MSM Health Benefits and Side Effects

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Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 07/02/2011

Hi everyone, I just wanted to bring attention to a book I just read called "The Miracle of MSM" I used to take msm on a very regular basis and had amazing results w/ it but as I'm sure many of you also have experienced, we tend to put things aside and move onto other remedies. Well, recently I started taking msm again and it's been helping my physical pain. Then I picked this book up and was amazed by what I learned. Not only did I learn what it can do but it also did myth busting. I would encourage people to read it as it had amazing stories about tooth pain, arthritis, lichen planus, interstitial cystitis- many issues that people write in about in this forum.

Francisca, I know what a book person you are as am I so I thought of you as I read it. Have you read it at all? Anyway, just a thought!

Replied by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France

Hi Lisa, actually I have read The Miracle of MSM and also The Power of MSM. I would swear that I posted the review on the book review page.... No idea what happened! They are both very good. Too bad that MSM didn't quite work for me, not alone and not with Condroitin and Glucosamin. The thing is also that here in Europe it is very expensive to take MSM so maybe I should have been on a higher dose, I don't know! In the USA MSM seems to be quite cheap. I think that it is great to get advice here but by reading a book you get a lot more in depth information which is not possible to give here. Yes, I am very much a book person and I have to say that I have learnt so much because of them....

Replied by Bibs
Blagoevgrad, Bulgaria

Hi, try to order it from I take the dr Best MSM. It is not very cheap for me, but the ordering is like a child's game and the delivery is very fast. Hope that hepled :)

Posted by Jerroll (Humble, Tx Usa) on 12/23/2010

I'd like to ask Ted if using MSM in a nebulizer would help COPD? DMSO stinks, also if putting MSM in a spray bottle and breathing deeply like Bill does with H2O2 would work?

Replied by Noimplant4me
Anchorage, Alaska, United States

I'll tell you what what worked for me... First and foremost I prayed to Jesus Christ for mercy and healing. The I got the idea of mixing a teaspoon of sea salt with a few ounces of warm

water and putting that in the nebulizer. I figured if it could eat the tar of roads, and go through paint, then it can certainly clean my lungs, plus salt is a great killer of infection etc.

So...I did. It will make you cough a little at first, and maybe even feel a little restricted in the lungs, but it passes rather quickly, and when it does... you are breathing much much least I was. Also high doses of omega 3's are exceedingly helpful to aid in easier breathing and possibly heal copd... My opinion. I buy Twinlab Cod Liver Oil in a 12oz bottle and take 1or 2 fat tablespoons full a day.... not so much now as I do not much need it that often anymore. I also have begun supplementing with Hemp Oil, which is also fantastic and full of Omegas. Yet it does not have the high doses of vitamin a and d like cod liver. Get the plain..not the flavored as the plain is much more potent. Magnesium citrate and b-50 multi is helpful also.

Now for something I will tell you works and works well and fast to open up and clean the lungs is NAC... N, Acetyl Cysteine. That stuff is fantastic. I recommend you order from Swanson Vitamins... Highest quality, best prices anywhere. Plus use the coupon code SWAN199 to get shipping for $1.99. Prayed for you and will again. Daniel

Posted by Newagewoes (Melborne, Florida) on 10/26/2010

I have a whole bottle of Technical Use Sulfur powder I would like to add some , like a tsp to my body wash at bath time but not sure if it's safe to mix them and how much to use if it's safe ?

Posted by Hardlymoving (Union, Nj, Usa) on 10/15/2010

I've been using MSM for several years and it works. First started with DMSO but my wife and friends couldn't take the Sulphur smell. Switched to MSM to 2 tablespoons a day and got ALL the symptoms of detox; headaches, change in heart rhythm, extreme fatigue, etc. Didn't panic and lowered the dosage. All the problems gradually disappeared. I take 2 tablespoons in powder form with powered Vit C first thing in the morning with around 16 oz of water. Then my bladder get's filled every 20 minutes... Constantly urinating clear. By late morning everything's good.

Replied by Bon
Victoria, Bc

How long does detox symptoms last? My mom takes 1 tsp one in the morning and one at night. She got so tired to walk or eat some times.

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Hi Bon,

My powdered MSM says to take 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon with 8 oz juice or water, with 1/4 teaspoon equalling 1 gram, in divided doses up to 4 grams/day. If what your Mother is taking is similar to that, she would be taking 8 grams/day (8000 mg). I wonder if she would feel better if she reduced her dosage and only took the 1/4 - 1/2 teas. at a time, twice a day?

Replied by Bon
Victoria, Bc

I asked my mom to stop MSM for a week to see if the symptoms are related to MSM. For the past 2 days, she seems less tired. I will ask her to try to cut back to 1/2 tsp twice a day to see if it's any better. Thanks for asking. Do you have any detox symptoms?

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh

Hi Bon,

I have been taking 1/4 teaspoon, twice a day, or 2grams. I have not noticed any difference, good or bad, at this dose. I am assuming it is creating favorable conditions in my body, based of the suggestions and comments from Earth Clinic posters. I'm happy to hear your Mother may be feeling better.

Posted by Gina (Alexander City, Alabama, Usa) on 07/22/2010

I've been studying a lot about sulfur and can find no comparison's on the effects of MSM vs Sodium Thiosulphate. I would like to know if one is more useful than the other, if they can be used similary or if one is actually better than the other. My main research is involved in decalcification of the body system which I believe is the key to recovery from many different diseases, especially when combined with magnesium.

Replied by Lisa
Lafayette, La

Gina, I corresponded with a doctor a few months back via email about things like calcification (he brought it up, it wasn't part of MY vocabulary! ) of the body, particularly the heart valve, as in mitral valve prolapse, which drs. diagnosed my husband with. He recommended IP-6, I think the technical name is inositol hexaphosphate. He said it will decalcify the heart valve, which is what causes mitral valve prolapse. I am sure it will do the same for whatever body part you are concerned with. Hubby also takes 600mg. Mag, 2000 mg. Ip-6,200 mg. K2, 2000 mg. D-3, quercetin, milk thistle, co-q-10, and l-carnitine. He is now palpitation FREE, and symptom free, as long as he stays clear of caffeine, and doesn't overdo the sugar. Hope this helps!

Posted by Jackie (Northern Ireland, Ireland) on 06/11/2010

i am intolerant to several foods and food-additives as a result i suffer with migraine. previoulsy i tried milk thistle drops, but could not take them as they triggered migraine, but when i changed to tablets i was ok.

because of this i want to know if MSM comes in different forms, tablets, powder, capsules, liquid etc. and which one would be least likely to cause me headaches.

also how much msm should i take, and how many times a day should i take it and how many days/weeks/months would you recommend i take it for.

i am female (51) and have suffered with migraine since my mid twenties.

many thanks, jackie

Replied by Alfred
Bangkok, Thailand

Jackie.. those migraines a pain.. Just take Apple Cider Vinegar.. migraines gone forever. your country pet place Waterford.

I Care

Replied by Karen
Sydney, Nsw
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Hi Jackie.. I have really bad knees which seemed to be getting worse each week... I bought MSM on ebay here in Australia.. 400 gms and the cost was $20 for the MSM and $5 to send... I started on one teaspoon a day and have increased it to 2 teaspoons a day in orange juice, ( one teaspoon in each glass)... I wouldn't be able to walk if I hadn't started on MSM , as the pain was so severe.. I read the powder form is much bettr than the tablets as the tablets have fillers.. All I know is within one day of taking MSM, the pain was gone... I combine MSM with Castor oil.. The Castor oil I rub into the front and back of my knees.... It is fantastic... Look for the MSM that has some lumpy bits in it.... That way you know it has no fillers... It was the best $25 I've ever spent and the tub should last at least 3 months... All the best on you getting well.

Replied by Elyn
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Usa
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I started on powdered MSM 6 weeks ago for my arthritic knees. Although they still twinge on occasion, they're MUCH better. One additional delight was that the nasty heel spur that I've been suffering with since about Christmas last year-- the pain is GONE!!! I don't understand! My chiropractor said the MSM didn't cure it -- it just is masking the pain and that I need to be taking calcium in addition. The MSM tastes funky at first-- my husband won't touch it. It's an acquired taste but I don't notice it anymore. I highly recommend it.

Replied by Noimplant4me
Anchorage, Alaska, United States

Try a high dosage multi B vitamin, like B Maxi or B-50. Combine this with Magnesium Citrate or Taurate or Glycinate. This should help reduce anxiety and stess. Your whole body needs magnesium to function properly... Especially your heart and brain. Taking Cod Liver Oil is also greatly beneficial. I recommend Twinlab in a bottle.. Unflavored. Available at Swanson, Vitacost and Amazon. Best bet.. Get them all from Swanson and use coupon code SWAN199 for $1.99 shipping. High doses of b-6 and b-12 are the crucial ones as far a b vitamins are concerned.


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Posted by Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 07/06/2015
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Another way to take MSM is to mix a strong batch in a jar and add some of the strong solution to whatever water you drink throughout the day. I've been doing that a couple of days after doing a 5g dose and not sleeping well for a couple of days. I didn't take any for a few days and then started with the smaller amounts in my water. Enough to make the water taste really good but not enough to leave that "smoky" taste in my mouth. I can't really say what the amount is - it's just a "taste good" amount.

I'm going to do that for a while and then alternate between MSM water and ascorbic acid water. Just to see what happens.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

Tried some water with no MSM in it for the first time in a couple of days and it tasted really...blah. As a huge fan of drinking plain water, I'm wondering if water with this small amount of MSM qualifies as "plain water". Of course, even filtered water isn't actually "plain"...

It sure tastes good so I guess I'll see what happens.

Other than just feeling good and not grabbing a snack every time I walk through the kitchen, I've experienced no symptoms of toxin release or die off. Everything's in working order.

Actually, the not snacking may be a symptom of toxin release, as I used a sort of diet pill when I was both working and going to school full time - WAY back when. So we'll see if the "not snacking" continues. On the other hand, I'm not actually skipping meals, so...I don't know. It's interesting. I wouldn't even notice the good feeling or the not snacking if I wasn't specifically noting changes. It's not like I've stopped eating or I'm feeling euphoric or anything dramatic. I always feel good but I just feel sort of extra good and I'm not craving sugar or salt (snacks) which, actually, might be why I feel extra good but I COULD eat a scoop of ice cream or some chips and salsa, no problem - I just don't crave them.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

Again, it may be because of the flushing of old toxins, but noticed a change in the fit of my clothes and I've lost about 10 lbs...but...where did it GO, is the question.

Also have a rash on my chest that I thought was a regular heat rash, which I usually wash with coconut oil and powder and disappears but this one isn't disappearing. MSM lotion stopped the itch but the skin's still bumpy so - some kind of cleansing rash, I'm assuming.

It occurs to me that my feet are extra sweaty and I forgot I'm using MSM lotion on them - after showering and a couple of times between showers I cleaned them with coconut oil and applied more lotion, due to the sweat. I forgot that the lotion I'm using is MSM lotion. All of my skin is much softer. I would not have classified it as "dry", but, compared to how it feels now, it obviously was.

I've only been using the MSM lotion on my hands and feet. My hands are not sweaty but they are definitely not dry which, again, I wouldn't have classified them as "dry" before now but, comparatively, they must have been.

Could explain where the weight went. Just double the amount of sweat from the foot would be like an extra pound and my feet are sweating more than that. On average, one sweats about 2 lbs per day (1 quart) which can go up to that much per HOUR when one is actively sweating.

This would actually explain why MSM feels so good, initially, AND why symptoms return so quickly when one stops taking MSM - a flush of hydration, initially, and dehydration when stopped.

I will up my water intake to compensate. See what happens.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

Increased water intake and had some sea salt to compensate for the sweating feet and weight is back up so was definitely acutely dehydrated.

Skipped MSM for a day and felt a bit depressed, which is weird. Or maybe not depressed...I'm not sure. I don't get depressed so I'm not 100% sure what it's like but my mind was definitely attracted to the "less than fun" aspects of life and every little "problem" seemed bleak and blown all out of proportion.

Still have the rash and it has spread a bit. The bumps are flattened out but it's more itchy.

Hair seems super soft and more..."flexible" or something.

Still only taking the MSM as "good tasting water".

Might try some aloe with MSM for the itching.

Back to my happy self - very interesting.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

I set out some MSM water for the dogs. I set it next to their regular water and they drank it down.

Second day, they didn't drink any but drank a lot of plain water.

Third day, same. No MSM water but plain water though not as much as the day before.

Fourth day (today) they're drinking some MSM but not as much as the first day.

Both dogs seem to be doing the same thing but they're not drinking together. Just consuming and abstaining at about the same intervals.

Same water I'm drinking - with just enough MSM to make it taste good.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

Had some pain in the kidney area so refrained from drinking MSM water. Had some organic lemon aid and a couple swigs of olive oil.

It didn't really register in my mind until the pain, but initially I hadn't been urinating as much and the urine was darker than usual then, yesterday, I was going a lot and it was lighter. Anyway, with the discomfort, I'm assuming kidney stones.

I had gallstones a few years ago and after that cleared up I got in the habit of drinking organic raspberry lemonade but they quit carrying it a while back and I forgot all about it. Anyway, it makes sense with all of the flushing that there might be stones and this time it appears to be kidney stones, so, there's that.

They still carry the organic lemonade so I'll use that. It's not as yummy as the raspberry lemonade, but it's still pretty darn good!

Back to MSM water tomorrow and I guess I'll be drinking some lemonade, too, and flush out whatever stones there might be with a swig of olive oil every now and then.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

A couple of thoughts regarding MSM and kidney stones:

It stands to reason that MSM, in opening cell walls, would flush loose any crystals that are attached to the walls of the renal system.

It also stands to reason that as the cell walls close up, trapping toxins inside, that the crystals COULD attach themselves and grow in the first place. Otherwise, the urinary salts would be suspended in the urine and flush themselves out.

Might not be a bad idea to add lemonade or the "lemon and olive oil" treatment for kidney and gall stones while you're taking MSM - or before you start.

The stones are no big deal as they're easily dealt with, but they can be uncomfortable and create various urinary symptoms that would tempt one to seek out harsh and dangerous "medical" remedies.

Also, vitamin C - ascorbic acid - would break down the crystallized organic matter that holds the stones together causing pieces to detach and creating discomfort that way. So, the occasional dose of olive oil or regular drinking of lemonade or limeade (even more acidic than lemon) in general is just a good idea, regardless - to keep the urinary salts in solution to facilitate natural flushing. Of course, the MSM would prevent them from attaching to the walls and growing in the first place but if they're already there, it's probably best to break them up as they can be extremely painful.

Just a thought.

Replied by Jacqui

How would any oil help your kidney's? Any oils are dealt with by your liver and bile, then absorbed by the small intestine - they are long gone as oil before the blood gets near the kidney. I eat a quite high fat diet, but have NEVER noticed any oil slick in my urine, and would be very concerned if I had.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa

If you have kidney stones, then you're dehydrated and one effect of dehydration is oil in the urine. So, in a way, it's the illness itself that allows the cure.

Olive oil has special properties that make it different from other oils to begin with, and it is only now being studied more closely to identify those differences.

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Posted by Darlene (Downey, Ca) on 07/24/2014
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MSM worked great for my daughter's asthma. She's doing awesome and no more inhalers. Amazing stuff. I use MSM for my allergies.

Posted by Babs (Washington Dc) on 06/15/2011
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I've been taking MSM for 6 weeks and I am very pleased with the results. My bones were squeaking like an old machine :) Not any more.

Replied by Ashley
Los Angeles, California Usa
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Regarding MSM, I just wanted to warn people that I have had adverse affects with it. I started taking it for joint pain (2 to 4 thousand milligrams a day) and it seemed like it was healing, until about 30 days in one of my knees started to hurt. I thought I may have just injured it slightly and didn't think anything of it. Then maybe another week and a half in my other knee (that never had any pain prior) and both my shoulders started hurting. MSM was the only thing that I had never done before that I was doing differently. I quit taking it and about a week later all of the pain was gone. I also just injured my right knee and have to question whether or not this actually made my joints worse.

Replied by Anne
Vancouver, Bc

I had been suffering with horrible muscle pains for a few years. So I started to read on what would help this pain. I started to take MSM and the pain I endured was worse but then.. read on to find out what happened.

MSM can and will reawaken your previous injuries. When I first started taking MSM I was in horrible pain.. So I stopped taking it and the pain went a way. Then I read that MSM detoxifies the body and will reawaken old injuries.. That you need to keep taking the MSM until the pain is gone (usually 2-3 weeks) So I started to take MSM again and the same pain returned. I had a horrible two weeks. After that the pain was less and less. That moment when I woke up and there was no pain at all I was in disbelief, as I was told by my Doctor's I would always suffered pain.. So I say.. If this causes pain, it means its cleaning out your system so drink lots of water while you are taking it and know that it's getting rid of that pain for good. :) A usual dose to start is one three times a day.. Work up to two three times a day. Of 1000mg each. Best of Luck all

Replied by Jean
Atlanta, Ga
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Ann, Can you or anyone else offer a little more reassurance about the side effects of MSM? I started using it in the powdered form about a week ago. The label suggested 1/2 tsp. In 8 oz. of water. After about 2 days I noticed a mild rash on my arms and stomach. By day 4 the mild rash became severe and also spread to my thighs and backs.

It's late spring and I first suspected flea bites, but our pets have been treated and my husband had none of these little red marks. After racking my brains I realized the only new thing I'd introduced into my diet or environment was the MSM. On day 5, I stopped the MSM and the marks on my back largely went away. Those on my thighs and stomach persisted; perhaps they shrank slightly.

To test MSM as the culprit, on day 6 I took the merest pinch of it -- an 1/8 of a tsp, if that. Within an hour, the rash on my legs and stomach intensified. It spread to my chest area for the first time. Additionally, on two spots of my stomach, the redness resembled hives more than a rash. Whether as rash or hives, btw, it itches!

I'm 49 years old, was diagnosed as hyperthyroid three years ago, and have been slowly healing myself through diet and vitamins, acupuncture and meditation. I've been off the methimazole for months and returned to my customary weight (about 10 lbs over the normal range) about a year ago. I'm perimenopausal, so my hormone levels are undoubtedly fluctuating, and what bugs me the most, health-wise, is my on-going fatigue and hand/wrist numbness (I call it carpal tunnel, which is commonly associated with thyroid problems, but I've never seen a neurologist to have it formally diagnosed. You know--money issues.)

In short, I'd love to reap the benefits that MSM seems to promise most people here on Earth Clinic, but the intensity of the rash has me worried. I've never had a skin condition before, so to be wearing a rash for a week, so to speak, is a little creepy. Others have talked about cutting back on the dosage, but to cut back on the miniscule amount of a pinch is to eliminate it entirely.

I bought what seems to be a good quality form of the powder. The brand label asserts no wheat, dairy, gluten, sugar, yeast, etc. , I. E. , it claims to be hypoallergenic and suitable for vegetarians. I bought it from a reputable grocery chain.

So...suggestions, reassurances, tales of similar experiences from braver pioneers than me, anyone?

Thanks in advance for any help provided!

Replied by Miserable_in_bama
Oneonta, Alabama, United States

I take it 2x a day and never experienced any problems. Sounds like you are allergic to it. If you want to try it again, buy another brand, and maybe lower your dosage. It's one of those things our bodies need but can't store, just like vitamin C, so doubtful you are allergic, you get it from a lot of foods you eat. It's a real basic form of sulphur that comes from the ocean if I remember right.

Replied by Bschuttp
Livermore, Ca
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I have been taking MSM for over a year now and had some symptoms of rash(not as bad as what you describe) and hardening of my lymph glands and ducts when I started taking it. It is a side effect of MSM but is probably due to your system releasing toxins. I lowered dosage and continued taking until symptoms went away and then began increasing dosage. I currently take 24 grams/day split between morning and afternoon(215 lb bodyweight). It has worked well for my asthma, joint swelling, and pain. I was worried I would need another knee surgery but don't think it will be necessary for the time being. Make sure you are buying very pure crystals so you don't have other fillers that could cause problems.

Replied by Oxygenman
Jackson, Mi
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There are no known side effects from msm!!!!!!!!! Whoever is saying this is lying. Karl loren of as a patent on msm from the only company that makes msm, which is made or derived from dmso, these are ways of getting oxygen in the body. I have been taking it for 3yrs now and if you do get a reaction this is a good thing people!!! When you put active oxygen (dmso, msm, 35%hp or ozone) in your body and you have a disease or cancer or any ailment IT WILL STIR UP THE BAD BUGS(ANAEROBIC MICROBES) BECAUSE THESE BUGS CANNOT LIVE IN ACTIVE OXYGEN!!! So dont stop doing what your doing- these are toxins coming out of your body.

Replied by Janell
Spirit Lake, Ia

I've been diagnosed with bursitis in my hips. The MD that came up with that, stuck his thumb roughly into my hip and when I yelped, said: yup you have bursitis.

I knew he was unable to help me, So I started researching. I've found in my reading that you MUST take a pharmacutical grade MSM. I would never take something for animals, I doubt it would be pure enough.

Replied by Gogreen
Madison, Wi

Breaking out in a rash while taking MSM could be a detox effect or it could be an allergic reaction.

I read on another site that if you're allergic to sulfa/sulfur drugs most doctors will tell you not to take MSM because of it's sulfur content. However, you might be able to tolerate sulfur in supplements.

If you want to try it, I'd start at a very low dose and see how you do. I'm very allergic to sulfa drugs and break out in hives, tongue swelling, etc. But the supposed benefits of MSM have me thinking that I might try it.

Replied by Echoe
Omaha, Ne

Hi Jean! Absolutely could be an allergic reaction. If you're allergic to eggs, (which has a high sulfur content) you may well be allergic to MSM. It may also be possible that the MSM is (as people are saying) releasing the toxins as it makes your liver bile function and starts to kick out stored fats and other things in the liver. One way to figure out a little more directly would be to get MSM cream and apply it to the skin in an unnoticeable area FAR from the areas you had your rashes/hives in. If that area develops a rash or hives, you're likely allergic. If it doesn't, it's possibly the reaction of your body beginning to release the toxins that were stored, but which need to be cleared.

Just because it's something that the body needs doesn't mean you're not allergic to it. I'm allergic to cobalt, which is a B12 mineral. My aunt is allergic to vitamin C. Strange things aren't so strange.

Replied by Echoe
Omaha, Ne

Jean, I just came back from reading that people with mercury toxicity are often intolerant to foods high in sulfur as it activates and mobilizes the mercury. No idea whatsoever if this is a possibility for you.

Replied by Cornelis

Biologically and physiologically we are just animals. It SEEMS to be that our only difference is mentally and sometimes I doubt that.

Posted by Dp (New York, Ny, US) on 08/30/2009

Hi, question.... I have severe pain both elbows from too much time on the computer. I'm taking 4 to 8 ibuprofin a day. Read bout MSM and tried it, I heaping teaspoon of the powder in a cup of water. No pain at all that night and into the next day but the pain came back the following day. I did feel a little edgy the day I took it though. So is this a pain reliever or does it do something to repair the damage that is causing the pain?

Replied by Joyce
Joelton, Tn
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For Dp from NY, NY and others wondering about MSM question:

Hello Dp,

When I first learned about MSM from an artcle in Journal of Longevity about 15 or more years ago, I read that one of the doctors treating patients with it had been taking the race horse dose for years to see if any adverse side effects occurred. Supposedly at the
age of 75(at time article was written), he still had a full head of dark hair and was still teaching medicine as well as practicing medicine.

I started off at the race horse dosage myself and continued at that dose. I wasn't aware that it was doing anything until one night I noticed it was raining and my joints that had always warned me that weather change was coming, hadn't warned me! I took MSM daily for several years at the large dosage for race horses.

I have to admit that I have gotten quite lax with it over the last few years, but my knees are giving me twinges now and then. When they do I go back on the large dose daily until I forget I had the problem, and then get slack again.

MSM supposedly has both antiinflammatory properties as well as cell regeneration. You can find a lot of information on line about MSM. There is also a book written by the doctor who wrote the article that let me in on the MSM, and I believe Dr. Jacobs (the one taking racehorse dose for years) co-authored the book on MSM. You should be able to find it in any bookstore.

Replied by Mark
Richardson, Tx

Joyce where do you purchase your MSM from?

Replied by Dp
New York, New York

Need to update my previous post - obviously the MSM did not relieve my elbow pain in one day because it's back. Anyway, still willing to give it a try (I already have the bottle) so I am taking a heaping teaspoon dissolved in a bit of water every morning. No great improvement yet but it's only been a week or so, will update later.

Replied by Joyce
Joelton, Tn
522 posts

Hi Dp,

Larger doses of MSM (1 tablespoon) 3 times a day won't hurt you. Two other things you might want to try also is a tablespoon or more of ACV in water 2 or 3 times per day. You might also soak a cloth (diaper or dishcloth,etc) wrap it around the painful elbow, cover with Saran or clear plastic wrap to contain drips, then wrap with an ace bandage to hold it in place overnight. When you remove it the next morning, you can also try massaging that painful area with some cold pressed castor oil (regular castor oil will do if you can't find the coldpressed). Just remember to wrap that ace bandage loose enough that your circulation isn't altered. If your fingers start numbness or tingling, just undo and rewrap looser. You can also check the circulation by compressing a fingernail, which makes it turn pale quickly, but it should pink back up immediately when the pressure on the nail is removed.

Replied by Lee
Franklin, Tn
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Hi /Dp. I live in Tn. Have you thought of a combo of salmon oil two tabs dailly with the combo msm 3 tabs daily / vitamin C/ vit. E 400un/B complex / folic acid for your coctail. Coq10 also works in combo as well for joint pain. One without the others do little to help but as a team approach it may work wonders. Good luck dp Lee from Tn.

Replied by Zsaqwe
Brownsville, Texas, Usa

Hello, my mother had already had surgery in both knees. And was in constant pain. I had pain in my shoulder and got DMSO for it. One day my mother came and I decided to applied DMSO for her knee pain. She was thrilled and amazed that the pain was gone the next day. I did put it in my armpit elbow area with not too much success yet. I still feel something, not pain but something and it goes and comes. I can not tell you DMSO worked for me. But I have applied it two times, still too soon to tell.

My mother cure was more impressive. Oh, well , I am not telling you more about DMSO because you have to google it and educate yourself very well before any attempt to use it. It is great but delicate. Not for incompetent adults. Please educate yourself if you think it may help you.

Replied by Citygirl27
Richardson, Tx, Usa

Mark from Richardson - I got mine from the W*ole F*ods here in Richardson, at Coit and Belt Line. They had it in both 500's and 1000's. I've also seen it online at different vitamin companies' websites.

Replied by Shesgg
Sandusky, Oh

Hi, I just wanted to add to be sure and take 1000 mg vitamin C along with the 2 teaspoons of MSM for arthritis pain or blood sugar/blood pressure. I have had good success with this amount each day. I slowly drink the MSM in about 2 liters of water throughout the day and take the Vitamin C in between there sometime.

Love this stuff, hope it doesn't cause problems down the road with surprising side effects but so far so good.

Posted by Alex (London, England) on 07/05/2009
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

I have just started taking MSM for IC cystitis. I feel an improvement already but have come out in big spots over my head and neck like boils. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this part of the detox? Love to you all Alex

Replied by Kitty44
Bluffton, Sc
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

I'm aware your post was about 3 years ago, but I hope you'll be able to tell me how long the rash lasted, if you continued using MSM. I have a bad, itchy rash and the mfr told me to stop using it, but I've had such good results, I'm reducing to 500 mg to see if I just need to proceed more slowly.

Anxious to hear from you.

Posted by Digger (Brisbane, QLD Australia) on 05/07/2009
5 out of 5 stars

HI THERE I HAVE BEEN USING DMSO AND MSM for about 9 months ..before i started using them. I checked out many many websites and spoke to many people about them far as im concerned its very safe for us....

I have used it on wounds that wouldnt heal properly .i use it on both my feet where i have bone on bone arthritis in both my big toes... also athritic knees and kneck.. believe me when i say i look terrific for my age ..But i have so many aches and pains its not minimises the pain for hours

.I HAVE ALSO PUT IT ON MY TESTICLES AND THE BIG FELLA ..AND my libido is now amazing < i do have a very beautiful 30 yr old girlfriend that helps ..But at my age 65yrs ..I still need all the help i can get.

The msm i drink 2x table spoons a day with a juice ...the DMSO I IETHER APPLY TO WHERE I NEED IT ON MY BODY ..or i will drink about 5mils a day with some kind of sweet drink to mask the taste ,

my skin is glowing with health i look very fit nails and the hair on my head also grows very fast.

it seems that the USA AND AUSTRALIA are the only two countrys in the world that put warning signs all over the packaging ...I believe its absolute nonesense..I cant see any reason for me to stop taking iether of them .

i have also used hydrogen peroxide with good results ..but thats anther story

if any one wants to contact me ..please feel free to do so.

Replied by Sean
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Hi Digger, my name is Sean, just writing to say hello, awesome that the MSM is working for you. Just wondering where you purchased your MSM from. I have some similar symptoms that you experience. Cheers mate, Sean

Replied by Allan
San Fernando, Trinidad And Tobago

This is in a response to 'digger' from QLD in Austraila. He indicated that anyone can get in touch with him but his email address was not posted. I would like to know what is the brand and the strength of the MSM that he used and also the DSMO. You have a fantastic site. I have tried the ACV two teaspoons in a glass of water once or twice a day with a little honey and it has cured my acid reflux. I suffer with COPD and am using some of what have been tried. I will keep on updating the post. Thanks

Replied by Elizabeth
Lakeland, Fl

Yes I would like to know if we can take Horse MSM and does it always have to be taken with citric acid? Thanks liz

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn

HI U ELIZABETH, , , , , , , , , , , , , , yep, we buy our MSM from the farmer's Co-op. It works for us, but you go with your vibes. I think folks that have a million dollar horse are going to do the best for the horse. They buy from the Co OP. Does that not sound logical?


Posted by Kim (Boise, Idaho) on 12/12/2008
5 out of 5 stars

I just found this site and love it. I read all on MSM. I have been using it for over 10 yrs. I first heard of it when my Bullmastiff ripped a musle in his back leg completely in half. He could not use his back leg at all. After about 7-10 days on 1TBS of MSN a day he started using his leg a little at a time. When he began using his leg regularly I then just added a sprinkle to his water eveyday. In about 6months I noticed his eyes had cleared up. He was almost blind when I adopted him.

During this time I read everything I could about MSM and found that it does detox you among other things. If you read anything on detox you will find that it is important to go slow, after years of use of perscription drugs, and loads of other toxins we breath and eat every day it is not suprising to me that so many people had bad reactions. I also noticed that almost every one was still taking perscription drugs as well as MSM. Some of the side effects if not all of them sounded like basic detox results. You must slow down your detox. Your body was telling you it needed more water. Was it tap water? You should have several BM aday your body is purdging things out. If I were havig these side effects I would do more research on detox side effects and how to slow down and treat natually. For instance look at what happens to drug addicts. It can be life threatening! Remember more is not always better and education is the answer. I hope you all find the answers you are looking for.

Another thing to try- If you have a sick dog put MSM in a bowl about a tablespoon. Right next to his food. I use loose not caps. I have done this with healthy animals as well. But every single time the ill dog has lapped it up. I give it to all my animals birds, turtles, snakes, hedgehog, lizard, cat, dog,and tortis. Animals instinctivly know what they need. They have always taken it when offered. Good luck to all of you.

Replied by Janice
Coloma, Mi

Is Kim still out there? I was wondering if MSM would work for a yeast problem my dog has? She is 107 lbs. How much should I give her?

Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 10/14/2008 522 posts
5 out of 5 stars

At the end of August my 59 year old active male relative fractured, I believe it was 3 cervical (neck) vertabrae in an accident. He remembers floating face down in the water and thought he was going to drown before someone turned him over. He said he remembers telling them that he couldn't feel anything at that time. He was airflighted home on the ventilator and went through surgical repair after extensive studies of his injuries. Because of heavy sedation, still on ventilator, and complications of pneumonia communication was very limited, but about the only progress noted during the next two weeks was in trying to wean him off the ventilator, to find that he could do some breathing on his own, but he was still on the ventilator much of the time, however the respiratory rate was set much slower which means that he was doing a lot of breathing on his own (vent doesn't kick in as long as the patient is breathing adequately without it). When moved to rehabilitation, he had some sensory function of upper and lower extremities, very slight motor function of the upper extremities. When asked for prognosis, about the only thing his doctors would tell the family was that the longer he went without regaining use of arms & legs, the less likely that he would ever regain it.

About 2 or 3 weeks after entering rehab, he and his wife decided to restart him on MSM since it had helped his arthritis so much before the accident. Approximately 1 week after restarting MSM, when she carried carried him for walks in his wheelchair, he suddenly started talking about getting what he described as a "total body electrical buzz" everytime the wheelchair hit a bump, which was a new experience for him. He has regained more use of hands and fingers also. We are hoping that continuation of the MSM will awaken the motor function pathways in his spinal cord as it apparently has in the sensory pathways. His need for pain medication decreased after the "total body electrical buzz" began also.

Of course he has also had a lot of prayers sent out by many people which we are sure have made a difference also.

P.S. I googled MSM and found that DMSO is converted into MSM by our bodies and is composed of a methyl group (chemistry lingo) and two other methyl groups they mentioned were folic acid and Bl2. It also said that it is active in regenerating connective tissue. I think I told you about my brother starting what I called CNS twitching, my sister-in-law motioning me into another room and telling me that the oncology doctors at VUH saying it meant metastases to the brain and he didn't have as much chance as a snowball, you know where. After saying bull, I'll be back in a few, I went to the drug store and purchased that methyl group called folic acid to add to his macro vitamin/minerals we already had him on, and got rid of the CNS twitches in a few days. So just maybe old methyl group MSM can also regenerate neuron pathways in the spinal cord too.

Replied by Lynn

Yesterday was the appt with the Neurosurgeon. He said Ronnie's neck is healing good, but that alot of bone still needs to grow at the graft site. That usually takes 4-5 months to complete. He also said that the "electric buzz" feeling that Ronnie has when he hits a bump in the sidewalk, is in fact, the nerve pathways healing, trying to make connections. That is good news, for sure...

EC: The above email was sent to Joyce by her nephew's wife.

Reprinted on Earth Clinic with permission.

Posted by Kim (Sussex, England) on 08/24/2008
5 out of 5 stars

I have taken MSM for years which has helped me with the pain of arthritis. Last year I recommended MSM to an elderly man who drives a tractor who was hunched over when he stood up and seemed to be in pain (though loathe to admit it). I saw him again recently and noticed that he had changed from being bent over to standing fairly straight. I remarked upon this and he said that he was taking MSM every day and that he felt much better.