General Feedback
Hi,
Although I fully endorse getting bicarbonate into the body and increasing the blood level of bicarbonates, I seek clarification about the advice of mixing bicarbonates with acids, eg: citric acid, as I have thought that the result would simply be that the alkalising bicarbonates would be removed as CO2.
For example: Sodium Bicarbonate mixed with Citric Acid
3NaHCO3 C6H8O7 --> C6H5Na3O7 3CO2 3H2O
(sodium bicarbonate) (citric acid) --> (sodium citrate) (carbon dioxide) (water)
So the way I see it, if mixed in a glass prior to drinking, it would result in just sodium citrate entering the body. Similarly, what would happen if just sodium bicarbonate and water were taken? Once it hits the stomach acids, wouldn't the resulting CO2 just result in the bicarbonates being removed, probably in a bit of a belch?
What would therefore be the ideal way of getting bicarbonates into the system for increasing ph and for lactic acid buffering?
Thanks in advance for any insights
General Feedback
This is actually a question, not a comment. Someone online here said, "Due to my corn allergy I had to pull out the baking powder and do the baking soda/apple cider vinegar substitution... also had to skip the honey, good news is - I just don't think you can mess this one up." I'm sorry, but I don't have any idea who it was that said this. My question is: I too am trying to eliminate baking powder completely from all my bread recipes and elsewhere, as I am allergic to both corn and wheat. This person did not say how she used the baking soda/apple cider vinegar substitution in place of baking powder. If she or anyone who remembers or knows could post this information for me, I would be very grateful indeed.
Also, I did find something about using either cornstarch and baking soda or cornstarch, baking soda, and arrowroot as a substitute for baking powder, but I did not find either one of these satisfactory. They seemed to me to just not work out satisfactorily at all and, in addition, arrowroot is really expensive to buy - certainly enough to break my budget.
EC: Did you search kitchen sites, like these?
http://www.cdkitchen.com/features/tip/253/Baking-powder-substitute
http://www.thatsmyhome.com/recipes/food-substitutions.htm
General Feedback
For those who are trying to cut back on soduim, there are 821-980 mg "soduim" in one teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda. and sorry for my english.
General Feedback
I wanted to express my glee at the brand new TIDE laundry detergent product change...after all these years!!! Tonight, August 21, 2007, I saw a TIDE commercial announcing the change in their product with the addition of, Ta Da, BAKING SODA...the packaging is cream color not RED! They have also added Aloe Vera to their Rinse Product! Well, well. big business is actually admitting that the Earth Has what it needs. This could be the beginning of another shift...or change in the TIDE!
Gout
My daughter just called me to confirm that in 12 hours, 1 tsp. of baking soda to a 1/4 cup of water REMOVED (completely) horrible gout pain... So bad they "wanted to cut their foot off" last night. She said she probably put too little of water in the mix, but it worked for them. Shocked, they said there was NO PAIN this morning. Not sure if it took away the pain last night but I think so! I just sent her the link on gout remedies and ACV! That's the one that is really supposed to work. Thank you for this website.
Gout
After suffering with acute pain in my right big toe for one year i heard about this site and what baking soda can do. I took half teaspoon in a glass of water and the pain disappeared in minutes! Previously i couldnt even stand the weight of the sheet on my toe. I am yet to try acv and b.soda. but will do so and report back. have also been suffering from a lot of joint pain and that is subsiding also. I am very grateful for the info on this site. I received no help from doctors who only prescribe dangerous drugs! L.Wilson NZ.
Gout, Fibromyalgia Pain
I had gout in 2005 lasted 6 weeks before I went to the Dr. he said it was gout. Wrote me a script. NOT MUCH was on the internet back then about home remedies. On a DEEP DIVE I saw someone charging for a cure. I kept searching and found it FREE!
Backing soda and water. YES!! FOR ME in 3 days of twice a day, 1 level teaspoon in water morning and late afternoon fixed 6 weeks of horrible pain in 3 days!!
Another time few years ago pre KETO way of life I was suffering from horrible Fibro pain, worse EVER! Finally went to the Dr she said its my new normal. I said NO WAY, I will surely die!! SO going home defeated, I remembered the gout pain years before. I realize after searching you can get gout everywhere. SO I tried my home remedy. THIS TIME it took a little over a week of 2 a day baking soda and water. IT WORKED THANK GOD!!
I then started Keto way of life, I don't care what anyone says, for me gout is from lots of carbs, like starches and sugars and grains. Since being KETO I do fall off the wagon sometimes but over all my body fibro and CFS issues are WAY BETTER FOR ME! GODSPEED everyone.
Gum Disease
I have braces which means food gets trapped really easily but it is difficult to floss. As a result I have inflammed gums, which often bleed, despite brushing after every meal. Now I use a HUGE scoop of baking soda in a sip of water (so its like a runny paste) and swished it around in my mouth for a couple of minutes. My swollen gums went back to normal imediatly after and have stopped bleeding. It leaves a salty taste in my mouth but I avoid rinsing after the baking soda.
(Valencia, California, USA)
05/16/2009
Hair
Baking soda or Bicarb which it is called here...is fantastic to wash hair with I use 1/4 cup of bicarb mixed with a cup of warm water in the shower and just tip onto my hair and rub for just a couple of seconds...then rinse...its amazing when it dries its like ive used shampoo... soft and bouncy if hair is a tad dry at times...iI just add a very small amount of organic conditioner to the ends ..and yes I use organic cold pressed coconut oil for a monthly deep condition...
(Sofa, Bulgaria)
07/16/2008
(Swansea, Wales, Uk)
10/22/2010
I use bicarbonate (baking) of soda to wash my hair - just about a level teaspoonful in a little warm water and stirred well. I pour it over and then give it a good rub before rinsing off. I then pour over half a cup of warm water with a dribble of ACV in it, make sure it has covered my hair and been rubbed in and re-rinse to finish. Some people just pour over the ACV but I prefer to give it an extra rinse because I am not that keen on smelling like a chip shop!!! The bicarb cleans my hair and the ACV makes it beautifully soft.
Heartburn
Every time I get heartburn I always put a teaspoon of baking soda in about 3 ounces of warm water and chug it down. Gets rid of it every time. My grandmother taught me this.
High Blood Pressure
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I recently stopped taking baking soda (1/4 tsp) daily and a tblsp of black strap molasses and I feel great!! In the last 2 years that I had taken both faithfully my blood pressure rose with each Dr. visit and I hadn't done anything different. I recently had blood work done and my iron level (i'm assuming came from the bsm) was very high. I took every word on the baking soda as being so good for you but I tend to think differently now. Not all bodies are the same and I really think it caused my bp to go up. i'm not a salt eater so it wasn't the sodium I took in other wise. be careful with all natural remedies. every now and then I will drink 1/4 tsp of bs. I do drink a squeezed lemon daily and have not had any problems.
High Blood Pressure
Baking soda and high blood pressure
Hi I too am a fan of EC and find everything so very interesting,I would like to ask whether someone who has high blood pressure due to (apparently) Chronic kidney disease should take the baking soda remedy as baking soda has salt in it (Am I right?) I have read much about baking soda being so good for people with kidney problems, but the blood pressure worries me, would appreciate some good and sound advice and dosage.
Thanks very much
(Smithfield, Pa)
05/05/2012
Caution is advised. It is recommended to check with your personal physician.
Some [if not most] folks with hypertension are not salt sensitive and may not experience any ill effects. I have also read that even those who are salt sensitive only experience a mild degree of difference in blood pressure readings if they don't restrict salt.
My wife has systolic hypertension and salt seems to make very little difference to her so she does salt her food but we eat no refined or processed foods like chips so get very little salt otherwise in our diets.
(Richardson, Tx, Usa)
06/03/2012
Nevadasmith from PA: That is a great observation. I truly believe that salt is not a culprit with the widespread hypertension there is everywhere. My take on it is it is something else in the salted foods, such as MSG or something else resulting in excessive glutamate. For salt, just be sure you are using "Iodized" salt, so you get the benefit of the iodine when you do use it. If we all insisted on and only bought iodized salt, that is all that would be in stores! Reclaim our iodine (and pineal function) that was taken away when mfr's swapped iodine for bromine in the 70's. Ted/EC has several threads on iodine.
Only recently I had my first case of hypertension crises and "sodium" was definitely a major culprit. Suffering from chronic toxicity of various sources for many yrs and very much disabled I reached a healing crises and required additional buffering w/ sea salt and baking soda (orally) and eventually mineral baths were necessary as my body was depleted in minerals. My BP continued to escalate thru March 2012. I had only slightly reduce dietary sodium to this point and had switched from commercial iodized salt to sea salt as well as Himalayan pink salt autumn 2011. As my crisis worsened I took a DGL/Allantoin dose before rising one day w/ noticeable improvement through the day. The following night I had a batch of air-popped corn w/ the usual butter seasoning and for supper half can of Salmon and WHAM I went down. I suffered thru the weekend and wound up in ER Monday morning w/ reading of 210/135 and feeling very ill. Fortunately 10mg Lisonopril worked wonders (accept for the kidneys of which D-Mannose helped significantly).
So, for me, dietary sodium was definitely a culprit and the Kidneys seem the most affected organ. As for Iodine, there is now on the shelf's of grocers "Iodized" Sea Salt so we don't neglect our precious thyroid. As for natural Iodine supplemental Kelp is as inexpensive as any herb on the market so it only makes sense to take Kelp. Also for everyone suffering from Hypertension it is also recommended to provide natural support for the Kidneys as they are a major factor in determining blood pressure.
High Cholesterol, High Blood Pressure
All Baking Powder now is aluminum free. Baking soda is also a remedy for high blood pressure and cholesterol. Cholesterol is caused by inflammation which causes all our problems like arthritis, Gout, fibromyalgia, Cancer and on and on. The inflammation gets into the wall of the artery and starts to wear it thin so the Cholesterol does as it is supposed to by rushing in to repair it by building it up again. If the inflammation stays in there, then the cholesterol over compensates and then can become a blockage but it is all about inflammation.
High blood pressure is the same, raised by having too much inflammation in the body. No B.S. will not raise the blood pressure because it says sodium on it. Your body (kidneys) already makes the (sodium bicarbonate) Baking Soda but as we age or some bodies in general quit making enough of it to keep us healthy with a good PH level in our blood. I used to be on all the meds. and after taking this and apple Cider vinegar (organic) I went back to my Doctor and he could not believe I was the same person. He took me off high blood pressue and the Cholesterol pills. I have never felt better. These products are amazing God given. Your body was meant to heal itself if you give it the right things. As you start this check your blood pressure daily and see your Doctor before quiting your medication as I am NOT a Doctor but this has worked wonders for me.
(Canada)
05/03/2015
(Or)
09/25/2015
Thank you Miles from (Canada) I have very high Cholesterol, so how much Apple Cider Vineger and how much Baking Soda per day?
This information would be greatly appreciated.
(Alberta)
06/19/2016
(Georgia)
06/20/2016
How would one take potash for HBP?
Kidneys
An interesting article by author Mark Sircus, A.C., O.M.D. in his latest e-newsletter on baking soda for kidney disease:
http://www.imva.info/news/sodium-bicarbonate-kidney-disease.html
To sign up for his e-newsletters: http://www.imva.info/mailinglist.shtml
Kidneys
Good news for our natural health EC community of practice:
Baking Soda: For Cooking, Cleaning, And Kidney Health?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090716201123.htm
ScienceDaily (July 17, 2009) "A daily dose of sodium bicarbonate -- baking soda, already used for baking, cleaning, acid indigestion, sunburn, and more-- slows the decline of kidney function in some patients with advanced chronic kidney disease (CKD), reports an upcoming study in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology (JASN). "This cheap and simple strategy also improves patients' nutritional status, and has the potential of translating into significant economic, quality of life, and clinical outcome benefits," comments Magdi Yaqoob, MD (Royal London Hospital).
The study included 134 patients with advanced CKD and low bicarbonate levels, also called metabolic acidosis. One group received a small daily dose of sodium bicarbonate in tablet form, in addition to their usual care. For this group, the rate of decline in kidney function was greatly reduced--about two-thirds slower than in patients. "In fact, in patients taking sodium bicarbonate, the rate of decline in kidney function was similar to the normal age-related decline," says Yaqoob.
Rapid progression of kidney disease occurred in just nine percent of patients taking sodium bicarbonate, compared to 45 percent of the other group. Patients taking sodium bicarbonate were also less likely to develop end-stage renal disease (ESRD) requiring dialysis.
Patients taking sodium bicarbonate also had improvement in several measures of nutrition. Although their sodium levels went up, this didn't lead to any problems with increased blood pressure.
Low bicarbonate levels are common in patients with CKD and can lead to a wide range of other problems. "This is the first randomized controlled study of its kind," says Yaqoob. "A simple remedy like sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), when used appropriately, can be very effective."
The researchers note some important limitations of their study%uFFFDthere was no placebo group and the researchers were aware of which patients were receiving sodium bicarbonate. "Our results will need validation in a multicenter study," says Yaqoob.
Other authors were Ione de Brito-Ashurst, RD, Mira Varaganum, PhD, and Martin J. Raftery, MD (William Harvey Research Institute and Barts and the London NHS Trust, London). The authors reported no financial disclosures.
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Journal reference:
1.Ione de Brito-Ashurst , Mira Varagunam , Martin J. Raftery , and Muhammad M. Yaqoob. Bicarbonate Supplementation Slows Progression of CKD and Improves Nutritional Status. Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, 2009; DOI: 10.1681/ASN.2008111205
