I was so so sick yesterday, and by the evening desperate to feel better. I have Dengue Fever, Encephalitis and Varicella in my CNS, Lungs and Liver. I am on a protocol to eliminate those, so no worries.... The day before I had taken a Tbsp of High Maize Resistant Starch ( my first big dose) and that, for some reason, set the viruses off! I could hardly breathe - so sick and started to write my Will.
I had a 2 year half used bottle of Optimally Organic Fulvic Acid, and in the evening decided to try that, because of a post I read from Ted where he saved someone from a serious viral disease with humid acid powder. Took 12 drops in distilled water, in split doses, two hours apart, and omg! All the viruses abetted, I could breathe, my eyes could open and I felt 100% amazing. Not sure what this poster is saying, but O. Organic literally saved me......
Sleep so well, felt wonderful upon awakening.
I was even following Ted's advice on small dose of lysine every hour - did nothing for me. He says that will help eliminate viruses as it controls blood sugar, cortisol, which is what viruses feed on. Did nothing for me. It was the O Organic that truly did the trick.
Where to Buy: USA
I've been trying a fulvic/humic combo and cannot believe the results! After 9 years of being pregnant or nursing I've got my mojo back with a vegence- this is a wonderful thing for my marriage believe me LOL I am happier, I have tons more energy, I am laughing and joking and getting so much accomplished it's not funny LOL After years of trying every lotion and potion out there, this (next to mineral drops) this is hands down the best thing EVER! I found a raw food family in British Columbia that sell real raw food that started carrying it. I hear not all sources are created equal ;-( It's been amazing with my kids, they are playing for hours on end without bickering (we homeschool so they are together all the time)... Amazing stuff!
Chronic Skin Condition
I would like to share my story regarding fulvic acids in hopes that it would be helpful to others. Although I have practiced a natural health oriented lifestyle for over three decades, I still developed a severe chronic skin condition on my hands many years ago. My fingers would become inflamed and itchy, then the skin would crack and either weep or bleed. I had limited motion of my fingers and they would be very painful when bending or being exposed to water. Even eating organic fruit would aggravate this condition. During the worst state of this condition, one of my fingers looked like a badly corroded car battery terminal. I had literally spent thousands of dollars on organic foods, whole food supplementation and natural remedies in an attempt to get rid of this miserable condition but only experienced partial success.
Then in September of 2015 I tried a new fulvic acids product, taking only one-quarter ounce per day. And a little over a month later (before I finished the second bottle), the skin on my hands had been completely healed without any trace of the chronic condition I had suffered with for so many years! I was SO elated! Since I wasn't sure whether the fulvic acids product I was taking was responsible for this result, I did not reorder it after finishing the second bottle just to see what would happen. After several weeks had passed, the symptoms began to return so I placed another order for two more bottles.
Again, the condition totally cleared up after about a month later. Then after finishing the fourth bottle, I decided not to reorder immediately just to see if the condition would return. Several weeks later, the symptoms began to return again. But shortly after taking the fulvic acids product again, the symptoms completely subsided. This proved to me that the fulvic acids product was solely responsible for clearing up this condition and as long as I am on this product, my hands look perfectly healthy. I had previously tried at least four other brands of fulvic acids—including the one that claims to be a 350X concentrate—but NO improvement was ever seen with my dreadful condition. I don't know whether this product worked by detoxifying my body or strengthening my immunity, but however it was accomplished I am just grateful to God that I found this life-changing “miracle in a bottle”. Hopefully, my story will be an inspiration to others. Thank you.
Could someone please let me know what brand of fulvic acid I can buy in London, Ontario. I went to an Ontario Growers Supply and bought some, and on the exterior it says liquid gold, yet it also states on the label - DO NOT swallow! Suffice it to say, I'm a little confused. Thanks.
For well over a decade, I have suffered from a chronic skin condition on my hands. They would itch, become inflamed, and swell. Then my fingers would crack and bleed. It was very painful, looked horrifying at its worst state, and made my life miserable. I don't know if it was eczema or psoriasis or whether it was caused by parasites or a fungal infection. I just knew I wanted to be free from it. No matter how much money I spent on natural and non-toxic remedies and supplements, I could never fully get rid of it.
I even tried about a half-dozen fulvic acid products including several of those commonly mentioned on this forum, but saw zero improvement. Several of those products were extracted from the humate deposit in northwestern New Mexico in the USA which is touted as being the “best" fulvic source in the world. However, when it was tested for fulvic content it was actually quite low.
Despite my past experiences, I decided to try yet another fulvic product in 2015 even though I did not have very high expectations. The company selling it claimed their fulvic product was superior from competing products for two important reasons. First, the source of the unique leonardite shale comes from a rare deposit which is one of only two in the world. It is located in a remote and pristine environment and the shale is uncontaminated with a high concentration and quality of fulvic.
Second, the extraction is done using a patented, non-chemical process. Most fulvic is extracted using chemicals or a simple water extraction, but both methods yield very low fulvic content despite marketing claims to the contrary.
After just six weeks from the time I began adding this ultra-concentrated fulvic product to my daily regimen and taking it internally (at the amount recommended on the label), my skin condition was totally healed. I could hardly believe my eyes because it was not 90 or 95 percent gone, it was as though I had never had this skin condition. This proved to me that not all fulvic products are equal.
In addition, my allergy symptoms were significantly reduced. And my wife, who is a marathon runner, experienced much greater performance and endurance, plus her menstrual cramping and severe sinus pressure disappeared after she began consuming this same fulvic product.
Another person who had a life-changing experience was a client of my wife who has epilepsy and chronic fatigue syndrome. Within weeks after starting this particular fulvic, all of the multiple smaller seizures she had daily—that her anti-seizure medication does not help with—ceased, and her chronic fatigue symptoms were reversed. She was no longer a recluse and literally had a new lease on life.
Several months later, she ran out of this fulvic product and purchased a different brand, thinking it would produce the same therapeutic effect. However, the symptoms soon returned and she became bedridden again. Once she got more of this particular fulvic, her symptoms abated. Now she never wants to be without it ever again because of the remarkable difference it has made.
And neither do I. I have no doubt that this phenomenal dietary supplement will enhance anyone's wellbeing by supporting the body's innate ability to regenerate and guard against sickness, disease and premature aging. It even helps plants and animals to thrive as well.
I truly hope my story will inspire others who have been searching for a natural solution to their long-standing health issues to never give up because the answer is available to those who believe and search for it. Blessings!
I would like to now where I can buy Fulvic Acid? I am worry to buy the wrong product and wich is the dose for cancer?
About two years ago I tried a humic supplement (black water) and the wide spectrum of benefits that I observed was nothing short of phenomenal! Everything from remission of long-term sleep disorders, alleviation of severe, long-term depression, tobacco cravings virtually eliminated, physical and mental energy in abundance ... it was unforgettable!!!
Mind you, this was a HUMIC substance, and it was completely black. When you would add it to your water, it would mushroom-cloud (like chlorophyl does) and turn it completely black. This is a product that is no longer being made, so perhaps I will have permission to list the brand? It was by Dr. Lamar's products, they stopped making it over 2 years ago.
Alot of people talk alot about how great fulvic acid is, and it really is good, but fulvates are derivatives of humates, and in my experience, humic supplements are vastly superior. I NEVER responded like that to ANY one supplement I had ever taken in my life, and I've been popping supplements and cures for almost 30 years!
Humic substances are not given the fanfare that they rightfully deserve (at least not outside the gardening community). Instead most companies produce fulvic substances. I highly reccommend trying a black water HUMIC supplement, and it should indeed change your water black, not brown or gold like the fulvates do. There are several companies that produce a true HUMIC product, just do a bit of Scroogling and you should find them. Some of them offer fulvic AND humic acids in seperate bottles. This is a great idea. Feel free to write me with any thoughts, questions or comments! Needless to say I am a bonafide believer in the black water humics!
It's been 3 months for my experiment with Fulvic Acid, as promised here is my report on my experience. First a brief history for why I chose fulvic acid. I had another bought of tendonitis, this time in my left shoulder, left elbow, left wrist. At first it wasn't that bad, not until my co-worker and I were in the warehouse where I work, and a rake handle knocked a box above our head off the shelf above us. Out of reflex action, I through my left arm up to keep the box from falling on our heads. I heard and felt a pop, and then I almost passed out from the pain. I had to stand there for a few minutes holding my arm, taking deep breaths and trying not to black out, that's how bad it was.
I heard about fulvic acid speeding the recovery of many ailments, tendonitis included, so I thought I would give it a go, I had nothing to loose, and my left arm was now practically useless. I had trouble getting dressed, couldn't raise my arm even high enough to shave, couldn't even put my hand on my hips, it just dangled there. I am happy to report that it is now nearly recovered, and I am shocked how far it has come in such a short amount of time. I can now do anything with it that I need to without noticing any pain. I still need to rebuild strength in it for lack of use all these months, but that should come in time. The only time I do feel a slight twinge of pain is when I reach back to undo my bra, but I feel even that is only slight, and in a short amount of time I will not feel that anymore either.
Other pluses about taking fulvic acid was that my left eyebrow grew back in. For years I've had a bald spot about 1/4 inch on my left eyebrow, that I just penciled in, I have hair there now, blows my mind. My eyelashes are longer too. I have so much hair on my head, that I can't tell if it is fuller or not (sorry), this would be worth a shot for those who have thinning hair and could afford to test fulvic acid for this condition, might take longer than 3 months to test though. Toe nail fungus is gone. Although I didn't have it very bad, just a little on 2 toes on my right foot, but it is gone now. Three black heads I have on my face, the smallest one is gone, and the 2 larger ones are much smaller now. All these little pluses tell me I am healing from the inside out.
Other supplements I took on a daily bases with weekends off (I always rest my body of any supplements on weekends). These I took before tendonitis.
1.)Greens drink )My multi vitamin/mineral.)
2.)Vitamin E (to keep from having hot flashes)
3.)Cod liver oil (twice a week)
5.)Vitamin D3 (twice a week)
6.)Extra virgin coconut oil
When I got the tendonitis, I still took all the above, but took some additional sups as well, all fresh herbs I cap myself. All for inflamation and pain reasons.
1.)Turmeric with fresh grated black pepper
2.)Ginger root powder
3.)Yucca root powder.
Now this is the part you are going to hate, because I can't tell if one is better than the other, but I took 2 different kinds of fulvic acid. In the morning mixed in my greens drink, I took the fulvic acid minerals 300X strength 12 drops from optimally organic. In the evening I took one ounce in 8 ounces of water of the Wu Jin San Fulvic acid from Bioag.
The fulvic acid from Optimally Organic was bitter that's why I hid the taste in my greens drink, but the Wu Jin San has no taste at all, so I could take that in water.
Just a few more things I want to add before I close is the amount of energy I had. It did not seem to matter if I had 2 hours sleep or 9 hours sleep, I always had the energy to make it through the day. I also found myself happier, laughing so much more, I just feel better all way around. I still get my monthly, and it has been steady for these 3 months. Exactly 31 days cycle, like I did when I was young. This past year and a half, my period became irregular, sometimes it would come every 3 weeks, sometimes I would miss a month, never knew when it would hit, but these 3 months have been right on Q. I hope I covered everything, and was clear enough for everyone. Writing is not my best feature, Peace, Rena.
P.S. BTW 49 year old female
EC: Fantastic feedback, thank you Rena!
For years I've suffered severe neck and back pain, diagnosed as fybromyalgia. 7 days on fulvic acid has relieved 90% of the pain! I haven't felt this good in years! I've gained vitality, clarity, hope and concentration. I can't recommend it enough.
Fulvic and Humic Acid: This stuff is abosolutely the most amazing natural cure i've tried yet. I have some kind of hormone or thyroid condition and the doctors were never able to find anything wrong with me. It's caused all kinds of problems. Irregular periods, forgetfullness, weight gain, dry cracked feet, no energy, hair loss, dry brittle hair etc. I have taken humic and fulvic acid for 18 days and have so much energy (like drinking 5 cups of coffee) Also I can finally remember things. It was so bad I would forget what I was talking about in a conversation. I have stopped losing so much hair and am losing weight. We will have to see if if helps the irregular periods and cracked feet. But thing stuff is absolutely amaging. I got it from _____. Contains 72 minerals and vit c, a and e.
The most important issue seems to be left out here. The way the acids are extracted is of paramount importance. Bio ag and others are still using Acid precipitation to extract fulvic acid and in the process they are combining the naturally occurring organic minerals with an acid rendering them sulfates or nitrates or the signature of which ever acid used. Non-precipitated products are the only ones that are safe for human consumption.
Where to Buy: Australia
Hi , I found the best fulvic/humic/zeolyte and other trace minerals and the whole family is using it even my Mom and my Dad. It does wonders. Even my friends are now using it. If you are still interested to know where I buy it from pls provide us with your contact info. I am buying it from outside US and they mail it to me directly for my personal use.
I ran across fulvic acid quite by accident and started using it as a preventative supplement for various conditions. I noticed that I had more energy, better concentration and a general sense of better health but found another interesting effect. Fulvic acid is a chelator that helps detox the body. I think it took the nicotine and other pollutants from smoking out of my body so that I no longer had the strong cravings. In fact, sometimes I found the cigarettes distasteful so I just quit. The one problem I had with quitting was the physiological reaction of my lungs still wanting that feeling of being filled by the smoke. I solved that just by inhaling and exhaling as if I was smoking without the smoke and it reduced those cravings. I've been off cigarettes for two weeks now. As Samuel Clements aka Mark Twain said, quiting smoking is easy, I've done it hundreds of times. Well so have I. I have a feeling though, this time will be my last time quitting. I just am not having the cravings I had the other hundreds of times I tried quitting and it's just been so darned easy. If this isn't detoxing, I don't know what is.
I use a concentrated form of fulic, 350 times in liquid form. I add 12 drops to to juice or tea. It seems to react to milk so don't use that. Also, as it is a chelator it's highly reactive so don't buy it in any kind of plastic container, only glass. Plastic is also now found to contain a chemical that might contribute to erectile disfunction so stay away from it as much as possible. I won't even use a plastic cup with fulvic acid because of how reactive it is.
EarthClinic won't let us post specific products but maybe they'll let these key words through so you can find it on your own if you do a search. Fulvic Acid, Optimally, Organic. If they let this through then you'll find a supplier that provides several reports on the site that tells of the many other benefits of fulvic acid and one that offers the best value I've found so far in a quality product in a glass container.
Hi there, yes that is where I got mine ;-) I know EC doesn't usually let you post websites or supplier names. They are an awesome company!
So update June 2011. So as with anything you begin to wonder what is making you feel great and if it is truly just 1 thing. Well I ran out of the fulvic/humic solution a few months back. I didn't really understand that much about it and that it could help with colds and flus and allergies etc. In the spring one of my kids got sick and coughed for 2 months and I tried everything to help her from a holistic standpoint (finally got an ND to help with chinese tinctures etc. And we have indoor air quality issues. )
Sooooo long story short, I've been exhausted, cranky, tired, unmotivated, argumentative, not interested in sex AT ALL etc. I GOT MORE OF THIS SOLUTION. BUT I started taking 2 ounces a day, then sometimes 4 and even 6 ounces. I'm not sure if this is ok, I can't find any information on 'taking too much' so if someone does if they could post that, I'd appreciate it. BUT I FEEL BEYOND INCREDIBLE. I homeschool my 3 kids, my youngest is 2 and our life is VERY busy and my hsuband works ALOT. I am not feeling SO amazing I am doing karate 5 days a week (2 hours a class), I am as mentioned before - laughing, and having fun, going out on dates with my husband, feeling AWESOME, jumping on the trampoline for an hour a day (that is btw NOT an easy feat and is extremely intense), roller skating for 2-3 hours straight several times a week with my kids, buying new clothes because I feel so great!!! Wearing makeup for the first time in years, caring what I look like etc. The kicker is I find my husband EXTREMELY attractive again which is bonus for him! LOL We both did the master cleanse for 10 days and that was a good kick start before I started taking the fulvi/humic mix again. My friend still had one I had given her before so I took it and am awaiting more- until then I have only been giving my husband and kids a little bit because I've been taking the larger amounts!!! As someone mentioned above it is like drinking a bunch of cups of coffee- the energy, the mental clarity, the happiness- it's pretty cool that is for sure! I'm getting up at 6 am in the morning for the first time in years and years and I'm roaring around on 5 hours sleep (up vaccuming at 1am after the kids and hubby are all asleep so I can lay in the sun for a half hour each morning LOL). I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on supplements over the last 10 years, transdermal magnesium, zapping, hydrogen peroxide, b vitamins, greens, powders, chlorella, barley, grown my own wheatgrass and sprouts, vega, homeopathics, herbs for teas, tincutres, fish oils, concentrace drops, essential oils etc. And it's been SO SO SO MUCH WORK (if you are a mom with little kids you know how much work it is to be changing your diet and doing all things healthy to feel better-which usually means spending ALL day in the kitchen!!! ) This is one EASY addition to my day that makes me feel better and more amazing then any of the other things in my life that I've ever take.
** note though, I also take lots of ______ vitamin c a day too, but I always have and I'm a big believer in high c. It gives me energy but the 2 products are night and day. I don't make any money or anything from recommending the fulvic/humic solution or vitamin c, but you can email me at holisticparents at yahoo dot com if you want anymore information or to prove I'm legit and just a mom getting awesome results!!! ** also worth noting is that the only reason I bought this to try was because this family doesn't carry a whole lot of things on their site other then food so I thought hmmmm I've heard of that stuff- if they are using it, maybe I should too LOL They don't advertise or push their stuff - in fact I couldn't really get much information out of them on it verbally so I just read the articles on it on their website. Hope this helps someone!!!
Chronic Skin Condition
Hi and thanks for your reply. The fulvic acids product I used that actually worked isn't any of those brands mentioned on this forum. I did include a link to the fulvic acids product that helped me in my original posting, but it did not get posted. If you want to contact me directly at pjsmith2011 at mail dot com, I will let you know.
Regarding using pasteurized milk to make kefir, I would personally not recommend it. Raw cow milk is hard for humans to digest since it was designed to support the growth of baby cattle. And when it is subjected to high heat through pasteurization, the proteins become denatured and the body recognizes them as a toxin rather than a nourishing food. There is a reason dairy products are among the most common dietary allergens.
I would suggest using raw goat milk for making kefir if you can find it since goat milk is much more digestible than cow milk.
However, the company that sells the fulvic acids product I use also has an excellent probiotic product that is made from fermented organic and non-GMO foods rather than fecal matter as some probiotics are made from. It does not require any refrigeration either.
Hope this helps and I wish you success in your wellness journey.
Buying Guide to Humic and Fulvic Acid
What You Need To Know About Buying Fulvic-Humic Acid.
I decided to write a small buying guide for fulvic and humic acid due to the fact that the information is spread all over the place and can be very confusing so will try to condense the info in one post. It makes it a very time consuming subject to truly research. When you're sick, it becomes an obstacle. This doesn't answer all the questions but it will hopefully be a short cut to getting up to speed and starting your journey into using humus for health. I am not an expert, so please do your own due diligence.
I will connote Fulvic Acid as FA and Humic acid as HA.
Here are the key considerations in buying FA/HA:
2) Heavy metals
3) Strength, Quantity and Cost
The labeling is definitely one of the biggest barriers to comparing products. Some tests measure the gross amount of HA and FA while others can give separate figures for both which the International Humic Substance Society promotes. Many refuse to label due to lack of an agreed upon standard. I do think this is a cop out.
Some labeling may be effected by the state law in a few states. I think most people want to know the proportion of HA and FA in a product.
"There is a lack of universal standards for measuring and labeling so consumer has another barrier to overcome. Numbers quoted by products may be like comparing apples to oranges."
"No matter what method is used the fact remains that until a single test is made standard and used by all registration agencies the confusion will continue through the marketplace. "
Any formulation which contains minerals could possibly have heavy metals. Since HA/FA gives the body the ability to absorb nutrients including minerals, heavy metals is a concern especially of one intends to take it for the long term. There are reports of high amount of lead, aluminum, mercury and arsenic in some brands.
FA/HA should not be taken in raw or unprocessed form since it may contain fungus growth.
I have found that the well known brands tend to minimize or remove the toxic metals. I can't vouch for the testing labs they use. The problem with so many products is that you have to dig for even this info. If your calculating the amount from numbers you need to know the amount of heavy metal in a daily serving.
Here is a contrarian view of the heavy metal issue.
I think most people will opt to not go there because it is the more unknown and they need more effort to do due diligence. I haven't come across any beneficial types of aluminum but I haven't researched the subject enough to confirm that.
It isn't whether it has aluminum or lead in it that matters but the daily amount you would consume. In a few brands I found that have aluminum, they keep it to 1/10th the average daily amount that a person gets in their food. One of those brands was a purified fertilizer brand.
Strength, Quantity and Cost
Cost is a product of strength and quantity.
The current labeling issues I discussed above makes it very difficult to clearly compare brands.
For liquid concentrated solutions, there is a good write up here
but another brand will say http://www.supremefulvic.com/faq.php#ques05
Again I think claiming "no universal standard" is a cop out. They could use the IHSS anointed test and give some type of info. They could use other tests, specify which test they used. I think they have to make some type of effort to give some data even if not perfect.
There are liquid, powder and extracts. There are varying degrees of humid and fulvic. I am still in my infancy in understanding this myself but I will leave you to decide. Maybe someone can chime in with another perspective on this issue.
Some people may want to formulate their own mixture so flecibility may be important. Obtaining more pure humus may be the way they want to go. Ted has advocated a 70/30 fulvic/humic blend ratio.
When To Take
As far as when you take it, it depends if your taking medications and what you are eating. If you know the food your eating is very healthy meaning it has minimal contaminants - such as pesticides, chemicals, not organic etc. - then taking the fulvic acid with meals should be very beneficial. Otherwise probably take it 1/2 hour before eating or 2 hours after eating. If using medications, take 2 hours apart.
One major caveat is - Do not use with chlorinated water. Filtered water should be ok. Chlorine interacts with it in a negative way.
Filtered water should be ok. Chlorine interacts with it in a negative way.
I don't endorse any product but just point out the more well known ones out there. Shilajit Shilajit is used in Ayurvedic medicine. Reported to contain at least 85 minerals in ionic form, as well as triterpenes, humic acid and fulvic acid. Shilajit should not be taken in raw or unprocessed form since it may contain fungus growth. Not all Shilajit is created equal due to heavy metals and contaminants.
Life Extension uses Primavie brand in it's formulations. This seems to be at least one of the gold standard brand for purity. It is used in research studies. WuJinSan WuJinSan is a purified fulvic Acid without the minerals. This in essence is the active ingredient. This should be one of the cleanest products.
Garden store variety HA/FA The advantage of Garden store variety is low cost. The supposed disadvantage is heavy metals. Ted advocates this.
In such a blend, Ted recommends adding a tspn or two of ACV or ordinary vinegar to the HA/FA mixture, thus acidifying the mixture, which will therefore act to precipitate out and remove the Humic acid component, leaving just the more useful and beneficial Fulvic acid in solution. Humifulvate Humet-R This is peat derived humate is more dominated by humic acid. It wasn't easy to find heavy metal content but in long pdf paper buried deeply, I concluded it was low. TeraVita SP-90 Humic Acid 100% Soluble Powder is 90% or more humic acid. This is advertised as fertilizer. It says it has 1% aluminum but doing the calculation based on daily dose of 1 oz, it is very low amount. The reason why one may want to use this is because humic acid won't be absorbed by body but stay in the colon.
You also have products by companies in referenced links above.
Some Addition info
I have seen it repeated that Fulvic acid is derived from Humic Acid. That is incorrect. Fulvic Acid is derived from Humus as seen below. It is a portion of the Humus Substances.
Organic soil matter (decaying non living matter) -> Humus (Substances) Humus is well rotted and will unlikely break down further. A humus layer can be 40 million years old. A rule of thumb about the quality: the older the better.
Humus Substances -> Humic Acids (soluble at high ph) (Yellow)
Humus Substances -> Fulvic Acids (soluble at any PH) (Black)
Humus Substances -> Humin (insoluble at any PH)(Black) http://www.humintech.com/pdf/humicfulvicacids.pdf
Humic & Fulvic acids contents of various materials Natural Sources Humic Acids % Fulvic Acids % Leonardite/Humate 40 85 Black Peat 10 40 Sapropel Peat 10 20 Brown Coal 10 30
Fulvic Acid is generally considered the active ingredient. This does not mean that humic acid us not an active ingredient also. Fulvic acid mainly transports particles, while humic acid mainly binds particles. They both have useful medicinal functions.
Humic acid is thought to support the removal of heavy metals from the body by acting as a chelator. It may be possible for the body to accumulate metals within the stomach, and chelators are thought to help remove these metals from the stomach by latching on the metals within the stomach and supporting their removal from the body.
Hi Al, Some additional data on why not to mix Chlorine with Humic or Fulvic Acids:
Here is an article which explains why in detail:
http://www.info-archive.com/fulv cancer fighting.htm
"Fulvic Acid Minerals Information
Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated tap water
Some of nature's most valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical nutrients which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly cancer causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven that these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment and chlorine industries for years.
Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural University. They determined that natural organic substances originating from foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap water is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly compounds have been named MX, which stands for "unknown mutagen", and are similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer causing THMs (trihalomethanes).
The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic plant phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and flavonoids which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption of tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and water recycling systems.
Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors.
THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the same as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized nutritionally by plants.
Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified the composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount of nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited to: flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, tocopherols, etc.
These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and rutin are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are implicated by chlorination.
Amazingly, is has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain intact, concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which are valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within fruits, flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA remain intact.
To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for turning them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the organic substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure drinking water in trace amounts.
The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, and the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant foods we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, green salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can be implicated in combination with chlorinated water.
The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated health supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile soils, the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies.
It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) which are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains them. THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses.
The Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their restrictions on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around the bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies and chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look at food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, preparation, and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water.
There is good reason for the public to seriously examine and question this entire issue. Many years ago laws were passed making chlorination of water mandatory. Now, the chlorine industry and government agencies must continue their existing policies, because if sudden or drastic changes are made, the legal liabilities would be staggering. Certainly some government or industry personnel have known or theorized about these problems and have been covering them up for many years. However, if anyone were to admit to it, the consequences could be disastrous. This predicament could make the tobacco industry scandal seem insignificant in comparison.
Another area needing thorough scrutiny relates to pharmaceutical drug safety studies normally performed on animals in the laboratory. It would be reasonable to surmise that good laboratory practices and procedures would require that such studies be performed using highly purified drinking water for animals. It would be reasonable to believe that drug companies would not take the chance of jeopardizing clinical studies using chlorinated tap water. Of course chlorinated tap water is a common denominator within the human environment. Educating people to the dangers of chlorine would be admitting to knowledge of the problem, which could invalidate past studies and certainly raise serious legal problems.
This whole chlorine issue should come as no real surprise to any biochemist. During the last century, chlorine has been combined with many other normally safe organic substances to form some of the most powerful deadly toxins known, such as dioxin, DDT, PCBs, etc. The bottom line is that the real culprit is chlorine, not the substances with which it reacts.
Although chlorine has essentially eliminated the risks of waterborne diseases such as typhoid fever, cholera and dysentery, there are many pathogens that are not controlled by chlorine. Other and better methods of water treatment exist. Many alternatives are already used throughout the world. Ever tightening EPA regulations have forced the water supply industry in the USA to look into alternative methods for disinfecting water.
For years, environmentalists have battled the water treatment industry and large chemical companies in an effort to ban the use of chlorine in drinking water. This ongoing battle has been a big source of revenue for both sides. As word of the problem spreads to the general public, something might actually be done about it.
As this message spreads, it will no doubt shake the very foundations of the chlorine and water treatment industries, let alone the government agencies that are implicated along with them. There certainly should be cause for serious alarm within the nutritional supplement and food industries, as well as those segments of the medical industry that might awaken to the dilemma.
This message is of utmost importance to the general public, because chlorine will one day, in the near future, be exposed as a major cause and contributor to cancer and degenerative disease. Chlorine will also be found to be responsible for damaging the body's immune and hormonal systems by mutating the food-based plant estrogens and phytochemicals that support those systems. A healthy immune system should be your first and best line of defense against waterborne disease.
Recer, P; Water chlorine byproduct may be cancer risk; June 18, 1997; Associated Press
Christman, RF; Kronberg, K; Singh, R; Ball, LM; Johnson, DJ; Report 259: Identification of Mutagenic By-products from Aquatic Humic Chlorination; North Carolina State University
Rhomberg, L Ph. D. ; Risk In Perspective: Are Chemicals In the Environment Disrupting Hormonal Control Of Growth and Development? April 1, 1996; Harvard Center for Risk Analysis
Japanese data related to MX and the Shizuoka Prefectural University has been extracted from various abstracts published by the American Water Works Association (AWWA), and the National Institute of Health (NIH).
Plant phytochemicals and nutrient groups can be determined from information within the Organic Chemical Tables; Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS), a division of the American Chemical Society."
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It's down at the very bottom of the article - it suggests either Enzymatic Therapy's complete metal cleanse (which is made from fulvic acid concentrated from a Hungarian bog) or Morningstar Minerals product (it has a few on iherb). I'm experimenting with the former - I want to give it a bit longer before I really comment, but so far I'm very pleased and think it's actually working - both more energy and less stressy. Just don't take it last thing at night, I'm finding I don't sleep well and have very weird dreams if I do. Zeolite stuff is a whole other can of worms - exactly like fulvic, lots of manufacturers with wild claims and attacking each other - very difficult to find anyone who has done research with their own product. Good luck! - and do tell me if you try either of the products above, interested to compare notes...
Where to Buy: USA
I have found a fossilized plant humic acid and the company sells the liquid form as food grade; but not for human consumption. After much research I have found out the powdered form is the same source sold by other companies for double or triple the amount. I know I cannot give a name but if you will type in food grade humic acid in the google search I think you should find it. The company is a gardening company. Hope this helps.
Bill Thompson, Thanks!
I have your book Re Candida. You mention taking a few granules of humic/fulvic. Please help us find a good source. I've been using Carboxy from CellCore and just bought some BOO (black oxygen organics)from Canada. These are very expensive. Plus they turn the water black and you said it should be light golden brown, not black. Please help!
Hi Lauren... I use humic/fulvic acid on a weekly basis. I also just buy it from the garden center as granules or powder because its way cheaper than buying the organic or edible "standardized" forms.
To make the drink I just add a small amount of Humic Acid to water so that the water has a light brown see-through appearance(not black). I also always add a small amount of sodium bicarbonate to make the water alkaline. Then I just add a few drops of lugols iodine or a few drops of 10% sodium thiosulphate to remove any heavy metals and bad halogens and then just drink it like that.
Humic acid is just 75 million year old plant humus that has been broken down by enzymes and has also had high thermodynamic pressure applied to it because it is found compacted in rock strata.
Humic Acid makes body metabolism much more efficient, it is a wonderful detoxer of poisons and also has strong anti-viral action.
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Hi John, Your reaction is interesting because fulvic acid is known to be a powerful detoxifier of herbicides, pesticides and other poisons including radioactive elements. Your reaction could actually have been one of rapid detoxification if any of these were in your system. Not sure how much you took but, maybe back off and slowly introduce it. I personally, take shilajit daily from an excellent source. Hope this information helps you. Lisa
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I had the same reaction to it when I took the dose they say to take, I quit it for a while then started back up with only 1 drop a day for a few days then started upping it and it works amazingly.
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Hello there Siri NYC,
I was wondering if the Fulvic Acid did you any good when all was said and done. Was that just a detox you were going through? Did you keep or discontinue this supplement?
I have been trying the Fulvic Acid out about a week. I now hope to improve blood circulation. I did one drop once a day for about 3 days, then I moved up to two drops, now I am on 3 drops once a day. I am doing well so far. I do believe I am thinking much clearer. That all I can say for right now.
Let me also add that the fulvic acid, also caused me to remember my dreams even when I took only one drop a day. I hope this is a clue that it is helping my blood circulation.
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Do you think the poster from 2010 meant Bioag or wow wallace?
Humic acid and fulvic acid are substances that Ted values highly.
My question is of what ingredients are they composed and how sanitary is the production? I have never heard of them before and like to know these things. Thank you
Hi Jen, Shilajit is completely safe and is highly revered in Aryuvedic medicine. It helps to re-mineralize the body and a host of many other benefits. It is to some, the ideal fulvic acid. It is safe to use it everyday and is very good for you. You can find lots of detailed information about it online. It is really coming to the forefront in the alternative medicine world.
Still, as with all things, I like to give my body a rest after a week or two of anything. So, for instance, if I am taking herbs, I'll go for a full week or maybe even two and then stop for a day or two before I return. That is a protocol embraced by many. That way the body does not become completely dependent upon something to stay healthy. Hope this helps you. Lisa
Where to Buy: USA
Could you please send a private email and let me know where I can buy the granulated humic acid/fulvic acid. I want to be able to make my own mixture as Ted does. I don't want to spend alot of money on the Fulvic Acid products that I've found online. And my local health food store has no idea what I'm talking about when I ask for fulvic acid.
I want to take it as a mineral supplement as my family has no known illnesses. I simply want to get the amount of fulvic acid that one would get if our soil wasn't depleted.
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Hi Maria - In case Wendy doesn't see your question, this may be the supplier she uses for fulvic/humic acid (all organic I believe) - Real Raw Food located in Naramata, BC. The Web site is www.realrawfood.com.
I haven't ordered from them yet but, after reading about Wendy's great results, I've added it to my wish list!
I don't know if it's Wendy's supplier but it sure sounds similar. Cheers, Bess
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I was just wondering if you still feel the same way about the minerals several years later and if you have had any side effects.
I firmly believe the original poster is using the supremefulvic brand. The description on how its extracted and source is similar to the faq section of the site.
I am using the same brand as well and it provided "immediate" relief to my reflux and eventually curing it.
It's how I knew mine is just not placebo.
I am continuing using it to see if there are other benefits
Where to Buy: Singapore
I would like to keep in touch with below person being relief by taking Fulvic acid so need Bronwyn (LA, USA)to advise where did he get the Fulvic acid(brand). This is because having the same sickness.
Posted by Bronwyn (LA, USA) on 12/27/2008
[YEA] For years I've suffered severe neck and back pain, diagnosed as fybromyalgia. 7 days on fulvic acid has relieved 90% of the pain! I haven't felt this good in years! I've gained vitality, clarity, hope and concentration. I can't recommend it enough.
EC: So sorry, Hender, that post is 9 years old and Bronwyn is unlikely to see your response. Perhaps someone else on Earth Clinic can recommend a good brand. We know you asked for Bill but he too is unavailable as of late.
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I wand to reply to this post just to enlighten folks around the potency and viability factors around fulvic. Our most commonly asked question about pure fulvic acid isolate...Question: Does not say the strength of the product percent of fulvic acid. There are a lot of products online that have very little fulvic acid in them. Does the potency matter? Earth Pharm's Answer: Our fulvic is a pure isolate. As there is no industry standardized testing method it is impossible to compare apples to apples. Suppliers who sell solely on concentration are taking advantage of customers who are unaware of the quantitative issues with fulvic. Many tests have limited refinement steps and favor polluted products. Our source supports the International Humic Substance Society adopted USGS/IHSS classical method . This is not the best extraction method, but the best for isolation and testing because it has the most refinement steps. However, because it produces the lowest fulvic numbers, and has the potential to expose unrefined products, it has yet to be adopted industry wide. It's also important to note that source and manufacturing methods make the most difference when it comes to product quality. If the concentration is high, but has been denatured by the extraction process or polluted with toxic minerals like mercury and lead, then it's of little value to your body. To our knowledge, our product is the only one on the market that provides actual fulvic acid content based on the newly approved test method for fulvic acid developed by the Humic Product Trade Association.The fulvic acid level is tested by the only accredited method which has just been approved this year by the International Humic Substances Society the Humic Product Trade association. Any other method is not valid and can not detect fraudulent products the new IHHS method can by using Hi Tech separation method. The new approved valid method uses a dialysis resin to test the fulvic because this duplicates the action of the kidneys, if it can pass through the kidneys then it will make it into the cell of your body instead of just being excreted in the urine. This is the key to the availability of fulvic acid called molecular weight if it can not pass through the test bed resin it has no biological value for plants or animals. This method prevents fraud and gives the only approved and valid method of testing the value and amount of bioactive fulvic acid. A word from our processing partners: “We really can't concentrate the product more than the current concentration because if it is too concentrated it “clumps” and will not enter the cell as well, you can not see the clumping with the naked eye it is on molecular level.”
With that said, it would be a disservice to our consumers to concentrate the product more as it will start to diminish the viability of the product on a molecular level making it have less open binding receptors. Find our Fulvic and answers to any questions at https://www.superimmune.org
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Thank you for sharing your story/ Can you please tell what product exactly you are using? I have ordered the 350×concentrate... So that didn't do anything? Thanks! Maria
Where to Buy: Mexico City
Any ideas where to buy granulated humic acid / fulvic acid in Mexico City?
Never use fulvic acid in anything but glass or metal containers. Don't even drink it out of a plastic cup. It is a powerful chelator and will start to break down anything but glass or metal which upon drinking you will take into your body. Do not take with chlorinated water because of chemical reactions creating harmful by products. Do not take in dairy such as milk because it's an acid and it will curdle the milk.
I would like to hear where this information that fulvic acid should not be in contact with plastic originate? Have you read it from other vendors site or is there some proof for that claim? I am asking this because have read a controversial statement from here. I don't know which is correct so would like to know if you have some evidence that plastic is not a good option.
I would like more info on Fulvic Acid. I purchased some from the U.S. (source is China). I have Lyme Disease and Celiac/lots of food allergies/digestive issues. Is Fulvic acid something that will aid those issues? I also need help with dosage, etc. from someone with a good history using it. And can it be toxic at all? thanks so much!