Natural Solutions for Vaginal Atrophy: Safe & Effective Remedies

Hi Everyone, I'm honestly confused. I see a lot of posts here about DHEA, but is it a natural remedy? My doctor prescribed Estradiol Cream and told me that it is the best choice in treating VA. He also said that the medicine doesn't get absorbed into the bloodstream. I read the same in these threads about DHEA. So is DHEA a real alternative? Is it healthier? How? And what dosage would it be comparable to the Estradiol cream 1%? Do we know how to compare it? I'm a bit reluctant to ask my doctor lol but I will..

I also saw a post about the use of a coconut oil alone and I'm very intrigued by that. That is a 100% healthy solution... if it works. Did anyone else try it? The person who recommended it to me had similar issues (dry, itchy) after giving birth but I think it's probably a bit different from VA.

I appreciate the opportunity to share here and support each other.

Hi Kristine, I just ordered the suppositories and lots of different coconut oil. I bought NOW Solutions, Liquid Coconut Oil on Amazon. It was highly recommended by someone who used it for the same purpose. I also got (just in case) 365 by Whole Foods Market, Organic Refined Coconut Oil on Amazon. I'm not sure myself what the difference is between cold-pressed or expeller-pressed, refined or unrefined but the above is what I was recommended. I also do have cold-pressed unrefined at home... They are all very inexpensive.

I guess, I was just wondering if you were recommended to get the cold-pressed unrefined or refined? Did you try any other type of coconut oil as I described? Are you still happy with the results?

Hi, I stumbled across this thread while trying to sort out my adrenal issues but also suffer from VA so I am well pleased!

Just wondering if anyone knows whether the DHEA would have an effect on the rest of the body if it's applied vaginally?

Thank you for this! I too have been using the Murray Apothecary DHEA supposities for a couple of months now and have noticed a big difference in the VA and the dryness. Previous to that I'd been prescribed Estrace cream (by my doctor), but I couldn't use it due to the Estridiol causing unwanted side effects such as anxiety, bloating and menstral-type cramping. I agree that ordering the compounded DHEA suppositories does become expensive over time, so I'm going to try making my own with the Carlson-E suppositories.

The only *issue* that I've experienced since using the DHEA suppositories is a bit of water weight gain. Not sure if this is a common side-effect with DHEA or not?

Dr Cabeca, maker of vaginal Juvla cream with DHEA has studies to show that DHEA applied that way is limited to local effects, and does not enter your bloodstream. Feel free to google it. I read the reviews and only one person claims to have 'felt' the effect of the cream. I haven't tried the cream, but I am super sensitive to DHEA. A pinch of it, brings up a period, and I'm post-menopausal, so I'd probably feel the effects in my body as well.

I think it is worth noting the details for the Intrarosa product with DHEA for vaginal atrophy, esp. for those with Lichen Sclerosus. I believe it is now available in Canada, not sure about Australia.

http://us.intrarosa.com/

Thank you for your suggestions. I am thinking of trying it.

Mack, I am trying this now, waiting for my DHEA (micronized, 5mg ) to arrive and I have the Carlson's E suppositories, just going to poke a hole in the middle and put 2.5 mg in and see what happens. I am scared, though, as I am ULTRA sensitive to everything, that it will have somewhat of a systemic effect (I'm bipolar, have anxiety, etc.) but I have to do something about this atrophy.

My question to anyone is, I also have vulvar atrophy and had my first UTI, anyone take a little DHEA and rub it onto the vulva and clitoris and have results? I have a vulva cream that is awesome (a mixture of healing oils that has great reviews on Amazon) but does nothing for atrophy of course and I'm thinking of putting a very small amount of the powder into that and rubbing it in, maybe it will help that area also. I don't know if vaginal suppositories will help with vulvar atrophy.

I am excited to try this..In fact, I got so excited that I may have actually booboo myself further. I had intimate relations on sunday and it was painful and left me with a VERY sore vagina in and out. I had used coconut oil before bed with some estrodial cream that I purchased from compounding phar, morn time was no better and actually felt worse:( So I thought maybe it would just get better if I tried to add some DHEA to my estrodial cream. Well I am in so much pain now feels and itching to boot. So, I noticed some of you suggested micronized type and have ordered this but from Pure Encapsulations, because it is free from additives. Now, I just want to be clear that the cubes which I ordered as well are just the basic ones with no estrodial? Also, my vagina is in such sad shape, any ideas to relieve the itching, aching, etc or just suck it up till my goods get here..This is an awesome conversation BTW:)

I tried estriol suppositories and they did not help at all. I'm now trying the DHEA/Carlson suppository approach (2nd day) and will report back. Thank you to all the women on here for posting their experiences!

Hi all, I really would like to order these DHAE cubes but shipping it to Europe is quite expensive. Does anyone know if I can get this anywhere in Europe? I cannot find it on the Internet. I really would be very thankful.

Please forgive my ignorance but what is a Carlson? And could you use dhea cream. I have been in absolute agony for 5 years now. Please advise, many thanks Shirley

Thank you Sandra, I started them last night with the dhea I will update next week. And thank you for posting as this alone will help people in The UK👍⭐️⭐️⭐️

I just found these "conversations" tonight on vaginal atrophy and I am amazed that more physicians aren't aware of this remedy. So many of you have nothing but praise for this solution. After reading all the comments, I have to try your method, Sandra ... just ordered the Carlsons Key E and some 25 mg DHEA capsules online from Amazon.

I can't wait to get my order and start making up my own remedy. Thank you so much sharing your discovery ... I'll keep you posted on my results; and hopefully that will be soon.

This question is to Sandra from the UK. Could you please give me an update on how things are going. I have VA and the skin outside my vagina cuts after intercourse and is very painful. I am taking vagifem and an oral estrogen/progesterone and am suffering with sore breasts and headaches and it's not working very well. I mentioned DHEA to my doctor who said she had never heard of it and dismissed it. Also is it possible to just put the powder in the vagina without using the carlson capsules. How high up should it be put.

Sandra, your information is so helpful, thank you. I have just found this, and so went straight on to Amazon to order both the Carlsons and the Swanson DHEA, but neither of them are on there! I'm guessing they've been stopped for some reason. I will look to see if I can find them anywhere else in the UK (SO frustrating that the simple solution of a DHEA suppository isn't available to us here). In the meantime, if you read this, please would you advise where you are now sourcing them? Many thanks!

Hi Laurie. I bought mine from Healthmonthly.co.uk Swanson 120 capsules 10mg for £4.68. I am just about to give them a go tomorrow. As we do not have the Carlsons I will try the cotton bud method with coconut oil suggested by Tommi.

Hi Sandra

Thanks a lot for your testimony. I also live in the UK and I have the same problem, vaginal atrophy. I am very interested in the mix of Carlsons cube and the dhea 10mg.
Can you tell me if it's still working after a year please? Do you have any side effects? Where can I buy the carlson cubes? Does it also work for the libido? Many thanks for your help.

Where do I get the suppositories?

I JUST STUMBLED ON YOUR COMMENTS FROM 2015 on using dhea cubes for vaginal dryness. I am 62 and have severe dryness and atrophy. I have tried all the Rxs my gynecologist prescribed but sex is painfull to the point that I get cuts or splits after sex. Could you please give me full detail on where you buy and exact name anddosage. How r u doing now. Any side effects. In desperate need. Thanks

Hi Sandra

Thanks so much for your detailed information. I've order what I need and hope to start this in the next week. This conversation was start in 2016 and wonder how you've been going with it since then? Cheers, Sharon

Hi Allyd! I know my comment is coming to you almost a year after you posted but I've just found this thread and am so happy I did. I'm just curious to ask why you decided to start taking DHEA in perimenopause. I just ordered some DHEA micronized caps and after looking at all these comments, they appear to be from women post-menopause. My main symptom at this point is a constant burning sensation that I'm hoping will go away once I start the DHEA capsules. I also feel "thinner" down there already and I'm just 44! I'm hoping being proactive and starting now will help things before they get really bad. How long were you taking them in perimenopause before moving to the larger dose?

Search the internet and you can find and download the actual studies themselves.

The studies clearly show that when used only intravaginally, the DHEA affects blood serum levels of the other hormones either not at all or minimally and within the normal range for post menopausal women. The effect on the other hormones is no where near as strong as if you ingested DHEA or used a cream.

An internet search can find the studies which you can download for free. Here is one of the links, which includes references to some of the other studies: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838010

I know it has been a while but for other readers too, DHEA is a precursor for several hormones.

Please tell me where I can purchase DHEA suppositories.

Actually, if you read the research, the good thing about these is that they do NOT convert into estrogen or testosterone in the blood significantly. I read the the studies so far and the increases in blood levels were minimal, especially at the lower dose of 3.5 mg.

Wondering if anyone else's atrophy was caused by chemotherapy? I was treated with chemo for breast cancer. Now my oncologist reluctantly prescribed Premarin but says it is risky for cancer fuelled by estrogen. I'm 47 & the atrophy is terrible. As if cancer was not bad enough.

Deanna: thank you for your informative guidance...and hope. I am 67 and have suffered from vaginal atrophy for over 5 years. Like you, I find my female Gynocologist absolutely useless. Question: Will the pharmacy in Ohio prescribe the DHEA vaginal suppositories without a doctor's order? I live in Alabama.

Amazon has 5 micronized tabs that just melt in place. I have been using for 2 years and no side effects. I insert in the A.M. no cream necessary. Also have found that by crushing up into a fine powder can put a small amount on vulva for added relief. All that I have read indicates that there is no adsorption into the blood when used topically, so you are not adding to your hormone balance or imbalance.

Deanna,

Could you please list the compounding pharmacy that you found the DHEA suppositories in? I live near Ann Arbor, MI and I don't know how to use these or what mgs but since my hyst the docs have offered NO help. I have lost every bit of my desire & have NO energy at all. And, I am a young woman. Plz can offer info becuz the docs have thrown nothing but meds that do nothing.

I found a compounding pharmacy that makes DHEA 3.25mg suppositories in a solid oil type base.

Thank you, Kate

Kate, I just ordered some bezwecken dhea cubes on line from NaturalNutritionals.com. I guess these cubes are relatively new? anyway, they can easily be inserted, maybe best at night with a pantie liner. I just received mine and am going to first try quartering them, and go from there. I am 67 and have not had sex in almost 15 years b/c of lack of libido and mostly vaginal dryness. It just hurts and takes the fun out of sex. An update from you on what you have tried, if anything, since posting.

Hi Susan: I just received my micronized tablets from Amazon as well, and will start on them tomorrow. Just a quick question for you which may have been answered earlier in this thread - did you go on a maintenance dose after a certain point, or just continue with the 5 mg? What benefits did you see by applying externally as well as just inserting vaginally? I'm so happy to have found this thread.

I understand DHEA vaginal suppositories have yet to be approved by FDA (in third phase trial study). Those who have been using DHEA vaginal suppositories...can you tell me if you have experienced any side effects? Also, where do you purchase them if the product has not been approved?

I found the DHEA B suppositories.. they changed the name and method of use, but it's the same. Here is the page.. if this doesn't come up its from The Natural online.

They have the Dhea cubes, lub cubes.. etc..

http://www.thenaturalonline.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=desc&limit=50&order=bestsellers&q=Bezwecken&x=13&y=7&CAPCID=26692915836&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjw1ZWgBRD-n6ew0oan1xwSJABAbf8ps6SeZLWBPYGTeBtmMZLtXtNEaUGLgfGtPDTCVnq3CBoCtAjw_wcB&CA_6C15C=320012280000660732

I ordered these and just started them, I cut them in Half and inset, will see how it goes and report back.

Patricia, you said you started with half of a 5 mg and it was too strong. How was it affecting you? Just curious because I started using the 5 mg every other day (started last Thursday) and so far so good. I just insert it as is in the morning. It's just so tiny, can't imagine trying to cut it into 1/3 or even 1/2 of a tablet. I understand everyone is different, so that is why I'm wondering how the strength 2.5 mg was effecting you. Thank you!

Dear Marcy,

DHEA is a natural steroid. I do not know much about its use.

There was a post recently on the issue of vaginal dryness/atrophy and Damiana was used. Damiana, according to my book, Nutritional Herbology, is not an estrogenic herb, as say, Black Cohosh and Dong Quai are. It is something I would look into.

Jojoba oil and Magnesium seem like some other possible things to try that are not hormonal in nature.

Hoping others will have more feedback for you about the possibility of DHEA.

~Mama to Many~

Hi, I am having an issue with vaginal atrophy-mainly on the external areas aggravated by urine.

My gyns prescribed estrace and estriol in a hypoallergenic base, but after spending $105 on the compounded estriol, the pharmacy still will not tell me what is in the inactive ingredients. I think its cetyl and stearyl alcohol, vaseline, and mineral oil. I have not felt comfortable with either option,

My gyns prescribe the estrace and estriol in a compounded hypoallergenic base, but it has cetyl and stearyl alcohol. Its also very expensive. $55 for a months supply that has to be refrigerated. Just never liked these options.

Just wondering what your symptoms are and if the gyn did any testing to determine it was va, like a swab test, or just by an exam?

Is sitting also a problem, or does the shower water irritate the area? Does urine also irritate the area near urethra or does it sting? Not like a uti, but the actual skin a few seconds later? Are most of the symptoms internal or external?

Glad the DHEA is working. Where do you buy the DHEA pills and would a gyn prescribe it?? Is it a suppository meant to be used that way, or is it an oral supplement?? Is it inserted in something? Have any of you tried estriol in olive oil drops from Womens International pharmacy?

Have any of you had any success with estriol in an olive oil base drops from womens International pharmacy? Is the DHEA little pill I am reading about made for vaginal use-where do you buy it and is it by prescription.

Have you all tried coconut oil unrefined, organic, I've heard from several ladies this has helped alot and it's not so expensive.

Is the vaginal atrophy affecting your life, like is sitting uncomfortable or the shower water irritate the skin also? The beach water stung like crazy.

For those of you who use DHEA vaginally-does it come with an applicator or do you put it in a Carlson vitamin e suppository?

Any of you used coconut oil or vitamin e oil? These are some alternatives I've heard from the health food store . Thanks, this va is new to me and trying to learn to cope with it and know what has worked.

Thanks, Cathy

Thank you so much for your post. I too was having painful intercourse and uti's. I took your suggestion and bought some dhea at my local pharmacy as well as suppositories. The dhea came only in a 25mg so I quarter it and put it in the suppository. It has worked really well. I can really notice if I miss a few days. It's a bit of a hassle but well worth it. In europe they sell this already made up; I wish we could buy it in the US. The only thing that concerns me is the extra "filler" ingredients in the dhea; I wonder if those could be harmful.

I have suffered from VA off and on for more than 20 years. Reluctantly resorted to vegifem, Premarin, helped some, but, not for long and worried about side effects. Now Osphena is being offered. I know they say it isn't estrogen, but, works like estrogen in the vagina. I am still concerned about the negative effects of too much estrogen. Any thoughts out there on the safety of osphena? I have just started the DHEA hydration cubes. I hoping those do the job instead of main stream drugs. But, is their still a worry about the DHEA converting to estrogen with negative side effects?

Marcy, please look into Nattokinase for your blood clots. This will help greatly for that and many other things as well, such as cleaning up your veins. It is a type of enzyme from a soybean ferment. Any soy in it has been removed although one brand puts it in soy oil so if you are sensitive to soy look at what the other ingredients are.

I have terrible trouble sitting and lying down. I'm only a week into these dhea plus Carlson and have not had much change yet but hoping for some improvement very soon. I just want to sit with comfort. Has anyone else had these problems and did it take the dhea longer to work? Very interested.

Thank you for your post. It is a great help and I appreciate your being very specific about your routine and how this affects you. I am in the process of investigating this problem since it has become unbearable.

I have vaginal atrophy very badly where sex is out of the question. Plus I'm raw and have a discharge. I'd love a follow up as to if this is still working for you since it's now 12/2016. I am wanting to try this system. Already did Premarin and also Vagifem and they did absolutely nothing at all. Thanks Erin

Re: Help Requested for Constant Pain from Vaginal Atrophy

Try 1 Red Clover Capsule 3 times daily. Are you taking any opiate pain killer's at all??? They cause vaginal, anal, and bowel spasms.

I am 68, same problems with dryness, burning, pain during intercourse. I have been prescribed Bezwecken (sp?) E3 suppositories by two different Naturopaths. One supp. per wk after initial week. Nice to know from James that I can find them online, since I just moved and have lost my doctor.

I am interested in the info about Jojoba oil, but my question about that is does it help with just vaginal dryness or all over dryness? The E3's help with both, mostly vaginal dryness and hotflashes. Also with sleep issues.

Also very helpful is using coconut oil (solid form) for lubrication during sex.

I am having trouble finding the Bezwecken E3 vaginal suppositories on line. All my former resources are no longer selling them. Does anyone know why or where I can get them again.

Apparently the E3 by Bezwecken has been discontinued. Very unhappy to hear this...

I have been following the story on the DHEA but have not hear any more on it. I am a nurse of 23 years with vaginal atrophy after a hysterectomy 20 years. As a nurse I can tell you how afraid of hormones I am. But I had to have something due to prolapsed of vaginal vault and bladder or have surgery. I have tried the E3 and thought my heart was going to stop. My chest hurt for days. My breast hurt so bad I could not touch them. Vaginal vault hurt and burned with positive for blood when void. I would like to know if there is any more news with the DHEA. I have got to try something or have the surgery. I have read all on the internet and research papers.

Timh, you mention herbs that are good for hormone balance. What are they?

Dong Quai / Angelica, and Siberian Ginsing / Eleuthero Root.

Timh, have you had any negitive side effect from the DHEA? What I have read make me concern. Some say great hair loss, palpations and anxiety, on and on of course, the benefits are equal. My prolapsed is do lack of hormone to strength the vaginal vault, and no cervix, due to vaginal histerectomy. I an sixty years and I am tired of having surgeries. Not one surgery seams to help just makes another problem. There is a co. (not china )that makes a 5 mg sublingual. My state doesn't compound the DHEA or will not without script. I think I am going to try this. I will break them in fourth. Any advice.

Downs: Most health food stores or pharmacies carry otc DHEA, so yes, start w/ low mg and work your way up. I would recommend also using the herbs I suggested. Rotate from one to the other on a weekly basis while also taking the DHEA.

Also consider Growth Hormone boosting as it could compliment the other recommends and you would increase your chances of a real and lasting benefits. The Amino Acid GABA boost Growth Hormone production as much as 40% (take one grm before retiring). I take the GABA in conjunction w/ YouTube Growth Hormone Release or Pituitary release harmonics. Athletic trainers have discovered that quick burst exercise (also found on YouTube) has dramatic Growth Hormone release. Speaking of hormones, make sure your Thyroid is good. Supplement Iodine.

For those who would like to try DHEA there is a lab called Douglas lab that does not use China Vitamin and is a very reliable co. whom make DHEA 5 mg that you can use. It is a sublingual that I divide into fourth. You can't get DHEA compound here without script.

It seems to work very well. But it hasn't done anything for my night sweats. My DHEA is not micronized and I was worried it would not work, but it works fine. Initially, I was wondering how to do this. I found two sites that have vaginal DHEA suppositories--sounds messy and they were about 2.00 each. Just using a piece of the tablet avoids the mess and the expense.

I also suffer from vaginal atrophy. Really miserable most of the time. I've been using a suppository made by Carlson. Combination of Vitamin E, coconut oil and palm oil. Use at night.... not very messy and seems to be working.

can you plz give me names of the two sites where you found the dhea vaginal suppositories? I live in Greece and can't find it here, and i've been searching all over the net. I've had vaginal atrophy and dyspareynia (painful intercourse) for more than a year and have tried lots of products (natural ones as well as estriol vaginal cremes) with little or no results. Have a strong feeling intravaginal dhea could work.

To the woman who used DHEA intra-vaginally (is that the correct term?), you said you broke a 5 mg tablet in four pieces. Did you use that once a day, or how often? Is that still working for you?

To Quernsey: Is that a 5 mg tablet of DHEA and not 50 mg? So far, I'm seeing 50's instead of 5's...

Thank you for sharing. I've been looking for alternatives to drugs. Any brand in particular?

Try brand Desert Essence

I've had vaginal atrophy, terrible chafing/dermatitis, been to 2 gynos, dermatologists, U of Michigan, no one could help. I found Jojoba Oil on-line, after a couple of weeks I am seeing improvement. I am so relieved!

Look into the "The Orgasmic Diet" by Marrenna Lindberg. There is a synopsis of it at this link, but it is better to get the whole book: http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/orgasm-diet

I read this and have been using the evening primrose capsules vaginally & by mouth. It has helped.

hi, patrice here , I too suffer with athropy and I have just been reading about Ophena, it sounds like the answer to my problem, can anyone say where I can buy it as it might take ages to be on the shelf in ireland..patrice

Anyone like to give a update on E3 and the DHEA for atrophy?

I am 47 and had am postmenopausal. I suffer from severe vaginal atrophy and pain with intercouse. I have been to the doctor and prescribed estrace... Did not help. I have also dried Emerita Progesterone cream helped for a while, but then subsided and I noticed fast weight gain. I have been reading all the studies on intravaginal dhea. Many reputable sites are saying this is safe. Has anyone tried using dhea tablets intravaginally?

Hi Babs, After reading about DHEA on this site last year (https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/vaginal-atrophy.html#DHEA) I researched and took the pub med link below to my Dr. This is my second remedy, the first being estrogen cream. I had previously suffered months of atrophy (and unbeknownst developed a cystocele). I am now on pessaries into about month 2 and I can say they are definitely working to get everything in working order. I have more to do on the cystocele (weight, special exercises) but getting there I hope. No increase in libido from the DHEA though. Also on thyroid medicines.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20459349

I also read Dr Mercola's recommendation of pessaries against oral doses of hormone. Pessaries, however, are expensive, (about 1 dollar each here)and 1 is used every night. They each contain 5mg of Dhea and were made for me by a compounding chemist. The dose may need adjusting and back to Dr for further review in a month or so. I am 54 with hashimotos disease and my abtibodies are a bit high and T3 is low at the moment so not a perfect scenario for libido. (See Dr Sandra Cabot's advice as well on libido). I had been on the typically prescibed internal estrogen cream before this and it was also working (plus a libido) but like you, and with a background in estrogen dominance and a bit of left breast pain reappearing, the risks looked too high to me. I have a great Dr and she is doing some more research on this to see if she can help her other patients. Hope this helps. Thanks to EC for this site.

I have been reading a lot of hormone books the past two years and my bladder is fallen, pressing on my nerves. I applied E...... brand progesterone cream for 6 months and slowly increased the dose, then added vit D , when my blood test revealed it was VERY LOW, (D is a hormone ), then added magnesium citrate and that helped the muscle tone as well.

Then added the same brand of phytoestrogen and later added estradiol to the mix, since the body has three estrogens in it.

Now as far as you feeling aggressive or mean, the body will produce hormones if given the right environment/products to produce them in/with,

BUT NOT PROGESTERONE and that is the hormone that is calming. Maybe you could add it and find the right balance.

I am hoping to try adding DHEA next , thanks for your inputs... hope this helps you ....

Joy, are you saying you use vitamin d, magnesium, progesterone, etc. on your vagina?

NO, I use the vitamin D , magnesium citrate , and other vitamins and lots of coconut oil orally. I used progesterone for 6mo with no other vits or mins or creams and got new p - hair that was not grey, then added some phytoestrogen , a little dab on the outer vagina and then recently added a small dab estradiol right above the hairline to pull up the bladder.

I am prone to yeast infections , so no creams work inside with hormones on them. I have added products--- one a month, after 6 months of progesterone alone, and each has improved my muscle tone over my whole body. I wouldn't stop using any of them unless the problem was completely resolved.

Magnesium citrate from S..... Giving me dramatic changes toward youthfullness and intestinal health. Constipation wreaks havok on pelvic floor muscles.

I am still reading up and adding some new things. There is a pessary that inflates to fill the cavity to help a person get some exercise called INFLATOBALL.... ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT ? Also has anyone done the allum soaking with good results?

I went to the utube site, it answered some questions. thanks for the input......

Joy, where do you apply the progesterone? I rubbed it on my wrists for 8 months but got spooked with a saliva test showed me way too full of progesterone. I wondered if it softened my ligaments, resulting in a tiny sinking of the organs.

If it is causing discomfort it is probably doing more harm than good. I had to treat yeast overgrowth everytime I tried a dab of prem.... Two days in a row, and finally gave up. Used three prescriptions for yeast treatment in 6 months.

I felt so frustrated I didn't try hormones again for a year, when I tried something else.

Does using an oral dose of dhea help tighten your muscles. My sister uses it and says it helps her a lot. I haven't gotten up enough courage to try it yet. I add new products SLOWLY in low doses... And try one day, skip the next, then try again, skip the next. Some things work best one day a week.

I emailed Bezwecken... They discontinued the estriol suppositories for "business reasons".... Not happy!

Thanks to all for sharing what you have discovered about vaginal atrophy etc. I work in the area of women's health and also have a great female ob/gyne. Someone asked about dilators - from all I have discovered, and from my doc's advice, "if you don't us it you lose it". When sex hurts us of course we avoid it, including self-pleasuring. And the lack of blood flow and tissue stimulation only makes everything worse. My friends and I have discovered that a whole range of things need to be used to help. We are usually low on Vit D, and as mentioned magnesium (oral)is very helpful to many (500mg). Using an oil vaginally (E, Jojoba... ) helps, and I need vagifem (only the 10mg) at times as well. And then to avoid or to fix labia fusion (where tissues fuse together) vaginal sex, on your own or with a partner, is critical. Use of a vibrator/dildo is good because it can stretch things open again. Can hurt so do it on your own, have a glass of wine first and a salts bath after! Then I have to get myself to keep up my routine... Just like flossing!

Has anyone tried using the Bezwecken Hydration 1x estriol cubes in conjunction with vaginal insertion of their DHEA cubes?

I'm thinking of trying this as my vaginal atrophy is severe.....unable to have sex at all due to excruciating pain.

I had a major stroke at age 23 (cause undiagnosed but I was on birth control pills at the time) so I can't risk using a prescription estrogen based product. I'm just not sure if it's safe to take the estriol cubes as well as a quarter or half of a DHEA cube in tandem.

I'm deperate...any thoughts?

Thanks James...I can tell you've done a lot of research in this area so your "two cents worth" is valuable. If DHEA converts into what your body needs (and I don't know exactly what that is) then I guess it makes sense for me to start with the DHEA cubes. I'm wondering how you determined that the estiole 1x cubes were right for your wife as opposed to the estriole 2x or DHEA cubes. Did she have tests done or has it just been trial and error?

I just ordered a 12-cube pack of Bezwecken DHEA Cubes from NaturalNutritionals.com. I am confused as some here have mentioned types of dhea being used as suppositories in a range of dosages from 3.5mg to 13 mg if I remember correctly. that is quite a difference. there are also several names being tossed about for seemingly the same thing? I received my order, but they don't have the amount of dhea in each cube listed, which I think is strange, but it's not like it is some off-brand. Consequently I will be calling the seller tomorrow to ask some questions. My question here is, it seems some are using a 3.5 mg sublingual tablet normally taken by mouth as a suppository and halving or quartering it which seems like a very tiny amount. I have severe dryness and no libido, but my hormones are not too far off. I'm 67 and been menopausal since 1996. And have not had sex in about 15 years. I know. I know. Gotta use it. Anyway, I am extremely careful about what I put in and on my body and don't have any faith whatsover in doctors. I pretty much go by how I feel and other than a constant annoying post nasal drip am very healthy.