
Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
Kevin: I had the same problem. Studying all the condemnations confused me. I had $2,000 in the bank and I was starving because I was afraid to eat anything. Then I discovered the solution, zeta potential. High zeta potential creates an atmosphere where cells thrive and all pathogens perish. Any food that increases zeta potential is good. Raw food and live ferments have enzymes. Organic and grass fed foods have bioactive minerals. Live enzymes and bioactive minerals increase zeta potential. For example you can eat a raw organic strawberry but not drink pasteurized orange juice. You can eat grass fed hamburger raw or rare but not cooked regular hamburger. Concentrates like raw honey and dessicated liver are more convenient and less expensive. Google raw food and superfood videos. I take 85% raw organic concentrates and 15% raw grass fed and wild harvested animal concentrates. If this is something that you would like to try reply back and I'll give you all the properly prepared products from reputable companies highly recommended by naturopath doctors that I take, the dosages, and instructions.
Replied by Greenglo
Hi Mike, where do you buy the raw fish sauce from? I live in Denver too but have'nt been able to locate this. Would also love to have your product recommendations. Thanks!
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
HI U GOD FEARING FOLKS DOING, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Last year when I was addressing Lymphoma, I had an out break of mites of some kind. I think it was associated with the cancer as Hulda Clarks says. Anyways, I went to my doctor and he gave me an insecticide. That did not work, so I went to a Dermatoligist and he gave me a gel that was supposed to smother them. The sorry rascal did not send the specimans off for indentification.

I read where mites die at 120 degrees so we washed all my clothes and bed sheets with the hot water heater on maximam. I took a FIR Sauna at 160 degrees every day. That solved my problem. Any other treatment besides heat , then you are pissen in the wind.

Know lots of you don't have the money for a FIR Sauna, but you dang sure know how to build a fire. The native Indians used heat to solve a lot of their health problems. You figure out how to get your skin above 120 degrees and you are home free.

For parasites that are in the skin, heat is the only solution. Otherwise you have a long drawn out process. Heed what I say. I've been there.

Love you like a FIRST COUSIN. == OLE RH ====

Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
Greenglo: God's Goodies can make the body buzz like a bee and brain think like a super computor. I would love to assist you in accomplishing this incredible goal. A case of 12 7oz. Bottles thai fish sauce can be purchased for $55 shipped. The best has been fermented for 2 years. For the oil soluable nutrients an 8oz. bottle of raw fermented skate liver oil can be purchased for $50 shipped. The protein powders I take are raw organic cocoa powder, raw whey isolate, absorbable colostrum, hawaiin spirulina, chlorella, and non defatted dessicated liver. The carbs I take are honey, organic whole dried cane juice, and organic buckwheat flour, all raw. The oils I take are expellar pressed coconut, raw organic sesame, and black chia seeds. The herbs I take are cold processed maca, yucca powder, organic tomato paste, cayenne, hawaiin cordyceps, freeze dried organic young green coconut water, and 4:1 goji concentrate. The supplements I take are water soluable humic acid, wyoming clay, nascent iodine stabalized with alcohol, cold pressed lemon and wild harvested oregano essential oils, and vanilla bean. I drink a pint of water per hour and do earthing. I walk for a half hour, then rest for a half hour, 8 times. I drink 4 cups of home made water kefir. Thank you God's Goodies.
Replied by Greenglo
Thanks Mike. Any chance you can give me the fish sauce and the humic acid brand? There are too many brands out there ...
Replied by Mike 62
Denver, Colorado
Greenglo: Tra Chang at Import Foods and TeraVita at Amazon.

Posted by Kimberly (Columbus) on 05/16/2013

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  Thank God for this site!!! My 16 yr old was itching really bad then I ended up with itching we were both broke out with red bumps all over us and intense itching It was so depressing:( I found this site through yahoo and I read dozens of peoples posts on here. That lead me to go out and buy a box of Borax and bottles of peroxide I ran a tub of the hottest water I could stand and put 1 cup of borax in with 2 cups of peroxide as soon as I got in the tub and layed down I was rubbing my legs etc and it felt like I could literally feel gritty stuff or bugs come off I have not been diagnosed by my doctor until tomorrow but I was researching my symptoms on the internet seems like I have all the symptoms as scabies:(:( I'm going 2 continue treating us 2x a day with the borax and peroxide baths and wash laundry and bedding daily thanks 2 every 1 that posted on here which helped me treat my son and I until our doctor appt.

Replied by Kat13
Garfield, New Jersey
After beginning borax external treatment, how long is scabies still contagious for? Or should I be on internal as well before physical contact with someone? If so for how long should I wait?

Posted by Liz (Riverside, Calif) on 10/28/2011

[YEA]  Thanking God for this site, I had scabies, tried the cream that the Dr. gave me, two treatments one week apart, well it did not work, I was desperate and found your site. I used 2 cups of borax with 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide in a hot bath 2 times a day for 2 weeks. Soaked for 30 minutes, dipped my head for the first 5 minutes of the bath. Scabies are totally gone! My Dr says I just drowned the bugs, but I had such fast relief, the first night I slept with no itching! I don't care what the dr. says, this cured me.

P. S. I did invest in a steamer and was obsessed with cleaning for the 2weeks, and I washed bedding everyday and never wore the same thing twice without washing. Good luck to all you people fighting these little critters, try this it works! Thank you Earth Clinic.

Replied by Bitemenot
Radcliff, Ky
-DAY 1 of treatment,

-Acute infestation, possibly under a week, 3 people (one is a 3yr old), two adults showing signs of infestation.

So about two weeks ago a friend of my wife possibly brought over some friends of her own (scabies). Though her friend claims it is psoriasis all of the indicators point to scabies. All of the girls friends within the last few months have broken out with a rash. Now two weeks after the girl spends the night on our couch, my wife is diagnosed with scabies and two days later I am. It started as just a few bumps we assumed were a reaction to an antibiotic, then it spread, waving and waning. Thighs, then hips, then back, then legs, now face. Then we found out about the girls other friends breaking out. I immediately began research upon my wifes diagnosis, spent roughly 12 hours of straight research.

Her doctor prescribed her Ivermectin, , my doctor did as well, I am not real fond of the idea of using such a powerful pesticide like chemical in my body. Besides, we have a 3 year old and we are sure not putting it in her , so we are exploring safer alternatives first.

Although I was hesitant to bathe (and my wife is extremely sceptical) with Borax, which some places inisist is toxic. I decided it couldnt be any less safe externally bathing in the stuff than digesting/metabolizing pesticide.

Tonight I soaked for about 30 minutes in a bath(super hot) of a little more than half a cup of borax and a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide (walmart didnt have the 35%). Letting each different part of my body soak for 10 minutes at a time, legs, chest/back neck, face /head/scalp. BTW I did spot test the Borax as I suggest anyone do before spreading/bathing with a unfamiliar chemical across a large surface area of your body. I just started showing epidermal indicators (bumps) today and my wife 3 days ago, so I do not believe our infestation to be to severe. We are cleaning the house thoroughly with the Borax as well. My daughter was a little itchy last night, but otherwise exhibits no signs at the moment.

The original suspected carrier continues to proclaim to be diagnosed with psoriasis or egzima, with recent visit to hospital (ER), and months ago by a dermatologist.

I'll keep yall updated on the effectiveness of treatment.

Replied by Teena
Kelowna, Bc Canada
Use Kleen Green it is an enzyme cleaner all natural product it works. Lookup company on website! It will get rid of scabies & many other infestations.
Replied by Hayden
My battle against these creatures was a full blown chemical assault. Borax was used for cleaning clothes, and also combined with hydrogen peroxide to mist around the house and on my skin after a shower. I also used orange oil extract, clove oil, coconut oil and two different types of chemical scabies treatments I alternated between, and used twice over 3 weeks. (be careful as they can be an accumulative poison if used too much) My concoction of chemicals cost around 120 us dollars, but was well worth it. (the two treatments I used were 'Derbac M' and 'Benhex Cream')

I actually got a little depressed after reading about the resilience these vermin can have. I've never done so much laundry :)

Anyone waging this war has my sympathy, but keep up with the cleaning and you'll preserver. I met my nemesis face to face at work as I dug 5 or 6 them out of my hand under a microscope. Needless to say I kept my secret quiet whilst worrying that I'd pass them on to someone else. I think there's a automatic association people make between scabies and uncleanliness/bad hygiene. I know I did, but to my relief I learned this isn't the case.

I'm contributing my story due to the appreciation I have for the advice people have given. I'm itching just thinking about the whole ordeal.

I had an allergic reaction to the mites which would bring up itchy bumps all over my stomach / legs. Try not to scratch these as they are not the mites, and will leave you with red bumps all over the show. I took antihistamines to alleviate the irritation, and in turn make life bearable.

Good luck :)

Replied by Justin
Melbourne, Florida
[YEA]   After two rounds of Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide I am feeling much better, keeping with the treatment, relief feels great after days of getting worse. Thanks!
Replied by Jaime
San Francisco Ca.
[YEA]   Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak really works for scabies.

Posted by Scabies Are Curable (Minneapolis, Minnesota) on 07/30/2011

[YEA]  Well, I thought I allergic to my yards of new material when I discovered we all were infected by scabies.... What a nightmare!!! The prescription doesn't work!!! The pharmaceutical company for the medication most likely set off the epidemic for profit. But I tried Bleach, the prescription medication etc... I did bath using Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide on all the children all 5 of them, my husband and myself. We seen little black specs in the water and if you look at a scabie photo they look like that... Anyways, we are sticking with washing everything in borax and hot water and bathing in the solution for the next couple of days and nobody has had an allergic reaction. The itching stopped immediately and it was a relief.... and for those of you lying about the borax and hydrogen peroxide treatment tell your pharmaceutical company to quit profitting off the misery of others and step up the medication dosage to eliminate the problem....

Replied by Joel
Porterville, Ca, United States
Hey I read your post annd I was hoping if you can help me out with the same problem that you had?
Replied by Dot
Houston, Tx
Hi, can you clarify if its the Borax pesticide sold in Home Depot, or Borax soap sold in the detergent isles at the stores? Also, how old were your children, I have a toddler and want to make sure it wont damage her skin. Thanks
Replied by Pixel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
This worked for me. I have had scabies twice. The first time I just went to the doctor and got permetherin creme. After the first application it helped, but came back strongly in a week. I did a second dose and that finished the job. A year later I broke out with it in Germany. I looked into getting the creme again, but learned that in Germany the government requires you to report that you have scabies and they treat you and essentially quarantine you.

So I found this forum while looking for over the counter cures. I did some bleach baths, which seemed to help, but definately did not cure me. I then did the borax and Hydrogen peroxide baths, which worked perfectly. The results were immediate and compelling, but I did daily baths for a few days. I didn't want to take chances, so I did a few more baths over the next three weeks just in case I got reinfected from clothing or something, because I had not taken the time to steralize everything. I have been scabie free for about 8 months now. I feel much better about soaking in borax than rubbing permethrine cream all over my body. I believe borax is much safer, but I am not a doctor. I wish all doctors had the knowledge an honest to give out this proven cure.

Replied by Thank God For This
Laporte, Indiana, Usa
Ok I have been suffering from scabies for about 6 or 7 months now. I have been back and forth to the doctor and they keep prescribing premethrin cream... IT DOES NOT WORK... Huge waste of money. I have applied and reapplied over and over needless to say with little results... I tried putting SSS from avon all over my body to help get rid of this I put it in my hair it seemed to help a little bit but I noticed that it gave me pimple like bumps all over me. I told the doctor it was in my hair she said that it does not get in the hair... Which is a load of crap because that was where it was the worst. I know I got it from the laundromat I was working at... The washers kept flooding and I ended up soaked with the dirty water every time I worked. The place didnt have hot water ever. So people who would come in to clean their clothes would press hot and either get luke warm or cold water. So if someone had scabies and thought they were washing in hot water they werent and I was wearing that nasty water for 8 hours.

This site has ended up as a life saver. I just got done with the first soak in the tub. I itched like crazy when I first got in. I had it really hot that is probably why. I am noticing that the itching has already stopped for the moment. I didnt rince it off I let it air dry hope that was right. I am cleaning and cleaning and doing laundry like crazy with borax. I am going to mix borax non clorine bleach and water to spray on my carpets, beds, in the car and going to wash all the floors with borax bleach and mr clean. Or should I used flea spray? I have washed out the dressers with borax mr clean and water. I am washing all the blankets and sheets and keeping the clothes away from the ones that were in the dresser until I can rewash them in borax. I have bleached my pillows and dried on high heat in the dryer and placed vinyl covers on them and the bed. Is there anything else I need to do to make sure that I dont get this crap back? It has been going on long enough...

I am going to continue the soaks for the next week. Skin seems dry so I got some Cocoa Butter Lotion to put on my skin. Or would lavender baby lotion be better? I hope this works because I am so tired of my head and coochie and under my breasts under my arms and legs itching like crazy. I need a good nights sleep for once. I am exhausted.

Another thing should I treat my cat and dog too? The cat seems to be itching which she does when she eats stuff she isnt supposed to have (my room mate feeding her crap from the table) but the dog isnt itching at all. They both sleep in my bed. Spoiled rotten lol. I was thinking of making some of the treatment into a paste and dab it on her itchy spots as well. Would it hurt her?

It has been an hour and no itching at all... This is wonderful... OMG I feel great... For the first time in months I don't itch at all...

Replied by Anna
Kindly could you advice me about the borax?! I am from uk and I can't find it in stores so while searching online I came across different types of borax starting from homemade borax to MULE team cleaning products and borax powder.
Kindly advice urgently as I am suffering with the scabies


Replied by Theresa
Seattle, Wa Usa
Anna from Ca :

20 Mule Team Borax and borax powder should be the same thing: from the 20 Mule Team site:

20 Mule Team Borax is comprised of 99.5% pure borax, a naturally occurring mineral composed of sodium, boron, oxygen, and water. (The scientific name for borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate.)

Cheers. Good luck!

Posted by Uk8284 (Nottingham, United Kingdom) on 05/08/2011

hi, can someone please tell me what grade % hydrogen peroxide I need and how much is litres or ml do put in the bath to do this borax and hydrogen peroxide soak for scabies. Please HELP. Thank you

Replied by Anonymous
Waukesha, Wi
I personally, add 2 cups of bleach and 2 large bottles to a very hot bath! Then 2 cups of borax and a large container of seasalt... Hope it helps!
Replied by Theresa
Seattle, Wa Usa
Uk8284 from Nottingham, United Kingdom :

The over-the-counter Hydrogen Peroxide here is 3%; just the usual HP bought for disinfecting wounds. Hope that helps. I'm not sure how much to use, there are lots of different recipes out there.

Replied by Jayne
London, Uk
I'd also like to know what percentage Hydrogen Peroxide you put in the bath? I have the 3%, is that strong enough? And how many cups/ml?? Thanks.

Posted by Teresa (Kissimmee, Florida, Us) on 01/24/2011

[SIDE EFFECTS]  Hi, my husband and I have been doing the peroxide / borax baths for 2 days now. When we started he had no hair on his chest, legs and face, along with red bumps all over. Since we have been doing the baths he looks horrible! I want to cry everytime I see him. He has scabs and sores all over him, he is lethargic and smells. The oozing has stopped and they look like red scabs all over a bare body. Is this normal? is this a its going to look worse before it gets better? He had this problem a few months back and I gave him a couple baths with the peroxide and borax and he healed right up. But not this time..... Please help! We are struggling to put food on the table for our kids, so right now a vet is not an option.

Replied by Cathrine
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Try household bleach in the bath water. I cup to a tub of water. Do the scalp too
Replied by Anonymous
Waukesha, Wi/usa
Using bleach in bath water (1-2cups ONLY) is not toxic to you. It's about equal to a clorinated pool! I wouldn't recommend this as a daily regimen! It's not a first choice for your skin, BUT it will work for SCABIES! The thing with scabies/bleach is to basically shock the mites! It will kill them, if done, with somewhat normal (healthy) skin! If your skin is severe (DO NOT USE BLEACH). Use TTO and menthol powder or lotion, until the skin gets back to a more healthier state! The permethrin can be watered down and used daily over bad areas! WHEN skin is in a healthly state, take a bleach bath! Do add a small bottle of hydrogen peroxide to HOT AS YOU CAN STAND water... Use alot of after bath moisturizer! The thing to remember when using bleach, is that if your skin (in damaged skin) and you keep using bleach, although it may kill some mites, the female who is deeper in your skin to begin with, will burrow deeper!!! So-skin somewhat healthy. Hot water to open the pores. Hydrogen peroxide to allow the bleach to soak into your skin! When skin is still wet, LOTS of moisturizer!!! LOTS OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU SUFFERING =)
Replied by Debbie
Melbourne, Australia
One of the most effective remedies for scabies is tea tree oil. Tea tree oil has safely been used for decades to heal many ailments, from insect bites to acne. Tea tree oil has antifungal, as well as antibacterial, properties. Tea tree oil works by absorbing and penetrating into the lower layers of the skin, killing the parasite. Tea tree oil also kills the eggs that have been laid by the parasite, preventing reinfestation.

Instructions via the link:

Replied by I Hate Scabies!
Leonardtown, Md
So I recently learned that I have scabies for the third time within three years (all during summer time). It doesn't seem to have left my community & I feel so paranoid about every itch! I found out before I even showed symtoms (my boyfriends roommates thankfully let us know in time). To add to the scabies problem we've been dealing with fleas for almost a year now too! It sounds trashy I'm sure, but believe me, it's driving me & my boyfriend insane. It's hard to get stuff taken care of when unfortunately not everyone see's eye to eye on how to handle it. CRAZY RIGHT?! It shouldn't even be a discussion, just get the pests OUT. Period. THE END! But no, that is not the case, sadly.

Any ways. We have been using cold pressed neem oil twice a day for the past week or two & it was really doing a good job at controlling it, but it's getting worse. So we decided to start taking the HP & Borax baths. The first time I took the bath I did not air dry & then used the neem oil head to toe. Everything seemed fine. Two days later I was able to make the time for a second bath. I air dried this time & used a lot of neem oil. The next day I cleaned an entire basement in sweat pants & a hoodie (which really opened up my pores, ) noticed a little redness on my skin, especially my chest & neck. After cleaning I took a hot shower (also really opening up my pores) & used more neem oil after I dried off with a towel, this time I think I used just a tad too much on my chest & neck. I was very red by the time I finished but didn't notice anything wrong until later that night when my neck & chest were scary red & I had odd bumps every where. I got so confused as to whether it was just the reaction or if all those little red bumps were scabies that just became visible all of a sudden. I showered again before bed to see if it would help the reaction & the next morning rubbed coconut oil on me to soothe the itch & to see how my skin might react. Around one in the morning I took some benadryl to reduce the redness & bumps. It only helped a little so I went to the ER at about 7 in the morning to see if there was any advice a doctor might have, of course it's usually not much help. I can NOT go through this again, it's miserable, as any one with scabies would know. Right now I'm struggling with an allergic reaction & scabies & fleas. I am planning to try the borax but on a smaller area (had to learn the hard way) to see if it is what caused the reaction. Or just the combo of everything I had on my skin. I gave my skin a break from everything, which worries me a bit considering how quickly scabies appear but I don't want to make anything worse for my skin!

So my point to this post is to always test a product before getting into a hot bath with it & be more cautious about the things you put on your skin. Especially if you're like me with sensitive skin. It sucks to have scabies. But it sucks even more to have scabies & then a bad allergic reaction. I really wish the best of luck to any one with this infestation. The first time I didn't even know what it was till three months later (thanks to an idiot doctor who told me I was fine & had no idea what was wrong -_-). I will be paranoid for probably the rest of my life. I plan to keep up the cleaning & hopefully I can continue my treatment if my skin heals, for about a month if not the rest of my summer. Maybe I'll have a nice summer next year?


Posted by Tee (Marietta, Ga) on 01/22/2011

[NAY]  This did not work for me at all. As a matter of fact, I believe this caused the mites to spread. After having rashes in one area for four months, within days after starting the soaks, I started to get bites on my back and sides And even on my face. I also did not see any improvement with my original rash.

Posted by Deb (London, Ky. Usa) on 12/06/2010

[YEA]  I have a 9 month old grand-daughter which has had blisters on the bottoms of her feet for over 3 months now. It started out a blister on the mouth, which was diagnosed as Foot-Hand-Mouth disease. After a month of the blisters moving from her mouth to her hands and feet, her pediatrician decided it wasn't FHM disease and wanted to treat her for Psoriasis. After another month of treatment for Psoriasis, no cure. The blisters were still there and new ones coming on a daily basis. She even had one huge blister in her head. Her pediatrician treated her for scabies, yes the perm cream. Not only did I treat her, but I treated everyone of the family members that are around the baby and have any contact with her. Yes I bought the meds for all family members on both sides of the families so she wouldn't suffer. It didn't work. I even had my white carpet steam cleaned along with my sofa. Still blisters were popping up on a daily basis. The dermatologist also treated her for scabies, even though the scraping test came back negative for scabies, he wanted to treat her for them. So another perm treatment and still blisters popping up overnight.

I came to the internet for research on scabies and found this site. I read for a treatment on the critters and found the Peroxide and borax treatment. Now, I'm not sure if it was scabies or not, but my 9 month old grand-daughter sure loves me for getting rid of her itchy, red, infectious blisters on the bottoms of her feet and bosy. I used about 1/2 cup borax and 1/2 cup peroxide in as warm water as she could stand, and I soaked her in it for about 5-10 minutes once daily for 2 days. Afterwards, I let her air dry in a very warm house and left it on her for about 2 hours and then gave her a bath in olive oil soap, which I had purchased because the dermatologist said she was allergic to coconut oil. Which she is not. After the bath with theolive oil soap ($1.50 a bar), I rinsed her off with fresh water and patted her dry, and then rubbed her down with extra virgin olive oil and proceeded to pat her dry again. Her blisters are now all gone and her skin is soft without any harm to her body as those poisonous creams the doctors were prescribing for her.

An old lady probably in her 90's had mentioned to me before I came here for help about using virgin olive oil on her and all of her ailments would disappear. I was skeptical, Not anymore, Thanks old lady from wal-mart check-out line. I appreciate you and this site for the cure of my granddaughter's feet!!! I was careful to not let her get any of the bathing solution in her mouth and eyes too. She has an appointment in 2 days with the doctor and the dermatologist on the same day. I will mention this solution for whatever it was ailing my baby...

Replied by Merryanne
Orange City, Florida, Usa
To Deb in KY, God bless you, and all the loving Grandmas.
Replied by Courtney
Schenectady, Ny
Thanks for all of the advice! Seriously, this is the only website that I have actually found useful advice on! I found Borax and want to use it on my skin but I do not have a tub in my apartment. Does anyone know of another effective way to use the Borax treatment without having to soak in it? Can I put it in a spray bottle and spray it on? I know you are supposed to leave it on but do you leave it on until your next shower? I'm literally going insane here! Any advice will help!! Thanks in advance!!
Replied by Lily
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Hi Courtney, yes you can put borax in a spray bottle and leave it on for as long as it feels good to you! Try maybe an hour before showering at first and leave on longer if need be next time. About maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the bottle borax, the rest water. Lily.
Replied by Cathrine
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Hi there,

With all my experimenting with scabies I have come to the conclusion that 2 remedies are required. One to kill the mites and one to kill the larvae. Hydrogen peroxide rubbed onto bumps seems to kill the larvae. I used some of my 12% cream hair peroxide on new bumps and immediately could see a white head appear on the bump. Im guessing that this is peroxide entering through the burrow and fizzing on the larvae.

For the mites I would use eucalyptus oil all over my body and scalp and leave for a couple of hours. The eucalyptus is similar to borax because it comes from that camphor/menthol family. It does not irritate skin. I used it full strength with no problems but some sites say you must dilute it with a carier oil. The next day I used 3% peroxide on my scalp and rubbed it vigorously into my scalp so it could get to any burrows and larvae. If eggs are constantly being laid then hatched then it requires diligence to catch all the hatching cycles and finally get the population down. I got on top of my scabies but I never treated my scalp and within 2 weeks I had woken up one morning with bites on my face and chest. After treating scalp and body Im not feeling any crawling feelings and there are no new bites, Fingers crossed.

Replied by Cathrine
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
I have had to add something else as I was so disgusted by what I found last night. I rubbed a little 12% hair peroxide into a couple of spots on my face that didnt show any bumps but I had felt crawling sensations over the past week. The areas turned into huge raised white welts one as big as 1cm. The peroxide was reacting with something under my skin. I tested some on a normal pimple and it didnt respond or go white. This was larvae and all their excretment under my skin. The areas that were infested were around my nostrils, under my eyebrows but above my lids and the upper lip (moustache) area. The skin appeared normal on the surface. I have now with a brush rubbed peroxide into my whole body and it seems my scalp, chest and face were the most heavily infested with a few small welts on my back. The scabies first presented on my hands and forearms and after treatment they returned the second time on my scalp and chest spreading to my face. I think I have killed all the larvae on my body now. Be aware that normal looking skin can have eggs underneath.
Replied by Maven
Glen Burnie, Md
It could have also been a fungal infection due to the weakening of the skin. I use the borax treatment, with peroxide and pour mineral oil around the base of the portion of leg showing, this effectively creates an oil barrier that they will get stuck in if they surface. I was prescribed clarithromycin for the fungal infection that had grown from the damn feces and larvae, regular occuring fungus is fueled by the feces it seems like.

All of the areas you noted are naturally oily areas of the face, but the seborratic derm was probably a manifestation of presence of mites. aka get nizoral, womens yeast infection cream, etc and try that on face. or go get some antibiotics, warning tho: if it is strong enough, be ready to feel all the mites on the move at once, my first dosage was while driving back from the ER, had to stop on side of the road. this time, I'll be at home and will hop in the shower 5-10 minutes after taken the meds. so when they run out... wash'n em down, let you all know how it goes. Treat this as a systemic problem, the feces is a huge factor, espcially if you get ringworm, (fungus) and with all the hot baths, you are bound to get ringworm or some other infection. FIght the war on all fronts troops!!

Posted by Itchy (Houston, Tx) on 01/11/2010

[YEA]  Scabies

My son got infected. Don't know how. Despite the warnings to treat everyone in the house, I only had my son taking the Borax baths. Well, now I'm infected, my other son, and my mother who does not live with us. I am going to start bathing everyone twice a day. But I wanted to report I saw two fresh welts on both my hands last night and began itching so I got a spray bottle and mixed warm water, borax, and peroxide. No measuring just pouring in, but you can't put too much borax because it will not dissolve and spray out. Itching stopped immediately when sprayed on. So I sprayed the kids down also. Usually there would be a bump left in those spots. Woke up this bump! Also, the itching in the morning would normally wake the kids up early in the morning. Every one was sound asleep!

Try this. My spray bottle was 8 oz so I'd say approx. 1tbs of borax, 1 tbs of peroxide, and 6oz of warm water (you need room to shake the botte to mix) Shake well the borax has to dissolve.

Replied by Craig
Windsor, Ontario
I went through this as well. My doctor said I had dry skin and a cream would work. This didn't work. I had the red bumps and it bothered me at night the crawlers as well and in the heat I was itchy. After finding this site I found out that it was scabies. Now I don't know where I got it from and I'm a very clean person but there is a lot of cures out there but the one I like is the borax when I shower and a warm the bottle of h-peroxide in the shower, after I shower I dump the bottle over me yes it does sting for a bit but it kills them, always put clean clothes on after words put dirty clothes in garbage bag first before showering! My cure is as follows...Clean everything, you house including window curtains,sills and ledges, clothes and any one there will have to be treated as well. These things are hard to get rid of. You should put dirty clothes in garbage bags IE orange for dirty black for clean that way bags don't get mixed up, use disposable latex gloves when doing laundry as well never us the same gloves twice (re-infection is why) so throw them away each time, bleach all floors including wood floors as well, they will get in the cracks, steam clean furniture throw rugs and carpets, for the bed get a plastic liner to encase the bed, same as the pillows. Wash plastic bed liner and pillows, head boards, foot boards bed rails basically sterilize the beds each day, rubbing alcohol does not work so don't bother it only chases them away do this before new linen goes on each day, keep bed away from the walls nothing should touch the walls if you have pets keep the bedroom doors closed at all times they will have it to so they will have to be treated as well and possibly caged and Isolated sadly enough:( the vet will have something for them or a cure on this site. For both dogs and cats it called "mange" as well all their bedding or scratching posts collars even the leash and dog house, everything must be done. You can get over the counter stuff,the pharmacist will know what product you can use. (NOTE: BE CAREFUL OF THIS STUFF IT CAN BE DANGEROUS AND POSSIBLY ALSO SIDE EFFECTS, IT HAS A PESTICIDE IN IT, THE SAME AS RAID USES.) If you use this stuff use only once. Make sure you get under the toe nails and finger nails also your private areas basically cover your self from head to toe and don't forget the bottom of the feet inside the ears as well, right up to your hair line, ANOTHER TRICK IS TO KEEP ONLY A SMALL QUANTITY OF CLOTHES FOR EACH PERSON TO WEAR ABOUT 3 DAYS WORTH ONLY, THE SAME AS BED LINEN AND ALL BLANKETS MAKE SURE TO DO ALL JACKETS,COATS SHOES AND BOOTS AS WELL. If you have a basement cement floor and you put dirty clothes on the floor well you guessed it this has to be bleached as well. The scabies can't live off the body for more than a week or two but I wanted to be safe so I waited a month with double bag dirty clothes, wash all clothes in the hot wash cycle( a little borax in the wash doesn't hurt either) and dry on high for 25 min or more. The expensive way is to dry clean them but let the cleaner know about the infection first. You must be very "I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH ABOUT THIS" you must be very diligent about this or they will come back trust me Third time's the charm. Really it took me three attempts and experimentation to get rid of these things but 5 months later we're all free and clear of these little buggers and my family and I have never felt better. If you follow this diligently and to the letter I promise you this will work but don't skip a step. Good Luck. Craig
Replied by Aladdin
Brooklyn, Ny
A reassessment of boric acid/borax by the United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pesticide Programs found potential developmental toxicity (especially effects on the testes). BE CAREFUL!
Replied by Red
Austin, Tx
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS]   I've had scabies for over 2 months. I've had 3 full body treatments with permetherin cream 5% from the Dr. It didn't work for me. I also tried one of the online treatments with enzymes and oil. It got better, but didn't go away. I started that after the 1st permetherine treatment failed. The combination didn't work either. I tried the borax/epsom salt/hydrogen peroxide bath suggested above - now that seemed to work, but I think the person who mentioned it could be toxic was right. I got the runs the next morning. I kept using it and it got much worse. I started vomiting too. I think it would work, but that was way too strong for me. I missed almost a week of work recovering. I found another one online that is the enzymes only and less expensive. This one also seems to be working, but I'm not getting sick from it. There was a big difference the first time. Hopefully, I'll be able to tell you in a week or so that it's totally gone. Another tip that someone else mentioned - avoid sweets. I'm borderline diabetic and when I ate a dessert or something, I noticed they were a LOT more active, and the # of bites went up. I felt like I was being eaten alive. I stopped eating any sugar, and it went down. So, that's my experience. Good luck.
Replied by Yvonne
Colbert, Wa
The runs could have been from the epsom salts, as they are magnesium, which can cause diarrhea if overdosed.
Replied by Thelman
Orlando, Florida
Im a single guy that is working hard and dont have that much time at home. So when I get back and get bitten all night Im going crazy RIGHT NOW on my laptop reading your cures. Well, after using those dumb bug bombs from home depot Im going with the borax. As soon as I get up in the morning Im going to do what you suggest. For 2 months now I have bumps everywhere and am GOING crazy so hopefully tomorrow night I can stop being the bug buffet. I hate these M##!! &% bugs. Thanks again
Replied by Sava
Charlotte, Nc
How long does this cure take to rid one of bird mites? I've started in the last 5 days. I also need to know how to rid them from my car and apartment. I have bamboo floors and can't use borax on them -- landlord wouldn't be a happy! I've been spraying windex in the car, but I still have them.

Any help would be appreciated. The two people I've tried to tell this about don't really believe me. They think I'm just stressed out. Who would make this up?

Replied by Icarus
Los Angeles, Ca
I just recently figured out that I have scabies, so my boyfriend and I have been doing a slue of things both to ourselves and the apt to do a full cleanse and it has been going great. We've seen a significant reduction of bites, itching, and all that jazz.
Cleaning house/apt. we've been using a mix of bleach and water on the mattress, borax powder on upholstery that we vacuum off after letting it set for an hour or 2, anything small enough and un-important enough has been bagged and will remain sealed for at least 5 days, and as far as cleaning the floor we've been using rubbing alcohol and water. Rubbing alcohol kills the mites when they're host-less. As far as your other inquiry about how long it takes, well, we've been doing all this stuff for a few days and have seen significant improvements (sulfur scrub in the morning [Brimstone salt scrub from lush] followed by calamine and lotion, tbls applecider vinegar at breakfast and before bed, borax bath at night along with an anti-histamine. Itching less, fewer bites, and it's only been a few days.
Replied by Jo
Culver City, Ca
Wanted to mention a piece most seem to overlook; I am using borax and peroxide; what a grateful being I am for it! But please realize there are welts and bites, and secondary allergic reactions; so often they persist and can keep the idea you are still infected, when you actually are free of the mites.

been using tea tree and neem oils topically if I am bothered between baths, I dry my bedding each morning, and clothes I wore the day before, and keep everything separated.... Best of luck!
Replied by Jaymak
Bird mites cannot reproduce without bird blood. They can feed on any blood, but need bird blood to reproduce. Get rid of the birds, ( I had one in my dryer vent with mites, and I was diagnosed with delisional parisitosis, before finally finding the cause) The doctors thought I was insane. Despite being very tiny, bird mites can sense your exhalation and will travel very very long distances to reach food. It was probably 30 feet of dryer vent and another 50 feet to reach my bed.

Posted by Gemini (Greenville, North Carolina, Usa) on 12/27/2009

[BETTER BUT NOT CURED]  My husband and I have scabies... I hate to admit it but its true. We work from city to city in 12 week spurts and contracted this evil critter during our last run, from a hotel, I'm sure.

He started scratching before me. In the beginning we thought it was because he had his hair cut the day the "itch" began. Once he showered and attempted to settle down for bed the itch became more intense. I assumed he had an allergy to something and gave him Benadryl. That night he was miserable after the Benadrly wore off and I slept like a baby. 3 days later I started to itch. I had red whwelts around my waist and buttocks. He only had red bumps on his arm and the small of his back.

When my Doctors office was open that next morning, I was the first in line. He diagnosed us as having scabies and prescribed permethrin for us both. IT DID NOT WORK! Second application DID NOT WORK!

So I hit the web, stumbled across Earth Clinic and began researching treatments for these evil mites... We have suffered 4 weeks with of lack of sleep and we cut off the connection with family and friends in fear the too may be infected with our unwanted critters.

I would recommend to anyone that has Scabies to try the Borax Soak- With all of the hair brained things we have tried this was the only that showed any progress for success... 3 cups borax, 2 cups epsom salt, 2 cups hydrogen peroxide in the hottest bath that you can tolerate. Soak for 30 mins. Do not rinse, pat dry and apply clear fingernail polish to the bumps. My theory was it would suficate them. We repeated this soak twice a day for 7 days. At the present we are on the road to recovery...(fingers crossed) I only have old bumps that have now dried and are fading and my hubby has 2 red angry whelts along with older bumps drying and fading. This is a far cry better than the HUNDREDS of spots, bumps, whelts, patches and brusing (from scratching)We will continue to do this soak every other day forever or until we have had zero break outs and all spots are healed for at lease 2 weeks.

Please keep in mind... I had our home sprayed and carpets cleaned along with wearing all clothing once and washing clothing asap in hot water and borax.

As for the occasional itch we use hand sanitizer. It cools the spot and we think it slows or kills the mites. I will admit that I have developed a mental issue with this ordeal. I fear that they will never go away fully. Everytime I feel anything crawly or itchy I automatically assume we were defeated again by the evil mites.... This is by far one of the most horrible experience of my life.

Good luck to all with this horrible illness. I pray that you find relief. I will follow up in soon to relay our progress. Happy Holidays, Genny

Replied by Georgia
Columbus, Ga
Replied by Brooke
Montgomery, Tx, Usa
Try using Eno salts and Glyco-thymoline. The ENo will alkalinize the body, a teaspoon in a glass of water every morning before breakfast for 6 to 7 days. Then take a cotton ball soaked in Glyco-thymoline and put that on the parts that are affected. When it has dried, put 2 ounces of Camphorated oil (which is just camphor and olive oil) and 1/2 ounce of lanolin in a bottle. Bathe the body with a sponge or massage this into your skin. It wouldn't hurt if you drank a little bit of Glyco-thymolie in water once or twice a day either, 4-6 drops in water.

Posted by Kymom (Bowling Green, Ky) on 11/27/2009

[YEA]  Scabies

After suffering for about 10 days with intense itching in the palms of my hands and fingers, I went to a dermatologist. I had been treating myself for hand eczema using suggestions from EC. The Derm felt I had scabies. I got the cream RX filled, but came to this site for recommendations to try first. That night I bathed in 2 cups of Borax with 1 bottle of hydrogen peroxide for 30 minutes. I slept all night without a terrible itching episode for the first time in nearly 2 weeks. I bathed the same for another 2 nights and also kept borax in my shower to use as a scrub in the mornings. I changed my sheets every day and only wore clothing one time. I washed everything in hot water and added borax to the laundry detergeant. Luckily, I am the only one here at home who has suffered. Don't know where they came from, but I have such peace of mind knowing that we can fix the problem without harmful creams. And the relief was almost instant! I am continuing to use Borax with my laundry detergeant and scrub with it on the spots that may come up.

Thank you to Earth Clinic for this site and for all of you who post here. I also had a terrible case of acid reflux for a month solid that I cured with apple cider vinegar after reading here. It took 4-6 weeks, but I have absolutely no symptoms now.

Posted by Lori (Edmond, Oklahoma, Usa) on 11/13/2009

[YEA]  I would like to thank everyone who posted a cure for scabies on the site, you were all a godsend. I recieved some items, clothes, furniture ect. from a family friend who was cleaning out her garage. I also got bedbugs and scabies. We had no idea what was going on. I have four boys and they were scratching up a storm. I thought I was going crazy. We'd just switched detergents, so I thought that must be it, but it wasn't. When I told my friend about it, she was very concerned that we may have gotten scabies from her things, because she didn't think they could live that long. So I went to the dr. and she thought it was allergies too. But it wasn't and the use of the borax and peroxide soak proved it. I found a questionaire on another website, and every answer was yes. When I found this website, I thanked god. I combined 2-cups of borax with 1 bottle of peroxide, this into a full tub of water as hot as you can stand it.

For my children I used 1 cup borax and 1/2 cup of peroxide. I also decided to use the antibacterial soap. I did this because although we have all been afflicted with the bites, my husband hands and arms are totally clear. Where he works he always has to use the antibacterial gel, you know the inst-wash stuff. and he just rubs it on like lotion. So we've started using that too. Just in case anyone else thinks it might help. Good luck to all of you. We'll be taking bath #2 tonight, and another tomorrow. Then start again next friday. Also I'm gonna try the Diatomaceous earth powder. Have any of you ever heard of Dri-Die? It's supposed to kill bedbugs, and other creepy crawlies. Is it anything like DE? Thanks...Lori

Replied by Melody
Kansas City
How long ago had your friend had Scabies when you got her furniture, clothing etc.? I heard they die after 3 days when they don't have a human host.